first atempt c&c

[soup]

this is pretty much my first serious atempt, i just got my scanner and I havent had the time to get to serious with the settings yet, i coloured it with my graphire2 which i am also just gettting familiar with, any c&c would be much apreciated.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/martin0/teghan.jpg

[Erik]

Not much to crit on since there's not much there yet, except: practice practice practice.

Keep it up!

[soup]

now she is sick, this is the way i want it to look, what do you think????

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/martin0/done.gif

[davi]

sigh

[soup]

whats that supposed to mean?
seriously do you want me to stop postin here??
am i not 'good enuff'

[MrSmith]

i think it looks kind of cool

[soup]

thank you
nice to see not everyone is an eliteist

[togusa]

http://www.geocities.com/togusajr/1.txt

[incognito]

I think you need to study some more anatomy.

[Erik]

(...)

Did you mean to get the picture like this? Or is this the way you draw? If it's on purpose, why? What is the reason behind it? Did you try to emulate children drawings? Why is the girl nekkid? Is there a reason for it all?

I don't mean to be arrogant or crack down if it's not the case. In that case i still say: practice practice practice.

[sic1]

Originally posted by davi
sigh

:chug:

[sin]

LMFAO togusa

[Coma]

yourartissooooocooll!!!!111 omg!!11lolo!!!

::bludgeons head with a brick::

[endregan]

hmmm. not bad for your first try. it looks a bit lopsided or something not sure. try try again!

[soup]

whats with all the pricks on here?? its pretty fuckin rude

[soup]

oh ya, thanks to the people with HELPFUL comments

[soup]

Originally posted by togusa
http://www.geocities.com/togusajr/1.txt

whats that supposed to mean??
I dont care if you are making fun of me, I just dont get it, catsup?

[incognito]

Some companies make there ketchup called catsup instead of ketchup.

[thomasaurus]

There really isnt anything else to say other than practice.

Sorry if we come off rude, but look at it from our stand point. There are so many errors and problems with this, that its almost impossible to crit.

your lucky tho, Eatpoo would ban you in a sec if you posted something like this.

[incognito]

and even for less....I have experienced the wrath...but yeah, practice practice and then some more practice!

[Sinix]

Originally posted by togusa
http://www.geocities.com/togusajr/1.txt

Haha... That's the best crit ever. Holy Crap, BALEETED!

[Blackwell]

Hey Soup,

I think people need a bit of background on the piece to make meaningful crits. Some people use more of an illustrative style, and in this sense, I think this definitely has a style of its own; if it's realism you're going for, though, it wouldn't hurt to practice your anatomy. And her chest looks a bit hairy with the shading that you've attempted, but it's an interesting style.

(Togusa, nice use of Strong Bad, but I'd like to see more Homestar in your next piece, and maybe a touch of the Poopsmith. Seriously.)

-Blackwell

[amphex]

no comprendo.
es un broma??

Btw - im real excited about my exclusive use of spanish from now on...(babelfish.altavista.com spanish that is =))
WHOS WITH ME!!!??

btw2 - yah, i realized i ruined it with the btws..but ill just pretend they never happened.

[Erik]

donde esta el banho?

[bizarre]

¿por qué usted los individuos tiene que ser un pinchazo a este individuo pobre? ¡él ningún medio ningún daño, él aspira en el drenaje pero él aceptable!


whatever.

[Erik]

Claro!

Indeed.

[William b. Hand]

I think this is pretty decent. I don't think it can really be described as a concept piece... but, it's a pretty good image. Certainly the final colouring is the better of the two.

Although I understand why so many of the artists here are perplexed by your piece, I'm pretty dismayed at the wholesale trashing... I think it's called "flaming"... directed at your work.

The old adage: "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all" ...well, it would be an appropriate one to pay some credit to. If you don't feel a thread is worthy of your time, then leave it.
Constructive criticism is one thing. That's the point of the forum. but, this thread is full of something else.

[daniele]

What can i say.. i think that your vision is personal and of some interests, surely you hav to study painting tecniques but don't loose your VISION !!!!

Look at dave mckean work, specially draws and comics like cages and black orchid more than digital art and surely you'll find some inspiration..

bye bye

once my art teacher in comics school in Florence showed us a book made with drawings of people living in a psychiatric clinic and he told us, whe have to reach this"

so i thing that every one's vision is good if has something to say..

[mcotie]

Alright first of all. youre posting in the WIP need help section. So give us a little info on your purpose of this piece. most mates that post in this section let us know what's going on so we can get an idea on what youre trying to achieve.

Whats the piece for?

Who's it for?

Who are your influences and what would you like to get out of posting on here (since you're new)?

Next. since you are new takes an extra 15 minutes and surf around this forum and take a look at the type of artwork that is being posted here. I believe the small gallery at the first page of concept art. org will give you an idea the type of art that many are trying to achieve and the type of art that the guys that started this forum would like to see. Is the piece you did leaning in that direction? If it isn't I'm sure there are other forums somewhere in the cyber world that your piece could get the type of feedback you are looking for. I would say that the majority of the stuff here is concept art and illustration and the studying processes to achieve a concept goal and finished illustration piece. I'm sure I could have worded that better but I think I'm making my point.

I'm not saying you have to be the best to post here. My 9 yr old son posts on here on occasion. But the first time he posted he let everyone know what the heck is going on. So if youre new to art, and new to this forum, give us some background info so we can help you out. Or else we will treat you as someone who is coming here to disrespect us and make fun of us. Get it? For all I know you may be a 60 yr old artophobe that wants to see us roast in eternal conformist hell.

So help us out a little and give us some info on your piece and yourself and we'll take it from there.


Mitch

[sepulveda]

I don't understand why you get mad if you are the one that asked for crits and comments...did you expect everyone to love your piece?

if you go to the different threads in here, and read the crits and comments different artists get, you will see that no matter how good the piece is, theres always room for improvement, or suggestions but you have been the first person I have read has such a bad reaction. .......if you wanted people to praise your piece....you should have posted in the "oooooooohhhh's and aaaaaaaahhhhhhs" section which is for COMPLIMENTS and SUGER COATED LOVIN!

[soup]

the thing is, when i asked for crit's and comments, I didnt expect people to outright mock it, I guess i chould have been a bit more specific and asked for CONSTRUCTIVE crtticisim, but i guess thats what i get for assuming....

anyways im just gonna pretend i didnt post that pic, and when I make my next post Ill provide more info and hopefully I will have improved enough, I would also like everyone to know that I have no training in art what soever, I am starting a digital design class in fall, and i am just trying to get a headstart by trying to figure some shit out,

[Jon Hughes]

i likes it, it has its own style, not everyone is good with their first try soup, but from this i can see youve got alot of talent and determination that will take you far. Keep up the good work and draw draw draw, even the good people do shit ones, i reckon theirs atleast 4 bad drawings to 1 good one, for me its like 100 abd drawings to 1 good, but that cause im new too, but keep on drawing and you will see improvements. Its like swimming, you have to learn it first, before you can do it just like that.

[soup]

thanks jon, its nice to hear some positive stuff for once, Im going camping for a few daays so hopefully ill have some good stuff to post when i get back!

[Jophen Stein]

Soup,

Your picture is awesome, don't let these guys tell you any differently-they are just jealous of your natural ability. In my humble opnion this should be in the best of Concept Art. Although, camping and catsup might take this piece to a new level of intangible genius I dont think it is needed.

For the rest of you:
...now in a sailing sense, doldrums are those parts of the ocean near the equator where calm or baffling winds prevail. In other words, the doldrums are those places where no wind is blowing, or the wind that is blowing is not taking you anywhere. So there is no progress toward one's goal.
-Tammy Fae Baker

[Chromo48]

Stein pretty much summed it all up right there.;)

[Chromo48]

?

[softdrawer]

triblibli

[pconsidine]

Not for nothing, soup, but this site really isn't about posting and critiquing stuff like you posted (though I'm reluctant to make any blanket statement like that). As the name implies, it's for Concept Art which tends to be a more realistic style (naturally, given what a concept drawing is supposed to accomplish).

I don't think anyone was bashing you for spite or anything. Really, as a concept drawing, your piece really isn't very successful, since no one can even guess at the concept behind it. But all that has nothing to do with the fine art quality of the piece.

For my part, I think it comes off a little too much like a DeKooning retread, but that's just me (and I am an elitist, just so you know).

;)

[egerie]

all : See it as a test of telerance and patience.

soup : everything has been said, follow it. one more time : draw X 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999

[helix7]

Well I'd say that you should do some studies and experimentation in life drawing and apply what you learn in those to this drawing. If you can get into a figure drawing class, go for it. If not, just go to a park or something and do quick sketches of people to get a feel for body composition and shape. This will help you correct some of the proportional issues you're having. That should get you started.

Beyond that, just keep drawing as much as possible, every day. What you don't always see around here is the piles of sketches and color studies that people do before even attempting a final piece.

[OrangeCatNinja]

wow everyone on here is so tolerant and helpful.

i'm amazed, usually on art boards people can be such dicks.

good for all of you!
:chug: