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dechanique
December 29th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Hello! this is my first time here, and I am a little intimidated, but I would like to ask a question of all you more experienced people: I am looking for an art therapy masters program, inside the USA or outside.

I already have one degree, a bachelors in Psychology from Florida International University. I am currently persuing a second bachelors in Fine Arts with an emphasis on 3D and an additional emphasis on Drawing.

I know I can't live off drawing comics for the rest of my life, so I decided to combine my two favorite loves (psychology and art) and go into art therapy.

There are a few schools I was looking into: School of Visual Arts, George Washington University, University of Herfordshire, Art Institute of Chicago and a few others.

Does anyone attend these schools or know of the programs? Or have any other reccommendations?

I've got another two years before I graduate, so I have time to plan ahead and save money for rooming and tuition.


I tried to search in this forum (the education board) for art therapy and came up empty handed, so my apologies if I did not search properly.

Seedling
December 29th, 2006, 05:43 PM
You know, long ago I had a highschool counselor wrinkle up his nose when I said I wanted to be an artist. He then tried to steer me towards “art therapy” because it seemed like a nice safe career choice. To this day I’m peeved that a counselor would do such a thing.

Art therapy is a far cry from art, and it is a very far cry from illustration. I’m afraid that this is an illustration forum, so you aren’t likely to find information on this subject here.

Good luck on your search.

Seedling
December 29th, 2006, 10:01 PM
I know I can't live off drawing comics for the rest of my life. . .

How did I overlook this sentence? dech, this forum is populated by artists who have made their careers drawing comics, among other illustrative arts. It is a viable career choice, albeit one that requires a crap-ton of work and a willingness to go off the beaten path educationally and professionally. If you do decide to pursue art without compromise, this is the place to learn.

Elwell
December 29th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Excuse me folks, way to NOT answer the question.
I know I can't live off drawing comics for the rest of my life, so I decided to combine my two favorite loves (psychology and art) and go into art therapy.
Emphasis added.
You know, long ago I had a highschool counselor wrinkle up his nose when I said I wanted to be an artist. He then tried to steer me towards “art therapy” because it seemed like a nice safe career choice. To this day I’m peeved that a counselor would do such a thing.
Don't confuse your attitudes and history with someone else's.
Why not? Don't compromise your dreams in lieu of a 'viable' career choice.
Don't confuse your dreams with someone else's.

Elwell
December 30th, 2006, 01:43 AM
"I know I can't do A, so I'm doing B instead." That's a compromise, so I'm not confusing my dreams with someone else's, really.

But see, there's a difference between between "I know I can't do A," and "I don't believe anybody can do A." Maybe it's "I know I can't do A because that's not really what I want to do."

Anyway, in an attempt to somewhat answer dechanique's question:
I teach at SVA, but I don't really have any information about their art therapy program beyond that it exists and I think it has a pretty good reputation. In choosing a program, I would recommend going someplace that's in an area where you would like to end up living/working, since the connections you make will be most useful then. All other things being equal, I'd choose an art school over a university just because the art part of the program is almost sure to be better.

Seedling
December 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Don't confuse your attitudes and history with someone else's.

I don't believe I did.

dechanique
December 30th, 2006, 09:07 AM
Sorry for being unclear, I mean that I can't live off MY COMICS. I draw simple webcomics for my own amusement. I know I couldn't live off MY COMICS.

I like children, and I like working with children. My goal is to eventually move back to my hometown of Miami and start an ESL(i believe that is the abbreviation: english as a second language) art therapy program where I can have a caseload and work in the public schools, helping ESL students, especially those from immigrant families, like my parents. However, Miami offers no art therapy graduate programs, that I am aware of.

While there are many many artists on this board who do live off their art, I do not feel I have the talent nor perserverence to do so based on what I like to do best (draw comics). I like to make my own schedule, and some days I simply do not feel like drawing. I can't live off deadlines and crunch times, I like to work at my own pace- hence making comics for my own amusement instead of as a professional career. If I did start a career of comics, I know that I will burn out very quickly.


SVA was my first choice when it came to art school, but NYC is incredibly expensive, and I couldn't afford to live in the city AND pay tuition. Now I am in a better financial position to save, now that I have a white collar job, which is why SVA fell back into my top choices.

I decided to go into art therapy on my own accord. No one led me in this direction, I discovered that it was a viable career choice while talking to a professor about how much I loved my psychology classes.

I will never stop drawing comics, as I do enjoy them greatly. I do intend to get married and have children, and I will continue with my comics while I am staying at home (until the kids get old enough to go to school and I can have a day job again- for personal preferences I want to raise my children myself, not through a sitter). However, I like working and I like helping people. Nothing gave me more joy than Take Your Daughter to Work Day, where I went to my mothers Kindergarden class and did arts and crafts with the children all day long.

Seedling
December 30th, 2006, 09:27 AM
I decided to go into art therapy on my own accord. No one led me in this direction, I discovered that it was a viable career choice while talking to a professor about how much I loved my psychology classes.


Most excellent! I'm thrilled to hear that this is a career choice you arrived at yourself, and that you are motived to help others. You will be a very important person to those you help.

About the comics. . . life is long, and you may well have more time to explore "extracurricular" interests during your lifetime than you have during college.

dechanique
December 30th, 2006, 09:45 AM
My apologies for being so unclear earlier, english may be my first language, but I still find it difficult to phrase things with the proper emphasis while typing (I am a much better speaker than a writer). I meant no disrespect for those of you who do make a living out of comics.

I have no intention of stopping, I just know that as of right now, I don't think I could handle the demand of a professional career in comics :)

bijarts
January 8th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Hi dechanique!

I am currently doing my art therapy graduate work at Naropa University in Boulder, CO. Bringing in the interests of concept design/ illustration, digital art, and animation/ film into the profession along with being a Male has been an interesting journey to say the least;) I would recommend the program in regards to being very studio based compared to more psychoanalytically based programs. I heard SVA, NYU, and George Washington are all good programs as well.

Miami offers no art therapy graduate programs, that I am aware of.


You might be interested in the FSU program if you want to stay in state:
http://www.fsu.edu/~are/pages/arttherapy/aboutus.html

The faculty includes David Gussak and Penny Orr who have done some really interesting research with art therapy and technology.

I would like to discuss more with you, if interested PM me!