View Full Version : VOTING!! Teen Challenge #23
inkerton
January 20th, 2007, 07:44 AM
The topic was "Book Scene", and the medium was limited to pencil/ink. Vote for your favorite!
invinciblewombat:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/invinciblewombat/dune.jpg
-fremen break through the shield wall in Frank Herbert's Dune
cardoso:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/cardoso6/hunter.jpg
-from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Mehz:
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6618/tc23cp1.jpg
-from Carroll's Alice in Wonderland
Bendragon:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/naftnaft/HisDarkMaterialsAmberSypglass.jpg
-from His Dark Materials: The Amber Spyglass
Njord-E55:
http://iup.in/img/solbero/Raven2.jpg
-from Poe's The Raven
asoir:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6721/attachmentphp0zm.jpg
-from The Great Escape
dmitri:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2344/attachment1php8ni.jpg
-from Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment
"She began to untie the packet and turned to the light (all the windows were closed in spite of the heat). Her back was turned towards Raskolnikoff, and for a few seconds she paid no further attention to him. He opened his coat, freed the hatched from the loop, but did not yet take it from its hidingplace; he held it with his right hand beneath the garment."
amer-nazri:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2687/entsvu8.jpg
-from Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers
'As soon as the whole company was assembled, standing in a wide circle around Treebeard, a curious and unintelligible conversation began. The Ents began to murmur slowly: first one joined and then another, until they were all chanting together in a long rising and falling rhythm......'
Noë:
http://www.marleenrenders.com/sketchbook/TC23Noe.jpg
-from a fairy tail by the Brothers Grimm
In short; a princess is born after twelve princes, and the king wanted his twelve sons to die if the 13th child would be a girl.
Their mother didn't want her sons to die so she told them to run away.
When the princess grows older, her mother once tells the princess that she had twelve brothers, but that they fled the castle because their father wanted to kill them. The princess goes to search for her brothers and finds them. They all live very happy in a little cottage. The princess decides to stay with them and cook their food. One day she sees twelve white lily's in the backyard and decides to give them to her brothers, but her brothers all turn into ravens when she picks the flowers. An old witch tells the girl that she should be silent for seven years, or else her brothers will die. So the girl goes to sit in a tree to be silent for seven years.
Evil_Sloth:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2664/lotrdrawyk3.jpg
-from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings
bestow:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9206/attachmentphp0sm.jpg
-no book cited. from Cluny or something, I guess?
SirGreenSock:
http://www.projectsole.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/jan07390a.jpg
-from Greek mythology - Theseus slaying the Minotaur
Cup of Joe:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4811/011807tc23vl5.jpg
-from Golding's Lord of the Flies
Mydrim:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9057/alicelowresdo4.jpg
-from Carroll's Alice in Wonderland
Kronos:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4659/madhatter2mb6.jpg
-from Carroll's Alice in Wonderland
"This piece of rudeness was more than Alice could bear: she got up in great disgust, and walked off; the Dormouse fell asleep instantly, and neither of the others took the least notice of her going, though she looked back once or twice, half hoping that they would call after her: the last time she saw them, they were trying to put the Dormouse into the teapot."
Nice work all around, I think the pencil/ink only rule worked pretty well. If there's interest, we could eventually do another medium-specified challenge. #24 is coming soon, in the meantime vote and post your comments on these.
SirGreenSock
January 20th, 2007, 08:10 AM
Vote went to Kronos. Purpose of this challenge was illustration and storytelling and he's got it in spades.
Second choice was evil_sloth, the only things detracting it was the composition, that cape ruined it for me, it completely hid the focus of the action by reducing the contrast of the area.
Good work everyone as well, lookin forward tot the next challenge.
Lewis
January 20th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Mydrim, good sense of motion in it
Had some sort of exams this week so couldnt participate :(
I WANT ANOTHER PENCIL ONLY :nohope: :nohope: :nohope: :nohope:
Bendragon
January 20th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Vote goes to Evil Sloth. This is very well drawn and the rendering is well thought and not just random. Good job!
TLL
January 20th, 2007, 08:57 AM
My vote went to Kronos. Great picture.
The drawing of amer-nazri would have been my second choise, also really great.
Wolfbane
January 20th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Had some sort of exams this week so couldnt participate :(
I WANT ANOTHER PENCIL ONLY :nohope: :nohope: :nohope: :nohope:
:S No way! erm, Plate, please allow digi's next round :P Maybe a enviroment?
Olle Werme
January 20th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Oh coolies, didn't know there was a pencil only challange going on, would have been fun to enter. Got to check in here more often :P
Very nice work guys, some really good drawings in there. ^_^
v0rbiss
January 20th, 2007, 09:24 AM
Voted for Njord, his piece is one of the few that felt like illustration I'd like to see in a book and it was the most "sincere" one.
So here we go:
invinciblewombat: Good compo, severe lacking value range tho..You could have slipped some major details in the extreme closed-up face too. :) The whole piece looks unfinished, too bad because that could've been a great piece!
cardoso: keep at it man. :)
Mehz: the pic is too busy atm, no focal point due to the same value range and same contrast troughout the whole thing.
Bendragon: cool design, but the lightimng is a problem as already mentioned. The two children aren't popping out, eventho the are the closest to us, and are the protagonists I suppose. The bear is whacking em attention-wise. And try some neutral bg, this white is ruining it.
Njord: Very good pic man, I'm impressed! It isn't shining with some extreme technical mastery, but the mood, the black:white balance etc. are very well thought out. This bg effect you've achieved traditionaly kicks some serious ass too! Some minor flaws that I wouldn't even mention, but anyway: the bird's neck, maybe it wouldn't bend that way in reality? The legs/body transition is a bit too "sharp".(damn my poor english :nohope:)
asoir:you can do much better than that, this looks rushed. Compared to what I've seen from you this is a joke! ;)
dmitry- very good, with a little problem, being the extremely long legs of the man.
Amer-nazri: mind-blowing rendering skill, beautifull pencilwork. :hatsoff: Anyhow, the lack of more pronounced enviro around the treants is bad imho.
About the compo, it's very solid. The only thing bugging me is the closing of the pic at the right side, all objects end there, instead of continuing outside of the pic, like in the left side.
Noe: That's one of your best works I've seen, gj! :) My only crits would be the girl being too flat, a casted shadow from her skirt on the treetrunk would fix that a bit, and some more libne variety at the face and hair would've been good too. Keep it up! :)
Sloth: Awesome pencils! But you know that, on to the crits! ;) First, you should've finished it, it has great potential imho. The reclining guy's left leg must be broken at least in three places to stay like that. Sauron's shoulders look stiff and perspectively incorrect. And lastly, the obvious "insiration" from the movie, but that's your decision.
bestow: Try spending some more time on your entry pics, ok? You are 14-15 right, I'm sure you have more spare time than that! Some of the older guys here spend days on their images eventho they have much more work and obligations etc. When you do that, I'll give you some real crits! ;)
SirGreenSock: The man's head is far too big, the MInotaur's pose is looking awkward, the man looks like he has no right leg, and the compo isn't good for such a dinamic scene imo.
Cup of Joe: Really good compo, too bad it looks like you haven't even started working seriously on it.... ;)
Mydrim: Good stuff man, the only big crit being the anatomy issues. And that the feet are getting lost in the background. :) I hope we'll meet again here. ;)
Kronos: That's the most illustrationally looking pic, but it has zero originality, for me at leats. Feel like I've seen the same take on the tea scene thousands of times, theer is not even a hint of something from the author incorporated in it. And there is a very big problem with the compo, the left lower angle of the pic seems empty. Everything is leading to that part of the image, like there should be an alien ripping bunnyes apart, and all I see is an emty part of a kitchen table. My point: the teathing with the mouse in it isn't suffiscient there, or maybe it should've been placed more to the left, or I dunno, it looks wrong to me atm.
On the specific medium challenges, that'd be terriffic! :D
Bendragon
January 20th, 2007, 09:53 AM
I agree with Wolfbane. Im sure everyone is more accomplished at drawing than painting. I personally find it more challenging to paint. (or maybe a traditional painting challenge! hehehehe)
dmitri
January 20th, 2007, 11:08 AM
I voted for Noë. The pic's style and feeling seems to fit the story nicely and it made me want to read the fairy tale... and I ain't a too big fan of those. :)
v0rbiss, thanks for the crit again. :D
Njord-E55
January 21st, 2007, 04:08 AM
Thanks V0rbiss, but where is your entry?
I voted for Mydrim. I really like the style and I think it would be a great illustration.
Anyone noticed how may illustrated "Alice in Wonderland"? Seems like a bed-time favorite around here.
Kronos
January 21st, 2007, 04:24 AM
Voted for Noë, i think you captured the mood really well, somehow you got a fantastic sense of silence into the pic, well done :P the blurb thing for the story you gave cracks me up too btw, its so bleak, and kinda doesn't make a whole lotta sense, just how fairy tales should be :D
i think my second choice would have been for dmitri, then Mydrim then probably Njord-E55, all quite strong pieces, nice work
thanks to SirGreenSock for the vote and compliment :D
thanks TLL too!
thanks a lot for the critique too V0rbiss, i agree it wasn't the most interesting or original interpretation of alice. but i do also have to say there wasn't any overwhelming emphasis on coming up with a new take on the book, this was just what i thought of when i read the passage. i can see what your saying about the compo though its very empty in a place where it probably shouldn't be. thanks again!
i gave critiques to everyone in the original thread if you missed them
CRITS (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1181236&postcount=108)
asoir
January 21st, 2007, 05:10 AM
voted dmitri, great atmosphere man!
vorbiss- Haha, I'm not a fan of it either, the bike was the only thing that was planned and then for the rest of the composition I thought "oh shit" :P
amer-nazri
January 21st, 2007, 05:59 AM
Here goes nothing!
invinciblewombat: Excellent composition! I like the fact that the linework is complete. I think maybe the contrast could have been taken further, by adding a tone to the mountains in the background, and some more shades here and there. But overall nice and complete work!
cardoso: Nice and fun comic style. I would have preferred for it to be less sketchy and a little bit more refined in terms of the linework as well as shading. Pay attention to the part that you would like to stand out.
Mehz: I really like how you've inked this! It feels quite mysterious to me, looking at it. My crits to further improve this piece is to maybe add more detail on the mushrooms, particularly the one in the foreground, more texture on the organic parts like the trees and the ground, and maybe adding a shadow on the figures in order to indicate the light source
Bendragon: Cool poses! I really like your portrayal of Iorek the bear. There are some anatomical issues with Will and Lyra. I think by upping the contrast some more you can make this piece really stand out. For example, right now I cant see any part that has the whitest white to make it stand out, because your tonal range is restricted to midtones. Add a few darker parts, for example underneath the bears arms, etc. It also helps to designate a light source.
Njord-E55: Simple and effective! I like it! I really like the cast shadow, but the edges along her face could be refined a bit. The raven is beautiful, and I'm liking the bacgkround too. Is this an exerpt from the book, or just a sort-of cover illustration?
asoir: Cool stylish piece! My favourite part is the crease of his shirt as well as the details on the motorbike, which are beautiful. I'm not quite sure about the composition however.
dmitri: You piece is very well done, the shading and tones on the jacket, the face and on all parts is accurate. I like the fact that you have designated a light source, and I also like how the back of the sitting lady has the darkest value. In terms ofproportionality, I'm not sure if you intended for the standing figure to be tall, because he must be really tall, if he is supposed to be standing on the same plane as the sitting lady.
amer-nazri: Pffffft! Needs more of everything!!!!!
Noe: This piece is one of my favourites: Its very mysterious and somehow freaky. The face is beautiful and freaky at the same time. The texture on the tree is extremely well made, and I also like the variety of the birds' positions. The lady's left hand/arm is somehow distorted though.
Evil_Sloth: Your piece is very well-rendered. I quite like the fact that Sauron is really dark. My favoutrite part has to be the lying man's left leg: the rendering on this part is beautiful!I agree though that this feels like a snapshot of the movie, and would have liked your own interpretation.
bestow: Your character seems interesting, but requires a lot more work in order to be appealing. It needs a light source, some more shading, the linework needs to be moe refined, and more detail needs to be put in. Then the character will Really stand out, and have personality.
SirGreenSock: This piece is also well-rendered, and the expressions of Theseus and the minotaur are excellen. It feels like this is the climax of the fight. If you make the contrast more vivid, by adding really dark parts around the neck and where the shadows are located, you can make this piece even more dramatic. Also, Theseus' right leg seems to disappear.
Cup of Joe: I really like the composition of this piece;it makes you wonder what is going on, and provokes attention. However it needs shading and rendering, and some more detail in order to really be complete.
Mydrim: I really like your portrayal of Alice: she seems a lot cooler, more bohemian (if thats the word). I also like Alice's pose, it really makes it feel as if there is a gravity pulling her down. The objects closest to the foreground can have a bit more detail though.
You can aslo add a bit more texure and detail on her dress.
Kronos: Your piece is great,as it appears very complete and well-rounded. There isn't a part that I feel lacks a lot of attention. I really like how you've rendered the rabbit fur. I think you could have been more brave and added even more contrast to the shading behind the chair, on the sleeve, and on the rabbit, who is in the foreground.
Lewis
January 21st, 2007, 06:54 AM
Very weird that amer-nazri didnt get any votes. Imo he has one of the best pencil-techniques in this challenge :\
No way! erm, Plate, please allow digi's next round Maybe a enviroment?
:nohope:
v0rbiss
January 21st, 2007, 07:00 AM
Thanks V0rbiss, but where is your entry?
....
Anyone noticed how may illustrated "Alice in Wonderland"? Seems like a bed-time favorite around here.
At the sketch stage, never had enough time to even start the real pic. End of the semestre, so hectic!:^^;:
On Alice, there was even a whole TD about her ages ago, when I was still lurking, the biatch is popular around here!:perv:
@Kronos: looking back at my crit for your pic, now I see that it was a bit too blunt and me sounds like a snotty bastard! :madchef: Anyhow, I'm glad you didn't took that personally. ;)
On a side note, I know that you all haven't seen too much of my own work which results in the questionable credibility of my ramblings, like "who the fuck is that guy to teach me" etc. and that's perfectly understandable! :hatsoff: I intend on changing that by posting some more stuff in the future. Btw, some of the more strange crits on my lifedrawings came from a person not knowing shit about drawing, my brother that is. The things he say are so so far from my mind, yet so obvious after he points em out. Ergo, never underestimate a crit, no matter how skilled is the person giving it. :)
asoir
January 21st, 2007, 07:45 AM
Very weird that amer-nazri didnt get any votes. Imo he has one of the best pencil-techniques in this challenge :\
:nohope:
Yeah, I was VERY caught up inbetween the two...but dmitri's tickled my atmosphere button just a tad too much :]
amer- thanks! lmao @ self crit ;P
Evil_Sloth
January 21st, 2007, 08:36 AM
I voted for amer-nazri, cool shit bra loved the designs, few perspective issues but yeah lovin it.
Hmm I wanted to do a good job in this challenge so that I wouldn't be questioned on using digital as a crutch or something. Anyway... didn't finish it, had planned to do a lot more with it like add bg chars to make the scene thing make more sense. Should of finished it *shakes fist at Blizzard*. Didn't use any refs for it, thanks for checking that I didn't copy it from a freeze from a movie (give me more credit than that guys jeez...). Decided that Sauron was more of an iconic char so I tried to match his armour as much as what I could remember.
It would be awesome to do a highend digital enviroment. That'd be sweet. Let me know your thoughts...
Cup of Joe
January 21st, 2007, 09:07 AM
Thanks to Vorbiss, amer-nazri and Kronos for the crits! I agree with all of them, and it comes down to I started too late and didn't have the time I would have liked.
Hmm, tough choice. I'm going to go with amer-nazri, though Kronos was a close second.
And on the subject of medium-specific challenges, I'd love it if there was another one eventually! (further away from midterms, that is)
Noë
January 21st, 2007, 01:03 PM
Wow, those entries turned out so great!!
I really think there's a lot of improvement in the entries.. Really great!
I'm all for another specified medium challenge. I think it gets people a bit out of their comfort zone, but that is good because you'll have to think twice about everything you do, and I think that is a reason why a lot of these works look very good.
I'm going to do a quick digital paintover on my own entry to find out what I could've done to make my entry have more impact ^^
Thanks for all the great crits people..! I'm really flattered that I actually got votes this challenge! :teeth: That is quite a big thing for me since this is the first challenge in which my entry got a vote :teeth: I know it's not about that, but it can make one a bit happier ^^
I'll do some crits myself too, but I think most of the good points have already been said. So I'll read the previous crits before I'm doing mine :D
love
Marleen
Njord-E55
January 21st, 2007, 01:30 PM
Njord-E55: Simple and effective! I like it! I really like the cast shadow, but the edges along her face could be refined a bit. The raven is beautiful, and I'm liking the bacgkround too. Is this an exerpt from the book, or just a sort-of cover illustration?
To answer your question, it is an exerpt from the raven. I should have posted the quote, so here it is:
But the raven still beguiling all my sad soul into smiling,
Straight I wheeled a cushioned seat in front of bird and bust and door;
Then, upon the velvet sinking, I betook myself to linking
Fancy unto fancy, thinking what this ominous bird of yore -
What this grim, ungainly, gaunt, and ominous bird of yore
Meant in croaking `Nevermore.'
This I sat engaged in guessing, but no syllable expressing
To the fowl whose fiery eyes now burned into my bosom's core;
This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining
On the cushion's velvet lining that the lamp-light gloated o'er,
But whose velvet violet lining with the lamp-light gloating o'er,
She shall press, ah, nevermore!
chaosrocks
January 21st, 2007, 03:40 PM
Teen challenge 22
Invincible wombat
You line work is strong.
The scene is very static … for being one of the most dramatic in the book. Perhaps a less centered more dynamic composition would have served you theme a little better. You started this in pencil and then rendered the ink in pen. If you going to use pencil and ink in this fashion you should be sure to erase the pencil. What is the shading? Looks like marker
The over all impression is still very light and lacking in value composition.
Cardoso
This has a nice cartoony flavour, but your lines lack decision and as I told wombat: You should use pencil for the complete render or ink it like a cartoon. If this is all pencil then you should clean up your lines and make them solid-er and lose the shading
There is an odd alignment between the horizon lines and the bat wings and you also might want to ref your bats a little.
Mehz
The variations in the line quality really help this piece. I would really like to see the lines being used to define the forms rather than as outlines
The tree on the left is starting to get a form and a lot of character. You could also use finer and more delicate lines in you figures. Alice is kinda hanging on the edge of the Mushroom dangling since her ground plain and that of the mushroom are not the same. This is a nioce , well thought out composition. Quite centered and I would like to see some indication of the land behind the mushroom. I love Alice and this scene has been done so many time that to really make it stand out you’d need to do something spectacular with it.
Bendragon
Nicely done, as the cover illo for a kids book. Needs more contrast. The text would be easy to place and it has a nice style to it. I’ve only read the Golden Compass so I can’t speak to the content. But it seems about right. Again it as a very stylized form so the oddness in the anatomy and the awkwardness of the poses is not as much of a problem as it might be in a different style.
Njord-e55
Very nice evocative feeling to this. The splotches and stains help to give it a creepy quality and you are using the ink to good advantage. The anatomy of the face is a little twisted and the anatomy of the crow is strange enough to really mar the idea. The red beak and eyes on the crow are unnessisary and very distracting. Manipulative in a way that isn’t subtle enough to be unnoticed
Asoir
I’m not familiar with this story but you appear to be having a lot of fun with the ink. I’m afraid at this juncture it is controlling you more than you are controlling it. But you are achieving a nice variation in line quality. Some anatomy problems of which Im sure you are aware.
Dimitri
This is really well done, it has a very nice quality to it . the lighting is good
And the line work is evocative. It looks a bit like George Bellows or some of the 1930 regionalist realists.
Amer-nazri
This is one of the nicest renders of the group. The pencil is well handled
Not how I think of Ents but an interesting depiction. I wish you had taken as much care with the rest of the image as you did with the trees themselves and the cute blobbl ness of the hobbits is distracting when the trees are so wonderfully gnarly.
Noë
Tis is one of the nicest pieces I’ve seen from you. The princess’s head would be more effective if it were in contrast with the back ground, now at first glance the figure looks headless. And if the crows were in a more specific arrangement. One leading your eye to the other.
Evil Sloth
You are just getting better and better. You pencil textures are still alittle random and you obviously had more interest Sauron, than Isildur. Just enough ground to stabilize the figures.. it’s a nice study . but not a finished composition? I’d like to see more form as the armour rounds the body. Perhaps a nice strong light source would help. Nice job
Bestow
Redwall? You can do better. This was very hurried. You ned to think about how the fur goes around the form rather than just scribbling.
Sir GreenSock
Nice dynamic composition. If the lighting were consistant it would be quite dramatic.There are some fairly large anatomy issues ie Theseus’s right leg…
The minotaur’s hands are very well done.
Cup of Joe
Nice composition, well drawn. Desperately needs contrast. be carefull with your shading all being up and to the right. Im right handed to and you need to make your shading go around the form. Rather than just one direction
Mydrim
Alice for the 80s…with leg warmers this is fun. The scratchyness of the inside of the hole is distracting. And you could use more value contrast too this whole image is a bit on the grey side. Some anatomy issues. Try to assume the position you are asking your character to assme. Feel where it twists the body and try to incorporate that in to your drawing
Kronos.
Nicely handled. Thematically the images are very simlar to Tennials depictions of these Characters. I would really like to see you take the verbal descriptions and go your own direction with them.
Over all
I was not surprised to see LOTR , but I was surprised by the number of Alices. The pencil and pen rule both made you reach a simplicity you haven’t worked with much before. But it also peeled away all the tricks you’ve been using and made you concetrate more on the basics of image making.
Good job all
Voted Dmitri
I think he captured his story best in his image as well as using the whole framework and balance and contrast
TheGnoll
January 21st, 2007, 04:34 PM
voted for Kronos, the pic maybe isn't techincally as good as other entries (like evil sloth, for example) but it has a genuine illustation feel, imho.So he gets my vote.Second best imho was Noe's, but that ink IMHO was a bit away from the topic's medium limit...IMHO.
good entries everyone ;)
ciao
bestow
January 21st, 2007, 08:50 PM
work harder on next, finals week.
Noë
January 22nd, 2007, 03:54 AM
but that ink IMHO was a bit away from the topic's medium limit...IMHO.
I don't get that part. In Plate's fist post it said "pencil and ink" as a medium we could use. Then how is it ink far away from the medium limit? :P
I've tried a small digital paintover (gotta love those multiply layers) for my entry, don't think it looks a lot better. Girl looks more evil now I think.; click if you're interested (http://www.marleenrenders.com/sketchbook/327-2.jpg)
And thanks Chaos!
Love
Marleen
Mydrim
January 22nd, 2007, 07:43 AM
Ok, I'll try to express something with my english...
inviciblewombat:
I like your brave ambitions to do a scene with some movie-like view. Compostition is somehow odd, but I like it. But the complex picture needs redraw- I'd uuse this just like a sketch, repair the anatomy and then begin on new paper..
cardoso and bestow:
Sketchy cartoonish sketch... No ambitions- no comments:)
Mehz:
One of my favourites- like the scene composition. Feel like the camera is slowly escaping and left them talk. Alice is floating little bit, yes, but that's not such a problem. I'd like rendering thinner, more details...
Njord:
Cool, this black'n white shading.. But with this simplicity I need certain touch - the raven's left leg's lying bad...
asoir:
Like the anatomy style, but little more rendering needed...
Well, I will continue:) Now I must run..
Mydrim
January 22nd, 2007, 08:57 AM
Bendragon:
Not very good composition.. And bad anatomy- right hands of bearf and boy are just much more longer
Dmitri:
Well, that's little boring.. And the character standing has the arm too big.. But I like the strange body size, respecting to the character sitting.
SirGreenSock:
Not very good... Bad pose- the way the monster hold the hero is just somehow stupid... And the minotarus itself has bad anatomy.. Theseus not so bad.
Cup Of Joe:
No bad, but no rendering tho.. And the body- the muscles of the guy, especially the chest is bad.
Amer Nazri:
Great design and great pencil work.. More ambient would be nice, but got my vote tho.
Evil Sloth:
Ok, this is one of my best three pieces too... Lovely pencil rendering and stuff... Shame you did copy the Sauron design.
Kronos:
Well, to be sincerelly, I don't understand why you have so many votes:)
The only power of the picture is good rabbit's face and little bit of the story telling mentioned. I personally don't like the guy's face- somehow too itsy cartoonish, cheap mimic and not very certain. Alice has the left arm too long, the nice details of the cloth in the edge of the table on the left just ends by the guy's hand, the sketch/ previous versions(teapot, rabbit) are just TOO visible- shame!:)
But the biggest problem is the pose- the main focus of the picture, the main story of the scene. It's supposed that the guy is trayin to get Dormouse into the teapot, but by this way, he can't do anything. From that distance he has no angle to make pression on the Dormouse, and the handwork itself is bad too- it seems he don't want to take him down by all his strenght, but just want to barely touch him and say something sweet.
So, my vote has that ent guy, other two possibles was the first Alice and the Sauron.
TheGnoll
January 22nd, 2007, 08:57 AM
well at the beginning i thought it was just a pencil one, then pencil+ink, and in the end it kinda ended up any medium as long as its black and white :)
and i liked to see some lines, instead on strokes on this challenge, so i went for kronos piece.But as i said, yours is a very nice entry, i had to chose between yours and kronos's, so i chose the one by kronos because i prefered to see lines in this challenge.Hope i made myself clear.
If i haven't, well, nice entry anyway :) ;)
ciao
Mydrim
January 22nd, 2007, 09:01 AM
Oh and Noe!:)
Good brush work, good atmosphere and the mood. I'd like more detailed character and some details(thinner brush render) somewhere on the whole pic too
Narmo
January 22nd, 2007, 01:22 PM
I couldn't participate to this one, no scanner at home :'(
But I caught a cam so here is my modest wip, it would have been an illustration of Tolkien's Tom Bombadil poems, but it's just a rough: http://narmorhin.free.fr/illus/TCH/book-illustration.jpg
Anyway, my vote went to Kronos, it looks professional, great job ! But amer-nazri & dimitri's ones are especially nice too !
I'm not sure I'll join in the next one since there's the gods at war challenge running, and I'm doing my best not to be ridiculous among all the great artists participating... :zzz: :^^;:
asoir
January 22nd, 2007, 01:51 PM
thanks for the crits guys!
v0rbiss
January 22nd, 2007, 03:44 PM
.....
I'm not sure I'll join in the next one since there's the gods at war challenge running, and I'm doing my best not to be ridiculous among all the great artists participating... :zzz: :^^;:
Hehe, same here. I'm really curious how that will end. My ass will be seriously bruised in any case, I suppose... :blind:
megadubitably
January 22nd, 2007, 03:55 PM
I really wish I could have participated in this one, but I couldn't because of exams/new semester/college apps and crap.
My vote went for Noë, it goes well with the story and has a nice atmosphere
amer-nazri
January 22nd, 2007, 04:05 PM
Im in this Gods at war TDOME as well. I've been waiting to start, but my wacom pen replacement which was due to arrive last tuesday, is nowhere to be seen. Im gonna call the company i ordered from and KICK THEIR ASS, verbally off course, and with utmost politeness.
Mmmm, cant wait for all the goodies y'all are gonna produce!
Narmo
January 22nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
I'm really curious how that will end. My ass will be seriously bruised in any case, I suppose...
Don't be so pessimistic ! It's not as if tens of professionals participate ...
We'll share the defeat, don't worry ;)
v0rbiss
January 22nd, 2007, 04:40 PM
Hey guys, whaddaya say about creating a private group about the god tdome where we could share some ideas, sketches, crits and whatnot, just us the teens participating.(we'll show those professionals!8) ) What do you think? If you think it's a good idea I'll create the group tomorrow, if not, screw that. ;) Good luck anyway!:yayca:
Narmo
January 22nd, 2007, 05:56 PM
Totally agree ! I was precisely thinking of sharing my WIP, since I work on my entry some houres today (4 or 5h :o), it starts to look like something.
But please explain me with details how to join the private group when you create it, those things are mysterious for me... :)
amer-nazri
January 23rd, 2007, 04:10 AM
sure thing! that means i gotta start'a sketchin!
v0rbiss
January 23rd, 2007, 07:51 AM
Ok, I've created the group, and as far as I know the only way for you to join in (since it's private) is to receive invitational emails sent by me. So, pls PM me with your emails so I can invite you. I hope it'll work that way. :)
P.S. Sorry for hijacking the thread, that'll be the last post like that!(I think... :P)
chaosrocks
January 23rd, 2007, 10:50 AM
seems a little exclusive to me
I guess you don't want outside help?
pffft
thats what I get for trying to be helpful
chaos
v0rbiss
January 23rd, 2007, 12:10 PM
seems a little exclusive to me
I guess you don't want outside help?
pffft
thats what I get for trying to be helpful
chaos
The only reason for the group to be private and constraint is that I don't think our oponnents need to know where we're at the moment, not that it'll change something, but to be a bit more intriguing you know. :)
And if you've just sent a pm with your mail I'd've(wtf) gladly let you in, no need for all that drama. >:D ;) So yeah, you are more than wellcome, your insightfull crits are always a pleasure to read! :hatsoff: (W8ing pm!:confident )
Narmo
January 23rd, 2007, 12:29 PM
Well, I've some troubles to join the group so... :s
chaosrocks: Don't see anything against you plz, I think that everybody here knows the quality of your help and crits you give.
Whatever, I personnaly drop the idea of the private forum...
v0rbiss
January 23rd, 2007, 12:35 PM
Well, screw that suspence shit, we'll get our noob pictures smashed anyway, so I declare the tiny black cocks group open to anybody willing to help, stare in amazement caused by the masterpieces posted there, ridicule us etc. ;)
P.S. BACK OFF JLA!!! :xpld:
asoir
January 23rd, 2007, 12:39 PM
did something just happen here? =/
v0rbiss
January 23rd, 2007, 12:48 PM
To sum it all up, now there is a group forum for anybody to post wips, exchange ideas etc etc. around the GOD vs GOD TDome hosted by JLAlfaro. To view it, or join in the fun, click the GROUPS section of the forum up there, and look for the GodVSGod TDome group, and voila. :D (I'm fixing the group name atm)
~v0r
Narmo
January 23rd, 2007, 12:51 PM
It works !
Kronos
January 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM
so is the next teen tdome coming up soon? it would be cool if there was some way of being alerted when the next one starts?
i don't know maybe thats too much hassle, but it would help getting more frequent competitors and there seems to always be someone near the end that says "OH i wish i had found this earlier" type thing
just an idea.....
Bendragon
January 24th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Its usually up at the same time as the poll....
But if people who always seem to miss it really do want to participate they can just keep checking this section constantly like Im doing :P I just think theres a lot of people that just says things but dont act.
Kronos
January 24th, 2007, 03:48 PM
@ Bendragon, yeah what you say is true i guess, i think i'm just paranoid that i'm gunna forget about it... and i'm getting edgy, i want the next one!
PLATE WHERE ARE YOU!!!
just kidding no hurry :P
Bendragon
January 24th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Good to hear that Kronos :P I know what you mean, I feel like that too sometimes. Good sign :)
Keng
January 24th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Lost my chance to participate. Way to much going on in my life right now, got a post-secondar school application deadling fast approaching, school tests and projects, and then I went and signed up to get my Lvl 2 snowboard instructors because I didn't think I had enough to worry about/study for :P Maybe after the next one I should be able to start doing this again, and try to comit.
Anyway, my vote goes to amer-nazi. I'd explain why, but gotta get to class.
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