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vances22
February 22nd, 2007, 10:14 AM
I know a-lot of us be comic nerds out there. Any of you guys looking forward to either the game or the movie? Personally I am a little annoyed they are bringin gwen stacy in so late in the game. The video game though looks like it gonna be quite sweet
seba_boi
February 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM
I wanted to see it (my brother's friend won free passes and he's taking me), but after seeing the trailer, it actually made me think otherwise... It looks so cliche'd...
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March 8th, 2007, 05:05 PM
I definitly want to see it but being an avid spiderman fan, I have to totally agree that its way late to bring Gwen into the movies. (Of course if they didnt bring her in id be kinda peeved.)
rustikof
March 10th, 2007, 10:11 AM
the trailer before 300 for this movie was frickin RAD. I pooped a little bit. seriously though...it made me believe.
Scubasteve
March 12th, 2007, 02:47 PM
I saw this trailer again when watching GhostRider (which other then Eva Mendeaz appeal was a bust, no pun intended) earlier in the week. I think the it just looks kinda cheesy. Im still hoping for the best, but Sandman while true to the comic, just looks ridiculous. I don't remember, but how'd he get his stupid powers anyway? And the shot where Spidey is rippin off the black costume just looks lame as hell. I like the idea of the suit and venom. But do we really need sandman crawlin up our movie cracks.. I mean comon, of all the lame characters. Maybe its just me.
BuckWeisel
March 12th, 2007, 10:40 PM
I seen the trailer before 300. For a tiny fraction of a second, I seen Venom and I was happy once again. The only thing im worried about is that he looked kinda skinny in both quick shots of him.
PeteStewart
March 15th, 2007, 01:13 AM
I've gotta say I'm very stoked for Spiderman 3...just wish it didn't have to be the last one.
However, there was a point where my enthusiasm came to a screeching halt when I saw Harry riding around on a hoverboard. *Gasp* it's like Back to the Future II all over again! (anyone else see the special on nbc.com? It was really quite nice...though I think they only kept it up on the site for 24 hours.)
rblitz7
March 17th, 2007, 02:30 PM
Well I saw the new trailer during 300 and I liked the trailer better then 300. Id be excited enough for just sandman but now they add venom, holy crap! this movie is gona rock.
rustikof
March 17th, 2007, 04:45 PM
it's the last one? I've heard them pass that around but I haven't heard of it ever being confirmed. And either way, they make WAY too much money with that franchise so it would silly to end an incredibly financial movie series when they still have the ability to squeeze a few more dollars out of us.
Bronze-Dragonrider
March 20th, 2007, 12:46 AM
This is the movie I've been waiting my whole life to see... this is going to be fantastic. I noticed a lot of comments here on things looking corny or lame, but those were out months ago and unfinished CGI. When it's done, it'll be amazing. And yeah, Venom looked kinda skinny in that quick shot, but that was while he was in mid-transformation, one's he's fully fleshed, he'll look better. I've seen some leaked concept art and production photos, and it looks really cool. Not the bulked out Venom like in the comics, but still more fleshy than Spider-Man.
Carnifex
April 30th, 2007, 03:44 PM
resurrection ftw. finally saw it. (possible spoilers ahead)
my take on it is that it's a fun movie,like the previous,but again it's abit melodramatic and takes itself too seriously sometimes. when it doesn't,it's close to sliding into corny "try to be funny" jokes (evil spidey dance).
action scenes were cool,as to be expected,but i dunno about the pacing and cuts sometimes. if i see for the 50th time that screaming mj is close to getting smashed by a car,i begin to wonder why. the venom costume per se was really cool (without host in the end),but the venom character had abit too much of the 80s vibe...bit tame. and what's up with him showing his face all the time?
i think the most fun part was spidey being evil,because it was enough comic-book like and not as "serious" as the rest of the film.
overall the characters were abit flat and the story somewhat not-thought-through-enough,but on the other hand it was fun and effects ruled of course. not a must-see,but a fun movie. (maybe i expected abit more from the trailer)
your thoughts?
Hookswords
April 30th, 2007, 11:46 PM
but i dunno about the pacing and cuts sometimes. i
That was my problem with the other two. They move to fast and chince on the action, taking away the only good thing that could come from these movies. Unless I am payed to watch it, I will wait for the rental
Elwell
May 1st, 2007, 12:03 AM
it's abit melodramatic and takes itself too seriously sometimes. when it doesn't,it's close to sliding into corny "try to be funny" jokes
Which is actually a perfect description of the Lee/Ditko/Romita Spider-Man.
Carnifex
May 4th, 2007, 07:02 AM
*knock knock*
anybody else seen it at all?
i guess i can say the 2nd one was better (and best out of the series)
twelve monkeys
May 4th, 2007, 07:20 AM
Couple of amazing action scenes, yes. The rest is a typical from 7-77 cinema, flat, lame and bad. Venom looks like a whobby bodybuilder - totally uncool and without the features that make Venom so cool: muscles, muscles, muscles.
And showing that stupid Mr. Nice Guy face every two second makes Venom look just stupid as shit.
And yeah, that scene with the flag is so annoying that everyone in the theater almost left. C'mon, who wants to see that flag nowadays? 80's are over, thank God. Terrible, terrible.
Yeah and that little was screaming all the time. They should have let her die.
Ok sorry guys, i just like Spidey so much, i can't believe someone spends over 200 million dollars on crap like that.
Or can you?
Amazing Action Ape
May 4th, 2007, 01:03 PM
I saw it last night, and have to say that It felt like the original star wars trilogy.
The first one was great, the second was fucking awesome, and the third one was alright but nothing to write home about.
Mr Man
May 4th, 2007, 03:52 PM
*spoilers ish* Saw it today, I wasnt expecting too much from this movie, good thing too. I was dreading that they would not be able to pull of venom successfully...and unfortunatley I was right imo. It was not venom that I saw in that movie. The voice wasnt deep and earie and his build was far too weedy. He just looked like a kids version of alien. I may sound abit critical but this is one of the most popular spidey enemies, he wasnt scary at all.
Other than that I think the rest of the film was great fun!
Edit: I think the second one still stands out to me. They just had too many characters in the new one. If it was just sandman then that would have been better as all the action and cg would be focused on a single character.
halflife99
May 4th, 2007, 10:54 PM
i thought it sucked.
Venom was very homo and un-cool.
The Peter Parker dance was wtf.
Sandman backstory not enough depth.
Jason Snair
May 5th, 2007, 08:37 AM
i saw it last night. When I first walked out of the theater with my friends we were like, yeah...it's alright. A little disappointing. It had some up and downs, some really corny parts, but it's....fun.
But over the last few hours all the bad parts just seem to get worse with time. I really didn't like this movie. It's sad because there's a glimpse of an awesome movie in there somewhere...and there are some fine action packed scnenes. It could have ended the trilogy on a perfect note. But it didn't. It did the opposite.
Carnifex
May 5th, 2007, 10:31 AM
i saw it last night. When I first walked out of the theater with my friends we were like, yeah...it's alright. A little disappointing. It had some up and downs, some really corny parts, but it's....fun.
But over the last few hours all the bad parts just seem to get worse with time. I really didn't like this movie.
exactly the feeling i got,which is really sad for such a premise. when i got home from theater i put in batman begins just to have seen a good superhero film after all that evening. :D ouch.
Interceptor
May 5th, 2007, 06:17 PM
It was entertaining, just for the fact that you get to ee Spidey throw down with Venom and Sandman. But not a good movie.
I think what killed it for me in large part was pacing. Entire segments seemed to be thrown is as an afterthought just to make the film a little longer.
Spoilers Ahead!
Harry's time with amnesia was entirely useless. He almost instantly remembered absolutely everything with no new insight on his stance on Peter / Spider-Man whatsoever. Peter's relationship with Ursula (the landlord's daughter) was also useless. She comes in at times when it seems like Peter's in a place to make some sort of romantic relationship again. And as soon as any new event in the story happens, she's gone. Ursula just seems like a filler character when the movie can't seem to find a better way to transition scenes properly.
I also think Raimi likes to indulge himself in stupid little things that he imagines would be funny, like that far too long montage of aymbiote infected Peter trying to act cool. And the dreadful Jazz Club dance sequence seemed misplaced. Emo hair Peter Parker is hilarious, though.
I thought Venom was very well handled, though. From Brock's attitude to Venom's actual appearance.
one2hit
May 5th, 2007, 10:31 PM
I thought Venom was handled poorly. He prays to Jesus to kill Peter....for losing his job, because of his own forgeries. Topher never felt intimidating or menacing, he just seemed like a brat in a big suit. That's just my opinion. Here's what I wanted to see. I wish that instead of the crain randomly attacking that building that Harry attacked the building with the intention of killing Gwen (why? cause peter likes her, and Gwen isn't MJ whom Harry likes). Spider-man could try to save her and end up killing her instead, which as it works out, actually happened in the books anyways. Now if Brock was already shown as having a strong love interest in Gwen, he could now blame Spider-Man for her death giving him all the more reason to hate him after Peter causes him to lose his job and then finding out they are the same person. Seriously...on the whole I was really disappointed with this film, and it sucks because most of what irritated me came from the shotty writting and incomplete, generalized plot. There was a ton of potential for this movie, just seems like they took the first story they had and ran with it...but that's just the way I see it.
halflife99
May 5th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Shouldn't venom be like, 7-8 foot tall build massive, and have his tuonge (sp) and mouth all over the place like a dog with rabies? Shouldn't his voice change as well?
Dizon
May 6th, 2007, 06:58 AM
I loved it, but, for some reason, Spiderman 2 was more memorable.
I don't mind the humor. Good thing it was included.
Dile_
May 6th, 2007, 07:09 AM
Saw it yesterday, I loved it !
I didn't liked the scene with the lifter though... Spiderman just ran away after saving gwen :( also the bad acting between peter and harry after he had been accidentally involved in a car crash... ^^ :P Thats what it use look when we have theater in school...
jmascho
May 6th, 2007, 12:31 PM
I like Raimi, I like Spider Man. This movie, however, was garbage. I think it's hilarious how after 300+ million dollars spent on a film's budget, you forget the simple aspects of storytelling. I've seen student animation reels with stronger stories. The special effects were amazing, but they don't fill the gap in the hole-punched plot. The nail in the coffin for me was when Spidey had to watch the news to figure out what was going on. There was a couple of very cool shots, and a handful more of horrible ones. Raimi's funny antics were great for about 30 seconds, but when mixed with the darker aspect of the movie, it made a mess. The symbiote suit for Spidey looked great, too bad Venom didn't. I expected a much darker, vicious character, maybe a little more explanation to the symbiote and some character development for Venom. I felt zero connection to any of the characters, and walked out of the theater feeling like I spent 3 hours watching MSNBC. Maybe I was expecting way too much, or have different opinions on which direction the franchise is going. Maybe it will go the route of Batman, and end horribly and be revived by Christopher Nolan. Haha, so disappointed. My favorite part of the movie was the preview for Across the Universe.
Dose206
May 6th, 2007, 06:47 PM
This was my favorite of the three, and for two reasons only. First, evil Pete (not Spidey, but Pete... hilarious!) and second, Gwen Stacy was HOT!
TwelfthFaucet
May 7th, 2007, 10:34 AM
The Good:
- Jameson's blood pressure
- Bruce Campbell
- Animation on Sandman in the blast pit; I thought the abstractions were pretty good, they kept me guessing
The Bad:
- The film would have been the same w/o Sandman, a shame really. "Oh noes Peter, it was actually somebody else who killed your uncle! Soz :("
- Venom. Bad design, and he didn't last very long for being one of the coolest Marvel villains.
- Corny, melodramatic, predictable script. One film's worth of filler to stretch things out for Spidey #4.
The Ugly:
- Eating too many of the nice foreign girl's cookies =/= gluttony
- The Dance Scene (dun dun dun!!!)
- The design for the "New Goblin"; he looked like The Skiboarder from Heck, and like Venom, he didn't have his helmet/facecoverance on enough.
Blue
May 7th, 2007, 01:14 PM
I really liked it. It was long, but didn't drag. The nerd in me was shocked that venom/goblin were killed off. Although if you wait after the credits you see venom isn't dead at all.
I thought this film wrapped up pretty much everything, so i wasn't expecting anything new. But i just got word of spider-man 4 so.. i guess we'll see what happens in the next one.
monstertree
May 7th, 2007, 03:24 PM
I wouldn't say it was excellent filmmaking, but I was definately entertained throughout - so I would have to say that I liked it. Being a comic book geek there were certain things that annoyed me : venom's high pitched screech like a jurassic park dinosaur every 5 minutes, the hillbilly teeth that the actor wore while he was venom - i dunno little picky things that went against my idea of the characters from the books. The most annoying bit for me was the attempt at an 'iconic' shot against the flag, i dont know why but it pissed me off a bit. I could forget about that stuff and have fun though.
I quite liked the dancing bits, was quite surprised to hear people were annoyed by it - it's what i'd do if I had superpowers, just go around acting like a smooth bastard wherever I went.
I'd recommend people go and see it if they want a film that's good fun, full of nice looking effects and they are into superheroes ;)
rustikof
May 7th, 2007, 03:53 PM
i thought it played out like a comic book---goofy at points, heavy-handed at others, fast, quick, awesome at others.
I only thing I really wished was that they gave the whole peter vs. eddie thing a little more development..instead of the whole mj/peter/harry love triangle thing.
Otherwise the movie was awesome.
asoir
May 7th, 2007, 04:26 PM
i loved it! best in series imo, lots of pretty good comedy pieces too.
made me laugh at least.
Carnifex
May 7th, 2007, 05:45 PM
I quite liked the dancing bits, was quite surprised to hear people were annoyed by it - it's what i'd do if I had superpowers, just go around acting like a smooth bastard wherever I went.
it was fun at first,but when he came out of the shop and started randomly dancing i just thought "oh no,he didn't".
if you mean the one where he dances with gwen though,i thought that was fun too. although of course very,very mean towards mj ;)
i just felt the story lacked a whole lot,it's like effects,action and goofyness was developed first,and the story thrown in as an afterthought.
and oh,how very fitting that the comet hit not 10 meters from mj and peter, but NOone heard or saw anything. :nohope:
one2hit
May 7th, 2007, 06:15 PM
I quite liked the dancing bits, was quite surprised to hear people were annoyed by it - it's what i'd do if I had superpowers, just go around acting like a smooth bastard wherever I went.
I think they could have played the smooth bastard thing better. If they wanna show him confident and cool that's one thing. When everyone else looks at him like he's the biggest wanna-be, loser, jerk to ever hit the city that's another thing. "So you think you're hot shit in a campaign glass but you're really just cold diarrhea in a dixie cup". And here's Pete strutting the streets with his color up, hair covering one eye of two wearing make up. Pointing and pelvis thrusting at every ugly or beautiful ho that walks his way. Wtf is going on, this is so far derived from anything I've ever remembered, previous movies included. Remember it's an alien goop that's making him do all of this. I'd like to ask "How can I take this shit seriously?" but when answered "you don't, it's a comic book movie" all I can say back is "I could have, if it were written well".
Nam
May 7th, 2007, 06:31 PM
Bad, bad, bad movie. I liked the first two, especially the first one, because they kept things simple, had ONE villian to develop and it had a good heart. This one... some of the serious moments were so CONTRIVED and out of nowhere that most people were laughing. Case in point being the Butler scene... what the hell? That's some pretty important information for you to keep until JUST NOW, how conveniant. They should have just had one well developed villian and not tried to cram in three. And Peter Parker hitting Mary Jane? Also so out of place that people actually laughed. Symbiotic suit or not.
The dance scene was so goofy and ridiculous i actually thought to myself as it was happening, 'is this a dream sequence?.. are they serious with this stuff?'. Sure it is a funny scene but it doesn't FIT. They also screwed up Venom horribly, Topher Grace should not have been casted as him... nothing against Topher, I love him as an actor in a comedy role but he is no Venom. And why does Venom keep Tophers voice and look horribly cartoony? He should have had that alien voice he had in the spiderman cartoon. And what happened to Venom referring to himself in the third person?
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It should be a crime that a movie that was that shoddy and hokey broke so many records. I'm well aware its' 'based off a comic book' but that doesn't mean you can't do it RIGHT. This was clearly not executed correctly. There was too much going on, it was too long and the last fight where Sandman and Venom teamed up should have never even happened. Way too forced and like they were trying to wrap it up quick.
The one good thing I can say was that the CGI on Sandman (especially when he was first trying to form his body) was absolutely amazing.
Neondevil
May 7th, 2007, 06:50 PM
What this movie needed was entirely more crying.
Also you shot my uncle. I'm cool with that and you know the whole trying to kill me and my chick thing. So yeah just float off into the wind.
Djohnston
May 7th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Funniest movie I've seen all year!
do you have nuts?
no.
go make me some.
Dizon
May 7th, 2007, 10:28 PM
i thought it played out like a comic book---goofy at points, heavy-handed at others, fast, quick, awesome at others.
I only thing I really wished was that they gave the whole peter vs. eddie thing a little more development..instead of the whole mj/peter/harry love triangle thing.
Otherwise the movie was awesome.
That's what I thought. And that last fight could make an ideal comic book cover, don't you think???
MrSmith
May 7th, 2007, 11:11 PM
fucking terrible.
should have called it "Peter Parker the whiny bitch and his girlfriend"
who wrote that crap? the action was cool (all ten minutes of it) then the rest just sucked.
spiderman got schumachered.
Caskin
May 8th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Although if you wait after the credits you see venom isn't dead at all.
Oh? Really? We waited until after the credits and didn't see anything, although we certainly hoped to see something.... what did you happen to get a glimpse of?
Chariot
May 8th, 2007, 02:38 AM
There is this basic screenwriting tool that some writers use, it is a tellback process where you have your friend tell you about your own movie in his own words so to speak, simplifies things and brings some basic areas that might be problematic to light when they might have been overlooked.
Spiderman3 tellback...
"Ok so there is this new movie out about this hero spiderman who has weblike powers from a spiderbite, this time he is up against three villains, one is his old best friend, who wants to kill spiderman for killing his father except this time he gets amnesia and becomes his friend again but then begins to remember everything again then tries to kill him again but then decides to help spiderman in the end. And there is this other villain Sandman, he is made of sand from a science experiment and is the real reason why spiderman's uncle is dead, well kinda, it changes. Then there is this space symbiote named venom which links up with spiderman and gives him even more power but also turns him dark, so spiderman seperates from it. Then there is this other photographer named Broc who gets the venom thing and takes on spiderman because he is angry that he is out of a job and a girl because of him, so he teams up with sandman. Oh and MJ loses her job too as well as spidey but then gets both a new job at a jazz club and spiderman back, after spiderman and goblin team up and beat venom and sandman...Sounds good huh."
This film is a MESS!
I dont ever expect it to be a perfect world but common!! This seems like a case of two screenplays that somehow merged into an unpolished mess of making execs and creatives both happy while leaving the audience confused and irritated. It has been a long time since I have heard so many moans and groans from an audience before, and this was one very excited and dedicated 12am friday night crowd.
Either pick Venom or Sandman, sorry it has to be one or the other...
Here are some variation ideas.
1. Spidey and Goblin vs. Sandman....Harry finally finds redemption and helps Spidey take on Sandman.
2. Spidey and Goblin vs. Venom.......Once again, redemption and it is a balls out Spidey and Goblin vs Venom through the entire city.
3. Spidey vs. Goblin vs. Sandman....Harry flies off his rocker and makes Dad look like a cakewalk in clinical psychology, it is a 3way battle across the city with Spidey caught in the middle.
4. Spidey and Sandman vs. Venom...The "I might have killed your father in some indirect way" plot is cut, Venom is on a rampage to get his girl from the safety of the police comissioner and it is going to take a Sandman redemption moment with Spidey to stop him, Harry keeps his amnesia and allows him to carry into the 4th film, sans moving scar.
Just some thoughts.
monstertree
May 8th, 2007, 04:46 AM
it was fun at first,but when he came out of the shop and started randomly dancing i just thought "oh no,he didn't".
Yeah I agree with that, thought he is a bit of a goon so that may have been how he thought you acted smooth. I did think the dance with Gwen was kinda cool though, reminded me of the Mask.
I also agree about that comet, I was expecting them to hear it, go and investigate THEN it grabs peter......but no.
It was a bit messy yeah, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it sucked - I had fun watching it for the majority of the film
RogerAdams
May 8th, 2007, 02:40 PM
I think my biggest gripe with the movie is the f@cked up the origin yet again. First, Peter lets the thug, who he thinks killed his uncle, just fall to his death. I never understood why they did that. What was gained? The essence of the character is lost. Peter would give his life to save his worst enemy.
And now it was really The Sandman who accidentally killed his uncle? So Peter is totally cool that he let the thug die in the first movie? WTF? It's like they just added the Sandman bit just to give Peter a motivation to hate him. "I only go after bad guys that kill my uncle."
Twiggy
May 8th, 2007, 06:06 PM
I enjoyed the movie, there were some boring parts, and parts that got me confused, and those realy irriating little bits
I agree Venom wasn't scary and menancing at all, I still thought he was cool, but they didn't even include his long sexy tongue coverd with slimy drool, thats the kinda stuff I was expected to have shoved down my throut. However the symbiote thing was cool, I liked it a lot.
The part where venom cleverly gets trapped by those metal poles I liked too.
I've got a feeling we'll see venom in the next intallment, I don't believe they could kill off such a character so quickly.:dead:
one2hit
May 9th, 2007, 02:39 AM
He exploded. You could even see Eddie Brock's bones.
Carnifex
May 9th, 2007, 05:20 AM
if he truly died (which i don't quite believe myself), this would be the lame-est movie EVER.
Twiggy
May 9th, 2007, 06:27 AM
He exploded. You could even see Eddie Brock's bones.
The only left overs I remember seesing was bits of burning symbiote. What I don't get is how a single pumkin bomb could wipe him out, when harry's only got half his face burnt. Just seems a bit too done n dusted.
anyway, I feel it my veins he aint quite dead, if thats the only vemon we'll ever see that would be pretty lame.
Haymaker
May 9th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Well, according to some spidey-fans Venom is dead, but in the church-scene, There is 'someone' watching when Brock becomes Venom. And that guy should be Carnage in the next part (with another Symbiote).
I think it wasnt a bad movie though, have seen worse. What I missed was some jaw-dropping action (a few minutes of Venom was way too short), but overall it was funny and entertaining.
Dizon
May 9th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Well, according to some spidey-fans Venom is dead, but in the church-scene, There is 'someone' watching when Brock becomes Venom. And that guy should be Carnage in the next part (with another Symbiote).
I think it wasnt a bad movie though, have seen worse. What I missed was some jaw-dropping action (a few minutes of Venom was way too short), but overall it was funny and entertaining.
Really???
I'd be interested to see other villains like "The Lizard" than Venom. I'm sure a lot of people are waiting for that moment when Doc Connors finally mutates. The way they depicted Venom doesn't have enough worth for him to come back, IMO.
Velez
May 9th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Nothing much more I can add other than what was said before, Venom should of been bigger and badder, like Spiderman whenever his mask is torn they shouldn't show Venom's true face, it ruins the feel of the character, I mean c'mon, when you show their faces their characters instantly go from badass to wimp, I think the fight between Venom and Spidey should of lasted longer, though the theatre I go to should seriously consider turning the volume down since every time Venom screams my eardrums nearly burst, "dark" Peter was still a big pansy trying to act cool, and the scened throughout the movie are overall to short and random.
But other than those things I enjoyed the movie and I think it was worth the money.
Momus
May 11th, 2007, 10:59 PM
How was it? You sure you want to know? The story of this film is not for the faint of heart. If somebody said it was a pleasing little tale… if somebody told you it was just your perfect end to a trilogy, not a flaw in the script… somebody lied.
tomwaits4noman
May 12th, 2007, 08:15 AM
I find it ironic that the maker of one of the most popular low budget cult films evil dead (1 or 2 take your pick) could write and direct a film that can only be described as .. a trainwreck.
The script was poor, I am not a big spidey fan, more a batman type of guy.
I have never seen such a disregard for strong story elements ever in a superhero film well not since Spawn that film killed my interest in that comic book.
Problems with the film are well covered.
lets talk the good elements spoilers ahead
Bruce Campbell's french accent
Problems in Mary Jane and Peter's relationship
Peter gets angry
Harry seeks revenge nice touch breaking up peter and mj
brock becomes venom - the whole church scene with spidey on the spiral looked well.
now some of the bad- to cover everything would take too long.
Aunt May as Jimmey cricket too cliche.
the dance scene- both of them
the fact that the symbiote attached itself to spidey's suit and not his skin
the fan boy in my cried at that f**k up
Venom under used
personally I think it would be better if Venom went on rampage and spidey was blamed therefore mirroring the parade and crowd worshipping.
that fact that harry and mj's brief thing had more chemistry and parker and mj through the whole movie.
There were good elements but they missed the mark on all of them
If it did not have the potential to be as good as the 2nd one it would not have been such a disappointment.
one last thing spidey swinging past the American flag what like of post 9/11 flag waving propaganda is that - ok I am not american or anti american It was just so OTT- I have no problem with country pride, this kind of thing was handled better in Ghost busters 2 with statue of liberty, in spidey 3 it was clumsy and corny like much of the film
end of rant..phew.
darkersun
May 12th, 2007, 10:01 AM
I enjoyed the movie but i agree with everyone about the whole melodrama and cheeze factor... harry MJ thing useless, land lords daughter useless... venom....WHY!!!!!! why did they have to make him the way the did... i love venom from the comics... His outer appearance when he is with eddy looks like cloth like the cloth of spidys costume... i would have preferred it to be the black slimey substance as its supposed to be...the final budget was over 540 million! if i were the producer i would fire the writers... i hope the next one is better and i saw in an interview that they are making one... anyways lets see what next... hope they bring carnage or the lizard dude... speaking of which....
Dr. Conner is it? (peters professor) has a small sample of the black venom goop in his lab... which could easily escape...
REGNIRUTH
May 12th, 2007, 11:21 AM
i thought it sucked.
Venom was very homo and un-cool.
The Peter Parker dance was wtf.
Sandman backstory not enough depth.
nuff said
LaPalida
May 12th, 2007, 12:00 PM
It was awful.
asoir
May 12th, 2007, 12:08 PM
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0kelvin
May 12th, 2007, 04:45 PM
I've heard a lot of complaints about it, but I thought the jazz club scene was actually one of the best scenes in the movie. Throughout the movie, I got the feeling that Sam Raimi was just incredibly bored with the whole thing, but when the dance scene came along it was like he was having fun again. It was inventive and cheesy and dark. That's what Sam Raimi's really good at. It's like the birth of Dock Ock scene in Spiderman 2, when he kills all the doctors. Both of those scenes let Raimi cut loose a little. I'd love to see an entire Spiderman movie that had the enthusiasm and inventiveness of those two scenes.
Eric
Jason Rainville
May 12th, 2007, 11:48 PM
If venom was cut out of the movie (which would have been easy) it would have been presentable.
Otherwise.... bleh. Way to ruin a trilogy. Just because the fans scream for venom, don't just stick him in there as an anfterthought. WTF. I really REALLY want to know why he felt the need to overstuff this movie.
Jazz
May 13th, 2007, 09:27 AM
I liked it! O_O I thought it was GOOD! Mind you, I was annoyed with Peter's attitude through pretty much the whole movie, until the end when Harry was dying. -_-;; Peter just made me sick at one point, when he was REALLY giving the ladies the eye. Oy. >_<
I felt for MJ. Talk about all the bad luck in the world. AND hanging from vehicle way up high AGAIN? ...I thought something similar happened in Spidey 1. After that big dance with Gwen, I wasn't at all surprised that Peter hit SOMEONE. I just thought he'd hit Gwen, sweet as she is. o_O
You know what? I appreciate what they did with Venom. Considering how 3D-enhanced characters in live-action tend to really look like animations, that's a great job they did!! I wonder, if they made him look more fierce, might he have lost some of that realistic look? Ohhhh yeah, and...was it Brock? At first, when he was hoping for Peter's mercy, I did feel bad cuz he sounded pitiful. But then I realise, you deserved it, man. You would've kept going if no one caught your fake shot. Meh.
Sandman also looked cool. I love how he wasn't simply sand, his body including the skeleton were still in him. The guy seemed nice. It was strange to give the image of him being a ruthless murderer, when Peter found out about Uncle Ben's real killer. I saw that kind of thing happen too many times. But I must say, he was pretty harsh when he needed to yank some money!!
I think my favourite fights were when Harry fought Peter. Both fights were just so fast-paced and not too short! And the hits...loved Peter's yelps! Hee hee! I guess because those two were on pretty much the same level--one wasn't making things easy for the other--that did it for me. Loved it!
Gosh, there's probably more... The landlord's daughter...she's a cutie, but I was kind of expecting Peter to do SOMETHING with her besides get her to make cookies in the end. Ohhh, but then that would be MORE drama. -_-; Had plenty of that with him and MJ. All that Spiderman talk on his end, I'd wanna slap him. :P
My take is all over the place. XD
LaPalida
May 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM
I've heard a lot of complaints about it, but I thought the jazz club scene was actually one of the best scenes in the movie. Throughout the movie, I got the feeling that Sam Raimi was just incredibly bored with the whole thing, but when the dance scene came along it was like he was having fun again. It was inventive and cheesy and dark. That's what Sam Raimi's really good at. It's like the birth of Dock Ock scene in Spiderman 2, when he kills all the doctors. Both of those scenes let Raimi cut loose a little. I'd love to see an entire Spiderman movie that had the enthusiasm and inventiveness of those two scenes.
EricHah I agree with you there. I thought that scene was hilarious.
Carnifex
May 14th, 2007, 10:46 AM
did anyone else think that gwen is hotter than mj? :)
0kelv -agh,whenever i think of the birth of doc ock scene,i think about the one doctor being dragged into the shadow with her nails screeching on the floor. :D that sound...ouch :tihi:
Interceptor
May 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM
I've heard a lot of complaints about it, but I thought the jazz club scene was actually one of the best scenes in the movie. Throughout the movie, I got the feeling that Sam Raimi was just incredibly bored with the whole thing, but when the dance scene came along it was like he was having fun again. It was inventive and cheesy and dark. That's what Sam Raimi's really good at. It's like the birth of Dock Ock scene in Spiderman 2, when he kills all the doctors. Both of those scenes let Raimi cut loose a little. I'd love to see an entire Spiderman movie that had the enthusiasm and inventiveness of those two scenes.
Eric
Fruity dances should not be something you associate with Spider-Man.
And like 4 pelvic thrusts in one sitting, wtf?
I'm with Carni, though... blonde haired Bruce Dallas Howard is too hot :).
asoir
May 14th, 2007, 11:51 AM
did anyone else think that gwen is hotter than mj? :)
0kelv -agh,whenever i think of the birth of doc ock scene,i think about the one doctor being dragged into the shadow with her nails screeching on the floor. :D that sound...ouch :tihi:
dude. a trillion times hotter <3
Utum
May 15th, 2007, 04:36 PM
What a CRAP!!!!!!!
I just had to say that, i'm no fan anymore.
Carnifex
May 16th, 2007, 09:01 AM
dude. a trillion times hotter <3
which (after looking her up) almost surprises me,as she was utterly ugly (imo) in "the village" (which i hated). who'd have thought :)
rustikof
May 16th, 2007, 02:18 PM
WELLLL...i mean, if you think about it, whats a super nerdy guy who is awkward socially and has not a whole lot of self esteem going to do when he gets powered up by a evil symbiote?
thats right, what any nerd who wnats to be cool but doesnt know how to would do...
turn emo. i personally give props to raimi for that decision. it was a completely sensible decision. dance like a douchebag? check. do the emo hair and eye make-up like all the super rad "hardcore" (read:crappy emo bands) are doing? check. pop the collar? check. wear black and try to be all smooth but come across as creepy and retarded? CHECK!
Icelandic Norm
May 19th, 2007, 03:19 AM
Admittedly the first two were much better in regards to action. Okay, this one got a little more into the emotional aspects of Peter Parker, Harry Osborn and Mary Jane- this movie was more soap and less dirt.
Suggestions for Spider-Man 4 anyone?
Fellah.
June 2nd, 2007, 02:58 AM
Haha, man - just saw it yesterday and even after hearing a lot of bad about it, it was worse than i thought it would be. It was a joke. Worst story-telling i have seen in years mixed with bad acting...Brock just happens to be in the church, when Peter rips the venomsuit off, a truck filled with sand just happens to be next to the Sandman, when he needs it, etc etc. I could go on, but i'm already bored just thinking about it again:tihi:
one2hit
June 5th, 2007, 04:45 PM
http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=1999 don't be. Here come the toys to milk even more. Best movie to Toy version yet!
Carnifex
June 6th, 2007, 07:17 AM
ROFL "awesome forgiving powers"
perfect!
Moai
June 6th, 2007, 11:05 AM
"But we haven't even introduced all the villains yet!!"
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