THE CONCEPTART ATELIER at the SEATTLE workshop!

[Layil]

Welcome to Insomania.

This Atelier is like a workshop within a workshop, for the special few that feel the call to get their hands dirty the old fashioned way. We have an awesome team of painters and they’re going to take things back a bit. As you know, the Workshop is going to be running all day. What do you expect from a bunch of inspired artists? We've been talking about it for long enough, now's our chance to make it happen.

Bring your oil paints and drawing pads, as the instructors take you through it. In response to requests from previous events, we're going back to a class atmosphere for the Traditional Demos. There is always a core group that sticks with Traditional media for the course of the workshop; knowing this, we want to offer them a curriculum to follow. We do our best to give everyone individual attention, but we also know that having a model placed in front of you can be intimidating to some, and we'd like to offer structured guidance to those that want it.

We aren’t leaving the rest of you out in the cold though... the classes are still going to be in Demo format, so you can sit in on just one and move on if you want. Some limited drawing materials will be available, but if this is something that really interests you, we recommend bringing your own. (See the Equipment and Materials List (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1075578#post1075578) for more on that.)

Now, with all this talk of structure, don’t think that we’re forgetting our roots, either. Spontaneity and a moment’s inspiration are what really make the CA workshops special, so we want to keep with the loose flow that has been our trademark. There will be a skeleton of a schedule, but much of the events in that area are going to depend on the amount of involvement from you. We’ll announce specific Demos with enough notice for you to plan if you want to come and will also take suggestions from attendees. We want to teach you what you wanna learn, ya know?

The instructors will be mic’d this time around, another request from Previous events. There will be sufficient light and space for comfortable drawing sessions, with plenty of models as well horses and easels available. The instructors will be lecturing on their process and materials, along with the one-on-one attention that was such a success last time.

Figure Drawing Basics, Anatomy, Rendering Form, Heads and Hands, How to start an oil painting, Materials, Composition, Gestures, Color theory for painters, working from reference and so much more…. These are just some of the things that the instructors will touch upon during the course of the workshop. If you’ve ever had an interest in oil painting or want to give figure drawing a try, swing by the Atelier to have a taste with some of the best painters alive today.

who are these guys?

we're proud and most pleased to welcome:


Brom
Todd Lockwood
El Coro
Carl Dobsky
Michael Hussar
Kevin Llewellyn
Shawn Barber
Andrew Jones
and more...



Here are some pics from previous workshops...Take this below image of the esteemed Mr. William Whitaker and scatter all the other instructors around with you. You will be surrounded by some of the best of the best. Take in everything you can. These artists have never been together in one place before. Take advantage of it.

[Interceptor]

Wow, looks great. Exciting stuff!!!

[romance]

Sounds great Layil.

As far as improvements from Montreal,...

I'd like to see/have more "assignments". Have 5-20 people grouped with an instructor who gives a subject, (i.e. character or creature design). The individuals in the group then design the topic as the instructor goes around and critiques/helps each student look for their weaknesses and ways to expand on their design creativity. This would be a class atmosphere, like the Atelier, but without a model.

I think this sort of hands-on setting would be a great way to learn directly from a pro/pros and our peers, before and while we create. Basically an interactive version of the the Critique Center. This could work as a larger group as well, if more than one instructor is involved in the process. Though, a pre-workshop sign-up sheet might be necessary if it's more desirable to keep the groups smaller and more manageable.

I have only been to one previous workshop, Montreal, so I hope this idea, isn't too redundant, or was actually planned for the Atelier portion of this SF WS.

-Rob

[timpaatkins]

I dont need anything fron Santa this year, all my wishes just came true (except for Spidermans powers and neverending wads and wads of cash)

This is exactly what i was hoping for. Thank you all, Im looking forward to this very much!

[Jska]

This sounds absolutely wonderful !! I agree, this is better than xmas presents (or in my case, b-day presents!)

[joelhinxman]

wow that sounds like its gona be awsome. its been so long since i worked form a model and i love to do that agin.

one question. you say bring oil. does it need to be oil? i very much prefer oil over acrylic the only thing that concerns me is i think its kinda hard to move a wet oil thing around and put on a plane back home and all that. would acrylic be ok? i know it says look at list but i didnt see one yet thats why im bugging ya about it.

[Unbreakable]

This is going to be an amazing experience!!!!

[skvv]

Instructor list rules plain and simple... Definitely dropping in for as much as I can stand.

[aesir]

Just one thing I wanted to chime in about. At the last SF workshop when some of the instructors had mics, I noticed that demos were set up rather close to each other, and the talking from one demo could drown out another unless you were just in the right spot, either next to the instructor who was talking, or the speakers. Sooooo, hopefully this time people with mics will be spaced far enough apart so no one is drowning anyone else out.

[Jedmo]

This sounds really great guys. Even though it might mean missing out on other parts of the workshop, this sounds too great to pass up. Sign me up, I'll stick with it through the whole thing. Thanks for setting up all these great features for the workshop. I cant wait.

[archnemesis dbal]

would acrylic be ok?

Where is the Equiptment list? I'm most comfortable with acrylics but if they're not being instructed on, then I could try to learn a little oil painting.

[gorgnut]

Wow, this just made it really hard for me to not go totally crazy. Been beating myself up cause I didn't spend more time observing trad. painting in Montreal. If i somehow make it to this one, I will probably spend all my time in the atelier :rendered:

Montreal just had issuses with the sounds leaking from diffrent areas and sometimes it was a bit lack of chairs. If you can fix that it would be great :rendered:

[donkeyslayer]

i am totally sitting next to Molly, and beside Rich in the second picture.

I agree with romance on the assignment point. it's also a good way to flex what you can do in a short period of time for the companies that are sure to be visiting. however, drawing a random person of the opposite sex was pretty fun also. employ the fine art tools to do the design work.

<3

[Rebeccak]

Great, more reasons to commit seppukku :P

[seansea]

Just when you thought it can get no better. I can't wait!

[ricksmith]

Wow...this sounds amazing. An atelier that runs an entire 24 hours?!? Hell yeah!

Will the topic of painting/drawing the clothed figure be approached as well? Hopefully I didn't miss that somewhere in this thread.

[ricksmith]

Excellent! "Freaks" drawing "freaks". Does it get any better? :confident

[silvestri99]

2 questions remain.
When is the actual registration? and Where is the suggested materials list? Both would be really useful...:bashful:

[Unbreakable]

Hey when is the materials list going up? I would like to start buying my supplies.

[edit] wow that's wierd we post almost the same thing at the almost the same time.

[Layil]

materials list is here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1075578#post1075578)

and you can start registering as soon as the site is up, in a day or two.

:)

[Justin.]

I am totally about to burst into tears ='(

[Idiot Apathy]

Sweet, I just registered. WOOO! I'm so broke.

[romance]

Romance: thanks for the suggestions. this thread deals specifically with the Traditional Media Atalier at the workshop, but ill take you ideas into consideration for the digital demos as well. :)

Thanks Layil. I wasn't completely referring to digital, though, sitting around in a group, pounding out designs on laptops with the pros would be damn fine. Doing it on paper would be pretty cool too. ;)

Thanks a bunch,

- R

[romance]

Sweet, I just registered. WOOO! I'm so broke.

Me too Tom. See you there.

[Icon]

Ah, I hope they do this again in other workshops :P The ones I can attend

[Shamagim]

Nevermind, I´m going.

[Malicious Panda]

Ah man, I'm from Las Vegas, and this is the first time I'll ever go to a workshop, really looking forward to attendning, since I only got about 10 months of getting into art, and I'm really looking forward to learning a lot more stuff from all the pros, just need to figure out where to stay and how to get there, this type of stuff just gets me more psyched. :D

[Interceptor]

Panda, if you're looking at group hostelling, give me a shout in PM. We'll do our best to work you into the group. We can figure something out. Workshops are life changing, without exaggeration.

-Loren

[nonie]

Fate is smiling upon me finally learning to paint traditionally... I am so all over this atelier. Already got most of the supplies in the list... I love how oils look, now I'm finally gonna try them, and here you've got like a million AWESOME painters to learn from. I CAN'T WAIT :D

[Jason Manley]

Thread updated for the Seattle workshop

[Blue Severin]

I'm thinking of bringing my French Easle along, will their be enough space for something like that?

[Rabid]

Can't wait to look over and get critiqued by Llewellyn! Very excited!

[Earendil]

I will cherish and absorb all feedback.

Jason, thank you! Todd Lockwood rocks, I need to bring one of my Drizzt covers. :)

[Jason Manley]

you may bring your easel...if there is space feel free to set up. it is going to depend on the total number of signups but usually there is plenty of space.


j

[jbuck]

i have a few quick questions:

i dont think this will be much of a problem, but i have to ask anyway. if there are going to be more people painting this time than in previous years, will there be adequate ventilation for the fine arts painting area? especially, seeing as how it is recommended to bring oil paints. (i love oil paint, btw)

will there be designated drums or containers to dump turps? i imagine that it wont be too pretty dumping all that turpentine and stuff down the sink.

speaking of the sink, will there be facilities to wash brushes and stuff? im sort of OCD about my brushes being somewhat clean.


thanks.

[Jason Manley]

You will have what you need to make due.

Come with the mindset that you are going landscape painting and will be roughing it. There are always plenty of people painting. I would prefer if you avoided dumping anything at the event, thank you. We will NOT be doing your waste disposal in that fashion. As an oil painter, back in the day, who grew to avoid using terps, I personally push for staying away from that foul stuff, but to each their own.

Brushes are best cleaned in the sink with dishsoap (a grease cutter like dawn or the like). People will be expected to clean up after themselves.



;)

[Sickbrush]

you know.. i just wish massiveblack would still be organising workshops when i'll be able to afford one..
big thumbs up from romania, i'm anxious to hear about all the brainmelting there so i'm wishing you guys the best of luck!
keep making art history.

[Jason Manley]

well, android and i both loved bucharest. I think we had more fun there than any other city in europe, so maybe someday we will return, even if for just something smaller and more close knit in setting.

[RobRey]

Hey, I'm signing up!

Now, I'm trying to get my plane tickets all figured out. When exactly does the event begin and end? Friday night to Monday morning? All day all four days? I just want to make sure I don't fly out of Seattle too early, but I don't really want to pay extra nights at a hotel/hostel if I can avoid it.

[RogerAdams]

i have a few quick questions:

i dont think this will be much of a problem, but i have to ask anyway. if there are going to be more people painting this time than in previous years, will there be adequate ventilation for the fine arts painting area? especially, seeing as how it is recommended to bring oil paints. (i love oil paint, btw)

will there be designated drums or containers to dump turps? i imagine that it wont be too pretty dumping all that turpentine and stuff down the sink.

speaking of the sink, will there be facilities to wash brushes and stuff? im sort of OCD about my brushes being somewhat clean.


thanks.

Hi jbuck,

Check out this article that William Whitaker wrote for the Insomania workshop. It might have all the information you need to practice with the instructors.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=82562

[Jason Manley]

you are going to want to arrive thursday night. flying in friday morning will leave you exhausted. The hostel is 2o bucks or so...and thus worth getting in the night before or even two before so you can meet up with all the others who are showing up.

Just some input...the events usually start between ten and eleven..official start times will go up soon when we launch the website.


j

[imperess]

wow, this is super cool!! I am very excited about this workshop!!!
I will deffinatly plan on bringing paints, pastels, charcoal etc (gods i will be a pack mule LOL)to get the most out of this experience!



I would also like to know more about clean up facilities, and or if water mixable oils are perhaps a better option?

~Carol

[Blue Severin]

I'm bringing the water mixable, as you can take them in checked baggage on airplanes. I don't know if security will let you pack normal oil paints. If not, you could always go the four color option from the materials list, fairly inexpensive.

[silvestri99]

As far as buying supplies..there is really only one art supply store in town within walking distance and it still isn't all that close....Utrecht. Unless another sea-town resident knows of anything downtown. There is also Daniel Smithand Seattle art supply but you would have to drive to both locations. Try to bring what you need.

[S!R]

There's always Aaron Bros. Its walkable from the WS.

Aaron Brothers - www.aaronbrothers.com
1513 3rd Ave, Seattle - (206) 262-0650

Not as huge a selection as the ones mentioned by Silvestri but an option none the less for folks not wanting to venture too far...

[Whirligigs]

sorry I'm prolly just being stupid and not seeing it, but where do we sign up for this?

[S!R]

Whirlygig- I dont believe you need to sign up for this specifically..I believe once you are paid and signed up for Revelations you are fine to participate in this.

If you are unclear as to what Revelations is, there are many threads on it in the events section of this here forum.

Cheers.

[Whirligigs]

Whirlygig- I dont believe you need to sign up for this specifically..I believe once you are paid and signed up for Revelations you are fine to participate in this.

If you are unclear as to what Revelations is, there are many threads on it in the events section of this here forum.

Cheers.


oooh ok. I see now. Thanks! :-)

[Sig.NAL]

Jason, i apologize if you've been asked this numerous times, there's more and more info flying around on all the Revelations threads that it's becoming harder to track specifics down. I commit all I can to memory but anyway here goes:

How long does the workshop last everyday? 6 hrs? More, less? Will i be ushered out by janitorial staff if i'm working later or will that not be an issue?

Other question, do you guys have an idea as to what time each day it will begin? This isn't really important so don't answer if you don't really know, it just crept into my head after the other questions. Thanks for your hard work and patience with all of us! |../

[Silveraxe]

wow this looks very exciting!! can't wait for january!! :D

[Zaxser]

You will have what you need to make due.

Brushes are best cleaned in the sink with dishsoap (a grease cutter like dawn or the like). People will be expected to clean up after themselves.



;)

Really? I could never get my brushes clean without a little turpentine. Whenever we tried to clean, our teacher just handed us a bar, and eventually I gave up with that. I'll give this a shot though.

[tobi]

Call me stupid, but it seems as if we have to do another sign-in for the atelier, and I can't find the spot where to do so…
Please help me out of my disorientation, thank you.

[Craig D]

tobi
You don't need to do a separate sign in.

[jbuck]

thanks for the reply jason and roger.

[Jacob Kobryn]

I am very much wanting to learn how to oil paint but I am also trying to learn digital art. In the long run I will spending more time in the digital room than at the atelier (except for those few epic hours were Todd Lockwood and Brom will be painting from there imagination! :O ). I have all of the materials needed for the atelier. My question is whether or not you think it would be worth bringing both my laptop/tablet and my oils. That's a lot to carry and keep track of. I don't want anything stolen...

Also I was thinking about bringing a video camera and tripod to film the lessons for my own use. Is this ok? If needed I'll sign a waver saying that it's only for my own use and not for the public.

Thanks,
Jake

[luki God of Mischie]

tyyyr

[Justin.]

Jake it was already addressed that there is to be no filming... period

[Jacob Kobryn]

Ahhh... thats too bad. I'll just have to take more notes then!

[Craig D]

Jake
There is a case to be made to you bringing all of that stuff with you.
However I'm just going to recommend you bring only a sketchbook and pencils/pens etc.
Watch everything, draw and take notes and then go home and go nuts trying all of the different media there.

[RogerAdams]

Hey Jake,

Follow Craig D's advice. Travel light - very light if you want to try and catch as much as possible. Wear good walking shoes, bring an extra pair if you can (it was pouring in Montreal). Also take some work to show on the last day. Ask the pros what you can do to get better. Right down what they say.

I brought a video camera to Montreal, what a complete waste of time. I was more concerned about keeping the camera steady than actually listening to the demos. After the second day, I packed it up and just paid attention. If I had to do it over again I would have snagged a chair behind Hussar, Dobsky, Barber, DS and never move.

Have a good time!

roger

[A.Weaver]

This sounds awesome, I really want to do this. Sounds intense but so much fun!!