the face house. :)

[oma]

Hi, iam new. I am a 18 year old man linving in the Netherlands. (sorry for the bad englisch)

I draw as long as i can remember, but stoped for a while. To bad!
But i started like a year a go again. It's realy sets my mind free.
I still go to school, now in my last year. After my last year i want go to the art academy.

So all helpfull criticism will help my unfolding to become a good artist.

First i gonna let you see some drawings.

a sketch with pen
http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje031.jpg

a sketch off a man with charcoal in 10 min.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje032.jpg
some sketches with pen

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje033.jpg

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje034.jpg

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje035.jpg

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje037.jpg

study off proportions. my brother was sleeping :). fast sketches.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje038.jpg

Edit : try to get a desent tumbnail! ... hmmm, will resice the pics tonight!

[oma]

My first drawing @ the computer. will update later today some aquarelles

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6034&stc=1&d=1152876112

[oma]

here is another update, with some sketches i made the last week. and some aquarells from a while ago. And a corel paint tryout :)

Plz comment.

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6088&stc=1&d=1152895178
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6089&stc=1&d=1152895178
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6091&stc=1&d=1152895178

some aquarells from live

http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6086&stc=1&d=1152895178
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6087&stc=1&d=1152895178
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6090&stc=1&d=1152895178

[oma]

lol ----> i hate scanning. alway's the wrong size with scanning. trying to make foto's next time.

[ivy'sgrandkid]

these are pretty good oma keep em coming some of em are a tad too big for my screen see if u can resize em but imlooking forward to seeing more

[oma]

how do you resize it ?

[ivy'sgrandkid]

do you have photoshop? if not and ur using photobucket or one of those the option is there under edit to resize em

[verao]

the flowers are great man. U could also use paint to cut the filesize, pretty easy to use also. blijf posten

[Chiko]

the watercolors are nice. I would try and draw alot more to get proportions of people and faces down. But you're doing great!

[oma]

Hi, thanks for your comments. It keeps my motivation up high.
I know i realy need to draw better proportions. Never did a study of proportions. And its now paying the toll. --> like learning it anyway. :). But thats okay.
Got hollyday's now. Enough spare time.

But some uploads now.

Two sketches from life. --> my face. At one i look like a alian. And realy iam not a alian. (i hope :P)

And a crazy creature. And some proportion study. Please keep leaving messages. To help and inspire me. (This is the 600x800? --> corel painter)

alian me
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6368&stc=1&d=1153006562
sketched a lot faster as the first
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6369&stc=1&d=1153006562
creature
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6371&stc=1&d=1153006562
study
http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6371&stc=1&d=1153006562

[oma]

Just made this one. was just awake :). took me like 40 mins. I think.
Realy hate the creapy scan. Remember to myself --> buy a camera

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje049.jpg

[oma]

a new face in a other position. Got neck cramps from this position. From live.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje050.jpg

[Jens]

hey grandmother :P

watch the lenght of the nose when you're drawing, you are enlongating it a lot. Just general proportions, eyes too big, mouth not wide enough. Hand studies are nice! Keep it up

[oma]

Hehe, Jens :P. --> Grandmother.

Yeah i know i must draw better proportions. But your right. I like the hands :D.
It's good criticism. Will think about it in my nexst face study.

[Jens]

yes next time you draw a portrait you have to think, ow yea last time i drew my nose too long, let me check if i did that this time.. measure measure... ow yea let me me put that a little higher.. now what else did i do wrong.. etc :)

[oma]

uhu, but iam just started like a year ago again. Got a little break. like 8 years :).
In my child years i draw a lot. And just what you are saying.

thinking about the mistakes from last time help me alot.

[oma]

trying to make every day a new face of myself. looking for wrong things. and good things. trying to get better line's and hoping for improvement.

So here's a new one.

don't think the scans are good. They look strange at my pc. (looking for a camera)
http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje051.jpg

[Shylone_Breath]

good watercolor studies! i like your pencil studies too, it's accuraccy , i find! your last Sp seems good, some proportion problem about the space between eyes , and height of your mouth , i think . anyway your are in the right way !

[oma]

Shylone Breath thanks for the comment, appreciate it.

Sow here a new 'my face' sketch. took me about a hour i think.
Trying a new look. like in al new sketches.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje053.jpg

[demented]

Wasup oma

muchothanx for the comments in me book.

self portraits are looking good - need to work sharper though. Mass conception is very important in order to give the face weight and dimension. Often it is useful to start in terms of cubes, and not merely mapping out the edges.

Also don't trust your mind. It's lying to you, trust your eyes. Don't think about what you see, just look and then redraw. Only after you have drawn must you think, in order to learn.

good portraits, keep grinding the lead man
ciao

- d.

[oma]

Demented same. > thanx fot the comment.

But not thinking is hard for me. But gonna try only by drawing.

Just did a hand study. and a skelaton study. but that Iam not gonna post here.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/kleineboekje056.jpg

[oma]

Just made my first 'real' thing with painter.

It took me like a hour. but i think it's pretty good. for messing with painter 3 days now.

Hope you like it. It's painted after a little statue that was standing beside my monitor.

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/standbeeldje.jpg

[oma]

It was hot here in the Netherlands. 36 degrees. Pff. went to the swimming pool but i wanted to draw. so I went home. Got my pensils and made again a SP.

Here is the result. took me about 50 min. Made it with a hb pensil.

[Gloominati]

some pretty nice stuff in here, the SPs are gettin better but there is one mistake you seem to do almost every time: too much face, lol:
watch the proportions really well, look closesly at your reference and mark where the nose, lips, eyes are supposed to be. This is the most important step because if the proportions are screwed, nothing can make the portrait look good anymore.
I think that this is the first step that you have to manage, after that there is much more to come, so don't worry that you might get bored with selfportraits someday, there is a ton to learn out of them!

Keep at it!

[oma]

made me a new statue and SP.

So here they are.

[Ferg]

nice studies, and those face studies in the mirror are gettin good too. Still my favorite way to practice facial anatomy (still pretty noobish at it myself). I suggest trying to draw longer lines and varying the weight, instead of having lots of short lines.

[oma]

Totally dislike this one. but gonna post it anyway. Need some criticism.

But gonna try again. don't know in what possition. but he. It's all a learning prosses.

[oma]

Hmm, a abstract oil statue. from life.

[JERI]

I think that water color arm is the best and my favourite.

For your faces, I reckon you ought to be more consistent with your proportions at the moment. In particular, I feel the eyes tend to be a bit high up the face and often too close together (ideally, the iris align at the middle of the face, the distance between the eyes should be one eye long). Also, as was mentioned, the nose can be shorter, and the mouth (when relaxed) is usually as wide as the two irises.

I'd also like to point out that I think you're doing a good job with the hatching/shading of the face.

[demented]

Returning the favour you left in my sb.

Looking good oma, seeing real improvement nya. When doing sculptures it's useful to think more about your dark and light than usually. Determine which side will be darker and remember nothing on the dark side is ever as light as on the light side, and nothing on the light side is ever as dark as something on the dark side.

Good job though - great textures yo're created. Keep it up!
ciao

- d.

[oma]

Jeri --> thanks for the comment, was realy usefull. Realy have to learn the right proportion.

Demented --> Thanks for the great tip for the sculptures. Realy didn't thought about that. Must keep that in mind.

Here is a new SP. I think my nose still is a little to long. but, i think my lips and eye's are pretty good, maybe a little flat, but that something to work on. maybe my head is a little to wide. but. will keep that in mind for the next time. hope you will enjoy this one.

[oma]

have some prob's with shading the stuff.

C&C are welcome.

[Ahim]

nice stuff dude

[katsgod]

I see alot of improvement in your work. The only thing that stands out that I would say to work on is the eyeballs. Don't make them so much a circle...remember...most people, their top eyelid covers the very top of the eyeball making it more of a 3/4 of a circle.
Don't take this as I am talking down to you....I hate jerks that do that to me because they think they are gods gift to art. The way I see it...if the artist is happy with his work and the style of the work, then thats the way it should be.

[JERI]

Jeri --> thanks for the comment, was realy usefull. Realy have to learn the right proportion.

No problem, I think you could get a handful of helpful images if you google-search "face proportions".

[oma]

migueslo, katsgod and jeri thanks for the comments.

it realy keeps my motivation up. I googled some face proportions. and worked on the eyeballs. But iam still not happy with my work. i can be better. much better. but just need a lot of practise and hopefully i will be happy with my work in the future.

So here's a new SP.

If i look to it, the lips are a little bit to high, my face is to small, it has to be a little bit higher. and the shading can be better. but. thats for the next try. :P

[oma]

i was not happy by my other one, so made me a new one today. it's a little bit better. but not good enough.

enjoy.

[inkerton]

Nice work, I think you're showing some real improvement on your self portraits. My advice would be to try keeping your proportions more consistent, doing some studies on the measurements of the face would probably be helpful. The expressions and lighting are looking really good though, keep posting.

[voraz]

Hi, you are showing good improvement here. You've got to keep working on it. Your shading seems to be getting better.
I think that you should start paying more atention to hair in your portraits, they would gain a lot from this.
Cheers
Fil

[oma]

plate --> Thnxz for the comment. jup i know i have to study the proportion more. but it's good you'll remember me on it.

Voraz --> on the last one (the one below) did i spend more time on my hair. and proportions. also thnxz for your comment.

Just woke up. and start drawing. :P it's so much fun.

New SP.

[demented]

Sup oma

Mentler has left you some great advice in his office - can't really improve on what he has told you there.

Keep up the good work mate.
ciao

- d.

[Cigaro]

take a pencil, look in the mirror and do some basic proportions already
make a simple grid with delimitations, just as you would do on a game in which you have to unite a bunch of points with lines to obtain an image in the end, do that based on the measurements you did with your pencil, holding your hand straight forward, unbent
seriously, i see potential but there's a lot of fluctuations and no proprtion is the same iin any drawing compared to another...and i dont think your head has proportion changes now does it:P
its gonna be a lot easier afterwards...you're thinking its easier this way just because u got used to it but the thing is its actually harder than doing it correctly:P

as for the shading, get some casts of the human face, preferably plaster casts because its the hardest medium that shows the reflections of the light and shadows the best way
observe hard and do a lot of studies with every shadow u see, no matter what size...be sure to respect the tonal values and start doing a base colour, a soft grey and based on that grey do the rest of the shades
and be sure to observe how the light reflects on the shaded areas too

[Sirithduriel]

Wow, you're really making progress. From the first to the last selfportrait is a lot of progress visible, you're clearly getting the hang of it. Now just hang on ;)

En leuk om meer Nederlanders hier te zien ;)

[oma]

Sirithduriel - > Uhu altijd leuk om hier Nederlanders te zien. succes met je studie. En bedankt voor je commentaar, altijd leuk om te horen. (i said, good luck with er study, and thanxz for the comment.)

Cigaro -> i know. but it's hard to change a habbit. but i gonna try. And iam still looking for a skull. maybe i gonna go to a art museum and draw some of the greek statue's. that totally rocks.

d- -> uhu. mentler advice was realy usefull. thanxz for the kind words.

thanxz for the c&c. hope you will see some progress.

[Cigaro]

try to change it(the habbit)...you'll be a lot more precise
i dont recommend studying statues at a museum, as you need a lot of time to observe the whole shadow range and i guarantee you wont see evcery subtle thing
i suggest asking your drawing teacher to borrow u a cast ( he must have one) and you'll be able to do your studies at home, more comfortably and with a more reliable light source(which you can chose as u wish;))

as for your latest, again, some issues with proportions(the nose for example)
your lines seem more broken rather than flowing, and some parts suffer from that(ex. the eyes)
one of the basic anatomy principles is to think in curves;)..so use more curved, relaxed lines
shading: imo you only did the first step...you need more guts...come on, shade the whole face with a soft grey and then, compared to it, do the rest of the shading..even the subtle stuff...if u use that grey base, you'll avoid unwanted contrast and overexposure as yours turned out
crosshatching loks like it doesnt have any cosistency and looks a bit too rugged
try to make it more soft and unperceptable, if that is your aim, or with bold strokes, which arent placed randomly, but in a pattern(i hope you can understand:))
usually the 2 lines connecting the upper lip with the nose get closer to the base of the nose, they dont remain parallel;)
overall its a progress, but you need to get rid of some habbits that will bring u down in the future:)

[oma]

and racoon, uhu. i know. but iam trying to kill that habbit. gonna watch in my brains and i will kill that habbit. it's a slow prosses, he is a hard one ;).


made me a new one. a new try --> a new angel.

[oma]

made me a new one, with extreem darkness, but i don't look dark :P. you have to think the grey collour is black> enjoy. hope the proportions are a little bit okay.

my face is a super little bit turned so the left eye is a little bit smaller just like the lips and nose wings :P

[demented]

Yo

thanx for the props in my sb mate. These last ones are looking muuuuch better!! Lot more attention to structure! When rendering the hair, don't try to render every single hair or draw line as you have here, rather block it out and start creating a texture within that - don't think that makes sense... go check out the pros on this forum to see how it's done.

I'd also suggest not just doing selfportraits - try drawing other people too, and post some face studies!

good improvement mate,
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

thxz d-! will try some foto ref study's.

I totally fucked this one up. but hey, i can learn from this.

I look like a fat monkey. but it will give you all a good laugh. hf with it.

[oma]

did some face studie's and a other sp.

Hope you like it, need some C&C. havent find a nice foto to practise with.

[demented]

More improvement here! Lines are looking better, more structural, better sense of light and shadow! Go take a look at the faces in Mentler's and zhuzhu's sketchbook, analyze them and look at what makes them good - you can even copy them. You can learn a lot from just staring at them! Keep it up - you are improving really fast.

ciao!

- d.

[oma]

thanks d-, you are allway's helping me. i really appreciate that. and i can learn a lot from you. it also motivates me. BIG THANKS.

and mentler is realy The MAN.. that drawing style is just fabileus.

but here's o monster i created from mind :).

[oma]

oke, here is a new one. just did more focus on the lines.

it don't look exact like me, but that wasn't my first intension. Mostly the shading what is making that difference, the construction looks like me.

So here it is. hope you like it.

[oma]

today i worked with some 2b and 7b pencils, hoop you like it.

c&c are alway's welcome.

[demented]

wow oma awesome progress - using some of the softer graphites really pays off. I think your mind is decieving you when it comes to the eyes though - the eye banks and skeletal structure is more important than the eye - establish those before you get to the eyes and lay a bit more emphasis on their structure. This will give depth to the face. Sometime it is useful to represent the entire subject only in terms of basic forms. This usually makes the structure stronger and lends more depth to the face.

Good progress - your making really good advancements with every drawing!
ciao

- d.

[oma]

oke, demented! realy thanx for your criticism and for dropping by.

I realy learn a lot from you. and i love your drawings. Oke i paid more attention on the eyes this time. I realy had fun with this one. Don't know why. but had more fun with it than ever before. And i alway's have fun with drawings things.

Hope you like it. C&C are alway's welcome.


Grtz --> Rob.

[oma]

Just made me a new one.

C&C alway's welcome.

Hope you will enjoy this one.

[oma]

made me a new one., made the eye's a bit smaller. i was tired.

but. it was fun :).

hope you like it.

[Lewis]

Hey oma!
Vette sketchbook hoor! Veel progressie en erg productief, kan ik wat van leren :nohope:
Mgoe die laatste twee zelfportretten zien er het beste uit van deze hele schetsboek. Soms een beetje uit proportie, maar over het algemeen vind ik dat je zelfportretten het beste zijn als je wat meer contrast gebruikt.

Ondanks dat de bijna dagelijkse portretten een goede oefening zijn, zou ik ook wat meer andere gezichten natekenen.
Ik heb namelijk zelf ook een tijd lang redelijk veel zelfportretjes getekend, en op een gegeven moment hadden zelfs imaginaire gezichten en andermans gezichten mijn kenmerken in zich verwerkt XD

Keep it up!
Lewis

[Jens]

hey oma

likelyness has a lot to do with proportions. if you get the proportions right the drawing will almost automatically look like the person. You can recognize one of your friends from far away long before you can clearly see the individual features. It has more to do with bone structure/proportions right than anything else.

[demented]

Hou op om in tale te praat wat ons nie verstaan nie!

Been some since I've been here, but things are shaping up nicely. Like Jens said, pay more attention to the proportions. Those are very important in creating a likeness, and understanding what you are drawing helps in avoiding mistakes. The lips are feeling a bit too dark, think you can either lighten them up or darken other parts, whichever goes. Other than that, there is huge improvement from #1 to this last one - keep it up buddy!

sien jou later,

- d.

[Meatsworthy]

Hello oma! :)

The latest drawing is a great improvement from the one just before. Keep it up!

My anatomy is not good, so I may be off-base... but it seems as though your putting the jaw and mouth a bit too forward?

[oma]

Lewis -> thanks for the comment. bedankt voor je kritiek. ja klopt. ik 'zou' ook eens andere gezichten na mogen gaan tekenen, maar wat kan je daarvoor het best gebruiken, levende (niet stilzittende) modellen of foto's?

Jens --> jup i noticed that one allready. but iam not allway's have that in mind. so iam not allways thinking about that. You said a GREAT reminder. Gonna write that on my door.

D- --> that dutch is not right. :P. but it's understandeble! :P
Jup i know i have to think about proportions. great tip for the lips. hope it works out in the next one. you will see right now :P.

Meatsworthy --> thanks for the comment. in some drawings my mouth is a bit too much forward. but it's looking quit oke the most of the times.

It's good to get criticism for strangers, that don't know me in person. because all the other say it looks great. it realy looks like you. but you are the one that are the reason for my progress, you are saying what iam doing wrong. so i can improve that for the next time! Thanks to all of you guy's and girls offcourse!.

[demented]

haha - it's not Dutch though, it's Afrikaans. Close to Dutch, but not quite.

Last sp shows more improvement! Think you should do some other faces from photos or books or whatever. Think it'll be a good way to learn faces, even try copying from the old masters. The variety can always teach one new stuff. Like your works - ek soek meer!

sien jou later,

- d.

[Recursive_End]

Hey Oma, thanks for the nice words in my sb.
I'd suggest on keeping doing life stuff, and a some research. I can't crit much for the moment, just practice alot !
Also don't forget how a lip is made. Especially the upper one, it has 4 diffferent "planes".
Anyway, keep doing lots of work :)

[bhanu]

Hey oma,
Thanks for dropping by my humble SB.Tell me how much time did you take on that sp.Okay tme for some critting.YOu asked for it.the nose seems a bit slanting with respect to eyes.I really think yo could put a little moe contrast .And try not make the hair look like one body .they are single strands close to each other.First make your sp froma photo.Its not shaky the lighting doesnt change.Its better for learning.And also before doing a long drawing try some quickies .they loosen up the hands quite a lot.Lets say do 4 15 min quickies before a hour and a half peice.Theres nothin particular wrong witht this peice.But you have to keep practicing to get better.ANd anothet thing always be satisfied by what you have and never be satisfied by what you do.Be your harshest critic.Becuase no matter what others say at the end of the dya it'll be you who has to make the decisions.
Take car e and keep practicing.

[oma]

D- --> Afrikaan's. how's life there? made me two portrets from foto ref. that i had on my computer from friends. Hope you like it. i think i gonna start doing a portret of my brother that died a few years ago. (ik zie je later :P). but first have to learn more about the contrast.


recursive- end --> Uhu practise practise and practise. thats drawing. but that's the fun of drawing. you are busy with a creative prosess and learning new stuff, and it's a lot of fun. there is just nothing better. and thats for you kind word to!. and thanks for that tip --> the lips ;P

bhanu --> thank you to for dripping by to my humblo Sb. Uhm, every portret will cost me 60 mins. i think.(i never clock them) if i have the construction it will take 20 min of shading maybe 30? the foto refs below are like 40 min. and yeah i know, i have realy problems with the hear. have to study them better. Uhu and it's true, iam never satisfied with my drawings.



So here are 2 photo ref portrets that where on my computer of some of my friends. hope you like it.

[Isobel]

heeej vogel!
hehe nice sketches here, and thanks for the words in my sb.
glad to see some new faces lol.
good luck with getting everything right.
kisses Lise

[Listing]

Great work. Keep going. Keep an eye on your relative value intensities and do some eye studies, they seem a little like Lucian Freud's.

[Niels23]

Great progress with a self portraits, man, really! I like it a lot. I`m not too good in drawing heads but here`s something I want to suggest: study carefully proportions and keep in mind perspective when you`re drawing heads. Also try to do studies of a head features - it really helps. Anyway, your drawings getting better and better - first girl in the last post is very good. And thanks for checking my sb! Keep it up!

[demented]

Hey oma

These are looking better already, great work on them - think you should do more!
It's maybe a good idea to first suggest the head in term of a cube. I always do this and it helps to establish width, height AND depth. This will make perspective on the head a lot easier, and it will be more structural. I think most people around here do it that way. Keep up the great work man!

ciao!

- d.

[oma]

isobel > Thanks. :D. hehe. is my face not good enough?

Listing > i have to study it all. -> nose, lips, eye's, skull, hair etc. thanks for your comment.

Ulver > thanks for you comment. it's good that you all see some progress. and you advise realy helps me!

D- > oke, i will try that one. More you want more you get.


Oke i tryed a new manner to do the shading. with rubbing my vingers over my pencils. Don't know what to think about it. hope you like it. C&C and will be appreciate!

[aprat]

My main crit would be to make your mid-grays a lot darker. Your last few portraits have been too light grey. The portrait at the top of the page is more accurate in this aspect.

[demented]

Hey dude

thanx for dropping by my sb so often man - appreicate the feedback!

Last one has an interesting technique, best used with charcoal. You shoudl check out Thomasphoenix's (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=296477&page=12&pp=15) works. He uses the smudging in combination with hatching/pencil strokes. Beautiful drawings.

This last one is looking great. The only thing I see really bothering is the hair being darker than anything else on the face - this extreme contrast creates a focal point and the face falls into the background. Put more dark into the eyes, nose and mouth areas and this will go away.

Great work, keep drawing these heads - you are making great progress!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

aprat > thanks for the C&C. yeah, i gonna use stronger grey tone's next time.

D- > oke, done stomething with the C&C, hope you like this new one

C&C are allway's welcome.

Oke made a new portret from foto ref.
that's a friend of mine, he looks realy shitty on that picture, he was drunk :P. Totaly funny how he looks, hope you can see why :P.
Hope you like it.

[demented]

ha - looks really wierd, hehe. Good to see you trying out different expressions mate! That way you'll learn the dynamics of the face and how the muscles work. Thses drawings of yours keep getting better, anxious to see where you are going with them!

hope to see more soon!
ciao!

- d.

[Kicek]

cool, i like it :) . maybe some darker darks inside the mouth? i dont know.. cheers C

[Cigaro]

do more crazy expressions...the skill of an artist comes out then, no when you do a boring expression:)

[Lewis]

hey some definate improvements in your portraits!
Are you already master in the bodyparts that u dont draw em? ;) Id recommend to start drawing human bodies as soon as possible aswell!
But great to see u started drawing other faces, youre doin great

Keep tha soul alive (om het maar es op zn Boris te zeggen ;))
Lewis

[oma]

D- > you want more you get more. but i will warn you. this one is realy crap. i don't like the nose, and all the other shit.

kicek > eum, yeah, tryed that, but it didn't worked out very wel. thanks for C&C.

Cigaro > sorry, didn't find a picture of a crazy expression. ill try to draw one tommorow.

Lewis > nope, iam not a master in the rest of the bodyparts. but i want to specialise me in the portrets. (ik was die gast alweer bijna vergeten :))

Oke here she will come. Maybe you will reconice her. i Hope you doe. she is a famous american. but i drawed her nose to long. THATS REALY SHITTY, it totally distroyed her face! hope you like the hear style. tryed something new!.

This picture just don't feel right, so i realy need some C&C.

[Sodbrenner]

wow, what a progress! Never forget the the thing Jeri said! i got one more tip for you, realised that just recently, it's about the mouth, don't shade the under lip to hard. i made a quick sketch only for you :teeth:
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mouthoc3.jpg
i made a big big fault here, whatever, its two oclock in the mornin... the light was meant to come from the ceiling, not the front! im sorry :)

[aprat]

About your last sketch: I recognized her immediately. Good likeness. Lips and especially eyes are great. The faults in the nose aren't immediately noticeable. I'd say the biggest problem lie in that you drew individual strands of hair. You should have blocked in bigger areas of light and dark and merely hinted at the direction of the strands.

[oma]

sodbrenner > ich danke dir fur deine reaction! :P i know, what you where telling there. will keep it in mind. many thanks.

aprat > iam gladd that you recognized her. because iam totally not happy with that sketch. but o well. i will make new one:). Jip, i was angry when i was doing the hair because she doesn't look like here. but o well. done a better job in the next one i think.

Oke, this is the girlfriend from a friend of mine when she was drunk :P.

[demented]

Sup oma

could have sworn I replied earlier ... oh well.

Great new face - structurally there is not much wrong with it - maybe the chin, not sure. The forms of the face are reading much better, you seem to be getting the hang of them. Think you should work on your line some (sorry, I tell this to everyone....). Think about every line you draw and why you are drawing it. Avoid making your lines hairy, try to draw them cleaner but still introducing that variation.

Huge improvement since the first portrait - well done!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

d- > doesn't matter. Iam productive the last day's. Jip i know i have to work on the lines. But could you say some good exercises for get better line work. or is it just a matter of thinking and drawing?

Hope you like my new SP!

Edit, try to get some other paper. maybe it will work out better for my next one!.

[oma]

oke, i was thinking to focus more on some study's, and i will see if it's improve my progress even more faster. Sow i will post more study's of faces in the future and lesser portrets.

Hope you like the study's, here are a few from Mentler ;) my online teacher :P.

[mentler]

Keep up the good work here and have many teachers <> on your portraits try to put less emphasis on the bottom eye lid <> remember that the top one is thicker and usually cast a shadow so it is more dominant than the lower lid.

[Niels23]

Last sp is much more proportional than previous one. Eyes are smaller and it makes it look better. And that last skull looks cool. Great work!

[demented]

Sup Oma!

Everytime I come here I see progress. Studying the Skull and facial muscles in the best thing you've done since you started this sb - and few better to learn from than Mentler. The way he handles faces is outworldy, much to be learnt from him! Keep up this good work - one of the most exciting things here on CA is seeing young artists grow.

Awaiting more dude!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

Sorry for not having a update today, will update tomorrow!!

did some studie's again, not worth posting. Jip still menlers study's.



Mentler., > realy cool to visit my humble SB, i don't deserve your attention, iam just nog good enough, i hope i will pleace you in the future!!! all the people here are my teachers!! .but you are just one off my favourits!!! i love you man!! you are my bear!! :D

Ulver > Thanks for you nice words, i know iam wasted now, iam gonna upload tomorrow!. did some mentler studie's. will not post them, are the same as yesterday. I will prent them 'good' in my head.


D- > you are one off my the most source of inspiration to me. i realy love your work and your comments!! It realy helps me! I just cant thank you enough! i hope i will become a good artist, just to fullfill you exceptations!!
i know, i want to be a artist to. but i have a lot to learn.
i will update not today, just because i have done some off the same study's as yesterday. > so i will not post the same excersises today. tomorrow i will post a new update.

For the other people that looked in my SB, i just want to say thanks. i hope you will have fun seeing my drawings. thats the first intention to post here. to learn and make eatchother draw a lot more!!!. iam sorry for the worst englisch you'll ever seen in you live. but iam wasted!. I just post because my feeelings are saying to me POST SOME ThANKS!! to the nice people of CA> I love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[Mitze]

Good job on those faces very solid looking and well done ok the proportion are a bit off in some but nothing you can't fix and you are improving all the time. I didn’t read through all the reply’s so i don't know if i can give any advice that hasn’t all ready been given on proportions as i wouldn’t be the best at them myself but here is what helped me. Try drawing lines ie. dot for the eyeball and a line to the nostril try to get the distance right another line to the other nostril up to the ear etc etc kind like joining the dots afterwards can help. And one other thing that helped me draw a pic from a magazine then trace it afterwards i am always surprised at how squashed the face is and how small the eyes are when i trace. Anyway keep up the good work. Hope i helped a little.

[oma]

Some one off the soccer team asked me to draw him from a passport photo, So i decided to draw him.

I hope you like it. just used the 2b pencils because the lines look softer with it.

[demented]

Sweet dude - great looking portrait! Very believable, well structured too. The rate ar which you are improving is astounding. Keep up the good work mate, continue like this and your are destined for greatness dude!

Keep these studies coming man - later they will repay you tenfold.
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

D- > thanks for such a sweet words. Did some study's again.

Hope you like them!

[demented]

Great studies dude - great that you are doing these, very valuable stuff! Now think about those skulls as you draw those face, look for certain features, such as the cheekbones or eyesockets, and apply your knowledge of the skull to your portraiture! Knowing what you are drawing helps a lot in deciding how you want to draw it!

keep up the good work mate!
ciao!

- d.

[Niels23]

These studies look good. Just do them as much as you can. Lines are already look better. And try to use this knowledge in your portrait work. Keep it up!

[blanquish]

mate, youve made great improvement.
On your portraits, instead of the really soft stuff, try some hatching or maybe just up the contrast with a 2b.
Nice to see skull studies.

[oma]

D- > i know, thats why iam doing them. I allready know more about the head by just doing such a little study's. Thanks for you comments, it realy helps me. I dig you stuff. maybe i gonna try charcoal on a portrait!

Ulver > thanks for visiting my sb. I didn't do a portrait today, but some more studing. i kinda like it a lot.

Blanquish > thanks for your comment, will keep it in mind for my next portrait.


Oke today i did go a little further on my study's. i don't have as much time anymore, school allmost begins, Kermis in my little village.
But i try to keep my everyday update's posting :P.

[Niels23]

These are great, man! Good work with proportions. Just don`t stop, you`re on the right way!

[demented]

Agree totally with Ulver - dead on the right track, don't ever stop! Everything is coming along muuuch better, each time you post there is huge improvement!

keep doing so dude!
ciao

- d.

[Fellah.]

I like what you are doing here! Keep up the hard work and it will pay off faster than you think, trust me. Draw, draw, draw8)

[oma]

Ulver > realy, thanks for that nice words!

D- > Lovely words, you are a big support for me. I hope i will not dissapoint you.

Fellah. > Cool you dropped by! I love your work.


Oke today, again a few study's. It's not much but it's helping me.
Now i gonna watch me some painter tuturials :D...

[demented]

hey dude!

thanx for always popping some props in my book!

Looking great! Really nice stuff. Also like where your line is going - something you might want to try (suggested to me by liam.c - i think) is put you pencil down and start drawing your line, but try not to pick it up at all. Go all over with the same line - this will forces one to think more about it, and then one can learn more!

Keep up the good work mate!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

d- > thats a realy HELPFULL!!! tip you just gave me, gonna try that out!!
and you are one off my fav. artist in here, so it's no problem for my to drop by :). i just love this site and your work, so i realy enjoy doing some drops in SB's :P.


So here's a wathercollour in painter. over a drawing i made. just a experiment, hope you like the collours?!

[demented]

Wow oma!

Great step forward! Really glad to see you trying out some colour! This one is looking really nice dude - right now the thing that catches my eye is the fact that the background is attracting too much attention. Other than that it's a great start - eager to see more!

If you are using painter you might want to try out the digital watercolours. They are a bit awkward to begin with, but once you get the hang of them they're really sweet to colour pencil drawings with!

and you are one off my fav. artist in here

Wow man, that's really heartwarming to hear - make me really happy! Muchothanx a buncho dude!

keep it up dude!

- d.

[Niels23]

That sp looks good! I see work with planes there, well done!

[Lewis]

omg *sniff* the improvement... you make me cry
Next year i see you, youll be the next rembrandt

I dont have any bloody thing to crit... your pieces arent perfect yet, but the speed at wich you improve solves a lot

keep it cool
lewis

[oma]

d- > ''Wow man, that's really heartwarming to hear - make me really happy!'' iam glad i can make you happy!!

Ulver > thanks for dropping by... uhu studie's are cool :)... you realy get the hang of it :D..

lewis > Thanks,,, that are some sweet words... i hope to ever even match Rembradt skills..



Okay... today. i did some study's... a portrait from ref.. cousin and a new digital watercollour from a previous portrait... i hope the background isn't that eye cathing anymore :P..

not happy with the position of the nose of my cousin.. but maybe i will do it over in painter..
hope you will enjoy!

[Darktwin]

Your self portraits have really progressed. Your structure and proportions. This was my instructor for the drawing class I had this summer. Check out his work.

Here (www.zhaomingwu.com)

[demented]

Hey man

coloured one is really taking the right direction - background is much better. Try to play around with colours - use cold colours to suggest shadows and warmer colours to suggest highlights. Take a look at zhuzhu's work and see how many colours he puts into one painting and how they make the painting come to life. The sketch is look good too, try to be bolder with your shadows and highlight, don't be afraid to spoil the drawing - just do it! Then you learn what works and what doesn't.

Greak improvement, great work!
Keep it up!

- d.

[isair]

wow, oma your progressing very well. The full value protraits are well done. The values are solid. Be careful with the features, don't be too harsh on the eyelids contours. Maybe it's a scanner problems but I think you could use more contrast with the value range. :)

[Meatsworthy]

Great improvement Oma! Keep going and soon I'll come here to take lessons :D

[oma]

Darktwin > thanks for dropping by... nice teacher you had!

D- > i what Zhuzhu's work very often,,, even printed some out and attached them on a wall in my room... it's realy cool to see how he handels the plane's with the derection of the lines... Learned a lot from him, and that wouldn't be te last i learned from him and this forum...

Isair > Jup i know.. have to work hard on the contrasts.. but iam afraid i spoil the drawing then,, just what D. said. i haven't be afraid to destroy the drawing.. i mean.. in my study's iam not afraid.. i ectually think it's more important that i remember and know how to do the faces and lines thank do a good study that looks exact like the ref..

Meatsworthy > that are Realy nice words. Hope i can fullfill your expectations.


Okay,, strange day for me today... did some study's and some cool strange idea with a friend of mine... Like playing with some lines,,, and make some strange but simple idea's. mine's is kinda crap but that one from him looks amazing.. will post that later...

it was realy cool that we could discuss about toying around with the line's. we discussed about 2 hours over it.. realy crazy shit.. :D

did a piantover in painter at that strange idea... but i hope you like it...

[demented]

Hey oma!

Strange idea looks great, like the play on black, white and gray. Mentler sometimes does an excercise where he just draws random lines on a page, looking for something. Once he has found something, for intance a face, he starts to render more deatailed into the face. The end result is usually freaky but awesome looking, because he had not tried to describe something with the lines - instead they are free and therefore more powerful. That also ties in with abstract art!

Anyways, great head studies dude, really coming along and you are defintely starting to get round the planes! Well done!

ciao!

- d.

[Niels23]

Hi oma!
Great studies, man! I think that perspective of a head is the most difficult thing, but your drawings are show that you got the idea of drawing head at any angle. With practice they`re becoming better and better, just continue and it`s gonna be OK :) I like the strange idea too!

[oma]

D- > thanks for dropping by. Yeah that strange project was kinda funny.. but what i liked most whas hour discussing about random lines and forms that took us about 2 hours :D.

Ulver > hehe. i keep practising !!.. thanks that you like that idea.. just a strange project. a experiment. something that took my mind of the 'faces' :D.

But o well. was looking some Painter tuturials and i watched the chapter layers today... so here's a paintover from a previous drawing with some layers phucking around.

Hope you like it..

http://members.home.nl/robmini5/drawing/ilonakleur.JPG

And why are the attachments lame little thumbnails?

[isair]

hey oma, Thanks for dropping by my book.
New update are well drawn. There's no obvious things off here. You could use a bit more contrast and avoid the sharp angle on the jar and simplify a bit on the eyelashes.
Don't try to do a drawing exactly like the ref. try to simplify the ref. instead. Weaken the tidious details and harden what you think interesting and represent it to the viewer. :) That's the trigger to do.

[demented]

Hey oma!

Great colour study!

isair is touching an extremely important point here: don't overstate the obvious. Instead of trying to render every single eyelash, draw a thicker line accross the eye to suggest it.

The cutout effect is maing this one look a tad flat, but the forms in the face itself have been handled rather well. Also don;t be afraid to add some darker colours, pushing the contrast! That said, the colour in this one is looking very good!

keep it up dude!
ciao!

- d.

[Niels23]

Skin`s colour and hair look nice! The rest crits read in isair`s comment - I totally agree with it. Waiting for more!

[oma]

Isair > tanks for dropping by!.. realy appreciate your crits. Have take that in my next works.

D- > thanks for dropping by again. and alway's helping me out, to become a better artist with you superb Crits... i realy appreciate that to.

Ulver > you are waiting for more? you will get more!


Okay, what i did today > made me a own study with just using cubes. i didn't had any refs so C&C are welcome on that one.

did some face study's again. not so much,, hadn't that much time free
and i did a new SP. used more contrast... realy can use your C&C on that one to :D. SP is made by sitting infront of a mirror :D. like i alway's do on SP's.

Hope you all enjoy it.

[Effel]

Hi Oma,

Nice to see someone else interested in doing portraits. That last one is pretty good. You really have a straight neck :rendered:
Apart from that, I can't see much wrong with it. But don't take it from me, I'm just a novice. Do you use any books?

Keep up the good work!

ps I used to have tea and stroopwafels with oma, a long time ago.

[Darktwin]

Nice grats on page 3, really nice progress on the last sp, the facial structure you posted also came out nice. Wonderful work. Keep up the good work Oma,

[oma]

Effel > thanks for dropping by, and yes iam using some Loomis books resently. just started and upped most of the study's here. I know that nek doesn't look like that. but was more focussed on the shading that day.

Ps thea is tasty. stroopwaffels to. :P

Darktwin > thanks for dropping by.

Edit: lol i forgot my study's from today. i don't have much time. so it's just a little studying. watched some older painter tuturial agian. to refresh my mem.

sime are done from ref some are kust fast doodles


enjoy

Ps Edit 2: added my last SP again. than there are not just crapy study's here :P

[Ashrumm]

Thanks for posting in my skechbook Oma!
Wow you have really stayed the course with those portraits, man your dedictation is very paramount. Keep at this pace and you will be dynamite in no time. I see alot of improvement in your work keep it up!

[Recursive_End]

Hey oma !
You're doing good efforts. Keep studying and doing portraits.
As a tip: don't hesitate on doing some hatching on small shaded areas like noses, lips, and eyes. It gives a nice contrast and additional detail.
Keep it up ;)

[demented]

Aye mate, Recursive said it all. Wesley Burt uses value in those hatching extremely effectively, give it a try! Your rate of improvement is astounding - if I don't start working you're gonna surpass me!

sp is looking even better. However, I think you need to start hatching in addition to smudging. Hatching teaches a lot of powerfull lessons, such as appreciating form.

Keep up the hard work mate!
ciao!

- d.

[stine]

hey there, always great to see other doing portraits. great progress, i especially like it when you're using a wider range of values. i always try and keep the darkest tones for the areas i want to emphasize (in my case mostly the eyes). whatever's darker usually kind of 'pops' out into the 3rd dimension, i found... good work, oma! see ya, cheers,

stine

[mitch]

hey man, the portraits look good. My #1 crit is to push the darks. Before you start to render your drawings, find your darkest dark(making that as dark as the lead your using can go) and find your absolute white(this will probably be a highlight). And what i have seen so far is that when you do push your darks, its really kind of "patchy". work on making your rendering look smooth. keep the portraits coming.

[sith]

Good progress on those portraits Oma, but you still got a whiles to go. I totally agree with Jens here. Use plumblines and check your angles. For instance look at the angle that the outside of your eye is at compared to your nostril. then make sure your drawing reflects that. keep at it buddy. you're only gonna get better. btw, i love those flowers in the first post

[oma]

ashrumm > thanks for dropping by.

Recursive_End > tryed to go for the eyes and lips. don't think it worked out well. but thanks for dropping by and the great tip!

D- > teacher :P. allways gladd you dropped by again. realy thanks for that kind words. and next time i will drop by, it's not a smutched SP :). don't like it at with big contrast diffrences.

Stine > Stine thanks > tried to darken the eye's. but realy fucked up the rest of it :(.

Mitch > oke, thanks for that tip. and dropping by ofcourse :).

Sith > i know, i got whiles to go. :D. jup. i agree with you and jens again. allway's fuck up my nose :(. next time i will push it a level higher! (i hope)

Oke did some drawing in the train yesterday, but lost my sketchbook :(.

So i came home tonight and made you a SP. hope you like it. and i realy can use some.

[Niels23]

Wow, it`s Much better!!! That dark area makes it look very impressive. Eyes are much more detailed than in your previous SPs, they`re maybe a little big, but anyway it looks cool! Also check placement of the mouth - think it`s a little lower than should be. Anyway - great work!!! And I like that studies too. Keep it up, man! Thank you for support!

[stine]

hey there! that's looking much, much better, oma! you get a great 3d effect by setting those values, so i really enjoy that last one! the pupils may be a little big, but tobe honest that doesn't even bug me, because over all it shows a lot of expression. next step would probably be thinking more about planes or better: keeping in mind that a head has a front, a back, top, bottom and sides. think of it as a 3d object like a sphere or (like i prefer) a cube.
anyway, love that sp, keep going! cheers,

stine

[mentler]

Glad to see you are still working the sp's <> great way to track progress and learn

[Lewis]

Jow omaatje!!
Again the progress.. <3 Nice shadows at his eyes. Good use of contrast to let people focus on the head and last of all nice shades on the nose.
BUT! now for the crits/suggestions!
- play some more with shadows, put the lights on in a certain corner of your room, late at night, and start your selfportrait. That should make up for some interesting shadows to learn from!
- Your mouth looks a bit "forward", more like its on top of your head, rather than built in. I would suggest to use some more shading there (and especially in between the mouth-chin area, wich usually is pretty dark.
- Hair is done rather quickly, make sure people see WHERE the hair come from. Even if that means u drawing every string of hair, it definately make it a lot more believable that its not somekinda wig (pruik)

Keep updating
Lewis

[demented]

Hey oma, sorry for not dropping by earlier!

Last one looks great, Lewis is right about the chin/mouth area: there is a shadow beneath the lower lip. Look at someone's face from the side and see how far farward the lips really go. Your hair also needs attention, but I don't think drawing every single hair is necessary: again, try to block it out in basic shapes and shade acordingly. When you draw, squint at your face in the mirror to more easily distinguish between values.

Doing great man - keep posting!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

Ulver > Realy thanks for the kind words, yeah now you did said about the mouth. looks indeed a little strange there. thanks for the support. you are realy motivating me to draw more.

stine > thanks for dropping by, i will keep your words in my mind in my next SP. hope it will work out better.

Mentler > the bonedad himself. thanks for dropping by. i hope one day i will have the same knowledge as you. gonna learn hard for it.

Lewis . Jow. realy thanks for the tips. they will realy help me. in my progress. it's a realy good idea to play with the shadows to move the light and shit. and that chin lips quest is not finnisched :D. i will work on it, and keep your comments in my mind by creating new SP's. :). (het helpt echt ;))

D- > It's not a problem, i will not die because you didn't dropped by earlyer :P.
i know my hear need's a lot of work. but if you are saying it (again?) it will get better in my mind to put more attention to it. i realy have to thank you for alway's dropping by and support me. thats means realy much to me. ----> THANKS !!!!!!

oke people. today i wanted to do a SP, but my mom's removed the mirror, and i couldn't find it :). so i did some studying again :). hope you like it.
owjeah, i allways watch some Painter tuturials.. ghehe, hope i can blow your minds off soon with it. :).

[Effel]

Your last sp is excellent! I can't say anything about the likeness, but it's simply a very convincing portrait, nice dark shading... Keep it up.

[Goodbye..fromthevoid]

Wow for someone who hates drawing you sure do alot of it!!!

Oh wait...that's me...

Well you sure do a lot of self-portraits and faces and stuff. Careful you don't make those self-portraits too acurate, or they'll use them against you when they call the authorities on ya!

Oh wait...that's me again...

So yeh...faces. Wop. Good luck! I can feel your passion bleeding!

[blanquish]

thanks for the comment in mah book!
The self portrait is coming along nicely, but the rendering could do with a bit more work.
Think of contrast, i wanna see blacks, and i wanna see whites.
Give hatching a try.
One method i use is putting a really fat 2b pencil done first, to give it automatic contrast and texture, then laying down the hatching with a 2b pencil over the top.
Keep drawing, the improvement will be paramount in no time

[Kicek]

hey man, ur hard work is really paying off. some mad improvement since the first page. also i´d like to say thanks for ur ongoing support in my sb. i appreciate it. Maybe u should now give drawing with values instead of lines a go?. keep it up buddy!!

[oma]

Effel > thanks for dropping by. iam gladd you like my portrait.

Blanquish > thanks for dropping by. gonna try more black and white's :).
and thanks for the shading tip. gonna try it out.

Goodbye..fromthevoid > haha, that made me laught.. thanks. needed it.
thanks for dropping by!!

Kicek > thanks for dropping by. what do you mean whit, drawing with values instead of lines?... sorry for not getting that:P.
but i will try it for sjure if i know what it means :P.

oke, what did i today. i tryed some cartoony portrait in painter. it's a paintover of a SP(me with white hair). and i did some study's. :). and did a new SP. did some toying around with the lightning. C&C are alway's welcome!.. hope you will enjoy it.

[Sawa]

hey
nice to see you so much studying.
your faces improved a lot since the 1st page!
the last one looks really great but try to push the right side of the face a little more
keep posting! :D

[aprat]

You seem to be getting better with contrast and shading.
Your self-portraits have a couple of recurring issues though.
Firstly, you draw a line around your lips that makes them stand out, and the lines on your bottom lip makes it look too cylindrical.
Secondly, your facial features are usually drawn too big for your head. Especially the eyes. This could be caused by something as mundane as you holding the mirror too close to your face.
Those loomis studies are looking nice though.

[isair]

ah, loomis :) I didn't do that book, but I think I will in time. And I think you can put what you learned from the book into your own life drawings. Guide lines, simplify forms, etc. And your progressing well. On the last one the core shadow is well done. The nose could use more contrast because it's more poping out than the cheek. Keep up the good works oma. :)

[sith]

you have done BOATLOADS of work since you first started this sketchbook. i'm thoroughly impressed. anyway, those loomis studies look good, and your latest sp is looking much better- much better contrast, but it's hard to say anything about likeness, since you don't have a photo of yourself up- you should do that. that would help us see any problems you might be having with proportions and such. anyway. thanks for droppin' by the booky, buddy. keep up the hard work

[oma]

Sawa > thanks for dropping by. hope it's pushed hard enough?

Aprat > oke, did what you said about the lips. that 'realy' helps.!! realy thanks for dropping by and help me so much!

isair > thanks for dropping by. loomis study's are cool. realy enjoying them.

sith > i took a photo. :). but i still made a drawing from the mirror. will post it tomorrow. :). i lost the photocable :P.

oke what did i do today. some study's :D:D. and a SP. with hb for the construction and b8 for the shading. realy trying to push myself further in the blacks. hope you enjoying it.

and i want to say to all of you, you are realy helping me. whit all of you comments. BIG THANKS FOR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 CA.ORG !!! <3<3

[Niels23]

Wonderful! You fixed eyes, mouth and nose looks great! It`s your best SP, really. One suggestion - try not to draw eyebrows with so heavy lines. They`re too dark, thought. Got no other crits. Good work, mate! :)

[Recursive_End]

Good workKeep doing faces. But don't forget that the upper lip is always very dark. (that aplies only if the light comes from the top of the face). Besides that, keep working on planes, it really helps !

[demented]

Dude!

That self portrait is waayy better - really much more believable, much better form and texture! Like Recursive said - pay attention to the planes abd darken the upper lip and I think you can lighten the lower lip a bit too. Great work man, keep it up!

ciao!

- d.

[mentler]

Portrait works starting to pay off <>

[stine]

hey there, looking really good. loomis studies are cool and pushing the values worked quite fine. you took care of all the important shadows - one thing maybe that took me a while to discover and helped a lot: changes of form have a soft value shift while shadows normally have a lot sharper edges... great progress, oma!

[isair]

hey oma, last sp is amazing. I especially love the expression. Actually I did a redrawing after that portrait, if you don't mind.:)

[oma]

Ulver > thanks for dropping by again :D... did something with your crit. was realy helpfull!

Recursive_End > thanks for dropping by.

D- > one of my fav. artist around here. when are you gonna upload again. i cant wait :D. by the way > thanks for dropping by !!. it means realy much for me.

Mentler > my online teacher.. i means a lot to me that you drop by :D. i love you!

Stine > thanks for that crit for the schadows, i tryed it in this one. hope it came out well.

Isair > WOW, That are kind words. offcourse you may redraw the portrait!!!. only if you post it here :) ore in your tread :). thanks for dropping by..

O well... what did i do today after school. well. did some study's > atonomy! from loomis combined with some of mentlers stuff. and made a new SP, again from live. alway's draw SP's from a mirror. And i will post a photo for you. so you will be able to crit me better :). oke. the foto is crap :). hoop you all enjoy it.

[Niva.]

Oma, I think you did very well in the last one. Good shading and use of light.

This comment is not related to the last one but if you're trying to really improve your portraits you can attack it from a couple of diff angles instead of head on with practice because sometimes you just get stuck in making the same types of errors. I would suggest going to the bookstore and just browsing through a couple of books explaining how the face is structured, how the main lines in the face are layed out. It was about a year ago when I did this and my faces improved dramatically.

Another thing you can do is if you're working from a real photo buy some transparent paper which has straight lines on it and use the lines as guides. They basically split the image into smaller chunks. You can then draw some very faint lines on your piece of paper and produce an almost identical image with this technique. This works on more then just faces but it will again help you to get the proportions correctly. Just study it, look at it, where the main lines are and how the face divides up.

Hope it helps, you really did good on the last one tho. Keep them coming.

[Effel]

hey Oma,

just a small comment. looks like your nose is a little bit curved upward (wipneus) at the end, which is not quite reflected in your sp's. hope you can use the comment. cheers!

[Beershite]

Nice potraits!
I can see alot of progress in a short time! keep at it!:)

[Meatsworthy]

At last a photo!

Last portrait really has the lighting coming together, but I think the one just before has a better resemblence. Think it's the nose, like Effel said... and also your lips look fuller in the photo.

Keep it up, keep it up.

[Danomight]

Nice progress :)

You made some significant improvement on that last one. A good tip to getting proportions right is to constantly compare landmarks on the face you are drawing. As you sketch in the features lightly, keep track of where each corner of the eyes are in comparison to where the outer edges of the nose lay...ask yourself how wide the mouth is compared to the nose...where the mouth corners are in comparison to the eyes. And also do this horizontally as well, using the ears as measuring points for the eyes and nose.

Keep it up!

[oma]

N1va > thanks for dropping by. Uhu. i have some loomis books and iam studing them. but i want to buy some bridgeman books. they look cool :D.
and i allready did something you said with photo's :). make little squares and than make squares on the paper. :)

Effel > extualy i don't have a (wipneus) wipnose. but that looks like it because of the licht at the end. of my nose and nowhere else on my face. :P. Thanks for dropping by and seeing some dutch here :P.

Beershite > I will keep at it :P. thanks for dropping by.

Meatswhorty > thanks for dropping by. all my friends say the second one looks better. so i don't know. but i think the first one looks like me to.

Danomight > thanks for dropping by, i alway's begin with the eye line. and a vertical line on it. than i gonna do the eye's very light, the nose and the lips. if that looks okay with me, i will do the rest of the face to. and indeed what you say. i use landmarks to. but i think i have to seek more on human faces. but iam studing and i hope i will find some more by doing that.


Okay what i did today. :). i draw my mother from life when she was reading a book. it took me like a hour. :). hoop you like it. she was happy with it. I used a HB pencil for construction and a 7b for shading.

[demented]

Hey man

Will be uploading some stuff hopefully tommorow.

This last one looks great, very beleivable. Still some minor issues though - the eyes have a great feel but the far eye is larger and heavier than the front one, when it should be the other way around. The higher contrast on the far eye makes it pop forward, making the whole face look a bit flat. Something else that bother a bit is that only the eyes have really dark values - the nostrils, lips, chin and hair are a bit too light.

But overall this is very impresseive and a great leap foward, well done. Your improvement is astounding - keep it up mate!
ciao!

- d.

[sith]

dude- that last sp is looking very nice. if you keep progressing at this rate, you're gonna be a rockstar by next week! keep it up buddy

[isair]

wow, dude the second last portrait is improving dramatically. I see you've fixed the eye structure and eyebrows as well, and now they look amazing. And to me the lip sturcture still needs improvement. Try dotting out the point where structure change and then connect them and enhance them. Loomis draw great lips, or you can check them out too. :) And you can try light your face with a direct light instead of making the whole face hide in shades. Direct light is more easier to draw than indirect light comparably.

[oma]

d- > thanks for dropping by. i agree wiyh you about the eyes and the contrast. will keep it in mind for next time.

sith > i will not be a rockstarr next week ;). but iam gonna try.
thanks for dropping by.

Isiar > thanks for dropping by. :D. eum did some study's for the lips today.


oke iam kinda in a hurry, so i did some quick half hour study of lips. and a muscle study for the jaw.
first did a mentler skull :P, after it i took the muscles from the loomis books and combined those to.

just a small update. hope you will enjoy it!

[Meatsworthy]

Nice one of your mother and good studies.

I think your friends like the 2nd one better because of the improved level of rendering skill. :)

[stine]

hey oma, thanks for having a look at my sketches! portrait of your mom looks great, it's such a tough pose with the eyes half closed, but you did a good job. using two different pencils is also a great way of getting the values in and still being able to correct everything you may have missed. combining life drawings with studies is also really, really helpful. so, i see you're on the right track, no real crits here! cheers,

stine

[Niels23]

I very like the portrait of your mom too! Great studies and sp-progress! Your rendering skill is really improved. Keep it up!

[oma]

Meatsworthy > they say the likeness is better than the first one.
but they don't understand much about drawings :D. cant ask them fror any crits. :P. thanks for dropping by.

Stine > thanks for dropping by. and yeah your sb realy is worth a look !. all people here. go see stine's work. that rocks !

Ulver > Thanks for dropping by. iam just checking out what renderings methods suits me. i realy have to improve them a lot more :D. thanks for dropping by.

what i did today, just some study's. didn't have to much time today.
hope you like it!

[demented]

Great studies dude. The way Loomis explain eyes is absolutely wonderful - Mentler himself explains eyes in a very similar way. Muscles of the face also very important - alongside which you should also acquaint yourself with the planes of the faces. Keep up the good work dude!

ciao!

- d.

[isair]

There you go oma. It's a good way to do before actually life sessions and itself is a great way to learn the structure more clearly.
Oh, btw, you've done well with the eyes.

[stine]

haha, thanks for the advertisment, that's really nice! :)
good studies, never underestimate doing them, they really pay off in the end (notice to myself: do more studies again...:)). looking forward to your next stuff! cheers,
stine

[oma]

d- > What can i say. it's great somebody with your skills allway's helping and motivating me!. Thanks for droping by. Uhu mentler is really cool ! ^^. one of the best, if not the best :). in his genre :).

Isair > thanks for dropping by. i hope i can draw my grandmother some day:). that would be quit funny :D. 3 geniration's portraits :D.

Stine > study's are really cool to do. Just to bad i don't have enough time, now schools started again.


oke, like i said, didn't have much time. so i only did some study's again :). and some tuturial watching :P. Gonna do the artistic oils in painter soon.
did some constructional lines on the faces in the books :) from school. the don't like that. :). but anyway. again 2 page's of studys :D from loomis. muscle, eye and mouth.

[Niels23]

Hi again! great studies of muscles, eyes and mouth - the mouth is always difficult to draw, especially teeth, but you`ve done it well! It`s always great to see your new studies - it makes me think I`m not alone on this way :) Keep it up and thank you Very much for the support, man!

[Zanconato]

Vast improvement since when I last visited, i'm not a fan of "smudging" but you seem to work very well with it. Your loomis studies look promicing - your art can only get better!

[stine]

hey there! good studies again! the eye in 3/4 view (upper right) is particularly well done! just consider that teeth normally are quite different in size and form dpending on their function. hope you had a good school start and find the time to draw! cheers,
stine

[isair]

Nice study oma. Remember the upper lid drops shadow on the white of eye balls too. Just a slight shade will do. Kchen's session demo has one page says, think the eyeball like a diamond. That's a quick and dirty trick I love. :D

[sith]

eyessss- it's a good idea to focus on not too much at one time- keep doin' it man!

[oma]

Ulver > thanks for dropping by. you are not alone. i will c&c you :). study's are great.

Zancoato > :D thanks. just have to understand the head more. it's pretty intressting how the heads muscles work. and the smudging. :) o well. i realy did not find a truely oma's way of rendering. i will try more type's of shading soon. i think :D.

Stine > i will make time to draw. oke, not as much i did before :). but i will make time. everyday!.

Isair > uhu, there is a little bit af shading there. just a crappy scan :). lips and eye's are cool to do. now if i think of these things. i have to draw more noses!
and thanks for dropping by.

Sith > i am focussing me more on portrats. first of all. because i think if you can draw heads good. you can draw allmost everything on a human body. If you now the right proportions ofcourse. :). and heads are just such a good way to draw expression's :D.

oke. didn't get much time today again. :(. school, soccer, felt in sleep. :/ iam to tired. > i have to draw, not sleeping. do that in your own time :P. :D draw draw draw.

study's today.

enjoy.

[D.Labruyere]

hi oma! nice sketchbook you have here, lots of progression and effort put into it.

anyways, je vroeg naar welke school en wanneer ik begon, ik ga dus naar de Sint Joost in Breda en ben deze dinsdag begonnen. (de 29e dus)

nogmaals, toffe dingen! en kan op het moment alleen maar zeggen, keep them coming :D

[Meatsworthy]

Wow, this one has improved so much from the earlier one: http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17069&stc=1&d=1156891981

[oma]

Haldor > bedankt voor het langs komen!
post your prosess off the art ac. it will be intresting! i hope i can go to art ac next year in Maastricht.

Meatsworthy > thanks for dropping by. its extualle not the same :). diffrent ref :). ghehe :D.


Oke again some studys today.

muscles, lips, eye, nose.
enjoy.

[Sirithduriel]

Wow, great sketches and studies! Those kissing lips a few posts back and thise latest post are really great, the hatching makes them look very shiny and nice :)


Note to self: studies like this really help.

[dragonguitar]

heey oma
goede zelfportretten , ik ben zelf pas 15 maar ik denk (weet eigenlijk) wel zeker dat ik een artistieke opleiding wil doen.
mijn vraag is dan waar zit zo'n school.

kan je deze bericht beantwoorden bedankt.
ik vind die hand heel mooi gelukt.

laterzzz

[demented]

Sup dude - appreciate the props in my book man.

Damn dude- studies are looking great. Don't forget to aplly them from time to time in some imagination works - but they are looking really wonderfull. Faces are very believable - Loomis is a god, great teacher to learn from. Keep it up mate!

Thanx for the continued support!
ciao!

- d.

[oma]

Sirithduriel > thanks for dropping by.

Dragonguitar > did send you a PM.

D-> if you just looked a bit later you saw some face that's inspired by Mentler. no copy, just some strong resembles :):P.

Oke just wanted to upload this one. its with some Pen so i cant erase the mistakes :D.

hope you like it al. inspired by Mentlers faces.

[Niels23]

Great pen experiment! Your doing great with your line. Just always keep in mind that Loomis` rule : "always build on the middle line" and proportions will be OK - some problem with the mouth here I think. Also I very like heads in 180`th post - you`re really improved doing studies, keep it up!

[oma]

Ulver > thanks for dropping by. first time from imagination.

But i tryed again. hope you like it.
will post the 1.5 hour face sketch. and a digital that took me a half hour!

[isair]

I think if you can see both upper and lower teeth, the mouth might be the shape of saying Eeeee or Errrh. While saying Arhhh, the lower teeth might not be seen that clearly? Not sure but too lazy to go to the br for a mirror :)
Good for imaginary with pen and ink anyway.

[Jens]

hey oma getting better and better. Some nice studies, nice clean, loose lines. I think you should start doing some other stuff than just faces. I used to draw only faces and it still haunts me. I know heads are more intresting than bodies now, but better start now then bite your lip later. Just a suggestion :)

[Listing]

Interesting portraits recently. If you could better train those lines around their forms and modulate intensity you'd have some Durer work, for sure.

[Shinryu]

some nice studies, good progress, i agree with jens would like to see some other stuff rather than just face

keep it up

[stine]

hey oma! great to see you're experimenting with different materials and going for the digitals every now and then. it's always tough to get out of the "comfort zone" and start something new, so kudos on that! the hatching on the last one could use some work (but i'm aweful at hatching, so i'm sorry i can't give you any tips) - especially the cheek area looks a little stiff. like he's got "seams" there... but i really like the way you rendered the eyes on that last one. very lifelike!
hope to see more from you soon! cheers,
stine

[Niels23]

Great inks! I like the way you hatch it - very impressive. Listing`s right just keep on practicing and you`ll get great results! Keep on going, man!

[demented]

Lsting's definitely on the right track here - get some of Albrecht Durer's works and study them a bit - look how he leads his lines over the forms. Defintely worth taking a look at. Good work overall - keep pushing the faces out and don't forget to apply your Loomis studies - the planes and the like!

ciao!

- d.

[oma]

Listing > never heard of durer. Now i have. gonna try to improve the linework!

Jens > true true. you'r right. but i want to have some bridgeman books. can't find them anywhere.

Isair > o oky. i just was letting the pencil lose on the paper. and that came out :D.

Shinryu > gonna try to upload more diffrent stuff.

Stine > soon enough? :P thanks for dropping by.

Ulver > gonna realy do some more study's. :D

D- > uhu just doing some loomis stuff, will upload it later. iam kinda bussy nowday's.

Okay what i did the last day's. JUP i got my pencil everyday to the paper. but i have not much time so i draw not as much if you would like to.

So here is a portret i scanned in from a girl / model in my class. it's from ref.
worked 2 day's on it. 2 x 1 hour = 2 hour :D.

will update the study's i did recently later. hope you like it.

[Meatsworthy]

Very cute. The eye on the left appears a little strange, but maybe the ref looks like that. Good job, keep improving!

[stine]

hey! soon enough indeed. :) good job on that portrait, her chin looks a little small, but since i don't know your reference... i think, seperating the hairband fromt the actual hair through diffrent color would be good, but i like the way you clearly gave the earrings a different material. eyes are looking great, too. good sense for the reflection there. see you! cheers,
stine

[JERI]

hope you like it al. inspired by Mentlers faces.

I don't know who Mentler is but that's one awesome choice of a face, can you link me to the ref? I would love to draw this face too. :)

[jar]

Last pic is fantastic! Keep this all up! Your doing great!

[sith]

faces are a good way to show expression haha. but... so are hands dude. maybe you should bust out a few. the last girl's looking good by the way btw. if you're going for realism try not to outline things to much in the end- you wanna think more in terms of values creating lines for ya- anyway, keep truckin' buddy!

[oma]

Kingsworthy > looks exactly like the ref. the shading is the only diffrence! :D thanks for dropping by. i think it's a bad ref. she doesn't look good on the pic. and she is a model :P lol :D. she is realy cute. i can say :D.

Stine > i try to update every day. i will update some stuff of the last few day's if i get my scanner back working and if i got more time! and yeah chin looks strange to me, i think it's because the bad ref.

JERI > i will send you tomorrow some PM"s with some links. you will enjoy it. he is a 'real' master here!

Jar > thanks for dropping by, i checked you site. nice stuff you have there. are you allready having a SB? it's a great way to show people your progress and it realy keeps motivating you. all the good crit's you got here. it realy helped me.!!

Sith > i know, hands are fantastic to draw. but hard. but i drawed them a lot. so my hand should be better than my face work. Will look if i can draw some for you!.

Oke what i did today, i did some study's in my SB again. :D. and some in Painter. some lips study's. looked realy cool, but painter crashed. so i made a face for you. also from ref. > loomis.

but it's great to practise with painter. and learning some more about faces and proportions. so i only will upload the painter face today!. scanner is fucked.

and i will buy tomorrow a bridgeman book! :D

[oma]

OKAY, iam sow tired now.
but i will upload some stuff.

some study's and some doodles. first the doodles, and after that the study's.
and some older from the last few day's. only did some digital today. need to feel better with the digital pencil in my hands. so i can study 2 things at 1 time :D.

[oma]

arch iam so tired. only did some foto ref drawing today.

tryed to study the contrast, but i failed. i think. there is not enough contrast.

hope you have some helpfull crits. still waiting om my bridgman book :D.
did some doodling at school. not in the mood to scan them :D. to tired :D.

[Lewis]

Hey oma, ik dacht ik kom weer eff langs.
Laatste ziet er goed uit! Ik ben ook erg moe :dad: dus verwacht niet hoogstaande krits
- oren zijn niet goed afgewerkt
- ze ziet er nog een beetje mannelijk uit (kaaklijn)

Goed dat jij je sb nog actief houdt. Ik heb het momenteel een beetje druk met mijn introweek @ willem de kooning academie.

Keep it up,
lewis

[sith]

i'm liking this last face, oma- nice texture from the pencil! very fine hatch job- keep it up dude

[oma]

Lewis > yeah i see. the jaw line is a little bit to wide.
and how are you doing on your academy!? ears look crap indeed. thats why i did a ear study today.

Sith > thanks for dropping by. tryed a new shading style. > with no blurring ore smutching. i felt kinda oke with it.

Oke some study's from Loomis books.

[Niels23]

Hey oma, great updates! Girl in the 194th post is really cute! :) and you`re doing good studies, keep`em coming! Great to see that you start hatching - good job, last portrait is very well done!

[isair]

Hey oma, the last pencilling is great. The head is way more solid than before. Lights are clear and nice contrast. Nice progresses. :) Keep up bro.

[oma]

and again did some drawing :D.


Ulver > thanks for your continous support. wanna start a study group? :P.

Isair > thank you to for you continous support, wanna start a study group to? :D

did, some studying and a portrait. with much contrast!
hope you like it.

you can see, that my digital line's are pretty crappy :D.

[Neireth]

Hey Oma, just passing by to comment on your amazing progress, and how your lines and sketches become more confident and better by each post.
I am really enjoying your last post, very strong, and the portrait is great.

Keep it up, I'll be keeping an eye on this sketchbook!

[Johann de Venecia]

Hi, Oma. You've been working hard, great improvement from the stuff you had posted in page1. I love your still life sketches.

Keep on doing those studies :)

Btw, is Oma your real name? I ask because its what I called my grandma. Anyway, take care.

[Niels23]

Last portrait is very very nice! Solid form and great shading - you`re really progressing! About study group - do you mean a separate thread for studies or what? :)

[oma]

Neireth > i am gladd iam onjoying someone with my posts! thanks for dropping by.

Lukavi > i keep doing study's, still waiting on the bridgman book.
and no it's not my real name. my real name is Rob. my friends call me mini, because in the past i was very little. the nick oma, hmm don't know why i used it. i use that nick on mIRC and in some games.

Ulver > thanks for you support!.. uhuh, that is what i mean, so we can comment and crit echother.. and offcourse for hour motivation.
but the main pupouse is to do some study's for the same subject. a week noses, a week eye's etc.. so we are all bussy on the same thing. the same study peaces with diffrent refs. etc.

oke did some study's again. some doodle's at school, and a strange funny digiphuckingaround thingy i did yesterday. :D.

[oma]

oke, today i started on a Portrait in painter.

i will post a WIP. worked about a hour on this one.
aim using some oil pastels.

hope you can comment and crit me.

only worked on the nose some longer about 20 min. that's why it looks more renderd :)

[Niels23]

I like these sketches. It feels that your line`s becoming more confident and free. Color work is nice :) Keep on going!
About group again - think we can try do do it, but I`m just not sure about my regular updates in there - have so little damn time to draw now. But if you start it - I`m in game and gonna try to post frequent as I can :) cheers!

[Quicksilver]

Your dedication is ace, oma!!

These are my favs:
SP (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14734&stc=1&d=1156372717) - excellent use of lighting and shading - probably the most refined so far.
Face (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20711&stc=1&d=1157664460) - really nice portrait, beautiful face, though it would pop out so much more if you applied some darker tones in there. Whip out a 6B pencil, I say!! :P
With the digital overpainting, keep in mind that light doesn't just hit the one side of the face, even if it is pointed in that direction. Look in the mirror under the same lighting, if poss, and you'll notice that light reflects on the bottom part of the chin-jaw on the other side, and maybe along the cheek bone.
Face studies (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21319&stc=1&d=1157823850) - the laughing man on the top right rules!

Keep this up, it'll pay off in time :)

[Fishspawn]

Tons of progress since the first one, and it's been a lot more since you started doing the studies. Keep up the dedication and you will keep improving at a rapid pace! Definately keep focusing on proportion and underlying structure, they are still your weak points. Can't wait to see where you go from here :)

[sith]

that painter portrait's looking sexy man! if you're using that zhu zhu brush it can get a little frustrating until you get used to it. the trick is to realize that it moves the surrounding paint around like it's butter. when you want to blend, color pick with the alt key, press with the pen lightly and try to stroke accross the form. to soften an edge, i color pick the color of the edge and blend in the direction of the edge. and then i do the same thing with whatever's on the other side of the edge as to not soften too much. not to much to it. just takes some time getting used to. the amount of work you do puts me to shame man. cheers buddy. you're truckin' along great.

[demented]

Hey oma!

sorry haven't been aroun lately - pretty busy these days. everything is shaping up rather well. Take some of the harshness out of that painter portrait - remember one can be rough.sketchy without being harsh. Don't forget to draw something according to what it is/feels. An orcish warrior would be very rough, whereas a sleeping beauty would be soft and sensitive!

Keep up the good work dude!
ciao!

- d.

[Uziel]

hey man i've seen some improvement in those last ones.
Keep going.
Go go goo. :p

cheers

[oma]

Ulver > thanks for dropping by again.

Quicksilver > thanks for dropping by and for that great light tip!

Fishspawn > thanks. i will go on with the study's :D

Sith > thanks for dropping by. will try zhuzhu's brush in my next digi. great tips you gave me. thanks

D- > thanks, it's no problem for not dropping by. it's a WIP. but i can kill myself now. worked on it about a hour, and was making good progress on it. than painter crashed, i only could save one jpg file :S. and a early stage in rif. :/ i will show you the jpg, and work on the rif. again later. :/.

Uziel > thanks.

wtf i made such a stupid mistake :/. arch. arch.

some drawings at school from mind, and some progress shot of the WIP. i lost the most of it. in riff. so i have to start work on it again.!

Fuck that shit, just gonna work on it without the layers.. just work on the canvas

[oma]

Okay, i did some digital today,

if someone hass some crits please post!.

it took me about 5 hour in Painter to get this. :) some oil pastels and for the background some airbrush. worked on it with 3000 pixels.

hope you like it.
and my bridgman book arrived :D :D.

[Meatsworthy]

That rocks. Really well done!

The only crit I can think of is the background could be more in harmony, but who cares!

[Wakkawa]

The face is really well done.

Though, I think the hair could use some more work. Right now it looks kinda stiff. There are also a few tiny white lines around the figure, but those could easly be fixed.

[sith]

dood. that's sexiness right there. totally agree with meats. if you do want to harmonize that a bit though, you'd either have to make the shadows on her face a little bluish (sounds like a lot of work though) or put her in a scene that's a little more beige-ish. shadows pick up colors from the surrounding because of reflected light. for instance shadows outside on a clear sunny day are usually somewhat bluish (b/c the sky's blue). don't worry though. maybe you already knew this stuff, but just thought i'd give ya the gist. cheers man. this one's looking fantastic

[Johann de Venecia]

Looks good. Pretty face :)

I think you'd want to bring her into the bg a bit more though. She looks cut and pasted on there. Even then, you'd want something to connect the two, blue cast light on the face, cooler shadows would do the trick.

Keep it up, Rob. Its looking sweet :)

[isair]

Love the color of the last portrait. Also beautifully rendered. The white is a bit distracting though and the edge needs a bit refining I think. Especially the cheek part, the white makes it pops up even nearer than the nose. Great piece anyway! keep posting more bro.

[Niels23]

Beautiful! Great panting! I very like the colours you used and that background rules! Love the way you painted hair. Good start with colour, keep it up!

[demented]

WOW - really great paint man! can't wait to see more on it - very believable! Keep painting man - this one is coming along excellently!

ciao!

- d.

[Darktwin]

Now that digi painting is very impressive. the skin tone looks really good, wow Oma, your really coming along. I see that your getting down the heads, lets see some more figures. ;P, keep up the good work

[stine]

great digi, oma! really well done! althought the night sky background is a little distracting, because the light on your figure seems to be bright daylight. but other than that really cool painting. great to hear your bridgman books arrived, hope you have fun with them! cheers

stine

[oma]

can't post some attachments anymore :/. my SB hate's me!

[oma]

KingsWorthy > thanks.

Wakkawa > extually the are pretty hard to fix :P. because i fucked up a early stage. I compressed the layers to one JPG file. LOL :P. Thanks for dropping by.

Sith > Nope i didn't knew that stuff allready. :P. gonna use it in my next Portrait. thanks for you helpfull! comments!

Lukavi > thanks for dropping by, realy helpfull comment!

Isair > i will, > happy ? :P.

Ulver > Thanks for you continous support! :D. realy keeps motivating me!

D - > thanks for dropping by, did some other digi today. its still a WIP butt how cares :P.

Darktwin > bought me a bridgman book, still learning from it. just started with the faces again :P. but the body will come later :P.

Stine > Uhu, you are right the ref. that i used was a foto in daylight :P.
and yeah. i have funn with my bridgman book :).

[oma]

okay, I CAN UPLOAD AGAIN... :P.

damnz, didn't scanned my shit. but i will upload my digital only for now!.

i will scan some things later, Sunday iam Going to Rome :D.

oja, that portrait is from Foto ref, it's not cloned ore something. i don't like that., still picking up the collours with the eye dropper, because my knauladge isn't that good about collours.
and it's just my first Total Digital in painter :)

[demented]

Hey man! Thanx for dropping by my book!

painting looks really good. Tough I strongly suggest you try to pick them yourself. Colour in painting doesn't work the same way it does in photos. In painting you need to used complementary colours in order to create contrast, depth and form, but this isn't always true with photos. Take matters into your own hands and think about your colours. You will learn more this way than you will by just picking them. Try it out and keep up the good work dude!

ciao!

- d.

[Niels23]

Hi oma! Colours in this portrait look very nice! Especially like how you painted ear and hair. Maybe I wrong, but think there`s a little trouble with the perspective of the face`s left side. Anyway the painting looks good - very sunny one :) Keep it up!

[Alexandr Pascenko]

wow i really luv the colours on the last one! u make some fast improvements. keep this up man;)

[isair]

yes, i agree with d. don't color pick on the photos. actually which color you chooose for your painting doesn't really matters as long as the value is right. just do as you do with b&w. :) keep up bro.

[Snarfevs]

Definite improvement over 4 pages, your eyes are kinda creepy though. Colour picking off photos is easily spotted and looks unnatural, I concur with isair on working in values only.
Keep up the good work!

[Spats]

You've made nice improvement here! Great job on the portraits.

Keep it up, looking good!

[Beershite]

your're skyrocketing with those digi portaits man! awesome!
Little crit though, the last girl's nose could use some more definition. Now it almost looks like she has no nose.
Ga zo door oma!
ps: moet je even in mijn sketckbook kijken...ik heb je getekend:P

[Supervlieg]

Hey Oma, nice pencil sketches. Very coolio.

I would like to see more digital stuff. Try staying away from the color picker though, it will help your development more if you pick it by your own eye.

And will help you spot and use colors better in your own work.

[Marty666]

Great improvements here! In many of your sketches I notice the left (our right) eye is a bit higher than the other. That may be something to be aware of yourself. The digitals are nicely coloured. Like supervlieg says: don't use the colourpicker on refs. The only reason to do this is to get to learn where colours are found in the picker. Get a couple of photos, probe them using the colour picker and try remembering them. Don't pick a colour and use it on your own paintings, because you won't learn anything from this. Keep em comming!

[stine]

hey oma! glad to hear your rome trip was cool. i second the values-only-suggestion. helps a lot, because you don't get distracted by the huge variety of colors. good to see you're not using plain white for the eyes - the pupils look slightly too small, though. seems like there are some shadows missing (though i don't know your reference). but normally the upper eye lid throws a shadow on the eye ball, the nose throws one and even the upper lip has one on the lower lip. putting those in normally helps a lot "selling" a drawing/painting... anyway, keep it up!

[oma]

D-> Thanks, in the next one i picked the collours myself. and thanks for allways giving me some good advise!

Ulver > Thanks you, eum i can't see much diffrense with the ref. so i maybe the foto is crap :P.

GOBLINSHARK > thank you. love your work !

Isair > thanks, will try to make one in B&W. i can learn a lot from it, never tryed it digitally!

Snarfevs > Thanks for dropping by, and i love you work to, :P. Thanks for your advise.

Spats > thanks for dropping by.

Beershite > thanks for dropping by, ja ik kan het zien. ziet er super vet uit joh!!

Supervlieg > thanks for dropping by, yeah will try in this one.

Marty666 > Realy thanks for that great tip, will try, i will try. :).

Stine > i think thats a ref prob. i can't see some shadows at the ref. will work on it in my next one.


Oke did some studyíng again. :). will not post it, i will post a WIP from a foto ref. i did whit pickking the collours myself :D.

hope you can give me some great advise. and i hope you like it.!

[Lee W]

looking really good ... can't really give you any crits since I am in the same boat .. still trying to paint (I hate dealing with colors)

[Sirithduriel]

Those last few CG's are looking very good, great work going on there!

The last one is looking good so far, though the part at the corner of her lips looks a bit off. I think we should see a bit more roundness in the cheek there, so it's not like her lips suddenly stop. Or perhaps see the actual corner, though I don't know how your ref looks :). Looking forward to seeing progress in that one.

[oma]

OldNoobie > thanks for dropping by.

Sirithduriel > thanks for dropping by.

Pff. it's realy hard to pick the collours myself. i hope you like this one, i think its finnisched, but i don't like it.

Comment en Crits are alway's welcome!

[demented]

hey oma

I think you're making good progress picking the colours on your own. Check out fredflickstone's colour theory tutorial in the fine arts section - it's very helpful and will teach a lot about picking colours. keep picking them by your own, this way you will learn more!

ciao!

- d.

[Snarfevs]

I second demented's comment - good picking. You might want to experiment with introducing a second light source of another colour to get a feel for the contours of the face.

[oma]

D-> thanks for alway's keeping giving me handfull tips.

Snarfevs > thanks for dropping by.

oke, did some realy fast digital face sketch. after some bridgeman study's. :)

oke this one is like 15 min.
hope you like it.