Art School Artists vs Self Taught Artists.

[Leari_79790]

Hey guys...I'm just sad.. I mean, this T-Dome is coming to an end and we've all grown as close as family here. (me being the father....and come to think of it, the mother too) A family that we all love to hate and now that it's coming to an end it brings tears to both my glass eyes. I'm just an emotionally high strung little egotist deep down....*sobs*

Hey WAHOOO!! I just reached 100 posts!! WAOOOWW yeh, man! party!

-Nerdmeister 3000

[Mr-Joe]

Hey Sve, You asked for some crits, so i'll do my best to give them. First I want to say I'm not great at critiquing art, because I think everyone sees the pictures differntly, so I supposed it matters what your intentions are with the picture, if its to please yourself then you could be satisfied with it, if it is to please others, then I suppose you would want to paint it up to the standards that everyone else is trying to obtain at the time, and I am not quite too sure what those standards are but I have an Idea.
SO I'll say that some anatomical clothing type of "errors" would be his interior robe, the arch at the bottom of the interoir robe almost makes him look hollow, but you could argue that that part of his body is infact hollow because his legs are spread out, but it just seems like that robe should not be looking hollow like that because of the look that he is short of a chubby fellow.
I don't like the colors of the boots that much, but thats just a personal thing,
I think if you wanted to "improve" your piece, you could have zoomed in some more and continued to "render and blend" the piece more and add some more detail. I think that the belt looks sort of unfinnished, if that is a belt, I can't really tell, it is the part on his body that is under his hands.
I think that there are too many colors over all in it, I can kinda guess what the look you were going for was with the colors, but overall the image looks a little saturated, which once again is only a personal opinion, because im sure you can find 10,000 other people that don't think it is too saturated.

I also think some more contrast would have made him look a little more realistic or believable, not necissarily realistic , but believablility is what you most likly want to obtain with this type of portrait art.
I like the background alot, it really adds some contrast to the character and makes him pop out a little. I think for clothing his sleaves are very well done, I like the colors and the detail, It looks like silk.

I don't like the fur around his neck very much, it looks sort of flat, I think this is one of the areas that could use some more shadows and contrast to make it look more 3dimensional or believable lighting. The material on the otter robe is very well done, tons of detail there, but I think that the shadow areas are off in color, I'm not too sure how to go into detail about this, but im sure there is some kind of color theory explination for shadow colors, but those greens in the shadow areas kinda blend in as the same color of the regular greens on the robe.

Now that I look at the whole picture more and more I think im going to take back that clothing comment about the arch of the interior robe, im trying to picture it the opposite way . "the arch" and I don't think that would look right like that, I think it works well.

Ok Overall I think its a very great image, the face is done wonderfully, a great expression, This is one of my favorites, the colors are great, It looks like you put in some good time and effort with this and Im sure you learned alot, just like I normally do with each new image I spend some time with.

I think overall for improvement , I think if you spent about 10 more hours on this piece even if half the time was thinking about it and looking at it, you could find ways to improve it yourself. I find the best way for me to improve a piece when I call it finnished, is to come back later, mabee a few hours or a few days, and the go back at it and just find little things to keep working on, and after more hours work ,I look at it and I am happy that did some more work to it. If you just spend the time looking closely you can normally find tons of things to fix for yourself.
But like I said, Great piece!
Hope anything I said makes sense or helps you someway.

Take care,

Joe.

[sve]

Oh, Thank you so much, Mr-Joe. That's wonderful critiques and all this is true. That's what I was struggling from beginning, no volume under the robe and an overloaded with details image. It is still there. He stands like he is swinging on his heels. Pose and anatomy are bad. Arm foreshortening is wrong and many, many more mistakes.
Agree about the fur collar and sloppy work in renedering. Image was changed very many times. I lost track a bit and didn't correct many things. I will try to paint differently from now on. that's what I learned. I will think about pose more and then will paint, improvising with painting.

Thank you so much, I'm very happy you gave me your thoughts and they are right to the point.

I will return you favor, if you prefer today or together with other crits.

[ikuru]

My ego is back up and running.
New and Improved, Stronger and bigger than ever before.

So did I win or did I win?
Im gonne need that lobster in a blender and hooked to my vain now.

Neardblinger, I think this all turned out quite allright, and allso your posts have been some of the most generous and amusing during this threads litle history (Im not saying that to suck your ego though).

[chaosrocks]

is it ready yet? *weeeze.... cough*

Im planning on Critting them all when I don't have to open each on by clicking the irritating little icons...

And what about us folks whos apponents didn't show?
*nibble nibble yummy fingernails*

chaos

[ikuru]

is it ready yet? *weeeze.... cough*



The information on whats happening now is quite unknown... I guess we wait....

[masque]

And what about us folks whos apponents didn't show?
*nibble nibble yummy fingernails*impression i get is that there won't be any reassignments, so if your foe flaked out, you win. might want to lay off the cuticle consumption now.

[Ilaekae]

The Master URL for these pics is below. The judges can use this as the judging site if they wish, and anyone who has a small monitor can go there to use the site's ability to show the images in smaller sizes. The Art School entry (AS) is always on the left when paired, and the Self-Taught entry on the right (ST).

http://ImageEvent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught



01-AS-Ostrander:
"Eric Bloodaxe (Old Norse: Eiríkr blóðøx) (circa 885–954), was the second king of Norway (930-934) and the eldest son of his father Harald Fairhair. Once the power was in his hands, he began to quarrel with his other brothers and had four of them killed, including Bjørn Farmann and later Olaf and Sigrød in battle at Tønsberg. A Latin text describes him as fratris interfector (brother-slayer), and it is entirely conceivable that the "blood" component of his cognomen refers to his propensity for fratricide."

01-ST-Sve:
"Ivan I of Russia, Ivan Kalita, Moscow Prince
(1288 – March 31, 1340).
Collector of Russia. He gained trust of Golden Horde khan Uzbek and was allowed to collect taxes for him.
Stole some, got rich fast suffocating other Russian Princes by financial loans.
Made Moscow and then Russia very powerful."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/01-OSTRANDER-SVE.jpg


02-AS-wil.whalen:
"Vercingetorix (?? - 46 BC)
Lead the Gauls against Caesar in an effort to not be conquered. Surrenedered to Caesar in the siege of Alesia."

02-ST-Sinix:
"Minamoto no Yoritomo (1147 -1199)
Founder of Kamakura Shogunate
Helped bring about the start of the feudal age. Warrior samurai and fun stuff."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/02-WIL.WHALEN-SINIX.jpg


03-AS-look:
"Xuanzang (602-664)
A Tang Dynasty monk who is known for his sixteen-year pilgrimage to India and career as a translator of Buddhist scriptures.
His book "Journey to the West in the Great Tang Dynasty" was also the main inspiration for the famous Chinese classic fiction "Journey to the West".

03-ST-Justin_Oaksford:
"Marco Polo (September 15, 1254 – January 8, 1324)
Great explorer and merchant.
His uncle, his father and himself were among the first Western Europeans to travel along the "Silk Road" to China."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/03-LOOK-JUSTIN_OAKSFORD.jpg


04-AS-NOSHOW (Lohan--may not have known he was in the competition)

04-ST-Noë:
"Charles Martel (686 - 741)
Saved Christian Europe, pushed the infidel back to the pyrenees and is founder of the Carolingian Empire.
He was quickly angry, fought many battles and always fought with a hammer."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/04-LOHAN-NOE.jpg


05-AS-fedezz:
"Alcuin of York (c. 735 – May 19, 804)
He was a scholar, ecclesiastic, poet and teacher from York, England. He transmitted to the Franks the knowledge of Latin culture which had existed in England. He took part in the development of the carolingian minuscule, a writing standard that was used in Charlemagne's empire between approximately 800 and 1200."

05-ST-NOSHOW (Icey)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/05-FEDEZZ-ICEY.jpg


06-AS-Art_Addict:
"Flavius Valens
328 – August 9, 378
The last true Roman, Roman emperor, killed in the battle of Adrianople"

06-ST-virusartist:
"Alexandr Jaroslawich Nevsky
(1220 - 1263)
Russian national hero and saint of the Russian Orthodox Church.

He first defeated the Swedes in the "battle of Neva" in 1240 and drove back the Teutonic invasion in the legendary battle on the frozen Peipus sea, thus preventing medieval Russia from further German invasion attempts.

In 1547 the Russian Orthodox Church declared him as one of their Saints."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/06-ART_ADDICT-VIRUSARTIST.jpg


07-AS-joelhinxman:
"Ruaidri Ua Conchobair (rory o'conner)
(??-1198)
was the last true high king of ireland. the king he usureped ran to king henry II and ask for help. king henry invaded ireland and rory fought to push him out but lost and had to surender power to the norman invaders.)

07-ST-t i m o t h y :
"Godfrey of Bouillon (or Godefroi de Bouillon) ( c. 1060–1100) The first Latin ruler of Jerusalem. He played a minor role at Nicaea and Antioch, but achieved prominence in the siege of Jerusalem (1099) and was elected ruler of the city after its capture. Having refused the title of king on religious grounds, he was designated defender of the Holy Sepulcher. He won the battle of Ascalon (1099) and brought several Syrian towns under tribute. Godfrey was killed when he was struck down by an archer's arrow in battle."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/07-JOELHINXMAN-TIMOTHY-2.jpg


08-AS-llothcat:
"Empress Theodora
c. 500-548
Byzantine empress
Was resposible for the building of Hagia Sophia, among other feats."

08-ST-NOSHOW (Oblio)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/08-LLOTHCAT-OBLIO.jpg


09-AS-NOSHOW (Floris Didden)

09-ST-TRUZART:
"Constantine
Edict of Milan 313
He was the man that brought back Christianity to Rome by defeating the Roman army at Gaul... He is believed to have made one of the most greatest contributions to the practice of Christianity..."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/09-FLORIS_DIDDEN-TRUZART.jpg


10-AS-Beelow:
"Arturius(500?-600A.D.?)
This one of the guys that is behind the Legend of King Arthur. But, the problem is he is not a King. He was actually a commander son of a King. Here is more info on the this legendary character.http://www.legendofkingarthur.com/i/arturius.pdf It is evident that this guy really existed."

10-ST-NOSHOW (Orifice)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/10-BEELOW-ORIFICE.jpg


11-AS-jfwalls:
"Pili-kaaiea
In Hawaiian mythology, Pili-kaaiea (or Pili-auau) is a chief, called a 'grandchild' of Lana-ka-wai on the Ulu line, but born and brought up in Kahiki. Because the chiefs of (the island of) Hawaii had carelessly intermarried with junior chiefly lines, Pa'ao went to Kahiki to find a relative of pure blood who could compete in rank with the chiefly lines of the other islands. He recites a chant to invite Lono-kaeho to return with him. Lono-kaeho declines the invitation, but sends Pili in his place. Pili becomes high chief and wins the support of the people and he becomes the ancestor of the chiefs of Hawaii on the Ulu line down to the late 19th century.

As there are no written records before the 1700's in Hawaii I don't know the exact date that Pili-kaaiea lived, but it is believed to be around 1100 or 1200 AD that Pa'ao arrived in Hawaii."

11-ST-Nerdlinger:
"Reginald of Sidon (1130-1202
Played an influential role in the third Crusade
Took Saladins sister, Saladin started a holy war against him, was eventually captured and Reginald was offered to accept Mohammed as the prophet or death. When he chose death Saladin slew him with his own hand."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/11-JFWALLS-NERDLINGER.jpg


12-AS-NOSHOW (Ilaekae)

12-ST-NOSHOW (JenZee)


13-AS-chaosrocks:
"Eleanor of Aquitaine
1122-12o4
wife of 2 kings
mother of 2 kings renoun for intellegence and beauty, and the fact that she owned half of france and pretty much invented courtly love (thats courtly...not courtney)
went on crusade, led her own men and wore armour..."

13-ST-NOSHOW (Magicgoo)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/13-CHAOSROCKS-MAGICGOO.jpg


14-AS-entrdroid:
"Dunstan ( 909–988 ) was an Archbishop of Canterbury who was later canonized as a saint.
He gained fame for the many stories told about his cunning in dealing with the Devil.
He functions as the patron saint of goldsmiths. The tongs are his symbol.

St Dunstan, as the story goes,
Once pull'd the devil by the nose
With red-hot tongs, which made him roar,
That he was heard three miles or more."

14-ST-xenos:
"Genghis Khan (born between 1150 and 1160, and died 1227)
Killed lots and lots of people"

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/14-ENTDROID-XENOS.jpg


15-AS-NOSHOW (Sundance)

15-ST-NOSHOW (Vigostar)

[Ilaekae]

(Continued...)

16-AS-NOSHOW (Flake)

16-ST-Dile_:
"Kublai Khan -
born (around) 1215, died 1294.
Knew marco polo and marco's uncle, helped them out of asia."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/16-FLAKE-DILE_.jpg


17-AS-rodrigiez:
"William Wallace (1270 - 1305) a Knight of Scotland he led a resistance against the English. His most famous battles were at Stirling bridge and Falkirk
eventually he was captured by the english and brutally executed"

17-ST-NicoRaven:
"Shapur the II King of Sassanians
Born king 309 - 379 AD
Killed Julius the apostate opposed christainity
was involved with Zoroastrianism."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/17-RODRIGUEZ-NICORAVEN.jpg


18-AS-Felicia:
"Lady Godiva (c.990- 1067)
Lady Godiva took pity on the people of Coventry, who were suffering grievously under her husband's oppressive taxation. Lady Godiva appealed again and again to her husband, who obstinately refused to remit the tolls. At last, weary of her entreaties, he said he would grant her request if she would ride naked through the streets of the town. Lady Godiva took him at his word and, after issuing a proclamation that all persons should keep within doors or shut their windows, she rode through, clothed only in her long hair.
From Wikipedia"

18-ST-NOSHOW (MEhz)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/18-FELICIA-MEHZ.jpg


19-AS-v0rbiss:
"Tsar Teodor-Svetoslav (12xx-1321), Bulgarian king for over 20 years. Cunning politician, he took hold of the throne by complex and ruthless conspiracies. He practically rebuilt the kingdom from the ashes, after fifty years of Tatharian domination. He ensured relatively peacefull and stable period for the kingdom for a short while by crushing a ~10,000 men crusader army, just four years after he became king. Soon after that, the Turks came and.... but that's a different story..."

19-ST-blue:
"Albertus Magnus (1193? - November 15, 1280), also known as Saint Albert the Great and Albert of Cologne, was a Dominican friar who became famous for his comprehensive knowledge and advocacy for the peaceful coexistence of science and religion. He is considered to be the greatest German philosopher and theologian of the Middle Ages. He was the first medieval scholar to apply Aristotle's philosophy to Christian thought at the time. Catholicism honors him as a Doctor of the Church, one of only 33 men and women with that honor."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/19-V0RBISS-BLUE.jpg


20-AS-Octothreat:
"Constantine I (272-337)
First Roman Emperor to favor Christianity.
He is remembered for the Edict of Milan and Council of Nicaea, because of which Christianity was allowed to spread. Though known as the "first Christian Emperor," he may have continued with pagan beliefs for much of his life."

20-ST-masque:
"Brahmagupta (ca. 598-668 CE), astronomer and mathematician during the post-Gupta period in India. Possibly best known for formalizing the use of the value zero in calculations, he also wrote about the use of negative numbers, and was the head of the observatory in Ujjain (modern Madya Pradesh province). Pictured here as a young student on the campus of Nalanda University, possibly the greatest learning center of the era and considered the first residential university in human history."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/20-OCTOTHREAT-MASQUE.jpg


21-AS-voodoochile:
"Empress Theodora (500– 548) known as the "Great Papal ".

Roman Emperor Justinian I, he made her joint ruler of the empire, and appears to have regarded her as a full partner in their rulership. A strong-willed woman, she showed a notable talent for governance. In the Nika riots of 532, her advice and leadership for a strong (and militant) response caused the riot to be quelled and probably saved the empire.

"Never was a woman so completely abandoned to pleasure. Many times Theodora [before her "gentrification"] would banquet with ten young men who had a passion for fornication...after exhausting them she would go to their attendants (by now more than thirty) and copulate with them as well in an futile effort to satisfy her unquenchable lust..."

She was commemorated on a saint in the Orthodox Church"

21-ST-Mr-Joe:
"Taoist Master Chang San-Feng (1247-1447) : He is said to have been a government official in his youth, learned Shaolin martial arts while living in the Pao-Gi Mountains, and then living for scores of years as a Taoist hermit and sage in the Wu-Tang (Wudang) Mountains. He is reported to have lived to be 200 years old, but his death date is uncertain. He is said to be the founder of internal martial arts, the yang family claimed he was the originator of Tai Chi Chuan, This is uncertain."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/21-VOODOOCHILE-MR-JOE.jpg


22-AS-amer-nazi:
"Salahuddin Al-Ayubi (1138 - 1193).
He founded the Ayyubid dynasty of Egypt, Syria, Yemen (except for the Northern Mountains), Iraq, Mecca Hejaz and Diyar Bakr. Saladin is renowned in both the Muslim and Christian worlds for leadership and military prowess, tempered by his chivalry and merciful nature during his war against the Crusaders."

22-ST-NOSHOW (Buckweisel)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/22-AMER-NAZI-BUCKWEISEL.jpg


23-AS-NOSHOW (Blahm)

23-ST-NOSHOW (WhiteRose)


24-AS-ikuru:
"Wu Mai
(742-780)

Lineage holder (762-780) as Grand Master of "Shaolin Black Dragon Kung Fu".

The Black Dragon was a warrior monk sect that protected the temples and surrounding community.

The Wu Family Black Dragon Kung Fu system was founded by Wu Chen Pai in 714 AD (Tang Dynasty) at the Northern Shaolin Temple in Honan province China."

24-ST-Flip:
"Ardashir I (late 2nd century - 241)
King of Persia, Founder of the Sassanid Dynasty
He took the kingship from his brother and then quickly expanded Persia. During his latter years he challenged the Roman Empire, leading the way for the successes of his son, Shapur I."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/24-IKURU-FLIP.jpg


25-AS-voraz:
"D. Afonso Henriques (1109-1185),
First portuguese king. Known as the conqueror, because the large extension of land conquered South to the sarracens. The process of independence from Castela is complicated and takes severall battles, including with his own mother's army. In 1179 the Catolic church recognizes Portugal as a country, being the first European country to be established. He was described as being a very tall and strong guy and contrary to what was usual took part of the battles in the front line."

25-ST-embee:
"Walther von der Vogelweide ~1170-1230
He was a very famous german lyric poet and was the first one in the middle-ages, who made songs/poems about love-relationships that worked out. Those before him told stories of knights loving unreachable princesses.
He was a very romantic character..."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/25-VORAZ-EMBEE.jpg


26-AS-NOSHOW (Brat777)

26-ST-NOSHOW (ShyamShriram)


27-AS-mrgrumble:
"Hasan-I-Sabbah
circa 1034
Founder of the Assassin Clan, came to fame when he overtook the Alamut fort in the Persian Mountains, where he became touted as the 'Old Man of the Mountains' due to his religious hermitage inside that very fort for thirty five years.
It is rumored that he drugged men and had them wake in a divine and lush garden, which he told them was a taste of the afterlife, and if they served him he would allow them to die and be sent to that place again-which reasons for the drug Hashish to be named after him as well."

27-ST-NOSHOW (Bjorn)

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/27-MRGRUMBLE-BJORN.jpg


28-AS-NOSHOW (Mr Visions)

28-ST-JLAlfaro:
"Minamoto no Yoshitsune (? ??)
(1159 – June 15, 1189)

A legend in Japan, he has been subject to many movies,books, manga, anime and theater performances. Yoshitsune's feat of cutting leaves as they fell from a tree has been referenced many times in Japanese pop culture. In some instances, characters attempt the feat to compare themselves to Yoshitsune. Yoshitsune is enshrined in the Shinto shrine Shirahata Jinja in Fujisawa.

Yoshitsune was a general of the Minamoto clan of Japan in the late Heian and early Kamakura period. His life was a short but tragic, and his skill with a sword is still the standard of high excellence in the Samurai world. Extensive Manga and animes have been created about his life along with the Japanese classics including Akira Kurosawa's film The Men Who Tread on the Tiger's Tail and the great Japanese literary classic Heike Monotogari (Tale of the Heike)."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/28-JLALFARO-MRVISIONS.jpg


29-AS-YVerloc:
"Lady Godiva. She lived from 990 to 1067.
She accepted a dare from her husband to ride naked across Coventry, in order to win financial relief for her husband's tenants."

29-ST-Jska:
"Ab?-Y?suf Ya’q?b ibn Ish?q ibn as-Sabb?h ibn 'omr?n ibn Isma?l al-Kind? (c. 801–873 CE; Arabic: ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??????), also known by the Latinised version of his name, Alkindus to the Western world, was a Muslim Arab scientist, mathematician, physician, and a talented musician. (from Wiki)"

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/29-YVERLOC-JSKA.jpg


30-AS-pan:
"Saint Brigid of Kildare (451 AD - 525 AD)
Named for the pagan goddess of fire, Brigid was inspired by the preachings of Saint Patrick and became a nun. She founded a monastery and a school of art and attained the title of abbess. Brigid's symbol is a cross woven from rushes which, legend tells, she gave to a dying man on the roadside to convert him."

30-ST-Nutter:
"Mu‘?w?yah ibn Ab? Sufy?n (Arabic: ?????? ?? ??? ??????)? (602 - 680) was the founder of the Umayyad dynasty of caliphs. He engaged in a civil war against the fourth Sunni Caliph and first Shia Caliph, Ali (Muhammad's son-in-law) and met with considerable military success, including the seizure of Egypt. He assumed the caliphate after Ali's assassination in 661 and reigned until 680."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/30-PAN-NUTTER.jpg


31-AS-2100:
"(Charlemagne) No info supplied.

31-ST-Silvi~e:
"Simeon The Great (866 – May 927)
Tsar of the First Bulgarian Empire
Simeon marked the highest point in the development of the Bulgarian Kingdom in the middle ages. In the first quarter of the 10th century Bulgaria is an unparalleled in south-eastern Europe and one of the most civilized states in the Christian world."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/31-2100-SILVI_E.jpg


32-AS-Jens:
"Genghis Khan or Temüjin by birthname, (ca. 1162–August 18, 1227) was a Mongol political and military leader or Khan (posthumously Khagan) who united the Mongol tribes and founded the Mongol Empire (1206 – 1368 ), the largest contiguous empire in world history. Born to the name Temüjin in the Borjigin clan, he forged a powerful army based on meritocracy to become one of the most successful military leaders in history."

32-ST-strych9ine:
"Godfrey of Bouillon (c. 1060–1100) The first Latin ruler of Jerusalem. He played a minor role at Nicaea and Antioch, but achieved prominence in the siege of Jerusalem (1099) and was elected ruler of the city after its capture. Having refused the title of king on religious grounds, he was designated defender of the Holy Sepulcher. He won the battle of Ascalon (1099) and brought several Syrian towns under tribute."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/32-JENS-STRYCH9INE.jpg


33-AS-shaoshao:
"St. Agnes
After refusing to marry a pagan king, he ordered her execution. They were not allowed to execute virgins so they put her in a brothel. But she was so pure that when any man looked upon her with lust was struck blind by God."

33-ST-alxcote:
"Edward of Woodstock (June 15, 1330 – June 8, 1376),
Prince of Wales, effective military leader, and very popular during his life.
(from wiki): Although Edward is almost always now called the "Black Prince", he was never known as such during his lifetime. He was instead known as Edward of Woodstock, after his place of birth. The "Black Prince" moniker does not appear in writing until at least 200 years after Edward's death. Its origin is uncertain; according to tradition, it derived from an ornate black cuirass (piece of body armor) presented to the young prince by Edward III at the battle of Crécy. However, it is also possible that the name was first coined by French chroniclers in reference to the ruinous military defeats he had inflicted on France or his cruelty in these"

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/33-SHAOSHAO-ALXCOTE.jpg


34-AS-NOSHOW (Zarett)

34-ST-Zanconato:
"Mine is based on a famous Icelandic viking and skald named Egill Skallagrímsson. He was born in Iceland in the year 910 and died some time around the year 990. Many historians consider Egill to be one of the deadliest men that ever lived in bladed combat- several accounts tell of him slaughtering as many as 20 or more armed men singlehandedly, and even dispatching a feared berserker with relative ease."

http://photos.imageevent.com/aljmary/castudentselftaught/34-ZARETT-ZANCONATO.jpg


35-AS-NOSHOW (Fixx)

35-ST-NOSHOW (Steve255!)

[Rich Pellegrino]

I didn't realize how many no shows there were. Still a sexy looking batch though.

[voraz]

Thanks Ilaekae, its nice to see all the entries paired.

[sve]

Wonderful work, Ilaekae, I feel like I'm in museum. Looks gorgeous. But where is your character? I hope you just forgot to put it. Come on, I want to see it.

[Ilaekae]

Mine won't be in the competition, sve, but once I get hold of JenZee and work out some details of timing, maybe we'll be posting both in the crit section. If not, I'll post mine there after this competition is over.

[sve]

If it's because you didn't post it on the 3th, I think you have a right to post anyway because you were organizing the event and it's time consuming. I would prefer you to post with the rest. I'm not making rules here, but I think it would be fair.

[masque]

a big round of thanks and applause to Ilaekae, people -- great job on the presentation! i dont envy the judges, they have what looks to be a tough job ahead. everyone should be complimented on their contributions.

[Ilaekae]

Sve, mine's a real painting. That means it needs photo'd. I discovered the camera I needed to do that with was faulty on new year's eve, so I stopped painting. No matter how i worked it out, I'd be at least a week late.

Besides, one of my original arguments against the timing on this competition was that JenZee, myself and a few others were going to be screwed royally time-wise unless the start of the contest was after new year's...something a certain bonehead didn't give a shit about, apparently, which WAS his right. I am happy with the pieces that were entered, though. I think you all did a really amazing job, except for a few "I didn't read the rules" mistakes here and there...heehee...

Some of the match-ups are incredible. I'm not sure who to put money on in your's, for example...

[sve]

Well, now we need to post it in FF section and notify judges, I think.

I see, Ilaekae, well, sad, I wanted to see your entry, I think 25th entry in Calendar was yours. Beautiful.

[Silvi~e.]

Thanks Ilaekae, they are all wonderful paired up together!
I agree with sve ... you should post your entry :)

S.

[Ilaekae]

It's nerd's duty to notify the judges. All the stuff they need is in place. If he want's, I can post this in the FF section, also.

[sve]

OK. we will wait. I will help him to notify judges though and Nellie might do the same too, i hope.

[Ilaekae]

As I said above, I will be posting it (after the judging) in the Crit section. Sorry I couldn't make it for the comp itself, but time was just too tight with all the commitments over the holidays...

Oh, and you're going to be a bit surprised, Sve. I'm actually not a bad painter, and it's nothing like my computer-done stuff...

[JL.Alfaro]

HEY MAN!
WTF?? you got me as an AS when Im supposed to be a ST...selfie man

eeeww...I feel dirty all over, my skin is sticky...gotta wash it off...eeeww

GO CHANGE IT MAN!!!

btw, great job looks awsome.(aside the fact that Im an as)

[sve]

Why do you think like that?

I always think good about people until they prove me that it is wrong :).

I read your advice about underpainting while working with oils, it was great. I think you have knowledge, I just want to see your art more often.

[JL.Alfaro]

Shit, not that it matters anyways-got no opponent :(

EDIT: I realized how bad that sounded right under sve's comment...
I was talking about my previous post...oops

[Ilaekae]

I fixed the setup, you cootie-ridden asshole...my bad.

Besides, now you might smell just a bit better after being called a schoolie to get your self laid more than once a decade...:nohope:

[Rich Pellegrino]

Thanks Ilaekae for putting that all together. Sorry I couldn't join you with the 30x40 painting. Next time ole chap! I'm excited to see what you piece will look like. cheers

[JL.Alfaro]

well thank you for correcting that ....and how do you know how much I get laid? ...and its twice a year for your information...jeez

cats...pfft..:rolleyes:

[Ilaekae]

My wife can't wait either...it's blockin' up the fuckin' living room like you wouldn't believe...:nohope:

[Rich Pellegrino]

haha. Are you painting it with a stick? I hear it slows the process way down... I do not recommend it!

[Ilaekae]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to paint with your stick when you're my age? I need a mirror just to find it...:wink:

[Leari_79790]

Great job Ilaekae, I would have done all this work myself but...ahh *ahem* yes....

I've contacted all the judges except Rebeccak, is that really how you spell her name? there's another chore for you my pet..

well thank you for correcting that ....and how do you know how much I get laid? ...and its twice a year for your information...jeez
hyuck, hyuck, hyuck
Believe me, JLA girls love a nerd with confidence, there's something so masculine in it that they can't resist..

[sve]

I have g-mail of RebeccaK, she gave it to me and asked to notify her when contest is ready to be judged..
Should we repost it in FF section, Nerdinger?

[ikuru]

this forum is overloaded right now, could someone plz post the link here?
Page twenty one will not open!

[sve]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83202&page=21

[ikuru]

thanx allot sve. going there now... Here´s a Mc fish for you. ;)
http://pds.exblog.jp/logo/1/200502/12/37/c0056037.jpg

[sve]

Heheh, you think it's fish. I know what they put in it. I can swipe my shoes with it and they will shine like new :).

[sve]

I don't understand your signals, Nerdinger... You think it should stay in this section only? I think it's a great and educational thread and lets people see it.
How do you hope to get comments when you are in recluse.

[ikuru]

Ilaekae Verry nice work there. One small thing, I couldnt help to notice you made mine smaller in height than flips, you did see it was zoomable right?
I´m sure you had your reasons though.

Will the resoults be posted on this thread you think?
Looks Verry cool all in all.
It would allso be nice to see your painting, any chance I can see your webpage?
Have not seen your digital art either.

[Rich Pellegrino]

ikuru, your should be slightly bigger than everyones, just for ego's sake. I mean am I wrong?

[Flake]

Bollocks, I forgot this was due with all the festive craziness*, apologies to team schoolmonkey and congratulations to Dile.
*yeah, I was "easily distracted" during the time I'd allotted for it.

My bad, I shall assume the "pussy" avatar for a few months.
Edit: done, hopefully.

[ikuru]

ikuru, your should be slightly bigger than everyones, just for ego's sake. I mean am I wrong?

Yeah, twice the size (I could see that one comming).

;)

I just seen that movie Mulan.

Really good actually.

She was a chinese hereo from our competition timeframe too.

Fought some 10 years in the army without anyone finding out she was a girl.

about 500 somewhere, its cool when you start to research history like that, loads of heroic wimmen there you just have to dig a little deeper to find some of them, thats all...

[chaosrocks]

beautiful Ilae..thank you ..I am seriously missing yours... and damn I didn't want to win by default....
poo

beautiful entries and good job all
I think we've proved handly that It don't make shits worth of difference if you went to school..if you care about what you are dooing

yay!
chaos

[ikuru]

started playing around with a new BG Idea, will probably go for something else in the end though...
Here is a link (http://www.ikuru.se/box/iku.jpg)If anyone is interested..

[sve]

I think we need at least post matches in a new thread. And I don't understand why you don't want to show our TD in a bigger part of the forum.

Well I'm not gonna talk more about that, but it is not a good attitude. You are making it look like it is not worthy to show. I think it is very interesting and unusual TD and people really educated me a lot. I love to look again and again at all entries and read descriptions.
Nothing is scary in FF section, the same people who are hanging out as in Lounge.

[Ilaekae]

Screw it...

I posted a duplicate of this with the original set-up in the finished section. The Admins can remove it if they think it shouldn't be there...

[Rich Pellegrino]

I think we need at least post matches in a new thread. And I don't understand why you don't want to show our TD in a bigger part of the forum.

Well I'm not gonna talk more about that, but it is not a good attitude. You are making it look like it is not worthy to show. I think it is very interesting and unusual TD and people really educated me a lot. I love to look again and again at all entries and read descriptions.
Nothing is scary in FF section, the same people who are hanging out as in Lounge.


Exactly. Every piece made for this TD is worthy of the FF section. There are too many good entries to pass it up.

[Leari_79790]

Screw it...

I posted a duplicate of this with the original set-up in the finished section. The Admins can remove it if they think it shouldn't be there...
Who would say no to more publicity and fame?

Some results in guys! don't worry I won't say that the selfie's have won, that would ruin the suprise right?

-Linger of Nerds.

[Ilaekae]

And thank you, Michael, for your efforts and time in judging this pile of crap...I mean...ummm...exquisite artwork by our distinguished practitioners of the 2D Media...

[t i m]

Ilaekae: Just a headsup bro, that wasn't my final you posted. My final had the arrow in the shot, kinda doesn't make sense with his expression, ya know?

[Blue]

Holy damn. Look at all those no shows! I handed mine in despite not being satisfied with it.

SLACKERS. oh my god.

[YVerloc]

Well, I'm feeling a bit of an anti-climax right now. The contest hasn't exactly ended with a lot of fanfare, just a slow trickle of discussion. I've still got a lot of momentum right now though. I don't feel like writing a lot of detailed critiques, but I'd love to do some overpaints if anybody wants some. I basically never draw or paint people, so I can't really help out much with anatomy problems. But I might be able the help out with lighting issues. I'll do them on a first come first serve basis until I tire out or have to go back to my real work life again. I'll send the overpaint back to you via email or private message, and you can decide for yourself if you want to post it in the tread for others to see. And I'd feel honored if anyone else wold like to paint on top of mine - go for it!

[Jens]

good work everyone!

[Mr-Joe]

Oh I'd love to see a paintover YVerloc, but don't go out of your way if you don't have the time its no big deal.

[ikuru]

Well, I'm feeling a bit of an anti-climax right now. The contest hasn't exactly ended with a lot of fanfare.
Too true. I wonder why that is thought. Working in the groups was the best expirience, but this thread has a weird vibe too it after the contest. Almost makes you tired looking at it.

About the paintovers, Id love to get one. Here is a link of my latest progress (http://www.ikuru.se/box/iku.jpg)If you, or anyone is interested..

thanx.

[masque]

one note about the side-by-side presentation: i strongly urge judges to use it as a valuable reference but to also visit the original submissions thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86130)'s links so they can see the submissions unaffected by a generation of reduction and jpegging. i hadn't visited the Image Ready link 'til this morning and it hadn't registered that the images there were not the same sizes as submitted.

[Zanconato]

If its not trouble YVerloc, i'd also like a paintover :) I know I messed my pose up pretty bad, i'd like to see how'd you change it.

[sve]

I would appreciate any crits and paint over very, very much. Thanks.

[Ostrander]

These look great side by side Ilae. I just want to say that this was one of my favorite tdomes I'd ever been in. Alot of smack talk slingin, and alot of fun getting to know everyone.
The only thing I regret is not getting a chance to participate in the private schoolie group and alotting more time to my work.The holidays were a big time consumer for me and this contest kept slipping down my list of priorities. With that said and the holidays behind us I suggest getting all of your collective asses over to the BATTLE TD (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86460&goto=newpost) for some serious quasi-self portrait-ish slaughter. (please see rules for a better understanding of the topic)

Thanks for all of your crits and comments sve, you're a very talented artist and a good person to boot! I'll be putting my money on you for our bout.:)

And Ilae, I wished I could have seen your round with JenZee. I hope you do finally post up a pic of it. Like say... in that sketchbook thread you always wanted to
to make but haven't gotten around to. :P

Oh and thanks to Nerdilingus for coming up with this TDome, it was a blast! :)

[Ilaekae]

Sorry for the mistake, t i m o t h y...

I corrected it in both places.

[sve]

Thanks, Glen, for kind words, my money on you. My piece is still too prickly and deformed, hard to swallow.

Thank you fro being a good sport, giving me a much needed knowledge while criticizing my piece, presenting me with wonderful paintover which I will keep in my folder and study more.\

Thanks for sweet laughs as well.

Hope you will create some fantasy pieces and send them to Spectrum, Exotique. expose your art more and more, because you need to do that and your art deserves it.

Thanks to Nerdinger for great idea of TD on history theme and for being a good sport as well. Hope we will beat schollies one more time in Enlightenment, Renaissances, century of great discoveries, late 19th century..

Thanks for Ilaekae for thoughtful, loving presentation of our images. That's a lot of respect to artists in the manner you did it, IMO. Hope to see your painting in one week, yeah , new deadline ;). Kidding of course/

I really want to hear more stories about you being Yippy and political cartoonist and 60th and maybe you encountered Hippies too. all this very interesting and exciting things to me. I would love to hear eyewitness of this.

[ikuru]

Great stuff everyone I guess we could start to post crit and such in the Other thread where the pics are now, even though the judge resoults are not in yet right?

And to everyone, Im sorry If I came out like some selfobsessed schmuck the other day. Im really just a noob learning how to paint.
It´s all about having fun (and getting filthy rich while doing so) right?

/Mr Ikky

[sve]

<<<It´s all about having fun (and getting filthy rich while doing so) right?>>> :^^:
Right, LOL.
Thanks for laughs too, ikuru. it was a good TD.
Yeah I will write crits today too., need to do some chores first though.

[Leari_79790]

Well, I'm feeling a bit of an anti-climax right now. The contest hasn't exactly ended with a lot of fanfare, just a slow trickle of discussion.!

I think everyone tired themselves out in the first 20 pages, staying up way too late talking all that smack. Also, some of the judges are a bit slow to get their score cards back in, I'm guessing on purpose, just to prolong your ravinous hunger for results.
Anti climax you say? why don't we have a retrospective competition. i.e

1. Funniest post in this thread
2. Best one liner in the thread
3. Best come-back in the thread
4. Most humble person in the thread
5. Most egotistical...

-Nerdling-diddley-inger

[sve]

Does RebeccaK know that it is her time to act now?

[Fellah.]

Dudes, some great stuff you came up with!!! I had a really hard time voting and it was not fun at all, hehe.
Just PMed my votes to Nerdlinger - hope it will not be too long before the rest gets their done.
I would like to crit the works sometime next week if it has any interest?

[sve]

I love your crtis, Simon, please do. One, two of your words are worth pages of comments. but please say as many words as you can ;). four words are better than three, ;). five are better than four. for me :).

[masque]

the more crits the merrier, i say -- always good to have different viewings and responses. it was helpful for me in the creative process, for sure.

i think the crits should be based on the submitted images (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86130) though, where they can be seen at their absolute best.

[t i m]

the more crits the merrier, i say -- always good to have different viewings and responses. it was helpful for me in the creative process, for sure.

i think the crits should be based on the submitted images (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86130) though, where they can be seen at their absolute best.

Yea the resize didn't help my cause, but it is what it is, and I definetly appreciate the time Ilaekae spent in posting all the images side/side.

[masque]

the side-by-sides are essential to illustrate the match-ups. but they aren't "as submitted." similar in ways to the diff between a very well-printed show catalog and standing right there in front of the art, y'know?

[ikuru]

I think everyone tired themselves out in the first 20 pages, staying up way too late talking all that smack. Also, some of the judges are a bit slow to get their score cards back in, I'm guessing on purpose, just to prolong your ravinous hunger for results.
Anti climax you say? why don't we have a retrospective competition. i.e

1. Funniest post in this thread
2. Best one liner in the thread
3. Best come-back in the thread
4. Most humble person in the thread
5. Most egotistical...

-Nerdling-diddley-inger
Yeah! I like this man! But If Im gonne do this, Im gonne do this right, and then Im gonne have too read the whole damn thread again since I cant recite nothing... So ehm, I will have to consider how to attck this fun adventure project....

Do we get paid or laid or something for particepaiting or should we just do it cuz its "fun" again?



Dudes, some great stuff you came up with!!!
I would like to crit the works sometime next week if it has any interest?
Yeah, Thanx Dude, Some Crit would be verrrry nice, thank u.

[Leari_79790]

Ikuru, just pick the quotes that you think are the best, I mean come on! it's not like I'd tamper with your results if you didn't pick me......hehe

Speaking of results, After all that flirting I did with the judges, I'm not feeling much loving in return..

[ikuru]

Well One thing is for sure, Im not gonne pic anything I said... (One stoning a week is all my ego can bare) But rember when we were talking about that prodogy starchild thing and I said that kid was the devil? that was priceless wanst it?, I mean common! You all laughed at that one! Or when Look replyed to sve that allot of us probaly wished that the kid had lived in the middleages, that was some fun shit, I tell you that!...
....

...Oh.

Thoes where the days huh?

Stuff like that doesnt come up so verry often in this thread no more...
It used to be more fun back then Dont you think?

Anyhow I will think about it. You did say allot of fun stuff neard, your a funny man. Like when you said we liked you like a father and a mother, shit like that, good healthy humor that everyone can enjoy.
Im drunk and need bed, need sleep, need need need.
what you gonne do right?

[Leari_79790]

Here are two of my favourites, although there are so many others.."When this is over, I am going to SOOOOOO enjoy stuffing you in a Clorox bottle and dumping you off the Clemente Bridge..." -ILAEKAE Ilaekae threathing me..again.

I say strip him of his duties and take over... Total anarchy... Just set something up Ilaekae. We'll all follow the yellow brick road you set out for us. After the New year would be great but, giving too much time isnt good too.. I say right after Christmas... Maybe the 29th?- Vigostar

Vigostar trying to lead the revolt, which I might add I crushed into a thousand pieces and sent Vigostar back to the firey depths of hell..haha yes! my finest hour.

Don't speak so soon Ikuru, I have yet to get to your embarassing moments..

[Leari_79790]

Don't worry everybody the judges have told me they will PM me the results any minute now....*ahem*

..but in reality I think that if we haven't got the results in by tommorow then we'll just go with the results Mike C and Fellah have given us. Whose down wit that?....well it doesn't matter if you are or not, it's my decision.hehe

-Nerdulizer

[masque]

wait for all of 'em.

[chaosrocks]

yeah... Davi'd disappearedd of irc... so he must be working at something
I mena it aint relevant to me I won by showing up and participating with all these ggreat folks

chaos

[Blue]

The question is... will the winners continue on to a second round?

[ikuru]

The question is... will the winners continue on to a second round?
now that would be something.
like a real LMS.

[masque]

The question is... will the winners continue on to a second round?if so, then we should definitely have a serious crit thread and judges' comments, so that some :yayca: non-school :yayca: learning can be incorporated in the new work.

[ikuru]

We never said this out loud but this whole TD was mainly all organised to help teach people without any proper education.
Allot of us schoolies where taking part as teachers really, voulentearing our free time to help you, the uneducated.
Hope no offence will be taken..
we did with love.

Yours Ikkiroo

[Blue]

No way, who would take offense to being called uneducated? wHats are pencel fur, taech mi? :P

[JL.Alfaro]

We never said this out loud but this whole TD was mainly all organised to help teach people without any proper education.
Allot of us schoolies where taking part as teachers really, voulentearing our free time to help you, the uneducated.
Hope no offence will be taken..
we did with love.

HA HA h a hu...offensive?? more like hilarious..
So let me get this straight...you guys (the schoolies) are doing us (the selfies) a favor by competing against us , for the overall purpose of teaching us "uneducated" fools a thing or two about art...right?
funny, I think most of the learning is happening on your side of the TD.

pfft...your ginormous ego might be saying that you're good, but this cockyness of mine says I can whoop your ass anyday, any TD....

[Leari_79790]

The question is... will the winners continue on to a second round?

1. If by winner you mean loser then yes there is a good possibilty that I would be in the second round...

2. On second thought, there won't be any second round, unfortunately for the schoolies at this early stage all the Selfies are winning. Even me. And even some of the selfies who didn't submit images are winning, because that's just how good we are...and for the last time, no I haven't tampered with the results...

-Nerdliar

[ikuru]

pfft...your ginormous ego might be saying that you're good, but this cockyness of mine says I can whoop your ass anyday, any TD....


Oh yeaaaah? You bark harder that you bite, little chicken!
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go down ona a Historical 2 hour speedpainting showdown with me?
the looser will have to paint a selfportrait in the nude with the text, Im sorry I Suck! and post it in this thread. Neard allone will be the judge!
:D

[JL.Alfaro]

Hoha!>:D

...careful man, you sure you wanna do this...I know how terrible it will be for your ego...if you loose.Theres trash talk and then theres putting your self out there in a tight vulnerable spot such as this.

whats your time zone? cause I think that would play a major role in a "timed" showdown...and that loosers' punishment is way too vague...I say let the nerd decide what the punishment will be.(then again I dont trust you two, you guys have been all buddy-buddy since this got started) I say three judges, preferably someone who can comment on their picks, like chaosrocks and sve.

OR....

you can wait a little longer and take me up on a TD Im about to start, promises to be one of the better challenges after this one.
My TD will feature a kick ass topic, with minimal to no research required
and a "pick your opponent" option. Freedom of artistic expression and totally conceptual in nature. I'm going to organize it myself-so it wont be as half assed(sorry nerd) as this one.
I expect all of you guys to be there, including the no-shows who disapointed everyone and the ones who didnt even know they were in.

[sve]

I'm already commenting like crazy. Give me a break.

[ikuru]

Ha, ha, Yah, well that sounds like a decent thunderdoome. So if Im reading you right your a bit to scared for my chalenge then?
I dont need the Neard for a buddy judge, and I dont see how timezone has anything to do with it.
You can ONLY work on it for 2 Hours and that is a honnor system, you post it here in the thread on a specific day, you can have any judge you like, bring your mom for a judge for all I care and we dont really need a punnishment... If neard came up with a punnishment it would be too weird for anyone.
LOL.
all jokes aside, dont take me to seriously, this was mearly a friendly fun idea, if you dont feel like it we wait for your TD and I take you on there instead. Anyhow its all cool man ;).

[JL.Alfaro]

I'm already commenting like crazy. Give me a break.

Hahaha! Im sorry sve, didnt mean to push you so hard, dont worry dear I'll give you a break...for now..hehe

Ikuru- Working on seting up that TD right now, see you there bud...

[ikuru]

Hahaha! Im sorry sve, didnt mean to push you so hard, dont worry dear I'll give you a break...for now..hehe

Ikuru- Working on seting up that TD right now, see you there bud...
fair enough dude. Give us a call when its on...

hmm... (looks around....)

[JL.Alfaro]

done.

The Gods At War Thunderdome (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1167141#post1167141)
is now open

I also have a prize in there somewhere, (hope Im not breaking the rules *crosses fingers*)

Ikuru- I left the spot for you and I still open on the matchups, just in case you change your mind...hehe

[Leari_79790]

4 judges have deliberated (against me) and we're still waiting for one more judge to deliberate (against me). AHHHHH maaan!!!

Also, I could be a great judge, I learnt from the 5 judges we have now how it's done, you turn up late, submit your results days after you should and vote against the devilishly handsome organiser..Simple!

-Nerdjudger

P.S I reckon the last results should come in in a few hours, Mike Dutton get judging!

HEY! JLAlfaro! you can't advertise in my thread!

[JL.Alfaro]

Its ok man, I'll let you be a judge in mine(now that you've seen how its done), what say yee?

Visions- if you make it back in here, you owe me one bro- time to pay the piper..

[Leari_79790]

Preliminary results update, IT'S NOT OVER YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Alrighty!!!!! I've tallied the results from 4 of the 5 judges and so far the standings are at 14-12 to the Selfies with 4 tie breaks left It's not over yet!!!!!!!. When Mike Dutton deliberates, we will have the winners!!!!! eeeee.

Just thought I'd give you an update, to tear you apart with suspense..
Speaking of suspense, here are the final 4 matches to decide.. the rest of you have either lost or won or lost.

1. Sve-Ostrander
2. Jens-Strychnine
3. Vorbiss-Blue
4. Flip-Ikuru

EDIT: Honourable mention went to Nerdlinger...

[Leari_79790]

Its ok man, I'll let you be a judge in mine(now that you've seen how its done), what say yee?

Yes! I'll be your judge. All that responsibilty will make me feel like a real man for a change.

Also, everyone needs to send PM's to Mike Dutton telling him to put down those pork rinds, stop watching Sesame street, get off the couch and get judging!!!!

[sve]

Wow, we are tie, Ostrander, I need your shoulder to cry on it. Unbelievable.
I'm gonna dare and guess, davi and MikeC went with Glen, the rest with me. Mike Dutton will break the tie.

[Leari_79790]

I've just got the last results in from Mike Dutton annnnnd The Selfies win!!!! ahahahaha yes!!! 16-14 it's all over!! the selfies rule Conceptart for 2007.:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: results:

Victors:
2. Sinix ST
3. Justin Oaksford ST
4. Noe ST
5. Fedezz AS
6. Virusartist ST
7. Timothy ST
8. llothcat AS
9. TRUZART ST
10. Beelow AS
11. Jfwalls AS ahhhhh! you scoundrel, you vested me!
12. Chaosrocks AS
13. Xenos ST
14. Dile ST
15. Rodriguez AS
16. Felicia AS
18. Masque ST
19. Voodoochile AS
20. Amer-nazri AS
22. Embee ST
23. MrGrumble AS
24. JLAlfaro ST
25. Yverloc AS
26. Pan AS
27. Silvi~e ST
29. Alxcote ST
30. Zanconato ST
31. Ostrander AS
32. Jens AS
33. Blue ST
34. Flip ST

Honourable mentions go to....drumroll please....

YVerloc and MrGrumble

Huhuhuhuhu I'm gagging. Victory!!!! we have victory! the infidel have been smited! conceptart is free. The age old question has been answered.:confident :confident :confident :confident :confident

[Ostrander]

Wow, I won! :D














and lost:nohope:

Seriously it was a fun ride.
Good job Selfies!!

[v0rbiss]

Aaaaarghhh, NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Where is my katana, I'll ritualy decapitate myself for betraing(sp?) my team! :xpld:

On a side note, mr. nerdlicker, are you sure you haven't offered some shamefull services to the judges, resulting in the totally ridiculous and UNFAIR voting? You don't have to answer, I'll be too busy crying and bleeding to death in my bathroom. :angel:

P.S. Grats to the GO team for the very much deserved win I'd say, since I'll be dead and won't be held responsible for those words from my own team. :P
It was very fun TD!

[sve]

Congratulation again, Glen, hehehe, I have two or three more places to lay down for you in waiting and surprise you with congratulation right at your head, with a bat or hammer, or something.
So, thank you so much ofr good fight, your victory is beautiful and fair.

[masque]

to gloat, or not to gloat, that is the question... ;)

good job by all, lots of very interesting and varied approaches and responses to the assignment.

[Noë]

yay.. :P I won! And we won too!!
I'm happy I entered my shitty character anyways.

love
Marleen

[ikuru]

Congratulations! And congratulations Flip.

How could we not win?
Anyhow It was a fun and educating time nevertheless.

[embee]

wuhahahaha!!! hehe

This was fun, i cant wait for the gods-td to begin...

[JL.Alfaro]

Its been awsome everyone, congrats to everyone that won, and great job to everyone that tried. Maybe next time I'll have an opponent to beat :(

and a big thanks to Nerd and Ileake and all the judges for taking the time to judge this crazy salsa mix,
THANX!!

[VirusArtist]

and a big thanks to Nerd and Ileake and all the judges for taking the time to judge this crazy salsa mix,
THANX!!


seconded!

[sve]

I'm gonna repost the results in FF section thread. Sorry, Nerdinger, to do that instead of you, but you sometimes forget to follow up my questions.

[Felicia]

Congratulations Team Self Taught!

Thanks, Nerdlinger, Ileake, and the judges.

[ikuru]

I just bought a king size screen. what a difference! Its gonne make me win everything from now on! GO BIG! Thanx neard. To me you are the real winner in all of this you and that cat with the hard name to write, Ileake.

[Mike Dutton]

Also, everyone needs to send PM's to Mike Dutton telling him to put down those pork rinds, stop watching Sesame street, get off the couch and get judging!!!

Nothing like a little suspense, right? :) Sorry to keep you all waiting. Congratulations to everyone for participating and to the winners. As a sidenote, I wish there was a way to judge based on historical accuracy as well, but it looked like the main criteria was figure drawing. Some of you had great figure drawings, but not the best reference for your costumes. Some went the other way around. But all in all, a great job. Thank you for having me on the panel. It was an honor..... especially the complimentary pork rinds.

[strych9ine]

Congrats winners and Jens, thanks for spanking me publicly sweetheart!

[Leari_79790]

Don't worry Vorbiss, I didn't tamper the results, when I realised us selfies had the majority of votes I thought there wouldn't be much point in that after all...:}

Thanx neard. To me you are the real winner in all of this.

"Thanks, Nerdlinger"

"and a big thanks to Nerd"

That's right, let it all out...let's monitor the love...

lastly, this is it guys it's just about over and I know we're all ready to go out and make everything right in the world, but as long as us selfies are still here I've got to ask if sometime in the future the "GO TEAM" wants to take on another group on CA? keep the old team alive!!:) :) :) :)

Peace out brothers!

-Nerdlinger.

[voraz]

great to see the results out. Thanks to the judges.
Congratulations to the selfies and to Embee (maybe we'll meet in another TD, he he!).
cheers

[mrgrumble]

Honourable mentions go to....drumroll please....

YVerloc and MrGrumble
Wowowowow - I can understand YVerloc, but damn! I think the judges musta been on something, but thanks alot for the mention! SOOO many amazing peices and top notch work. I'm hoping for the GODS AT WAR thingie I can come up with something better...

[alxcote]

Congrats to everyone~!

[Blue]

Hey cool, i won! A round of beer and hot wings are one me! :vodkamachine:


Well done all! Amazing entries, some were breath taking. I really didnt feel worthy to be in the same competition with some of you guys, you're brilliant artists. :yayca:

[joelhinxman]

yay nice job everyone.

now lets do it agin with a differant subject