hitchhiking the world of drawing (progress thread)

[antihero]

# 0 // Editorial

http://www.circum.ch/div/img/hitchhiker.jpg

Hitchhiking means walking along and trying to get somewhere. The Road is long and winded and it's really hard to reach the point you're heading for. But sometimes there are some cars passing you by and if the drivers are willed to take you with em, you're gonna move forward much faster...
ehem. So that's what i'm gonna do. I want to draw at least one picture per day. I'm gonna put up my results steady into this thread. Comments and critics (even more) are allways welcome. Feel free to tell me what you really think about the pictures, and how i can increase my skills. This is how you can give me a hike... (does this make sense ?)

I draw since some months. I didn't draw very much last days because i had my final examinations. You can see the "old" stuff i did on my website circum.ch (http://www.circum.ch/sitehtml) by clicking on "portfolio".

antihero

[antihero]

# 1

I have drawn a lot last days (thank mcm! :) )a nd this is a first dump of the pictures i made...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/bottle.jpg
A bottle i drew in the train.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait.jpg
self-portrait. done by using a mirror.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mirrored.jpg
not that great. it took me about 20 minutes.

as i said... feel free to write comments to this.

There are also two sketchpages i did. I don't want to post them in here because they are really large.. You can see them by clicking on the links below.
sketchpage 01 (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage01.jpg)
sketchpage 02 (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage02.jpg)

[amphex]

not loading for me..

[thomasaurus]

me neither

[I.was.ink]

or me

[antihero]

# 2

The pictures should work again... if not, maybe hitting "Ctrl + F5" helps...

So heres the new stuff:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/chair.jpg
A chair in front of our house.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skull02.jpg
A quick sketch of a skull i made this afternoon. (reverence used)

I made some skull- and hand-sketches too. You can see them on this sketchpage03 (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage03.jpg).

antihero

//EDIT: finally ordered a wacom yesterday :clapping2

[antihero]

almost forgot these ones:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skull03.jpg
i made a lot of skulls yesterday.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skull04.jpg
Another skull... different perspective. I really have to draw with different perspectives because i allways tend to use the front- or profile view...

antihero

[amphex]

When doing self portraits, or drawing anything for that matter, try to look at what you actually see, not what youve been used to interpreting it as. For example, eyes do not look like that, and your proportions seem to be very off. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get some Loomis books, and read them, and practice what he says! - http://www.fineart.sk

The first skull is very nice, you should do more of those, as you said, from different angles. Also, I checked out your sketch book pages, and that stuff is looking good. Do a bunch more hand sketches, as well as a bunch more of those sphere shadings. The hand sketches are looking real good so far.
Look at what MCM has done throughout his entire thread, that is always helpful to me when I cant decide what to go through and draw in my sketchbook today =).

Though I pretend to be, Im nothing more than a beginner like you, Im just trying to convey some things Ive learned so far.
Keep it up!!!

[antihero]

# 3

thank you amphex for commenting. I think i'm gonna get a loomis. :)

I really hadn't much time today so i made those two picks some minutes ago.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/back.jpg
Some shaded back of a girl i think. Done by using a reference. mcm would say "lack of detail" and i think he's right.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/hands04.jpg
This one was done holding one hand next to a lamp while drawing with the other what i saw (sounds terrible, but i think you'll get the point). My hand started to ake and the shadows may be a bit wrong. Don't worry about the smallest finger, it is correct that way. :)

antihero

[golgari]

hmm, i'd take a closer look at the index finger... i think he's getting to thin towards the end.
other than that, those latest sketches look great - very crisp & clear. i like the simplicistic approach you used in doing the shadows of that hand...

[amphex]

Keep it up man, do some more self portraits!
Regarding the back of the girl...did her elbow really look like that? if not, thats just proof that you should really draw WHAT YOU SEE. If the girl just had a really wierd elbow, then..still..lol, draw what you see =).

[antihero]

#4

well... here we go again.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skull005.jpg
Another Skull thing i did during lunchtime. Not lookin too good, but i used a different angle so it's what i've got to work at...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body.jpg
This is a _very_ rough body sketch and it looks somehow very wrong.

I'm gonna try to do a better one this evening...
Hmm... Lookin at those two pics it was a really crappy day. But i think things just weren't that well. i was told that i probably failed in my final examination... So that didn't really encourage me. tomorow has to be better.

//EDIT: sorry, i almost forgot that:
@amphey: thanks again. i'm gonna do more selfportraits... but i hadn't much time these days so i only drew during lunchtime. (the ellbow was different... 2:0 for you :) )

@golgari: thanks for commenting. and: yeah, you're probably right with the index finger... :) i messed it up.

antihero

[MindCandyMan]

keep your momentum up antihero...keep pushing. Good work. :chug:

[antihero]

# 5

Thanks mcm! Erhm. I think... you said something... nice. Ehm. Actually i don't really get the point in your sentence... :) Sorry for that, it's just that englisch is not my native language... A small explanaition would be nice... ;)

OK. Lets go again.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body-sketches.jpg
I made those without reverence and they look very off. But it was fun to do them. And beneath improving skills and learning techniques drawing should allways be fun (IMHO).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/running.jpg
I kinda like this one. The arm looks a bit weird and the leg looks also a bit wrong. Has anyone some good "Armtutorial"? I think that would be very helpfull because it looks like i allways mess up the arms.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body002.jpg
I weird mix of simplistic elements (head to waist + arms) and a sketchy pair of legs.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/car.jpg
Hmm. This one looks not too good, but i realized that it is important for me to work at my "Life"-Drawing. I'm not that bad at copying pictures or photos. But if i have to copy some real Object i'm really getting into serious problems. Perspective might be also a good thing to work at.

So that's it. I made another sketchpage (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage004.jpg) which takes a little longer to load.

Comments and Critics very welcome.

antihero

PS: @amphex: Don't say "Draw what you see." , i'm really trying to... :)

[golgari]

considering that you drew this right out of mind, they're not thaaat bad...and you're damn right, fun is always an important part of it. where would be the point of learning everything when you never can enjoy it?
i'd say the upper bodies of your three sketches look quite right...that running figure is also quite good, although you're right, the arms don't look that good. i'd say his left arm is a little too short, but i'm not that good in anatomy, either.
i think either his head or his legs are also a little bit off.
the head looks like he's running directly to the left, the legs look like he's running a bit "into" the picture

by the way, concerning the momentum... not really easy to explain - in german it would be "schwung"...if that's helping you any further. it's basically the force which keeps a ball rolling after you kicked it or which keeps a swing swinging while you're sitting on it. i think what mcm wanted to say was basically...keep on rolling! ;)

[amphex]

No arm tutorial for you! (soup nazi anyone??)
Get a good anatomy book!
I just ordered bridgman's guide to anatomy I think its called..check it out on amazon.com

[antihero]

# 6

I think amphex is gonna love me... ;) I did some more selfportraits yesterday, late at night. Here we go:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait002.jpg
The form is a bit off. Maybe because i realized too late that i didn't allways place the head in the same position and angle... Not really an excuse, but the light was also weird... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait003.jpg
Mhm. This one has less details but is more correct in it's form i think. A combination of those two pics maybe would be quite near to reality.

Well... I also did some studies about the human arm (with reference). Here they are:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/arm002.jpg
I started with a simplified look at the arm, tried a shaded version and so on. The bottom part looks a little small and weird. i'm gonna work at it.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/arm003.jpg
Same tactics, different angle.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body003.jpg
I made this one after the arm studies and the overall look seems not too bad. i didn't use any reference. The arms are still not too great.

So finally, here's the big deal... I made them during my lunchtime today and i'm quite satisfied because it seems like this is probably a first improvement. I allready told you that i'm having serious problems when drawing some real/3D Objects or environment. So here we go...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/car002.jpg
This is an ambulance (i work at a hospital). After i finished the sketch they drove away. the sketch probably took me about 15 min.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/environment.jpg
This is a small place at our hospital. I hardly tried to draw what i saw and it seems to work...

@golgari: thanks for the explanation, i think i get the point. :) Thanks for the critics as well, i really appreciate that, and i'm glad that you took the time to point out some mistakes in my work.

@amphex: your advice seemingly worked well... (draw what you see) ;) thanks again!

I'm very interested in what you guys think about those last ones...

antihero

[golgari]

hey antihero...
hmm, when i'm looking at your selfportraits, i'm getting the feeling they're kind of rushed. how long did you work on one? maybe try taking more time to do a drawing at this point.
definately take a closer look at the lips, there's much more volume to them. think of them as shapes and not as just two lines. generally, i'd say, spend a little more time to find out where your face areas are darker and where they are lighter, since that way you're able to render the headshape. for example, the nose distinguishes itself from the rest of the head mostly by different shadow levels, only sparely by real conture lines. in your second picture, the space between nose and chin is way too long...maybe try measuring a little bit while you draw? you know, using your pen to look what relationships in your face are the same (for example, usually the space from eyes to the top of the head is about the same like from the eyes to the end of the chin) and then drawing it.
the drawings from reference look quite good.
the car isn't bad either...although one can probably see too much of the right lamp...i think it should be more slim, cut off faster.
the place seems a little bit symbol-loaden. (the leaves or the branch, for example). maybe really try first to only draw contours...and to only draw what you really see! also, maybe try to define things via their negative shapes. that's helping me a lot of the time when i'm drawing something from life.
keep on going! :)

[amphex]

keep it up!!

i think its obvious that your much more used to drawing from photos than from life. You need to work more on life!
Im sure you can tell that those sps neither look like you, or like any human for that matter ;). Really look at yourself. Practice drawing individual parts of your face and make it as detailed as possible.
For example, just draw an eye, or just draw your lips.
Then get the proportions down (http://www.gameartworks.com/LoomisBooks/heads/page_01.htm) and put it all together while really studying what makes you..well..you =P.

Your doin good, I like those arm studies alot =)

[antihero]

Hello you guys,

just wanted to thank for the comments from amphex and golgari. You guys are helping me a lot!
I really wanted to post yesterday, but there are a lot of things to do in these days. I finished my apprenticeship some days ago, and yesterday i received my diploma and we surely celebrated that. So i came home very late and i really could not do any more scans or uploads... :)

The pictures will follow this afternoon. :)

antihero

[gooch]

The drawing with the 3 arms in it (second set of arm drawings) , the one to the left looks great.

The landscape sketch also looks great, gives a good sense of actually being there.

keep at it. maybe someday ill get the guts to post my drawings like you and mcm. =p

Gooch

[MindCandyMan]

I"m with gooch...definitely keep thinking structurally like that...it will help a lot.

[antihero]

#7

Thanks for the positive feedback, gooch & mcm!
@mcm - have you received my latest email? just need to say yes or no...

@gooch - hope you will... For me it helps a lot to get some feedback from guys who know what they are talking about. And it also helps me to keep on drawing every day.

Here is a Collage of my recent sketches. As i said, lot of other things going on, so i haven't had much time for drawing. Yesterday about one hour, which i spent on drawing thousand of sketches with human bodies in various positions and angles. I wanted to get a better feeling for the human body as a whole object, not only parts of it. I drew without any reference. Here they are:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/bodies005.jpg
Some bodys...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/humans01.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/jumpnrun.jpg
I really like the one above. The long leg looks wrong, but the running figure as a whole does not work that bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/centurio.jpg
Wanted to practise some arms, and this is one of em.

c&c welcome as allways.

antihero

PS: my wacom will arrive monday morning at home... :beer:

[Avetice]

that last one is pretty good, I just wanted to give you something to keep in mind as you draw the figure. Remember that the human figure has body fat and it has a weight to it. Just imagine the skin as a blanket thats covering the muscles and the muscles are not not set in stone as to their form.
Example is when you flex your muscles show more definition.
You should do some drapery studies with the drapery covering some objects like a bowling ball or a number of objects. The drapery will begin to take the shape of whats underneath it, and thats basically what the skin does.

[antihero]

# 8

back on track...

@avetice: thanks a lot, i'm gonna do some of those "drapery"-studies in future. Thanks for mentioning!

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/face.jpg
A quick sketch of an eye and some face... Not too good, i made some more, but i've lost the sheet. Maybe i'll put them up tomorow.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mans-body.jpg
I spent most of the time drawing on this one. I used a reference and tried to draw a muscle-view and a skin-view.

perspective (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/prespective.jpg)
I also did a Perspective thing, nothing special.

bye for now...
Feel free to comment.

antihero

[golgari]

those body sketches are quite good. especially the arm study on the last one and the broken down person right above it manage to convey the pose pretty well. the arms on the runner on the same page are pretty good, too, the runner's left leg is much too high...and his ass is to thin ;)
those studies are good, too, especially the ones with skin. i don't think that it's important for an artist to know that latin-muscle-names-stuff. but if you like it.... ;)

[antihero]

@golgari - thanks and... i had only a profile-view sheet with those muscle names, i copied the names on a simplified sketch to just get some overview... Maybe just a waste of time... i didn't cut it after scanning because i hoped to get some attention from you guys for my latin skills... :D not really.

antihero

[antihero]

# 9

Oh my... :(
I did not do anything interesting today. Actually i only made about 3 Pages full with stupid sketches... Sort of an unmotivated sunday...

sketchpage (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage005.jpg)

so hmm..
You don't need to comment today, i know they suck. ;9

antihero

[antihero]

# 10

Hey y'all,

Here are my latest sketches. They are all very rushed so please have mercy. I received my wacom today and i'm still trying to get along with it...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/killingpeople.jpg
Ok, this one is for killing.people. I just wanted to say that you nickname rocks... :) I like the picture, even though it's very rushed and sketchy.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/meteor.jpg
I don't like it very much but the crash looks not too bad. The clouds don't look very great.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/FACE002.JPG
antihero proudly presents. The first thing done with my new grafic tablet. :)
//Seems like there's a mistake in the picture. It only loads half for me. I gonna fix it tomorrow.

So, more stuff to come soon. Critics and Comments welcome again!

antihero

[golgari]

hey antihero...
i like that fightingscene-sketch aswell - i think it captures the dynamic pose very well...
the crash...mhhm...at first i didn't recognize it at all, to be honest - but now that you mention it...hm, i'd say you rushed it too much...should have taken yourself more time to do this, going a little bit into detail. also, for clouds, the outlines are waaay to hard.
that wacom-sketch's not my favorite, too...the nose looks pretty strange, and i think the left eye stands out too far.
anyway, keep going, your figure drawing is doing great! :)

[antihero]

@golgari: at least you're honest... :) nono, I agree with you on the meteor and wacom sketches. Actually i just wanted to tell you, that my wacom has finally arrived, i've been waiting for a long time... :)

However, i made some sketches yesterday evening, better than the face & meteor things. I'm gonna post those ones in this evening, when i'm home.

antihero

PS: golgari, I nearly forgot to thank you for the constant critic and comment output!
PPS: i wanna get rid of this "Concept Art Groupie" title... :)

[amphex]

Ooh..your stuff is looking good =)
I love that chest/back study..awesome stuff.
The killing.people tribute is cool as hell as well =D.

keep it up keep it up keep it up.

WHERE ARE MORE SELF PORTRAITS??

[MindCandyMan]

those anatomy studies are looking good man. I would definitely do more of those.

[antihero]

# 11

@ mcm: thanks, i'm gonna do more of em! And the mastes copies of course... :)
@ amphex: thanks and... here we go with another self-portrait. :) I thought you would like it...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/landscape002.jpg
not really good, but i had to test Painter & Wacom. I think the clouds don't look that bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/profile-view.jpg
A simple sketch try some head & neck thing together.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body004.jpg
Another one of those body studies.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait004.jpg
And finally... The newest Self Portrait. I tried to really take some time to "finish" this one. And whether you belibe it or not, this stinkhead above really looks like me!

Thanks again for every critic! I really appreciate all the feedback from you guys!

antihero

PS. some more wacom stuff is right about to come... but i've allready got some problems with the driver, so right now it is just messed up... :(

[golgari]

these ones are much better! :)
i don't like the wacom-stuff all too much, but it's nice to see you thought of the shadow of the tree...that looks quite good.
the head and neck thing looks really great. maybe his forehead is a little bit short, but considering the pose (i guess he's supposed to be tilting his head a little, right?), it should be roughly right. well done...that contour-look of a face is a pretty hard thing to master, i think.
that body study also looks good, once again. your self-portrait is also a huge improvement over your other ones. it's still lacking a little bit depth, though. maybe try to work with contrasts a little bit stronger (more white & black areas instead of so much grey. exaggerate a bit ;) )
also, do you really have such a broad chin? and is there really so much space between the end of the eyes and the beginning of the ear? keep on doing some more of these, i really see improvement :)

[antihero]

# 12

@ golgari
thanks a lot, you've got good eyes.. The things you mentioned about the selfportrait are correct. Maybe i'll do another one tonight.
Thanks as well for the encouragement!

Here are the "new" ones...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body005.jpg
This one should be another body study but it turned out quite crappy... seems like the lines are too strong and clear.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body006.jpg
I used no reference to do this one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/face002.jpg
haven't used a reference...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/nose.jpg
Haven't used a reference as well. Tried to do some noses.

Now for some more wacom stuff...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skeleton001.jpg
I quickly sketched it yesterday. without reference.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body007.jpg
Not too good. The back part of her Head looks very off.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/cup.jpg
I tried to draw some kind of a... how do you call that? in german it is "becher".

So, thanks for every critic and comment on these ones and good night... ;)

antihero

[MindCandyMan]

Great studies man...the second anatomy study is really good. Shows some understanding of the muscle masses. For the time being I would recommend measuring everything out anatomically. For instance on the face...the eyes are halfway down the head...the nose is halfway between the eyes and the chin...and the mouth halfway between the nose and chin. Measure this way for the whole body and do it over and over until it becomes second nature. That will help tremendously. The woman is out of proportion and so are the faces....measure as much as you can...especially in the beginning. Also with the cup and the shadow be careful of falling into the trap of generalizing too much. Shadows are never one color. They are actually a myriad of colors. Look hard next time when you are painting from life and observe the shadows and how the reflected light makes some parts of the shadow lighter. One key fact to know is that the shadow is darkest where it is closest to the object actually casting it. So right next to the bottom of the cup would be really dark...but the further away from the cup the shadow goes the less "harsh" it will be. Keep it up bud.

[golgari]

actually, i like that body study aswell, i think the lines - except maybe the endings of the arms - fit very well.
you let it get a bit too slim at the bottom, though.
your body movement, without the references is pretty good, i'd say...maybe try checking some more masses (the head, the lower arm) the degree of the nose-line is a little bit too low, i'd say. not sure here though, but something's strange about it...
the english word for becher is cup, i think :)

[antihero]

# 13

Let's post some more... :)

@ golgari: thanks a lot you're probably right about this mass-thing. I'm gonna have an eye on that...

@ mcm: thanks a lot. Read below the pictures some more about this proportional stuff.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body008.jpg
This is the womens-body-sketch. The right part of it quite sucks and the neck & head looks really weird.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body009.jpg
The man's body. The arm's are too small, the neck looks a bit weird but i like the torso. Spent quite some time on this one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/head.jpg
Some kind of girl looking to the top. Rushed over, to make it short.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions.jpg
Some Proportion Studies i made some minutes ago.


ok. Time to have short look back. When i look at what i made before startin this thread, i'm really glad that i actually started it. The improvement is not too big, but i think at least it _is_.
Today i've gotten a Bammes book and i would like to get back some steps (not really, read further ;)). Doing human muscle studies is great but i think the figures i drew mostly had a weak proportion and were lacking of deeper knowledge of muscles (does this, grammaticaly i mean, make sense?). So i decided to go back to Proportions and start with some easier studies, but with trying to really understand em, nut just copying as i sometimes did in the past. So in future i'd like to do some simplified body studies combined with selfportraits, they're a good practice for a lot of things (as amphex said :D ). And maybe i'm finally gonna try some serious master copies (as mcm said :) ).
Beneath those more "serious" things, to make it not too boring, i'll surely go on, doing a lot of sketches of things crossing my mind.
Erhm. Maybe this is just blabla. But i really have the feeling of needing a defined direction, sort of what i want to head for.

Thanks for reading my nonsense and maybe doing a comment on the pics or the thoughts!

Have a nice evening!

antihero

[golgari]

the proportions of that first woman don't make that great sense to me, but that doesn't matter at all, because the picture has another great appeal - it captures the movement very good. although it hasn't really the form of a gesture sketch, i'd say it is one...
the man's torso looks pretty good. his right arm is also alright, the left...yeah, like you said, a little thin and his neck looks indeed weird.
that girl looking to the top, though it may be rushed, looks pretty good, i'd say. that circle in the middle of her neck is a little strange though...doesn't fit in with the flow of the rest of the neck - what's it supposed to be?
in your proportion sketch the breasts look a little strange. i'd say the nipples should be a bit lower, and the line for the chest should be drawn even more low...not sure here, though, since the sketch's pretty simplified :)

your thoughts about what direction you want to go sound good :)

[antihero]

# 14

Thanks again for all the replies you guys wrote! it rocks to get a feedback on what i'm doing! Thank you very much, if you're heading for switzerland maybe you'll get a free beer... ;)

So let's go again.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions001.jpg
Let's start with the "important" thing. I made this thing yesterday evening and i don't know if i should laugh or cry... Laughing is the better choice i think. I really tried to _just_ copy what i saw in the Bammes book but... yeah, you can see for yourself. I'm gonna do antoher one tonight...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait005.jpg
Ok, i decided to do a selfportrait once again. This time i used a pen and it turned out not that bad i'd say. I messed it up at the end when trying to give it some more contrast. Now it looks more... loose.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed.jpg
ok. I tried a different angle and it seemed to work out interesting... then i went to my nose... and totally screwed it up! oh my... i'll give it another try...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/shading001.jpg
Oh... i feel sorry for putting it up... I tried to do some drapery thing or at least some shading but it looks horrible...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/browneyes.jpg
I really had to put up this one. I tried some eyes and somehow i got reminded of the "brown eyed girl" song. Lagwagon that a cover i would die for. Only wanted to share... ;)

Here is another Sketchpage
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage006.jpg

more art, less talk... i defintely have to learn about that one... :)

feel free to push me some levels down or lift me up when giving sort of a critic!

antihero

[antihero]

# 15

Here we go, i made some more Proportion Studies from the Bammes Book:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions003.jpg
This one seems a bit messed. i tried to combine the back & front view but it sucks. The front view seems a bit better thatn the last one i did, but still not great.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions002.jpg
Some mistakes in both of the figures but the proportions fit this time pretty good.

I started my first Master Copy and.. oh... it... just... ehm... sucks hard.

I'm gonna post it in some days because i've got the link to the original only at work... and without the original it's hard to compare... :)

I made some more Wacom & Painter Tryouts and here is one of them.

Some sketches of the creature i made... they're not too good but the idea should be visible. I tried to do some combination of a snake & turtle thing.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/turtle-sketch.jpg

So here's the result from Painter
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/turtle.jpg

I'm gonna do another one of this with some more ideas behind it. Right now i think the creature would die very fast because it can only move slow and is very... harmless... ;)

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

Your proportion studies are getting better. You should just keep doing them until you can do it from memory.... hey, so should I! anyway, keep on goin man.

[antihero]

# 16

@ Jeff Gran: Thank you man... :)

Here are some Sketches i made today.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/labello.jpg
Tried to do some halfway realistic shading...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/redbull.jpg
Well this is a Redbull i tried to draw.

I also made another Proportion Study because the past ones don't seem to _really_ fit. So i took the Bammes thing i made another Copy. I made a grid in which i pasted the body. this time it really seems to work. I like this one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions004.jpg

I also made another Selfportrait. I tried to use a different angle and do some more shading but it seems "a bit" mesed up.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait006.jpg

I also worked on my turtle thing... Here is a sketch of it:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/turtle004.jpg
I really like it even if it is veery loose and sketchy. The idea behind it is, that the teeths of this creature are very small, also it's mouth is not very strong. The fins are a bit small to move very fast with the huge shield on his back. So i had the idea to stick a scorpio's tail to my turtle so it can hide silently and wait for a portion of food to come it's way... Not sure if it would really work, in the upper left corner there is a sketch of the creature waiting for food.

So that's it folks!
I will not post tomorrow because i've got to help a friend with it's computer in the evening. But i will surely draw and you'll see the results a day later...

Leave comments and critics in this thread if you want to.

antihero

[golgari]

hmm, i don't know the bammes book (yet...my art teacher has promised me to bring her copy of it to school tomorrow, so that i can take a look at it and decide if i'll acquire it), but those chests look a little strange...at least in the first sketches. they got better, the last one looks quite promising.
still, his breast is a little too small for the rest of the body, i'd say...those skeleton sketches are great.
your selfportraits are improving, too. especially like the pen ones. in the last portrait you drew your face contours seem a little bit small again, though. i don't know if maybe your face is really like that, but i've got the feeling that the head around your direct face contours (brows, eyes, nose, mouth) always tends to get a little bit too large

[antihero]

#17 - Master Copy

@golgari: Are you sure about the breast size? I really worked on this for a long time and i even measured it out of the Book... I screwed them up for three times because i also thought that they're bigger, but i decided to draw "what i see" and not what i expect them to be...Confusing. It is, of course, only a "normal" body, not much muscles. However, i'm gonna have a look at it, maybe i'm wrong again. Thanks for the encouragment and you're probably right with the head size... :)

So as i said, no "new" stuff from me today but i found the master copy in my Bookmark Folder. Here we go.

Original (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/gamekeeper.jpg)

So... and... ehrm. Here is the first try. To me it just feels like this is one or maybe two numbers too big for me. I just tried to make some outlines to get a basic overview about what is located where. But it looks sooooo off. I tried to give some details to the gamekeeper's (Can anyone say what a Gamekeeper is?) Backpack but it really looks bad... Hmmm... What do you think? Maybe i should just wait some days/weeks and then try it again? Maybe i should go trough it even if it is hard? Maybe i just chose the wrong picture? Maybe i used the wrong brushes? ... etc.

Anyway, here it is:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/gatekeeper001.jpg

By the way; Is there any tutorial or basic FAQ about general Mistakes, Do's and Dont's when copying a Masters Piece? Wanna write about your experiences? I would be glad to hear something about it... :)

Oh... someone once wrote something about defining things more with their negatice space... And yesterday i just realized what that means... Thanks for the advice, this probably is one of my very basic "mistakes"!

antihero

[MindCandyMan]

That master's copy is coming along nice antihero...my only suggestion for master's copies is make sure you are patient and scrutinize every brushstroke and think about "why" they did what they did...learn from their technique so you can use it later on down the line. Always keep thinking when doing it. Keep it up bud.

[golgari]

hmm, it just looked like it's too small to me...although the position of the nipples is perfectly right...you measured them in all directions? maybe they're just not broad enough...
maybe it's also just me who's wrong. i'm not that much an expert in anatomy, too ;)
also, you're drawing the actual breasts, and not the muscles for the breast, am i right? because the breast muscles are indeed smaller than the actual breast...
that master copy is going in the right direction...i don't know, i don't know that much about doing these, but personally, i thought they are only helpful if you want to learn something by doing them. so you should maybe do something related to your actual focus point? (ie anatomy?)...i don't know, i think this picture would be great for learning about using soft colours, but if you don't want to improve your colour use, maybe it's better to choose another one?
just a thought...

[antihero]

# 18 - Proportions & Figures

@ mcm: two things: first, your optimism is overwhelming... Can't see what in this picture is "coming along good", but thanks either way... :9 And... i saw an old Woman today... Guess what Letters where on her handbag...? Yeees... "MCM"... :D :D

@ golgari: I think the breast really was not broad enough... but not much... :) However, thanks. Good thoughts about that "Master Copy thing"... I think that would make more sense.. I'm gonna think about it... What do the others think?

However. I was very frustrated yesterday because i could'nt draw anything... The sketches i made yesterday turned out real bad solet's have an eye on the today-stuff...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions005.jpg
Some proportion Studies. I did not use any reference.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions006.jpg
Again some Proportion Studies. No ref. Made them some minutes ago.

The following sketches were made during lunchtime without any reference straight out of mind.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body010.jpg
I drew him over another drawing that's why his breast and the upper part of his torso might look a bit weird. Quite contented with this one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body011.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body012.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body013.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body014.jpg

Less talk more art... :)

antihero

[golgari]

good work today!
the "skinned" ones on the first page still look a little strange, but the skeletons look very good. your feeling for poses is pretty good - especially the last page (the woman) has a very dramatical pose - but the other ones work very well, too...

[Jeff Gran]

wow I really like those last few...the poses you made up. very good for coming out of your head. It looks like the proportion studies are really helping.

[antihero]

# 19 - Bodies & Negative Space

Thanks both golgari & Jeff, it's good to get some encouragement!

Hmmm i tried two selfportraits yesterday but i ended up with a medium life crisis because they turned out... to be frank, crappy. I wont post em with the IMG Tags because you shouldn't look at them, if there is someone who is interested anyways heres the link:

can cause serious health problems (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed001.jpg)
get some safety glasses before looking at this... (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed002.jpg)

However. Here's the rest:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/negspace.jpg
I tried to copy a photo to try the "negative space" thing. The head/face sucks.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/negspace001.jpg
The same environment as some posts earlier. I had to draw fast because lunch time was ending...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/cross.jpg
Tried to do some guy hanging on that cross. Tried to include some basic perspective things.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/nakedmage.jpg
This one shows a... naked mage... :)
I drew a body and realized that the pose looks like he... hanging in the air and it reminded me of some kind of a mage, reloading it's fire forces... moments before detonation, something like that. The pic also reminds me that i should start to sometimes draw bodies _with_ clothes on em... we'll see.

That's it...
two question you could maybe answer me:
1. What is this "eatpoo" vs, "conceptart" thing about? I've read several posts with "die eatpoo'ers" & co stuff but couldn't find a clue about how this war started... May anyone give some hints?
2. With what brushes/settings do you paint in painter? There is whole load of brushes but i can't really figure out what's best... Some Suggestions anyone?

Would be great to get an answer on those questions. Thanks! Oh, and critics are still very welcome... :)

antihero

[golgari]

the environment looks a little better, i think. more generalized, not so symbol-loaden...
your second self-portrait goes in the right direction, i'd say. you need to take a closer look at the shadows on the face, which imply the shapes that lie underneath the skin. for example, the eyes usually lie in a kind of "eyehole" in the skull, therefore there are usually shadows around the eyes. the shape around the eye is kind of "bulgy"...
also, the lips are "higher" than the chin, therefore there often is a shadow under the lips...take a look at things like that.
your figures, like always, are quite good. don't stop practicising them, though! :)

[antihero]

# 20 - figures, a selfportrait and some color :party:

@golgari: thanks a lot, you're the man! Do you never get tired replying to this thread? However, i really appreciate it!

Here we go!

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait006-full.jpg
I made another selfportait to practice the shade thing. Below the nose it starts to get weird. The upper (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait006-half.jpg) part of the face looks not too bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions007.jpg
Some more proportion studies, without reference.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body015.jpg
Another body. I tied to draw the arm round the bones which i made first. Maybe a bit too long.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mage001.jpg
Made another sketch about this mage i posted in my last thread. here he is, with clothes.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/fighter001.jpg
Again the mage, digitaly painted. First the body...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/fighter002.jpg
...Then a clothing sketch laid over the body sketch...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/fighter003.jpg
...and finally an attempt on coloring it.

Hope you enjoyed this "anniversary" post and as allways, leave your notices after the beep". ---------*

antihero

[golgari]

well, it's a give-and-take thing :)

your selfportrait is a little better.
i think you need to spend more time observing, though.
for example, your ear is much too high. and there should be less space between the right eye and the nose - or the right side of the nose needs to be shaded more - at the moment, the nose is looking much too broad on the eyelevel.
the bodysketches are very good...the clothes...hmm, the ones on the first picture are too independent from the body, i'd say, they make it look a little flat. the ones on the second picture are much better. the coloured version lacks depth again, though - because you didn't really shade that much.

[antihero]

# 21 - face & sketches

@ golgari: cool that you seem to be practizing and not only talking about these wise words. hats off.

So today... ehrm... today.. it was my last day on work because i'm heading for holidays now. I was late yesterday so i am very tired. Here's the outcome anyway.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/environment002.jpg
Another environment thing. Different perspective, but very unfinished.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skeleton002.jpg
a quick & loose skeleton sketch. made some more, not worth being posted.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mageface.jpg
A quick sketch of a mage's face. Painter.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mageface005.jpg
Same mage's face. Coloured. Not really finished but i think it's one of the better faces i made until now... no ref used.

So that's a weak post. However, i will try do work with more patience because that's what i'm generally acking of... :(

antihero

[golgari]

the pose of that skeleton is good. his head looks pretty weird, though.
the first sketch of that mage's face doesn't look all too bad - the second is worse, though. you kind of lost the 3dimensional feel of the first one because of the colouring (especially concerning the forehead) - you need to use more tones! don't be afraid to leave white areas :)
also, he has got a VERY slim face and a very huge nose...
think of the fact that the nose between the eyes usually is more of a bridge between the nosetip and the forehead...it's pretty steep from there down to the eyes, so there need to be hard shadows...usually.

[antihero]

# 22 - proportions & selfportrait

@ golgari: you'r right. :( The face _is_ slim. The nose _is_ big, and the second _one_ is worse. Need to work on faces... :\

However, here is the today-stuff. I tried to do some more quality than just quantity.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait007.jpg
The latest selfportrait. I really tried to be patient and look at what i draw... to me it looks a lot better than the last one, though there is still a lot to improve... (mouth, nose to mention the obvious ones)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions008.jpg
Made them this afternoon. I think the skeletons are ok for now, i've still got to work on those skin-proportion studies, do some women proportion-studies and then, i'll move along to the individual parts of the human body.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body016.jpg
Made some front-, profile- and backview of the skinproportions. They don't seem too bad, but the last two look rushed over (in fact they _are_ rushed over) and somehow a bit off. As i said, i'm gonna do some more tomorrow and then have a look at womens proportions.


antihero

[golgari]

the self portrait is much better this time - that patience paid off! :) the skeletons are indeed very good, like most of your skeletons...hmm, yeah, the skin ones might need a little bit more work...
by the way, what kind of pencil do you use? it may be a good idea to get a softer one, especially for things like the selfportrait, where shading is pretty important...

[antihero]

hello,

i wont post for the next 6 days. I'm going to spend some days in a holiday camp with kids. there wont be any time for drawing or just thinking about it, because it's a a full-time job. But after this vacation time, i'll be back for sure!

best wishes! :)

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

Great stuff man. Keep it up. I really like all the proportion stuff you're doing. They really show improvement. Your SPs are getting better too. On the last one, I think the eyes and nose show good observation, but the mouth still looks like you didn't "see" it. Next time don't draw the shape of the lips you see, draw the shapes of the shadows and highlights that define the lips. Then fill them in with the values you see and erase as necessary. Also I agree that a softer pencil would make the shading easier and would help you increase the contrast.

[antihero]

#23 - some stuff before getting sleep... :yawns:

@ golgari: thanks. i use: 6B and recently i did often use B, because i don't like very soft pencils, but you're probably right. I'm gonna try a 3B for the shading...

@ Jeff: thanks, i'll try to handle those shadows in the way you mentoined it... :)

ok. i'm back from holydays but still _very_ tired. However, i made those two pics some minutes ago.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skeletons001.jpg
Some more skeletons. I know i should work on the skin, but i've just been too tired to really concentrate.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/mage002.jpg
Some mage thing. Tried to work a bit more with neg Space to achieve an atmosphere...

antihero :yawns:

[golgari]

hey antihero...
had nice holidays? where have you been to? :)

good stuff. i like the way you used the negative space, makes the flamey hands indeed quite a lot more expressive.
maybe you should slowly start turning to a more textured or detailled look, since your poses are pretty good, i'd say.

[antihero]

#24 - angel & proportions & sketches

@golgari - yes, really nice holidays... :) I helped out in a childrens holiday camp and it was veery funny and of course also exhausting... ;) so i'm still trying to get some sleep i missed last week...
Thanks for the encouragement, i think i'm going to start with specific body parts in the next few days...

I just wanted to do some more proportion stuff because i'm still having problems to get the correct proportions down... Does anyone recommends a good book or online tutorial (cheaper :) )?

Thanks. Here's my today Stuff (used no reference at all):

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions010.jpg
as i said, i'm still having problems to do correct proportions. I made some more excercises but they're not that good.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/battlemage.jpg
I made this more as a sketch so the head looks really weird. i tried to give him some "tribal" tatoos... hum, not too good either,

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/angel001.jpg
Hey! my first angel! since i saw the angelpic from McM i really wanted to do an angel on my own. i made some sketches before but they turned out very crappy. Yesterday evening i started to scribble around and suddenly... this happend. lacking some detail, i know. :) But i'm starting to love negatice space... :D

ok, and i made another sketchpage (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage007.jpg). It was really funny, i wanted to do some skeletons and the first/big one turned out nice. After the big one i lost concentration and wrote "ain't no sunshine when she's gone" in a few different ways. Well... you dont _have to_ look at it... ;)

critics and comments appreciated... do i need to say that? :)

antihero

[golgari]

that angel is cool. i especially like his wings and his legs.
concerning your proportion sketches...do you think of the skeleton when you draw them? because your skeletons' proportion do look pretty good, i think. if you think of the skeleton as a basis and then just try to draw the skin which is put ontop of it, it shouldn't be that hard, should it?

i like that guy pointing on the no-sunshine-sign while saying "when she's gone"...hrhr...and yeah, that big skeleton guy isn't too bad either.
you're pretty good in doing foreshortened things out of imagination...how do you do this? any mysterious technique you could introduce me to? ;)

[antihero]

#25 - f r u s t r a t i o n got me

@golgari - thanks :) well it's a give and take thing so... yoga is the key! seriously, i barely know what foreshortening is. i heard it some times and read some posts where it was mentioned but i don't exactly know _what_ foreshortening is. Short explanaition, and maybe i can reveal my secrets... ;)

Today was kind of a bad day. the weather was somehow hot, even though it rained during the whole day. Drawing was like weather.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait008.jpg
I _hate_ it. i tried to do everything better and concentrated on shading and shading and shading and it started ok. then i changed an ear. then i corrected several mistakes somehow it tuned just pure 100% shit. however... i'm gonna try another one later on... made two more pages with sketches but the weather seems to hunt me down... :(

well (hopefully) after rain, the sun will shine again... :)

antihero

[MindCandyMan]

I am with you antihero...I know EXACTLY what you mean. I feel like that happens to all the stuff I do. I do the same thing as well...I write all over the pages to release my frustration. Keep trudging on ward you are improving that is for sure!

[endregan]

hey anti i like that battle mage but the head seems a bit odd. really cool stuff. what works for me is relaxing. frustration can occur and it does happen, we arent all perfect but its cool and just go with it :).

[golgari]

hmm, well...foreshortening (or "verkürzung", as it's called in german) is the effect that when you put 3-dimensional objects in 2 dimensions (which is exactly what you do when drawing), they get bigger the closer they are to you and they do cover up things behind them. for example, if you draw someone who's holding his head right in front of your head, you draw a pretty big hand and probably you draw nothing of the arm behind it (because it's covered up by the hand). uhm. don't know if that explanation really helped, if not, ask! ;)
anyway, if i'm just drawing from life it's not thaaat hard to do foreshortened things, because you have it all right in front of you. but when doing things from imagination, i always get crazy doing it...

concerning your latest effort - don't worry. we all get frustrated, periodically. i think i had my last down-phase only one or 2 days ago. i hope my motivation keeps climbing up now and doesn't sink down again tomorrow...
and yeah, the problem about the whole thing of paying really close attention while drawing from life is that you usually also need more time to do this, and often it's hard to keep in the same pose for so long. it happens to me all the time, too - i change my pose without noticing it, then i check back with my drawing, think that i made a fault, change something, it doesn't look right, i change the next thing and so i keep going over my whole drawing, thinking all i drew before was wrong, when in reality it just was a different pose - which is really frustrating...
the first face doesn't look all too bad, though. at least one can make out some improvements. the shading around the eyes gets better. you just need a little more contrast...don't be afraid to put down really dark tones, blacken it! ;)

[Jeff Gran]

Hey I agree with golgari...You're seeing things. better. I like the little reflected light you caught on the left side with your eraser. Also, I agree that you need more contrast. Just a small tip, I don't know if you already do, but for me it helps to shade with the side of my pencil instead of the tip, and hold it way back at the back of the pencil.

[antihero]

#26 - figures, figures, figures and... oh well... figures

@all - thanks a lot for every line of encouragement! This helps a lot!

I will specificly answer to your posts in two days, i wont post again before because i need some time for drawing (posting takes a lot of time ;) ) and have several other things to manage, so i'll be back in 2 days. :)

Thanks to golgari, he gave me this advice to think with skeletons and draw in human forms with flesh, muscles and skin (don't forget their fat :) )... So, here is the first page i made with this in my mind. Maybe you can only see a big huge mess, but i have the feeling that i'm getting closer to what i'm longin for... There are still several mistakes but they were all done veeeeery fast and without reference.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions011.jpg

i made some more of them but lookin at it would not help you a lot... :)

I'll be back for sure! Only away to search a piece of improvement, willing to join me... ;)

antihero

PS: thanks again for your comments, feel free to not post until i have posted the new ones... i think for now, i know what i have to work at... (my english ;) )

[antihero]

#27 - had some problems "figuring" it out... :)

Sooo... well, here i am again. First some answers:

@MCM: Thanks a lot! I think one of the hardest things in drawing (life general?) is that you get accustomed to your own improvement rapidly. Hours after you realized that you improved, you allready start to get uncontented again with what you've done... But i think it's the only thing that can keep you on doing something constantly; not being contented with yourself.
//end rambling now

@endregan: yeah, relaxing works for me too... It's just hard to get back to work after relaxing, i'm sort of a lazy pile... :)

@golgari: thanks man! I think i understand what "foreshortening" is about... so i feel really sorry because there is no secret i could reveal about that (interested in a cindy crawford story? ;) )... Thanks again for your comments. More contrast would definitely be a good idea... I'm gonna try it.

@Jeff: Someone mentioned it (shading with the side of pencil) before but seems like i allways forgot that. Thanks man!

so, now everyone has it's answer let's have a look at my recent stuff. I didn't worked out as i planed. Nevermind, i think the theory is now clear... what i do need now is... practice, practice, practice, etc.

Anyway here's some of the interesting stuff i made (i won't post everything because i made a shitload full of sketches that won't interest you much... :) )

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions013.jpg
This is me practicing the proportions stuff, you can see some half-skeleton-half-body things. I made some more of these and they were really helpfull.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions014.jpg
Some more proportion stuff. Tried to just draw the body in different poses. Turned out... As you can see, i left some of the skeletons untouched, made some figures with the same poses on a different page, but they turned out bad :\

At Last, i made some more "Drawings" that took some more time to finish. I drew the bones first and layed flesh & muscles above it. Here we go:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/orcish-worshiper.jpg
Not too good and sort of rushed.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/bw-draw003.jpg
I like this one...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/bw-draw002.jpg
This one looks best to me, because i drew the whole body. It looks a bit too slim and there are some mistakes, but overall the result is acceptable.

Of course this stuff was all done without reference.

Thanks for taking the time to have a look at my stuff... Comments and Critics appreciated again.

antihero

[golgari]

looks good to me. using skeletons as a basis seems to work really well - the poses look good, the proportions seem right.
maybe now it might be interesting to look for the main muscle masses and add them ontop the skeleton. also, think of the volume! your last sketches all look very good & correct, but, at least for me, they somehow lack a little bit a sense of volume...always think about the fact that you're drawing solids here...

[endregan]

Cool I can see youre getting better at the body already, steadily improving. good work. :). Im currently goign through a bridgman book and the plane theory works really well, get to see how it all is formed in masses then can add detail once its understood. very good book :). keep at it man, i might have to start my own thread soon too !

[antihero]

# 28 - sketches

@golgari: Thanks and you're right. I'm gonna have an eye on that.

@endregan: Bridgeman seems to be a good book. Can you give the name of the one you're working with? Would be cool to see your work in a thread!

@admins: If you're reading this... maybe it would be a good idea to create a subforum in the "Life Drawing" Forum because there seem to be whole load of daily-threads now... For all the guys who really _do_ Life drawing it must be very hard to get spammed by Noobs... :) I've allready seen that you opened a "Daily Sketchbook" Section in the "Sketches" Board. Maybe moving our Threads in here would be agood idea... What do you think?

oh well. Was my last day in apprenticeship so i did not have a lot of time to draw. Anyway here's the page i made today:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage009.jpg
I tried to give the pictures some more contrast but after a while i started to just ramble around... :(

I'm gonna give it another try today (I need more patience again)...
sorry, that's all for today... :)

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

Ya, I've been thinking the same thing about moving these threads. We all copied MindCandyMan by putting them here, but it seems like they should be in the sketchbook section. I wonder if it's possible to move them there... Any moderators listening?

That minotaur looks like a good start. Not perfect but his head and chest look pretty solid. Some shading would perk him right up.

[endregan]

hey anti. the book name is Bridgman's Complete Guide to Drawing From Life. Amazing book, all of his books compiled, fully details with words and pictures, sketches etc. Very good and I am learning a lot about the body!

Your minotaur looks cool. youre using pen and inks right? I like it. keep at it

I made a daily sketchbook thread, got a couple scans in if you want to head over there and check me out. Seeya around

[antihero]

#29 - Master Copy

@Jeff - Thanks! I'm gonna PM a Mod about our Threads... Though i'm not glad to join the daily sketchbook board. It makes you feel like just another unimportant one posting daily sketches... but... actually that's what we really are. :)

@endregan: Thanks for the books name... Maybe i'll order it. oh well, and i saw your thread and replied (i think you noticed that on your own ;) ).

So here we go. I'm currently enjoying my Holidays and i had a bit mroe time to draw today. However, i decided to do something completely different again. Started to get bored because of just allways doing figures... And again and again and again...
So i picked a cool Frazetta Picture and tried to copy it. golgari once said that it would be cool to take one that benefits what i'm currently workin on, but i couldn't resist to take this one (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/frazetta_original.jpg). However, patience is also important so it will still be a good excercise.

Here we go. I made four steps to show how i worked. The first three steps are shown as small images, you can click em to get a bigger scaled version, if you're interested.

1. Step
I made some _very, very_ basic color background and laid a black sketch-layer above it. Tried to sketch the contures and some shades.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/01_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/01_big.jpg)

2. Step
Laid a more specific color-layer above the others. Used the sketch layer to place the colors.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/02_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/02_big.jpg)

3. Step
Started to paint the details. I chose the head to start. I moved the sketch Layer on top of the others to have a clear basic overview.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/03_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/03_big.jpg)

4. Step
So this is what i've done so far. Corrected the shoulder and added first details to his axe. Also corrected the eyes.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/04_big.jpg


I'm going to work some more on this one because it's really funny and i enjoy it... :)

antihero

PS: i worked with size 1200x1600 px in a 300dpi resolution. With this one, i used oils, most the "Flat"- and the "Detail"-Types. Should i go bigger next time or take a different tool?

[endregan]

nice i really like that pic its coming a long nicely. keep at it, dont stop now :) just keep on it!

[Jeff Gran]

Agreed, that looks awesome so far. I can't wait to see it finished. Makes me want to try one. Just remember-- don't copy for the sake of copying. Copy to learn why that artist did what he did (I'm sure you knew that already). Keep it up.

[antihero]

:happybirt #30 - Master Copy & SP

Thanks for the encouragement guys!
@Jeff: Yeah i knew that, but still a good advice because i tend to drift away (in thoughts) while drawing... ;)

I worked again on that Masters copy. I think Master Copies are a lot about Patience. :) Anyway, it was still fun. I worked on the axe and corrected some mistakes and worked a bit on the background...
Hmm, i think the axe still needs some work, especially the shaft.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/05_big.jpg

And i made another Selfportrait. I could puke about that last one... oh well, it does not "look" too bad. i mean, this is not completely different to my face. But the way i drew just absolutely sucks, i mean the "style". blabla. Don't know, these Sp's are a hard thing for me... Definitely got to work on that... :(

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait009.jpg

That's all folks.


antihero

[golgari]

hey antihero,
that master copy looks great so far. also, i think the frazetta pic is still better than that shepherd-picture, since it concentrates more on figures/volumes/anatomy and on contrast than on the feeling of special colours, so it might be suiting you a little bit better.
think of the horses feet, you don't have them planned at the moment at all. other than that, keep on going. also (as jeff already pointed out in a way), think of what frazetta wanted to picture instead of just copying colour areas. for example, in the background he wanted to create the thought of a fire, of something burning in the background. although you roughly noted some basic colours of his, they don't at at all remind me of a fire. think of that stuff....
your portraits are improving, keep at it. the contrast is already getting better. maybe think of the fact that in the face, you rarely see really "closed" shapes, it's all very fluently. your eyes and especially your brows still look much too "isolated" from the rest of the face...

[antihero]

#31 - Master Copy & some sketches (figures again ;) )

@golgari: you're right with the advantages of the frazetta-pic. Erhm... about the fire thing, i think i made those orange strokes only to keep in mind that this area has some different color in it... ;) But i _will_ think about what frazetta wanted to show... :)
Thanks for the face-comments, i'm gonna try another one later on...

So... today was kind of a good day for drawing. First i got really frustrated because the Sp i tried to do failed in a terrible sort of way. i made some more but they all lacked... patience. I wont post em because, as i said, they just lack patience and "draw-what-you-see". I'm gonna try more tomorow.
Then i worked again on the frazetta pic and it is still funny. After that, i went outside and sketched around and tried to work on my figures from imagination... Well here are the results.

(Again a small pic, click it to see the large one.)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/06_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/06_big.jpg)
I worked on the background, sketched the first bird and worked on the shield. The "bird-logo" took a lot of time, and i started to shade the bottom part, still needs a lot of work. Frazetta putted a lot of structure in ithe shield so it appears really used and has some buckles in it. The bird is not too good and i'm gonna repaint it because it is more a bird out of imagination than the one frazetta painted. :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage012.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage011.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage010.jpg
Figures, Figures, Figures... Some skeletons and some Muscle-Dudes... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/apple.jpg
I noticed that i diregarded the life-drawing part of my journey (only made SP's)... So here's an apple i painted today. It was really small (the pic is about 110% of its height) so the picture turned out small too (at least i drew what i saw... ;) ). sorry, i'm gonna do a bigger one tomorrow... ;)

Bye for now... :beam:

antihero

[golgari]

those frazetta pic is going a good way :)
pretty good basic shading, now you just need to experiment with highlights and shadows and to try to get that structure down. also i think the bird is quite good; don't know what's your problem with it :)
the figures are off here and there, but all in all they show your usual good dynamic pose...the apple looks good, too.
maybe a little bit more contrast and less "stroky-ness" would have been nice, but that's maybe just my personal taste ;)

[endregan]

hey almost forgot where to find you man! Love your latest sketches, their in ink right? I have attempted some ink here and there but I do pencils more. Your masters copy is looking great, dont forget to keep at it and keep us updated!

cant wait till your next batch man, your anatomy is great. This also reminds me I have to do some life drawing, still lifes and such, thanks!! Good work on the apple, do some more !! :D

cheers :chug:

[antihero]

#32 - Master Copy & Co

@golgari: thanks!

@endregan: Yes ink. I like ink a lot. Thanks for the encouragement, i'm workin at my anatomy to become great... ;)


So here we are again. I made another Life Drawin, because that seems to be important.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/chair002.jpg
It really looked weird and reflected nearly everywhere so it turned out a bit confusing...

I made another pic, but it was a Header for a letter and... well, the letter was sent this afternoon, before i could scan it... :)

Anyway, i worked again on the Frazetta Pic
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/07_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/07_big.jpg)
I worked on the shield and tried to "finish" the shading. I think it is not completely finished, the structure needs more details, but for now, it's ok. Damit, that was a hard piece of work and took me about 1 hour, but i really like the result. Maybe a Closeup would be good... ;)

And again some Figures. Not too good, just sketches and they're worser than the last ones... However:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/proportions016.jpg

thanks for allways commenting guys!
Might be, that i can't post tomorrow, don't worry, i'll be ok and not stopping... ;)

antihero

[endregan]

that life drawing is good!! I must do a couple and post em :). Love your anatomy studies. the top and bottom ones are really good, I especially like how you're going into awkward hard-to-manage poses which is cool :). The frazetta master is coming along nice too

[antihero]

#33 - Master Copy (wip)

@endregan: thanks... :)

As i said, not much time today. I only worked on my Masters copy and it was... funny though i made some big mistakes. I started to work on the saddle today. Frazetta putted a stunning amount of details in the saddle, so it will take up some more time. i decided to paint the background first and then lay the ornaments above. So i started and it went along nice, until i realized that my color choice was just... ehrm. terrible. Look at it:
Saddle-Painting (Mistake-WIP) (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/wip-shading.jpg)

Here's the whole picture as usual in a smaller size (click to enlarge).
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/08_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/08_big.jpg)

antihero

[antihero]

#34 - Mixed stuff


Hello again,

a lot of things going on right now. today is the first of August. This is a national celebration day. :)
However. here's some mixed stuff from today (& yesterday). I also worked on the Masters Copy but i think i'll wait with the update until the saddle (structure) is finished. Give me some time... :)

Here we go:

Worked on several "animalish" creatures.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/crab.jpg
First one was sort of a crab. Maybe a bit inspired by the Game "Rune" (Kind of an ego-hack'n'slay Game, i like it, though it's allready "old").

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/dinodragon.jpg
Hmmm... Sort of a dino-dragon. Not too good.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/gargoyle.jpg
Don't know what this is. Started as a figure, turned into a gargoyle and somehow looks a bit like a harpye... :)

Made some more figure-drawings. Here are two of em:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body017.jpg
I tried to make at least a rough shading. Thats the result. More to come.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/tshirted.jpg
Tried to not allways draw naked figures. Well and... it's at least a beginning. :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg-bone001.jpg
This was a first draft of the upper leg bone. I think i'm now gonna try to work a bit more on specific parts of the human body. First a basic bone structure and then some muscles & Flesh above it. However. That's as well... a beginning.

Finally i sketched aroung a bit and heres one of several Sketchpage (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage013.jpg)s.

Have a nice day, y'all!

antihero

[endregan]

nice , those bones look great. your imagination is good too, i like those creatures :). I think whats next for both of us really is to start shading in what we learn and just keep at it, we shall march into art together, ready for anything.

Love your progress man! I will be posting some scans in my thread today so lookout for them :).

take care

[antihero]

Sorry guys, no time for scanning or uploading. Made another Bone thing and worked again on the Master copy.

Updates coming soon(er or later ;) )

antihero

and away...

[golgari]

those bone studies look good. your clothed figures are getting better, too. you've got to keep in mind the volume of your figures while you're drawing, though! these look a little flat, i'd say...

[antihero]

#35 - Bones & Sp's

Wow... Long tim no post. I'm gonna try to post again a bit "dailier", became somehow lazy last days... :)
However:

@endregan: thanks, you're imagination is good as well (=> "we shall march into art together, ready for anything"... ;) )

@golgari: thanks... Do you have any good volume tutorial? I don't know how to actually achieve a good illusion of volume/depth... Maybe anyone else has got some?

Heres the "new" stuff.

Starting with the bad ones... :(

sp 01 (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed003.jpg)
sp 02 (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed004.jpg)
Made these ones yesterday. The second (or the first?) one, i tried some different angle and erhm... open hairs, or however you call it. As i look now at it, it looks like i only tried to hide the difficult part of the face... :( Another thing that crosses my mind is, that i definitely should work in bigger size again. However... Those Sp really kick my butt... :(

I made some more Figure drawing, skeletal Studies, etc. But they're not too different to the things i posted earlier.

One of the figures turned out into sort of a Demon... about 0.00001% innovation, but however, you need to start somewhere. Tried to give him some shading.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sworddemon.jpg
I think the swords are lacking details, depth and correct perspective, forgive me. The demon itself looks not too bad, but his torso is way too broad and the muscles look too... normal. In Reality, strained muscles would never look that well ordered and like theory... (sorry, weird explanation).

Anyways, i worked again on the bone structures of the leg.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg-bone002.jpg
A bit messy and not too good, but shows the basic structure of a leg.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg-bone003.jpg
Too short, i know. :( Except for that, i think they don't look all too bad.

Oh and well, i worked again on the master Copy. The saddle isn't really finished yet. Actually i worked a lot on it but threw it all away because it really did not turn out like i wanted it to. So i decided to work on the other parts of the picture rather than giving up because the saddle sucked. So i worked a bit on the horse's head.

Small pics first, click to enlarge.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/09_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/09_big.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/10_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/10_big.jpg)

Thanks to all of you who checked back constantly till now!

antihero

[endregan]

your studies are coming along nicely. love the bones and your master copy is looking good! Those sp's are good, I'd like to see you paint some. I tried painting an sp but it didnt turn out too well :P.

Later!

[golgari]

yeah, those studies are nice, especially the master's copy. i also like your demon, although you're right about the things you mentioned...your first selfportrait looks somehow very female ;)
concerning volumetric drawing...hmm, what helped me a lot to "get" what it's all about was kchen's thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1432) - don't know, maybe it works for you, too.

[antihero]

#36 - Bones & Selfportrait & Master Copy

@endregan: mhm, painting might be a good idea...

@ golgari:
your first selfportrait looks somehow very female
fuck you. :) That's what i definitely did not want to hear... ;) Seriously. Thanks for the KChen Thread... Is this guy from earth? A bit depressing, but definitely a good idea... This is also about "The body in Perspective" isn't it?

Here's my "today-stuff":

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage016.jpg
Worked on the knee and drifted away... a bit... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/knee001.jpg
Well, I made this one after ramblin around on the last page. Looks not too bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait010.jpg
Well i drew bigger size. Looks a bit better again but still far away from a good Sp... oh my... :( (Oh well, and don't tell me afterwards that you weren't warned... if i get one of you, just only _whispering_ "looks a bit female" i'm gonna rip yer heart out... :evilbat: )

Master Copy again. Worked a bit on the horse's head and fixed several mistakes. The head seems still a bit too big...
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/11_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/11_big.jpg)

That was our swiss corespondant, known as antihero. Thanks for listening, and now, back to the studio!

----*-----

[endregan]

wow great bones again :). where do you find all these bones or from head? cool stuff.

Your masters copy is looking really nice. perhaps if I keep working at colour and understand it more I will do one eventually.

keep it up!

[golgari]

hrhr, sorry. didn't mean to offend you, i was just being true ;)
your new selfportrait is much better, though.
the others are good, too - the master's copy is coming along nicely and the knees are pretty good.
yeah, kchen's skills are incredible. and i think you learn a lot from just looking at how he's approaching things...it's amazing.

[antihero]

#37 - Figures & Master Copy

Thanks guys for allways replying... Its to allways have some answers in the thread. :)

@endregan: from head? i would be glad if so... but in fact they're all from the Bammes Book. He starts with some detailed Bone structures, shows how they "work" in movement and finally, lays muscles & fat above.

@golgari: ok, peace again. :)

seems like i have not made any figure for about... a long time... :) So guess what today's drawings are about?
I used no reference at all.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/skeleton003.jpg
Made a skeleton, the arm-bones are too long.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/body018.jpg
Tried to make another "Flesh & Bone"-Body. This is the result. I also tried to give him some shades and value, but i definitely got to work on that... I ask again: Does anyone recommends a book to that subject?

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/indian.jpg
Same task as before. I like the result. His torso is a bit too slim and the legs are too short (and way too slim), compared to the overall proportions.

And of course, i worked again on the Frazetta-pic... :)
//EDIT: I corrected the the head form (still a bit off) and changed the color i used in the highlighted areas on the head. Then i added the... hmm... "horsebelt" ;)

(click for larger image)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/12_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/12_big.jpg)

i'm off.

antihero

[MindCandyMan]

Great job man...the last self portrait shows tremendous progress!!!! And the frazetta pic is turning out phat man keep it going. Keep up your momentum!

[antihero]

#38 - Master Copy & Sketches

@MindCandy: thanks!

Today was kind of a lazy day.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/clothed.jpg
Tried sort of a mage in clothes because i allways just draw naked people, that's a bit dirty... :) well, lots of mistakes in it, lacking details, etc. but the clothing looks not all too bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/angel-falling.jpg
well... hmm... i spent a lot of time on this one. Especially the arms were pretty hard because i wanted them to really look like being part of a falling person. Hmm... One arm is still very unfinished and so is the rest of the pic, maybe i'm gonna try finishing it...

Master Copy again (click for a larger piece of failure:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/13_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/13_big.jpg)
I worked on the ... "ring-trousers" and it seems like there is still a lot of work to do... :(

Bye for now. no posting tomorrow. Big party to organize... :)

antihero

[golgari]

i like that falling angel alot. very nice pose. and the effort for the arms was worth it. especially the arm in the back (the one who's not yet shaded) looks extremely good.
your frazetta copy looks good too; the ring trousers are going a good way....

[antihero]

Hello guys,

just wanted to keep you informed. After two weeks of doin nothing and lurking around (some call it holidays), i'm currently at work again. And as usual there is soooo much to do and i simply don't find the time to post every day my recent stuff because sometimes just can't work at the computer in the evening after workin with it the whole day (some of you might understand... :) ).

So don't worry about me, stoppin to draw because there are no recent updates...

antihero

[antihero]

#39 - a little bit of (nearly) everything

//wanted to post allready yesterday, but concepart.org was down, just when i clicked on the "post reply" button... :mad: ;) Copied the text, here it is, so nevermind...

@golgari: thanks!

Going to be a big dump. :D

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage018.jpg
Made some more bodys/skeletons but i wont post all of them. These two ones here are both a bit off and very rushed over. The face looks not too bad to me, i especially like the nose which seems to be (first time in this thread) correct.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/figures001.jpg
phew... Lots of figures again.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/figures002.jpg
Tried to stick some fat to my figures, looks abit off, but the guy in the left bottom edge seems to look no too bad. [used no ref]

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/figures003.jpg
sort of a fighting scene. unfinished.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/figure001.jpg
made this lady some days ago and she looks really not too good. Spent not enough time on it, had not enough patience, etc. :(

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/figure002.jpg
Same women (used a photo as reference, as i did on the picture before => weird grammar)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/angel002.jpg
Angels again. The lower one was more done "by accident" but still looks not too bad. The upper one again took some work and looks also... well not too bad.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/indigens001.jpg
Man and his wife. How genders should be defined in their roles :D (Don't beat me, it was a joke, though it wasn't very funny...).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/indigens002.jpg
Medicine Man, puked on the legs so i had to cut em away. I stopped trying to make them look correct... :(

And well... again some selfportraits. I found a book lately which i own since some years, but never really looked at. it is about drawing, and it is about basic aspects of basic parts of drawing. I realiced that i lack basic knowledge in some parts of drawing (man my grammar is weaker than my drawing... :) ). So i learned some neat things like sketching the selfportrait before workin on details (yeah i knew before, but seems like i never really took care of it), etc. It seemed to turn out pretty good so i started to add details / shadings and then, it just turned into shit, once again, like so many times before. i lost the special form of the head, messed up the eyes, it all just looks off. The hardest thing is that i can never go back, no "CTRL-Z" or step back. However, wont interest you much. Here are the pics:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait011.jpg
messed up this one even worser, take care of your eyes (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sp-messed005.jpg)

good nite. :)

antihero

[golgari]

Huah, that's indeed quite a bunch of stuff!
the face in the first one looks not too bad; the nose is pretty good. however, keep in mind that usually the eyes are somewhere around the middle of the head you put 'em too high, i'd say. (or, for the other way round, you drew the forehead too small). the poses are very nice. like that warchief-on-the-hill-one.
the fat persons are good, too. the one in the corner looks like he has no neck, though...
the first indian-fighting-scene looks very good to (exactly like you would expect an indian to move after having seen too much western-movies). the second looks a little strange.
the head of that woman looks a little too big to me in the first picture. also, it's pretty flat.
your angels look lovely; so do your indians. (although you exaggerated a bit with the belly of the medicine man, it looks like he swallowed a medicine ball :P)
your selfportraits...hmmm...well, sketching first is a pretty good idea, i do that, too, and i think you can see proportional mistakes in early stages much better.
i think your second self portrait isn't screwed up that bad. actually, though it may look strange at the stage where you left it, i think it looks better than your first, because your contrasts are better, and the whole thing is more voluminous (you managed to elevate the nose and the forehead here and push back the eyes. finally! ;) )
also, there IS ctrl-z. it's only named eraser, and it's extremely important when doing selfportraits, at least for me.
you're somewhat eraser-shy? ;)
anyway, keep going. personally, i think that second self portrait, although off, shows progress!

[MindCandyMan]

Great work antihero...I will make a suggestion though. I don't think you are ready (in my newbie rookie opinion) to attempt to construct a figure from memory. I shouldn't be trying at this point either (it's tempting isn't it hehe) because I think we still need to do a lot more studies of anatomy, etc... It always helps to try and put the anatomy studies into practice and I think you should try that every so often but I would do as many studies from bridgman, loomis, etc... as you possibly can because you will learn the right way to construct it from the beginning. When we try to draw the figure without the proper knowledge it's like shooting in the dark. Keep up the good work bro...we will be doing more studies! You are doing great man keep it up.

[antihero]

#40 - Selfportrait :chug:

@golgari: thanks for the advices and encouragement!

@MindCanyMan: No way, ecpept for... maybe... well just... it's... oh my... you're right. :( Though i think it is not bad to try from time to time, it should not be primary subject of my work. Thanks for mentioning!

Here we go, took some time to work on a self-portrait again:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait014a.jpg
Basic outlines, scanned it in after drawing.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait014b.jpg
Started adding details after scanning it in for the first time.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/self-portrait014c.jpg
Well that's the result. Forehead is too low and the eyes look somehow off. But it looks like me... :eek:

antihero

[Rohan]

your drawings show good progress, keep it up. I find your bone sketches helpful too. cheers :beer:

[golgari]

heeey, that's progress indeed!
that newest self portrait looks really good!
especially the area around the eyes. you managed to get down those overlapping areas really well. good work. don't worry that much about the eyes looking a little bit strange, that's because of the pupil, which you can only hardly keep in position and draw at the same time in that position. a little bit more contrast in the face area (trying to exaggerate the shadows and stuff a little in order to give the face more structure) would be the only critic i can give. but it's great, you're advancing :)

[endregan]

great work my brother. keep at this!

It it s great to see your figures and sketches coming along/

[antihero]

# 41 - legs

@Rohan: oh damit! i forgot those copyright things again... ;) Serious, cool to hear!

@golgari: thanks! i'm glad to hear that it does not look "female" to you... ;)

@endregan: thanks man!

Here we go, i wasted some time on Life-drawing today, Gonna post the attempts tomorrow because i plan to do more (hopefully better ones) :).

Anyways, spent quite a lot of time on some leg studies. Here we go:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg001-insd.jpg
"Inside"-view of the "upper leg" (whats the correct expression?). (Bammes)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg001-outsd.jpg
"Outside"-view of the "upper leg". (Bammes)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg002.jpg
Skeletal structure and muscles. Axis of movement are also included. Think it helps to get a basic overview to the tasks appointed to each muscle (Maybe a bit confusing if you drew it self). Please excuse my german annotations... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/leg003.jpg
Front view and "Quadrizeps"-muscle.

Now i'm gonna have a cold drink. :chug:

antihero

[endregan]

ah yes those muscles of legs and bones and tendons are just great :). I really like those they look really well done!! The legs are interesting . How is the frazetta coming along anyhow?

[antihero]

# 42 - Sketches & Master Copies

@mlessard: thanks for lookin at my stuff and replyin... Would be great to see your stuff in a thread, sharin the same way is allways a good idea. Let me know, if you're goin to open a thread in here! I'll sure check out your stuff. (Have a look at the daily sketchbooks (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=41) forum, more views and replys but if you're drawing from life from time to time you can also join this forum).

@endregan: thanks man!

Here we go. No time for explanations, need more time to draw... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/halfwaygood.jpg
Half of a guy, "during-a-telefoncall-sketch"

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage020.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage021.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/pirate.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/astroguy.jpg

(click to enlarge)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/frazetta/14_tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/frazetta/14_big.jpg)
Haven't worked a lot at it, and to be honest it's pure discipline to work at it. i got very frsutrated because when i look now at it it seems to lack everywhere... the colors are "too shiny", the proportions off and still about 874653 things to do. I think i learned pretty much with this one, especially about how to work on such a picture. However, i don't really want to stop here, but it is just damn hard to work at it... we'll see. stay tuned.

Thanks to all of you guys who regularly take the time to have a look at my stinkin stuff!

critics appreciated!

antihero (things to do: buy bridgeman book)

[pandawhipped]

antihero: its great to see your progression as an artist! :) I really like the astronaut you've done. Great use of graphic shapes for the background. Definitely get the bridgeman book, but also get anything you can by Loomis. You can download his entire book at fineart.sk i believe (if the sites back up that is). Keep drawing!

-Ryan

[Jeff Gran]

Dude you are getting way better and fast. Really good progress in all the latest stuff. Your last self portrait is definitely your best. What you should do on the next one is once you get to your normal stopping point, when it's all filled in, go back over it again and really work in to the shading. don't leave any lines behind. like, when you look at your face in the mirror, look at every line and it's not there, there's just a border between light and dark areas.

Your leg studies look awesome, your figures are ten times better than they used to be. I'm really amazed, man. Keep it up, don't stop now I think you're on the brink of "figuring it out". :btu:

[antihero]

wow.

@Jeff: Thanks man, i just couldn't resist replying to your post, though i usualy don't reply until i can post new stuff as well. Your reply means much to me since i also got the feeling of something made "click" inside. Don't get me wrong, someone once said "one of the most important skills of an artist is, not to fall in love with his drawings". Well, i don't think that this is my problem.
But i've been spending a lot of time to draw last days (more stuff to come soon, made my first "concept"-sketch yesterday evening) and well, except for this forum, only few ones really know what this thing (drawin daily) really is about, what it takes and what it means to me. So it is allways great to get feedback, even greater and more encouraging, if the feedback turns out as nice as yours. Honestly: thanks!

@ pandawhipped: Thanks man, you're right, i could do some Loomis stuff again.

antihero

[golgari]

hey antihero,
your figures are getting really good. i especially like that one with the whip and the one on the dragon-page.
good to see you seem to be practicing the head; i think that's indeed a good idea for the next step.
i'm currently waiting for my bridgman book, too =)

[MindCandyMan]

Your line quality is getting better and better day by day. Constant improvement man. You are caring more about when you put lines down and about making each line count. Keep going you are improving bro!

[antihero]

# 43 - stuff

@MCM: thanks man!

@golgari: thanks, should look again at a head tutorial (loomis) because the last one was sort of without any idea what i should try to draw... :/

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/nude001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/iguanodon.jpg
My first sort-of concept-sketch. Iguanodon, existing dinosaur. Done without reference.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/knee002.jpg

antihero

[golgari]

i like that concept - especially the last drawing, where you've got the dinosaur "in action". the first drawings - i don't know... the neck of the iguanadon looks not strong enough, and if you do close-ups, one expects to see some more details. i understand that that's hard to do, though - since you're drawing from memory.
the woman doesn't look bad, only i think you drew the head a bit too fast, her chest is a bit small in comparision.
those last studies look good, at least the first. but even the last one doesn't look too off for me.
concerning drawing heads - i don't know, the loomis tutorial never really seemed to work for me. at least not the one out of his figure drawing book. i haven't looked at "drawing the head and hands", though. i'm currently trying to go the anatomical approach to heads. i have the feeling that that could work out...

[endregan]

the latest figure drawing shows a lot of improvement I really like it. those dinosaurs. your concept of the dinosaur with the rider shows a lot of action in the pose and is really good for no reference I like it!

[antihero]

# 44 - knees, heads and some imagination

@golgari: you're right with that "mistakes" about the girl and the iguanodon stuff. You're truly helpfull man... much more interesting than those boring microsoft word-assistants... :) Thanks again for all those replies that brought me further.
Hmmm... i don't think the Loomis-way (read another tutorial, that "teaches" the same basic shape to start with) is too bad for me... well maybe i'm wrong... For now it is enough for me to have a basic idea of the head shape in a 3-dimensional way. I'm gonna work on the anatomical view later on. Step by step... well that's just what i think now, might be i realize that anatomy is truly better than starting simplified.

@endregan: thanks!

art!

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz003.jpg
more heads (no ref)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz002.jpg
and even _more_ headz (no ref)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage022.jpg
sketching of a figure (out of head) and some heads again...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/evilattacks.jpg
Made this one yesterday evening. (Poste and environment is inspired by Frazetta, i bought a book recently) Unfinished i know. Maybe 'll try to paint it because i somehow like it.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/knee003.jpg
Need more patience when doing these... :/

c&c welcome

antihero

[golgari]

don't get me wrong, i didn't want to get you off from that loomis-approach to drawing heads. if it works for you, that's great - most of the artists around here are with you on this, i guess. i just noticed that i, personally had some problems with the heads i tried to draw that way - don't ask me why exactly. but you're doing fine with it, i'd say. what i personally think is the hardest pose is the one where you see the head from below, where you see the downside of the chin. you also did only one of these...that one doesn't look bad, though! :)
maybe try some more of these. maybe also consider doing more heads with necks - since they are usually always connected, i think it's pretty important to get them harmonic.
that frazetta-inspired-pic is very nice, good job. his pelvis looks a bit strange and he could maybe use a nose, but that's only some small flaws...
i like your legs. maybe try doing some more studies of the surroundings, since the knee alone won't bring you that far if you don't know how it's connected to the legs. plus, i think maybe it's easier to see how the shapes have to "flow" when you see the whole unit (the leg) instead of just that part (the knee).

[endregan]

great anti,. the frazetta inspird does look really good I would definitly paint it ;). What book is it you bought I might want to look into buying one frazetta is great!! :)

keep up the studies

[Jeff Gran]

ya, man that frazetta pic looks pretty good, but I think the main figure's torso is too long, making the leg look wierd.

about the heads, what really helped me lately to understand them is bridgman's method of breaking the head down into planes and blocky forms. If you have his book maybe do some studys of that. or if you don't, just try drawing a cube shape in perspective and fitting the head in to that, it will help you visualize it in 3d, seeing all sides of the head.

[antihero]

@golgari: you're right with that difficult head-view from below. I will do some more.
I will do some "whole-leg" studies, but i think the knee is a very important part of the leg because of the muscles ending, starting and floating over it, which makes it pretty complicated. :) The "whole-legs" are next on my masterplan... ;)

@endregan: The Frazetta-Book i bought is "Testament", but the pic that inspired me to the one above is not included in it. Yeah whatever, i think you can't actually buy a "wrong" Frazetta Book... :) I made a painting Version of the Frazetta-one, but cannot upload right now... You've got to wait... :)

@Jeff: thanks for the advice, i'll try.

Important Cannot post stuff for probably the next 4 days :(

This time, it is not because i was/am lazy (drew a lot last days) or because my webspace is down or whatever. It is, because of my nation, that need me as a man to stand tall in the line of....
blabla. Yeah. I'm going to the military Exhibiton tomorow and it simply sucks. That's what i call awfull (this word is going to be the running joke of this thread... :D). Well. I made some more Headpages and as i said, a painted Frazetta one only waits to be uploaded (though not finished yet).
Well, i'll be back after this army-bulls#%!t. :)

antihero

[antihero]

#45 - heads & frazetta-inspired thing

finally, some hours before leaving heres some of the recent stuff:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz005.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/headz006.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/sketchpage023.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/tcn_002.jpg

whoho, in the army now... wo-oo-wo-oh in the army now... ;)

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

The page with the guy carrying another is great. I love the big and little creatures next to each other.

good work on the heads. a couple of things to think about: the line for the top of the forehead, the eye line, and the line across the base of the chin should always be parallel(in perspective). also, try looking for a line connecting the point of the cheek bone to the outer edge of the chin, to define the cheeks. also be careful about your head shape, a lot of them look pretty tall and skinny.

Just trying to nudge you along, you're doing great as it is.

[golgari]

yeah, those too shaman-ogre-like guys are just great. i love their poses! most of your heads look quite good, too. i especially like the one on the lower second page, where you constructed him out of planes. that one looks really sweet.
jeff has a point though with your heads having a tendency of being a bit slim. also maybe they're partly not deep enough.
think of the fact that usually the head is nearly as deep as long in it's deepest point.
anyway, you'll sort it out. just keep going :)

[endregan]

great stuff anti i like your orc heads and head studies are good too. the guy with the other guy on his back is awesome ! your fraz inspired piece looks like its coming along too!

[antihero]

# 46 - back is what i am!

Hello guys!

The army got rid of me, so here i am. :) Had not much time for drawing last days. There was military, filming for a marriage i'm invited to, working, etc.
Well, that does not intrest you much. I know... :)

@Jeff: thanks for the advices, you're right!
@golgari: thanks for commenting :)
@ endregan: thanks!

Well, because my heads seemes a bit uninspired and out of any frame i worked on that again. I tried to draw the heads form in a three-dimensional way. Worked this out after a Tutorial by Ron Lemen (thanks :) ).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz005.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz006.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/headz007.jpg

Finally heres a pose which i think looks pretty good (for now :) ).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/08/pose.jpg

more to come but possibly in more irregular intervals, however, i'm tryin to post as often as possible/necessarly. But i think posting should not take away too much time for drawin, if you know what i mean. :)

antihero

[golgari]

whouuh, a nice bunch of heads!
but i think it pays off that you're doing so many. they look pretty good. you also seem to grasp pretty well how to connect it to the neck and not only how to construct these free-floating heads you see everywhere. pretty good.
i'm not so crazy about the pose, since i think most of your other poses look better, but i think there's not really anything wrong with it...hmm...except maybe his left arm? i don't know, can't put my finger on it, but it somehow looks strange to me...

[endregan]

hehe great stuff. the axel sort of spokes really does look like it helps out and your body poses are coming along nice too.

good stuff!

[Jeff Gran]

great head studies, I can definitely see you understanding the shape more now. The pose looks good to me and very dynamic, like he's captured in motion. Great job. Keep drawing every day man.

[antihero]

#47 - poses & first ink attempts

Here is recent stuff.
thanks for replyin guys!

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/pose.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/ink.jpg

first attempts with ink means: bought a brush (not really a brush... well the just thing you use with ink, to say it short) yesterday and i'm now ramblin around with that one. as i said. not much time for posting... :)

antihero

[antihero]

# 48 - poses (ink & pencil)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses005.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses006.jpg

cannot post tomorow.

antihero

[golgari]

hey, you're advancing well.
i really like the plasticity you're creating on those skeletons' chests. and the last pencil drawing there, with the free-floating guy who has this sacral feeling to him really rocks, bigtime! nice job on his robe, too. looks a little like you got inspired by michelangelo or someone like that ;)

[antihero]

# 49 - poses, thunderdome and some weird ink

@golgari: thanks man, i'm glad to hear you like the robe-guy! I liked him pretty much, but as allways, only few days after actually drawing a picture you can't see what you liked about it... :/

However, heres yesterday and today stuff:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/selfportraits.jpg

feel a bit ashamed to post those two sp's... they're really not great, even though it's ink... Well, besides everything else, they're basicly lacking patience. so does she:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/femalenude.jpg

I definitely need to do again studies & lifedrawing... :(

Some poses & misc stuff

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses007.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses008.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses009.jpg

Then i suddenly started to sketch for that thunderdome thing...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/thunderdome001.jpg
this one was first.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/thunderdome002.jpg
then this one... The one in the right upper edge led me to the big one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/thunderdome003.jpg
First picture i saw from nivbed was some "dormant footprint" or something like that. Confusing and fascinating like... phew... don't know how to compare, look at the picture, you'll understand.
Anyways, this one was a bit inspired by this picture, but it very sketchy and loose. but if i'm going join the thunderdome challenge i'll probably stick with this guy in a more abstract way... rambling... you'll see. :)


well, wont post tomorow, great festival in switzerland => reconstruction tour, so i'll have to leave early and come home late... :)

antihero

PS. by the way, my title is "Hero"! Funny :D

[antihero]

# 50 . bridgman, sketches and stuff

@mlessard: yeah, you're right about the head, but it is a sketch and i just made it to get an idea the picture... You can see some more pictures about this guy in todays batch... :)

some of the recent stuff, made some digitals too but they're on the other computer.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/sketchpage001.jpg
the above guy is imagination and the below-environment is what i see when drawing during lunch... ;)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/sketchpage002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/sketchpage003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/inkish001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/whatever001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bird.jpg
during a meeting, (yeah, neck too weak)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/poses010.jpg
the upper part of the fat guy looks pretty good, but the legs are messed.

got bridgman today, first two studiepages...
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman002.jpg

antihero

[endregan]

looking good keep it up :)

[golgari]

those bridgman studies are fascinating. i can see what you're copying, but you're kind of adding your own touch to it. very nice. also, i think your line quality is improving. the lines on the page before the last page are really amazing!

[Jeff Gran]

good stuff lately. the bridgman studies look very good.

[antihero]

#51 - bridgman, sp, stuff and still going... :)

thank you guys for commenting!

heres a small collection of the last weeks work. I've been drawing a lot but i seems like nothing really succeeds... :/ Anyways keeping at it... i should take a life drawing class but i neither have money nor possibility... :(

some bridgman stuff:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman005.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman006.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman007.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman008.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bridgman009.jpg

some sketches:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/sketchpage004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/drawgon.jpg

some... lifedrawing is said too much... : (unfinished)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/bear.jpg

selfportraits

i haven't done any selfportrait for a while now and it seems like that fact is about to bite back... Should do them more often in the future.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/sp-messed001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/self-portrait001.jpg
i like this one. I tried a different pose (or facial expression). Don't hit me because of the mouth... i tried to draw it about 87439023 times but i just looked quite stupid all the time so i decided to just put in sort of a orkish (or whatever) mouth... :)

and finally i started with the "drawing on the right side of the brain book". Here are the 2 images (orkish selfportrait is #3) which i made before instruction.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/hands001.jpg
hand

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/09/figures001.jpg
figures out of imagination.

bye for now. :)

(by the way, even if nobody is interested in it: i heard "brown eyed girl" live last saturday... talked about that song some posts ago... ;))

antihero

[endregan]

awesome man your bridgman is coming along nicely

[poopinmymouth]

looking good man, i recognize the bridgemans from their respective pages, always a good sign!

[golgari]

yeah, the bridgman studies are as good as they use to be when you're doing them, but the real hit of this dump is that orcish selfportrait. i love that one, the expression is so alive and convincing that i don't even really come to notice your minor flaws on the face there. you should do some more like these. what exactly was the problem with the teeth? maybe post things you failed in, too, since it's only this way that others from this board might be able to help you out with that...

[antihero]

# 52 - IT'S STILL ALIVE!

hi guys,
bringing back an oldie from the second page of this forum.
Thanks for both comments, poopinmymouth and golgari!

@golgari: yeah, posting what i failed with would be a good idea. I think it is the problem that i had before... somehow the form of the mouth does not work when i draw it... i don't know what iexactly is the problem it just... does not fit in. You'll know what i mean when you check the mouths of my selfportraits. They never were too good. I'm gonna do some mouth studies in time. :)

Anyways. It was a hard time since i last posted and i got a lot of things done. I cut a short movie (about 6 minutes) for a marriage party, was on holiday for a week and finally decided to give drawing another chance. I didn't draw for about 2 weeks because felt really f***ed up. I was like "this won't get me anywhere", etc. Don't know if you understand, anyways i stopped whining and gave it another chance, as said above. Also, i signed up for a grafic-school in switzerland. It's really nothing too big, sort of a basic course, about colors, drawing, painting, etc.
As i said, not too big but a beginning. However, i've got to pass the tests before i can start with the school. I'm going to write a bit more about those tests in a later post, because i allready "wasted" lot of time for scanning the pictures. Here we go:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/ratrider.jpg
made this one a short while before getting frustrated. Imagination.

Oh well.. Unfinished and bad. Last one before i had my little... crisis. :(
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/selfportrait001.jpg

Not too good. Ink and messed up. I made it for a letter i wanted to send to a snowboarding magazine. Light source is completely messed and the rest is... special as well.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/boardkill.jpg

Some more Bridgman studies
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman005.jpg


Imagination
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/seathings001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/seathings002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/crabs001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/wretchedone.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/birdsketch.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/figure001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/figure002.jpg


to be...

[antihero]

...continued

# 52.5

And Bridgman again
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman006.jpg

During my holidays i read "Silmarillion" from JRR Tolkien. I think it's great. Especially the scene where Fingolfin fights Morgoth seems so "alive" though he uses very feew words and... well, i got inspired and tried some morgoth sketches.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/morgothsketch001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/morgothsketch002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/morgothsketch003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/nakeddaemon.jpg
(Well this one isn't really morgoth but sort of a daemon)

And some Head-Bridgman to finish
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz005.jpg

Well that's it. I hope and want to update a bit more regular in future. (really) :)

antihero

PS: anyone has an idea for a new nickname? I'm gettin fed up to be "antihero"... I know this is a stupid thing to ask but... well why not...? And... NO golgari, "woman" is not a good idea. ;)

[endregan]

your imaginative drawings after doing all these studies has helped you greatly. your coming along great anti! :)

new name? well we cant give you a name thats for you to decide :)

[antihero]

# 53 - dark face

@endregan: thanks. Just thought maybe you've got a good idea or sometin crossing your mind... was more a bad joke than a good idea. ;)

Anyways, that's me trying to paint digitally. And i finally found some brushes that did what i wanted them to do. :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/darkface.jpg

antihero

[antihero]

#54 - heads & sketches

As i look at the picture above, the darkspace surrounding the face looks a bit messed up with all the different tones, sorry for that, seems i was working with messed contrast/brightness settings.

Heres today stuff:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman007.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/indianhead.jpg
I made this one today, it's more sort of a digital sketch, quite unfinished.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/alienated.jpg
This one is allready a bit older, i made it about 10 days ago.

bye4now.

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

good stuff man. I totally know what you mean about giving up for a couple of weeks... I've felt the same way before. I guess once in a while you just need to take a break and let stuff sink in, and when you come back to it your better for the time off.

The bridgman studies you're doing look very good, and I can see that they're really helping in your imagination work, especially the indian face. keep going man. The more you draw the better you get.

[antihero]

# 55 - Heads and another digital one

@Jeff Gran: Mhm your right. Until now i looked at this "timeout" sort of unlucky, but after reading your post i agree with you, that it somehow is important/necessarly to give yourself a little time off. Thanks!

Heres today stuff.


http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman008.jpg
I got a bit frustrated after this one (made a couple more in this "style") so i decided to stop doing enless studies about heads and start doing some heads out of imagination.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz006.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz007.jpg

And a digital one again.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/mohawk_sketch.jpg
I pretty much liked this sketch and tried to paint it.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/mohawk_121003.jpg
I used a torso reference for painting. I'm not too contented with it and i wanna paint over some areas again, but its a start.

Coming back in two days!

antihero

[endregan]

great anti. i see an issue coming up with your last image. the torso is much to large for his head, or vice versa. cut off the sides and see how different it makes it. perhaps im wrong? not sure. maybe if you made the face more round and muscular like the body, though this isnt always the case.

keep it up

[antihero]

# 56 - headz, selfportraits and sketches

@endregan: mhm, you're right. I'm gonna post an updated image of this guy tomorow.

Recent Stuff:

Heads; There are several ones from bridgman and others i made from imagination. I've got to get this down...
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz008.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz009.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz010.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz011.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz012.jpg

Some sketches i made for the current thunderdome contest. I chose the japanese culture. (there are also some egyptian ones on the sketchpages... don't mind)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/thunderdome001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/thunderdome002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/thunderdome003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/thunderdome004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/thunderdome005.jpg

And finally some selfportaits.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/selfportrait002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/selfportrait003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/selfportrait004.jpg


That's it.

antihero

[endregan]

whoa all these sketches are great.

seeing your samurais are awesome. where they from ref?

your latest sps show much improvement! good show :)

[MindCandyMan]

The second to last self portrait is really good....keep it up man!

[Jeff Gran]

I agree the second to last is awesome. your heads are improving. Don't worry about getting proportions wrong and stuff, every one of those wonky heads you draw make you more likely to avoid the same mistake next time. It's good to analyze your drawings and figure out what went right and wrong with them, but don't be so angry with yourself about it. just move on and do the next one better.

[antihero]

# 57 - united suckage

@endregan: the one in full armor, looking most like "traditional" samurais was done with a ref, yes.
@Jeff: Thanks man... Yeah the comments are a bit hard... we all know... Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. ;) You're right.
@Mindy: thanks, allways a pleasure to have you back in this thread... ;)

Heres what i did last days. Um well, Jeff said i should not be so hard... but... I just had a damn hard time drawing. I had the feeling of not being able to draw anything. No study, no sp, not even a sketch... :(
owever, i kept myself on drawing at least _one_ page each day. No matter how sucky or how f***ed up it ended, at least one page per day i would keep and post. Well that's what the following is about...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman009.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman010.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/bridgman011.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage003.jpg

antihero

[antihero]

# 58 - sketches, heads & co

Here we go once again. I kept on drawing daily here's the result. Those damn heads... :o

some sketches

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage005.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage006.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage007.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage008.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage009.jpg

heads - i drew these ones in about 5 minutes. the second page was done without eraser.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz013.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz014.jpg

Made some eyes, it's a combination between bridgman studies and life-drawing (bottom part).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/eyes001.jpg

And finally a selfportrait again. I couldn't finish it and left it in the "early-sketch-phase".

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/selfportrait005.jpg

anithero

[GriNGo]

kick ass progress antihero :) very well done... i was wondering are these sketchbook drawings? or do you draw on anything you find...

later,
GriNGoLoCo

[endregan]

great eye studies for sure!!

the indian in that pose is awesome. from ref or head? great keep it uP!

[antihero]

# 59 - digital update

Thank you guys, your replys mean much to me!

@mlessard: thank you man! :)
@endregan: the indian is from head.
@GriNGoLoCo: Thanks for showing up! I would like to draw in sketchbooks. But if i try to, i somehow... try to make it right and kickass and you know... and fail terribly. Don't know. So i'm just drawing on single A4 sheets, copypaper. That's cheap and well... it's enough for now. I keep the good pages and put them in a folder.

today i only post digital images. Some of them are allready a bit older but i haven't posted them yet.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/mohawk.jpg
This is a corrected mohawk one. well it's still not reall finished, but the torso looks imo a lot better than before.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/torrero.jpg
Older sketch

Here is a WIP of the first samurai-one i tried for thunderdome. Klick on the small images to see larger ones.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch2-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch2.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch3-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch3.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/samurai-old-sketch4.jpg

I was not too contented with this one so i started from scratch. I was going for more action in the picture and a bit innovation in it's look. The above one is pretty much a 1:1 copy of the common-known samurai.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/sketch.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clear.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-1.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-2-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-2.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-3-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-3.jpg)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-4-tn.jpg (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/td-dg/clothing-4.jpg)

That's it, i started coloring this one, but i wont post until i post in the thunderdome finished-pieces-thread as well... ;)
Thanks for looking!


antihero

[sic1]

lots of variety of the poses for your samurai. They surely seem to be coming along!

I like the one you partially colored, but if you want more action - that's also good. Be sure to think about composition as well during the early stages. I don't know if that applies to t-dome, but it can surely help when you make other pieces for fun.

keep up the hard work

[antihero]

# 60 - :happybirt heads & sketches

@sic1: thank you, yeah... i know pretty less about composition but you're right. ;) Thank you for dropping some lines, they mean a lot to me!


Some recent work:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/ears001.gif

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/ears002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/swordguy.jpg
more sort of a sketch

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage010.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/sketchpage011.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz015.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz016.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz017.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/headz018.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/10/nose001.jpg

that's it... i hope to "finish" those head studies soon, so i can move on to other parts of the human body.

so long and thanks for looking!

antihero

[antihero]

- - - - STATUS INFORMATION - - - -

I am currently switching my Website (& the images in this thread) to another server. I'm also working on a new website so i have not much time to update here. As soon as the new server is running i'm updating again.

Thanks!

antihero

[endregan]

whoa dood your progress on heads are coming along nicely. im currently focussing on just heads also and i find it interesting.

you have come a long way!! keep at it!

im also switching servers! O_O! copier! hehe jk :)

[antihero]

hehe, thank you endregan, i will check your thread, i promise. ;)
Heads are a funny thing and difficult thing... what i'm currently struggling with, is to make them look different, with character, etc. going crazy about it.

- some news -

I was at an information event yesterday. They talked about the class i'm trying to get into.
It was kind of crazy. About 500 people whit a load of shit-questions. Well, questions are never dumb but the ones i heard yesterday where... at least useless.

the goal
I've got to finish 10 pieces until the 5th of January.
There are 6 topics, i need to do a piece for every single topic. One topic is special, they want not only a single image ut a serie of 5 images.

the topics
- a daily action (serie of 5 images)
- selfportrait with favourite object (translation is a bit humble... ;) )
- one out of two newspaper stories (i dont post em here, i'll explain what the stories are about when i post sketches or finished images for this topic)
- a rain coat (translated word by word: a rain protection)
- on the street
- your favourite recipe

Scale of those pictures is 40 x 40 (centimeters)

They will be judging technique, composition, variety, color, idea, development of an idea

phew...
Well I guess this is a pretty hard thing to do. Not impossible but quite an effort. However, i developed first ideas and i start to like some of the topics.

Well whatever. I go for it.

antihero

PS: Wanna hear some cool questions?
Second topic was announced and someone asked "must this selfportrait include me?". silence... answer "well basicly yes, but if you can paint a strong picture that gives the impression of showing you in... an old shoe or whatever, that's fine as well".
With every other topic anounced there was someone asking "does the raincoat needs to be included?" or "Does the street needs to be visible?" etc....

[lavhoes]

Awesome progress, bro. You're the definitive proof that working hard and staying focused pays off big time.

[antihero]

# 61 - sp, fallen angel, headz and first sketches for my examination

@lavhoes: Thank you for commenting, no one ever called me "defintive proof"! Thank you! ;)
btw: I saw your pieces in these forums! Great work!

Here we go. I don't want to upload a lot of pictures as long as i haven't switched servers (still going to take some time) so here is just the stuff that matters most (to me).

Copied this one from a lagwagon cd
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/lagwagon.jpg

Some headz, i like the Wu-one.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/headz001.jpg

A fallen angel. He was a holy warrior in the services of his majesty and fought for the light, alongside with many other creatures of the light. One day, however, he got corrupted by evil. Led astray by the dark side, he ended up as a fallen angel, betrayed by both sides. His wings were not completely removed but lopped until he could not use them to fly anymore. blabla.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/fallenangel.jpg

And heres the latest selfportrait.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/selfportrait001.jpg

examination stuff
Well, in my last post i introduced you to the topics and the rules. Here are the first two sketchpages i made.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/_hgk_onthestreet001.jpg
I wanted to paint a bum, living in the streets. In german it is a known Expression:
"to life on the streets" => "to be a bum". Hope the page above talks a bit about what i'm heading for...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/_hgk_selfportrait001.jpg
These are some basic sketches about my selfportrait. I had two ideas (topic is: "selfportrait with a favourite object").
- One idea was about pencils, definitely being one of my favourite objects. You can see a sketch above with a head biting on a pencil. Another idea is to do my head crushing a pencil beetween my teeth... sort of absorbing anger with/while doing drawings... weird?
- The other idea was about snowboarding. I like to snowboard and i thought it would be cool to have my head (well, that's the uncool part of it ;) ) in a coughing pose. Instead of slimey objects there would be a snowboarder coming out of my mouth. I guess this would look pretty cool...

What do you think?
I'm i heading into the right direction? Is it too abstract or not enough abstract?

I would be really glad to get some serious feedbacks about those sketches.

Thanks everyone for reading and looking!

antihero

[antihero]

# 62 - small update

oh man... I would be really glad to get some feedback... :(
Anyways. Thought that it would be agood idea to do some pieces in painter before starting the examination work.
Heres on i did after a reference:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/03/11/sue_02.jpg

The skintone is not too good and i need to work on the mouth (looks really different). Anyway... I would be really glad to get some comments on what is wrong and what could be better and how and...

More stuff soon.

antihero

[endregan]

hey buddy i must of missed your latest post sorry !!

that ref pic looks pretty good. do you have the image so we can see how to help you out? it looks pretty accurate to me !

your work is progressing and i like how youve shaded some of these

a crit on the fallen angel, its that large torso again i see that bothers me. perhaps its the shoulders are small but it might just be the wrong perspective. try making the head a bit larger or not making it so muscular/wide.

good work man. your sps have come a long way.. :)

[antihero]

# 63 - a website...

@endregan: Thank you! I'm going to post the reference.
The head-torso issue is also correct... I allways tend to draw the head too small...

Worked on the new version of my homepage which is finally online.

http://www.circum.ch

Let me know what you think... :)

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

Holy shnikies man that last self portrait is amazing. Great work. Your head studies are really paying off. One thing I noticed is that you've got a corner at the cheek in many of your faces. Pay attention to the edges of the shadows there. The sharper the form, like right at your eye socket, the sharper the edge, but the more gradual the curve is, like the lower cheek and chin, the softer that edge is. It will help your stuff become more dimensional I think. You've also got some really dynamic poses in some of these pieces, and I can see the bridgman influence, he is helping you find the masses of the body. Often though your poses are stiff or rigid, even though they are interesting poses. Try to concentrate on action and gesture, maybe do some really quick gestures if you haven't in a while. I just found out about a really amazing artist when it comes to gesture, named Heinrich Kley. You can find his books for less than $10 I think. Keep up the hard work, it is paying off, and your assignments sound challenging and fun also.

[steve kim]

hi there, hope you don't mind me suggesting a thingy...

i'd say, try to work slower. doesn't matter how much time you are spending right now, whether it is 10min or an hour or more, double or triple it.

you have a lot of volume here, in terms of quantity, but i think some more invested studies are in order. give yourself an inordinate amount of time to draw something, if you are finished, go over it and make corrections, even if you aren't sure what to correct. force your eye to see things as they are.

my 2 cents

[antihero]

Hi guys...

Sorry for not updating, it's a curse. I'm really busy with finishing the stuff for that school exhibition or whatever. I usually get home from work, sit behind my table and draw until i'm close to coma-state, then sleep. Anyways, just wanted to let you know.

@chumps: Thanks for dropping me a line. I definitely appreciate that. I guess your advice is a good thing to go for since i tend to finish things as fast as possible... Thank you. I need to keep that in mind.

@Jeff: Thank you as well for your comments on my work, i really appreciate your feedbacks!

Well... That's it. I'll be back!

antihero

[PeggyChung]

hi there anitihero, wow great stuff here:D i just discovered your thread and i just looked through all of it. there is major improvement here, very inspirational :Q

[antihero]

Phuu...

@Lady Lioness - Thanks for droppiung a line! I'm glad that you like it. :)

I'm done. Finished the showcase yesterday evening, delivering it today.

Here are the final pictures:

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/dailyaction.jpg
Daily Action

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/selfportrait.jpg
Selfportrait with favourite object - first digital selfportrait, Painter

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/toythief.jpg
Toythief - conceptual Work, sorry for the bad quality (digicam-shot)

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/walkagain.gif
On the street - Flash Animation (download here (http://www.circum.ch/drawing/hgk/walkagain.zip))

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/regenschutz.jpg
My rain-protection/rainsuit - pencil (from Life, digicam-shot again)

http://circum.ch/drawing/images/faverecipe.jpg
My favourite recipe - :) It's funny because they actually use signs like the ones on the right side of the picture, to create the meals. Was done in photoshop with some vector tools.

If you want some more information visit http://www.circum.ch/hgk. You can comment on the pictures as well.

Thats it... :)
More Updates soon...

antihero

[golgari]

wow. i love that last bunch of work. you definately did improve!
the daily-work-stuff is great, but the upper middle one leaves a bit unclear what it is that you want to show, because the silhouette does not read to well. eating? waiting? drawing?
the expression of the selfportrait is for sure a good one, but the pencil looks a little boring. i would have tried to add some more shading or texture...well, anyway.
concerning the other stuff, only the chaotic composition on the mcdonalds-one bothered me a bit. the vector-pommes look great though :)

well...just go on like you're doing. you really seem to learn a lot out of those bridgman-books: your bodies all look pretty good. i wish i could remember that stuff that well ;)

[spork891]

Flipping through this sketchbook there was a series of about 5 posts where you took this amazing 180 and suddenly your skills just skyrocketed, how did that happen? Incredible.

[antihero]

@ golgari: thanks a lot! Glad to hear you like it! The daily actions are in fact single pictures. Each picture is scaled 40x40 cm (1 cm = 2.54 inches; 15.74in x15.74in) so it's a lot easier to figure out what action i am showing (or, trying to show). I only had a sucky digicam at hand so i decided to just show the thumbnails instead of bad qualitiy pics like the rainsuit and the conceptual work... I guess you get the overall-idea anyway. :)
And you're right about the composition, i did not think about that... sadly.
@spork891: Thanks alot! I can't really explain... except for the fact that bridgman sure helped me alot.

So after all i'm back from berlin. I wanted to join the conceptart Workshop there, but since they canceled the whole thing i was just off for some free days.
Had a great time with not too much drawing, i guess it's ok since i spent a lot of time behind my desk, working on the pic posted above.

Expect some new sketches & stuff soon!

antihero

[antihero]

#65 - sketches

Phew... It's been a long time since i updated with some "regular" pictures... Heres some sketchy stuff plus a bit of lifedrawing from my stay in Berlin.
Thanks for reading and watching.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/orc_sketch_001.jpg
An orc. Started to ink, still need to finish it.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/face_sketch_001.jpg
Face sketch... a bit wrong but i like the doubtful/sad expression.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketch_002.jpg
templar

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketch_003.jpg
orc. Weird arms & hands.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketch_004.jpg
female strange assassine

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/gargoyle_sketch_001.jpg
gargoyle or golgari, whatever you want. :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/nude_sketch_001.jpg
nude sketch

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketch_001.jpg
"i want you to hit me as hard as you can..." great movie.

Lifedrawing from the zoo in Berlin
(Ended up being several lifedrawings among many pose-sketches)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/berlin_lifedrawing_001.jpg
This one was really cool. While i was drawing one of the vultures suddenly flew straight towards me, claws in front of the body. I'm pretty sure he tried to attack me until he suddenly crashed with full-speed in the cage-fence... strange. Pretty funny to watch but it must have been about the worst damn feeling a vulture can have...

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/berlin_lifedrawing_002.jpg
Hippos... Maybe the most difficult to draw, they didn't keep one single pose for longer than one minute.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/berlin_lifedrawing_003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/berlin_lifedrawing_004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/berlin_lifedrawing_005.jpg
Made me think alot to see this sortof "animal-king" in the small cage. I was able to do a small portrait of the lady since she stared at me for a pretty long time while her... "husband" walked from end of the cage to the other, sometimes stopping to piss through the fence... Makes you sad to look at such a thing.

That's it.
Thanks for reading and even more for commenting, appreciate crits & comments.

yours, antihero

[MindCandyMan]

Boy you jumped over a hurdle huh...keep it comin!

[antihero]

@mcm: But still a lot of hurdles in front of me... :)

Heres some recent stuff. I've been working on an angel subject (i like angels) which is going to be a present.
Here are some sketches plus the final image (well, the pre-final image, wont post the final since it is a present which i do not "publish").

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/angel_001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/angel_002.jpg
torso too large (sounds strangely familiar, doesn't it?)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/angel_003.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/angel_004.jpg

got some more but i guess it get boring allready... ;)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/selfportrait_001.jpg
Selfportrait, pretty fast. I tried to use a different "shading-method" but it turned out not too good... Need to work on different "styles"

Thank you for surfin along.

antihero

[jester]

Your animal sketches are really charming!

Jester

[antihero]

@mlessard: thanks & yes. I need to keep that in mind.
@jester: Thank you! :)

Heres recent stuff, tried to work on some different things than just allways figure-drawing:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketchbook_01_001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/sketchbook_01_002.jpg
Started a sketchbook finally (used single A4 sheets until now). These are out of the first sketchbook.

Selfportrait
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/selfportrait_002.jpg

Environment/Landscape-sketch
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/environment_001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/bridgman_001.jpg
Some bridgman.

Thanks you all for looking!

antihero - #67

[Jeff Gran]

Hey really great stuff lately. Glad to see you're still at it, you're definitely vastly improved. The zoo stuff looks really good, I know it can be hard with the animals moving around all the time. And I'm amazed by your anatomy on the figures from imagination, did you use reference for some of them? Some of your latest pieces I can see where you've gone over all the lines a few times. I would recommend forcing yourself to think about your line and then make it deliberately, and once. Keep posting, man.

[golgari]

great! what still strikes me most is your sense for poses. you definately have got a feeling for that. i especially like the floating nude one and the angels (oh yeah, i love angels, too. especially fallen ones...hehehe). that golgari-gargoyle is great, too! :D
i wish my imaginary skills would anywhere be near yours... but i'm still completely lost when i don't have anything in front of me.
how do you go at it? do you visualize the whole pose before starting to draw or do you build it up while drawing?
as an advice i would say maybe try to go more into details, now that you seem to grasp the basic body parts that well.
plus, maybe try to study hands. some of yours still look a little strange.
hm, i still have got my empty sketchbook lying around here, can't get myself to take a go at it - i'm still using A4-sheets ;)

[antihero]

#68

@Jeff: Thank you, the Zoo drawings were pretty hard that's right. I'm glad that i'll be able to go to a zoological museum soon. They've got lots of stuffed animals so i'll get some more training before doing some "real" animals again. ;)

@golgari: Thank you, your ciritcs are something i appreciate very much!
Sorry, i currently don't have the time to answer you questions about drawing from imagination but i will answer them... ;)
Thanks for checking back anyway.

Heres some new stuff. I tried to work digitally again. I had the feeling that i need to practice with some "easier" images, means simple forms and shading before starting to draw realistic things.
/end rant

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/robot_001_01.jpg
simple robotic sketch

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/blue_robot.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/robot_002_01.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/robot_002_02.jpg
Tried to make it a bit more interesting. Wings are starting to bore you, dont they? ;)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/01/robot_002_03.jpg
It's a wip. Still a lot to do... :)

Thanks for looking at me pictures. :)

antihero

[Banimator]

Love these progress threads. Inspiring and quite encouraging.
Read you ordered a graphics tablet, did you get it, and if yes. why all the paper drawings. (just asking)

[antihero]

@Banimator: Check the last batch... ;) I think a tablet can never replace good ol' handcrafted "artwork". Means, if you can't draw with a pencil you wont be able to draw on an A4-graphic Tablet as well. I prefer pencil if it comes to just sketching. Then again i made a couple of digital drawings, some are not too bad and some show that i still do have a long road to walk. :)

@golgari: Heres an answer about the questions you've asked. Hope this makes sense.
When i draw from imagination there are two different ways.

One way is to just get your pencil on the paper and see where it takes you too. Kinda like making lots of random dots and then connecting them in no particular order... with some imagination, after some time an abstract creature or robot will show... :) This is fun but not really constructive since it wont help you if you've got to draw a specific topic. Nevertheless i'd not say that this way is useless... It helps you to just draw... for drawings sake. It's sure fun and a good thing to warm up.
When i draw this way i can never tell what i'm going to draw... Let it flow man. :)

The other way
I i want to draw a specific subject, i need a basic idea of a character or theme i want/need to draw.
Sometimes the idea is pretty clear so i just start sketching and the picture unfolds nearly without doing anything else than just drawing.
Sometimes, however, the idea is covered in fog and i do need to remove it before i can draw the pic.
If so, i start with some small sketches, others call them thumbnails. Don't focus on right anatomy but try to get interesting poses with a good proportion. I only draw outlines since the contour is 80% of a good pose.
Sketch everything you think you need to and if you feel able try to get it down.
In a first step it is often helpful to break down anatomy to several blobs so you can do basic proportions without the need to focus on anatomy allready.
Lung_bug says "if i don't get the essence of my figure in the first ten minutes i start over again". This is something i completely agree with. Start over/correct mistakes until you feel comfortable with the piece and then start to refine the single pieces of you drawing.

confused? So am i. Just draw. :)

antihero

[-The Swift-]

Incredible progress!!!!!!!! i've just stumbled across htis and what you've acheived is incredible, it inspires me to draw more and try and improve, in the way you have.

[Barti89]

dude this rocks .. i was checking the first 3 pages or so. .. then i skipped into this one wow .. nice seeing how your getting better ... myself I need to draw more anatomy and poses things like you do alot of here .. Keep it up man

[hoopa]

I'm not a real great myself, but just looking this post, you just keep improving as you go down.
Practice obviously pays off.

[antihero]

#70 - fuck

damn. I hate myself for not updating and even more for not drawing. period. :bash:

@ -The Swift-, Barti89, hoopa: Thanks for posting your thoughts about this, it kept me on not letting it all go. Thanks a lot!

Heres recent stuff.

Selfportrait, need a haircut, so i wanted to capture the long hairs... Watch your tongue golgari... ;)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/selfportrait_001.jpg

Sketch (No ref, upper part is ok)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_001.jpg

facial expression (ref, bad)
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/face_001.jpg

nect 2 are stuffed animals
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_003.jpg

Bridgman
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/bridgman_001.jpg

This is about the thing i described earlier on, sketching a thumbnail first and then...
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/hands_thumbnail.jpg

...doing a finished drawing. It's a present. Need to correct the thumb on the darker hand.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/hands_final.jpg

Thank you for reading, c&c appreciated!

antihero

[golgari]

thanks for the insight on how your sketching stuff. i think it somehow helped me to loosen up concerning some stuff...

about your selfportraits - hm, you mean, i am not allowed to tell you that you look just like........ a warrior out of "the lord of the rings" !?? ;)
no, really...the self portrait looks cool. the eyes are too large, i'd say, and the lip does look a bit awkward, but the portrait as a whole works wonderfully well. nice pose & shadows.
i love the very first antelope-sketch, although it's rather unfinished - it conveys a very threedimensional feeling with few strokes....wheew.
the finger of the white hand of your present looks a little small. hmm, and the other hand...the index finger looks a little strange. i think i like the way you put it in your thumbnail better. well, however.
hm, i'd like to give you more general advices, yet i can't really see what direction you're heading too...hmm. just go on, draw more! ;)

[antihero]

@golgari: Thanks man, you're right about the issues you noticed. I will probably rework the hand-thingy a bit.
"draw more" is best advice ever. :) ;)

Heres whats worth showing sketched a lot yesterday but it was crap except for this one:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/pose_001.jpg
(no ref)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/bridgman_002.jpg
some more bridgman.


bye!
antihero

[MindCandyMan]

good bridgman study antihero! I can see a LOT more patience put into this update than the previous ones...you are learning to control your medium...good...keep going. Be very patient...speed is the last thing to come...just do it right up front. Keep it up bud...awesome.

[antihero]

@mcm: Thank you, i really tend to rush things so i'm glad you noticed a change in the latest batch.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_004.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/crap_001.jpg
Yes, i still produce crap.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/face_002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/arm_001.jpg
Bones/Arm Study (after bammes)

thanks for looking,

c&c=appreciated

antihero

[pandawhipped]

antihero its great to see your still going strong! Don't ever stop (not that you planned on it), we can all already see an improvement. Just imagine how good you're gonna be one day. I know that's what keep me going. :D

MCM's right, its a good idea to take it really slow so you can really soak in all the information, and work on your dexterity before you start moving at high speeds.

[antihero]

@pandawhipped: Thank you, i like your thread as well... Good improvement and nice style you've got in there... :)

Today was a lazy day. I had to tidy my room... It was so absolute absorbing, drawing all energy out of me... blabla.

So heres another bonestudy for ya.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/arm_002.jpg
Arm Bone-Structure, Side-view (after Bammes)


Plus here are two pictures from before the "hitchhiking"-thread... :)
Enjoy:

thoughts of a dying one (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6941) (quite philosophic, isn't it...?)
Triceratopian (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7144)

Good old times... ;)


antihero

[antihero]

Heres a sketchpage while doing a phone call (yes, long one).

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_005.jpg

anti-whatever

[antihero]

recent:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/hands_final2.jpg
Tried to rework the "Hands" thing i posted some days ago... Any thoughts about the new one? Which one do you prefer?

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/ragingorc.jpg

antihero

[lavhoes]

From what I can see, your biggest problem with your faces are the eyes. Everything else looks spot-on, except the eyes. They feel pasted on and don't really give off that 3d feeling that you achieve with the rest of the face.

Adding eyelids would help, as would pulling back the eyes a bit into the skull. What would really push you along is an extended eye/brow study. Analyze the shapes in and around the eye, and see how they interract. The part of the eye that we see is very, very small compared to what lies in and around the skull, and learning to fight against the natural human tendency to exaggerate the eyes would help you tremendously.

You're improving by leaps and bounds with every post. Keep up the good work =D

[endregan]

sweet

good hands. only thing would be add more value? but not sure if it is intentional to leave it lighter. is it from a reference?

good studies

man you love masks. they look cool :)

[antihero]

@lavhoes: Thank you for taking your time to nail that down, you're right. Going to make some eye studies.

@endregan: Not from reference but it should indeed be in a light tone. Thanks anyway!

Heres some new stuff:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_006.jpg
yes, it's commander crap

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/face_003.jpg
This one was done for my sister, she's a teacher and she needed a woman's face with an empty blob. Well, after all she needed only the contour so i worked with heavy contour-lines.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/eyes_001.jpg
Eye Study (Bammes)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/eyes_002.jpg
More eye studies, a bit to fast probably.

fatally yours,
antihero

[antihero]

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/wartribe.jpg
"Hey... We're looking for a guy named... "golgari". Know him? We were told that he... well he described a selfportait of our master antihero "woman-like"... Some posts ago... crzy guy..."



Blabla. This is a sketch i did after realizing that i totaly missed the thunderdome 7. Damn. :(
Topic was "Revenge-seeking horde".
The one above was inspired by some "ostlinge" out of LOTR.

antihero

[antihero]

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_007.jpg
This is an oldie i made during a conceptart-posting-break. Bit older allready.


two small robot sketches
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_008.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/02/sketch_009.jpg

c&c appreciated as allways. :)

antihero

[antihero]

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/03/pierced.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/03/pirates.jpg

bye.

[endregan]

hey i like the tribeman sketch.

agreed, eyes are tough, but keep studying them!

the protestor sketches work well. looks as if hes going to throw the bottle, it reads really well.

:)

[winjer]

its time for you to hit the life drawing class now.

[antihero]

Hi there

it's ending.
I've got to join military tomorow for 21 weeks.
No more posting until...?!

I'm sorry, i feel pretty fucked too about how it ended.
It was a great time, i really enjoyed this thread and everything else on conceptart.org. Thanks for every line you wrote and every comment you gave. It helped. I hope it's not all lost.

bye, weird antihero

[endregan]

swiss army!

noooo

well make sure to sneak in a pencil. need to keep the juices going. maybe paint some landscapes hehe

i dont know how tough military is but when u get back maybe youll have a new direction or preferred subject.

seems like everyone goes to the army :). free educations is not bad huh :).

will miss ya! we've been growing together for a while :)

[MindCandyMan]

Good luck friend...we will be waiting when you get back. Do well man.

[antihero]

Thank you guys for those lines, they helped me to let it slip away.

well sort of slip away. I get to draw every once in a while but it's far away from drawing daily or drawing concentrated. If i'm lucky i get to sketch a bit but most of the time i'm just too occupied or too lazy/tired (sometimes even both) to draw some.

for those who care. I failed the entrance test for the school/class i tried to attend and yes, i'm sad about that too. We'll see.

btw. I'm still in military, don't expect more posts, im short on time.

thanks for reading, excuse the "senseless" bumping of my thread.

antihero

[endregan]

good to hear from you! Dont give up if you didnt get accepted the first time, keep trying.

Draw when you can... all that military influence will have some influence on your art too and you can draw soldiers and guns and stuff.

Escape the troops and find a cool place to sketch ;). Well Be waiting for your return buddy

[PeggyChung]

Hey Antihero, when do you do finish your term in the military? and what school are you trying to go into? art? or are you doing this as a hobbie? thanks.

[antihero]

@endregan: Thanks man. Keep trying is what i need to do, you're right. Thank you for helping out with these words...

@LadyLioness: Yes, currently drawing is a hobby of mine. I tried to attend a class at an art-school. I'll finish my military service at the 6th of august.

Thank you both for replying. Here are two selfportraits for you.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/selfportrait-01.jpg
It's strange, i don't like the overall-look. But the mouth and the nose seem to fit. This is funny because usually things are exactly the opposite... :)

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/selfportrait-02.jpg
This is me telling you how much i enjoyed the last 13 weeks.

bye for now.

[endregan]

Good to see you respond so soon! Looks like youre off the military soon and able to go hardcore again :).

I really like these sps, they have a lot of form and the last one has a lot of expression.

I see youve grown an android mohawk! sweet :P

[antihero]

@endregan: Damn, you're right. This was just a weak try to get Android posting in this Thread. ;) The fuck, just kidding. Still eight weeks to go. :bash:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/stgw-sketch.jpg
military influence... :S

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/sketch-001.jpg
a page out of my sketchbook, one of the few good enough to be posted here... i find it hard to draw while being in the train or with lots of crowd around me... strange.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/icarus-sketch.jpg
pretty not so good, but it's a long time since i drew a whole-body pose... practice oh sweet practice.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/selfportrait-03.jpg
I like this one.

Know what? It's saturday evening and instead of drinking beer and having stupid conversations i sat behind my desk, holding a pencil in my hand, drawing. I don't know how much weeks have passed since i last felt that ... fine, just doing the right thing. Thanks, without you i would have let it slip away ages ago.

antihero

[Barti89]

these sp's are great, and I like your hair :D the hand is also pretty neat.
6th of august, we'll be waiting :D

[PeggyChung]

Hey Antihero, great sps! glad to hear you're still drawing :D keep it up!

[endregan]

yeah man thats what I like to see. whenever you get the chance just sketch away :). Thats so good... looks like the time in the military has give you some direction, that sp is really good.

your rendering is pretty good..

Keep drawing well always be around :)

[antihero]

@barti89: Thanks man... i'm waiting for that day as well... glad you like it.

@LadyLioness: Thanks!

@endregan: Thanks man, your rendering has improved as well since the last time i saw your drawings!

Little question, how do you integrate details in your drawings? I find it wuite hard to draw more than necessary. If i want to draw a robot, i draw a robot. I give him arms, feet and a head. A body of course and then i start struggling with the question of "what more does he needs to be original?". Damn. I just sit in front of a robot sketch and keep on asking me why i can't put anything more in it than the sheer "conture" of it. help me. :)

Heres some sketches. The indian one shows my problem described above:
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/indian-sketch.jpg

poses
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/poses-001.jpg

thanks and bye

antihero

[bahamut]

hey antihero! great progress youve made there! just think where youre art will be in 10 years!!!

ich bi au us de schwiiz, schöne! züri, um genau zsii...

one more thing: i didnt know they allowed that kind of haircut in the army?!! funky! im gonna have that too in 2 years!

[PeggyChung]

nooooooo red X's *melts*

[endregan]

hey good to see even more sketches :)

to get ideas, usually you need inspiration or something set in your mind. sometimes you just make designs for clothing, tattoos or other cool features you can think of.

Look at other artists work and see what you like and what works and such. Try studying things you like. Like if you like army stuff, get pics and references to draw and implement them in your imaginative stuff.

It takes time and im still working on that myself... I draw too many naked bald people :)

[PeggyChung]

Hey Antihero, what happened to the indians ears? lol

[antihero]

@bahamut: Haha, nice to see another swiss guys 'round here! welcome! No problem with the haircut till now, they bugged me while i had long hair but since i cut them... no problem... :)

@endregan: naked bald people, that's exactly what i mean! :) Thanks for the advice.

@LadyLioness: The ears? As i said, i've got problems to include details in my drawings. ;) Seriously, seems like i often tend to forget the ears... Check back earlier pictures...

Heres a Ref-Drawing for you, out of a GEO-magazine. The head is a bit strange. Was difficult to spot out the different areas with the dark tones of the ref.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/lifedrawing-001.jpg
guy at the market


I've got a long weekend so maybe i'm up to one more post... we'll see.
Have a good time anyway.

antihero

[endregan]

I really like the folds in his clothing, they really pop out. Good attention to the clothing for sure..

[rey del bongo]

Wow, I just read through 1 years [in 6 days... is there going to be a celibration?] worth of serious learning. Very well played there.

[antihero]

@endregan: Thanks. :)
@rey-del-bongo: celebration? We'll see, but i don't think so. I guess i'm going to celebrate post #100 but it's still quite some work until i'll reach this point. Hope you liked the story so far... ;)

Heres a small concept. Had a hard time sketchin anything so i took a bug-book and tried to form a simple vehicle/robot out of a bug. Here it is:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/concept-bugobot.jpg

Weekend is finally over... Last post until...? I'll be back.

antihero

[antihero]

Here i come again...

All from imagination... Some better some worser than whatever you expected.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/girl.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/indian-sketch-002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/lend-me-your-scalp.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/mutant.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/poses-002.jpg

I've got the feeling that the level of my sketches did sink a bit... :S Try to raise it again in future posts.

short weekend, don't expect more posts.

antihero

[endregan]

no no no dont say they sank. actually I think these are awesome. They read very well and have great form!

You just need to get in the habit of sketching more whenever you can in the army :).

Keep up the good sketches it is good to have you posting again

I would try strengthening some observational skills, like do a bargue or setup a still life and try to get it very close if not exactly as you see it! It will bring your sketches to a higher level

[antihero]

@endregan: Thanks buddy, but you're too kind... ;) Still life is a very good idea! I'll do one.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/06/comparison.jpg

Hey everybody, i think it's about time to say "THANK YOU". Don't be afraid, i wont bug you for too long with my rant but i think this is necessary.

I'd like to thank all of you, who helped me throughout the past 357 days of this thread. A special "Thank You!" you goes out to MindCandyMan for he was (and still is) a great archetype for me to look up to. My hike would have not been this successfull without these people: golgari, endregan, Jeff Gran, MindCandyMan, amphex, LadyLioness, mlessard, Barti89, pandawhipped, lavhoes, bahamut, spork891, nor, jester, hoopa, poopinmymouth, I.was.ink, rey del bongo, gooch, Banimator, GriNGoLoCo, -The Swift-, winjer, Avetice, Rohan, sic1, chumps and all the other members of this community because without your inspiration this Thread would look a lot more boring...

Let's go for one more round!

antihero

[chi-oh]

:eek:

AMAZING PROGRESS.
in one year you improved that much. . cant wait to see how good cha gonna get next year. :chug:

[endregan]

:chug: Congrats!

It has been a good first year with many more to come I am sure of it.

I am glad that I influenced you in some way in your journey for art. You have made a lot of progress for sure, and there are many more fun years ahead on the road of art. :)

Dont stop now!

[MindCandyMan]

Fantastic progress my friend...you have the heart of an artist...now don't ever stop!!!! Congratulations man and this beer is on me ;)

:beer: :chug:

[antihero]

Hi buddys, long time no write!

Thanks everybody for his comment, i still appreciate 'em!

I'm done with military bullshit for a while so i got time to draw again more often and more concentrated. See this batch is the first of some more regular update, i'll try to keep them coming daily again.

Here we go.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/thecalm.jpg
This is the calm before the storm i'm going to unleash inhere... ;) blabla. Was done one week ago.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/shark-sketch-001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/shark-sketch-002.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/sharks-001.jpg
The last ones was done without a reference, i like the shapes. Though drawing sharks might be one of the easier things... ;)

Bye, see you soon. :)

[Leopoldo]

I enjoyed this thread alot, it's cool to see how you are sticking to it!

My advice to you is patience and focus. Let it take time, think it through as you are working on them. Some of your work feels rushed, like you are in a hurry. Time is not of importance (if you don't have a deadline) only your exploration of the drawing and what you are doing.

There's no gratitude for being fast, only more work ahead of you. It's not like you are "going to get there" faster.

The sketch is a mental note to be developed into a final piece.

If you are doing an anatomical study of an arm for example, study not the abstract style of another artist but study the arm itself, understanding the shapes as they are defined by the action and the muslces and fat.
Draw those and you'll find your own abstractions for those shapes.

Bon travail!
Leopoldo

[antihero]

@Leopoldo: Wise words, you're not the first one pointing this out, but the words you used to describe it make lots of sense to me. Thank you man! Also thanks for the great illustration-tutorial, i've been looking for someting like this a long time since i still struggle with digital work. Thank You!

Heres some more stuff for you.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/creatures-001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/minotaur-001.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/kranich-001.jpg

The last one was done with reference.
bye for now, antihero

[jester]

The sharks look like you enjoyed them very much. It's always good to draw things you admire, like or have fun with. That shark rider is a nice concept idea which can be drawn further.

Jester

[antihero]

@jester: thank you.

I've been very busy lately since i have to find a new job. Beneath that i did some webdesign to earn a little money. I redesigned my own site (it's boring now, i only use the circum.ch domain for webdesign) and i'm planning on doin a site for drawing only stuff.
Everything consumes time and heres the result:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/sp-001.jpg
i'm not liking it too much.

I didi some Illustration work as well for a project some of my buddys are working on (by now, including me as well ;) ). There are sortof 4 races, you can call them clans. here they are all together listed:

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/wearethem.jpg

For single, bigger images, click the following links:
green guy (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/something001.jpg)
blue fishy thing (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/something002b.jpg)
yellow reptile buddy (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/something003.jpg)
red angry devil (http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/something004.jpg)

Here is a sketch for two of them.
http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/08/monsters.jpg


i need to get more serious about this thread... it's just that i don't know how... :perv:

bye for now!

[mentler]

Just checking through this life drawing thread checking out the stuff. Finding people who love to draw. People who still work a lot with traditional media and share my love for the human form. Come visit my threads.
I think we share common interests is drawing/painting the figurative world.

[antihero]

Thank you mentler, it's an honor to have you in here.

hi everybody. It's been some time since i last posted. Even more time since i posted regularly. I'm tired. I wont keep this thing alive, here. I lost my will to draw, it feels like my mind is sucked dry and my heart is drained. Whatever i do with my pencils just feels like i do it because i _have_ to.
There is no fun in grabbing a pencil and drawing a line. I miss the raw energy i felt, back in the days, when i started this thread. And it makes me sad, having the feeling that all of the work, the blood-sweat was in vain.

I am glad that i was allowed to experience something like this hike but it seems like finally i'm strong enough to admit that it's over, even tough i was allways afraid of letting you/me down.

forgive me.

[talmir]

I have my own thread in the dsb section... I've been watching your thread for a long time now.. I always enjoy seeing a thread that reminds me of why I try and persist at drawing.

Dont give up. take a weeks vacation.. Listen to some new music. Watch a few movies. Forget about drawing for a week or two. If you still dont want to draw, take a longer vacation But Do Not Stop!

You'll regret it if you stop. You are getting better and better. I have been in the stage of just not really having any drive to draw.. Every line was tedious, every page a miserable heap of trash.. But so has everyone.

Chin up, And keep on goin!

[fakeraaven]

Hi folks.

This looks a bit confusing probably. I felt a need to change several things and i deeply wanted to reanimate this thread and continue to strife for more than what i have aquired so far.
And as a good story needs some twists, this thread shall be continued under the name of fakeraaven, which, in fact, is antihero. blabla. Anyone interested?
Let's post instead of ramble.

I wasn't absent from my pencils all day long since i (antihero) left. Heres a short look back.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/angel.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/killing.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/graspthebfly.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/headz.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/recoveringsats.jpg
This is kind of strange, listen to "recovering the satellites" from "Counting Crows".

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/selfportrait.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/soldier.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/skeletons.jpg

Well, i signed up to do the entrance tests at a graphical school once again. I hope for better luck this time. May the dead arise once again...

Thanks for reading & bye.

fakeraaven, aka antihero rip

[jester]

Hey, I see lots of improvement here - that's why you changed your name?

Jester

[fakeraaven]

Thanks jester. :)
I changed my name just because i felt like "antihero" has gone and come back so much in the past of this thread. And i definitely don't want to feel this time, like i'm just coming back "once again". Weird? Yes, check the pictures instead.

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/strangel.jpg

http://www.circum.ch/cncpt/04/11/selfportrait-red.jpg

Considering the selfportrait, i'd say that it does not quite looks like me, not really different but still plain to see.

bye4now.

[PeggyChung]

Hey there, glad you are back! I like your SP even though you say it doesnt look like you. I have a suggestion, I rarely see any drawings of females in your thread, maybe that can be something new you can try working on? because I draw a lot of guys too and now when i try to draw girls they look quite manly >.< :perv: