help with perspective

[crisis]

Hi

anyone who can draw some guidelines for me, the perspective is way of, but i have difficulties fixing it by myself, so please help me with it before i continue the piece.

[Raptor]

too open of a mouth if that makes sence, the bottom corner of the bridge with the red light is bent torwards the viewer a little too much, pulling it up maby the level of where the lowest green light is might do allot. It just seems a bit fish eye, which i am not sure you are going for. Bacically the cealing and the floor are turned torwards the viewer, makeing ither of those more shallow of an angel will help

[crisis]

I've made an update. I think i figured some of the problems out, but isn't there still a problem with the end of the "bridge"? Closest to the viewer? Where can i read about perspective so i can get it all right, it's really time demanding to try your way thru..

[kawakaze]

the vanishing lines under the top side of the bridge that run flat should fade away to the same vanashing point as the end of the bridge. the way its reading now the bridge and the part above it are not on the same plane. i dont know if this makes any sense.

first figure out what parts you want to distinguish in your painting. from the looks of it you are trying to dramatacize the bridge at this angle, composition wise it looks really cool but you are right the perspective is off. im guessing you want to go simple w 2 point perspective, w that basically all the lines that distingush the length of the bridge and the length of the piece above it should all vanish to the same point. all of the lines that dictate the width of the bridge and those parallels on the ceiling should vanish to a second point which rest on the same line as the other vanishing point. chose your vps then follow the rule throughout the piece. you may also want to narrow the doorway a little bit to give the impression that the doorway is tall and narrow thus the bridge is narrow too. i dunno it looks cool though, keep it up.

[crisis]

Thanks

But im having some difficulties with the english explanation (Long time since i went to school). I'll throw my guidelines into the picture, maybe you can paint the 2:nd VP with green lines to help me? I really appreciate all the help i can get, thanks.

[shadegray]

your not keeping the consistency with the top portion of the bridge and the bottom of it. In laymans terms, your not skewing the bridge enough, so it appears thick and out of proportion. No worries tho, u can do that in less than 3 minutes in photoshop. :)

[rlederer]

Here try this:

http://www.raylederer.com/Forums/shiplines_PERSP.jpg

Good luck:)
-Ray

[evolutionofshaun]

rlederer got what I was gonna show. With two point perspective you have two vanishing points, and all your lines except for the verticals should recede to those points.

If you're using single point perspective your lines should all be parallel with the bottom of your page, vertical, or receding to your single vanishing point on the horizon line.

[jadefoodog]

think that just helped me with a few perspective questions i had

[crisis]

Thanks everybody who helped me, really nice.

But the picture didn't turn out as i wanted so i threw some ugly plants into it and it will be put in the not finished (and probably never will be) folder for now. But it was good practising the perspective, thanks again guys.