A new Start - new hope (updated 03/10/07)

[DonCoyote]

Yeah, this is recent stuff, and i'm hopefully going to keep these spirits alife and i'm tryin to be able to present at least one image per day...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day1.jpg

bottom right's with reference, lost motivation on this one...
bottom left's done pretty fast.
Have a nice day, comments and critics would be so cool...

[Artistic_Engineer]

Its interesting how rough and sketchy it is. Maybe you cleaning up some of the lines around the shirt would make it look better(top right). Then again, I don't know.

[GriNGo]

Nice start Don. Try some black and white studies instead of color ones. It will help you in the quest of finding a good value for your image. As usual, go for the basics: study from real life. One question how long did you take in making each image?

greetings!
GriNGoLoCo

[CouchPotato]

I don't wanna sound like an upstart, and this is like the first opinion I'm giving in hopes that, you know, what goes around comes around and others will give me too lol.

I'm ahhh...not sure about this, maybe you're trying something different that I don't know about, and I'm not reeeal confident of myself, probably I'm spouting rubbish, but I think the woman's proportion's slightly off. At first I thought, might be perspective, but am not sure. Anyway, I'm just gonna put up a small piccy on what I think is right. I think also the shoulders are too broad somehow, compared to the butt. If I'm wrong I hope people will let me know too. It'll be a learning experience for me as well.

I don't really know what to say about the rest, because I haven't moved into faces yet. Sorry : /

[DonCoyote]

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day2.jpg

Yeah guys, thanks for the (kind) words... i never had 3 replys to one post, so this is like a little succes for me...

artistic engineer: Thx for the reply, with top right i just wanted to get used to heads, and i was content with it, but thought it would not be worth spending much more time on it...

GringoLoco: i wanted to do so anyway, and yeah, i did, as you can see... the times of the older ones i forgot but today it took me 11mins for step 1, 10more to step 2 and then about 15 more minutes to he 3rd step... Had to stop here for sports, but i like this piece... looks good to me...

Yeah proportion is off, but the arm seems to be shorter because of the perspective... I didn't finish it, but put it in the sketchbook because it was much better than my older things...

C&C wanted as always...

[bluefruitbowl]

Awesome, good start! Definitely agree with doing alot of life observation and master studies. Do you have any anatomy books around/ a library for access tot them? If so, grab one and plow your was through it. It'll definitely help you understand forms, shapes, and what you are drawing better.
Like your camera - shows a decent grasp of value. It's also a shiney object, which is tricky. Looking at step one of it, try not to make your lines so sketchy. Draw the line that you need, if it's wrong, then fix it. Try to use as few lines as possible.
Keep up the good work.

[-sideshowbob-]

good start :)

learning and understanding drawing at its basic rules helps alot
rules about foreshortening perspectives volumetric-shading proportions and all that kind of stuff ;)

some links :

http://www.reybustos.com/03ra/ra.html

http://www.carloscabrera.com.ar/tutorials/

keep up and most more !

just saw u r .. german :D ich auch ! >_< nasskalte grüsse aus köln :>

[MrHoboX87]

I think its off to a good start, like it was said above, cover the basics and you'll be fine.

[Chermilla]

The camera sketch is coming along nicely, once the lines have been sharpened up it'll look pretty good.

Work a bit more on those anatomy skills and you'll be well on your way!

Cx

[DonCoyote]

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day3.jpg

practiced some perspective, and im happy with the rsult but it took me a damn lot of time... maybe about 2 hours from pencil sketching to what you see now... Can someone tell me wether this is lot to much, or worth it!? Comments? Probably goin on with this piece sometime...

Bluefruitbowl: Thanks, man... no anatomy books around, but tryin to get some...

SideshowBob: yeah, we talked about learning techniques, right ;) ?

MrHobo, Chermilla: Yeah, thanks, guys...

Have a nice day...

[GriNGo]

GringoLoco: i wanted to do so anyway, and yeah, i did, as you can see... the times of the older ones i forgot but today it took me 11mins for step 1, 10more to step 2 and then about 15 more minutes to he 3rd step... Had to stop here for sports, but i like this piece... looks good to me...


yes man, it's looking good, and I'm glad you took my advice seriously! and doing sports is a good enough excuse for me :) more people here should take importance of their physical development, as well as their artistic (which is a good combo). About the time, don't worry too much about. In the beginning it always takes alot, but the more you make studies, you'll note that each drawing becomes quicker to do, and better. All the time you take in drawing and doing your art is worth it, believe me. The building test is quite interesting, because it looks like it challenged you a bit. Keep it up!

[Blaz]

Hey,good start! You did well on camera picture....you are going in right direction...just practise practise practise... :D

[CouchPotato]

Here's a link to some anatomy and figure drawing books ^^


http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/01/downloads.html

[DonCoyote]

GingoLoco, Blaz, Couchpotato:
Yeah thanks, guys... might be my in drawing/painting, but when i had an older sketchbook here, i had to wait hours for an answer, now i have about 3 per post... Very motivating, thanks alot :)!!!!

One more?

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day3-2.jpg

I didn't drew from the photo, i just took it as a reference for you guys... My perspective was slightly different where i sat to the one when i took the photo.
Bye...

[DonCoyote]

Just one more:

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day3-3.jpg

bye

[Red_Rook]

nice do more of those still lifes, now spend longer on them, spend 3 four or 5hours on them, youl get some interesting results it should teach you alot.

[ArtZealot]

those still lives look really nice. The face on your first post has some flaws though. Look up andrew loomis on google and see if you can download one of his books. They're one of the bibles all artists should know about in my opinion.

[Grim Reaper]

Hmmm you're into some basics here. Keep practising mate and maybe chose more interesting subjects to keep you motivated.

[DonCoyote]

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day3-4.jpg

To post something before going to bed, i have these two, which were not very satisfying for me... the lamborghini is the last think i worked on, but its 2:48am, so tomorrow is another day...
The second piece are simpel practices from one loomis-book. but it showed, that ive problems drawing a ellipse in perspective.

Red Rook: yeah, will do so, as soon as I get some sleep...

Art Zealot: Thanks, and already got loomis ;)...

Grim reaper: At the moment my motivation seems unbreakable, hehe...

[DonCoyote]

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day4.jpg

Yeah went on with the perspective stuff... do you think posting things like this is useful?!
Greetings...

[DonCoyote]

long time no reply... nevermind!

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day5.jpg
http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day5-2.jpg

first one is stuff i saw in the loomis-book, the sketches with boxes, and the torsos like sideshowBob suggested to do... Comments and critics as always...

[DonCoyote]

went in the forest today to notice once again how hard it is to sketch the nature. i think it wouldn't be even worth posting :blah: but nevermind... shows my level too... and some more tries on poses...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day6.jpg

Comments? Critics?

[DonCoyote]

Yeah one portrait with no ref, the second one from life...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day6-2.jpg

Comments Critics please?!
I won't give up, guys ;)...

[DonCoyote]

Yeah, i made it, one week and at least one post per day, thats a proof for my motivation for myself... ;)...
Somethin I'm happy with again, after some weaker stuff (in my eyes)...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day7.jpg

Common, gimme some comments to keep my motivation alive...

[DonCoyote]

some more sketching...
C&C as always, although.. nevermind..;)

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day8.jpg
http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day8-2.jpg

[catface]

good job your doing just what you need to, drawing from life and getting your proportions right. Keep it up you'll improve quickly.

[DonCoyote]

Yeah, had a little chat with sideshowBob (thanks man) and he showed me some thinks about poses, perspective and dynamics on these... yeha. i believe to se an improvement, he mostly does not.. i did more of sketches like this... deleted most of them... but these as a little impression (all of them were kinda fast)...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day9.jpg

have a great day...

[DonCoyote]

So here's some more stuff, fast stuff... is there some place where or someone who can tell me something about painting landscapes? ive trouble seeing the perspective in there...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day9-2.jpg

[DonCoyote]

ok yesterday was some weak stuff i think.. today some more attention on the poses...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day10.jpg

Yeah comments, critics highly appreciated...

[DonCoyote]

Its a pity.. this slogan isn't right at any time/place... lots of things goin on today, school etc... had no time to paint except this little fast excuse and some scribblings on paper... have a nice day...

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day11.jpg

[DonCoyote]

http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day12.jpg

I did more of these bodies, rather very sketchy...

[-sideshowbob-]

take more time ! dont rush !
keep em 3D not flat
make sure u understand the segments of courve and how they flow in 3D space seperate -> x y z segments
try understand how to allign LINES first then move to angles and courves and complex shapes
try understand it step by step or its getting messy pretty quick

[DonCoyote]

yeah did some face sketches...
http://www.punkpalast.de/sketch/day12-2.jpg

[bluefruitbowl]

Your motivation astounds me! You're getting better - check out the comparison of the figure studies from post 21 and 29. Keep it up! My $.02 is to step back from working with value in life drawings and really get contour drawings down pat. Those hands you drew are really nice.
:D

[Reptil]

it is me, or your thread just don' show the thumbnails?