Morty's Sketchbook, Updates almost never. [Archive]

Morthrong Eterech

February 2nd, 2007, 12:28 PM

(Edited) Well, Hi there, and I welcome you to my sketchbook! I also welcome you to give constructive criticism, and other comments. Be aware that my age is fourteen, and I'm still a beginner. Also note that if you can't understand what I'm talking about, that is because I'm from the cozy little country named 'the Netherlands.' So who wants to help me improve, I welcome thee. I started drawing 'seriously' almost one year ago. However, I draw stuff as long as I can remember.
I'll first post some random crap I did long ago [Since this post from february is edited, and it's now the 1st of august, it indeed is long ago.] I must say have already improved a lot in this year, especially the last months/weeks. Still, I need a lot of study on anatomy - So, I am working on it! Now let's get started.

Cheerio! ;)
Morty.

P.S Please Be aware that the following drawings [under these posts] may contain mature content!

Jason Rainville

February 2nd, 2007, 03:54 PM

The problems of my drawings are that they are too small, and they are made by a webcam...

You're a webcam?! :O gj on making a SB. You really need to invest in a scanner (or try the local library/school, which usually allows free access)

Morthrong Eterech

February 4th, 2007, 07:48 AM

You're a webcam?! :O gj on making a SB. You really need to invest in a scanner (or try the local library/school, which usually allows free access)

I meant 'with' :^^: And that it is the problem of the pictures ^^
However, my friend has a scanner. I think I'll persuade him to let me use it some times.

Cheerio!

Nigel

February 4th, 2007, 08:01 AM

My advice would be get some pictures or even better get someone to pose for you and practice on drawing faces. It in my opinion helps to do this step by step, so do a page of noses today, and a page of mouths tomorrow. gl.

Morthrong Eterech

February 4th, 2007, 08:14 AM

Nigel

February 4th, 2007, 08:37 AM

Sure, just ask one of your friends, relatives or family members. And they dont nessecarly have to model, they could just be watching tv or reading a book ;) But if none of that works try using personal photo's or from magazines/internet.

Morthrong Eterech

February 4th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Morthrong Eterech

July 28th, 2007, 01:07 PM

Well, I'm back after a LONG while, and I now have a scanner since a few months. [4? 5?] I'll first show some older stuff, then I give the link to my Deviantart, then I'll show the sketches on anatomy I did the last few weeks. The stuff I have shown earlier is really old, I see now.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0035-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0034-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0039-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0031-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-2.jpg

Those drawings are pretty old now, also, and I'll show some others later. Then, I'll show the sketches I'm working on now.

Here's the link to my Deviantart: http://olafbrouwer.deviantart.com/

Jason Rainville

July 28th, 2007, 01:10 PM

I've seen and commented on all these already, so I'll just say - it would be a lot easier of you attatched these (go to edit -> go advanced and hit manage attatchments at the bottom) or directly link to the pics. Just makes everything easier.

Ah hell I'll say it again; your progress is really good man. Keep up your practice and you'll be another goog or justin oaksford or jason chan, which is a great artist right out of highschool :P

EDIT: shit, now they're showing up. I retract my statement.

Morthrong Eterech

July 28th, 2007, 01:13 PM

More older drawings:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0036-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0045-2.jpg

Some of them are pretty dull, I know.

Edit: Oh, thanks so much, Rhineville ^^ I hope indeed I can get as good as Goog [However, I haven't seen any of his stuff yet. He must be very good, though.]

Aila

July 29th, 2007, 05:11 AM

Morthrong Eterech

July 29th, 2007, 07:30 AM

I've said it often but I'll gladly say it again :) You've really improved a lot over these months! The anatomy studies are really paying off. I also love that landscape picture there.
Keep up the great work, lots of success and inspiration to you! :D

Thanks a lot! The binoculars are crappy, though :P

Here are the sketches I was working on the last few weeks. Again, I warn that some of the drawings contain nudity and stuff.

The first one was wrong, as you can see:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-4.jpg

Some things needed to be edited:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen00023.jpg

And here are more practice sketches [however, I did many many more, and these are just a few of them. Others can been seen on my Deviantart-site. The link is in a post somewhere above this one]:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0018-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0027-3.jpg

This one has too long arms:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-4.jpg

This one has a small head:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0025-4.jpg

This one also, but that doesn't really matter:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0026-3.jpg

On this drawing, the girl in the front has a weapon in both her hands, but it's invisible for the viewer:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0031-4.jpg

And, another dull drawing.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0030-3.jpg

That was actually all for today. ^^

Edit:
Oh, no, wait. Here's another one I forgot to post earlier [don't mind her wrong, round breasts, physics doesn't affect them]:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-3.jpg

Oh, and I did not use any reference on any of my drawings.

throtailer

July 29th, 2007, 07:57 AM

You can draw figures, but dont know anatomy and proportions. Study it. Read books about it.

Morthrong Eterech

July 29th, 2007, 12:32 PM

You can draw figures, but dont know anatomy and proportions. Study it. Read books about it.

I'm working on it, in case you didn't notice.

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Is it so hard to draw bad? No, it isn't. Let me show it off here.. [Older stuff+things I did today and yesterdaynight]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-4.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0033-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0034-3.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0032-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0035-2.jpg

Last one really really sucks, but that's because it's pretty old/very old.
--- And to all the nice guys here, I AM studying anatomy! There are eyes to see with, and if you have them, you can see that I am really trying, practicing, and all that stuff. And if you come here and say: go learn anatomy, retard! In any way, then you are quite useless to me. I need constructive criticism, like everyone does. I'm still learning, you know, let that be clear.

Cheerio! ;)
Morty.

Aila

July 29th, 2007, 01:08 PM

--- And to all the nice guys here, I AM studying anatomy! There are eyes to see with, and if you have them, you can see that I am really trying, practicing, and all that stuff. And if you come here and say: go learn anatomy, retard! In any way, then you are quite useless to me. I need constructive criticism, like everyone does. I'm still learning, you know, let that be clear.

ah don't let comments like the above get you down! :) Its obvious you are working on it, hell you even said it in your opening post.

Anyway.. the last pic with the female poses made me think of something that you could try out. I thought the one in the middle has a really nice elegant pose. Maybe you can draw a pose like that, but with more flowing lines to increase the effect, if you understand what I mean ^^ I'm not saying theres something wrong with your linework, its just something that occurred to me that would be interesting to try out :)

Morthrong Eterech

July 29th, 2007, 01:25 PM

ah don't let comments like the above get you down! :) Its obvious you are working on it, hell you even said it in your opening post.

Anyway.. the last pic with the female poses made me think of something that you could try out. I thought the one in the middle has a really nice elegant pose. Maybe you can draw a pose like that, but with more flowing lines to increase the effect, if you understand what I mean ^^ I'm not saying theres something wrong with your linework, its just something that occurred to me that would be interesting to try out :)

Yeah, I see what you mean, I'll try :) However, what's the middle? There are five drawings :P Ok, ok, you mean the one with the gun in her hand. I'll see what I can do, and I hope it works out well.

Aila

July 29th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Yeah, I see what you mean, I'll try :) However, what's the middle? There are five drawings :P Ok, ok, you mean the one with the gun in her hand. I'll see what I can do, and I hope it works out well.

no I meant the lady in the middle of the poses picture ^_^ who has her arms raised over her head like as if she is dancing ;)

Morthrong Eterech

July 29th, 2007, 01:35 PM

no I meant the lady in the middle of the poses picture ^_^ who has her arms raised over her head like as if she is dancing ;)

Argh, I just saw it and tried to edit my post, but you are quick :wink: Ok, then.

Morthrong Eterech

July 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0036-2.jpg

Another sketchy. However, I didn't have enough energy left to re-draw the 'posing dancer'.

Here are a few old/very old/ancient sketches.. You actually can't critique those, because I have improved much since then. Heh.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0030-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-1.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-1.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0069.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0068.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-1.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0037-1.jpg

Ah well, that was all. I say it again, do not critique the above drawings, because they are from long ago. You can critique the skull, though..

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

July 31st, 2007, 01:35 PM

Probably not worth updating..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0037-4.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0039-3.jpg

Yeah, they suck. I must do more anatomy. More and more and more. Sometimes it just all feels useless and hopeless, but well. I must head on the path that I'm following, I guess?

Cheerio! ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

August 1st, 2007, 09:50 AM

The stuff I did today and yesterday-night.

First one is unreferenced but very dull. Second one, the same. Third one, the same. Yeah. None of them are finished, but that's what makes them sketches, eh?

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-5.jpg http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-5.jpg http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-5.jpg

Hm. I'll keep trying.
Cheerio! ;)
Morty.

Aila

August 1st, 2007, 12:26 PM

I like that last guy, nice armour! I don't think he's dull ^_^ Good work for the fact ist unreferenced, imo!

Morthrong Eterech

August 1st, 2007, 12:39 PM

Good work for the fact ist unreferenced, imo!

Well yeah, you're right about that; few months ago I couldn't do this stuff, methinks. However, sometimes I doubt about those things.. But thanks a lot!

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Hm, I wish I could upload some more. But I already did that today.. also, I haven't done anything else today.

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 2nd, 2007, 09:50 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-5.jpg

That's all. Now I'll be offline for 9 days, because I'm going to Sweden!

Morthrong Eterech

August 12th, 2007, 09:56 AM

Back from Sweden. I only drew really crap things back there.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-5.jpg
After looking at this drawing, I saw I don't draw the muscles, but just.. skin.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-4.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-4.jpg

And this one I had referenced - however, I placed the reference upside down. Then, I started drawing.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-4.jpg

Some other dull sketches.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-3.jpg

That's all. I must keep working on anatomy, or I'll DIE! (Die!.. die!..)

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Jason Rainville

August 12th, 2007, 10:06 AM

Don't die morty :O :wink:

Good to see you still kept your stuff up. I don't know why, but it's damn hard for me to sketch on vacation, or any place I haven't been :shrug:

Anywyas, really like that expression in the last pic. You know what you have to do for anatomy, just keep doing it! Remember to measure though - for arms, make little circles to measure where the arm would fall if resting alongside the body (with the centre as the shoulder where the arm pivots) see if the elbow falls to the waist (just below ribcage) the wrist fall to the groin and the fingers fall to mid-thigh. If they dont, try to move them to those lengths.

Also, for your big monster-ish type creatures, remember that they have anatomy too. Try plotting out their mass with shapes first, and after their form is worked out, then plop on all the waky armor and spires and spikes etc.

Keep it up mister :D

Morthrong Eterech

August 12th, 2007, 10:17 AM

jedininjaman

August 12th, 2007, 10:40 AM

Keep pushing the anatomy, there has already been some great improvement in that regards
ANd the picture that you refferenced uppsidedown, I did that same excercize in school, and the same picture or reference sorce as well :)

But ya don't give up just keep pushing anatomy and drawing lots and if you get the time it would be cool if you could stop by my SB sometime
-jedininja

Morthrong Eterech

August 13th, 2007, 06:46 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-4.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-4.jpg

Aila

August 15th, 2007, 06:27 AM

heh, anatomy studies can be frustrating eh? I often wonder why, WHY the human body is so damn complex :P
anyway you appear to be doing more than me ^^ I still have to try out that upside down referencing myself. It sounds interesting..

Well, keep it up :)

Morthrong Eterech

August 15th, 2007, 12:12 PM

@Aila: Dunno if upside down referencing does anything good, though ;P My book says it may do, and you'll have to focus on the lines, not the bodyparts, like it is a jigsaw puzzle. I could not know if the drawing would be better if I'd just draw it with the reference, not upside down, in front of me, because I haven't tried it yet. I think so, though. Anyways, thanks, and success!

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Here's a sketch I did today, but there are loads of anatomical errors in it. Who can find all?

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0016-4.jpg

And another one wich photobucket didn't allow to show:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Jason Rainville

August 15th, 2007, 01:49 PM

That sounds like a challenge to me :D

- balloon boobies
- thick neck
- long right upper arm
- broken right forearm
- hands too small
- left hand twisted too far
- chin is crooked
- hips too low
- thighs too short

Don't get discouraged though, it was a while after my reference drawing of a whole whack of nudes that my bodies started to improve.

Keep 'er goin :)

Morthrong Eterech

August 16th, 2007, 07:43 AM

Morthrong Eterech

August 16th, 2007, 01:19 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0018-4.jpg

Both a little referenced, heheh. Let's keep going.

Morthrong Eterech

August 17th, 2007, 06:38 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen00199.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

August 18th, 2007, 12:51 PM

Some sketches I did today/yesterday.. Last one is not finished.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Krigbrann

August 18th, 2007, 01:28 PM

Wow, really nice anatomy studies man, you really have the motivation to improve there... the human body is just riddled with things that make the brain go *bam* and you seem to really be working your way around all the bumps. Try to keep your proportions in check and you should be fine.

Ps, some of you female figures are <3

Morthrong Eterech

August 19th, 2007, 08:51 AM

@MaxoftheSouth: Well thank ye, I indeed want to improve. Sometimes the better drawers here dismotivate me (Because they are so good that I think I will never ever become so good, but maybe this is wrong, because everyone can get good or better in their own unique way, wich means that you might never get as good as them, but also even as good as them or better, because your style can get unique (it already is, but..) and handsome in a way you would never expect). Sometimes they also motivate me, in this case they give me inspiration. You are right about the proportions, and I still need to practice anatomy and go on. A few posts ago already, I was angry at someone who said I should go practice anatomy, while I was already practicing it the whole time. But before he said it, he also mentioned that I can draw figures, but the anatomy is wrong. Actually I now believe he was right, or quite right. I mean, that's what I reckon. Anyways, thanks again, and I indeed try to make some of my female figures attractive in some way (Wich sometimes doesn't work, because of the distorted anatomy-things).

Now here's a few other stuff I did yesterdaynight. I might be doing some shading studies, or a shading sketch today/tonight/tomorrow.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0024-4.jpg

Oh, and the first two drawings are referenced.
Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 20th, 2007, 06:52 AM

Hm, I have more sketches/drawings done, but photobucket refuses to load. Darn it!

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 20th, 2007, 01:00 PM

New sketches. The first one has reaaaaally bad anatomy, that makes you say: 'What the crap is THAT?' The second one has sketches I referenced from other sketches, the last one has both referenced and unreferenced sketches, featuring feet, arm (Yes, one), and hands.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0025-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0026-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0027-4.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 21st, 2007, 08:46 AM

A thing I did yesterdaynight.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0028-3.jpg

Referenced, though. I don't really feel myself improving these days, and it also feels like I never will. But we all have those moments, don't we? At least, I hope so. I first used referenced a lot, then I stopped referencing, and now I'm referencing again (drawing with reference, that is). That means that after I've done these referenced drawings, sketches and studies, I must've improved when I don't use the referenced anymore.. However, I can't force it. I also drew a sketch of a piece of crumbled paper, but it didn't look like that at all, it looked more like... paper brains.

Cheerio ;)

Edit: Above sketch is very hastedly shaded, I could've done it better.

Jason Rainville

August 21st, 2007, 09:43 AM

Morthrong Eterech

August 21st, 2007, 01:12 PM

You are now far more productive than I. Congratulations :teeth:

Just want to pop in to say the improvement you've made, from the very first time I met you and mentioned about reference work, to now, is outstanding man. I took me about a year to go from kinda bad to kinda good. You went from placing people's eyes on the tops of their heads to these last reference drawings in about the same time. The change from symbols to observation is great.

I also see something of my 'style' if you wanna call it in the outlines and hatching... hehehe ;)
A few crits; breasts are still a bit of a problem. They're not quite as round and 'balloon like' before, but they could be a bit more natural. Try to think of them as parts of the chest, not 'attatched' to the chest but flaps of flesh protruding from it. I can't say much else though, since you're working on everything and I think you know what you need to do.

Keep going, have fun :D

Heh, maybe I'm indeed a little too harsh upon myself about my improvements. But well, I just want to 'understand' the human anatomy more. I always seem to be missing something. And yeah, maybe I sometimes used a bit of your style, to try out :dur: Didn't work out all that well, I'll create my own style eventually, though. And, alright, I shall do more.. boob studies! I'm looking forward now already. Maybe I can even use references from internet, so that my parents, suspiciously as they are, see me dragging whole boxes full of pictures of breasts to my room! Ok, ok, I'm exaggerating a little. I'll just see what I can do again. And, lots of thanks on the tips again, I hope I can do something with it!

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 22nd, 2007, 06:51 AM

I think I said I'd be doing a bit less rushed these days, but screw that! I keep on rolling.

1 - Reference used.
2 - No reference used.
3 - Reference used.
4 - Only reffed sketch is one of a breast. Yeah, it seems I just don't 'get' how to draw those breasts natural yet.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0032-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0031-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0030-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 22nd, 2007, 12:36 PM

Something stupid:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0033-3.jpg

Ignore the idiotic dude under the 'still-life', I don't even know if it's a man or a woman. What I do know is, that his anatomy is ri-di-cu-lous! But that was on purpose, of course. Used a new shading technique on the still-life, didn't work out all that well though.

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

August 23rd, 2007, 01:58 PM

Argh, I tried and tried and tried to draw male muscles, but it just won't work. I just don't 'get' the male muscles enough. Maybe if I practice a bit more? But I did that a lot already, why do I still don't feel like improving and why does it feel by accident everytime I draw something pretty good? Because, after every ' pretty good' drawing, I always draw it completely wrong afterwards. It's never anatomical correct what I draw - sometimes it's pretty good, sometimes it's not, but it's never anatomical correct. And looking at the SB's of other 14-year olds who draw male bodies almost perfectly isn't really helping. Darn, I really wish to improve, get motivated more from my improvements, and actually see that I have improven/improved (sp?). My inspiration is at level nihil right now.. Maybe it's because I've been doing a lot of sketching every day again, and now my eternal well of Inspiration is empty and needs to be refilled, wich can take days. Ah well, I sound like a depressed kid, wich I am not. Let's face it; I will improve! But it's not a matter of how, but it's a matter of when, I think. Heh, you know what is the most stupid way to start a book about how to draw? 'Drawing isn't hard, it's very easy!' I don't think you can call that motivation, because then you are questioning yourself (when you're dissapointed about your unimproved skills) 'what am I doing wrong, then?' or: 'That's a lie, it IS damn hard! At least, a long road to go, and now they're saying 'It's very easy, and everyone can do it'. Well, they shouldn't go easy on it.' And one of my drawing books actually starts like that, I hate that. Anyways I really want to understand the incredible bodies of both male and female sexes, and I want to put my pencil on the paper and be able to just 'draw', at least a rough sketch of the male/female body. Then, the other aspects of drawing can come up. But right now, I'm in the middle of doubt about my skills and improvement. Schools' coming up, also, wich means less time to improve/test out stuff. Even less than last year, because I screwed up that year, totally. Now, I really have to focus totally on my homework, wich is friggin' hard when you also have the ambition to discover and dissolve the mysteries of anatomy. I am afraid I now, for the first time, can only draw in weekends (When school starts again, wich is next monday). But well, let's hope I'll improve, bit by bit and step by step, then. It will go slower than last year, but I will improve. I will improve.

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

August 24th, 2007, 01:43 PM

Got frustrated when I wasn't able to draw muscles, and then this little drawing came up. Oh well.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0034-4.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 25th, 2007, 12:44 PM

Referenced:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0035-3.jpg

Argh.. I'm frustrated and inspirationless.

jedininjaman

August 25th, 2007, 01:46 PM

wow man, you have improved a lot... great work, just buckle down on the anatomy until you can do it without reference ;)
-jedininjaman

Aila

August 26th, 2007, 12:41 PM

Nice work especially on that last page, I like the shading on the female. Also good still life study! :)

Morthrong Eterech

August 26th, 2007, 01:05 PM

Thanks a lot you both =) I'll see if I can draw something else this week, but I'm not sure if I can do it daily anymore - school's starting again.

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 27th, 2007, 12:46 PM

These two suck. The lowest one has a head that sucks.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0036-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0037-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

August 28th, 2007, 02:09 PM

Argh, haven't done anything lately, but I'll do something, at least this week.

Morthrong Eterech

August 31st, 2007, 09:52 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0038-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0039-4.jpg

---
I'm mostly working on writings and homework these days, not on drawings. Both drawings are unreferenced..

Morthrong Eterech

September 1st, 2007, 06:45 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-6.jpg

That right guy is fun. Anatomical stupid, but fun. No ref used.

Morthrong Eterech

September 1st, 2007, 12:03 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-6.jpg

Anatomic'ly wrong, but unreferenced.
Unreferenced, but anatomic'ly wrong.

Morthrong Eterech

September 2nd, 2007, 07:53 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-6.jpg

Is it getting better? Or is it just the same?

Morthrong Eterech

September 2nd, 2007, 12:50 PM

Today, unreferenced:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-5.jpg

Aila

September 2nd, 2007, 06:02 PM

Ohh! Landscapes! I missed them :P Nice, I like the second one best. Must have taken ages to do the field on the first one, or? :o

Morthrong Eterech

September 3rd, 2007, 11:05 AM

Heh, yeah, took some hours, and I don;t really like the result. I drew pretty quickly also, that's why it looks so rough (and dull) now.. But thanks a lotty again, lady! ;) I was actually planning to draw a few dragon sketches, but I don't really know how to yet. I'll see, perhaps?

And here's some crap. Unreferenced, still (Except the last one).

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

September 6th, 2007, 01:41 PM

Did this today. Had a wonderful surfing/sailing/beachvolleyball-day today with my class, btw. First one is a thing made for a simplistic game, where I have a group in. (Nightwatch (Name of our group) It's a Zombie game.. The rest is utter rubbish. Oh well. Will I ever learn. Nothing of it is referenced, all drawn from my mindless mind. The second one is reeeeally bad (Hilariously bad, oh well)...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0016-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty, I guess.

Morthrong Eterech

September 7th, 2007, 10:53 AM

Morthrong Eterech

September 8th, 2007, 09:56 AM

Stupid stuff. Head of 2nd character is too small, or the breasts are too large. In my opinion, breasts can never be too large, so, the head is way too small. Yay.. Also, proportions are WRONGISH!

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0019-4.jpg

No ref used.
Cheerio ;)

FleetingShadow

September 8th, 2007, 10:25 AM

Wow, third page already. Didn't have that much critique-givers, wich makes me sad because I'm working every day for it, as hard as any other here, and receive only a little bit of feedback (A lot of thanks for those who replied, and even replied again, though!) but I also already expected it to happen, because I'm a beginning artist and not all that good, I'm not here all that long, and I don't make very interesting/inspiring art. Also, the others might've got other things on their minds, like replying to more popular topics/trying to draw themselves. I just say I expected a bit more. so.. I'll just keep on posting stuff.. Hrmgrrm.

Edit: Aghh, what am I ranting. And who am I to rant? I don't even comment on that much topics myself, also.

Hi Morthrong. :)
Ranting is okay , sometimes.. Do you think you need critique very badly? I think you are at a point where you know what you need to do to get better, which is, basically, work hard and draw a lot of referenced anatomy studies/ still lifes, ect. And you are doing this (well, I'd like to see more still lifes from you, but I know you are practicing anatomy). The more you draw and understand anatomy the easier it will become for you to realise what you are doing wrong and how you can do it right.

So, my point is, there isn't that much critique anyone can give you right now. You already are working hard, drawing all the time, doing studies. I wish you were doing more studies.. but I know how hard it can be at times to concentrate on them. I beleive Rhineville once said something like, "Don't measure your progress in days.. measure it in months or even years..As long as you can look back on your work of several months ago, and say "i've improved", than you are fine." .. Well, something like that.. anyway, he was very correct. You are improving , and , if you continue to draw at this pace, you will continue improving.

Besides.. I've always thought sketchbooks were more for their creators than the others who look at them.. I think it matters more to fill up your sketchbook with drawings than to get tons of comments from people saying things like "You need to work on anatomy more", "Wow, thats awesome!", "I like your style.", ect..

Anyway.. :blahblah:
I've noticed that , on your profile pictures you are repeatedly ommiting the back of the skull from the head. I know that you have Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist.. even if you already have, read over pages 10-13... and study the skull diagrams and remember the names of the bones.. I think it will help you. Even if you've already read it, read it again , because it looks like you need it. ;)

Good luck. :teeth:

jedininjaman

September 8th, 2007, 12:02 PM

just keep up the work bro, when you draw a face or body or whatever, just check all of the proportions, withe rules, like 7-8 heads tall, eyes halfway up the head etc... and anything that repeatedly show up in error, just draw it with the proportions in mind, until you get it right
-jedininja
ps, oh and a tip to getting more posts, is to post a lot in other peoples SB, and be sincere and they will most likey return the favor ;)
-jedininja

Morthrong Eterech

September 8th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Hi Morthrong. :)
Ranting is okay , sometimes.. Do you think you need critique very badly? I think you are at a point where you know what you need to do to get better, which is, basically, work hard and draw a lot of referenced anatomy studies/ still lifes, ect. And you are doing this (well, I'd like to see more still lifes from you, but I know you are practicing anatomy). The more you draw and understand anatomy the easier it will become for you to realise what you are doing wrong and how you can do it right.

So, my point is, there isn't that much critique anyone can give you right now. You already are working hard, drawing all the time, doing studies. I wish you were doing more studies.. but I know how hard it can be at times to concentrate on them. I beleive Rhineville once said something like, "Don't measure your progress in days.. measure it in months or even years..As long as you can look back on your work of several months ago, and say "i've improved", than you are fine." .. Well, something like that.. anyway, he was very correct. You are improving , and , if you continue to draw at this pace, you will continue improving.

Besides.. I've always thought sketchbooks were more for their creators than the others who look at them.. I think it matters more to fill up your sketchbook with drawings than to get tons of comments from people saying things like "You need to work on anatomy more", "Wow, thats awesome!", "I like your style.", ect..

Anyway.. :blahblah:
I've noticed that , on your profile pictures you are repeatedly ommiting the back of the skull from the head. I know that you have Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist.. even if you already have, read over pages 10-13... and study the skull diagrams and remember the names of the bones.. I think it will help you. Even if you've already read it, read it again , because it looks like you need it. ;)

Good luck. :teeth:

Thanks for putting me back on trail, man. I thought a long time over what you said, and I think you're right. I first always also got the feeling sketchbooks were more for the creator, (and I felt the critique-givers were more like visitors with handy tips, or something), but I heard Conceptart wasn't like Deviantart; people only saying 'Wow, you're good' or 'Scary..' or things like that, I heard they really gave much critique to improve. I was dissapointed at first, but I now know I overexpected (?) it a bit, and I also know you're right about that they can't give me any more critique, because most of the things that had to be said, is already said. I just now have to bring it into practice, and practice more. Thanks again, mate :) (I Could be still wrong about some things in this post, though) And about the skull-part, I indeed do it wrong a lot. The arty-farty people or faces I draw with charcoal, Siberian Crayon or pastels are mostly just straight out of hand, and not caring about anatomy -- however, I do it also on study-drawings, so.. you're right I should practice that more. I also saw that I had to practice hands. I can't draw hands properly yet. I'll also do more studies -- if I can find the time for it, of course, because we have lots of homework on school again. And, the best success wished to you, too!

Cheerio ;)

Aila

September 8th, 2007, 12:46 PM

I agree with FleetingShadow ^_^
Also! Don't say your drawings aren't interesting or inspiring, cos they are, or so I find. You have your own unique style also, which I find great.

Anyway, I myself can't give much crits on anatomy, as I am still learning myself :P But I was looking at that drawing of the dragon, and I like it! And it made me think of something I heard while watching some documentaries on the concept art of 'Eragon'.. more specifically, the dragon. There they avoided making the scales all one size, but varied it. Thought it was interesting, maybe try it out! ^_^

Success to you and your studies anyway. :)

Morthrong Eterech

September 9th, 2007, 01:32 PM

Thanks, Aila :)

Here's some stuff. Skulls are referenced, and the drawing of the naked woman is only reffed from head to breasts.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

September 13th, 2007, 09:47 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-5.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

September 15th, 2007, 10:24 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0024-5.jpg
Unreffed.

Morthrong Eterech

September 15th, 2007, 01:12 PM

A comment I received on this drawing on DA:

Hmm nice.
Just to point out something that seems to be there in all your drawings, you've got some major talent and you're good at making things look good.. but the proportions are pretty far off.
The girl in the middle has very short legs, and this makes her appear frumpy (which is something you seem to do a lot) it may be what you're going for though as it is a fantasy drawing. And the girl on the right seems good from the breasts up but something seems wrong with the rest of her torso. I think the stomach should stick out a bit more and cause more of a curve on (her) right side, and the rib placement is unrealistic. Of course since she is to be skinny her stomach might not stick out more, it should be smoother over there anyway, and the hips should stick out and be more prominant.Her elbow looks odd too but I think that's just because of the markings you've got in there which were probably just to help lay it out.
Hate to tear apart errors, I mean, this drawing has a lot of good points too, but mindless praise doesn't help anything.

He's right. My reply:

Thanks a lot for the critics, man, I can do a lot with them. You're right about pretty much everything, also. I'm still practicing anatomy, sometimes reffed, sometimes not, and see if I can improve by slowly taking away the references, and see if I can do without them. If not, I try again. I should study actually all bodyparts, maybe; I have trouble with legs, arms, hands, and indeed the torso - I always forget how it should and shouldn't be. Thanks again for the critique, I appreciate it, and I hope I can learn from it.

Here's more unreferenced/referenced work/stuff.

The female torso is again done.. Rubbishly. Crappily. Junkily. Garbagily.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0025-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0026-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

September 16th, 2007, 06:13 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0028-4.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0027-5.jpg

Wrongish stuff.

Morthrong Eterech

September 16th, 2007, 01:07 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0030-5.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

September 17th, 2007, 09:53 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0031-6.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

September 20th, 2007, 09:57 AM

All drawn from life.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0032-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0033-4.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0034-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0035-4.jpg

Edit: Err, I mean, parts of it. I don't have a female or goblin face, you know.

Morthrong Eterech

September 23rd, 2007, 06:01 AM

Some crappy stuff.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0037-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0036-4.jpg

Aila

September 23rd, 2007, 07:19 AM

Good on your for doing life studies, they look good! Eyes are fascinating I find.. try to see how you can change the emotion by drawing the eyes different shapes ^_^ Oh and try adding light reflex too :) keep it up!

Morthrong Eterech

September 27th, 2007, 09:47 AM

Yeah, I should do more eye-studies and such. I'm keeping up life studies also, indeed. :) The proportions of those drawings
aren't always proper (I mean, good..), but what did you expect. :p Thanks for commenting again. I think I'll be doing totally new stuff, walking on the unchartered terrain of various new life studies from either objects or people and environments I see, with a few new techniques, maybe, also. Anyways, I hope I can do something refreshing.

But first: pulp and fiction.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0039-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0040-2.jpg

Argh, I always draw eyes too big if I start the drawing with the eyes (See first sketch, wich indeed has eyes wich are too big). I guess I'll have to keep doing those so-called 'pre-lines' for the face, before drawing it, so everything fits and is in perfect proportion.
The zombiedrawing-thing sucks also, btw. Just so you know.
(The head is too long as always [Gaunt, not-normal looking], bad proportioned and what not.. mouth to far away from the nose.. Anyways, I just drew it for the feeling of the drawing, not the good proportions, as I mostly do with drawings at these)

I'm currently busy with an international challenge in the Netherlands, where I have to make drawings for, under the theme 'Secret'. So that might take a while.

Cheerio ;)
Morty, who else.

Morthrong Eterech

September 30th, 2007, 05:34 AM

Some stuff I did these few days. I'll get back on trail of pencil after this.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0041-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0042-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0043-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0044-3.jpg (Terrible, terrible..)

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0045-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0046-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0047-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0048-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0049-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0050-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0051-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0052-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0054-3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0053-2.jpg
(Heh, I said I was going to do some more refreshing, and totally-new-for-me artwork, but I pretty much screwed up)
(Btw, Haven't done homework in ages. Nooooo!)

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

September 30th, 2007, 01:16 PM

Today + Yesterday, referenced from myself + Imagination, and some stuff unreferenced (The travestite-like woman, for instance).

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0055-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0056-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0057-2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0058.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

October 4th, 2007, 01:00 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-7.jpg

Aila

October 6th, 2007, 01:34 PM

hi there, just thought I'd drop by again ^_^
are those last sketches from life? The purple pen guys at desks, I mean. Good idea, keep that up :) I think you tend to exaggerate a little on muscles etc - which is fine for fantasy based characters (esp. heroes) but try to tone it down a little for 'normal' people ^^ But the last ones are looking better on that aspect.

Also, love this drawing ^^ http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0054-3.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

October 7th, 2007, 06:11 AM

Thanks Aila, and yes, those pen drawings are drawn from life. I always get bored in my class, so..
Anyways, I'll try not to exaggerate on muscles anymore.. Btw, drawing from life really helps ^^

Here's a vid I quickly made with a few good (and bad, anatomic'ly incorrect) drawings from now and long ago.
If an image says 'Photobucket', then the link to the image didn't work, or sort.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/th_e5b41f0f.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/?action=view&current=e5b41f0f.pbr)

Morthrong Eterech

October 7th, 2007, 01:22 PM

Not my favourite stuff. Did them today.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-7.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

October 10th, 2007, 03:05 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-6.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

October 14th, 2007, 12:59 PM

The first one is actually as bad drawn as I drew in the past. All went wrong.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-6.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

October 16th, 2007, 04:56 AM

More stuff will be coming. However, I'm in a really hard drawing time these days, lots of stuff on my mind.

Morthrong Eterech

October 19th, 2007, 10:00 AM

Argh, couldn't find my thread back for a few days, and 'search' didn't help either. Oh well.

Stuff. Kinda bad anatomy, still.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-7.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

ajvenema

October 19th, 2007, 10:35 AM

Yo fellow dutchie:)
Good to see ur seriously into drawing at this age already! keep up the life studies, they look lively and good proportions and stuff. in a while u will probably notice ur gonna make better imagination drawings as well! if u go on with this, ull be a great artist in a few years...

Morthrong Eterech

October 21st, 2007, 12:45 PM

Thanks a lot, mate :)

However, I'm totally 'uninspirated' these days, so I hope to be back on track soon.

Jason Rainville

October 21st, 2007, 07:54 PM

Remember to take your time and measure with your eyes morty :D

Here's some help on proportions, cheers!

jedininjaman

October 21st, 2007, 09:32 PM

hey man great work here your diligence is admirable keep it up
some things to keep on eye on,
-line quality, make sure that your lines are solid and less sketchy, it is ok to have sketchy lines at the beginning but just make sure you clean it up a bit by the time you are done
-shading, make sure when you shade that you arent just shading to shade make sure that your shading adds to the form and shape of the object dont just shade to shade, and also dont just scratch in the darks with lines , rather block in the form with a thick part of the lead so that it is all unified, also so the texture isnt wack

but ya nice work keep it up and ill see you around
-jedininja

Morthrong Eterech

October 22nd, 2007, 10:41 AM

Thanks for the tips and stuff guys, I hope I can do something with it, especially the anatomy and shading. Hope I have enough inspiration, soon.

Morthrong Eterech

October 24th, 2007, 09:07 AM

I'll redraw the guy above soon. Heres what I did during class. I was bored.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0016-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

October 28th, 2007, 05:15 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0018-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0019-5.jpg

RandAlThor

October 28th, 2007, 05:29 AM

Hey Mort, Definate progress made since the first page, keep working on that anatomy and you'll 'feel' your drawings change also. Keep up the effort dude ;-)

Morthrong Eterech

October 28th, 2007, 02:28 PM

@RandAlThor: Thanks, mate, I'll do that :)

First one is referenced, the other stuff is just crappy crapness.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-6.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-7.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Aila

October 30th, 2007, 01:48 PM

the peeps have said so in the ES thread already - that referenced one is very good! Keep doing studies from reference alongside imagination and you'll develop the feel for it. :)

And now I shall go and follow my own advice hehe :blahblah:

Morthrong Eterech

November 2nd, 2007, 02:27 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-8.jpg

Reffed. The scanner screwed it up.

Morthrong Eterech

November 4th, 2007, 06:45 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-7.jpg

Argh, crapness.

Fraz

November 4th, 2007, 07:27 AM

All of your reffed stuff looks great, but when you don't go by references, you seem to screw up. This suggests that you need to work on the anatomy, especially of the face, and skull. Keep drawing skulls and faces reffed, and soon enough, your non-reffed ones should look just as good!

Morthrong Eterech

November 5th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Yeah, you're right.. I indeed need to stay practice the anatomy, but it's tiring me so, so much.. I feel like I can sleep a hundred days, non stop.

And my homework is rotting somewhere in a corner..

Jason Rainville

November 5th, 2007, 03:50 PM

To add to what Fraz said, I think that there's a lot of care and patience that shows through in a lot of your reffed stuff, but not so much in you imagination stuff. The only thing I can say is take your time, always evaluate how it looks and why it might look weird.

Always remember to use construction to aid you. Using cylinders, boxes and spheres will help you feel the form of an object. If you have a chance, look at loomis' figure book and really get into the whole "mannequin" part, about how to start construction with the ribcage, pelvis and skull and how the limbs relate to them.

Keep going :)

Morthrong Eterech

November 11th, 2007, 01:18 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-7.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

November 12th, 2007, 01:36 PM

It still seems I don't take enough time, and don't measure with my eyes enough. I hope I can do loads of referenced work soon.

Morthrong Eterech

November 13th, 2007, 01:27 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-7.jpg

Very quickly referenced sketch, more will be coming..

Morthrong Eterech

November 14th, 2007, 07:11 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-7.jpg
Referenced.. not finished.

Morthrong Eterech

November 16th, 2007, 09:14 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-9.jpg
Also reffed.

Morthrong Eterech

November 19th, 2007, 11:21 AM

I've done a referenced drawing, with a drawing from Rhineville's sketchbook as reference. I used the beginning form of the body to create a 'living' body, or however you wanna call it.

(The naked lady)
http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1035758&postcount=7

Here's the quickly drawn result - not finished yet and also not that good. Oh well.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-8.jpg

Edit: Damn it, if you wonder what all those hairs do on the drawing everytime, those are my dog's hairs.. He likes to leave them everywhere, even on my scanner. Grrr.

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

November 24th, 2007, 08:22 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-9.jpg

Unreferenced, unfinished, uncool.

Morthrong Eterech

November 24th, 2007, 12:24 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0016-8.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-7.jpg

Both unreferenced.

FleetingShadow

November 24th, 2007, 03:34 PM

You're doing well Morthrong, and, as I've said before, your workload is impressive. Don't slow down! :} Even when you're doing quick sketches, try not to disregard all that you've learned about anatomy, and heads/skulls, because I've seen the kind of stuff you can pump out when you try hard enough.
Also, quit degrading your work. I've seen worse, like for example, today's batch here in my study, heh. Try not to get frusterated, you'll get there.

Here's a quote from Magic Man that I particularly like, its floating around on this site somewhere..

29. Compacency and apathy are the killers of ability, being lazy should never be part of any person's vocabulary, nothing is ever gained without great sacrifice, and anything gained without great sacrifice is probably not worth sacrificing for. Learn how to push yourself to the edge of madness, to the boundaries of perfection, learn to bleed for your art or anything else you feel strongly about. We only have one life to live, learn to live it passionately.

I'm not calling you lazy, by the way. :^^: It just seemed relevant.

Morthrong Eterech

November 25th, 2007, 05:47 AM

I highly appreciate your comment, FleetingShadow :) Also thanks for that quote from Magic Man, those were the magic words I needed ^^

Anyways, Photobucket's trying to send federal agents to my house because of my violation of their terms of service (Nudity stuff and such).
Terms of service my ass! And by federal agents I meant that they try to put a cross on every drawing I post there.
I will win, I know it.

---

Yes, I'm in puberty. Why do you ask?

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0019-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Grizzliman

November 25th, 2007, 06:11 AM

Mooie schetsen en coole poses.
PS: Ik ben van belgië en heb eigenlijk een vraag waar haal jij je anatomie boeken vandaan? ik heb heel de leuvense bib doorzocht en ik vond niks.
Voor de rest mooie evolutie ga zo door! ik kom nog langs...
Cheers Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

November 25th, 2007, 01:51 PM

Bedankt ^^ Ik heb m'n anatomieboeken hier gewoon uit de winkel (De Slegte, Van de Velde). Misschien komt het omdat we ver van elkaar af wonen dat er bij jou minder of niets te vinden is.. (Ik woon in Friesland, haal de boeken uit Groningen)
Maar ja, als je wilt kun je altijd nog op internet kijken.. Er zijn een aantal zeer goede schrijvers van anatomieboeken die je verder kunnen helpen (De namen ontschieten mij nu even, maar je kunt altijd naar ze vragen hier op het forum).

Veel succes en nogmaals bedankt :)

---

Anyways, got some new stuff for y'all. It seems I now only work in weekends, since I have to do a lot for school, and I cannot fail this year, or I'll die a terrible death. And that's not a nice way to die, so..

1: First one is the second and last update on what first just began as a small and quick sketch (Which it still is, but less small and less quick :p). It's the ogre Kirgol who I made up, holding the hand of his daughter Tensa. He cries out for revenge, since the alfs threw her into the hottest place of the universe, the fiery world of the Eldalves.
Unreferenced.
2: A drawing of a scene that popped out of my mind. Anyone can interpret in their own way, but I thought it was a mother who comitted abortion and suicide in the same time. It could also be that she had done abortion already, but the blood and the weapon in her hand tells she feels terrible guilty. So, is this physical or mental pain? I believe both, but the mental pain has the upper hand. Her face is a bit too big and distorted, but oh well.
Unreferenced.
3: Sketch of a naked hooker in a bar (No full background). The party she wanted to organize turned out to be nothing. I don't really like the sketch, especially the face, but the shading of the body is alright, I guess.
Unreferenced.
4: This sketch has been posted here before, but this is the second and (I think) last update. It's a smokin' lady with an undescribable look in her eyes. Referenced. Note that every drawing I use with reference, I always try to make it a drawing of my own by making the hair and eyes and shading into my own style.
Btw, it seems lots of ladies in sketches of mine smoke. I think that is totally unattractive in a woman, that she smokes, but I am into the world of America's old B-movies which inspire me. Movies in which people smoke, drink, use drugs, and where there is a lot of sex and violence. Is that inspiration? For me, it is. Films with these main words like Sin City, Planet Terror, Death Proof (The Grindhouse), Pulp Fiction, Lock, Stock and two Smokin' Barrels, Hannibal, The French Connection and Reservoir Dogs inspire me a lot. Action films, thrillers, horror (Though the latter isn't my favourite, unless zombies are the main theme, which I am fan of) etcetera, with still a mysterious undertone or humour and something to tell are the main source of inspiration for me. Then comes music, nothern mythologies and other things just from life.
Enough said. Let's show today's stuff. :)

1:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-8.jpg

2:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-8.jpg
3:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0024-6.jpg
4:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-7.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Emerald_Mara85

November 25th, 2007, 04:10 PM

Morthrong Eterech

November 26th, 2007, 06:45 AM

uhhh...
What's your reason for putting the dimensions BG under the lady?

Was the refrence already like that? If so...that's a weird layout...like there's 2 pics instead of one picture...

And I also think...that she needs more flesh on her arms and lower legs.

Yeah, it may look a little odd, but It's still a sketch, and sometimes I just like to put something next or under the character. In this case, dimensions is the title of a story I've written, and I called the lady the same name from a character from that story, because she looked just like I imagined her.

You might be right that she needs more flesh, but maybe it's just the shading that makes it look like she has skinny arms, or the thigh covering part of the leg that makes it look like she has skinny legs?

Here's the reference. Censored and linked, since it's from an artistic nude site, and I'm not entirely sure if I can post that with a direct image. So, be aware that it contains (censored) nudity.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/070604-JENYA-VORONIN-149-53633.jpg

---
Here's some unreferenced sketches. The above one has a too long arm. It's me, walking through the rain with my dog (Not visible on this image).
Second one is a male body I designed with some help of Rhineville's little paintover (Top o/t page). Still, I didn't do it very well.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0025-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0026-7.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Emerald_Mara85

November 26th, 2007, 08:44 AM

Yeah, it may look a little odd, but It's still a sketch, and sometimes I just like to put something next or under the character. In this case, dimensions is the title of a story I've written, and I called the lady the same name from a character from that story, because she looked just like I imagined her.

You might be right that she needs more flesh, but maybe it's just the shading that makes it look like she has skinny arms, or the thigh covering part of the leg that makes it look like she has skinny legs?

Here's the reference. Censored and linked, since it's from an artistic nude site, and I'm not entirely sure if I can post that with a direct image. So, be aware that it contains (censored) nudity.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/070604-JENYA-VORONIN-149-53633.jpg

---
Here's some unreferenced sketches. The above one has a too long arm. It's me, walking through the rain with my dog (Not visible on this image).
Second one is a male body I designed with some help of Rhineville's little paintover (Top o/t page). Still, I didn't do it very well.

Hmm, I see...

Okay based on your reference, you're not exactly seeing how her flesh goes (even in line form, not just the shading), its not exactly a stick. The flesh has got curves (Its not just the boobies and the butt that got 'em).

For the next 2 ones,

You say its mostly because of being unrefrenced,
Why torture yourself so?
Even if its based on imagination, you can still refer to some pictures to learn how to draw anatomy correctly and body position and then you won't feel so frustated with the end result. Eventually the day will come when you don't need so much reference will come, so hang in there!

Well, that's my 2 cents worth! Keep drawing!

Grizzliman

November 26th, 2007, 12:24 PM

OK bedankt ik zoek wel nog verder....
Die voorlaatste schets vind ik wel mooi maar zoals Emerald al zei: die vlees massa's lopen wat raar maar als je het niet erg vind from now on i typ english.

Post Post Post.......
Cheers Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

November 26th, 2007, 01:22 PM

Yeah, you're right about the flesh and the references, I see now, Emerald. I'll try to watch at the curves more closely before I draw. Note that it was just a rough sketch, and maybe that's the point. I'm still not taking enough time for the sketches, even if they are what they are - just sketches.
And yeah, I'll try not to just draw, but learn some stuff from references while I do that, so I can slowly try and get the hang of it. Thanks for your comments :)

@Grizzliman: If you enter a bookstore next time you're shopping in town, just look around more and I think you might find what you're looking for. I just can't understand that they don't have a good art-section. If they don't, search at the 'hobbies' section, there may be some anatomy or drawing books there, too.
Veel geluk ^^

---
A drawing I did today, yay.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0027-6.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

November 28th, 2007, 10:44 AM

More landscapes coming soon. First school and writing to do. School and homework are hard, and so is the temptation to ignore it.

Grizzliman

November 28th, 2007, 02:48 PM

That last one very nice, its just an idea but it could be quiet cool if you put some fire balls coming out of the air would give a cool look.
I dont say that you're drawing is bad bud its just an idea....
Nice anatomy studies loved the one you used from Rhineland.

Cheers Grizz :)

Morthrong Eterech

November 29th, 2007, 10:16 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0028-5.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-7.jpg

Quick sketches. Not happy with 'em. The one before this one was better.

Aila

December 2nd, 2007, 08:30 AM

ah, tis long since I have taken a walk into the depths of this sketchbook.

:D

Liking your landscapes, though I was wondering if there should be some more definition on the outsides of the buildings (their linework) to make them stand out a little more from the background (noticed that in your last post).
Keep going with the anatomy studies. Tis a long and stony path, I know! But you can only get better because its a one-way path :P

P.S. I am also one to ignore homework, in fact, I am doing so right now ^^

Morthrong Eterech

December 3rd, 2007, 11:26 AM

@Aila: Thanks for the comment :) Tip noted.

Unreferenced but stupid:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-9.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-10.jpg

Don't mind the anatomy on the last one, since I wasn't very serious when I drew it.

Cheerio ;)

Grizzliman

December 3rd, 2007, 02:10 PM

The other one before those girls..
Its lovely! The top body is good bud those right knee looks a little weird.

Ciao Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

December 4th, 2007, 01:54 PM

Thanks :) The anatomy may indeed be odd, but maybe that's because I drew it so quickly and without measuring anything.

Drawing with a pen goes so much easier, I have understood. It looks like I get the hang of parts of anatomy faster if I use a pen. How could that be?
Today, I have totally exhausted myself with drawing. I was sick, so..

All unreferenced, except for the last one. Could've done the least one better, since my pencil was working incorrectly at the time.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-9.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-9.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

December 5th, 2007, 10:22 AM

Ignore the stupidness. Unreffed.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-8.jpg

Grizzliman

December 7th, 2007, 11:38 AM

Favila

December 7th, 2007, 12:07 PM

My advice would be, above all keep drawing, you are on the right track. You should try to improve your line quality, dont put redundant lines that do not say anything different to other lines. Each stroke should add something. Also, try to draw longer lines. Think like this: if I want a line that connects this two points, it should be just one stroke.

Morthrong Eterech

December 8th, 2007, 07:51 AM

The woman before you're last post is lovely!
The anatomy fits perfect, love the face really great job keep going like that!

Clapping hands
Grizz

PS: wat is eigenlijk een pen in het nederlands ik weet nooit het verschil tussen pen of pencil?

Thanks :)

PS: Pen is pen, pencil is potlood.

@Favila: Thanks for the comment :) I think you're right about the lines, I always said that to myself also. If I draw 'fluently', in longer lines, the drawing looks more professional.

---

:oneye:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-8.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-8.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-8.jpg

Anatomy on the last one is ridiculous, but I was mainly going for the shading..

Morthrong Eterech

December 9th, 2007, 08:29 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-9.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

December 15th, 2007, 01:47 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-9.jpg

Something.

Morthrong Eterech

December 17th, 2007, 11:35 AM

Damn, I really have to do referenced stuff again, this is just rubbish. Please don't throw stones at me..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0019-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0018-8.jpg

Heads are always to big in my drawings.. Why?! :(
And rest of the anatomy is idiotic, to. *Shivers*

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

jedininjaman

December 17th, 2007, 11:40 AM

just keep pushing it , and it will come, just keep up the dedication
stop by sometime and ill see you around

Christian223

December 17th, 2007, 11:54 AM

Hey its great to see your dedication, keep at it and in a few years you will be a master.

Have you heards of Andrew Loomis?, he has written a few books, they are really good, and best of all you cand find them on the internets for free, heres a link to it where you can see the proportions, dedicate some time to measure the proportions well so that your heads dont come out so big, heres the link http://fineart.sk/index.php?show=n&s=8&cat=12 Keep it up!!!! :asspat:

Morthrong Eterech

December 18th, 2007, 09:44 AM

Ah yes, got those pages once, but they fell into the dark depths of oblivion, and I could not get them back. Which means, thanks a lot :)
As soon as I have the time, I will restudy Andrew Loomis(And not sure if the fellow Dutchling is around too, but besides Bridgeman, I also meant Andrew Loomis to be a very good one to get books from about anatomy).

---
Have nothin' done, only a stupid copy of my hand. I put the copy under the scanner, so that's why it looks so crappy. On the other hand, it doesn't look too crappy, but I just had to show it off.
The left hand is mine, the right one is that of a friend. Drew with pen all the lines on my hand. Took a copy, because I had to wash it off at school.
I also took a negative with some darkening adjustments.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-9.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-9.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Grizzliman

December 19th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Love you're technique but how did you put those lines in white?
Sorry i just got Photoshop CS2 and i don't know a shit of it.
But anyway great lines, like you're idea of that woman with wings.

Keep it up like that!
Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

December 21st, 2007, 08:10 AM

Heh, thanks :) The white lines have nothing to do with Photoshop, which I don't have. I have some options on my scanner, and from that I can make negatives of the drawing and adjust them a bit. You can also do this with a scanned drawing on Paint, though.

Morthrong Eterech

December 22nd, 2007, 12:25 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-9.jpg

Quick unreferenced sketchy.

Morthrong Eterech

December 23rd, 2007, 12:53 PM

Meet the Christmas-elf. Scanner screwed it up.. I did, too.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0024-7.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

December 24th, 2007, 12:27 PM

1 Unreferenced. AWFUL BAD ANATOMY. Beware, beware. Oh noes, it's pure filth and pulp, the spit of the devilhounds on paper.

2 Bad face anatomy. It's unreferenced, but I also almost didn't look at the paper as I drew it. With my pencil, I touched my face and measured distances, then put it on paper. I went on like that, untill a wicked drawing came up. Could've done MUCH better if I didn't use that new technique I just came up with.

3 I don't like it either. I like women, but every man needs to put his sick mind down on paper some times. Feminism rules.

4 Oh well, what can I say. Unreferenced.

5Where shall I start? Just cover your eyes, after the stinging pain of disgusting drawings reached them, and after you wondered what smelled so bad. Yep, it's the anatomy. Everything in this drawing is wrong and twisted in the wrong way, manipulated and distorted. Into the fire with this crap!

6 Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong anatomy. Practice, fool, practice for real.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0025-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0026-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0028-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0029-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0027-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0030-6.jpg

Merry Christmas ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

December 25th, 2007, 11:10 AM

Dang it! After a furious battle with Photobucket, I have lost the game: my account has been banned from it. (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/?start=0) I have censored my nudity/said that it did not harm, but they had other opinions and said I just had to follow their laws. Oh well, I'll just create a new account then. I'm afraid though, that all the links of my Photobucket-pictures will soon screw up, too, now they have been deleted from the source. Hope that won't be happening, or I'll have to start all over again, and I have been doing these drawings now since November '06, and it's now December '07. There you go, a whole year of drawings gone.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0031-7.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0032-5.jpg
Both referenced. Hope it ain't to pornoish.
Anyways, didn't reference the wings in drawing 1.

I hope the gods can forgive me my sins against Photobucket..
Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Aila

December 26th, 2007, 08:12 AM

heh, shame Photobucket is acting up. Well, the anatomy of those last women is looking better.
And the technique with the pencil, measuring the distances with it.. I read that in a book also. However, I never wanted to try it myself.. I believe it is better to develop the sight, the eye for the proportions and distances.. even if it takes longer :)

Morthrong Eterech

December 26th, 2007, 08:55 AM

Heh? You read it in a book? But I thought I made it up myself :S

Heh, I indeed hope to get that 'magical sight' too, because I have bad eyes. I Can't even read a 'DANGER HIGH VOLTAGE' sign in two metres!

Anyways, thanks! :drinkup:

Morthrong Eterech

December 27th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Line quality, skulls, shading, all things I still need to work on. Anyways, I'm currently doing a lot of referenced work, as you can see. After this, I'll try to do referenced skulls, and parts of the body. It's sad that I don't have time for nicer sketches of film-noir drawings or ancient battle drawings, which I like to do, it's mostly anatomy. Need to fully control that, then I can focus on other things. I'm joining a national contest in the Netherlands for art, which will be partially on national TV. In January, February, March I will have to do a lot of pre-artwork for that. Sadly though, homework will then be eating me also. Lots of it.
Also, I want to follow a course in drawing besides school, so I can really make my anatomy better. However, not sure if there's any good drawing courses in the neighbourhood that suit me.

I've been spending last few days on the following sketch. It's still not finished, this is only update one.
And by the way, Photobucket will most likely destroy all my drawings because it has lots of traces of nudity in it, that means this sketchbook will die too. I really, really hate this, after all the work I put into this. Has anyone got suggestions? Think I should join Imageshack or something, the place I always feared?

Reference:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/071117-JULIA-KIRA-ALAN-ANAR-151-608.jpg

My Sketch, first update (Note that the sketch is not meant to be realistic, but has to become more art-nouveau-ish)

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0033-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty, Photobucket-slayer.

Morthrong Eterech

December 28th, 2007, 01:29 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0034-6.jpg

Final update. Don't like the wings, and the right leg of the right woman is wrong.

Grizzliman

December 29th, 2007, 06:40 AM

Great improve in you're anatomy that the best I seen till now in you're sketchbook, yeah like you said the right leg is a little weird.
Keep going in to that direction, you're doing great.

Happy NewYear
Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

December 31st, 2007, 06:47 AM

@Grizzliman: Thanks a lot :)

I have done some new stuff, but I don't like it. All is reffed..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0038-6.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0036-5.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0037-7.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0035-5.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Grizzliman

January 1st, 2008, 02:50 PM

1:Weird pose but the anatomy seems good to me except that foot is a little strange.
2:Cool poses those are good :)
3:Yeah like you marked those hands are a little bad, but those boobs to if you look at it in conclusion with you're next one..
4:That one is awesome, the boobs, the face, really great!

Cheers
Grizz :D

Morthrong Eterech

January 2nd, 2008, 07:11 AM

Thanks for the comments again, Grizzliman, I really appreciate it! You're right about the foot in sketch one, about the hands in the third one, and indeed, in the latter the boobs are bad.
Thanks again :)

Another quick thing. Referenced..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-10.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

January 2nd, 2008, 01:19 PM

Didn't notice I was on the sixth page already. Happy new year by the way.

First two are referenced, last two are unreferenced (They are really crappy, as you can see..).
In the first one, I screwed up with the ribcage, so, I did it all over again. Yep, I'm not a givver-upper. I shall never WithDraw!

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-9.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

January 3rd, 2008, 12:31 PM

Didn't post any chit-chat around the sketches anymore, it's so distracting ^^
Anyways, I'm going further into ribcages and flesh and what not. Must find out how it works.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-7.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

January 4th, 2008, 12:45 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-9.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

January 5th, 2008, 08:11 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-9.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-9.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-9.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

January 5th, 2008, 12:28 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-9.jpg

Stupid sketch. It isn't me, but still it is. Who is it?

Grizzliman

January 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Great anatomy studies, you should work some on you're hands to you know.

Srry for my bad crits :x
Grizz

Morthrong Eterech

January 10th, 2008, 12:57 PM

You're right though. Hand and feet are my greatest concern if it's about anatomy. However, I'm kinda saddened about my anatomy these days without reference, because it looks childishly bad. I mean, really bad.

Reffed:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-11.jpg

And a phenomenal example of a very bad anatomy sketchy of 3 min. http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0013-11.jpg
It shows all I cannot draw after a year. Practically everything.

Morthrong Eterech

January 15th, 2008, 08:42 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0014-9.jpg

Samantha

January 15th, 2008, 08:46 AM

i guess u are doctor.. haha

Morthrong Eterech

January 16th, 2008, 10:13 AM

i guess u are doctor.. haha

Uhh? :dur:

---

Anyways, I can't go on like this. Soon, 50% of my drawings will dissapear, because Photobucket has opened fire on all of them. This means this work will all vanish.. More than one year of hard work, gone. :wtf:

What shall I do? Anyone have suggestions? What do you use to post your drawings, and what's the best way? Because I won't upload anything before I find a better solution.. Oh well..

Except for this stuff. Second one is reffed, last one has horrible anatomy mistakes.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0015-11.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0017-11.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0016-10.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Utum

January 16th, 2008, 01:13 PM

Morthrong Eterech

January 19th, 2008, 07:30 AM

I browsed your SB from beginning to end. You have evolved a lot. Your studies are helping you lots, just keep up posting. The colored lady has some anatomy issues, the face looks great, but there is something strange with the torso, the rest looks great too.

Thanks a lot for your comment. :) And you're right -- I did some things wrong on that drawing, which I couldn't really adjust.

---

I haven't been doing much lately (In 2007 I almost posted daily a lot of sketches), and I won't be doing much either. I need to work more on school than on myself and my drawings. It's as simple as that.
Anyways, I still hope to make those referenced things soon, and then more referenced anatomy-things.

In the mean time concerning my art-life I have to think about the Kunstbende also: an international contest and community of artists who battle in the Netherlands with all kinds of art. I'm in the expo-section, so I will expose and exhibit my drawings. The theme is 'Secret', so I'll have to do something with that. Something mysterious. The Kunstbende (Artgang, literally translated. Kinda lame) is also good for getting more known inside the Netherlands, so some art-schools will already recognize me - there are some schools that I like connected to the contest, and they look carefully for new talents. I've been practicing since november '06 to get in those art-schools, so this would be very important for me. Don't know how to combine it with homework, though -- it needs a lot of work itself.
In the other mean time I'm busy searching for a course in drawing, mostly having a model as reference. I need this to become better in anatomy, because now all I do is still not what satisfies me. Haven't found much, though - the things for children where to childish, and the things for adults were too adultish. I could still do the adult-course, but I feel uncomfortable with it.

So, these are the reasons of my absence.

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

January 21st, 2008, 10:38 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0018-10.jpg

Need to find a better uploader, my images are still dissapearing and so is my Sketchbook dying.

Morthrong Eterech

January 26th, 2008, 12:05 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0020-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0019-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-10.jpg

All unreffed.

Morthrong Eterech

January 28th, 2008, 11:05 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0022-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0023-9.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0024-8.jpg

All unreffed. Pre-sketches for the national contest I'm joining.
Cheerio ;)

Jason Rainville

January 31st, 2008, 07:18 PM

Hey Morty :)

Nice anatomical studies. The last guy you posted shows a step up from what you've normally been doing. He's got better proportion and there's some real FORM to him. I also really like this one:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0021-10.jpg

The overall silouette the guy presents is awesome. Keep on going and remember to have fun and play every so often.

The Fez

January 31st, 2008, 07:25 PM

Keep hitting that anatomy. Study from life, and you'll be on the right track. It would be good to see you do some more in depth studies of different body parts, for example, eyes, hands, feet ect. Sort of along the lines of the skeletal drawings you did at the top of the page.

Morthrong Eterech

February 7th, 2008, 11:40 AM

Thanks, both of you! I will be doing that, but I'm afraid I can't post anything in this month/these months, since I'm working on both school and the Kunstbende-contest.

Morthrong Eterech

February 11th, 2008, 05:29 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-11.jpg

Unreffed..

Morthrong Eterech

March 21st, 2008, 02:02 PM

One month further and still too busy. Anyways, I've been drawing only a few things - I used to do like three drawings a day, but those days are over now. What about three a month? Ah, man..

And Photobucket still blocks my other drawings, so new people can't give those critics. Damned.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-13.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-12.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-8.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-10.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

March 23rd, 2008, 09:47 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0009-10.jpg

I'll get back to anatomy soon, this was just some stuff to get back into drawing again. My mountainlandscape-drawings all look a bit the same, have you noticed? I reckon it's because they're all mountainlandscapes.

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

March 29th, 2008, 02:41 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-10.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0012-12.jpg

Aila

March 30th, 2008, 11:55 AM

Ohai, work I have not yet seen! *gasp* Hm one thing just came to mind, when you draw a picture like the last one there, do you first draw a sketch of the whole body, then go into detail, or draw the head completely and add the body? It's easier to do rough sketching of the whole picture first to get the proportions nailed.
Anyway.. the purple female sketch is looking good however.! Keep it up, even if school work is demanding ;)

Morthrong Eterech

March 30th, 2008, 01:35 PM

@Aila: I somehow always tend to forget to first draw a rough sketch of the whole body, but yeah, sometimes I do that. Not in these drawings though, and so the result is.. awful-ish. Anyways, thanks for the Critique! :D

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

April 11th, 2008, 12:21 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-13.jpg

Jason Rainville

April 11th, 2008, 10:18 PM

Keep going man. Remember to measure with the ol' eyeballs and keep the good work flowing. Tip- try some gestures with the side of your pencil. Try to keep them quick at first.

Morthrong Eterech

April 16th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the tips again, Rhine! (Or Rain, whatever you want :p)

--
Anyways, I need to do more skeleton stuff, more better anatomy stuff, more moving bodies, more anatomy with shading added -- at least I know now I need to do more. Need to, but can't. Not in these months.
Guess I'll get back to work again in the vacations or such. Even in weekends I am too busy now -- I really want to draw, but I find no time.

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Aila

April 17th, 2008, 04:21 PM

That's too bad :(

ooo Photobucket ate your last drawing, so it can't be viewed any longer.. I suggest using CA's image uploader so your pictures won't vanish! ^^

Grizzliman

April 21st, 2008, 01:11 PM

Like your second girl in post 173

Thats the good direction keep it up like that.

Morthrong Eterech

April 29th, 2008, 05:32 PM

@Aila: CA Image Uploader? For some reason I never heard of that, or I just couldn't find it [Or a lack of interest, as always.. :().. Do you mean the attachments, or such, which I never dared to use? I can't use them anyways, because my pictures are to big, and making them smaller goes beyond my intelligence. I'll just try and post it again..

@Grizzliman: Thanks, man! I'll try.

New one. Unreffed.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-11.jpg

Old one. Unreffed.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-14.jpg

Cheerio ;)
Morty.

Morthrong Eterech

April 30th, 2008, 01:20 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-9.jpg

Referenced.

Aila

April 30th, 2008, 03:51 PM

Ai, I meant the attachment manager. Hm, how can your images be too big? :S they don't look like they should exceed the maximum size.. .jpgs have around 537kB.

hm, photobucket ate the two up there again :( but that last one is looking very good! hands and face especially ! :cheerleader:

Morthrong Eterech

May 1st, 2008, 09:40 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-15.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-12.jpg

Two eaten drawings, again.

Anyways, the Attachment Manager says, if I want to upload a drawing: Your file of 1.12 MB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 537.1 KB for this filetype.
Don't know how to make the thing smaller. What I do know is that I can upload attachments by using an URL, like Photobuckets', but not directly from my PC. Strange..

And thanks Aila, about the comment on my last drawing! ^^

Aila

May 3rd, 2008, 03:46 PM

Last woman looks like she's doing ballet with her legs :D
Look out for "unnatural" poses, unless they're intended of course, maybe your lady does have a good turnout :P

Question, does Photobucket automatically resize images, i.e. make them smaller, when you upload them?

How big are the images really, when you scan them in? (Width and height).
For example, I scan at 600dpi and that makes images of over 1000 pixels in length etc, and the size will be over a MB aswell.
I resize to 800x600 or something similar, using an image editor, this gets the size down to less than 500kB, so it can be uploaded here :)

So if your scanner makes big pictures, try resizing; if they are small but with humoungous file size, then that's weird ö.Ö :S :P

Morthrong Eterech

May 10th, 2008, 09:08 AM

@Aila: That's a difficult question, containing a lot of numbers. I'll have to think about it a few days and then I can give an answer. xD

New stuff, unreferenced.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0001-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-12.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-14.jpg

Cheerio ;)

Morthrong Eterech

May 27th, 2008, 02:16 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-10.jpg

lord_regenschirm

June 22nd, 2008, 05:04 AM

Your shading technique isn't bad but you have to watch your anatomy; you seem to take male references for female characters which should be avoided ;)

Morthrong Eterech

June 22nd, 2008, 10:23 AM

Thanks a lot :P Don't really know how to avoid it, though..

El Stormo

June 22nd, 2008, 10:48 AM

Hey there Morthrong!

Judging from the beginning of your sketchbook compared to your later works, you're improving very visibly, but like the others have said, your anatomy and proportions still need some work. Some more careful planning might help, although it can be argued it ruins the spontaneity of your pictures. I see you're doing a lot of studies, so I'm pretty sure we'll see you improving more and more over the course of time!

Wel spijtig van de Russen gisteren he ;)

Morthrong Eterech

June 25th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Wow, El Stormo in my Sketchbook, quite an honour. :P
Anyways, yeah, I think I need to do more anatomy studies, and lots of them.

It shows off pretty nicely that I have trouble with almost every aspect in anatomy. I haven't done much of those good old studies in a while (6 months now and I haven't been drawing much), mostly just referenced stuff or things drawn without using the usual 'skeleton of lines' to build up a body with good proportions. So I should go do that again. Thanks for the critique, I appreciate it. ^^
En ja, spijtig van die nederlaag tegen de Russen.. :(

Referenced, obviously:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-15.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

July 20th, 2008, 08:15 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-16.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-14.jpg

Nonsense, unreferenced. I hate the odd tower thing, it's almost childish.

Morthrong Eterech

July 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM

http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/12/39/08/52/scanne11.jpg

Morthrong Eterech

December 21st, 2008, 08:18 AM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0005-14.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0004-16.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0006-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0003-17.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0011-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0010-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0008-11.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0007-12.jpg

writingtool

January 1st, 2009, 08:08 AM

Waowaowiewaa! Sketches 're doing good. I like the shading. As for the woman-male problem I can only suggest to draw a few pages of just male/female outlines. The faces are doing pretty good though. Once you got a few outlines of which you're keen on, keep them as an example. Would be a good thing for meh too, since I intend to draw to many male figures.

-Jochem

Morthrong Eterech

January 2nd, 2009, 07:06 AM

Thanks for commenting ^^ I'll try to take your advice and actually do something with it.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-16.jpg

El Stormo

January 2nd, 2009, 07:35 AM

Thanks for commenting ^^ I'll try to take your advice and actually do something with it.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/Morthrong/Scannen0002-16.jpg
Everything looks good, but the eyes are a disturbing factor to the image. Because not only are they each looking in different directions, but your pupil and irs size is not the same. Usually people only get that effect when they're on drugs, and even then, only the pupils will have dilated to a different size - the iris is always the same.

What can help is drawing the entire eyeball first, and then adding the eyelids and the rest of the framing. By drawing the actual eyeballs, you'll be 100% sure the irises are where you want them to be - if you need to add them to an already-drawn eye, you'll have a skewed effect because eyelids cover the eyeballs differently depending on the angle.

The rest looks very natural though :)