DSG 1110: Sci-Fi: COLLAPSED ROBOT LIES IN THE EMERALD HAZE AMIDST THE MANY TREES

[William b. Hand]

[ An exercise in atmosphere... ]

[ This image should have depth. ]

[ We should be able to sense the form of the robot, but the details will probably be unclear. ]

[ etc. ]

Sci-Fi: COLLAPSED ROBOT LIES IN THE EMERALD HAZE AMIDST THE MANY TREES
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[Johnnyhorse]

Sweet color! I'm gonna totally eye-drop that for the haze.
Im guess an emphasis on the atmostphere since no one really did it last time--I mean, I didn't really do it last time.

[summerrulesxp]

This took me about 45 minutes.

http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=justinsdrawingjpg1zm5.jpg

[ramonsk8]

I can make the tobot, yess

[sandworm]

Well, I've been some face studies for the last few days, so this is from a reference. Probably 4 hours, PS.
EDIT: Oh crap, realized too late it says "emerald haze."
EDIT 2: Updated, fixed a couple of minor issues, added more shadows under the red leaf (though at this size it may be hard to see). I'll change hosting the second I get back to the office. :)
http://myspace-714.vo.llnwd.net/01090/41/72/1090152714_l.jpg

[anjin]

Wow... very good. just one thing: is the red leaf a tatoo? I don't think so, because it seem to go out of the shape of the face. If it isn't a tatoo but a real leaf I'd make it bigger, so don't let doubt the observer. If is floating you could change the position.. if is above the girl... hummm I dont' know, anyway in this way it seems to me not so clear. My two cents! ;)

Good work!

[Aga]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Mankha/DSGrobotinhaze2.jpg

[sandworm]

Ya, it's a leaf :) I just didn't want to cover her face too much. Maybe a bit darker shadow under the tips...

[Johnnyhorse]

Yeah, I think it just needs a curved shadow to accentuate the curve of a face... same goes for the leaf on her arm -- I hope you did the piece in two layers (for the emerald haze), cause it's never too late to alter a DSG!

[ashton]

http://www.studiopumpernickel.com/ash/2006-dailysketch/COLLAPSED-ROBOT-.jpg
about 2hrs.
It needs more robot detail, but I have to sleep now.
I was going to put a few humans in for scale but hey.

Comments please.

[ramonsk8]

ashton, it's legs don't look quite natural. I knowit;s a robot, but still. but... I tyhink your background is amazing, I like the style, but I have no idea how to make things like that with photoshop.

[hergo]

Done in charcoal, took me about an hour.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2803/1110ib6.jpg

[Hamsta]

All chemical and biological scans came out moderate, and yet the survey bots continued dropping like flies.
painter, hour? came out meh
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8832/1110emeraldhazeqs0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[EvilCommunist]

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1559/treecopybc4.jpg

now I leave for a week of vacation :rendered:

[Crustacean]

Drawn in Flash, colored in PS, maybe 2 hours.

http://www.j-stengade.dk/1110.jpg

[viramz]

I'm still getting the hang of painting is PS, slow starter. Took me 1 hour for this one.
A scout droid downed on a alien planet, or something...:rolleyes:

http://stud.cmd.hro.nl/0776528/xtra/DSG1110.jpg

EvilCommunist: Very nice atmosphere, took me 5 min to find your droid thow

Hamster: Always a nice story, great work

hergo: no green charcoal? Just kidding, I suck with this stuff so i never touch it. Nice work.

ashton: nice elements and backgound, hoop you finish it.

Aga:has a nice cartoon look to it. I like your shadow work.

sandworm: :\ , dude that looks awsome!

Inspiring work, keep it up peeps!

[Brightdreamer]

Brush pen on sketchbook paper, with color work in Paint Shop Pro 7.

The men of Flesh and the men of Steel
For ages fought for command
Until struck down by the Living Earth
From which both kinds began...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/dreamlurker/DSG10Robot1j.jpg

[Blue_Tiger]

Hey All,
Here are my pencils, Prisma black and cool grey 30%
http://www.bluetigeranimation.com/aaron/DSG/DSG_1110_CollapsedRobot-Pencil.png
30 min. later... flat colors... I'll try and finish later on
http://www.bluetigeranimation.com/aaron/DSG/DSG_1110_CollapsedRobot-flats.png
I'll c&c later too

[Aga]

thx viramz

[Crustacean]

OK, I´ll try and make some comments, please disregard them if they make no sense.

Sandworm: Beautiful piece, nice rendering of the face and the leaves, although the high level of finish in those areas makes the images look somewhat uneven, IMO. I really like the silhouette of the tree in the top right. Not sure about the choice of the "blobby" orange brushstrokes though, I think i´d go with something either more hazy or more like floating points. And the red leave still looks painted on, sorry... :)

Aga: I like your retro robot, and the fact that you can clearly see what the malfunction is. The haze seems to be coming from the robot, is that on purpose? I think the image could use a little more depth, it seems rather flat with the really black background.

Ashton: I like the composition of your image, and the painterly feel, but: The robot looks organic - like a humanoid alien or somesuch (also, there seem to be blood leaking into the water), and the trees are more like a collection of short sticks sticking out of the ground (But that probably nitpicking...).

Hergo: Giant robot! Why didn´t I think of that. Nice mood. You don´t seem to be aiming at realism as such, so I guess there´s no point in bitching about that..

Hamsta: I like your quick strokes, big brushes and vibrant colors well enough. In this particular sketch, I think there´s a problem with the high level of contrast on the bot: I makes it look like it´s closer to us (sorta floating in the air), than the tree on the left.

EvilCommunist: I love this one. You can really feel the silence.

Crustacean: I don´t think trees of that size grow so close to each other. Also, what´s the point? Try to do a few thumbnails before just blurting out whatever is in your head.

viramz: I think the bot could use a little more definition; a bit of highlighting here and there, nothing too drastic. The colored lights look like eyes and a nose, I find that somewhat distracting.

Brightdreamer: Nice depth. I think maybe you should work with the color a little more, as it is, it´s really intensive green and contrasty (vs the black outline) over most of the image, it´s hard to pin down where the point of interest is supposed to lie.

Blue Tiger: Looking forward to seeing it done. As it is, the hair and the uniform makes the bot look human. It´s very hard to read the figure, partly because of the lack of "silhouette value", partly because you probably need to clearly define some planes with the lighting.

Hope this wasn´t stupid and annoying.

[hergo]

viramz: No, no green charcoal. I have my pastel chalks, which I kinda like using, but... well, read the next answer...

Crustacean: It's not like I'm not aiming at realism, it's more like I'm just trying to get some drawing rythm. I wasn't drawing much lately and I'm trying to solve that through this daily sketch thing... Though two weeks should be more than enough, so it's time to start doing some improvement here...

Well, thanks for the comments. I really like the stuff that usually come out of this threads, and as soon as I feel a bit more confortable arround I'll try to start doing some constructive comments, so keep up the good work people.

[sandworm]

Thanks Crusty, good comments. I really think it's the resolution for the leaf. In the real image, it has a nice shadow and the stem is pretty obvious. Any suggestions on how to make it look better? As for the background, I've been asking around with my friends, and some of them really love it, and you (like me) think it could be better. I might redo it on Monday, depending on how many new topics have popped up since then :)

[Crustacean]

The Leaf: Maybe you could add some dropshadow - it seems unlikely that a leaf would lie so flat and evenly against her skin. Or you could arrange for some overlapping - right now the leaf is cropped at the line of her jaw, which is reinforcing the tattoo-like appearance. On the other hand it looks plenty cool as it is, tattoo or not, so maybe you should just let it be... :-)

[viramz]

The leaf: I agree with crustacean. You could also pull some of the hair down her face and create more overlapping by putting the leaf on top.

[airrunkle]

Spent about an hour and i like where this is going so i may finish it. I think i need to start using more brushes though. whadya think?
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/airrunkle/DSG1110-WIP01.jpg

[mrdigs]

sandworm - very nice ! those face studies are really paying off.

airunkle - like the perspective, and the texture on the trees, definitely worth finishing, i'd like to see where you take it.

here's mine - you know how it is, you stagger away from a party and the next thing you know you're waking up slumped against a tree somewhere...

actually had a lot more trees in but i cropped it down, spent most of the time on this trying to figure out how to paint the tree and the forest floor !

a half assed step-by-step (with the strong possibilty of one of the steps being duplicated) can be found here. (http://www.nturner.co.uk/images/castuff/dsg1110-steps.jpg)

http://www.nturner.co.uk/images/castuff/dsg1110.jpg

[sandworm]

Great comments guys, thanks a lot! I'll do some work on it today if I get a chance and resubmit! :)
Airrunkle, nice perspective, I like shots like this.
Blue Tiger, good angle on the robot, I find it super hard to draw the human figure in bizarre contortions like that.
Diggs, is your guy an alcoholic? Like a Carnie, taking a break behind the lot? :) That's awesome!

[Hamsta]

Crustacean Hmm... The focus here seems to be the trees, unfortunetly, that is because they don't seem right, and we focus on mistakes. Part of the problem is the short strokes, creating the effect of thing overlapping where they shouldn't. The second problem is the branching, which looks unnatural to me.
The robot is a little boring.

viramz Is that a Roomba? no wonder it collapsed.
Trees look unnatural, I don't like the light falling down effect, some more contrast would be good, to pop out those green eyes, and to give an eerier atmosphere. And hard brushes are generally better, ok? ;)

[Brightdreamer]

Brightdreamer: Nice depth. I think maybe you should work with the color a little more, as it is, it´s really intensive green and contrasty (vs the black outline) over most of the image, it´s hard to pin down where the point of interest is supposed to lie.

Thanx for the comments. I was trying to cheat on the "mist" effect by using a gradient floodfill over the image, which expains why it ended up so intense. I really need to sit down and make myself learn to work with color more...

[Crustacean]

Hamsta: Thanks for the comment. I guess you´re right, those trees are in dire need of some sorting out. Didn´t really occur to me, how disturbing those short strokes are till just now.

[viramz]

Thx for the feedback Hamsta. Will try out the hard brushes next time, haven't realy had the time to experiment painting in PS yet. And what's a Roomba?

[Vulgar`]

Sandworm - Best I've seen from you. Try doing it over with green trees and post it in "Finally Finished!" - I think it's worthy of commentary.

[sandworm]

Ok, here are two versions, an edited one with a still autumnish feel, and a green one, to fit in with the topic. Which one do you guys like better? Vulgar, I'd love to post in Finally Finished! I never thought my stuff was on the level for that. Can I please get a vote from you guys? I appreciate all your help with critiquing this one specifically, Vulgar's right, I think it might be my best work.

EDIT: Now that I've posted it to the Finally Finished section, I've gotten some awesome suggestions, and have cleaned it up quite a bit. This orange one is my newest revision.
http://www.ilidesign.com/art/bed%20of%20leaves%20autumn%20new.jpghttp://www.ilidesign.com/art/bed%20of%20leaves%20green.jpg

[Johnnyhorse]

If you do post in the "Finally Finished," which I think it is worthy of, I would suggest 2 things: 1. although the leaves and blossoms (not the fallen ones) are vivid and fun, give some of them a more natural shape since the woman is done in such a realistic way (not all, just enough so that you know what the other leaves are generally shaped like). 2. She is entirely too white to be in such a saturated background, and the light may be too diffused all around her.
I tried this DSG today and just couldn't find anything im happy with... sad :( Glad you had so much success!

[sandworm]

Thanks a lot, Johnnyhorse! maybe you're right, I'll see what I can do...
EDIT: Ok, take a look above at the orange one, I've added leaves both to the foreground and background to give it a more foresty feel.

[mrdigs]

sandworm - Love they way yours is developing - if you're taking this all the way to a finished piece I would suggest making some changes to add some shape to her arm, and the leaf that sits between that and her face. At the moment it seems almost like the floor, the leaf and the arm are on the same flat plane. I think if the leaf was sandwiched between her arm and her face it wouldn't sit so straight.

[Johnnyhorse]

EDIT: Ok, take a look above at the orange one, I've added leaves both to the foreground and background to give it a more foresty feel.

Good, very subtle, but worked out well i think.

[awalloffire]

I haven't done a dsg in a long time. Maybe 20 mins or so.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/awalloffire/Cloneofdsgemerald.jpg

[sandworm]

Thanks, Mr. Digs and Johnny. I've got one more revision to do, and I'll definitely keep you guys' suggestions in mind. Good eye for the leaf, Digs, I'll certainly address that issue in the next version.

[LateNiteHype]

First DSG-

got tired of updating the sketchbook, so i figure I tackle a subject for once. Also gives me a chance to practice my CG.

oC1.1 finished with GIMP
Longer than it should have been.
Here it is...

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...loss of contact of surveillance droids. Contact by hostile forces confirmed- suspected guerilla mercenary squad. Evidence of a fire fight: none. Evidence of life: none.

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16864&stc=1&d=1156838815

http://www16.brinkster.com/iko219/dsg1110_EMERALDROBOT.jpg

[ramonsk8]

from now on I´m going to make something for every new idea, I need some practice and I like these assignments

[peterhurman]

lots of good entries, fun topic today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/peterhurmanuk/Untitled-123-1.jpg

[Aga]

airruncle- like the perspective and the brushes on trees work well with the subtle linework.
nice pict ;)

thanx for a crit Crustacean
unfortunatly I draw the haze quite thoughtlessly ;P
btw, about your own crit - I really like the mood on yours and think that - if you had obeyed the logic rules (with the trees), you would have ruined this mood which I like :dead:
you have posted here ,so far, some cool picts ,especially the messy ones

mrdigs- I saw your drawing process picts tooday and haven't got any objection ,by now, it looks, for me , that your way of drawing is correct.
I was tooday on your website and I'm going to check your paintings this week:}

[Crustacean]

Thanks Aga. What you say makes a lot of sense to me. From now on, I will attempt to think even less. :)

[Aga]

he he

[Hamsta]

Thx for the feedback Hamsta. Will try out the hard brushes next time, haven't realy had the time to experiment painting in PS yet. And what's a Roomba?

A Roomba is a robotic vacuum cleaner

[viramz]

That one from SW?

[mrdigs]

Aga - Thanks, it's good to know I'm not tackling everything back to front ! hope you like the paintings, most of the stuff on my site is kinda old now, need to do an update but I'm waiting to switch hosts for some more space.

[Naomi Ningishzidda]

Sandworm that is really beautiful. (I did think the robot was Canadian at first):canadian:

It would look really fantastic if you polished it up. Those colors are striking with the emerald.