Me as an Elf!

[TreKKer]

So new Drawer needs help. ;)

So i have no Models, then i make me as an Model. :D

I wan`t me drawing as an Fantasycharacter. ;)

So i have make a sketches by my self.

http://trek25.tr.funpic.de/pics/Me_as_an_Elf-byTreKKer.jpg


I need Tips and Critiques by the hairs, by the beard.

The the Beard okey or must make an other Beard. Make the Hairs longer or shorter. That all. Or the Eyes, is that good or not.


I hope anybody can help me. :D

[TreKKer]

Looked self??? And say Critiques. Is that better or not. ;)

http://trek25.tr.funpic.de/pics/Me_as_an_Elf002-byTreKKer.jpg

[TreKKer]

So have make all a little bit darker. ;)

Around to see like the eyes to work if it are dark. And over to see with darker Beard. ;)

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4536/measanelf003bytrekkerzy4.jpg



Has anybody Tips where i drawing the lights from left or right???

[Serena-]

Awesome line work.

It appears the light is coming from behind him I guess.. with all the highlights on the hair. :)

[StealthNachos]

Left and right. With the main source coming from the left. Use 2 different colors like orange and blue. Make a fire going to the left or something? Then he'll be all hellbent on killing the guy what start the fire. This is just opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.

[TreKKer]

Left and right. With the main source coming from the left. Use 2 different colors like orange and blue. Make a fire going to the left or something? Then he'll be all hellbent on killing the guy what start the fire. This is just opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.


Ups a yes, i have you not correctly understand. :(

[Sepulverture]

I think what Stealthnachos means is that your picture would be interesting if you added two seperate light sources. You can put a fire to one side of him, which would create a really strong, warm colored lightsource, and then on his other side you could put a cool blue to contrast it (moon light, some magical light, etc.). If you follow the photo ref more closely when drawing the eye brow area, you can get a much fiercer look out of the drawn face. Just keep updating man, and we will try to help you :) .

[TreKKer]

Ahh okey but it gives one Problem. I draw that with Pencils not with Colorpencils. ;)


Here a Next Step. ;)

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4687/measanelf004bytrekkermp3.jpg

[StealthNachos]

Yeah, what Sepulverture said.

Even though you aren't using color you should still use the same method because it adds depth to the character.

Here's a crude cave drawing that represents what I mean.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/StealthNachos/bump.jpg

See, the main source is where you get your highlights and brightest colors, while the secondary is lower in intensity, but still adds enough to create further depth than with just the one.

[Tomato]

thats cool, but i agree with everyone else. you need to add some more shading to the image to make it stand out more, but other then that, its a nice idea and looks fun :) I might try it

[Ive]

I thought elves don't have beards :hmm:
looking good so far

[TreKKer]

Here a Next Step.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4687/measanelf004bytrekkermp3.jpg


eah, what Sepulverture said.

Even though you aren't using color you should still use the same method because it adds depth to the character.

Here's a crude cave drawing that represents what I mean.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/StealthNachos/bump.jpg

See, the main source is where you get your highlights and brightest colors, while the secondary is lower in intensity, but still adds enough to create further depth than with just the one.


You mean the left side from the Face i make it darker and the right side more lighter???

Look so:

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1433/bump2tm1.jpg

[GoldSeven]

Yes, AND put some more light into the shadow on the left. Not pure shadow. (What's your native language, by the way? German?)

Also, the nose has a strange shape; it's not nearly symmetrical.

[TreKKer]

Yes my native Language are German. ;)

My English is little bit bad. :(

Okey thanks i have it understood. ;)

Okey i have make a little bit chances. ;)

I have it make darker and thats the Result, think the original looks better than the Scanner Picture.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7899/measanelf005bytrekkereu8.jpg

[GoldSeven]

(I'll say this in German to make it easier for you.)

Sie meinten, dass zwei Lichtquellen das Bild interessanter machen würden - auch wenn du schwarz-weiß arbeitest, kannst du ja Lichter darstellen. Lass von links ein Licht und von rechts ein anderes kommen.

Wichtiger als die Beleuchtung ist aber die Anatomie. Die Nase ist übrigens nun noch schiefer als vorher! Spiegel das Bild mal (entweder digital oder halt es verkehrt rum gegens Licht), dann sieht du das. Dein Vorlagenfoto hat einen seltsamen Schattenwurf, den du nicht richtig wiedergibst und der dadurch alles verzerrt.

[Fellah.]

Take a really really good look at the nose on the photo and the nose on the drawing. (And then redraw it:) )

[TreKKer]

Here have make little chances. ;)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7566/measanelf007bytrekkerjr7.jpg

[GoldSeven]

Sorry, Trekker, that nose is still waaaaaay off....

You see an asymmetrical shape in your photo that just isn't there... have you tried mirroring your image? That will help you a lot.

[TreKKer]

Also ich soll die rechte Seite von der Nase spiegeln, um sie dann auf der linken Seite zu malen???



I mirroring the nose and drawing the mirroring right on the left site???

[GoldSeven]

No - flip the pic in Photoshop, rotate it horizontally. Or hold it up against the light and look at it from behind. This is just so you see your mistake, because now you obviously don't. (Maybe you'd better look for a German forum if you have this much trouble with English?)

Nein - spiegel das Bild in Photoshop, horizontal spiegeln, oder halt es gegens Licht und guck es dir von hinten an. Das bezieht sich nicht auf irgendwas, was du andersrum reinmalen sollst, sondern dient dazu, dass du den Fehler siehst, denn momentan sieht du ihn offenbar nicht.

(Und vielleicht suchst du dir eher ein deutsches Forum, wenn du mit Englisch solche Probleme hast?)

[IILooney]

Sorry, Trekker, that nose is still waaaaaay off....

You see an asymmetrical shape in your photo that just isn't there... have you tried mirroring your image? That will help you a lot.

I can't believe it took this long for somebody to mention the nose, and I'm really disliking the top of the head being cropped like so, also the body disappears beneath the trapezius. There's nothing worse than a fully rendered drawing with a bad composition and faulty structure. If your going to go this far on a piece you should make sure everything is correct before getting into it. It's a bitch to render an area for an hour and then see a glaring error that you either painstakingly correct, or allow to persist in making a shitty drawing.

I would suggest that you do multiple head studies, and self portraits in the mirror in order to get a better understanding of the head before you go turning yourself into an elf. If these ops sound harsh, don't take it personal, it's just the way I write.

[GoldSeven]

Actually, it was the third time I mentioned the nose. ;) Okay, one of those times was in German...

[TreKKer]

can't believe it took this long for somebody to mention the nose, and I'm really disliking the top of the head being cropped like so, also the body disappears beneath the trapezius. There's nothing worse than a fully rendered drawing with a bad composition and faulty structure. If your going to go this far on a piece you should make sure everything is correct before getting into it. It's a bitch to render an area for an hour and then see a glaring error that you either painstakingly correct, or allow to persist in making a shitty drawing.

I would suggest that you do multiple head studies, and self portraits in the mirror in order to get a better understanding of the head before you go turning yourself into an elf. If these ops sound harsh, don't take it personal, it's just the way I write.



Hmmm its hard what you write, but i think never is perfect.

Hmmm or you the King of drawing???

[TreKKer]

Okey here my next Step, hmmm or i leave it here what to posted. ;)


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/617/measanelf010bytrekkerqc8.jpg


What do you say???

[Fellah.]

I take it then you are not planning on fixing the nose?

[TreKKer]

Yes i know. The problem is the paper to places to the nose. Of many corrections and erase, the paper became brittle. And therefore I want to make nothing more otherwise still get broken the paper. By the next Picture must better look of this, of Nose, of Mouth, of the face. ;)


Sorry for my english. ;)