Ev's sketchbook , just stop by and help an artist, leave some c+c

[Evxyza92]

This page is way too old!!! help me out by checking my latest pages!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/untitled.jpgi finally got it and here is my first of hoprfully many sketches and ideas of minetell me what you think i did that a while ago and it took me around three days to finish at random times

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/kanos1.jpghttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/lizard1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/samurai.jpg

maybe i sgould of posted a cuople more pics instead of just one so again tell me what you think of all of them

[Evxyza92]

can i please get some critique thats all i want to get some tips you all that type of stuff

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/illupo.jpg

i drew this a while ago i dont know why but when i draw dogs or wolves i do that thing under the eye:traced: :traced: :spam: :lens:

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/illupo.jpg

i drew this a while ago i dont know why but when i draw dogs or wolves i do that thing under the eye:traced: :traced: :spam: :lens:im still lookin for someone to repond and critique my work

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/birdmanwarrior.jpg

[Evxyza92]

:[ http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/0007.jpg

this is my 007 he is gonna be called 0007 critiques please:spam: :xbox: :\

[Evxyza92]

:vodkamachine: :ninja++: :angel: :pump: :heart: :ad: :aa: :an: :au: :ac: :ah: just puttin this up there for some critiques you know some help with my stuff

[Evxyza92]

:needle: i did this a while back and it came out pretty well it was mainly practice forfor faces shadowing on clothes and and some other stuff
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/man1.jpg:x :P

[Evxyza92]

his is my practice face the ear is what i need alot of practice with in my opinion
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/facepractice.jpg:yayca: :dad: \w/ :sony:

[KixX]

Hey Evxyza,

You are off to a nice start here, I can see you have quite an imagination going here but to show your idea's off better you have alot of work ahead of you. The thing I would suggest first is buying some book on anatomy and face proportions (the books from Andrew Loomis would be a great start) and just copying and understanding them.

This will ofcourse take alot of time and dedication but it will pay off.

Good luck with everything!

[Evxyza92]

thanx for replying man and well ive studeid some human anatomy but just enought to get by. what i do know i have to work on is face proportions and i have drawn my entire life, like since i was in first grade and now i am in 9th grade. i as you can seehave done alot and have a good imagination and ive studied lizard and bird anatomy to create the lizard man portrait and the bird warrior ill post back on the bird warior im stil throwin around ideas on what they would look like thanks for the advice. i have gone and googled for online tips t draw the nose lips and eyes and hair but my forehead and ears are what i think i really need to work on./m\ :perv: :xbox: :sony: :360_old: :nintendo: :xpld: <3 >:| :zzz: :dur:

[oalexis]

thanks for dropping by my sketchbook. It's good to see that you're enthusiastic to draw, but you need to practice frmo life before you can accurately draw things frmo your mind. I would suggest that you start drawing frmo life immediately. go to a park and just draw what you see. An easy way to do this is to keep a small sketchbook with you at all times. Whenever you have a spare 15 min just pull it out and get something down. The more you practice the better you'll get. If you'd like to start drawing people, draw from reference, people in real life preferably. Your current drawings are lacking correct proporions, and mostly all have stiff boring poses. The exception being your dual wielding samurai, his posing is pretty dynamic. If you practice daily (aim for an hour) you'll start to see improvement! Good luck.


head proportions like you wanted (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=115)
more heads at angles (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=30)
heads (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=12)
more heads (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=18)

if you want similar ref, do a google search for loomis anatomy, first link has tons of resources.

[Evxyza92]

thanks for dropping by my sketchbook. It's good to see that you're enthusiastic to draw, but you need to practice frmo life before you can accurately draw things frmo your mind. I would suggest that you start drawing frmo life immediately. go to a park and just draw what you see. An easy way to do this is to keep a small sketchbook with you at all times. Whenever you have a spare 15 min just pull it out and get something down. The more you practice the better you'll get. If you'd like to start drawing people, draw from reference, people in real life preferably. Your current drawings are lacking correct proporions, and mostly all have stiff boring poses. The exception being your dual wielding samurai, his posing is pretty dynamic. If you practice daily (aim for an hour) you'll start to see improvement! Good luck.


head proportions like you wanted (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=115)
more heads at angles (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=30)
heads (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=12)
more heads (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=18)

if you want similar ref, do a google search for loomis anatomy, first link has tons of resources.thanks for the links and about the samurai i had to erase alot of stuff to get it like that ill post either by 9:30
or around tomorrow witha bunch of practice with notes thanx for the help guys:donk: >:D :rolleyes: :android: :sony: :xbox: :360_old:

[Evxyza92]

i drew tis lat night while my puppy was sleeping fortunately it was quick enough before she moved
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/mypuppy.jpg:spam: :nohope: >:{ :wink: :lens: :yawn: :360_old: :sony:

here is some practice of a profile
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/profilepractice.jpg0

[Evxyza92]

:xbox: :sony: :sony: tell me what ya think
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/deadlymachine.jpg:bashful: :[ :\ :}

[Sartell]

I would suggest saving up some money and buying a bridgeman or hogarth figure book. Not only are they useful for the most beginning of beginners but they will continue to help you for the rest of your life in most cases:) I would suggest just drawing figure after figure, maybe take a class at a community college or at your school for figure~* That recent profile is a big improvement from the one yesterday, good start I hope to see more.

[Evxyza92]

:sony: :360_old: :xbox: i dont mean this to dis anybody , but the reason im studying all this realistic stuff like my current profileis so my comic books will have a better edge when im older, because im only 14 and my art teacher dont focus on stuff like this, but anyway stuff like the lizard man anbd samurai is what i focus on drawing and i dont now why but i just draw it but thanks for all the help with my drawing:} :bashful:

this is another profile that i just did
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/profilepractice2.jpg

[Evxyza92]

8) anywa sry i copuldnt do any practice today i did a piece of work for the critique center any way please tell mme about the profile i did thats above here the latest one:donk: :rolleyes: :blahblah: :upset: :yayca: :sony: :360_old: :xbox:

[Evxyza92]

i di this one a while back like in july near the end i tried to focus on getting structure but its kinda weird hes just floating there anyway tell me how i can fix it and yes i am studying anatomyjust for ur info
flying gun man
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/flyinggunman.jpg:yayca: :D :android: :xbox:

[Frumious Me]

One thing I noticed is that you seem to have a decent understanding of anatomy, you just bury it under big 'fill in the blank' shading. Try shading slower with smaller strokes. The second portrait there looks closer to this, although you're still doing a big general gray-over on the back of the head. Her eye is a little too high and long. Seen from the side, eyes are squatter than that. Her lips are also a little long. Especially with the line at the corner of her mouth, it looks like she's pulling her lips back like a frog or something.

With your smaller full-figure drawing, have you tried drawing a framework before clothing and rendering them? A loose skeletal system of shapes: Ovals for the head, chest, and pelvis, lines for the arms and legs. Because from the lizard-dude and the profiles, it seems like you have a good idea of how muscles and bones fit together. It's just not very evident in the smaller drawings.

Keep it up, and happy drawing!

[Evxyza92]

:blahblah: thanks for the reply and not suggestiong to buy a book no offense but that gets old after the first reply ill post some more by tonite with some good studysor a bunch of stuff that i like to draw

[Evxyza92]

:spam: :sony: :xbox: anyway its almost 5:45 and here is my practice

i did a profile i think i messed it up a bit but it came out okay the hair was a ballbuster though
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/girlsprofile.jpg

and some practice with the female figure
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/femaleformpractice.jpg

thanks for the help if anyone replys

[Frumious Me]

The portrait has the same problems as your previous one. The body kind of looks like a Barbie doll: overly small waist, and boobs are pretty much always lower than that, unless she's actually flat-chested and wearing some kind of combination water/stuffed/pushup thing.

Maybe try studying one specific part of the face or body? Drawing JUST a nose or eye, or JUST someone's arm? But take just as much time (or more) than if you were doing one of your current portraits. Really try to get everything right!

I'm not too clear on your animosity about books/study. How are you referencing your current drawings? Drawing from life can be good, but books are still indispensable for the information on how to see and measure something for an accurate picture. Maybe people wouldn't keep bringing it up if you posted a little less often? I don't mean offense though! It's just that very rarely will people have something new to say on two similar drawings a day apart. You're posting over 2 drawings a day right now. Maybe cut back to only posting stuff you felt was a visible improvement over a previous post or when you attempt someone's suggestion.

(Don't shoot me! :bashful:)

[Evxyza92]

:} this is one of my charcters and i draw him frequently so im gonna try to study anatomy and all that other stuff but i really want to focus on stuff like this cuz this is what i am good at drawing:confident :spam: :( :confident

boulderdash
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/boulderdash.jpg

[Evxyza92]

sry o i have been pretty busy lateley but here is something o drew last night and i still hate my art teacher we are doing still lifes

a futuristic soldier for the snow
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/futuresnowsoldier.jpg:lens: :lens: :lens: :lens:

[Evxyza92]

:wink: this is mmy early morning profile tnx for stopping by i need to do some comic art if i can today that is what i need help with

profile number 4
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/profile3.jpg:lens:

[Poison_art]

you have some nice starting points, look at the human facial features in more detail to help with ur proporting of the eyes and the lips.

look at the deatil of the eyes and it will help give your facial drawings a more realisic look try and do some full face views it'll help u proportion things a little better then try the side views again but a lovely starting points keep up the good work add colour to some of ur drawings too to help show whats going on in the images so the viewer has a more clear idea of whats going on

[Evxyza92]

\w/ \w/ \w/ \w/ :yayca: :yayca: \w/ \w/ an old pic its the last of the italy lizard pics on my computer

a lizard kicking alot of ass
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/lizaedkickingass.jpg

[dinodog_Jr]

Yozz man..
U got the imagination in ur pencil tips. somehow, what u lack is a proper anatomy studies(Like me do).

Dun look down on anatomy studies(I used to be... i am studying now oso), put more hardwork & study in dat lesson. Later on, mixes up ur design & concept wif ur understanding anatomy.

I bet ur drawing goin to take a big major leaps~!.

the spirit is going on here.. !

[Evxyza92]

thanks man i want to go somewhere with this but if i dont ill at least always draw after all im only in 9th grade and i am in an art class for a requirement and stuff like this is wht captures my interest. i have been drawing since i was in first grade it was my art teacher back then, i got one award for a safety picture for a phonebook, she was kinda proud of that besides her my mom also incourages me to draw

[misledtomisery]

you lack realism in you pics and it really shows especially with dragons they are a very hard concept to draw and even i cant do that well. look at snakes hawks and tigers and cheetahs that will keep the dragons anatomy at least something beliaveable and im not one to rant but there is alot of room for improvementalso try new medias such as ink pick up a ink artist pen try that switching medias might start some ....some you know talent or skill, google dragons and copy start to meld ideas together and youll pick it up but this isnt picking it up nor a dragon.

this is solid advice from you. i hope you follow it.

i personally think you should worry less about details at this stage in your art. focus on form. if you want to eventually do comic book type art, i recommend getting the book "How to draw comics the Marvel way". It might be still a bit advanced for you, it will slowly get you to look at form and proportions.

Do exercises (homework) with form. take magazine figures, google search figures, use old master drawings....whatever, and use tracing paper to copy the figure as basic shapes (spheres, boxes, and cylinders, not circles and squares, make sure they are forms...). start memorizing the figure in relation to itself (the arm length to the whole body, the chest scale compared to the head, width of shoulders and hips...etc) after breaking the figure down, then have fun with details. develope a solid foundation in form before trying to jump forward to fantastic creatures and characters.

hope that helps some, and gets you progressing on the right track.

[Evxyza92]

hey sry for not posting some stuff in a while but here is a pic i did today , its weird but its an angel wolf i used an ebony pencil for the shading since that is what we are using in my art class right now

angel wolf
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/wolfwing.jpg

[BludHund]

Thanks for the comment. The important thing is to constantly keep improving and to never be satisfied with your current level. You're young enough now that if you don't get sidetracked you could be a real ass-kicker by the time you finish school.

Two things I can recommend right off the bat to improve your own technique are: draw from life (yeah, I know, easier said than done) and to concentrate on proportions and "negative space" more than on details and outlines. Sometimes just letting your eyes unfocus a little and rendering everything in blocks of shadow can help a lot.

[liquidjack]

You are a pretty young artist (which is great). Take the advice these guys/gals are giving you for free. When you get to college, I can almost guarantee you will here the same thing from a professor you will pay for.

Also, if you want to stick with the fanstasy type art.....why not mix it with real (REFERENCED) stuff. Like....take a picture of some gal in a swimsuit and maybe add wings of a dragon or legs of a goat......whatever. The main thing is you draw from a reference (not comics or other fantasy pics) and add something to make it sci fi.

[Evxyza92]

actually thats what i do i have what my art teacher calls a good eye, means i thinkthat when something is in front of m,e or i get a good shot of something i can ananlyze and copy pretty well i dunno

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/boulderdash2.jpg

[Evxyza92]

new sketch too tired too put in detail i used my dogs for reference and tried to copy a rotweilers face

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/cerberus.jpg

[dinodog_Jr]

Evxyza,
Do u mean ur mom discourage u to draw? If yes, i am sorry to hear dat.

i think ur teacher is good-hearted to encourage u to keep on the art spirit. Maybe u should ask for serious critics in a more direct way.
They are adults who dun like to be a bad one to talk bad against youngers heart. (But my secondary Art teacher wouldn't even bother u if u draw bad. He tot u r helpless & talentless..haha.. Very Different culture btwn us,rite?)

U might be satisfy wif ur current skill & will keep spinning in the current standard skill. The improvement could be slow.

Since u like to draw reaslitic object. If u got no proper source to study the foundation in anatomy knowledge. Reference might help u draw more accurately.
(Dun feel shame to draw wif reference, alot of good painting was helped by pictures references. U may ask around if u curious bout this techniques.)

[Evxyza92]

cool but my mom encourages me to draw but it was my art teacher in first grade that got me started advancing from stick figure tobodies and some summer comic classes got me drawing comics and really into it and i am starting to create charc ters and i got two series in my head but i have to work oin a cuople more characters like the one that says boulder dash hes one of my characters in a comic called boulder"s dash he is a scientist that not knowingly was working with natzi scientists and an explsion in an attempt to found a pure energy/perpetua motion and he is imbued with the ability to control kinetic energy and it allwos him to create kinetic energy blasts from a simple discharge that'll knock you back to a enclosed fist atombomb that can shred steel and actually rip apart atoms into simpler compounds, he has a cuople enemies and ill post them up i wanna work on him his powers are coool in my opinion

[Evxyza92]

sorry ive been un able to post again in a while but i drew this and it came out weird puppies dont stay still for very long lol
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/lucylou.jpg

[Evxyza92]

i used a refrence pic aand it came out ok tell me how it is
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/firehorse.jpg

[BludHund]

Good to see you working from references Evxyz. Some of the proportions on this horse(?) are a little off. It looks squished together lengthwise. Also it seemd more sketchy than it needs to be...like all the lines don't come together.

Do some more like this...once the angles and proportions are drilled into your hands, you won't even have to think about it.

[Evxyza92]

thanks i got a new sketchbook to focus on some fictional stuff

[Sketch]

Your Flying Gun Man is slick! Even though the anatomy is off, it has something about it that I really like.

[Evxyza92]

sry sry sry and some more sorry i havent posted in a while so here is a post to the new years cheers..... and to start to update this damn thing regularly here is a post i did over the vaca from school for christmas

the samurai 2
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/samurai2.jpg

[Evxyza92]

sry here are two more pics one of them is done the other i amc ompoeting tomorrow

the new one
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/dog_perspective.jpg

the old complete one
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/demon.jpg

[Evxyza92]

sry for not posting this time its just that anyone that looks some crits and comments would be liked mostly with the demon pic.

:lens: :lens: any with that dog pic its old i just cant upload right now sry bout that but i need some crits thanks

[liquidjack]

Well done
You took your time with these and added some color. The guy is just fine. I can't say too much about proportions because of his seemingly cartoonish genre (usually anatomy and proportions are off). The dragon dog is pretty good. You really caught the dark emotion the reference portrayed (if it is referenced).

Keep hitting the reference stuff buddy. Learn some more about the human and canine anatomical setup.

[Evxyza92]

liquidjack: thanks man for commenting anyway the demon dog it isnt a pic from reference and the dog pic i had to look at a cuople of pics for thw wakizashi but it came out nice and some pics helped with the dog

anyway this is that dog pic from earlier it cam out nicely i wish i used a model for the guy but it cam out okay http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/cb13b923.jpg


this is a new pic half done colored sry but i am starting to wear down on exciting colors it might look a little fruity i used a model for both guys http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/7d9b5c36.jpg

[Evxyza92]

sry but nottin new today just asking for some crits and comments thanks i'll hvae that duel pic finished by tomorrow

[Evxyza92]

well i got a cuople quick doodles for today but not much else the girls face the eye i scrwed up a bit but the overall shape i think came out okay and if ya read and view plz comment and crit

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch_1.jpg

[Lee W]

really nice imagination :) but as others have stated, you should do some anatomy studies and sketch from life/ref. Doing so will help you draw what you like better :)

[Achadobu]

its good that you draw from imagination, keep it up. my advice though would be to try to think in terms of simple 3d shapes when you draw, right now your drawings are flat. get a book by burne hogarth or george bridgman

[TGping]

when you scan everything you should mess with the contrast/levels just so we can see a little better, that'll help us help you :)

[liquidjack]

Hey,
Why don't you do a few assignments they have posted up on this forum. Take a step back from the fantasy stuff for a second to get a better grip on your skill sets.

[Evxyza92]

sure i'll do that for a like a cuople weeks and give you guys a huge dump of sketches every cuople of days it should work a out a bit better

[Evxyza92]

sry this is the samurai pic i colored fully from a while back

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/samuraiduelcolered.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/random_2.jpghttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/random_1.jpghttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch_2.jpg

[Envisor]

Nice SB. Youve got an imagination, but your anatomy and figure needs work as well as your form and proportions in your pieces. Try doing anatomy and figure studies, as well as life drawing, also try to use more flowing lines, cleaner, and less feathery. Keep up the good work.

[Evxyza92]

oh yeah liquid jack w/ the canine anatomy i think i have it down i sketched my puppy alot when she was a like a few months old now mature that i think i might have the anatomy down and ps it isnt a dragon dog i dunno what it is :p

p.s. hey envisor what do you mean w/ less feather lines and more flowing ? i am kinda confused and thqanx everyone says dat bout my imagination it all comes out when i draw

[Envisor]

I mean try putting your whole arm into the motion of drawing a line, kinda hard to explain, but cherck out some of KChens worx here, youll understand then, and by less feathery, I mean smooth lines. I cant explain things worth shit, so just check out this link to KChens worx.
http://www.characterdesigns.com/index.php?sitepage=tutorials

Hope it helps.

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/skecth1.jpghttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/DEthroshikai.jpgthis last one i used a model which i am doing alot of nowadays i did the model first then muscle structure and then i did sketches of the fabric blowing in the wind and i finished it c+c welcome

[BludHund]

Hey Evxyza92, you've posted a lot more stuff since the last time I was here.


You should draw more of your dog, general anatomy skills are at least as important, maybe even more important than human anatomy skills. If you get good at it you'll be able to draw creatures better as well as characters.

What Envisor means is to make your lines more smooth, coherent, and unbroken.

Its okay to build up a line from multiple strokes, but you have to make sure that they line up perfectly so that they reinforce the same path, getting darker and darker.

Practice drawing some pages of simple geometric forms like cylinders and work on making them as even and clean as you can.


Also everybody keeps telling you that you have good imagination but that you need to practice the basics more. Well both things are important, a powerful imagination and good skills.

If you want to get better, you need to use some discipline and really put out a lot of stuff. I suggest making it a goal to do an equal amount of practicing skills and drawing from imagination. Or at least equal...realistically you should do MORE practicing skills.

Here's what I recommend: draw at least a full page each day of life studies or practicing basic shapes (don't forget, you can do both at the same time by drawing easy things that don't move around [still life]). You don't have to post all of them, and you don't have to post every day. But still, force yourself to keep it up EVERY DAY. It'll pay off big time.

[Evxyza92]

this is a look into my current process of drawing a piece i wil post up the semi colored version when i can find my dang sketch book . it is step by step from lines and sketches to colid black brush pen marks
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/starter_1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/followup_1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/nocolor_1.jpg
thanx for the advice and my art teacher said the same thing that my lines are to feathery ....(i now officially hate that word) but the thing is that i am afraid that if i go to far into life studies that i will lose my style of drawing... well i think its a style .. maybe but yes i have tried to get the muscle groups right .. on many occasions since i was nine . and believe my first attempts were horrible. But no matter what i wont stop and i wish to become better for it will only benefit me when i am older.

[liquidjack]

Hey amigo,

Your a real young guy. Trust me and trust others who have been swaying you to go in the right direction. With youth comes a bit of irrational arrogance. You just haven't lived long enough to put it all together and you want to "re-invent the wheel".

Take the advice and absorb what is being said to you. Trust me, when you get to college you will be paying some professor serious bucks...just to hear the same thing.

Keep striving

[Evxyza92]

Okay i fina;;y got some studies here and i plan on doing alot more i just dont wanna lose touch with what i enjoy drawing so i got an idea i'll post for every five pages of study i'll post one of my own non study concept ( if you'll allow me to call it that ) drawings okay i do want to get better so here are two pages of study

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/studies_1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/bonestudy.jpg

[Evxyza92]

this is some studies and the ferrari i did from referencei think it cam out okay i tires to make into grey scale oh well

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/ferarri.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch2.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch3.jpg

[Taiylz]

Hey dude, ta for checkin' my SB.

Nice imagination dude, but some of your drawings seem to lack a volume. Like it's as if you're drawing circles instead of spheres if you get me? Hmm haha, not very good at this am i. I'm sure people have already gave ye some awesome advice anyway but I thought i'de try haha. Keep drawing =)

[Nkristian]

hey! thanks for the comment on mysb man..
from your last post I can see that you have proportional problems on figures I think if you draw more from life you slowly fix these problems good luck..

[liquidjack]

The studies are not bad for a start. Right now, you are going through the same mistakes as in your other drawings. It's not a style, just an error. Keep hitting the studies up. Fill up a sketch pad with them and really get into what you are doing. Don't just go through the motions....learn man learn:)

[Evxyza92]

liquidjack i am trying to figure out what i am doing wrong if you dont mind would anyone that posts here please point out exactly what is wrong and how i can fix it i am trying
taiylz yeah everyone says that good imagination
nkristian well how propoortionally? what can i do that would fix that

sorry no sketches today i really wanna know how i can fix these problems

[JL.Alfaro]

Getting better I see, keep doing those structure skeleton drawings until its second nature, it will improve you immensely, BTW thanks for stopping by my sb.

draw draw draw!

-JL

[ped454]

The good thing is that you're starting early. At this point all I can suggest is that you read up on the elements and principles of design as well as do some heavy research on art history...basically just bask in anything and everything you can get your hands on

Also if you're interested in doing quick poses every once in a while here's a website that I use to loosen up and stay in touch

www.posemaniacs.com/blog

later

[Evxyza92]

Jalfaro: No problem man glad to help my fellows
Ped454: Thanx for teh site Definitely checking that out for my next upload.

Updates
I am now using a mannequin to help get more realistic poses, don't worry Though I will use that site.I have done a tiny bit of anatomy , Using teh Mannequin though does, help I know see alot of posing problem from some of my other pictures, they don't look natural.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Inked_1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Kungfu_2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Profile_1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Kungfu_1.jpg

[Evxyza92]

After, today , dropping ony of the biggest pieces of crap I have ever done, I have had it, I am no longer happy with my current skills, and realize, if I am to pursue art as a career, I need to stop( as Liquidjack said)trying to reinvent the wheel.
So here is four pages of study , and I will get you more tomorrow , along with some anatomy ( hopefully)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Practice_3.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Practice_2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/puppy_1.jpg
Any C+C would help , be mean!
Edit:Sorry left this out!
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Practice_1.jpg

[F11]

well, You eyes just look like little triangles and squares with circles inside them,You shoud study real eyes for a while. You noses seem to sunk in when you draw them in profile. Your atonamy is off. And the scales on you last drawing seem to be rushed on, and show it.

some one sugested this website to me and It help me improve, so now I sugest it to everone that needs improving to. (http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=1)

[Evxyza92]

F11:I tried to doing some more eye, work , I still seem to get a trianglular appearance, but I am working on it!I would also like some advice, on recreating one of my earlier thing from the thread, the demon dog, Some advice owuld be nice, and here is some practice.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_4.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_5.jpg

[Krigbrann]

You have a nice sb here but you need to try filling a page up with sketches upon sketches and really get a feel for sketching and line work. I really think you need to work on your values and try making silhouettes or shadows in general. Your anatomy needs a little work but most of all try giving your sketches more quality.

Try working on a single picture for more than an hour or so and make wire guides and try preliminary sketches. Overall its difficult to say whats you should improve upon when you don't have a finished work that shows your strengths.

[F11]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_4.jpg
well the whol head looks formless and the eyes are uneven.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Thelastbook/practice_4.jpg
see how the mouth, eyes and nose should be even with eachother, but dont worry keep trying.

[Evxyza92]

Maxofthesouth: Thanx for the advice, in the new updat ei am trying this thing with drawing the skeleton , and i geuss you can call it a wire, but cicling around it in the shape of muscles, but then again , anatomy studies would heolp , I'll be getting on that soon.
F11: thanks for the hep, And I saw that from the diagram , but to my defense, that is how the picture was , his snout was at an anglem I tried that with the new pic though.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_6.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_7.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_8.jpg

[Evxyza92]

http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/nature/dogs/images/wallpaper/dogs_large.jpg?mii=1
Found the reference picture for that first picture of that dog.

[F11]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_6.jpg

The dogs muzzle is twisting to the left while he/she faces right. the person to the side atonomy is off, you should try drawing basic people before you try foreshorting and perspective.

[Camara]

Keep doing studies.Do more studies from reference and post everything here to reed some good advices.But there are also bad advices or crits without sense like this

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Thelastbook/practice_4.jpg

F11,he is drawing a dog´s face,not a human face.You can´t expect the nose to be alligned like in a human face because it is projected out in a dog´s face.If you are not sure about what you are going to say,don´t say it,because you can cause some confusion.

[Evxyza92]

Huh, never noticed, that , i was thinking maytbe i should've spent more time on it, Don't worry , I will try to get thi sdone, the dog's face is something I have been meaning to practice, Im glad im finally doing my studies.
Edit
Camara, : Thanks but if you see the picture above, his snout os leaning towards one way , I noticed that when I was drawing it.

[Camara]

I´m talking about this picture

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z86/Thelastbook/practice_4.jpg

Not this

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_6.jpg

In this one,F11 is right.Keep an eye on perspectives and proportions!

[F11]

*feels stupid*

[Hazart]

Good job! Just keep practising. Thx for commenting my sb.

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/pratice_8.jpghttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice_10.jpg
Be nice I am still working with dog faces, but at the same time trying to do some anatomy

[Me,Myself & Me again]

Like some of the guys have said just keep practising. I mean i have been drawing since i was four every day. 12 years of practise and i still aint as good as any of the guys here , but i am getting there. Also take time in your drawings its not a race. When you think about drawing a person, draw concstruction lines to help and guide you. Hope this helps and thanx for commenting my sketchbook.

[Evxyza92]

Hey guys, okay I have done some muscle study, and befoer I go further with this , can you guys help , I really want to do a good job with this. I think I have a good start with the muscles.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Swordman_1.jpg

[goma14]

All I can really say is what most have already shared.
Keep drawing, don't ever give up! Don't ever stop making studies from life.
If I found this site sooner and followed the advice that is frequently posted on this forum, I would probably be in much better shape in drawing.

Good luck!
Also, thanks for visiting my SB! ;)

[Evxyza92]

Okay np about your sb, any advice with the new picture'?

[Me,Myself & Me again]

I hope this helps . If you need more help dont hesitate to ask! :)

[Evxyza92]

Oh , actualy that does help. Pictures always help!

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/swordsman_1_v.2.jpg How is this?

[Briantoreilly616]

Hey, nice work. Check out my self portraits, I just did my first Manga face! http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102861 tell me what you think.

[-NINJA MASTER-Sky]

cool stuff. You've got plenty of creativity and that's the most important thing. I love the lizard kicking the cop in the head, and that giant robot thing, those are probably my favorite ones :) as far as critiscsm , I don't really have anything specific to say because if you keep working hard you'll learn your anatomy and stuff perfectly so don't sweat it.

[scottmcd]

Hey there. Thanks for the comment in my sb.

As a few others have suggested, I'd really recommend life-drawing. What I've found is that it's also helped my more stylized work as well. Historically, when I draw a face without blocking it out first it comes out looking expressive, but the proportions are off. Doing the structure first tends to give me more wooden but anatomically accurate faces. With practice, though, I'm starting to get better expressions even with good structure in place.

Also, here are a couple of tricks or exercises to try. 1. Partway through drawing, flip the image to see if it still looks right. If it's on paper, turn the paper over and through it at a bright window. That will help you see things that look wrong. 2. Copy a drawing of a head, but do it upside-down. It forces you to concentrante on the shapes of what you're seeing. Rather than draw an eye with a typical "eye shape," you'll add in the ways that particular eye differs from the standard. Later, this will help you draw eyes from reference when it's right-side-up. Finally, you'll get a sense of how eyes differ from the standard shape and start adding that in for your drawings without reference.

Here are some links you might find interesting:

Heads - http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm

Comics/Cartooning Principles - http://sevencamels.blogspot.com/2006/09/comic-strip-artists-kit-redux.html

Composition - http://www.animationarchive.org/2006/11/education-fundamentals-of-composition.html

Hope these help, and keep drawing!

[Lake]

to be honest, your latest picture needs a lot of work.

The lines are REALLY chaotic - I can't even tell what's going on, and it's just a figure! clean it up a little so that you and I can both see the actual image.

Second, more muscles shown does not mean better muscles shown. Most of the time, you shouldn't be showing more than half of the stuff you've drawn in here. Think about where the BONES go and which muscles will influence your silhouette. this will give you a more visual interpretation of his body's inner workings.

His left leg is way smaller than his right.
His torso is like a straight up cylinder; no ribcage to speak of.
His hands are like bricks - don't be afraid to use reference.
His face is circular - go for more of a rectangular egg shape.
In general, he seems really short and stocky. Unless you're drawing a dwarf, his limbs are kinda not so much.

[ProceedWithCaution]

Howdy!

Keep going with the individual sketches; noses, eyes, mouths. Not a bad start, and I agree with your imagination-you keep this up and continue with the vein you're going, who knows where you'll be by the end of this school year. My personal advice?

Take your sketchbook everywhere. Pencils and a sharpener. I do quick sketches of Everything. I started off back when I was six doing horses. By nine-with the single-mindedness of a two year old with a sucker they can't have-I had them down perfectly.

I do every part individually, and continually. I'm still doing hands, mouths, noses and eyes-as well as quick ten minute sketches of anything that catches my eye. For my reference on muscle tone and placement, I usually keep a few magazines around. There are quite a few that can provide decent pose ideas and mid-motion shots that help...as well as various medical texts for the placement of muscle and bone structure. If you know WHERE they are, you can draw them. My office looks closer to a medical examiner's than an artist's-until I start on a project. Don't be afraid to use the "How to" drawing books, either. There are a few that provide great advice and can actually help. You just need to find one that focuses on realistic renditions of bodies and faces. If you can get them to look realistic on paper, you can do almost anything with them!

You've gotten a good base-I would suggest taking classes provided in school if possible. There are a lot of great techniques you can learn and tips that your teacher can give you that makes much more sense in a person to person format than over any forum! I took everything my school had, and my teacher back then had to come up with four extra courses by the time I hit my junior year because there wasn't anything left.

Keep going-I'll be returning for more!
~J

[Evxyza92]

scottmcd: I am doing some life drawing , and the other half drawing from reference.

Panda: I cleaned it up , and it just seem that the top is okay now, and the Head is an egg shape. Just right now the legs are killing me I can't seem to get them right.

Proceedwithcaution: Does noone ever read previous posts, I said I am taking art classes from my highschool. Jk , I am taking a cartooning class next year though. right now though I am trying to work on dog anatomy.

I cleaned it up, hoe it helps.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/swordman_1v.3.jpg

[ProceedWithCaution]

Proceedwithcaution: Does noone ever read previous posts, I said I am taking art classes from my highschool. Jk , I am taking a cartooning class next year though. right now though I am trying to work on dog anatomy.

lol- :P Yes, I did, I just wanted to re-enforce it!!! That's a good idea...and I hate dog anatomy almost as much as I hate human feet. The only Formal class I took was an oil-painting class in the Dav. Museum of Art. Make sure you post more-looking forward to them.

I do see something-Take a look at where the legs meet the body... With the stance you have him in-The legs need to be a bit further apart to give space for the groin area. The way the stance is as well-try it out. Standing that way would not work. Perhaps straighten one, and keep the other shifted to the side for a bit more of a dramatic, and realistic, posturing..

[Lake]

um - flip that egg shape. should be wider at the top than the bottom.

[Me,Myself & Me again]

Hey it looks better than it did before well done. As some people have said before use references they help a hell of a lot. :)

Hope these help aswell. study them and get to know the body well .
http://www.t-hesselberg.dk/primal/primal_19.jpg


http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.t-hesselberg.dk/primal/primal_19.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.t-hesselberg.dk/anatomi.asp&h=2321&w=1489&sz=872&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=Bd6Jyw-t-Ip4MM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmuscular%2Bsystem%26imgsz%3Dxxlarge%2 6ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3D N

[Evxyza92]

I see that now, and the amount of erasing that is happening, is drving me crazy , okay , but , yeah I see what you mean the legs are too close together, they needs to be a groin. Heh

[Evxyza92]

Okay , I fixed up the groin problem , any thing else before I head on to clothing?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/swordsman_1_v4.jpg

[Lake]

he's leaning way over to the left - stretch out his right leg more to support his weight.

[Evxyza92]

Alright I'll try that.

[Evxyza92]

I hope this is good.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/e071f441.jpg

[Me,Myself & Me again]

Its noticibly better. Well Done good stance as well!

:)

[Evxyza92]

I might change on ething That I just noticed, I'll clean it up , once I Get goods from panda, he is really helping me out with this Thanks man!

Anyway , what he might say is what I noticed. The knee should face inward a bit more, I am going to fix that and clean everything up ,and do the clothes.

[Beonarri]

I concur with the rest of the crowd. More life drawing is a must. It will teach you about balance, proportion, and how the figure moves as a whole.

The other big thing is to start studying anatomy. Get some anatomy books and start drawing from them.

I've been repeating advice to many new artists, most of which make the same mistakes, so here is a link to some advice I gave someone else.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1370727&postcount=29

The original thread is here:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=93098

You have an ok start going, you just need to start practicing.

[Lake]

right leg. RIGHT leg. not the leg on the right. I really admire your perseverance with this.

[Lake]

here. check this out.

http://www.niten.com.ar/DSC02173.JPG

look at that kid on the right. perfect balance. legs evenly spaced. Hands relaxed, but still ready.

[ped454]

Its hard to change a drawing to that extent like that. I suggest you get some tracing paper man and trace whole figure lightly as an underdrawing. One thing I've learned is that drawing figures is constructive and it takes steps from simplicity to detail. Like everyone here has suggested life drawing is practically a must. It truly helps you change your thought from 2 dimensions to 3D.

Basically imagine every drawing you draw from 3 dimentions...any angle you need you can see..Once you can get that down drawing will be easy...It's shit hard to do that though.

Good luck bro. Only way is forward

[Evxyza92]

Okay , then a little confusion, sorry about , anyway, I got a little ahead of myself, and did a bit of the shading, it probably looks at best decent, and did a little detail with teh sword. I'll fix that leg in five ten min

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/aaa51e61.jpg

[Evxyza92]

Okay being stupid and never doing this in the first place, and drawing a straight line, I get what panda says, and I hope this fixed it.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/4d5ecc59.jpg

[Lake]

MUCH better. um - compositionally, it's going off the left of the page - easy fix, can you show us more page on the left side?

[Evxyza92]

Uhhh...sure, It's just that my scanner, detects imagesn abd scans that area, that way you guys don't see the rings and other pages.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/61b3abf9.jpg

[Abee]

the body is usually made of 7 "heights," the head is 1 height, so you could say that the whole human body is made out of the length of 7 heads. The first 4 is from the top of the head down to the groin, the remaining 3 is the legs. Going to try and fix you up with a pic' of what I mean. It's very basic and there are exceptions however, this is how most people count.

[Lake]

aright - check it out. I've done a little draw-over (it's not technically paint) to show some points here. First, and most obvious thing I've done, is to cross his right arm over his body and turn his torso. This pose obviously has a lot of action in in, and a Contrapposto stance (look it up on wikipedia) shows this very well.

Second thing is the head and neck. In your drawing the entire body is facing us, really, and it becomes more interesting if his head follows the direction that he's looking.

Third, note how wide the legs are. He's pulling out a SWORD, and METAL IS HEAVY. All of his weight is centered between his feet.

Last, I drew over what should be that egg shape for his head. Yours is kinda like a potato.

Keep going! It really is getting better and better!

[Abee]

This is what I meant with the whole "7 heights thing"
185372

[Lake]

This is what I meant with the whole "7 heights thing"
185372

well - standard human height is between 6 and 8 heads, depending on how you want them to measure up. 7 is known as "the average joe" whereas 8 is the "hero." It all depends on what you're trying to draw.

This picture has landmarks labeled for an 8 heads figure. Not saying you should use it specifically, I'm just saying it's useful to have several perspectives.

http://realcolorwheel.com/trans.htg/96.gif

[Abee]

mm, exactly as you say panda, I drew an average joe, then the proportions vary, we had an arts-teacher that was more like 5-6 heads, she looked normal at first! but once we noticed, (she was posing for some reason) the plump look of her never stoped to amuse me!

No person is the same, that's just to show you a bit of average prop's pyz out!

[Evxyza92]

Anything else before I get started on the legs?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/f7e11131.jpg

[Lake]

you've come leaps and bounds. i'd turn his torso to his left a little more for more action, but it's up to you (just personal preference I think)

knock us out!

[Evxyza92]

Nah, I would rather, not mainly for at tis' moment, in his movement, or line of action( I learned something, I picked up some books on anatomy today), I think is interesting. Thanks I really , think your advice helped me alot with this piece.:)

[Lake]

just look at the oldest version and the latest version. AMAZING difference. drawn by two completely different people.

[Evxyza92]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/c559a23c.jpg

[Evxyza92]

Any tips guys, and so you know I picked up some books, I basic figure book , a Hogarthm figure book , and hogarth face and portrait book.

[CouchPotato]

Thanks for visiting my sketch book man. And good God, panda is being the nicest here in this thread that I've ever seen lol (j/k, don't shoot me panda!)

I think with panda's help your samurai drawing have became a lot better. Like he said, drawn by two different people. I also think that it's a good thing you're drawing so much, but it means very little if you keep drawing and making the same mistakes.

I think first you should find out about perspective and work on that. It's good that you got the Hogarth books, but you'll find it extremely tough because Hogarth is really dynamic. His stuff uses a lot of foreshortening, and that is really difficult to grasp without at least some sense of perspective. Well, I think so anyway. Your samurai drawing would have been a lot better if you could draw him into deep space on paper. Without meaning to show-off or something, I've done an example of what I mean. And that's pretty simple compared to what Hogarth and many of the guys here in CA will do lol (and I probably made all sorts of stupid errors myself along the way lol, I'm learning too).

If you really wish to learn, regardless of which area of art you wish to go to, you can't really run away from the traditional stuff. And there are many boring and tedious steps along the way. Perspective, proportions, anatomy, etc. etc. Start from the beginning, I would say. Don't shade or render until you get your shape down to the pat. Don't bother with details until you get your look right. Don't stop drawing the things that gives you fun, but you must relegate them to a far smaller area then you have shown so far. And above all, don't stop drawing and practicing.

Hope that helps!

[Evxyza92]

Couchpotato: Well, at least people can stop with the buy this book , that really gets annoying man I am only 15 years old I am not made of money.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/a72f85a2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/6b363b2f.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/8c5de6fd.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/0019cff4.jpg

[PMaz]

Your doing good progress. I don't know what else to say... Have you try drawing from life? or Understanding what's inside the skin... It really helped me a hell lot to know how the body work than just see how it was reacting to muscular movements. Best quote ever: Form Follow Function. Good luck and keep working!

[F11]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/c559a23c.jpg

the shading seems way to heavy.

[CouchPotato]

Couchpotato: Well, at least people can stop with the buy this book , that really gets annoying man I am only 15 years old I am not made of money.


I have to say, try not to diss what they are saying to you. It's well intentioned. And furthermore, telling you to "get" a book doesn't mean telling you to buy one. Do try to use some lateral thinking. You can try and find the books recommended for you in the library. Xerox the pages you need for whatever exercises you feel like practicing in that particular week. Then when you are done with those exercises, go back to the library and find the book again if you can. Rinse and repeat. If you cannot find what you need in the library, well, this is where ConceptArt comes in. Make a post, politely request what you need, and I'm sure someone out there will help you out.

In fact, I'm going to tell you to "get" another book. Perspective made Easy by Ernst Norling. lol. Keep at it dude, don't give up.

[MacTire]

You're making good progress so far!
You have the idea of where to place your shading it's just that it can be a bit heavy in patches.

[Evxyza92]

Damn i need to check up on this more. Okay couchpotatoe you got me . I am kind of a straightforward thinker when it comes to other peoples ideas. Okay I did some more practice only two pic's of practice. I got carried away with teh first picture so be brutal and tell me how it came out. I have to do some more studies and cover drawing from real life in the next year I hope to exponentially increase my skill.
couchpotatoe Dang the book reccomendations, I'll check it out from the library.
Pmaz:Omg a good progress commetn my first
F11: I see what you mean , but my skill on deep space which is a hogarth thing is very bad from what I see from the book I got, so I'll get to that in the coming year.
Mactire: Oh so I have an idea, tat's nice too here , and teh second good progress comment, so happy!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/401bbf41.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/da6956e8.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/563e02e6.jpg

[Autumnal Dream]

Hey dude :D,
nice sketchbook you've got. Maybe try to draw a bit cleaner.. i mean more precise lines. But man, you're on the right track!
Keep going and try out everything!
Btw... may I ask how old are you? :p

[Evxyza92]

Just some sketches a new portrait of my brother , he kept bugging me to do one ps , it look snothing like him.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/cc512087.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/5106d800.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/1d9b0e8a.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/707f05e4.jpg

[Anthis]

I can see some progress going and you seem very willing indeed.
My advice would be to start out with some soft lines and sketches. When you get the shapes you want, use harder lines and work your way in. You can erase the soft lines easily. Start soft and easy, and solidify your lines when they're right.
Your drawings tend to get scribbly and messy, experiment a little with your pencil and try to get softer and more smooth effect. Makes erasing later on easier too.
Good luck!

__________________
Anthis' Sketchbook;
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105027

[Radio24]

Nice progress here. Try not to take anything people say to you as an insult or in harsh context. Most of the time, it's hard to help and not sound a bit insulting. After all, there are no voice inflections while typing. haha. Never get intimidated or discouraged. As far as art books, talk to your teacher, they might have the budget to invest in some helpful books, or may have some on hand (as they should if they're good art teachers). Keep yourself inspired, but don't let assignments bore you. Take everything you do seriously, concentrate, and do your best whether you're painting pears or a pair of nasty 9mm. If you plan on improving, getting bored with the basics will do you no good, it'll just be a waste of time. keep it up.

[DARAF]

Your doing good man, Draw , Draw , Draw, all of the time. That's the trick. Draw from life, comic books, paintings, magazines , movies , and last but not least your imagination.

[Fishspawn]

You've made a ton of progress already - really enjoyed looking through your book. You've gotten a lot of good advice - drawing from a balance of life, reference and your imagination is a great way to improve. What i like to do is combine several things at one time to further get the idea - study another artist's drawing of a cat, draw my own cat from life, and then draw a cat from my imagination to try and remember everything and then check where i messed up. Also i think you should be measuring a lot more. I see you're already working on proportions but don't forget that you can measure angles too - take your pencil and line it up with something in what you're looking at and then put it on your drawing to see where it lines up. Measure everything! Keep up the hard work, its paying off a lot already!

[Sketch]

Good to see you pushing forward! I agree with what DARAF said... just draw from everything. Don't just use comics or real life for reference. Look at everything and be inspired by whatever it is that you're looking at. Find something outside of art that inspires you and bring pieces of that subject into your work. If you're stoked while you draw it'll show! You're super young and you'll get a lot better if you stick with it.

[StarbonesCoffin]

Yeah, agreed with drawing cleaner, draw anatomy but clean ones.

[Lake]

sketching close friends and family members is HARD. REALLY HARD. Most professional artists still have a lot of trouble with it.
The thing is, you see and notice EVERYTHING about them, because you know what they look like by heart. So if you mess up, even just a little, you already know it's not them.

[ali_yaseen]

Thank you Yes, I wrote the latest mistake, I am sorry and I would like to thank you very site

[Evxyza92]

Anthis: Again progress comment , and I am doing some stuff from real life now.
Radio School starts in a week I am going to be talking to my art teacher about alot of stuff , and maybe reccomendations from her.
Daraf: Wow a good job comment without a crit I am so happy thanx man!
Sketch Outside art , is the stuff I find on this site , people here , man they got mad skill , and I wish to be that good , heck even better one day!
Starbones Man , everyone says cleans lines, but I tend to find it easier to do rough sketches, and not clean up , and see what I did wrong.
Panda My brother wants me to draw him , whenever I sketch and hes near me.
Ali yaseen ; No problem man.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practicealot2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practicealot.jpg

[Grandmassa Mr. Spect]

your anatomy is really inproving ,really like the charactor ideas 8)

[LexMedden]

8D really cool drawings!!

[Lake]

I wasn't complaining! portraits are great practice no matter who they're of. I was just commenting on the fact that you said it looks nothing like him.

[Evxyza92]

Grandmassa: Thank you
Lex: Thank you
Panda: I honestly think the portrait looks more like me I dunno why.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practicealotuno.jpg
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[saminfused]

Hey man. Thanks for stopping by my SB. The only advice I can give you is;

Take your time with your drawings, make sure you're putting lines where you actually want them. Draw with your arm, not with your wrist. And draw from life. Life drawing can be boring and very unrewarding to start with but you must stick with it. To draw from your mind, you should be able to draw from what's in front of you. Especially people. Anatomy is one big hill to climb, but you have to start it some time. Good work so far, you've improved heaps.

[Jushra]

this (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practicealotuno4.jpg) image has a lot of movement to it and stands out against the rest of your work (which is good, its great progress). motion and anatomy studies are important for you at this point, keep going with those kinds of things along with your imaginative drawings. you'll see.

[Evxyza92]

Saminfused I get it , finally I get it , iI draw with my wrist , and honestly I am going to draw with my arm , its just that right now it feels more comfartable with my wrist , than my arm. And ps most of the anatomy stuff is from taking a loot at a couple pics of antomy, and taking my time with my picstures, making sure its as anatomically correct as I can get it.
JushraThanx , yeah I notcied that , I wanted to do more with it , but it just got scratched and became a study. yeah I notice it now , all of my previous mistakes.

Okay , everyone, leave the color one alone ,I put it here as a comparison from what I used to do , to noe , with one of my reecently somehwta done pictures. I get it, I need to do some clothing and drapery studies, to do capes a, but it was a first try Rip it apart, I want to get , actually fuck that I need to get better..
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_Dethrosacrifice.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Dethrosacrifice.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_stuff2.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/stuff2.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_piecoshit.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/piecoshit.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_stuff.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/stuff.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_stuff3.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/stuff3.jpg)
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[Saturns Gate]

This is a good starting point for your age. Well done, the only thing which will make you leap up a good step would obviously be the anatomy studies, we all have to do them if we want to get somewhere, even though it can be boring now and then, be persistant and you will get there. Good luck!! :)

[chobomaster]

Hey what's up, thanks for stopping by my sb. Nice progress in your stuff. I'd recommend you to try the 50 hands thing too, your head might hurt after a while but like all good exercise no pain no gain right?

[BadGeometry]

Yo, thanks for commenting on my sketchbook.

It looks like you've gotten a lot better since the first page on here. Be careful not too get to heavy on your values. One thing that might help you out in that department is pencils of varying hardnesses. If you can, get yourself a small set of pencils (from 2H to 2B) and play around with them to get a feel for how each pencil lays down value. Give that shot and see how you like it!

Keep on drawing man. That's the only way to get better. :)

[Evxyza92]

Saturns Gate: Well, I am still getting into anatomy , and delving into my book , and learning more after every turn of the page.
Chobomaster: Thanks man
Badgeometry: I have something , like that its has a wider range, , its from like 2g to 8b.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_Sketch1.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Sketch1.jpg)
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_sketch4.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch4.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_sketch5.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch5.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_Firelord.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/Firelord.jpg)
Rip apart the firelord pic.

[AmontilladoAg]

Hey Ev :)

It's really cool to see how far you've come since you started this SB; nicely done, sir. :teeth:

You asked for crits on the firelord pic, so I took the liberty of doin' a paintover or two to illustrate some things...
Pic 1 -- I think his torso kind of got away from ya there; that area under his ribcage and above his pelvis is awfully skinny. Plus, it seems to be slipping to his left side... Also, his arms are a bit long, too; possibly a side-effect of the long torso..? Oh, and his feet could be a little bigger :bashful:
Pic 2 -- Watch out for making noses too long; that, then, causes ears to be too long (if you're making the ear about the size of the distance btwn eye and base of nose). I like his intense gaze :) but I'd prolly make his eyes a little smaller..

Anyway, hope this is helpful to you :) Keep goin' strong!

[The7Artist7]

thanks for checkin out my new sketchbook! - thought I'd return the favour :) nice progression of skills - keep up the good work and draw, draw, draw!

stickmen are great for trying out poses easily - grab a sheet of rough paper and fill it with a whole range of little stick men doing all sorts of crazy stuff - if you like a pose, try doing some quick sketches on another rough piece... also as you draw remember to keep an eye on proportions and do your best to visualize how your pic will look as you go.

Hope this helps - it's 3am and I should get some sleep! :P

look forward to seeing some more of your art :)

[Discoskull]

Hey dude! Thanks for checking out my SB a while back.

You show good progression throughout this SB, which is a great thing - I'd say use more "solid/confident" line work/shading, but that's just me; better to get the forms down first.

About the Firelord pic;
The only thing I'd add to what's already been said is watch out for that huge spot black that makes up his shadow; having pure spot black in one area really weighs the image down and draws the eye away from the other stuff you've got going on.
I'd say either lighten the shadow or add in more spot blacks/ harsh shadows to the rest of the image to balance it out - perhaps it's taking place it night! With all the fire, that'd make for some entertaining shadows.
Of course, just lightening the shadow as is would be much easier; your call.

Oh, and the fire doesn't come off as fire to me; perhaps lighten the line work that makes up the fire, or draw it differently all together. I usually end up stylizing my flames a bit, but some may say that's the cheap way out ;)
Perhaps make it more "liquid" - look up tons of reference.


Keep pumping stuff out; I'll be waiting for more :)

[Evxyza92]

AmontilladoAg: Thanks I zsee what you mean , I get the purpose of antomy studies and all of that , and I am loving the wiki Ca has its defintely helping., I'll get back to you on that. Thanks I see what you mean , with teh nose, I am slipping a bit right now with the faces, gotta work on that Thanks!
The7artist7 I did a little bit of the figure guys, and as always I get carried away with a few of them.
Discoskull: I see what you mean , I need to work on shadows but first antomy , like some of the stuff that Amontilado said. The fire I try to make look robust , but its just looks like sketches, and at least well you get what I tried to make, but damnit fire is a tuogh thing to get , that at the moment is not priority for me. The shadow does drag down the eyes from the background, and the rest of the picture.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch6.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch7.jpg

[Buckster]

I can see some nice development here. It seems as if you are really taking in alot of the critique that people are giving you, keep at it, it is really important. Keep it up and draw every day if you can.

Cheers

[Smarty]

hey man! i read your topic in the lounge and it sent me here

you are me from 3 years ago! great to see similar infusiasm and frustration with education etc.. I've come to learn that abit of everything helps and experimentation goes a long way.

Your figures are a little stiff at the moment, try not to pressure yourself into crating a cool character just scribble some gestures. To ease the pressure, gets some inks man. After a while you stop caring and just free up and learn to go for it abit...

feel free to check some of my rly old topics out lol! i tihnk i joined when i was 15 on here.

[Lee W]

The progress looks good but there isn't anything I can say that hasn't been said already. But take a look at " Figure Drawing for All Its Worth" by Loomis which is a PDF that can be downloaded from http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/01/figure-drawing-for-all-its-worth.html

[Liik]

I can see your progress from the first drawing to the last. I think some more life study will help a lot. I find any tasteful nude I can find on the net (DA has a lot of photos you can use, but be sure to credit the creators) and of course, free porn site can have a gem or two.

Just draw what you see. Use your pencil to measure parts against other parts and correct and change things as you go along. That will help you with form. At least that's what I do.

[Evxyza92]

Buckster I do , these guys here are gonna help me become a better and best artist I can be.
Liik I don;t understand measure with a pencil, well I egussI could interpret it!
Oldnoobie That sit froze on me , but thanks I be sure to check that out.
Smartkyle Do not remind of that topic, hope its locked. Thanks for the comment.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_sketch8.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch8.jpg)
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[Camara]

You are pushing hard,thats very good!When you draw from reference and think you have finished the pic you were working on,take a break,go and drink some water,eat a sandwich and then come back and compare your pic with the reference.Try to see if they are ase similar as you thought they were!!The point of drawing from reference is to improve your skills to apply that knowledge later in your "from imagination" work,so put more effort in that refferences.Try to make them as similar as you can!!!

[realitychek]

Dude, thanks for posting in my SB


I can really see a lot of progression and improvemnet throughout your entire SB, cool ideas, and it's great your working so hard on this stuff. Keep it up!

[Lee W]

there is a link in the Concept Art Wiki too (there was one the last time I checked anyhow) if the site I gave you doesn't work correctly.

I would like to stress the importance of reference studies too :) and as Camara mentioned, the skills gained from these will help with the imaginative stuff.

[Darren_1989]

Thanks for checking out my sketchbook.

It looks like you've made some good improvement since you started this thing, so keep at it. I wish I had started taking art seriously at your age rather than at the very end of high school. My big tip would be to maybe spend a bit more time on your studies of references, and really try to absorb what you are drawing. Again, keep up the hard work :)

[Reject-D]

really great ideas but they need some more proportions and depth to them.. but overall there not bad keep it up!!

[Evxyza92]

Omg, I can't scan shit right now my scanner isn't working and I got a bunch of new stuff, and I don't got no camera, so reallyt any crit's on my old stuff , even if its really old would much apreciated.

[Evxyza92]

darren Thanx I am glad I am doing this seriously now as well
Reject Thanks on that , I need to still learn about proportions.
Oldnoobie I love the wiki it has many great references
Realitychek I( want to check back on some of teh ideas and try to redo them even better
Camara I am trying to get some ref pics I don't know where besides the wiki
And yes I got to my scanner to work for even a small bit
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_sketch14.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch14.jpg)
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_untitled-1.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/untitled-1.jpg)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/th_practice17.jpg (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/practice17.jpg)
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[Flipnastywebby]

all i have to say is break down and buy the george bridgman's the human machine, and all of his various books and copy them, all of the them. then you will be good to go on anatomy. once you have that down you can continue this suedo anime thing you have going.

just work on structure and form.


slainte!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for commenting on my SB man!
I don't have anything to say that I'm sure you haven't heard a thousand times by now, but I'll ramble off a few things that helped me. Life drawings, Bridgeman, Hogarth, Loomis etc... Studies can't hurt. When shading, always have your strokes follow the form of the object. It's amazing how much of a difference it makes. Also, it might help to do a few pages of just marks on your page with no real form. Do fast ones and slow ones, vary pressure, angle 'em, overlap 'em, draw circles, whatever. Really get to know your tools.
And one quick request. Any chance you could start uploading on the CA file manager? I love multiple-simultaneous uploads too, but the thumb-nails just get a bit tedious.

Hope some of this helps. Keep at it!

[CouchPotato]

Hey man, it's been awhile. Thanks for popping by my corner again. I can see that you are still forging on, which is great! I think once in awhile you should take out ALL the stuff that you did. From really early to right this minute. The you set them all out in a row or something and take a good look at how you've improved man. It'll really help you gauge your rate of improvement, and what else you are lacking, so you can get a clear picture in your mind on how you can improve even further.

Also, the Loomis books, I've got them. If you want we can try and see if we can send the pdfs to you via yousendit.com or something similar, since you say you got problems with the basangwhatchamacallit site. Just drop me a PM if you want the pdfs.

[BludHund]

Hey Ev, sorry I haven't dropped by in a such a long time. You are really on the right track now, much improved volume, too. Looks like you've found some patient and dedicated mentors here. Definitely keep at it. The only real recommendation I have is: use the upload manager, break up your images. It's only considerate of your good and faithful fiends here :D PLus, I think you'll actually find it quite convenient once you start, there are not too many art forums that will host your stuff for you, after all!

[EchoArt7]

Good stuff man.
Hey its nice to see someone around my age (11th grade) around here.
Anyways keep drawing and practicing your on your way :confident.

[The7Artist7]

Hey Buddy - any new stuff? :)

Hope you're well - all the best

[scottmcd]

One thing I think you're doing very well on is a sense of motion in your recent figures. Even the guy sitting drawing at the desk looks like the way a person sits. They're not stiff, is what I'm saying.

Good job.

And, because one can only do so many anatomy studies, I also suggest hatching and cross-hatching practice. I do it in boring meetings because it's kind of mindless. It's just practicing getting straight, smooth lines that are an even thickness and an even distance apart. For example, I did this one with a brush - but you could use pencil, pen, or whatever you've got handy: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=261954&stc=1&d=1197999329

[Evxyza92]

Thanks for all the cc. Anyway , I will try to do a massive dump of all my sketches. I dropped my cartooning class last year , and took a while off from drawing. I come back now, happier , and doing not for a future career , but just as an enjoyable hobby. Thanks for all of your help.

[Evxyza92]

Well it been a while, so I'll just say this, rip 'em apart, and tell me the usual of what I need to do. ALot more images coming up , there are other images from this s/b. I mean it's almost completely filled up , so that'll take a while to upload, and that should be fun.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch6-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch5-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch4-1.jpg
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[the_original_sean]

shit dude look at the improvement between your very first post and your latest. i don't know what kind of timeframe that was in but it's inspiring. do you carry a little sketchbook around all the time? that's what's workin for me.

[Evxyza92]

@the original sean don't kid yourself, this has a been a two year progress, but i do settle down certain days, and draw my ass off. if the result is a tiny bit of improvement. I hope there is some, especially considering I do these two three month hiatus' twice a year when i draw too much in one period of time.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch9-1.jpg
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[Scotteh]

Dude your sketchbook is fantastic, I decided to just flick through it from start to finish and its amazing how much you've improved since being on CA. It warms my heart to know that somebody your age has had the drive and forsight to persue what you want to do and keep on trying, seeking critique and learning, and to have been smart enough to do it in the best place for artists on the web!

You'll go far dude. Keep on drawing!

[Evxyza92]

@ScottehThanks, it has been a while since my start on ca, though I do believe how far I have come is only a portion of how good I can be.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch29.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/FinalSketch.jpg

[the_original_sean]

you are drawing your ass off. that's the best thing you can do. congratulations, keep it up. i see a couple life studies, like the hand, those are key. if i find i'm getting bored with drawing from life i'll add shit to keep me entertained. like i think one of my drawings i posted has the kool aid man bursting thru the wall behind the model.

[gmc9987]

Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook.

Some nice improvement here over the last two years! I really like that bird.

You seem a lot more comfortable drawing male anatomy than female, I would suggest that you try drawing more women. Photos, life, your head, whatever. I wish someone would give me this advice :-(

[Evxyza92]

@The original sean Yah , my anatomy studies, are basically looking anatomy in many diferent poses, and then incorporating it in my sketches.
@gmc9987 Thanks that bird is a really old idea, I am trying though with my female anatomy more

Anyway, here are some new pictures, and stuff.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch34.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch33.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch32.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch31.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch30.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch39.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch38.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch37.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch36.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/evxyza92/sketch35.jpg

[damdischink]

I know this have been said a million time, but i still think it is necessary to repeat. Draw from real life, book, pictures, porn, whatever... study them.
Loomis book is the shit, read and study from it! Peace out

[Evxyza92]

@damdishcinkI do try to draw from real life, but, I don't like to be that stalkery guy just doin' nothin. Anyway, I do draw from photos when I find one that I can handle or inerests me enough.
Anyway , enough of that here it is rip it apart, and yeah I am glad I;ve been updating alot lately give me something to do.
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[Uli]

I like the girl doing bubbles on the 24. a lot. Good proportions and very nice er- word? scribbling? hatching.

So here's some ideas (you asked for it, you get it ;-))

Your linework looks a bit tortured, as if you have a lot of energy but its all stuck in tiny lines and scribbles.
When I started I did some arm movement exercises. meaning, I took a large sheet of paper and a pen and did circles and 8 and all kinds of flowing movements in defferent sizes. I also did long straight lines etc. I didn't just use the hand (or part of the hand) but the whole arm or at least the lower arm. It sounds silly, I know, but keep doing that. You will learn quite a bit about pencil movement, pressure, flow and other stuff. Its like when you do sport and first warm up by streching and gymnastics. drawing is a *physical* skill.

more about linework: there is this book by Betty Edwards that everyone uses (you probably know it.). In your case it might be really helpful, because the emphasis is on the linework and flow again.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231014910&sr=1-1

Take what you like, forget about the rest.

[Evxyza92]

@Uli thanks for the advice about the linework, always something that I have tried to work on. I tried that exercise, i am gonna do it now before I draw, to see if my lines start to clear up. Thanks!
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[BludHund]

Hey man, thanks for the help with the portraits on my SB.

I didn't forget about stopping by I've just been lazy/busy :D

Although I see now I have nothing really to add. You've been really busy...awesome!

The two main tings you need to work on are proportions and line quality.

I can at least maybe give you a couple tips on (training) line quality:

use a pen, a fine-tipped pen. A fat line tends to be more forgiving and hides your mistakes...with a thin line you've got no where to hide.

try to work on nailing the outlines and contours of your subject. Especially pay attention to small, subtle overlaps that can really make or break whether people can 'read' the form (Loomis has some good points like this on pages 50 and 51 of "figure Drawing...).

IF your drawing isn't coming together at that point...resist the temptation to add some shading just to make it seem more 3D...what you really need to do is figure out why the contours aren't effectively describing the shape.

try to focus on getting each line right the first time. This is something that I really have a problem with. Two things help with this:

1. have a good idea of the shape of the thing FIRST, before you start drawing lines...even great artists scribble to 'feel out' a shape, but if you want to cut down on scribbling, have the shape in your head first. You can even use a red or a blue pencil to draw up the shape first, then go over it with a pen.

2. At least at first, stick to straight lines, rather than curves. Even then its hard to get the angle right, but curves usually even harder to get right the first time. What I mean by this, is, break down complex curved lines into a series of strait angled lines, like a polygon. This can also help you to break down 3D shapes and think of them as planes..which is a pretty big deal :D

One last word about proportion studies, and, I had to have someone kick my ass about this too; really take your time on them, use a ruler make sure everything is RIGHT. The reason being, and it took me quite a while to learn this: incorrect practice just reinforces bad habits...that's a motto! :D

oh yeah, PS anatomy studies are looking promising...just need better lines and better proportions...

[Evxyza92]

@Buldhund thanks for the advice, i need alot of help with my line quilty , so far, it seems to me that the quailty of my lines is very bad. And holds back what I draw.
Anyway a two sketches, today, had some trouble on the 2nd page.
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[ImaginaryMonkey]

wow!! i went through your sb and you've improved so so much from your first post! you really have inspired me to try harder!!

[Beonarri]

I'd also consider this book: http://tinyurl.com/DyanmicWrinklesDraperyHogarth
Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery by Burne Hogarth. (Link goes to Amazon)

It's helped me understand how clothing fits, he explains the science behind wrinkles and how to draw it using a very simple and easy to understand process.