300! this is spartaaaaaaaa

[Spade]

anyone else thinks this will be great haha?
if not for anything else than the slick visuals...


http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/

[nilaffle]

The trailers are pretty... definitely pretty. ;) I'll be going to see it when it comes out.

I think this review sums up my expectations perfectly:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31520

[Anid Maro]

I think the CG looks overdone. To the point where I wonder if they even film on an actual set, or if they just blue screened it all! Regardless, it does look interesting.

I dunno if it will be very epic, deep, historically accurate, or what all. But it does look like there's gonna be plenty of hackin' & slashin', so I'm sold.

[seba_boi]

IGN says, "Snyder has crafted a one-of-a-kind masterpiece that is unlike any movie audiences have seen, and in so doing he may have sealed his own fate as a possible redeemer of modern moviemaking."

:rolleyes:

[Brendan N]

IGN says, "Snyder has crafted a one-of-a-kind masterpiece that is unlike any movie audiences have seen, and in so doing he may have sealed his own fate as a possible redeemer of modern moviemaking."

:rolleyes:

Good to hear, was starting to fear that it may just be the trailer that is groundbreaking. That NIN track helped it on quite a bit, hope it will feature in the movie as well - makes for a powerful complement to the visuals.

- d.

[Flake]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78004

But yeah, looks great.

[Spade]

actually the only minor problem i have is some of the additions they have made to the story, they added some elements that make it more fantasy.. which seems abit needless its a cool story as it is.

[Undertow]

You guys realize that this is based on Frank Millers graphic novel right? Miller's version of the battle of Thermopylae was fantasy driven. Most of the filming was done on green screens much like Sin City. I can't wait to see this on the big screen. Unfortunately it doesn't look like they'll be showing it on the IMAX screens in Seattle:/

[Hookswords]

You guys realize that this is based on Frank Millers graphic novel right? Miller's version of the battle of Thermopylae was fantasy driven. Most of the filming was done on green screens much like Sin City. I can't wait to see this on the big screen. Unfortunately it doesn't look like they'll be showing it on the IMAX screens in Seattle:/

Right. Miller took quite a few liberties. I'm pretty sure no one had battle rhinos, or mutants, or giants. Keep an eye on the history channel, they might take this as opportunity to air some of there Sparta shows. The Sparta civilization was quite fascinating, very similar to the Sith. There is an old movie about the 300 spartans that may be more historically accurate. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/

[Flake]

I don't care, I just want to watch a bad ass movie. If I want historical accuracy I'll watch the History channel or read a book.

I haven't seen a truly badass movie since "Kill Bill" , this better not suck.

[seba_boi]

I haven't seen a truly badass movie since "Kill Bill" , this better not suck.
I just hope the multi-CG effects don't wear its novelty out a la Sky Captain and Sin City...

[Anid Maro]

There is an old movie about the 300 spartans that may be more historically accurate. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/

Actually, I've seen the latter half of the movie. From what I saw, no, it's not really very accurate.

Especially when it comes to culture. There's a female interest in there who seriously acts all helpless and domesticated. Historically, Spartan women were known for their impressive athletic abilities and not for being cuddly.

Also the acting is pretty bad sometimes.

Persian King: "Oh noes! What will we do?!"
Some Lady: "Well, you could retreat."
Persian King: "I can't retreat!"
Some Lady: "Say that you had a vision of the gods, and your ancestors instructed you to return home and raise a new army."
Persian King: *assumes a triumphant stance* "HAHA! I'm a genius!!"

Well, maybe I paraphrased a bit here and there... heh. :)

[Hookswords]

It was made in the 60s, what do you expect? We're lucky it wasnt a musical

[Chariot]

Hey Hook, they are playing it on CN Imax here in Vancouver, only a two hour drive!

[Undertow]

*in Napolean Dynamite Voice*: "Lucckkyyyy!";)

[dkounios]

i cannot wait for this movie...
best use of NIN music in a trailer ever.

ugh...i wish it came out today...

[hito]

well damn, maybe I'll just catch it Friday night in VC then... hopefully it won't be sold out.

[evildisco]

Just came back from the Art Center screening.

Brilliant movie and bloody awesome.

[Flake]

No general UK release until March 30th, bah.

[Johann de Venecia]

It looks and feels like soft porn. Definitely a must-see!

[vigostar]

Got my tickets for next FRIDAY at THE IMAX!!! Im stoked!!!!!!!! Gunna get baked and sit in the center of the theatre an be in awweeeeeee!

[thedarkcloak]

I'm looking forward to it.

And yeah, that old "The 300 Spartans" movie was pretty decent, a lil slow moving sometimes, but a nice lil historical war movie, considering the times.

You know... speaking of the NIN music on the trailer...

I'll be happy as long as they don't start blaring Linkin Park or Godsmack music during the fight scenes and Spartan poster boys posing n such.

I hope they keep it gritty and EPIC!

[Silvertone]

History Channel shows on 300...

http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=214270&action=detail

http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=214233&action=detail

http://www.history.com/media.do?id=ee_greece_thermopylae_broadband&action=clip

[i.am]

Anyone check out the concept art on the 300 official site? Some pretty interesting stuff.

[seba_boi]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/300/

First reviews are out... And they're being very cruel... :( I'm still there opening night... :p

[hito]

Hahaha, that's a great review, I suspect it to be right on the nail too.

[viag]

300 sec of 300 , (spoiler inside)

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?name=movies&id=1553704&vid=136403

Awesome , i cant wait for friday !

[Justin.]

Wooohoo :D

[seba_boi]

Hahaha, that's a great review, I suspect it to be right on the nail too.
With this one being the funniest and most painful blow:

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/tomatoes/rotten.gif"Fills a much-needed gap between gay porn and recruitment film."

[nauvice]

This movie is going to be AWSOME. My brother hates the lighting of it and the fact its almost all greenscreen, but that's an advantage imo

[DIMAGYAN]

i see some comments about historic...if anyone is interesting in a more "real" comic of the battle of Thermopylae, oesterheld and alberto breccia made the final chapter of mort cinder about that event.(was made a time ago, i think in the '62)...

[CruShTinbOX]

Anybody going to see this movie for historical accuracy is completely missing the point and deserves to feel like they wasted their money.

[Silvertone]

Frank Miller was on the 300 history channel special last night. He mentioned his version is history AND fantasy. Basically said if he was around a campfire and telling the story of the 300, this is how HE would tell the story.

[Felicia]

I saw it last night, a friend of mine got me into a private screening. It was awesome. The fight scenes and the costuming were excellent. Definitely buying the Dvd to pause and draw some of the poses. Beautiful and very true to the graphic novel (like Sin City). And finally a movie where there were more man boobies then woman boobies.

[jcaffoe]

an absolute masterpiece of filmmaking.

my hat goes off to Zack Snyder for some of the most resonating visuals I have ever seen.

[Skank]

the best movie ive ever seen.
period.
i dont give a fuck what others may think.

fucking brilliant.

[Mr Man]

Gaaaaah I hope it comes out in the uk soon!!! I might have to kick someone down a hole if I wait too long :P

[nauvice]

Saw it yesterday, it's a great movie

[JAG.]

caught an advanced screening last night.. unbelievable. this movie kicks so much ass. - JAG

[rustikof]

SO GOOD.

[Zebz]

Let us not forget the man behind the conception of this flick, Dan Milligan! Every time I see the trailer I see shot after shot of story boards! I'm going to see it tonight with some people from work. I'm definitely looking for a visual feast!

[Hookswords]

I just saw it. Completely awesome. The movie is one great moment.

[i.am]

Dammit.. this needs to come out here in Japan already :mad:

[seba_boi]

It's good, but it's not that good as many people proclaim it as the new masterpiece of movie-making... But it is etherially beautiful though and some shots I would love to have framed on my wall... The yelling and the slo-mo didn't bother me as much as I thought though a few scenes of slo-mo had me laughing at how over-used and hokey it turned out (like when that Persian began to pull back his whip and the scene suddenly goes into this very funny slow-motion moment; from touching the fountain to kissing, everything just had to be relished into slow-motion)...

[Calcaneus]

I just saw it a few hours ago and I love it! It was ~not~ perfect but it was extremely entertaining and good. I will pobably see it again soon. I no doubt will be buying the DVD and drawing and painting from it as the visuals are top notch.

I read a review (after watching the movie myself) that complained about the movie being shallow or and a gore fest with too much slow-mo. Well yea there is gore but its not unreasonable or anymore than you'd see in Saving Private Ryan (as far as I can remember). Also I think the slow motion portions were used very effectively. If you are looking for emotional or political subtext it is not your movie. 300 is beautiful, primal, macho and awsomely entertaining.

[Zweit]

i've been hearing all sorts of stuff about this one. a few that it's ludicrously inaccurate (dur), but i'm also getting a lot of contradictory reports too. most of it seems to be either "it's got too much action" or "it was too talky and needed more action". can't please everybody. i guess i'll have to judge for myself, gosh i hate doing that.


also, while i do want to see this thing on as big a screen as possible, it got trumped by some bigger news last night. (http://http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=9241)

it'll probably get it's own thread but, still. awesome.

[Rabid]

It was astounding, every shot reminded me of a Rembrandt masterpiece.....excellent use of cool and warm atmospheres....any concept artists work on the film here?

Found some story baord and cocnept art here....

http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/concept_art.html

[Dizon]

It was astounding, every shot reminded me of a Rembrandt masterpiece.....excellent use of cool and warm atmospheres....any concept artists work on the film here?

Found some story baord and cocnept art here....

http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/concept_art.html


That's Dan Milligan's work you see on that link. He posts here a lot.


GREAT movie! I loved the end!

[rustikof]

anyone who doesn't like this movie is either a)a communist or b)a nazi.

there was nothing wrong in any way with it. trying to find something just means you are an angry person and hate your life.

[Zebz]

To say that this is a perfect movie seems kind of ridiculous to me... but I saw it last night and I will say that I liked it and that it's very good for what it is. I read a review at IGN that said it was like a Boris Vallejo print come to life and that's exactly what it looked like. Not that that's a bad thing, at least to me. It depends on what you were looking for in the film. Story wise it leaves a lot of be desired but I'm an artist and I didn't go looking for a story. I went looking for the visuals... and I'm satisfied. Sure it's stylized and all but it looks great. The colors and compositions were spot on... great stuff. This was a comic book come to life... and it worked for the most part. I loved how gritty and textured everything was. I really enjoyed the movie. I'm rambling so I'll shut up. Heh.

Will I watch it again and again? Probably. But more for the compositions and learning from those things for ref and stuff. Heh. The design was really awesome too. Again, kudos to Dan on such great work. I felt like his fingerprints were all over this.

[LaPalida]

I watched 300 last night. This is my review of the movie.

It is beautiful visually. Very nice cinematography and imagery. This is a perfect gay date movie if you don't mind the violence (which incidentally I don't). Not much female flesh although there was a bit of that gratuitous nipple and titty shots. The film is mostly dominated by healthy sexy manbeef flesh. Every one of the 300 was a beefcake. It was awesome. Some sections of the movie were a little cheesy and there was that very hot unintentional? homoerotic scene between King Leonidas and Xerxes. I think half the theater giggled. All in all it's a highly stylized and artistic film with alot of truncated body parts. I enjoyed it :)

[Jason Rainville]

Same thing as I have for my msn name:

Spartans + Stunning cinematic moments + Titties = one good movie.

I STILL wish he would have said Hades instead of hell though. :)

[seba_boi]

anyone who doesn't like this movie is either a)a communist or b)a nazi.

there was nothing wrong in any way with it. trying to find something just means you are an angry person and hate your life.Well, don't confuse beauty with great film-making...

On the other hand, that last shot of Leonidas, I want framed on my wall right now!...

[Anid Maro]

Just got back from seeing this movie.

Friggin' awesome.

I wouldn't say it's the best movie ever, but as far as action movies go it may very well be the best in my opinion.

Loved the twisted stuff in this movie, like the wall built using dead Persians as the mortar. The Persians were styled interestingly too, obviously a lot of artistic license here. The Immortals were great, especially when the one got unmasked.

As far as the sexuality goes... well I agree it was mostly, as LaPalida put it "healthy sexy manbeef flesh". However, I do have this to say...

Usually sex scenes in movies don't to anything for me, I just roll my eyes and wait it out. But the scene with Leonidas and his wife, where the camera kept focusing on her expressions...

Yeah... well...

...that was pretty hot.

:bashful:

[rustikof]

Well, don't confuse beauty with great film-making...

On the other hand, that last shot of Leonidas, I want framed on my wall right now!...

Stalin McHitler:^^:

[seba_boi]

Stalin McHitler:^^:
Heil Hilton!...

[Skank]

it seems from reading alot of the replies, many of you have never read the comics this movie is based on?
very much like sin city, tho not as SLAVISH, (frame for frame, word for word) its frank millers version of the story.
and all the character designs are straight out of the comics..loved it.
they did flesh the story out more, mostly i think, because frank millers comics are very brief story wise. but all in all they stuck very close to it.

[robogabo]

The movie had an extreme
heavy hand on the artistic side
and couldnt had been visualiced without the
help of Dan Milligan :cheerleader:,
specially the first half of the movie
wich is the best :-D

congratulations to all the art team on the movie
visually is really outstanding!!!


------ SPOILER
PLEASE DONT READ NEXT PART
IF YOU HAVEN´T SEEN THE MOVIE ------




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i think the movie should had ended after the arrows
darkened the sky in the last battle where they all die
next part just weakened the movie, but it´s my 2 cents

somebody has read the comic? how does it end ?

[Dizon]

The movie had an extreme
heavy hand on the artistic side
and couldnt had been visualiced without the
help of Dan Milligan :cheerleader:,
specially the first half of the movie
wich is the best :-D

congratulations to all the art team on the movie
visually is really outstanding!!!


------ SPOILER
PLEASE DONT READ NEXT PART
IF YOU HAVEN´T SEEN THE MOVIE ------




. . . .

. . . . .

i think the movie should had ended after the arrows
darkened the sky in the last battle where they all die
next part just weakened the movie, but it´s my 2 cents

somebody has read the comic? how does it end ?

I disagree. I thought the ending where they show all the spartans and greeks was a powerful one. It's also the same ending in the graphic novel. There's a similar ending in the movie "Braveheart"(which was also kickass).

[Spade]

damn, good to here its good.... but it doesnt come out here till april aaaaarrg (kicks someone down a hole)

[le capitan]

my eyes are STILL ejaculating.

[Hookswords]

I just saw it again. This time I could pay more attention to things I wanted to analyze, while the first run I was catching the drool from my dropped jaw. There is some very subtle camera work that is really interesting. It wont win an oscar, but it is a great movie. Miller is two for two on having his comics being done justice. The stylizing on both sides was great, but I do wish they would have put more of the technique of the phalanx in. I dont know why it was jipped, the gore ratio would have been greater had they showed it's true use. The emphasis on the warrior brotherhood was outstanding. Every word from Leonidas was gold.

[naomiful]

I think I'll definitely have to see it again - it was awesome how the spartan women were portrayed, loved the queen~!

[s.ketch]

I would say the best of '07 so far. I also would say that it is the best war movie i've ever seen. Great script, great characters, great fx and great story.

[Flake]

[public information broadcast]

Hello, I am knowing history because I am clever, this film which was based on a comic may be factually inaccurate in places.

Thank you.

[/public information broadcast]

[Rabid]

I just saw it again. This time I could pay more attention to things I wanted to analyze, while the first run I was catching the drool from my dropped jaw. There is some very subtle camera work that is really interesting. It wont win an oscar, but it is a great movie. Miller is two for two on having his comics being done justice. The stylizing on both sides was great, but I do wish they would have put more of the technique of the phalanx in. I dont know why it was jipped, the gore ratio would have been greater had they showed it's true use. The emphasis on the warrior brotherhood was outstanding. Every word from Leonidas was gold.


I agree with the phalanx theory...they didn't clarify it enough and give it justice to it's tactical importance....I think some of my favorite compositional and color shots would be....

the boy and father spartan sitting on the steps with the shield, the worms eye upshot of the demi god (whiplasher), and by far my favorite....so good I openly told my girlfriends and bros I was with that I just came....the messnger's rearing horse displaying the skulls of the previous fallen kings....
:lens: :xpld: :lens:

[artiphats]

Thumbs up from me and my friend whom I saw it with yesterday. Great visuals, great action, good simple story that kept the movie going, and I didnt mind the slow-mo at all.

Someone did point out to me that for all the blood flying around there was never any on the ground, I didnt note that but I will look for it when i see it again. It wont matter of course, it will still be one of the best movies I have seen in quite a while.

Great stuff, go see it!

[Chariot]

Someone did point out to me that for all the blood flying around there was never any on the ground

LOL, if at any point you were looking at the ground during the movie you have more to worry about than how much blood should or should not be there.

Best film in 07 by far~

[Icon]

Saw it yesterday night.... and my jop dropped from awe the entire time. I love this movie so much it hurts!

[Joeslucher]

I saw it last night and it was unbelievably good. The slow-mo on the wip was a little wierd pacing wise but I was so fascinated by the visuals that it didn't bother me. The guy's severed hand in the air was the best frame of the whole movie, with the wip and blood spiraling. My only problem was with the goat head guy. Where the hell did that come from? I'm surprised they're not taking a ton of heat for portraying the Persians as LITERALLY monsters. People were literally laughing out loud at the fat executioner guy he was so out of place.

[seba_boi]

I saw it last night and it was unbelievably good. The slow-mo on the wip was a little wierd pacing wise but I was so fascinated by the visuals that it didn't bother me. The guy's severed hand in the air was the best frame of the whole movie, with the wip and blood spiraling. My only problem was with the goat head guy. Where the hell did that come from? I'm surprised they're not taking a ton of heat for portraying the Persians as LITERALLY monsters. People were literally laughing out loud at the fat executioner guy he was so out of place.
Haha... They were also talking about that goat boy in RottenTomatoes but I totally didn't notice him...

Too bad they didn't use that executioner guy to fight... Hehe...

[Hookswords]

I saw it last night and it was unbelievably good. The slow-mo on the wip was a little wierd pacing wise but I was so fascinated by the visuals that it didn't bother me. The guy's severed hand in the air was the best frame of the whole movie, with the wip and blood spiraling. My only problem was with the goat head guy. Where the hell did that come from? I'm surprised they're not taking a ton of heat for portraying the Persians as LITERALLY monsters. People were literally laughing out loud at the fat executioner guy he was so out of place.

My take on the Goat guy playing the lute was this: That was more or less an opium den. There were hookas and high concubines all over. I took the goat guy to be "part of the trip". Like, a halucination. As if it was a way to make you part of the opium cloud.

I didnt really understand the point of the executioner, nor the shot after of the head spiraling upward. Just didnt make sense to me. That was really the only part that didnt blow my mind.

Goat boy rules though

[N D Hill]

I thought it was pretty good. All though I thought the whole tacked on side story with the queen and the council was little lame given that it wasn't in the graphic novel and that the real Sparta was not a democracy like Athens. So there was really no grounds for it anywhere. It seemed like an overly preachy suplement to the action. Aside from that, I thought it was absolutely beautiful. I loved the poetic approach to the violence and gore and just how over-the-top everything was. I can check 300 off my list of graphic novels that need to be addapted to film. Hopefully Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns will be up next to the plate.

[Interceptor]

There was virtually no single frame of this film that would'nt look good as a still illustration. I saw it a couple times already. Great stuff.

[Lone Wolf]

Just saw it, and i was blown away! Amazing movie! There was nothing that i would change.

Can't wait to see it again.

Interceptor -There was virtually no single frame of this film that would'nt look good as a still illustration. I saw it a couple times already. Great stuff.

I definetly agree.:)

[Jason Ross]

anyone who doesn't like this movie is either a)a communist or b)a nazi.

or c) neither a communist or nazi but someone who needs character development, geographic establishment, and plot development to enjoy 2 hours of violence and ethnic favoritism. i was extremely pumped to see the movie but was pretty disappointed in it all. there were equally awesome things as well as terrible things about the movie. having learned the real story of that battle made me expect more out of it. when Leonidas dies at the end i simply did not feel anything and thats because of poor character development. everything of importance happens in the same "courtyard" area as scenic establishment was severely neglected. feels like it was done on stage. shows how hard it is to simulate real light. its also another example why comics dont translate well into movies directly. this movie had the ingredients to be great but fell short because key elements of storytelling were abandoned for gore and cool looking effects. all eye candy and no mind candy. the best thing about the movie was the soundtrack. 6.5 out of 10.

[Jason Rainville]

all eye candy and no mind candy. the best thing about the movie was the soundtrack.

Well, it's a visually driven epic/action movie. I don't really see how the character could develop really, (starts as unsure and submissive to the old ways, ends defiant for the well being of sparta) and without deviating from historical events even more, how could the story be more involved?

[rustikof]

or c) neither a communist or nazi but someone who needs character development, geographic establishment, and plot development to enjoy 2 hours of violence and ethnic favoritism. i was extremely pumped to see the movie but was pretty disappointed in it all. there were equally awesome things as well as terrible things about the movie. having learned the real story of that battle made me expect more out of it. when Leonidas dies at the end i simply did not feel anything and thats because of poor character development. everything of importance happens in the same "courtyard" area as scenic establishment was severely neglected. feels like it was done on stage. shows how hard it is to simulate real light. its also another example why comics dont translate well into movies directly. this movie had the ingredients to be great but fell short because key elements of storytelling were abandoned for gore and cool looking effects. all eye candy and no mind candy. the best thing about the movie was the soundtrack. 6.5 out of 10.

or d) has never read any frank miller comics ever..especially this comic specifically...

turns out---movies aren't exact reflections of reality! artistic license??? what's that?! you mean...the spartan's WEREN'T barechested in the actual fight and actually had about 700 other people fight with them to the death just as gallantly as they did?? WHAT?!?? ...

but sarcastic jabs aside, its a movie. I don't get why people expect movies to be exact retellings of ANYTHING. if you want that, go read a non-fiction history book.

[Joeslucher]

if you want that, go read a non-fiction history book.

And make sure that history book isn't made by the USA, Mexico or Japan.

[Jason Ross]

or d) has never read any frank miller comics ever..especially this comic specifically...

turns out---movies aren't exact reflections of reality! artistic license??? what's that?! you mean...the spartan's WEREN'T barechested in the actual fight and actually had about 700 other people fight with them to the death just as gallantly as they did?? WHAT?!?? ...

but sarcastic jabs aside, its a movie. I don't get why people expect movies to be exact retellings of ANYTHING. if you want that, go read a non-fiction history book.

(or that the spartan navy was the prime reason the persians didnt break thru? and that they were outnumber 6 to 1 themselves?)
seems like you got me mixed in with other people around you who didnt like it and you want to vent. my post never states the "retelling" of history and your sarcasm is misdirected...you mean star wars didnt really happen? you mean we are not actually in the matrix?! i enjoyed the action like everyone else but there was nothing to support it.

now that i look back at my post, it seems like you just the read the first few words then hit the "quote" button and started vented your feelings about people who didnt like it or any other movie that you liked and they didnt. your reply doesnt apply to my post at all. accuracy??? pretty obvious from the previews that it wasnt going to be an "accurate" depiction of reality unles you believe that the fat guy with the blades sewn onto his arms could be real...that amongst other deformities...(deformities=bad person or potential bad person and should be killed on sight) in fact the previews basically instilled all the emotions of the entire movie and the movie was just an extended version of the preview. the words "historical accuracy" doesnt appear in my post. the words character development and greographic establishment do. which is a basic creative writing 101 strategy to embelish true events for an entertainment value. i mean based on the movie could anyone know where battle of thermopylae actually took place? let alone what that even is? or where they were in relation to earth in general? a simple map wouldve been nice...some brief history wouldve been nice to explain why the persians are so hells bent on gettin thru? even if exaggerated or embelished some kind of plot wouldve been nice. the movie generally fails to establish much except that spartans=awesome mega tough guys (which was badass) and persians=sinful evildoers... i loved the artistic license of bare chested super heroes with shields even though historically it was solely because of their body armor and group fighting tactics that slaughtered the persians and not their supreme fitness and fighting talent. creative writing 101 was ingored for the most part and it showed, and is extremely important in tragedies. people screaming for any and all reasons with a 1hour 45 minute fight scene around it isnt enough for me but surely will suffice for others.

but i just loved how a spartan "diplotmat" would be dumb enough to carry a bag of persian currency on him. every time i think of that i think of the episode of seinfield when Kramer had his pockets full of pennies.

[Silvertone]

And make sure that history book isn't made by the USA, Mexico or Japan.

Soooooo, only history books from the other 190 countries in the world are accurate? Just wondering.

[Joeslucher]

Silvertone- No, those are just the ones taking flak in the news recently for making some incredibly inaccurate/biased history books. I was simply pointing those out in an effort to bring all history books into question. We're talking about an event and culture from BC. Frankly I think historians probably made roughly educated guesses on most of this stuff and now here we are arguing over the factuality of it like it a)matters (it's entertainment!) and b)history books are gospel truth. Let's say you're watching a movie for entertainment,would it affect you if somebody approached you after and said, "Fight Club is grossly inaccurate. Tyler Durden didn't have multiple personalities and the majority of the planning was done by another guy who was a foreign terrorist,"? It would be bizarre to hear someone go,"oh the movie is ruined to me now."

[Silvertone]

Got it. Hadn't heard about questionable Mexican history though. History Channel used to do a show called History vs Hollywood when a historically based movie came out, which I liked to watch. I guess they don't do it anymore. They did have a new 2 hour special last week on the Battle of Thermopalyae where they even tried to mimic the look of the film. I believe a year or two ago they did a series on the Spartans that was very interesting.

[vigostar]

Jason Ross- There could very well be alot of reasons why this movie fell short in the way a perfect movie should be told. For one funding, who kows how much budget this movie actually had to play with and being that they were using tons of it for the special effects which was really what this movie was all about I we can only imagine what the price tag is for each additional minute.. We bitch about cell phone minutes.. Imagine full prudtion animation studios? The town I believe we depicted very well... the population of cities were nothing in the numbers of what the are today furthermore consider that many of it wasnt developed so basically what do u have.. Essentially we fathom that only a small portion of towns or cities were very populated.. Yes, we can read about these huge cities in our textbooks but, whats really huge? I live in NYC and from what I hear thats the biggest city in the world so how can I exactly compare that to a city developed over 2000 years ago? I do however agree with the story telling aspect.. It would have been nice to hear more background info why the persians were so hell bent on taking over the world or specifically that one ruler/ demigod...

All in all I enjoyed this movie alot.. Im a pretty big movie buff and alot of the times that i discuss movies with people I always tell them one thing take a film for what it is... Some of films are gorgeous wonders of special effects and nothing more, others are great writing, other cinematography and so on... But, theres beauty in it all even in the ugly and worst movies... MARINE!! 300 two toes way up!

[Anid Maro]

I think most problems to be had with this movie can be solved if you realize you probably went in expecting too much.

If you believed the hype and thought it was gonna be the greatest movie of all time, yeah, I'd be let down too.

But me? I went in expecting a fair to mediocre action flick with wild historical inaccuracies. Instead, I got a pretty good action flick with only major historical inaccuracies.

I mean, come on. It's a movie adaptation of a comic book adaptation of a battle that took place two thousand years ago. I sure as hell wasn't expecting Braveheart or a BBC history special here.

Quite simply, I went to see skulls get cracked, everything else was gravy.

Really, this applies to a lot of movies. If you go into every movie expecting it to be as cheesy and dumb as an early Schwarzenegger movie or a badly dubbed wire-fu martial arts flick, well you'll usually come out pleasantly surprised. :)

[seba_boi]

Jason Ross- There could very well be alot of reasons why this movie fell short in the way a perfect movie should be told. For one funding, who kows how much budget this movie actually had to play with and being that they were using tons of it for the special effects which was really what this movie was all about I we can only imagine what the price tag is for each additional minute.. We bitch about cell phone minutes.. Imagine full prudtion animation studios? The town I believe we depicted very well... the population of cities were nothing in the numbers of what the are today furthermore consider that many of it wasnt developed so basically what do u have.. Essentially we fathom that only a small portion of towns or cities were very populated.. Yes, we can read about these huge cities in our textbooks but, whats really huge? I live in NYC and from what I hear thats the biggest city in the world so how can I exactly compare that to a city developed over 2000 years ago? I do however agree with the story telling aspect.. It would have been nice to hear more background info why the persians were so hell bent on taking over the world or specifically that one ruler/ demigod...

All in all I enjoyed this movie alot.. Im a pretty big movie buff and alot of the times that i discuss movies with people I always tell them one thing take a film for what it is... Some of films are gorgeous wonders of special effects and nothing more, others are great writing, other cinematography and so on... But, theres beauty in it all even in the ugly and worst movies... MARINE!! 300 two toes way up!Silly question, but why was there a bottomless pit in the middle of the courtyard?... :p

[rustikof]

jason---sorry, I wasn't really directing the whole "historical accuracy" towards you, i basically personified you as everyone I've heard thus far who has problems with its "realisticness". The comic book itself doesn't really establish a whole lot of "character" with any one person specifically, it is just assumed by the author (frank miller) that you are to go along with whatever he tells you, and that there's an understood different angle on everything because that's how he tells story...he's not about telling you the before and after, just the "what happened" and thats all that matters. It includes as much historical accuracy as it needs to in order to convey the story. It's not so much a story about the spartans vs. the persians, but a fight in the dog vs. the dog in the fight type of story. Like the alamo, except...in Ancient Greece.

With that in mind, I guess I just went into the movie with the mindset that I was going to accept whatever happened, no matter what, as long as it stayed as true as possible to the comic book. And, in my opinion, it totally did.

And yes, I'm definately venting, because from my perspective, due to the criteria i listed, I can't see as to how it lacked in any way. But, from anothers perspective who HASN'T been exposed to all of that, I can totally see why they wouldn't like it. It just saddens me though to see that they, due to the lack of information, are basing their final opinion on that lack of info.

[Jason Rainville]

Silly question, but why was there a bottomless pit in the middle of the courtyard?... :p

Well. :)

[Elwell]

I sure as hell wasn't expecting Braveheart or a BBC history special here.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Heh

um, excuse me

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

No really, I'm sorry, but if Braveheart is your yardstick for historical accuracy, then you're in BIG trouble.

[seba_boi]

Well. :)
I don't think it's wise to throw off people in a well (if it is a drinking well)....

[Anid Maro]

Elwell - Fully agreed, Braveheart and historical accuracy are mortal enemies. I mentioned Braveheart for it's "epicness" and story development, but certainly not for being accurate. The historically accurate part would be covered by the "BBC History special".

[Elwell]

Glad to hear it, you had me worried there.

[Flake]

Wait, are you saying "Braveheart" is historically inaccurate!!???"

Madness!!

[Calcaneus]

Yea I noticed the lack of blood on the ground and sometimes on the swords the first time I saw the film. Honestly, I read the comic before I saw the movie so I knew what I was getting into. I expected nill historical accuracy and creative and fantastic elements and was very satisfied.

[dkounios]

loved the movie. will definately go see it again/buy it on dvd (perhaps twice...the first released version and then the special directors version..blah)

[vigostar]

Because he needed something to kick that messenger dood in.. Duh!

Silly question, but why was there a bottomless pit in the middle of the courtyard?... :p

[Hookswords]

I'm surprised they're not taking a ton of heat for portraying the Persians as LITERALLY monsters.


Ya just had to give it a few days.

Here you are:

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/news/wire/sns-ap-iran-300-movie,0,154365.story

[Anid Maro]

Javad Shamghadri, cultural adviser to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said the United States tries to "humiliate" Iran in order to reverse historical reality and "compensate for its wrongdoings in order to provoke American soldiers and warmongers" against Iran.

The funny thing about that, is that most people who go to watch this movie probably have absolutely no clue about the historical aspects of this battle. Hell, I had to correct someone when they called the Greeks "Romans".

Somehow, I doubt that same person even knows who the Persians are, let alone their Iran's historical connection with them.

Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is "serving the policy of the U.S. leadership"

Ironically, I'd be quicker to accuse the newspaper Hamshahri of being a political tool of the Iranian leadership than I would accuse the US government of manipulating Frank Miller into producing an anti Iranian comic book back in 1998.

Not to say the US government wouldn't try that, but considering it's recent history, I don't think it has that kind of foresight.

Come to think of it, this whole article is largely political rhetoric straight from the government itself...

"Hey, Iranian citizens! This movie, "300", that we will not ever let you watch, it's disgustingly offensive towards you! It was created by the devil US government as propaganda against our great nation! So hate upon the infidels!!"

Boy, ain't politics just a load of fun?

[Silvertone]

Yeah, nice talk from a government who threatens to wipe another off the face of the map, teaches the holocaust is a lie and has a cartoon contest about it, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is truth, and my favorite, The Pirates of the Caribbean is part of the Zionist plot to rule the earth...

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1278wmv&ak=null

Not to mention the way they constantly portray jewish folks in their own media. :nohope:

[DIMAGYAN]

maybe is not a direct manipulation, but if you see all of this from the other side of the fence, te types of movies that were made lately in the us, you see a resurrection of middle ages, in wich case the good side is always a more occidental greek/roman type of society( example:lord of the ring, crusade,etc) is also a resurrect war theme movies, and even a new rambo(?!!), so all of this is see like war propaganda, because, well let say that the world is not exactly peaceful. besides always is a connection between politic, today events and money, do you think that all the studios don't know how to reach a blockbuster movie? even the television shows:war over the places...sorry if this is out of place, but i think is an interesant topic that we have to approach with open mind and no heat in our words...
art is part of the human life, and because of that is not only about stunning images.art without ethic, moral and compromise wtih your own vision is not art...

[Hookswords]

Here's another cat that doesnt get that it's a movie based on a comic that is loosely based on a supposed historical event

http://www.thestar.com/article/190493

[DIMAGYAN]

i know is based in a comic, i know that comic, my reply was not undertood by you, sad but is very common...if you think that movies don't have an impact(that's what the topic of my reply) on society and give a message, because is storytelling not visual only, then i think you have to read carefully what i write. with all the respect what do you mean with cat?

[Flake]

with all the respect what do you mean with cat?

Nothing really, it's an informal term, in this context it means much the same as "person", "guy", "dude", "bloke", "peep"

[seba_boi]

Because he needed something to kick that messenger dood in.. Duh!
Oh silly me, but of course... Imagine the delights of falling endlessly in a dark pit... A week tops of falling maybe?...

[Lone Wolf]

People have to read books ,and not believe everything they see in films.

I am really tired of people's ignorance. If you want to have a serious conversation about something find out the facts!

Watch movies for the entetainment that they are. Obviously some movies have more accuracy than others, but don't expect movies to be 100% factual.

[0kelvin]

I thought the movie was pretty clear in pointing out exactly why the Persians were portrayed as they were, as well as the reason for a number of the inaccuracies. The entire theme of the movie was about the power of myth, and it was clearly set up from the beginning that the story was the battle of Thermopylae as told by Dilios as a pep talk to the Spartan army. Of course he's going to embellish the hell out of it, portraying the Spartans as mega-badasses and the Persians as hideous monsters. That's the reason Leonidas sent him back to Sparta, because he was good at telling stories.



Eric

[AlexC]

aw shucks, it comes to aus august 15, I feel cheated on =(
the trailer looks godarn amazing tho, i love shiny CG:D

[dkounios]

http://nessparta.ytmnd.com/


heh

[Jason Rainville]

I thought the movie was pretty clear in pointing out exactly why the Persians were portrayed as they were, as well as the reason for a number of the inaccuracies. The entire theme of the movie was about the power of myth, and it was clearly set up from the beginning that the story was the battle of Thermopylae as told by Dilios as a pep talk to the Spartan army. Of course he's going to embellish the hell out of it, portraying the Spartans as mega-badasses and the Persians as hideous monsters. That's the reason Leonidas sent him back to Sparta, because he was good at telling stories.



Eric

Thank you thank you thank you thank you.

I've been trying to tell that to everyone around where I live, good to hear someone else 'get's it' :)

[Jason Ross]

then when hes done talkin they all charge into battle looking the exact same as before as mega-no shirt badasses. since we dont see the enemy at this point this could be the case even tho dilios left the battle before the end. id be that sceptic spartan in the back saying...didnt he just say that leonidas sent him back before the battle ended? so how did he know how he leonidas died so accurately?...oh well whatever i'm pumped... CHARGE!!

[light]

I watched the second hour of the movie only because of how hilarious the first one was. "We're undone, UNDONE I TELL YOU." I seriously have no idea what the hell they were thinking on half of this movie. There was entire parts that had absolutely no bearing on the movie and could've been cut entirely making room for some actual fight scenes instead of two slow motion fights and the rest just random arrows flying up and people surviving magically. The entire part with those guys in the mountains could've been cut out because they didn't even appear again. The completely random out of place sex scene they threw in just for shits and giggles. The creepy soft core rape. The 2 handed guy who cut a head off (which floated instead of falling down, what the fuck?) and then he just disappears for the rest of the movie, along with the other giant and the various other useless characters. I went to see this movie hoping for a not-too story based movie with lots of action scenes and boy was I ever disappointed. The effects were pretty good for the most part, the art for it was incredible, but I couldn't possibly bring myself to ever view this again.

[i.am]

So I finally saw it last night. WOW!!! I had Gladiator as my fav movie until I saw this. Well done, absolutely well done.

[Chariot]

I think Gladiator really does need mention here because it makes great comparison of an epic romantic film against the graphic genre-esque novel style this embraces.

I know there have been some quotes and conv's about lack of character dev etc. but honestly the head check should come in here when you hear "Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!" and realize this aint no Gladiator with rich relational storylines, that has been done and it has been done very well.

They kept the essence of Miller's work and the visual style that really enhanced the film. Tell me that isn't worth $10 ??

[Red_Rook]

There was virtually no single frame of this film that would'nt look good as a still illustration. I saw it a couple times already. Great stuff.




Dan did his job well huh?

The crush(look of the film) was hot. Hands down gorgeous. I had never been so excited about a movie and I was not dissapointed. Forgive me for saying so but I thought the comic itself was kinda tedious read and the movie made it badass. Who the fuck cares about the facts? its a fictional movie inspired by a true event. For gods sake its based of a comic book, not real life, and like 0kelvin said, its told as a story, as a narrative.


Oh and as far as the pit in the courtyard was concerned, (in real history) it was a well apparently (or an earthen pit depending on the source) the athenians did the same, apparently upon the request of xerxes to get a sample of earth and water from the places as a sign of submission, the spartans and athenians pretty much said "get it yourself" and respectivly threw the emmissaries in an earthen pit and a well. Atleast thats what I remember reading.


ps ima see it in IMAX this weekend, my eyeballs are gunna bleed. It will be so awesome.

[Diego]

I saw it today, it was frigging great, loving every frame. Definitely i'll watch again.

[Redder]

Impressive film. The funniest thing I over heard after the film was "I wish they had a little counter in the corner counting down from 300."

[Kahl]

Impressive film. The funniest thing I over heard after the film was "I wish they had a little counter in the corner counting down from 300."

Someone should mention that as a feature for the DVD!

As for all the socio-political debate over it...*yawn*. I've had this same debate a hundred times over and what it comes down to is: People need to chill the F**k out. If every film and play and comic and novel were to be pointed at for accuracies and no skewing of personal perspective....then why is Shakespeare the iconic author that he is? Honestly, read or see any of his plays and they are over wrought with personal opinion, political spin and flat out lies for the sake of entertaining the audience. Yet he's a genius and Frank Miller and Zack Snyder are political whores? Sorry...I'm not getting fat on that cake any time soon. I find it hard to believe that a nation known for its extremes and decadence would be so easily brain washed by the subtle propaganda of a war that took place more than 2000 years ago. More than 50% probably couldn't even tell you where Persia was. :nohope:

I think it was a brilliant film. And after busting my butt to get a film degree...I should be so honored/lucky to make a film that great some day.

[Hookswords]

http://community.livejournal.com/randompictures/2209617.html

[Mr Man]

Finally got to see it today! Sweet ass stuff!
My only complaint is that the trailer had shown alot of the film so it almost felt as if I had already seen it. Thats the trouble with trailers these days, they pick out the best bits. Im just gonna have to not watch trailers in the future I think :S

Awsome film though :D

[[void]]

I saw it a couple of days ago and i am so disappointed, i had watched the trailer so many times.

The sex scene was awful and embarrasing, i swear they chucked it in to assure people that they werent the heaping piles of homoeroticism that the rest of the film was. I felt no empathy whenever someone died, it was like seeing a videogame character die because they were all so two dimensional.

God knows why xerces was a giant transvestite.

Its such a shame because it was so beautiful in terms of cinematography.
Eugh

[Flake]

Just got back, really enjoyed it. :)

Best thing I've seen for ages actually.

[onona]

I absolutely adored this film. I didn't care about the fact that it was unashamedly all style and zero substance - the film was a glorious exercise in visual and aural beauty. Every character, even the grotesque ones, were stunningly beautiful - I was totally captivated for the entire duration of the film.

There is a lovely book out called 300 The Art of the Film that I highly recommend.

I'm seeing it again tomorrow at IMAX, which should be absolutely fantastic.

[Dimension]

Did this movie feel like a video game to anyone else? It's like, level one, send the crap troops. Level two, send the slightly better troops with a big monster guy. Level 3 send the rino. Level 4 send the immortals, then the elephants, then the blah blah blah...
Beautiful cinematography, but the story was crap. Character development? what's that? Not once did I feel one bit of emotion during the entire film. When dude died at the end, It's like "Oh... He's dead, that must've hurt".
I by no means regret seeing it. It was kinda fun, but no Lord of the Rings, or Gladiator.

[Dimension]

God knows why xerces was a giant transvestite.

Yeah, wtf was up with that.

[Kahl]

']God knows why xerces was a giant transvestite.

The purpose behind Xerces portrayal and that of the Persians in general was to illustrate two things:

One, Xerces referred to himself as the God-King Xerces. This is an idea not unlike the Pharoahs of Egypt. So his voice was distorted to give a sense of this Godhead figure but also to help illustrate that he was an imposing enemy. Leonides is held up as the Hero so to do justice to his death at the end, his enemy needs to be a worthy opponent. Remember, the story is told by Dilios, one of Leonides' Spartans....so obviously someone who reveres Leonides. If he's telling this tale to other Spartans, Leonides can't fall to some pussy king-- but to a GOD-king, now THAT proves just how bad-ass Leonides is, that it takes a GOD to bring him down, but not a good god like those in the pantheon but a perverse, deviant god. So that is one aspect of Xerces' character.

The second is to illustrate the impression that the Persians had on the Greeks. Of course the Persians weren't these sexually deviant, grotesque mutated figures...its all symbolic for storytelling purposes but also for historic purposes. At that time, the Greeks seeing a bunch of men wearing trousers, they were like WTF? It was bizarre to them. Plus there was a diversity in the faces of the Persian Army...so there is this muddling of cultures in their portrayal. But what the Greeks thought of as decadent and perverse at that time is nothing to us now, so it was exaggerated to make the same sort of impact on us today that it may have had on them at that time.

I agree to a point that the characters were not as developed as they could have been. They movie could have been a little longer to add just the few touches it needed to fill those figures out more...but in truth I think that they were not 2 dimensional. I think that there was a fairly strong characterization of the key people. As for not feeling bad when people died...I don't know that the goal of the story was to make you weep and feel bad. I think from the very beginning the goal is to leave you in awe of them. Dilios doesn't want you to mourn the 300, he wants you to be inspired by them, to want to emulate them. He's rallying an army to finish what the 300 began....not too many people sign up for that if they are sitting around depressed over the first crew of guys that got killed. And keep in mind, a Spartan's life was for the state. They knew no greater death than to die in battle...so they didn't view this as a bad thing either...so why should we?

Its all perspective and storytelling. :wink:

[Schierke]

They knew no greater death than to die in battle...
Which is why Leonidas told him to live forever.

http://www.spacecast.com/interview_3684.aspx
new video interview with Frank Miller and his collection of weapons. Apparently he collects items to help himself learn to draw better, like the props in 300.

[TheGnoll]

WOW.saw the movie yesterday and I really enjoyed it.I wasn't looking for historical accuracy (i've read the GN), nor a new Gladiator or whatever.I was hoping to see a precise movie version of the graphic novel by Miller, and the movie was.The graphic novel had no intention of beign historically correct, so i really didn't care.They added a lot of scenes about Leonida's wife that were not present in the GN, but its ok.Only thing i found quite unnecessary was the goat head dude and the fat executor monster dude.
I really enjoyed it.

ciao

[blog]

one word, dissapointment. I only went to watch it cause dan milligan had worked on it and the trailer looked pretty good, but the hype. This film was way too hyped up, it didn't live up to it AT ALL!

[lumar]

thinly veiled racism, pro-us-in-iraq propaganda, 300 had it all

edit: dont get me wrong, i like USA, but come on..all that crap about 'the world will know that sparta brought down a tyrant in the name of freedom', freedom comes at the cost of blood, i could go on...

[Red_Rook]

thinly veiled racism, pro-us-in-iraq propaganda, 300 had it all

edit: dont get me wrong, i like USA, but come on..all that crap about 'the world will know that sparta brought down a tyrant in the name of freedom', freedom comes at the cost of blood, i could go on...




whaaaaaaa????


come on if your going to spew some pseudo political bulshit, atleast make it even vaguely accurate, you cant blame a comic book published in 1998 for something that was started in what, 2001?

I can only assume that the Greco Persian wars where a pretty fucking big deal on the whole, oh you know, shaping history as it is today thing, those wars lasted more than 50 years.

The movie sets up the characters that way because it builds a good premise not because they are trying to advocate... the iraq war? What kind of moronic bullshit is that?

[kovah]

Two words - Gloriously Violent

Not had that much fun watching people getting killed since Starship Troopers!

Not read the graphic novel, didn't care too much about the history. I just enjoyed watching it.

[Costau D]

I wish the persians won. They were cooler.

[N D Hill]

Which is why Leonidas told him to live forever.

http://www.spacecast.com/interview_3684.aspx
new video interview with Frank Miller and his collection of weapons. Apparently he collects items to help himself learn to draw better, like the props in 300.

Actually, in the graphic novel, after Leonidas regects Ephialtes, Ephialtes curses the gods and attempts suicide by throwing himself off a cliff. He of course survives and curses the Gods again for not just letting him die.

[Mr Man]

Seen it twice now, so I suppose you could say ive seen 600?

Sorry lame :P

[Flake]

Two words - Gloriously Violent

Not had that much fun watching people getting killed since Starship Troopers!


That's a good comparison, they are both quite over the top "yay for stylised violence!" movies..

[lumar]

red_rook: so im 'spewing pseudo political bullshit' ? what exactly is 'pseudo' about the political bullshit im spewing.

anyway, there were simply too many parallels in that movie with the pro war rhetoric that i hear/see for me to believe that it was unintentional. the comic book is old, but the movie isnt.

and purely as a movie that it was pretty bad too, im not here to piss anyone off but i just found it boring and corny. and sepia tone, very very sepia tone.

[danshewan]

the best movie ive ever seen.
period.
i dont give a fuck what others may think.

fucking brilliant.

Truer words have never been spoken. And for anyone that missed it first time around, a tribute to the movie from the guys at Penny Arcade....

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/21

I think I'll go watch it again.

[blacky]

I've seen it
I've liked it

and still, it had a funny aftertaste knowing that Goebels would have LOVED that movie.

just replace the oracle guys by jews, the asian hordes by communists and the spartans by arians

and there you have sth. whole devisions of SS-troops will follow you for.

[Jabo]

Two words - Gloriously Violent

Not had that much fun watching people getting killed since Starship Troopers!

Not read the graphic novel, didn't care too much about the history. I just enjoyed watching it.

Starship Troopers! Haha, that's the comparison I was looking for :D Thanks for pointing that out.

PS: Oh, and btw: Wonderful movie. Haven't had a greater cinema experience in years.

PPS: Why do people always get the urge to connect movies and politics. I can claim that I enjoy movies more because I don't. Try it!

[Carnifex]

this film is like sex for the eyes. when have you ever needed your brain for sex? best movie ive seen in cinema for a long time,perfect use of slowmotion. only complaint i have is that some parts were unwillingly comical (sex scene) and that most of the time i got bored when there wasn't battle going on.
i love it,and i don't care what anyone says.
edit: oh and please spare me the political bullshit. we're talking comic book. love it or leave it.

[Blue]

Went to go see this with my siter and her roomate. When the queen kills the politician, she, and every other women in the theatre gave an ovation.

What an amazing film.

[Flake]

Went to go see this with my siter and her roomate. When the queen kills the politician, she, and every other women in the theatre gave an ovation.

My missus loved this movie, as did my mates girl. I'm not sure if it's Lena Headeys character or simply all the fit men in leather pants but 300 seems well underway to becoming the most unlikely "chick flick" of all times..

[john07]

Applause for 300. One of the best movies I've ever seen.

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[Brendan N]

Loved it. Don't care about the lame story or flat characters, it's not what this one's about. Dig it for the same reasons I dig MI3 - except this one does it so much better than any film before it. Pure fun to watch, don't expect anything deeper.

To me it's a real breakthrough in the stylisation and art departments of film making, hopefully we'll see equally beautiful films with stronger stories and better acting in the future.

Also I don't think calling it racist is fair - because the theme is beauty vs unattractiveness and uglyness, nothing about skin colour. See everything ugly is antagonist and everything pretty is protagonist. That's a theme.