Depression.

[haiku]

Well, i guess you might of expected it to be more of a 'help me with this specific drawing, painting, etc' kind of thread, but it's not.
Mostly, I liked to draw from my imagination, since i was a little boy, and i got inspired by lot's of things, especially when i arrived into ConceptArt.org.
- Though, i seem to have a minor problem, my drawings has always being sketches and doodles out of my head, and i could never seem to get pass that stage, if it's because i don't know how, if it's because i seem to get blocked after awhile, i don't know. Everytime i seem to take a look at these fourms, i get reinspired, and i draw. Unfortunetly each time i draw i'm never quite happy with it, or i always figure it's not matching this forum levels.

I hope someone could please give me a suggestion about what to do, or how to get my work to be more professional.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate it.

[Behemoth]

practice.

Whenyou've reached your limit on a given picture put it somewhere safe and come back to it at a later date.

good luck.

[haiku]

Thanks for the comment.
I've being working, and i practice and practice constantly... but still i seem to lack that 'speciallity' that people here have.

[Signature]

Well I hope you understand the importance of using reference while you are still learning!?

I think it's one of the biggest problems ... that many people think using reference is cheating somehow ...

[haiku]

No, mostly i don't use a refrence.

[egerie]

well you should. What signature said is important. You can get inspiration from flipping trough books, etc. The best reference you'll get is from life wether it's landscapes or characters. It helps kick start the mind and get off that plateau you seem to be hitting.

[incognito]

Draw people, or animals, stuff like that. I don't mean art classes, or life drawing sessions, I mean family members and whatnot. But try to mainly do it when they are sleeping, or very still that sometimes help.

[haiku]

Thanks for the comments, yet again.

Well, i believe that drawing people, or animals is not my problem, is that trasfor from and ordinary and plain drawing, to something greater, better than that.
The drawings i draw, i feel that they are 'plain and simple' kind of drawing.

Thanks again.

[Johannes]

I recognise the problem. I think U may have to make a few FINISHED pieces inspite of your troubles - just to see that it is possible - and to have sort of a meassuring stick. By doing that - pushing yourself to greater hights, U also gain confidence. :D
Then U can go back to those drawings in say, a year, and see your development.
Also, try to participate in the daily sketchgroup here at conceptart - that way U have plenty of opportunity to push yourself to draw.
It may well be that drawing are really just 20% or so inspiration and 80% hard work (perspiration). :/

I think part of your problem is that in your imagination - U "see" the finished piece as a perfect creation, but when U try to get it on paper U get disappointed, because theres not like U "saw" it in your mind. That way U set yourself up for disappointments. :/ I know this is the way I used to do - getting disappointed all the time. Nowadays Ive trained myself up to a level where, I perhaps get things the way I imagine it at about 50-60%. Im not aiming for 100% right now, but perhaps 80%.

Well hoped theese ramblings helped U in some way.
Cheer up! And reward urself frequently by drawing something fun and relatively easy - I prefer half-nekked chicas with guns. ;)

[Erik]

try to have fun with it in stead of comparing to guys who have been painting since before they could walk.

Comparing can always be done later. Only compare with yourself and improvement will be obvious.

[gasmask]

Well yeah, we can listen to you but we cant really say what ur problems with art are unless u post something.

[haiku]

Erik - well that's what i'm trying to do, though i can't really enjoy something that well you know look 'half completed' or so.
gasmask - Yeah i know, I'm trying to think about something to draw, when i'll get inspired enough, and thinking of something 'worthy' enough of posting. I will.

Thanks for the comments, and time.

[egerie]

Well I think you need to enjoy the process of doing art more than the result especially while working. I find that when you get out of the trance of working, you find yourself in front of a finished artwork. *That*'s the perk of being an artist.

[bizarre]

if you're depressed because you can't draw well, then you must be depressed when your shoes come untied or your cereal gets soggy or you trip over something. it's not that big of a deal if you can't draw. if you truly beleive that you can't draw, then go away. simple as that. and if you truly believe that you're better than you're crediting yourself for, thenyou'll be back. if you believe your own hype, you won't be back. simple. but then again i've always believed that things you can't change don't matter and the things you can change are all that matter in the world. so it's kind of hypocritical of me to say that improving yourself or your skills doesn't matter because that's all that matters. my head hurts. i can't offer advice without sarcasm, so i'll just give you a popsicle stick riddle form of advice.

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because you're judging yourself based on other people. You should keep a sketchbook, and draw in it. don't tear any pages out. work hard at drawing as well as you can. i'm telling you this as a fact not an opinion, you will suck for a while. you will be terrible compared to what you will be later on. Life goes on, with or without you. art is not life. you are not your art. but that doesn't matter. and, if nothing is ever good enough for you, as in none of your art will ever be good enough for your standards, then nobody else is going to think so either. well, maybe someone else will think it's good, but you'll just interpret their praise or criticism or comments as an attack and your own insecurities will eat you alive. that's why the chicken crossed the road.


...who wants to see my ass?

(i should make that my sig. i wrote that in my first post... should be my tradition here. yeah.)

i tried to write a haiku to make some sort of half-witty end to this post, i'm genuinely trying to help, i hope my "abrasive" nature doesn't put you off.

so feel better champ
it's gonna be a long time
but you will get there.

hey! i did it!:chug:

[haiku]

Originally posted by bizarre
if you're depressed because you can't draw well, then you must be depressed when your shoes come untied or your cereal gets soggy or you trip over something. it's not that big of a deal if you can't draw. if you truly beleive that you can't draw, then go away. simple as that. and if you truly believe that you're better than you're crediting yourself for, thenyou'll be back. if you believe your own hype, you won't be back. simple. but then again i've always believed that things you can't change don't matter and the things you can change are all that matter in the world. so it's kind of hypocritical of me to say that improving yourself or your skills doesn't matter because that's all that matters. my head hurts. i can't offer advice without sarcasm, so i'll just give you a popsicle stick riddle form of advice.

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because you're judging yourself based on other people. You should keep a sketchbook, and draw in it. don't tear any pages out. work hard at drawing as well as you can. i'm telling you this as a fact not an opinion, you will suck for a while. you will be terrible compared to what you will be later on. Life goes on, with or without you. art is not life. you are not your art. but that doesn't matter. and, if nothing is ever good enough for you, as in none of your art will ever be good enough for your standards, then nobody else is going to think so either. well, maybe someone else will think it's good, but you'll just interpret their praise or criticism or comments as an attack and your own insecurities will eat you alive. that's why the chicken crossed the road.


...who wants to see my ass?

(i should make that my sig. i wrote that in my first post... should be my tradition here. yeah.)

i tried to write a haiku to make some sort of half-witty end to this post, i'm genuinely trying to help, i hope my "abrasive" nature doesn't put you off.

so feel better champ
it's gonna be a long time
but you will get there.

hey! i did it!:chug:
I wasn't talking about being depressed in my order day life. I mean in all that involves drawing, and paiting as in getting frustrated with it.
And i have no problem in drawing sketches (Good sketches even) it's the problem getting it to the 'next level' as i stated.

Yet again, thanks for the time. And comments.

p.s: bizarre that comment made me laugh, thanks. :)

[Erik]

Such depression can be necessary in order to bring the transformation needed for the 'next level'.

Show some work!

I honestly believe that even the big boys on the forum are seldom if ever satisfied themselves with what they make. It's the curse of the artist and the boon at the sametime for it will make you want to improve.