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davi
June 7th, 2003, 01:00 AM
I'm slowly trying to learn 3 things
Envoriment
Perspective
Color

I'm working on all three very slowly and carefully. I don't feel that rushing into something is ever the best way to learn... i was wondering what you think about this so far? Hopefully the sky doesn't take away too much from the piece... was kind of hoping i could get away with leaving it yellow and say it's "artsy".

Please... rip it apart, i honestly don't know what i am doing.

http://www.creatureone.com/steam/sen02-1.jpg

Forge
June 7th, 2003, 04:55 AM
hello Davi,
Pay attention your vertical lines are not so vertical... try to reverse your drawing and u will see it immediatly...
for your perspective the best way to learn before having the "point of flight" (try to traduce I don't think It's the right english name) is to draw this point (on the horizon) and make all lines pass by this point... not today but I'll try to scan and show u my old perspective exercices If it can help you...:chug:

tyboogie
June 7th, 2003, 03:06 PM
the structure looks pretty good perspective wise--except teh sidewalk should probably get smaller towards the back

i dont really liek the design of the piece ( composition) i think you should work on that more--you do a lot of floating figures so im glad yout ttrying environments think anbout teh overall design of a piece ( thumbnail sketches are a good way to plan) and think about how the eye will move arounsd it

sorry but the yellow sky is no good

the men on top dont look like they exist in space/perspective


your use of color is good, but i thuink you should start thinking about design mainly composition, and having all elements in a pic working together

hyphen
June 8th, 2003, 12:08 AM
I assume that this piece is in 2 point perspective. In the foreground the block on the right says that it's in one point perspective while the rest of the wall says it's in 2. Make sure to plot out your vanishing points.

When I was learning perspective, I found that the best and easiest way to see things in perspective was to put individual elements into a box.

You should also place a horizon line, the sidewalk seems like it is climbing upward. And also, the the large chunk of wall that is directly top-left of the cracks doesn't seem like it is in perspective. It seems flat.

R_M
June 8th, 2003, 03:22 AM
Hi Davi,
nice thread, the discussions and points made here are all interesting and I am sure there is a lot to learn.

I can't help you much with the colours you chose, cause I just don't know colout theory (I'll get a book real soon!) but the yellow sky is very unsetteling. I think yellow has a lot of tension and negativity connected to it, the same way green is considred a calming and relaxing colour. if you want to increase the viewers tension yellow is good, otherwise there is a bit to much of it.

You guide the viewers eye from bottom left to top right, that also puts the viewer in an unconfortable position. Boom explained it a lot better in his post on Fosters latest thread (the one with all the soldiers running around) I think it would work better if you flipped the image horizontally.

I like the way you use colour to get grey tones to focus on the gate. Hope it helps!

jrr
June 8th, 2003, 10:27 AM
http://www.jrtistic.com/images/junk/davi.jpg
did alittle paint over. basically i took an textured painting and overlayed it on there (spooges i think). so the rock look like rock and i bleed alittle of the yellow from the sky down to the rock. too much of the statue's heads are showing. from thsi angle they shouldn't be too clear, if i had more time i'd show you what i mean.