<< Bob's Book >> No Wai! AN update! 6/14/08

[Kamikazebob]

First of all I must say Hello to Ca. I've been a longtime lurker but I've finally decided to start a sketchbook. I know I need work (MUCHO!) but thats what this is for.

So with out further greetings... some of my pencil art.
I just got a tablet (nothing fancy *coughwacomcoug*) but I really want to start messing around with that too.

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[Bradh898]

Nice to see you hear. Not bad stuff, you certanly know how to get the range of greys out of your pencils. If you really want to excell, do life and anatomy studies. Oh and post everything, just get it out there. Keep up the great work.

[Kamikazebob]

Well, since you insisted...:teeth:
These are mostly just random pictures I did during classes (high school)
Monsters
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Random Horrible anatomy (Yeah, i need me some work)
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Steampunk fun
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Hey, everybody has done a Reaper at least once, no? xD
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Dunno...
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This one, albeit crumpley, was inspired by a Pic I saw on Deviant art.
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[Kamikazebob]

So, this is my first piece done in Painter. I'm planning on attempting (rofl) to do a study or something once a day after spring break is over because atm I just dont have the patience to do anything but Paint, doodle, and play Ninja Gaiden (HOLY HELL ITS HARD) and Fallout 2.

I've been messing with this for about 2 days, just getting used to 'stuff' in painter. Its done with the digital air brush and the 'just add water' Blender. no setting were messed around with yet. I'd really like to know how you people get those amazing textures on your pieces, blending wise. It may (probably) is my lack of skill atm but I just cant do it. Using painter is like learning how to draw again for me. I just need practice.
~Bob.
Based off of the above Pic.
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[Kamikazebob]

More stuffs, once again... I need anatomy work, I know.
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[A.Cerasoli]

Nice to see you hear. Not bad stuff, you certanly know how to get the range of greys out of your pencils. If you really want to excell, do life and anatomy studies. Oh and post everything, just get it out there. Keep up the great work.

I agree with Bradh898 about the anatomy studies, you should definitley study anatomy more. I disagree with Bradsh898's comment on your pencil values. The shading is way too close in values and looks very flat. Ease up on the pencil when your drawing too. Nice start for a skecthbook though. :)

[Kamikazebob]

Ease up on the pencil when your drawing too. Nice start for a skecthbook though.

Does that mean the shading or the pencils in general?

[Kamikazebob]

My first 5 minute speed paint. I plan on doing this AT LEAST once a day. I'm searching for some anatomy books and whatnot.
Ive got a year of highschool left and I've decided to get serious with my art.
My plan ATM.
1. Anatomy Work. (When I get ref books.)
2. Speed Paint. (5 minutes, lots-o-'em)
3. LEARN Lighting.
4. 1 sketch a day, 2 on weekends.
5. 1 Painter piece a week (too much?)

My First speed paint of my system, Its unfinished but hey... I gave myself 5 minutes to do it.
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[Kamikazebob]

So, this post wont have any art in it... yet. Its more of a 'story/reason/art will come soon' post. So, I shall begin with the story and all that good stuff.
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A year ago a buddy of mine and I were at work talking about our ex-boss (as of this year I'm moving) and mocking him in good fun. I had been watching the anime one piece at this time and I though it'd be a nifty Idea to do a Comic/Short about Pirates. Pirates that live on a planet that is 70% Desert wasteland. The only difference is that its Iron shavings and not sand.
<< Thats the planet for the most part.
We kept talking about this for most of the day and came up with a crap load more ideas. The primary energy source is magnetic conversion devices (Quasi-Steampunk/Cyberpunk designs) that will appear on most ships. Solar sails on the ships that absorb solar winds to create energy. We had a tone of characters that I ended up writing down somewhere that I'll post along with Pictures. It was supposed to be cooky-nutty but In the end it ended up being a serious Idea.

I'm planning on posting the character art here along with ship designs and story lines and all that good stuff.
*back to anatomy book search!*

[Kamikazebob]

So, I haven't updated in a while mainly because I'd like to start doing characters more and I'd like to do it right, proportion wise. Meaning that I wouldn't like to get any bad habits. << I cant seem to find the Bridgeman books anywhere but amazon so I ordered the figure drawing one and I'm waiting for that.
In the mean time... I did this during English
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[SEVANS]

Good start to a SB. You do need to draw alot more from life and from references. Books by Andrew Loomis are also a good idea, you can get half of his as pdf's on the net.

Use the books to give you ideas about guidelines, underlying structure etc, BUT life and reference are still the best teachers.

Just draw more and have fun.

[Kamikazebob]

Thanks a lot for the comment dude. I just found the Loomis book PDF's and The Bridgeman Book (Life drawing one) I Hopefully will have something up soon.

Heres one I did during school today, no refs as I got the books after school.
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~Bob

[Kamikazebob]

So, I spent 35 minutes reading and sketching from the Bridgman Book, This is what came out. Can't say its much but its a start. This is the first time that I've used it. << Improvements to come.
~Bob
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[Kamikazebob]

Arm study update
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[Sorknes]

I know what you mean about taking long breaks and your work not being where it was, did the same >.<

You have some neat stuff going on there though, keep working at it! :) And keep digging into the anatomy :)

[Kamikazebob]

Well, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one here xD
Thanks a lot for the comment and I'll keep digging into the anatomy as much as I can.
~Bob

[Kamikazebob]

More arm updates. I'm sick and it sucks. Cheers!
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[Kamikazebob]

Well, Its something. Started with arms working on bodies, then neck/head then working my way down.
Any major proportion problems?
~Bob
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[Kamikazebob]

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~Bob

[Kamikazebob]

'nother quickie
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[Kamikazebob]

I picked up Marko's Dvd a few days ago and realized... Shit, this is what I want to do with my life. I've started doing a sketch a day at least, thats not to say most of 'em suck but, ah well. This one turned out pretty good. I'm almost done with it but I want to post it any way.
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[Kamikazebob]

School Project.
we're supposed to make CD's for a project... (11 grade Eng.) I ended up on the art side so i figure.. "Hey, I can always use the practice.
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[Pistol]

Looking good. Little propotions problem is the lenght of your legs compared to your bodies. Study Legs now :P And study Basic body Form

[Sorknes]

I see some too short legs there.... Better watch out for hips, tighs and legs... :)

Else good, keep doing the studies, will pay off a lot. :)

I'm darn lazy when it comes to that at times, but I know whenever I sit down and do it for real for a while, all my drawings come out better in the end.... It pays off :)

[Kamikazebob]

Update for the school bit. Heres my new one.
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[Wasp_One]

Update for the school bit. Heres my new one.

@Kamikazebob: it's comming along nicely, well done! I couldn't help myself and posted a quick Paint-Over in your WIP-thead here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1331451#post1331451).

[Kamikazebob]

Hey, its a new update.

I've been trying to work on my proportions and so far this is the only one that I've like enough to post up.

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~Bob

[hurricane]

keep on working!
thanks for swinging by my SB

cheers

[MattGamer]

Sweetness. If you work hard at this art and do not give up, you will go far. You have potential. To keep on posting after hardly anyone comments/critiques is a pretty hard thing to do.

This (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=142589&d=1180123197) guy is a good rendering, though he looks like he is made of copper. Now try to make one that looks like human flesh.

Also, check out one of my favorite digital artists, SPARTH, and his tutorial on how he works: http://www.3dtotal.com/team/Tutorials/sparth2/sparths_cwu_01.asp

Sparth starts with an abstract canvas, then after he gets everything balanced in the image the puts in details, etc.

I hope this helps and keep up the good stuff. DRAW, DRAW, DRAW!

[Enydimon]

You have some pretty interesting stuff here. Keep up the good work on the anatomy studies.

[Kamikazebob]

I need to kick my own ass for not doing anything productive in the pencil area.

Hurricane - Thanks for swinging by yourself

Matt - Thanks for the props dude. Too bad I haven't done the whole "draw draw draw" bit... just draw. :/

Enydimon - Thanks for stopping by. Anatomy will be sketched.

Random garbage sketch update.
Nothing I like, nothing good. Etc. Bleh!
Anatomy shall come soon. I've read the loomis stuff in PDF form. Only problem is that I cant stand jsut sitting and reading at a PC. I've used the bridgeman stuff for a bit but I finally have a lot of time to shoot the shit and draw.

I now present... garbage.

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[Kamikazebob]

Random new page of sketch
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[Kamikazebob]

More Sketch.
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[Kamikazebob]

More.

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[ethan karnopp]

nice man, i see progression, i really like them busy type pieces in your first few posts, just an interesting style imo. keep it up man!

[masterpug]

I think you are headed in the right direction. Sketch constantly. I wouls suggest drawing actual people as much as possible when you are trying to get better. Seeing how real people move and how they interact with things is key. Keep it up!

[Kamikazebob]

SiNEjde - Thanks dude. If I ever actually learn something I plan on going back and doing some crazy stuff

masterpug - I'll have to start doing that. :wink:

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[Kamikazebob]

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[Kamikazebob]

I was the Chinese Acrobats in Chicago yesterday.

Man, it made me want to sketch some. More coming soon!

Still nothing 'GOOD' but w/e

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[Kamikazebob]

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[Kamikazebob]

Yeah, I know there is a lot wrong with it but I'm getting there.

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[Kamikazebob]

"Alone" project for art
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Idea came from a Glen Angus Magic Card.
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Jumping dude?
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Based on a Jim Murray Pic that I love
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[Kamikazebob]

Pic I drew after loading through random inspiration folders
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Pic I did at 1 am the other morning
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I've done some anatomy too but nothing worth posting.

[Kamikazebob]

Just a few creatures.

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[Kamikazebob]

Well, this was an odd one. The mask is one of Marko's charries. But completely by accident. Ah well.
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[Kamikazebob]

'Nother one

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[Kamikazebob]

Gladiator!

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[Kamikazebob]

So, I actually tried something in color. Its my first time 'using' prisma color pencils for something, not just playing around.
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And I'm still working on this one a bit, fixing up the wings 'n stuffs.

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[MattGamer]

Keep working, mate. You are improving, but only if you want to. Practice things that relate to your style of drawing. Never stop drawing and keep that imagination flowing.

[Kamikazebob]

Matt - Nice to hear from ya dude. Thanks for the vote of confidence. :confident

Here are a couple more that I've been workin' on.

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[roidvoid]

are you doing any referenced stuff?
i think that it would be beneficial to do some referenced stuff... anatomy and still lifes.
the best fantasy artists know the basics of both drawing and painting.
get the basics down and go from there
that doesnt mean that you cant sketch a monster or a sword weilding barbarian as you learn, you have to keep yourself interested. but as you progress you will be able to realize the fantasy subjects in a much more realistic and believable way.

ive been buying dvd's from gnomonworkshop
they have been incredibly helpfull!
i think that they have some good dvd's onbasic drawing but i could be wrong.
loomis is good
hogarth is also good but a little off in his figures.
problem with the loomis books is they are expensive or outta print.
id love to get the pdfs that the guy in the page before was talking about...

[Moai]

Hey man. Thanks for the comment in my sketchbook!
I see some nice concepts here. You've got some good designs and obviously have a fertile imagination.
However, now is the time to study. You have good ideas, but your knowledge of how to put them down on paper needs developing. You can start by buying Bridgman or downloading Loomis and studying up on your anatomy. Take a figure drawing class to really learn how to draw the human form. Do some still lives or sketch from life.
My two cents. For now.
By the way, how's living it a testicle working out for you?:P

[Kamikazebob]

Roidvoid - I really should do some reference stuff. I keep saying I'll do it but never do. I need to hunker down and really start working harder. Next update will have some Ref based material on it. I swear.

Moai - I really cant take figure drawing classes around this little'ol town of mine but I'm starting to just chill in classes and draw people. I'll really need to hit a park up or something for some landscape/life drawings before the weather goes to hell.
And yeah its all warm and watery in here. kinda comfy.

[Kamikazebob]

I LIED >< No life drawings posted here. I suck horribly at them, so here are the two not life drawings that I did in between the suck and blow.

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[Kamikazebob]

So, heres something new. I've been working in Painter learning techs and whatnot and I'm attempting to apply them to this digi. Still working on it to get the values right and all that.
A lot of blur ant not enough sharpness yet, Hope to get there soon though.
The background is supposed to be snow but getting the shadows right on it is proving quite difficult.
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[Kamikazebob]

Update to the last pic. I'm getting the hang of this I think!
There are a lot of problems with it regarding the smoothness, I think but thats neither here nor there.
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[Kamikazebob]

So, its not much but its a happy Halloween :D
Blurry, too.
Its kinda a sketch, I did the MB logo freehand.
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[Kamikazebob]

Just a little project

Its still being worked on and all that stuffs.
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[Kamikazebob]

Stuff
My scanner makes odd blotches. I'm not sure why.

Pumpkin boy came from a paul bonner painting.

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[Kamikazebob]

yay! an update!
A few Sketch pages of boredome
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Two pics from the Zoo, done with references.
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This one was based off of a pic from FF section, not as good though. I was having massive art block :oneye:

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And finally, a CD cover traditional for a friends EP
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Oh, and an update to an old pic.
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[Kamikazebob]

Some more stuffs. Hideous stuffs.

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[Kamikazebob]

Hey! Update

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[Dished]

Hey bob! see, got a reply :D haha just kidding.

Cool stuff man,and its good your working with details as well,and costuming your people and horses :D But yeah, pretty much do more anatomy studies, give loomis a shot and bridgman too. I found bridgman very helpful. Im starting out with vilppu right now and the first few chapters in his book helps with seeing forms and depth so I suggest yuo check that out as well. Keep it up :D

Your horse guy's leg is a bit too small. But if you make it any longer it might be too big for the horse,so i suggest resizing his upper body then.
and render more. :D

[Kamikazebob]

Dished! - A comment, a comment, my kingdom for thine comment. Good to hear from ya sir. I'd post mah new one but I've got a broken scanner now. I guess i'll just post the digi for now. Peace.


Its still being worked on, but I'm pretty happy with it. The legs are going to be reworked a lot soon.
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http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5885/nergalde8.jpg

[Kamikazebob]

First update in a long time.

Still dont have a working scanner otherwise I'd have a massive update.

Still working on this one, I just happen to really like where its going.
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An old art crusade That I didnt have time to finish
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[Nickles]

Hey, I really like the first sketch on #61, the contrast is neat and it's really confident looking.

You have a lot of imagination! :) Kudos

[Kamikazebob]

Nickles - thanks for the kind words, man.

I've got a busted scanner and a broke wallet. So no updates, that dosnt mean I haven't been at it. Hopefully, when I get one, I'l have a massive dump of *stuff* Cheers

[Kamikazebob]

Hey! i have an almost working scanner!

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[Kamikazebob]

MOAR
The studies were 30-35 mins a piece
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[humanNature6115]

Keep going,

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http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120761

[archipelago]

hey man, cool concepts!

nice to see the lifedrawings, drawing from life is one of the best ways to learn, especially the nude figure.

I would definitely recommend drawing from life as much as you can, and learning how to mesure with your eye (takes about a year to get reasonable at it, if you are up for it), and then bringing what you learn back into your drawings from imagination.

keep it up, cheers!

[Kamikazebob]

Holy shit and update!

HumanNature - I will :D

Archipelago - thanks for the kinds words. I've been doing some life drawing lately, I just suck at it, lol. Cheers!

Me screwing around with micron pens and water colors
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[Kamikazebob]

Sketch I'm working on. First digi piece that I've been proud enough to post in a long while. Done with the Davi brush pack. Its awesome, lol. :davi:
Some more to come, I've just filled up my second skethcbook. Its a good day. I'm definitly going to keep up with this now.
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