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slickgreekgeo
February 18th, 2007, 07:27 AM
With Persephone, I wanted to be experiment with new techniques, as well as being bolder with my color choices. To do this, I studied some of my favorite artists, mainly Bouguereau for color. I created dozens of custom brushes to get the vegetation just right (it was very time consuming I admit, but I can use these brushes to save time for future works). For highly detailed areas like the birds and face, I painted them double the size and shrunk them down (it's actually a lot faster this way, as opposed to struggling with getting detail down at a very small size).

Reference for the figure can be found here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46017998/?qo=12&q=by%3Amondkalbstock&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

I also looked up a lot of references to get a feel for the background, but nothing too closely. The background was easily the hardest part of this painting (It took me 5 times to get right, I kid you not).

Overall, I'm quite satisfied with this piece (I think it's my strongest in terms of detail and color). I worked on this on and off from January to now, so I would say this took more than 100 hours.

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For those unfamiliar with Persephone, here's an excerpt from Widi:

“The figure of Persephone is well-known today. Her story has great emotional power: an innocent maiden, a mother's grief at the abduction, and the return of her daughter. It is also cited frequently as a paradigm of myths that explain natural processes, with the descent and return of the goddess bringing about the change of seasons.”

You can read the full article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone

A larger version of this painting can be found here (http://www.mkrevolution.net/art/grass/persephonelg.jpg).
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Hope you enjoy, feedback is always appreciated.

slickgreekgeo
February 18th, 2007, 07:27 AM
*Please take a look at the close ups, as I spent tons of time getting in all those details:

http://www.mkrevolution.net/art/grass/face.jpg

http://www.mkrevolution.net/art/grass/bird.jpg

http://www.mkrevolution.net/art/grass/foot.jpg

http://www.mkrevolution.net/art/grass/frog.jpg

Haxxxor
February 18th, 2007, 08:18 AM
red nipples wohooo
the bg looks a bit to blury but the woman has very sharp edges what doesn't fit very good the bg especially the tree should get some more edges.
but anyways it is a great peace and i think the 100hours were worth it.
i hope you show us more from this sort because the painting rocks

Elwell
February 18th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Is there a reason why the hummingbirds are so enormous?

indigo flynn
February 18th, 2007, 09:09 AM
She looks very old and sort of jaded- it's lovely, but I can't possibly see her as Persephone.

Rickert
February 18th, 2007, 09:48 AM
Very beautifull. My first reaction on this piece was: it's a little bit too 'crispy/sharp' (too much detail maybe?). And the blurry area (motion-blur) irritates me and distracts from the piece as a whole I think..

Still, I may be not right about that.

Furthermore, I must say it's nicely rendered but a little bit overkill IMO. Maybe it's because of my personal taste for sketchiness in a piece. It looks like there's been too much time in it.


Excuses for the harshness in my words here. Don't get me wrong it's a great(!) work of art, I'm just trying to give some critique instead of asskissing.

[EDIT:the more I look the more I like it. Some parts for example; the colorfull, blurry background on the left, the bird and the bird are superbe done.
Also the rest of the sketchy parts is what stands out, and I like the tree. Just some parts are too sharp in my opinion and kind of give the painting an unbalanced look-->sketchy//fullyrendered..]



^Rick ;)

chaosrocks
February 18th, 2007, 09:55 AM
My first thought was a costume era continuity thing..yes I know she's naked. but shes definitly wearing comtemporary make-up and its rather harsh and unnatural make up at that. I know the Persephone got hardened in her 6 months in hades, but Hades took her because she was innocent and beautiful.... This woman is beautiful.

on a technical note she doesn't look like shes actually sitting on the ground, but rather floating above it. The style is elegant but not quite integrated.

chaos

Hermine
February 18th, 2007, 10:01 AM
i cant see the ref you used, need to be login i think.

slickgreekgeo
February 18th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Haxxxor: Thank you; I admit I 'overblurred' some parts; I'm a big fan of blurring areas (especially the bg) to add depth, but it seems I overdid it. And yes, I learned a lot of new techniques and more about color, all of which I'll apply to to future paintings.

Elwell: I was expressing my artistic freedom. I kid; I guess I got 'immune' to the size of the birds after painting for so long, that they seemed to be 'correct'. I agree with you there.

indigo flynn: 'Old' was something I definitely wasn't going for, but I appreciate your honesty.

Rickert: I always appreciate honesty and 'harsh' critiques more than 'asskissing'; It helps me improve tremendously and is one of the reasons I choose to post at this forum, so don't be afraid to offend :) You have a point about the whole sharpness/blurry thing, I admit I overdid it. As for the sketchy/refined thing, I guess I painted in that way so I can hold the viewere's attention in the more detailed parts. I admit I wasn't entirely successful at that, I'm still learning :)

chaosrocks: You're make some good points, especially in regards to the contemporary look (I'll definitely keep that in mind when I paint more images greek-myth related). You have a point about the floating thing, I definitely skimmed over that bit. Great feedback, thanks for posting.

Hermine: Try this link, let me know if it works: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46017998/?qo=12&q=by%3Amondkalbstock&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

I would post the image at my server, but I doubt the model would appreciate that.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to post, much appreciated (and very honest, gotta appreciate that).