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Oblio
July 17th, 2006, 11:52 AM
http://www.oreganoproductions.com/chow/chowlines.jpg

ROUND #34


:right: PLEASE CONSOLIDATE YOUR WIPS AND FINALS INTO YOUR FIRST POST.

:right: CLEARLY DESIGNATE YOUR FINAL.

:right: FOLLOW THE TOPIC & POST A DESCRIPTION.
:grandpa: You will receive votes for every successful representation of the topic elements and for your description. The ammount of votes will be listed in the round topic.

:right: PLACE THE IMAGE IN A FRAME WITH YOUR NAME/TOPIC
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/ChowPics/frame.jpg
(you can add CA logo, etc).


:right: Please save your files starting with your nickname.
example: "Oblio_CHOW23_Platformer33 copy copy.jpg" ;)
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DEADLINE
SUNDAY, JULY 23rd
The way the deadline works: if deadline is on a Sunday and your image is posted on that Sunday 23:59 your local time it's a good entry.
In fact - as long there is Sunday somewhere on the planet your entry is ok. I will make the poll sometimes Monday afternoon my time (GMT +2) yet i'll have a look at the last entries.
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Morganica - 1930's - the 1st Android
He couldn't believe his eyes... in the middle of the night... it moved.
He felt asleep and the sound of the whole installation being scratched... made him shiver. It bloody moves!!!!
The professor already knew the name of his creation.
He could not even consider the possibilities of what he created.
Dark thoughts were in his mind...
It was real... now what?
Now... concept! :yayca:

Topic elements:
1 = 1930's
2 = Android

Make sure your picture contains these - you will receive 5 VOTES for each topic covered.
3 extra votes will be offered for the description.

PsychoVoodoo
July 17th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Wow, intense, this'll be an awesome topic... I'm ON IT!!!

FunkytownP
July 17th, 2006, 12:45 PM
me too

Migsta
July 17th, 2006, 01:16 PM
FINAL

http://www.miguellleras.com/images/Migsta_CHOW34_Morganica.jpg

He couldn't believe his eyes... in the middle of the night... it moved.
He fell asleep and the sound of the whole installation moving... made him shiver. It bloody moves!!!!
The professor witnessed his creation working on itself, finishing what he had started.
He could not even consider the possibilities of what he created.
Dark thoughts were in his mind...
It was real... now what?

3dtwo
July 17th, 2006, 01:20 PM
ill try this one. wish me luck.

Michael Jaecks
July 17th, 2006, 02:02 PM
It doesnt say in the description, but it is intended to be female, with a name like that.... right? Hmmm.

walnut
July 17th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Domebody's been watching Metropolis once too often methinks.

Oblio
July 17th, 2006, 02:26 PM
everything is at your choice - male/female/creature/abstract... as long as it still stands as and "android".
As for Metropolis.. nice ref. but... we can do... different? better? else? :mouse:

Ashrumm
July 17th, 2006, 02:34 PM
These Community activities are too irresitible, i guess i better try my hand at this weeks. Better get to brainstorming!!

trevor
July 17th, 2006, 04:13 PM
i am so in on this
Edit
heres a preliminary sketch (not my final Illo)
just to knock out an art deco sort of design
i like it but it needs a few design tweaks
just trying to keep it fast and loose
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/trevorclaxton/Trevor_Chow34_Test.jpg

cakeypigdog
July 17th, 2006, 06:13 PM
fun fun!

Art2
July 17th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Cool topic.
1930's and androids, yeah!

bumskee
July 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM
*jumps in the bandwagon*

guggemmaneuver
July 17th, 2006, 07:59 PM
great topic!
guggencountmein!

j

GriNGo
July 17th, 2006, 08:18 PM
good topic!

koppa
July 17th, 2006, 08:51 PM
im in

SquirrelHunter17
July 17th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Oooooooh, I gotta get in on this one O__o

trevor
July 18th, 2006, 03:53 AM
first sketch up above!
woot im first

SquirrelHunter17
July 18th, 2006, 04:59 AM
I cant even compete with trevor's design :/

KaWaii
July 18th, 2006, 05:42 AM
After a few CHOW's, I'm back again XD !! (looking at Oblio*)

WOOT, Bumpskee is here also :)

Anyway, I'll just do my best and try to get in ^^
Or else........ try again next time :O


EDIT FINAL:

EDIT: I received some nice feedback and I decided to change some stuff. I think it's ok since the poll thread is not created yet.

http://www.kawais-domain.com/Kawaii_CHOW34_Morganica.jpg

I did it, I've used my whole life to complete it. Yesterday, while I was painted her face, it moved, it bloody moved !
I told it to sleep, shut it down, plugged in the cable to recharge her. I was sleepy.

The next morning,

I woke up. It was noisy. I opened my eyes and there it was. "My little child", and a lot of smoke.
I see she's trying to walk. Her back is faced at me. I can see she's having trouble with walking. She's just like an innocent newborn child who knows nothing at all. It still has to grow and it needs guidance.

It noticed my presence and turned her face at me. Staring with a face like it has a lot of questions about things she doesn't understand.

I grabbed my hat and jacket, dressing her up. You wouldn't want a naked smoking android walking through your house do you? I lifted up my arms doing a pose like "what now?". Then it happened...

It copied me !! She used one of her arms to copy my pose !! (my piece captures the moment) This is AMAZING !!! I'm so amazed my mouth fell open. I can see lots of interesting and fun days awaiting us. I want to see how she'll develop. Let's go my sweet little Morganica...

KaWaii
July 18th, 2006, 05:46 AM
and Trevor, nice start WOOT !

dark sepiroth
July 18th, 2006, 05:52 AM
my final.... (what a progress from my last wip)
http://student-kmt.hku.nl/~anthonie/chow/chow%2034.jpg


Dark thoughts were in his mind...
Everything else around him just vanished asif it was an illusion!
He only saw his creation standing in front of him.
Things went in a flash through his mind.
He knew that he'd created something that noone else had ever created before.
The fine craftsmanship has to be thanked for because of his sernior blacksmith crew.
Also possebilities came up in his mind.
Making wealth with it?.. fame?.... army?..... or even world domination.....
The only thing he could conclude was that is was real....

shadoman
July 18th, 2006, 07:21 AM
Final
http://www.shawnadomanis.com/images/illustrations/Shadoman_ChOW34_Morganica.jpg

Zram
July 18th, 2006, 12:10 PM
I think we need a chow icon, don't you?

bumskee
July 18th, 2006, 07:05 PM
hey kawaii, good luck with TD btw. :)

Trevor!!! you bastid! :P that's friggin sweet. look forward to the finish product, however I do think it's damn good as it is.. heh

trevor
July 18th, 2006, 08:04 PM
hahahah thanks guys
if this were a month ago i would leave it as is
but im working on a new portfolio and
i want finished compositions
i have no doubt that you bum skee are going to make another ridiculously awesome peice this time and own me

bumskee
July 18th, 2006, 08:13 PM
:P haha, craps that's my line! you stole my line mate.

Mr. Visions
July 18th, 2006, 08:36 PM
I'm in suckas! -

Hahaha, this time period should be fun. Great on the last one, by the way fellas, hope the turn is just as AMAZING!

Edit: Sorry fellas I won't be able to make it this week. Just started a new Job this week so to say the least I've been busy. Nice turn out thus far, keep it up -

- Visions

bumskee
July 18th, 2006, 08:59 PM
You are jumping in too mr visions?? *sigh*....

Migsta
July 19th, 2006, 04:03 AM
Got a sketch up! Post #4...

Oblio
July 19th, 2006, 04:35 AM
voting design has just been updated. download the patch.. and... see you on the poll ;)

dannE-B
July 19th, 2006, 05:18 AM
This is my Final.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Reanimate/Prophet_Chow34_1930Android.jpg

Sparks flew and lights twitched, the thing had awoken..finally after all this time he had done it, he had created the first android. Morganica sat up on her cold table, turned her head to track the only warm, living thing in the room, her creator. Master and puppet, both locked in an intense unbreakable stare, thoughts running riot through each of there minds.

dark sepiroth
July 19th, 2006, 06:36 AM
nice piece prophet.
very nice peace so far.

Alzorath
July 19th, 2006, 08:41 AM
Here's my final:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/Alzorath/Alzorath_CHOW34_Morganica3.jpg
From the Journal of Dr. Edward Fitzpatrick (1887-1931)
Thursday March 15, 1928 - A tragedy
Today, my daughter Morgane fell ill with pneumonia, the doctors aren't sure if she'll even last the night. All I can do is pray, I feel so helpless... she's only 17, why did it have to happen to someone so young?

Monday March 19, 1928 - Things are looking up
They released Morgane from the hospital today, she's not fully recovered, but the doctors say with some bed rest and relaxation she'll make a full recovery in a few days.

Tuesday March 20, 1928 - A dark day
Those damn doctors, curse them all, how could they let her die, how could they let my baby die. [Words Unintelligable, many scratched out beyond recognition]

Thursday November 15, 1928 - I have discovered a way
I will bring her back, I have found the way, there is hope. I don't know how far this will take me, but I will bring her back.

[Many months, entries, and years go by in the journals, many failed experiments, many failed tries.]

Monday May 18, 1931 - It works!
How appropriate, today would have been her 21st birthday. It's been over 3 years since she left me, but she finally came back last night. My baby has returned to me, but she's different...so different, but she's my baby. I will call her Morganica.

[Several months pass, and he grows accustomed to his new daughter. He keeps her within the house because he knows that the world would not understand.]

Wednesday September 16, 1931 - It can't
It can't be happening again, I can't lose my baby again. They found out about her, they won't let her be, I must get her out of here. We must run away where we can never be found.

[Three days later the corpse of Dr. Edward Fitzpatrick, and what remained of his 'Morganica' were found in the woods by some hunters. Dr. Edward Fitzpatrick had died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the right temple. 'Morganica' must have been dismantled elsewhere, some parts were never found, and evidence she had been dragged was present in the mud nearby. 'Morganica' never functioned again despite many efforts to rebuild her.]

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Updated Wednesday Thursday July 20, 2006.

My goal with doing the weekly exercises is to learn and refine. So in all of my images I will be trying to work on something that I feel I need to improve. C&C very welcome.

KaWaii
July 19th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Lol,

Bumpskee, you good luck too in TD, o well, we should just let de judges do the hard work haha, let's have fun in here.

And WOOT ! new WIP's XD.
Unfortunatly, I haven't started drawing yet T.T

Wafflehouseninja
July 19th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Im sitting this one out guys. Need time to work on other things but im loving what im seeing so far. Keep it up foos!

Trev:Hell thats bad ass in its sketch form

kaktuzlime
July 19th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Trev, that roxx.

dark sepiroth
July 19th, 2006, 12:12 PM
nice wips so far guys.

3dtwo
July 19th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Finally done. Here is my chow any crititism would be helpful for future chows.
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6100/morganica02ny9.jpg
After many years,something went wrong. Its creator had to destroy it.

fuuryoku
July 19th, 2006, 03:12 PM
Final image for the activity, though I'm seriously contemplating taking it farther later.
http://www.thomscottart.com/images/morganica.jpg

"The inventor had worked for close to two decades trying to realize Capek's vision of the robot. The obsession was to prove both his greatest boon and bane however, when the Great Depression claimed the life of his daughter Morgan. The work kept him functional, but his grief and burning need to see his daughter again made him consider the unnatural. On a fateful day in 1935, working with the same feverish mad genius Shelley had ascribed to Frankenstein, he used elecricity to copy the contents of his dead daughter's mind to the android shell. Somehow, it worked. the diodes and vacuum tubes that had been barely motive before, began to move more and more smoothly. Soon the metal girl was moving with the same dancers grace and elegance of his lost daughter- not quite her, but close enough that he thought her ghost must be part of her"

I tried to evoke some art deco statuettes I had looked up images of and their flowing dancer lines, while adding an obvious dose of early 20th century technology in the joints and glowing vacuum tubes.
-Fuu

walnut
July 19th, 2006, 04:31 PM
One thing that really puzzles me: why are all you people's androids female?

dannE-B
July 19th, 2006, 04:53 PM
I dunno, i heard someone mention FEMALE, so i thought..yes, female, ofcourse..anyways, i figure some lonely scientist back in the 1930's wouldnt make a MALE robot? Now a female robot,....not so lonely anymore....

fuuryoku
July 19th, 2006, 05:29 PM
That and the name Morganica sounds very female.

my $.02

-Fuu

dark sepiroth
July 19th, 2006, 07:12 PM
my android is a man. a real man :D

btw 3Dtwo I like those chains. gives a nice touch

Eriboss
July 19th, 2006, 07:30 PM
FINAL:

http://www.reelfilms.co.uk/images/eriboss_chow34_android.jpg

The professor felt something gnawing deep within his guts, the sound of his creation, his life’s work, screaming a curdling metallic cry from downstairs, cutting through the night like a scalpel through an eyeball.

"No no no, this is Wrong! This was never meant to be, it wasn't supposed to ever LIVE. They will be after me now for sure, and it...."

CLANG

He was commissioned to design an "android" by the government as the stench of war seeped slowly under the countries door. But he wasn’t supposed to build it - not yet!

CLANG

"The bloody thing is nuclear! And nobody knows about it except me"

CLANG

"Its not ready, I was going to shut it down after the last “accident” – no more people can die at the hands of this thing!

CREAK


The nuclear power when linked to “her” brain inside the machine were way too volatile a combination… Sometimes I believe she is tormenting me, coming back… no NO!

BZZt...
HELLOoo DAaRLING bzTtt

…may god have mercy on all our souls..."

___

Eri

Landauart
July 19th, 2006, 08:16 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i205/landauart/landauart-chow-34.jpg

Welp here's mine...Had to rush her out before comicon. Ill post the story later

nathonicus
July 19th, 2006, 08:53 PM
I'll.... try....

carotello
July 20th, 2006, 03:32 AM
I have been super super busy, but I couldn't resist this one chow. Here is a quicky. Good job everyone, I think this is gonna be a fun round with lots of cool entries. Trevor, beautiful man. Hope you don't leave those legs out in the finish, it's looking a little top heavy right now. Eriboss, can't wait to see.

http://www.carotellogallery.com/CA/carotello_chow34_morganica.jpg
Augustus Lodwick, an empoverished british inventor, lost his wife to tuberculosis the winter of 1930. He gathered his belongings and moved to New York with his daughter, Morrigan. Upon his arrival, and thanks to a few contacts, he landed a job as a professor of science at NYU. Absorbed by his work, he failed to notice Morrigan's symptoms until it was too late. She died on a rainy night, plunging the professor into a deep depression that drove him mad. Overcome with grief, he gathered what he could of his daughters remains, with the intention of bringing her back to life. He was unable to preserve her organs, but her brain he managed to keep alive. He brought her back, inside the shell of her favorite porcelain doll, along with an intricate construction of wires, cogs, and unimaginable mechanisms even he could not remember how to make. Once the deed was done, and he only waited for the spark of life to manifest in her, he fell asleep, only to dream of the horror he had brought upon the face of earth.

acorn
July 20th, 2006, 03:33 AM
All done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/mitsun/CHOw23.jpg

KaWaii
July 20th, 2006, 03:40 AM
Morganica, the name.......
it just ASKS for a female :)

I''m worrying about one thing though, "Dark thoughts were in his mind... "
What could that be? XD The professor is evil?

Supervlieg
July 20th, 2006, 04:22 AM
Hija folks, this theme sounds like fun. Count me in

Edit:
http://www.bolman.nl/cgtalk/supervlieg_chow34.jpg

No story yet, might come later.

Bryno
July 20th, 2006, 04:35 AM
Hi there guys
It's a Final, and this is my first post on this forum...
Tell me what u think!

http://www.kawais-domain.com/bryno_kanalola_chow34.jpg

A by Hawaiian's assembled from shipwreck-parts-robot in 1929,
given life by weird-ancient-island-magic preformed by the main village Shaman,
to protect the Hawaiians from the fierce-sea-gods (and crasy-westerners).
:)
"When the shaman awoke the very next day, he heard something move in his hut...
There was no doubt, no question... His ritual had succeeded!

Not long after, he realized that it was not his place, not his meaning to create life...
He created out of hate! Nothing would come from his creation but hate!
The gods would avenge this evil deed! He must destroy this creature before it was too late!

............

But it was... (buwhahahahahahaaaa!!!)

(ps. he looks trough the line on his face)

NukleoN
July 20th, 2006, 05:26 AM
http://nukleon.com/assets/images/ConceptArt/Morganica-color-865.jpg

Dad spent a lot of time in his workshop. We kids would fall asleep to the comforting sounds of his late-night tinkering and the familiar smell of Dad's ever-present Black Gold pipe tobacco. We dared not interrupt his work....ever since Mom left he'd been a bit more reclusive than usual. We were used to his 'projects', but this one had to be special. One night, Dad woke us up from our sleep....

'Kids, meet yer new mom!'

My brother and I were bleary-eyed...and I couldn't believe what I just heard. Was I dreaming?

'New...mom?' ' I blinked with amazement at the....thing....in front of me. 'Wha-'?

'Now see here boys....yer mom ran off with that no-good milkman. On account o' that I gotta keep up appearances I tell ya...besides, she's a looker ain't she?'

He looked at her thoughtfully and drew on his pipe.

'Dad...what does she do? Why did you make her?' I was actually impressed by Dad's clever use of household objects, strange as it was.

'She's an 'android', he said slowly, as if it was an important word. 'I call her Morganica...look, even kitty likes her!' Dad seemed to drift off in thought.

Suddenly he snapped to. 'Jules Verne himself would be proud....lookie here...she brought me a drink! Why thank you, Morganica!'

With that, he gleefully threw back a shot o' sauce and gave us the dopiest grin ever.

We all laughed at his crazy joke and welcomed Morganica, and the future, to our tiny home.

Supervlieg
July 20th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Hey Bryno, I like it. Though it still needs some work, whats up with those legs? Better start working on it man.

Bryno
July 20th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Hee hee Supervlieg-je! Thanks for the crits (hehehe- ill start working on those legs asap)! Btw, still waiting paciently for your char :) !

carotello
July 20th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Nukleon, I liked where your idea was going a lot, but I can't see the image anymore.
It looked to me like you had a really good top: torso, head, arms, but were still working on the bottom. Post it back! I wanna see it.

NukleoN
July 20th, 2006, 01:23 PM
Thanks Carotello...I see the image now...can you see the bottom of her feet and all? Maybe it got cut off when you loaded it? Hey I like the baby-android you're working on...looks very period!

Thanks for the kind words. :D Can't wait to finish her up...got some color goin' on now with cleaner lines. Mmmmm...Painter 5.03. ;)

shadoman
July 20th, 2006, 01:32 PM
I added one on page 1.

trevor
July 20th, 2006, 01:55 PM
ooooh i hope i have time to finish mine
these are all lookin great
but unfortunately a certain mall store
has decided they need a mens line
and then for some reason they decided i had to do all the graphics....by sunday
ill do my best i really want to finish it
oh and carotello
she will maintain her topheavy-ness
it will make more sense later
(good pic btw, never even thought of a child)

KaWaii
July 20th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Added my WIP at my reserved spot :D

Main Loop
July 20th, 2006, 03:58 PM
migsta - if you ask me, it looks too much liek the metropolis bot, but i like the coloring style a lot

dark sepiroth
July 20th, 2006, 04:33 PM
added my wip too at my reseved spot right under you kawaii ^^

Supervlieg
July 20th, 2006, 05:38 PM
Updated my first post with a WIP.

Bryno, great update man, looks good. I like the textures.Try a more action type pose next!

Kawaii, Good start man, cant wait to see more. I allready like the hat.

Migsta
July 20th, 2006, 09:21 PM
Thanks MainLoop, crappy part is I've never seen that reference til someone mentioned it here. So, I'll have to conitinue just to finish it, but i'll try to make it different enough in the painting...:android:

KaWaii
July 21st, 2006, 02:17 AM
thx Supervlieg ^^.

I'll go painting lik a moron today as pomised haha.
btw, nice WIP's so far Dark Sephiroth, Supervlieg, Bruno. Keep it up.

KaWaii
July 21st, 2006, 02:20 AM
Wow, Migsta, same total post hehe, I win now ! :D (27)

Art2
July 21st, 2006, 02:45 AM
Hey SuperV, nice to see some stuff by you again. Great start buddy.

MichaelMotion
July 21st, 2006, 04:26 AM
Indeed!
That's a great looking WIP Supervlieg..

NukleoN: funny sketch!
carotello: Nice! Hope it can't cry, rust you know..
Landauart: Love the simplicity. Guess the first android was build simple, detail came later with the android no. 28..
trevor: Looks great!

Looking good folks! Keep it up..

Supervlieg
July 21st, 2006, 05:08 AM
Thanks guys!

Hey Art2, good to see you in here as well. Where's your wip man!

dark sepiroth
July 21st, 2006, 06:22 AM
why don't we just make this a dutch thread:P like half this thread comes from the Netherlands.

Ok first of all.
bruno. I like your colors. maybe a little bit of retouching with the pose.
(Not that my pose is great or anything.)

Supervlieg. I like your art. it's very loose. I'm trying to practice the way of painting like u just showed. Somehow I'm falling back to another technique.
And well I know you alot longer from another great forum ^^

Nukleon. I like the way how u're filling your robot with color

well guys keep it up ^_^

Bryno
July 21st, 2006, 08:31 AM
...... Wow i really like the way all the artwork is developing!

i'm facing kind of a dilemma though... should i start over with a new pose, a more exiting one? mmm- will take me alot more time...

and ehhh..... NEDERLAND ROCKS!!!!!!!! :P

dark sepiroth
July 21st, 2006, 08:56 AM
yeah well doesn't matter now. just work on this one. Just take the idea with you to make other better poses. I'll do that too since I have the same problem in this
topic

fuuryoku
July 21st, 2006, 02:28 PM
completely rebooted mine. I came to hate the stiffness of the composition. The new design is similar (art nouveau touches, vacuum tubes) but the comp is simpler and the pose more flowing.

-Fuu

Cookiedough
July 21st, 2006, 06:24 PM
Not sure how much i like my entry, but it was a good step to experiment a li'l. I had much fun doing this. Really love the entries so far.

My take:
The good Professor was a well respected man, always sophisticated and intelligent. However, feeling lonely at times, he built himself Morganica: a bubbly, happy and cheerful android, which’d never leave his side. Every night before he’d go to bed, he’d plugged Morganica into a giant battery-like device in his lab, along with her faithful dogbot Jack.

http://home.planet.nl/~jaina010/blah/cookiedough_chow34_morganica.jpg

dark sepiroth
July 21st, 2006, 06:59 PM
true fuuryoku. I like your pose alot more now.
also I am thinking of making a new one..... since I don't like the pose enough.
but well I don't have much time since I have more things to do.
Oh well.

CheshireLyon
July 21st, 2006, 07:44 PM
Here is my final

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/Chesire_Lyon/CheshireLyon_Chow34_Morganica_copy.jpg

"Yes at last, my power source has finally arrived, the fragment of the meteor which conveniently fell of the back of that government truck, the last piece of my perfect revenge. Now it is only a matter of time before she’s charged, before my plans are put into order.

Whose designs are inefficient now Hastings?

We would have taken the worlds fair by storm, and finally gotten out grant, but my wife, that vamp, she ruined everything. Oh, she will rue the day she put on her glad rags and ran off with my assistant Hastings, laughing...

always laughing...

and with Hastings!? that bumbling fool, that fool that cracked her perfect porcelain face.

Well we'll see who's laughing now

Laughing when she breaks down their door"

Eriboss
July 21st, 2006, 07:57 PM
juss updated with another wip on page 1,
Nice work all round so far,

Cheers
Eri

GratefulDread
July 21st, 2006, 11:04 PM
umm guys. I dont want to seem critical, however, I dont see 1930's in any of your designs. did any of you do any research on the type of electronics avalible in the 1930's there were no microchips. there were no small intricate mechanics. The most advanced thing avalible in the 1930's was a diode larger than your standard light bulb with a flat end.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/GratefulDread/1_tuber.jpg
I dont mean to be a bitch but hey I thought the 1930's were an intrical part of this concept. you can see the diode on this little radio
you can also see the scematics (sp?) for this little device and you can see even a simple circuit was huge in the 30's
I have to change my statement. Migsta added the front of a 30's style home radio and to me seems to be the ONLY one who even has a little of the 30's in his design.

Main Loop
July 21st, 2006, 11:24 PM
research? What's research??

surfacemonkey
July 21st, 2006, 11:50 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/whoami2u/AndroidChow34.jpg


I stole the "century" poster in the background, and the textures off the web.. don't know if this disqualifies me, but i had fun anyway.


story:

The cruel irony of life came to the scientist... That same cold, emotionless smile. The lack of passion. His new creation truly was the perfect replacement for the wife he had left... He now knew himself destined.. to share life with someone who would not share her life with him.

Alzorath
July 22nd, 2006, 12:55 AM
The clothing and vehicle in mine are both in the same styles as those of the 1930s...If you want to really get technical - actual androids wouldn't have been impossible to build back then. Several of the others have also integrated objects from the 1930s, even if the actual android isn't comprised of the same technology as was available back then.

NukleoN
July 22nd, 2006, 01:03 AM
I dont mean to be a bitch but hey I thought the 1930's were an intrical part of this concept. you can see the diode on this little radio
you can also see the scematics (sp?) for this little device and you can see even a simple circuit was huge in the 30's
I have to change my statement. Migsta added the front of a 30's style home radio and to me seems to be the ONLY one who even has a little of the 30's in his design.

GratefulDread: You're right, my android doesn't have a thing from the 30's. The somewhat chauvanistic madman who built her used parts laying around since the 20's or earlier. ;)

I beg to differ tho...I see lots of 30's influence..with a smattering of other decades in smaller bits here and there.

MichaelMotion- Heh thanks...I thought it was funny too....some guy tacked on nearly everything he could associate with his idea of female roles. ;) Age old story...guy needs ale and cigarettes...howzabout we build an android to fetch 'em, see? It's genius I tell ya...genius!

Dark Sepiroth: Thanks! I have a little more to do. I'd like to add more without making it too busy. Gotta sell the thread on her face better and detail more of the nails/rivets.

Cookiedough: I find your entry really charming because it looks like it was *drawn* in the 30's..I mean that in a good way. I can't place it...not just coz it's grayscale...something about it tries for the future in the fashion of someone firmly entrenched in old times. Makes me smile.

Migsta: You know I dig your rendering style mang!

Trevor: Cool concept and nice painting!

Landauart Very cool...nice and clean. The vacuum reminds of the 50's but overall it reads earlier...dig the hat..hehe....

Say, keep up the great work fellers and dames..ya see....on account a youse ye make me wanna draw, see? :D

CheshireLyon
July 22nd, 2006, 01:20 AM
It seems to go without saying that in no way would the technology necessary for an android to exist in the 1930s. Even if somehow there was a system sophisticated enough for spacial awareness and interaction it would be far too bulky to fit inside of a human-shaped chassis, which is the most defining factor for an android. While some of the designs may be outlandish some could be believable, rather than just dismissing them out of hand with a ridiculous stipulation, which would eliminate every design. Microchips and circuitry aside, I’m not entirely sure what you are referring to that no small mechanics existed, watches for example are quite intricate, and it isn’t all that far a reach from the available technology for small pneumatics or hydraulics to be created. As far as the argument that no design contains influence from the 1930s you seem to be completely ignoring trends in art, architecture and fashion.

also small update a few posts up

Main Loop
July 22nd, 2006, 01:55 AM
and also to build on what cheshirelyon is saying, look at Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, the movie is obviously set in the 30's, and i think most of the technology is believable within the story's perameters... I think you can build a lot from the time period without either getting too technical or outlandish..

surfacemonkey
July 22nd, 2006, 02:20 AM
Well mine would work in the 30's.... it's just a gold mannequin with a light bulb...

Maybe they didnt' have red light bulbs in the 30's though... DANG!

GratefulDread
July 22nd, 2006, 04:15 AM
I think thou dost protest to quickly. I think maybe you took me the wrong way. I wasnt trying to impose limitations nor was I dismissing anyones designs. I think most of them look great. I was merely stating my opinion. And CHESHIRE you are correct watches and clockworks are very intricate machines and I actually intended to include them in my discussion, however I got tired and lazy. I expected to see more clockworks actually and its what I would have attempted had I had anywhere near the time to get in on this one. or even steamworks.
I guess what i was intending to say was that the machinations shown bear no indication to their power source, etc. try to find a battery you could run one of those on in the 1930's that wasnt as big and heavy as a truck.
I gues what Im tryin to say is I wanted to see someone tackle those types of issues. Actually taking the avalible components of the 30's and working with them to create an android.
take it for what it is don't get so offended next time I'll explain better when I have an issue.
sorry nukeleon your right brooms were avalible in the 30's

Mr-Joe
July 22nd, 2006, 05:39 AM
Supervlieg, this is freekin awesome man! is that photoshop?

KaWaii
July 22nd, 2006, 07:05 AM
Hehe, I agree that with the technologie in 1930, it would be impossible to build a living android. So I tried to give mine some clothes. (1930?? When looking for references, I only saw some clothes :/)

However, it's a history WE made up.

And maybe......

There was actually an unknown-ultra-super-genius-professor-living-back-there-with-far-beyond-human-knowledge (which explains why we still don't have " living" androids in 2006) who created the first self thinking android. (*part of my discription ahum*, ahum*)

dark sepiroth
July 22nd, 2006, 07:26 AM
yeah!!! I agree.

mine was also ultra super genius haha. wow the world really is a small place :).
and well I just rasters, unfinetuned metal work, chains and stuff like that. that is als things that come from the 30's and even before that.

KaWaii
July 22nd, 2006, 07:36 AM
Rolf, I see everyone online all of a sudden XD

seba_boi
July 22nd, 2006, 07:45 AM
The 1930s is the time of the Great Depression but also a good time for scientific revolution... Wasn't the secret of nuclear fusion discovered during the '30s and then taken a step further to build an atomic bomb during the Second World War?...

KaWaii
July 22nd, 2006, 07:58 AM
How should I know? I'm from 1986 XD

dark sepiroth
July 22nd, 2006, 08:30 AM
haha trat's truly a logical expected answer from kawai haha :D
but yess that's definetly true. they where already researching about many things. if they can build a nuke strong enough to blow up tons and tons of things then a robot is not even a subject to discuss about. From
what I've seen all these robots "can" come from the 30's.

Supervlieg
July 22nd, 2006, 11:00 AM
http://www.bolman.nl/cgtalk/supervlieg_chow34_morganica.jpg

The professor was sure he had it. The answer to creating artificial life! His terrible creature should be alive, but somehow it wasn't moving.

"It's horrible! I'm an idiot! I wasted my time on this forsaken creature! I'll never work for the army again, damn them! Damn their robot! Damn their doomsday plans!" he shouted.

While he was furiously looking for faults in the control panel of the droid, he didn't notice the flicker in the red eyes of the android behind him. First thoughts flowed into its intricate circuits. Slowly the creature moved its hand. The electronic brain of the creature began to speed up and questions formed in its metal head.

"What is all this? What is this small being before me? Why is it moving so quickly? Why is it so loud? Can I make it stop?"

Supervlieg
July 22nd, 2006, 11:07 AM
Michael Motion: Thanks!

Dark Sepiroth: Thanks man! Keep working on it and you'll develop your own style.

Cookiedough: Nice style, the dog is a great addition as well! Reminds me a bit of the jetsons.

Mr-Joe: Yeah, thats Photoshop, CS2.

Gratefull dead: Good that you mention the diode. I was planning to add that to my final piece, and I think it totally fits with the timeframe.

MasonL
July 22nd, 2006, 01:34 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/white_240sx/MasonL_CHOW34_Morganica.jpg

Commissioned for the worlds fair of 1939, Morganica was to represent the pinnacle of the machine age and its nobel intention to revive the economy. Sadly however, the beast in man over shadowed his beautiful dreams, and a world wide war condemned her to obscurity.

dark sepiroth
July 22nd, 2006, 02:12 PM
whooaa there are more and more wips and finals coming in.
well so far I'm not really further. Guess my motivation is lowering haha.
Since i'm not very pleased with my pose.

anyway i'm waiting for shadoman. yeaaah you! haha :p
I wanne see your final man.

Btw is the deadline GM+2 23:59?
or what?

GratefulDread
July 22nd, 2006, 02:22 PM
people were aware of radiation roughly in the 1890's. however nuclear reaction was a THEORY in the about 39' and not devoloped into destructive technology in the early 40's. so still not valid. unless its a bomb.
I personally feel like "Super Genius" is a cop out.
Hell, I'm technically a "super genius" IQ of around 159, who minored in physics and you don't see me traveling through time. Limitations are imposed due to the time frame. as I said everyone uses supergenius to get over the fact that the equipment that would be used for even basic movement would be huge and filled with the circuits and diodes like I posted above.
Sorry to be critical but isn't that why were all here, to get better? Take it with a grain of salt. and think about it instead of immediately dissmissing crits.
what do you want to hear? "OHHHH.....even though your art dosent fit the criteria i set down as a client, it's perfect and I love it and theres nothing wrong with it" Get over yourself. I took the viewpoint of a client when viewing these and didn't see what I came for. we all need a slap on the back every once in a while, but we all need a slap in the head sometimes too.

Supervlieg
July 22nd, 2006, 02:23 PM
Btw is the deadline GM+2 23:59?
or what?

In the brief it says: As long as its sunday anywhere on the planet you're save.

dark sepiroth
July 22nd, 2006, 03:14 PM
LOL the only one who's making such a fuss is you graatefuldread.
Sure crits are cool, and we've already kept it in our minds. we just discuss about it and then you nagging about stuff. it IS a forum and not a class you know. Anyway like I said before. I've kept the crits in my mind for a next time.8)

Alzorath
July 22nd, 2006, 03:35 PM
Gratefuldead - You'd think it'd really depend on if the client was looking for, for aesthetic purposes the choice to make them more streamlined, but give them the environment and characteristics of the 1930s pop culture, is a logical progression (you can actually see a bit of this in the Animatrix - Second Renaissance Part I, in the bar scene, where they had the feel of an era, with the future technology. Obviously that was set in the 'future' though.)

Now if this was for a game or movie set strictly in the 1930s (and meant to be semi-realistic), and an integral part of them was a 'mad genius with an android' - I'd probably then look more towards the old 'gigantic robot' cartoons from back in the B&W era (like Gigantor) - much more clunky and large. Still, as you mentioned, the powerplant would make it impossible to truly make a mobile, and functional, android - even if you made it astronomically large. The simple fact is, it couldn't have been done, therefore it'd be extremely difficult (read: near impossible) to achieve a true 1930s representation of an android without breaking several rules.

Edit: just thought of another example: Wild Wild West (that 'not so good' Will Smith movie several years back) - bend the rules to make it fit the world, even if it woulda been impossible in the technelogical era (advantage of fiction)

Mr-Joe
July 22nd, 2006, 05:00 PM
Thank you Supervlieg, That really is so freekin awesome, I got it on my desktop, I love the look on the robots face with drool and all. Hey, do you mind saying where you got your texture brushes from? I really like that look you have in the background.

Joe.

Supervlieg
July 22nd, 2006, 06:03 PM
Hey Mr-Joe, I used a custom brush I made from a cloud picture. You can dl it here (http://www.bolman.nl/YannisBrushes.abr), along with a selection of other brushes I used. Only for Photoshop CS2 though.

dark sepiroth
July 22nd, 2006, 06:56 PM
I'll check it out too. thanx Mista superfly ^_^

KaWaii
July 22nd, 2006, 07:07 PM
I personally feel like "Super Genius" is a cop out.
Hell, I'm technically a "super genius" IQ of around 159, who minored in physics and you don't see me traveling through time. Limitations are imposed due to the time frame. as I said everyone uses supergenius to get over the fact that the equipment that would be used for even basic movement would be huge and filled with the circuits and diodes like I posted above.
Sorry to be critical but isn't that why were all here, to get better? Take it with a grain of salt. and think about it instead of immediately dissmissing crits.
what do you want to hear? "OHHHH.....even though your art dosent fit the criteria i set down as a client, it's perfect and I love it and theres nothing wrong with it" Get over yourself. I took the viewpoint of a client when viewing these and didn't see what I came for. we all need a slap on the back every once in a while, but we all need a slap in the head sometimes too.

Let me make something clear, GratefulDread.

First, if i had read correctly we all have NOT dismissed your crits, we only stated our own arguments against yours. Explaining why we think differently. The only one getting offended was you. Not did you only ignore our reasoning, but you start threatening with "do you all want to get better?".

It's true that building an android in 1930 is impossible. so we HAVE to find a way to fill the gap. "An ultra genius" is a story I made up to fit the scene. It's part of this theme. You say "Ive an IQ of 159 and you don't see me traveling across time". Well, that's good for you, but have you also heard of an android living at the 1930? To be able to build a android at that time, that person HAS to posses above human knowledge. (according to my side of view) AND suppose YOU can travel across time, I don't think you can build a "thinking" android with your 159 IQ.

And I do feel kinda offended by you. You make it sounds like I'm just looking for an excuse to draw a futuristic android. I don't see anything offending the "android from 1930" idea.

There could be thousands of reasons. Maybe such a person really existed, but remained unknown in our history? (part of my discription)

I have done research about 1930. That's why I took the clothes, other parts with me and build up a story.


EDIT:

sorry if I react too offensively, but I want to let you know, I, just like Dark Sephiroth, also takes your crits with me and I'm grateful you actually give us crits. But I have to tell you it's impossible for everyone to follow up your point of view

NukleoN
July 22nd, 2006, 09:45 PM
people were aware of radiation roughly in the 1890's. however nuclear reaction was a THEORY in the about 39' and not devoloped into destructive technology in the early 40's. so still not valid. unless its a bomb.
I personally feel like "Super Genius" is a cop out.
Hell, I'm technically a "super genius" IQ of around 159, who minored in physics and you don't see me traveling through time. Limitations are imposed due to the time frame. as I said everyone uses supergenius to get over the fact that the equipment that would be used for even basic movement would be huge and filled with the circuits and diodes like I posted above.
Sorry to be critical but isn't that why were all here, to get better? Take it with a grain of salt. and think about it instead of immediately dissmissing crits.
what do you want to hear? "OHHHH.....even though your art dosent fit the criteria i set down as a client, it's perfect and I love it and theres nothing wrong with it" Get over yourself. I took the viewpoint of a client when viewing these and didn't see what I came for. we all need a slap on the back every once in a while, but we all need a slap in the head sometimes too.


Grateful, since you're so into improving others, I'd like to return the favor and submit some crits for you...

You need to harness the full power of your super-genius as determined by whatever web-Flash program you completed and learn how to capitalize appropriate words, improve your spelling and get a grip on your grammar (at least get it up to web standards). 39' is 39 feet, not an abbreviation for 1939. 1939 would be abbreviated as '39 where the apostrophe is in lieu of '19'. A theory is simply an explanation for a body of fact...so a theory being called such is a high-state of peer reviewed acceptance, generally and shouldn't be discounted as mere speculation if they precede a new technology.

I don't know how you measured your 'IQ', but if you're still misspelling common words then I question your observation skills. After all, you should notice when a word is being spelled differently than how you spell it. If you have an ounce of curiosity and critical thinking you'd want to know if you were spelling words correctly, don't you think? This applies moreso if you're slamming people for their lack of observation when it's only your lack of observation which lead you to this conclusion.

Your powers of observation completely missed all of the great 30's reference in many pics posted here, including everything in my scene which could have existed earlier than the 30's. I'd ignore you, but you seem to be addressing everyone here and now you're prattling on about your 'super genius' IQ. I don't mind crits...but yours seemed a bit mean-spirited, and when you follow that with your 'super genius' IQ comment, well, time to take you down a notch.

There's your slap in the head for today.....do you feel better? Good. You're welcome.

Now why don't you submit a concept of your own? :D

ah.heng
July 22nd, 2006, 10:46 PM
i think gratefuldead's comment is quite valid. most of the entries don't look very 1930s.

Alzorath
July 23rd, 2006, 12:36 AM
I somewhat have to question whether some people have researched the 1930s, however I feel like pointing out where 1920-1930s references can be found (because 20s content would be found in the 30s, much like you can find 90s content here in the 2000s - heck you can still find people stuck in the 60s/70s/80s as well)

Migsta - The lab equipment is 'immitation 1930s' lab equipment, ie a common stylization of early turn of the century scientific equipment.

Trevor - That is more 1950s to me (also strangely reminds me of the robot from the Jetsons)

Kawaii's isn't far enough along for me to comment on yet.

Dark Sephiroth - I don't see 1930s here (or even 'turn of the century' - I do feel 'turn of the century' should be acceptable to an extent).

Shadoman - same as Dark Sephiroth's - I don't see 1930s here, just android.

Prophet - This feels more like 1950s again (thanks to the "Leave it to Beaver" - Mother hairdo)

Mine - I studied the 1930s, the hat is a 'flapper' hat from the 1920s, the dress is styled in a similar style to 'party dresses' of the 1930s, the vehicle is loosely modelled after a Cadillac Lasalle from around that era (although I made it a bit more generic in an attempt to make it a bit more ominous - similar vehicles are commonly used as 'mobster cars' in movies).

3dtwo - I don't see the 1930s reference, but android is there.

Fuuryoku - I don't see the 1930s reference, although it could be tied more to those swimming musicals that came out several years later. I can see the tie to the flare of the roaring 20s, however no direct tangible ties to that era. Style is reminiscent of the newer Star Wars as well to me.

Eriboss - Again, don't see the 1930s, however it is an interesting concept, I also do not see the android in the newest piece (seems more like a relief carving than an android at this stage imo)

Laundart - Outfit and hat are styled after the 1930s, vaccuum is more 1950s though, as was mentioned earlier.

Carotello - That style of doll (many made in Europe) were popular at the turn of the century, I feel that is intended as the tie to 1930s, and honestly I'd give it to her given the backstory.

Acorn - No tie to 1930s.

Supervlieg - reminds me more of the old robot 'horror' cartoons, however these aren't from the 1930s, this doesn't remind me of the 1930s either - the design just kicks arse though ;). The newer one does however have more hints of the era in it - still screams 'old horror cartoon' to me though :\.

Bryno - No 1930s reference, however interesting take on the subject - have to give credit for that at least.

Nukleon - Cliche 'housewife' robot - could be anywhere from 1920s to 1950s, feasibly 1930s.

CookieDough - 1930s STYLE, very similar to many turn of the century comedic comic strips ( I can't name any by name...sorry, but I do know there are several early 1900s artists with a similar style to the one displayed there).

CheshireLyon - I don't see the 1930s here in any great detail, however it does match the 'over the top' style of the 1920s that seeped a bit into the 1930s - somewhat emulated today by people who enjoy nostalgic looks.

MasonL - 1920s to be precise, 1920s flow a bit into the 1930s - very 'flapper' look to her.

NukleoN
July 23rd, 2006, 01:18 AM
Yeah you're right, mine is very cliche (to modern eyes). The crazy git who designed her wasn't a supporter a women's suffrage and tacked on a bunch of items he associated with women's roles of the time...but to me it's funny! It's a robot that cleans, I tell ya. I have more coming in the final tho, including a backstory. :)

I think yours is interesting, and I like the composition and colors. The head to me is slightly reminscient of Robocop and the rendering on the head looks a bit like stone. I'd like to see more of the android but she's in a dress. I like the background and the car too..helps sell the time period. I like the colors you're using too.

Thanks for the comments Alz!

seba_boi
July 23rd, 2006, 01:39 AM
I somewhat have to question whether some people have researched the 1930s, however I feel like pointing out where 1920-1930s references can be found (because 20s content would be found in the 30s, much like you can find 90s content here in the 2000s - heck you can still find people stuck in the 60s/70s/80s as well)

Good point!... The '20s and '30s are the time of Art Deco and Modernism styles of design... Actually, a lot of Range Murata's designs circle around these two styles of the era...

CheshireLyon
July 23rd, 2006, 02:02 AM
My final is now up

Alzorath, your crit is right on the money, the design influence is mainly from 20's art deco and architecture, mixed together with the empire-waist and long dresses popularized in the '30s to replace the short hemed flapper dresses of the '20s.

anyway, I wish I had some more time to give some crits out to other people but I need to get some sleep.

acorn
July 23rd, 2006, 03:38 AM
Aye, crits on the dot., but i wanted to finish it. Not going to remove it, that'd be silly, going to plan a little more before hte next chow.

they all still look great!

Quinster
July 23rd, 2006, 04:03 AM
I can tell you what period of time things were from by what the people are wearing and their clothes and so on, but I don't know much about the overall style or much about architecture. Where would one find these references? It appears most artists here didn't find many references either. =p Research is tough!

seba_boi
July 23rd, 2006, 04:24 AM
I can tell you what period of time things were from by what the people are wearing and their clothes and so on, but I don't know much about the overall style or much about architecture. Where would one find these references? It appears most artists here didn't find many references either. =p Research is tough!

Art Deco: http://virtual.parkland.edu/gds/131/lectures/1925-artdeco.html

Modern: http://virtual.parkland.edu/gds/131/lectures/1915-modern.html

Hope the link works...

KaWaii
July 23rd, 2006, 04:58 AM
Nice stuff hey Sega boi ^^, thx !

I think that'll help us a lot !

seba_boi
July 23rd, 2006, 05:01 AM
Don't miss the caption (small arrow on the left) on each picture... I missed that the first time round...

GratefulDread
July 23rd, 2006, 05:27 AM
When its midnite or later I am bound to misspell words just like anyone else, plus my typing skills are shit. I'm sure how stoned i am dosen't help either. If I bothered to re-read it I'd catch the misspellings. Just because I understand and have the ability to use the english language to its fullest dosent mean I'm not lazy, just like everyone else. I am the perfect example of wasted genius.
I'm not worked up at all I just like playing devil's advocate. However, you fully emphasize my point NUKLEON by deviating from the defense of a design to attacking my grammar and spelling, which has nothing to do with nothing.
Like I said, I was merely looking for someone to tackle those challenges in design, and stir up a little shit.
Everyone's peices are nice. But I am entitled to my opinions. As one of you stated this is a forum not a classroom. What I have to say is merely opinion, not gospel. And Nukeleon before you go grab your dictionary and thesaurus. Eye Spel chucked, and wurked oot the gramar on theis 1. just for you.

KaWaii
July 23rd, 2006, 05:35 AM
K, whatever guys, let's just peace out ^^

We'll get 5 votes penalty if it's not from 1930. So just take GratefulDread's crits with you. It's still your own choice though.

EDIT:

I'm not saying I agree with Grateful, but try to see him as part of the audience. Oblio will decide if your work is 1930 or not in the end. (correct me if I'm wrong)

NukleoN
July 23rd, 2006, 05:59 AM
Like I said, I was merely looking for someone to tackle those challenges in design, and stir up a little shit

No worries..just giving you a little shit yourself. Nothing like a little criticism to keep us grounded in reality, right? I don't really take well to being told I am not tackling the challenges tho, coz I most certainly am. Your lack of observation in this regard is what prompted my somewhat 'thorough' response to you.

I do appreciate the crits though...but try to pay a little closer attention to the entries before ya dismiss all but one as missing the mark...your crits came of as, *ahem* 'unresearched'...oh the irony, huh?

The 'I am a super-genius' comment leaves you wide open for criticism as well. Being a natural skeptic, the minute someone calls themselves a 'super genius' I'm looking for evidence to the contrary. What happened to just settling for 'genius', anyway? Heh. Hell I don't even think there *is* a super-genius category...a genius isn't something you attain till you're around 200 IQ or something. Then again, being smart isn't just about doing well on IQ tests, ya know.

Anyhoo...enough o' that...back to painting! :D

dark sepiroth
July 23rd, 2006, 06:51 AM
yeah if oblio kicks half of the people out then so be it.
I can onnly say that I have parts that are 30's and even before it. so it would also be used in the 30's but maybe the complete robot is not looking quite 30's.

Well I'll just stick with the fact that there was a genius who was looking beyond everything others had accomplished. He used normal parts but also parts that was customed by a hordes of blacksmiths.
Ok I justified my work. peace

dark sepiroth
July 23rd, 2006, 07:00 AM
true. and IQ test is globally. people are in some things very good and in some things not. there should be specified IQ tests.

Evil_Sloth
July 23rd, 2006, 07:29 AM
mine.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1677/robotob3.jpg

Migsta
July 23rd, 2006, 08:02 AM
At the end of the day , who really cares whether you're a research genius or you just play one on Forums,
just draw and have fun doin it.

Next topic!?

GriNGo
July 23rd, 2006, 12:31 PM
migsta, that excuse is kind of invalid in this activity at least (from my point of view of course). From what I have seen & I'm very grateful to Oblio for that is that he's trying to be as professional as possible in the organization of this event, so newcomers & students or whoever else wants to particpate, can have a minor glimpse about how a client will treat you and your work. & research isn't boring! I find it very inspiring to go and look at stuff that otherwise wouldn't come to my mind if he had not mentioned! Good Research can be as fun & inspiring as making your own creation, trust me! So really, if Oblio doesn't choose some art, I'll hope it will teach a lesson to those who think research sucks. About grateful dead's comments, I can't help but agree that some don't look very 30's, but I also want to say that the 30's wasn't just a transistor with a light bulb on it, the 30's was the Great Depression, Art Deco (illustration, art & architecture), the 30's was fashion, the 30's was futurism, vorticism... it was a lot! Just because the topic said "robots" does not mean that the vision has to be narrowed down to that particular area.

later!

GRiNGoLoCo

arttorney
July 23rd, 2006, 02:03 PM
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/arttorney/arttorney-morganica.jpg
Of course I had known the bakelite surface of it would be black. Ironically, until I clothed the mechanism out of a strange kind of modesty, the naked truth of what I had done had not occurred to me. What else had I done other than to reintroduce the scourge of slavery to the world? I was overcome with a rage of self loathing and fled the room. (Final)

Main Loop
July 23rd, 2006, 02:37 PM
At the end of the day , who really cares whether you're a research genius or you just play one on Forums,
just draw and have fun doin it.

Next topic!?

If you're just doing this for fun, then no one will care but yourself..
however, if you're trying to make portfolio pieces out of these (and i believe a lot of people can make these into portfolio pieces) and want to be able to show that you have a range of influences that you can put together to make something unique, no matter the project, then i think you should care....

trevor
July 23rd, 2006, 03:12 PM
wow you guys are gettin rough in here
be nice. why would anyone just come in here and pretty much just say everyones idea is wrong?
if there are crits to be made they dont need to be done atop a high horse
and cmon guys none of you were around in the '30s
dont act like your internet has better reference material than ours
none of us should have to defend our artwork. especially not here
this is for fun, learning and practice
dont ruin it by getting mean

dark sepiroth
July 23rd, 2006, 04:33 PM
very nice work migsta.
I love your piece man.

NukleoN
July 23rd, 2006, 04:50 PM
To be honest...I just want to see cool artwork...if the theme motivates someone to create a finished piece of work, who cares if he/she veers off the theme a little.

Good job on the final, Migsta. Great lighting and I like the rendering style. The Jacob's Ladder is a nice touch. ;)

Evil Sloth...fun work! Very cool..love the flourishes heh.

dark sepiroth
July 23rd, 2006, 05:06 PM
I kind of agree with ya nukleon but on the other hand it IS a theme based art battle.

Btw I do love researching. I do it all the time. for my piece I did use rasters and chains for the wrists and stuff also there is a fuel burning motor in it. the heat will go though the breast rasters and the smoke is bein filtered out on the sides. and I have round arms and leggs. so??? if people can make chains
in 1890 then they surely can make round metal/steel arms.

In 1700 we already had round metals with even a hole in it. For instance old guns. so I justified that. and well coloring is just sense of what you want to
do with your piece. I can make things more futuristic. but if they had cars with car paint then they could also use that for my robot.
Also onmy head are also rough fabricated metal parts on and around it. So In my opinion this robot could be made in 1930.

KaWaii
July 23rd, 2006, 05:45 PM
Done, I posted my FINAL at my first post.

And everyone don't worry about it too much, everyone did their research (or not) about the subject, everyone had crits received (or not). Just let it be and enjoy the art.

In 1930, did anyone actually did research about the old China were I'm coming from? How will an android there look like? What I'm trying to say is, the world is bigger than you guys think. You say "round metal" doesn't excist? Where you bases your facts on? Google? Do you know what materials there were in every street of China? "That android is not from 1930!" Did you see any android in 1930? Does a android from 1930 really HAS TO BE build on the existing materials in that time? (like radio?)

Because we all think differently, we have alot of different looking androids. When you give crits, plz only give crits. NOT abusig with "THATS not from 1930". It's easier for someone to accept.

As for 1930, just see it as a guidance like I do -_-.
Oblio will see it if you really putted some work in researching. And if not, who cares LOL ! Just try better next time XD

Eriboss
July 23rd, 2006, 06:55 PM
wow, its like 11.59pm here in the uk :o hehe

just finished up mine, back on the first page somewhere,

Cheers
Eri

Art2
July 23rd, 2006, 07:34 PM
Some very unusual and funny androids, haha, good job guys.

Started mine yesterday, worked on it some more today, but I didn't have the juice to finish in time. Damn heatwave...
Anyway, I'll finish it sometime tomorrow night for my own pleasure.
Yeah, I even made up a story...

fuuryoku
July 23rd, 2006, 08:00 PM
updated with my final in my original post

-Fuu

Trashy
July 23rd, 2006, 08:18 PM
Great entries everyone! I had to enter this one.

Don't think I'm going to add much to this. This I think is going to be my final.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/TrashCaretaker/TRASHY_CHOW34_1930s-robot.jpg

After tearing apart his old busted 1930's Philco refrigerator, Doctor Henry Jabbas finally found a perfect torso for his robot. It was at last alive!

GratefulDread
July 23rd, 2006, 10:33 PM
ha, ha. How much fun. Glad I got some motors pumpin'. Good luck to everyone. peace boys (and girls)

Migsta
July 23rd, 2006, 11:54 PM
I really like alot of the work done here. Maybe, and dont get me wrong I'm totally for research and referencing, if this forum was more strict, these pieces would not have had so much character. Just a thought.

Thanks for the comments!

Trevor - Awesome style, crazy design but i like it!!

Nukleon - I really like the fun image you created! Cool style.

Supervlieg - Your android is great! I laugh every time i look at it!! (that's a good thing) Great loose style too!

Cookie Dough - Awesome character, cool line work on the character.

Alot of cool stuff here!!!

NukleoN
July 24th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Thanks Migsta!

Bahaha...nice one Trashy...love the handle on the chest..looks like an old fridge door. The rest looks like rough beaten metal. Cool. ;)

GriNGo
July 24th, 2006, 12:55 AM
just in time!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/GriNGoLoCO/conceptart/gringoloco_chow34_morganica.jpg

Golden as heavean, Morganica could not tolerate becoming the mad scientist's maiden. She deserved more, she deserved the real world, not just being his Roman ages fantasy. "Liberate tu te me ex inferis" she remembered herself. "Save yourself from Hell". So she ran.

morbidhumor
July 24th, 2006, 01:56 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~bcrart/morbidhumorchow34.jpg
He couldn't believe his eyes. Ten years he had toiled to create his masterpiece. Revenge would soon be his! But first he needed more...

Something quick and fun. Thanks for the interesting topic.

Main Loop
July 24th, 2006, 02:48 AM
http://www.remtek.net/0/mainloop/default/images/19/347.jpg

hey here's my entry... I went for a lot of art deco, some erte, and Chiparus sculptures.. wanted to get that bronze look

Supervlieg
July 24th, 2006, 02:50 AM
Great entries everyone. A bit of a shame that the wips get lost when everyone replaces them with the finals.

On the 1930's issue, the brief didnt state any styleguide. It didnt say your piece had to be or include art deco or futurism. Nor did it say wether it would have to be realisitic or cartoony. Just 1930. I think because of that this chow was open to everyone's personal take on the 1930's. And I think everyone succeeded in their own way. Be it hawaiian shaman robots or refrigirator droids.

Migsta: Thanks! Great final piece man. I like your rendering style. I would say her left leg (her left, not our left) looks a bit weird perspective wise. I think it should stick out a bit more. Also the lack of perspective on the lamp on the desk looks a bit weird, but maybe this was done on purpose?

Kawaii: Nice final piece, though you could use a bit more variation in your colors, try incorporating a bit more shadows to give the various parts a bit more depth. I think if you take this one a bit further, the picture might improve.

NukleoN: Great final, the colors work really well. I like the warm look it brings to the whole picture. I didnt notice the cat before, but thats an excellent detail!

Edit:
Main Loop: Nice one, I especially like the dancing pose. Of all entries this on is probably closest to a character sheet ;) The bronze works quite well, but with a little more highlights you could make it shine a bit more.

dark sepiroth
July 24th, 2006, 04:16 AM
Hey migsta. could u tell me what kind of brush u used for your rendering?
and also globally how u render your pictures? since I love it alllot.
ya don't have to tell it here. maybe personally or ya don't have to tell it at all m8:) your call

main loop: Love the coloring u used there and also the syle

morbidhumor: Also love the high density color. the right hand looks a little bit odd to me but further it looks nice.

Grincoloco: Nice and strange style u use there man. Somehow I dig that style of yours.

Trashy: pretty funny your refridgerater bot. it is right? maybe a little bit more color variation would give your bot a greater touch.

evilsloth: cool man. Also dig the heat engine in the heart of your robot.
I have it to but a bit more sophisticated. yours give a great typical old idea of an old furnace.

Attorney: U defintly used things/cloth that is also used in the 30's.
Only you have a bit of a perspective issue.

KaWaii
July 24th, 2006, 07:00 AM
erhm? what now?

Noodle time? :D

Supervlieg
July 24th, 2006, 07:13 AM
no, doodle time.

shadoman
July 24th, 2006, 07:32 AM
Updated page 1.

dark sepiroth
July 24th, 2006, 07:58 AM
haha nice to see your sketch filled in Shadoman.
I really dig the MJ hat XD.

Is it gonna be the new mafia prototype? ^_^

AdamAnt
July 24th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Here's my effort after not drawing for a very long time. I apologise if the greyscale is wiggedy whack but I did this on an LCD.

cheers.

http://web.aanet.com.au/adamant/images/Adamant_CHOW34_Morganica.jpg

Artifex33
July 24th, 2006, 02:33 PM
The golden sheen of her skin became shinier the more I handled her. The friction from my hands had, over the past several months, slowly polished out the flaws in the metal. Morganica, my experiment; my replacement for the child my estranged wife and I would never have. Perhaps if I'd payed her as much attention...

Put the childlike mechanism down. I'd taken to cradling it in my sleep, like a child's affectation, after the first month. It was always there the next morning. Refill the absinthe glass. Drain it. The small steps are necessary since she left. Just concentrate on what's in front of you, and keep sucking on the greenish bottle. The speakeasy barman swore it was the thing for the job.

I can't tell if I'd given Morganica two eyes dissimilar size, or if the absinthe had started working halfway through the second bottle. I'd tried to measure them a couple of times, but the jaws of the calipers seemed to open and close jocularly of their own accord.

Forget the glass. Can't find it anyway; just get the bottle and stumble off to the bed. Oh, wait, she took the bed with her. Figures. The baby's room--would have been the baby's room--has a small bed in it. That'll do. Make my way through the stale air and mustiness to the bed, and try to drain the last half of the absinthe. I must have dropped it somewhere on the way here. Scrunching up on the bed brings sleep...

I wake to a noise I can't remember. Oh God, my fucking head! I try to pry open my eyes against the weight of the light coming from the lamp in the corner. Didn't remember turning that on. She must have come in to get some of her stuff, and couldn't wake me, so she left the light on. Probably left a note somewhere. Go look.

Blocking the doorway to the hall is a diminuitive golden child, closely clutching a stuffed toy. Morganica? The absinthe must have had something in it I hadn't bargained for. What...?

She clanks a step closer to me, round, red-lensed eyes brilliant with the reflection of the lamp; almost teary. She clutches her long-haired toy closer to her, rubbing her cheek against it affectionately. As she does so, the toy turns in her arms, the long hair falls back, and rather than the button-eyes of a teddy bear, my wife's slack-lidded green irises stare back at me from her severed head, underneath long, red hair matted with her blood.

http://www.wesleyrast.com/img/art/morganica2.jpg

dark sepiroth
July 24th, 2006, 03:13 PM
LOL nice story dude ^^

carotello
July 24th, 2006, 04:13 PM
sheesh...almost sounds like an Edgar Allan Poe story. Awesome, I love it.
Suggestions, I am not sure if you are done with it or still working, but since it's such a good backstory, I think you should bring that image to the next level.
The head of your android is beautifully rendered, I love the little etchings on its head, nice. However, the rest needs some love, dude. I realize that the head should be the center of attention, but there is far too big a quality gap between the rendering of that and the rest of the body and the head it's so lovingly holding, which is looking flat.
Great concept, judging from the way you rendered the head, I am sure you won't have any problems finishing the rest to a similar level.

Artifex33
July 24th, 2006, 04:17 PM
Yep, certainly heavily influenced by Poe or Lovecraft.

trevor
July 24th, 2006, 04:19 PM
wow
mainloop
im pretty sure youve got my vote
my 1 vote
i dislike multivote

nathonicus
July 24th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Um, is this thread still open? I thought it was due on Sunday. Maybe I'll get a chance to Ink this...

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7381/morrganawebjr0.jpg

Art2
July 24th, 2006, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I'm like a day late... sorry, but I thought I show you guys my take on the topic, since I've already started :}

http://www.marlonart.nl/web/Art2_CHOW34_Morganica.jpg

Morganica with prototype jetengine, produced by Heinkel.

Story:
In 1934 the American scientist Jacob Morgan immigrated to Nazi Germany, because he felt sympathy with the Nazi ideology. In Germany he started to work for the secret department of Military Science. Morgan's field of expertise was Robotics and Artificial Intelligence. In 1936 he developed the first prototype of a machine called "Die Morganika", named after himself.
Adolf Hitler himself gave Morgan free reign over the project. Morgan's goal was to produce the perfect soldier. In 1937 the testing was finished and the first operational "Morganika" was a fact. It was immediately deployed to take part in the Spanish Civil War, where it secretly fought along side the Spanish Facists.
In 1938 Morgan's labolatory was destroyed by the British Secret Service. All documentation was said to be consumed by the fire. Morgan got assasinated a day after the attack. The British furiously searched for the Morganica and late 1939 they found it hidden near a military airfield. It was destroyed by the famous British agent, nr12, after a memorable fight.

Main Loop
July 24th, 2006, 05:42 PM
trevor: :) and i dont usually multivote either....

trevor
July 24th, 2006, 06:19 PM
i think you and i may have had similar inspiration
erte perhaps?
even though mine wont be in the poll i do plan to finish the
scene i started so if anyone is curious just check out my sb
ina week or so
i may do a full step by step
if anyone is curious

dark sepiroth
July 24th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I'm still don't know whom to vote for.
darrrrnn you trevor XD If you'd finished your piece then I think I would vote for you man.

GriNGo
July 24th, 2006, 07:07 PM
yeah trevor! thanks for the comments dark sepiroth! really appreciated. In my case I really liked migsta's piece... if Art2 had submitted earlier, it would have caught one of my votes too. Dark Sepiroth, your piece is cool, but I think he's rather TOO stiff for my tastes. Anyway androids must be stiff right? I like the lighting you gave him. The fierce look to his face also helps. Carotellos piece is good too, in particular, his concept! Just loved it. Nuckleon's piece is another great, just love all the fluffy details he gave him, and his concept is different from the others, at least visually.. the childrens book illustration style is just awesome (for me anyways!)

later!
GRiNGoLoCo

Artifex33
July 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Migsta: Great render!

Main Loop: Love the Arabesque/Flapper take.

arttorney
July 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Dark Sepiroth said: "U defintly used things/cloth that is also used in the 30's.
Only you have a bit of a perspective issue."

Thanks for the crit. Figures are my greatest challenge. Research, however, can be fun. The dress was one Mina wore in the 1930 "Dracula" by Universal (except I added some pockets to make it more like a servant dress). I added the apron the fainting nurse's aide wore in the same movie (to fit in better with my description).

Art2
July 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM
... if Art2 had submitted earlier, it would have caught one of my votes too.

It's the thought that counts, thanks Gringo :yayca:
Nukleon's concept is one of my favs too, Supervlieg, Migsta and Main Loop... yay for multi voting!

dark sepiroth
July 24th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Guys I hope I see you all in the next round. it's too cool to be with yall ^_^

Hi arttorney. Well all I can add is "take the things that you see that are wrong, with you into the next art battle ^_^".
Atleast this is what I'm doing. I know what my problems are in this piece so next time I'm gonna pay special attention to what I did wrong this time.

GratefulDread
July 24th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Artifex33the only problem I find is....have you ever had absinthe? I have and I tried drinking it from the bottle. I dont think it's possible. I've never spit 100$ a bottle liquor on the ground before then. I thought I would die, even worse than Everclear. I swallowed half a bottle of that. I only got about one swallow of the absinthe down. You for sure need the sugar and water. otherwise get a bucket. great work man.

Artifex33
July 24th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Artifex33the only problem I find is....have you ever had absinthe? I have and I tried drinking it from the bottle. I dont think it's possible. I've never spit 100$ a bottle liquor on the ground before then. I thought I would die, even worse than Everclear. I swallowed half a bottle of that. I only got about one swallow of the absinthe down. You for sure need the sugar and water. otherwise get a bucket. great work man.

Yeah, actually a friend of mine had a bottle imported on the sly from Europe somewhere. That evil, greenish goo just begged to be drunk straight, so I did. That was the only glass of that I ventured to drink. Pine Sol, your girl's favorite apple scented hand-lotion, and uncle Jim Bob's home-stilled white lighting all mixed up is about as close to describing the flavor as I can get. I don't remember it being particularly strong, but then again, I frequently go after the single-malt scotch with no ice.

The guy who bought it had us do some three step traditional mix of the drink after that, the particulars of which I don't quite remember, which may speak to the potency of the concotion.

Since then, I don't drink anymore, of course, I don't drink any less, either. :)

GratefulDread
July 24th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Yeckch!!!!!!!!

Migsta
July 25th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Hey Dark Sepiroth ...I'm still using Photoshop 5.5(old school, but i like it)and the brush I use is the standard round airbrush(a variety of sizes) with a soft edge. I just need to bring CS2 home then I can get into using some sweet brushes for this, I use it at work.

Thanks for the comment!

GriNGo
July 25th, 2006, 12:39 AM
absinthe kicks ass! it's a delicious liquor...

trevor
July 25th, 2006, 01:20 AM
um ....wheres the poll?
and um.....the...new topic?
i know i know
im just being impatient
hope your ok oblio

carotello
July 25th, 2006, 02:44 AM
Hehehe, you impatient one.
You know, after seeing how long red rook takes to post polls for EOWs, I don't really mind Oblio's little slips so much.
I imagine the man has to work, as we do all.

GratefulDread
July 25th, 2006, 02:54 AM
um ....wheres the poll?
and um.....the...new topic?
i know i know
im just being impatient
hope your ok oblio
umm yeah...im getting impatient myself, I was hopin to get started on my only day off. hope ur well. OB

Oblio
July 25th, 2006, 04:42 AM
i'm on it now.
such a difficult task... i'm very low on time and i find it so hard to decide what goes up and what not.
i feel lik ejust taking all th eentries and see about my work.
sory for delay - in 5 days changed 4 hotel rooms, 3 cities, one apartment, one car, 2 countries.. twice... , took a man into a hospital, been to 3 parties, lots of meetings, and took 2 offroad trips.
Slept... few hours - lots of red-bulls.
I would have done this yesterday as ussual but the CA was down when i had the time for it.

Now... deciding is SO hard... i feel lik elookng at the entries th ewhole day - but i don;t have the time... ,my appologies if i screw up.

NukleoN
July 25th, 2006, 05:07 AM
Wow Oblio....glad you're ok...Red Bull is good stuff for times like these. :D

Art2
July 25th, 2006, 05:09 AM
don't appologize Oblio, just post a new topic and the campers are happy :)
3 parties is brutal...