Sith Chamber (Nipple-less nudity?)

[Undefeated]

Just playing it safe with the thread title.

Been a while, but as always any and all comments are welcome.

My comments: there was originally only the one statue, but I added in the other silhouettes to fill it out a bit and add some more character.

Her expression is borderline goofy...but I wanted to avoid the sinister smile.

In case it may matter to some for their crits, she comes from a race forbidden to show their eyes (which may or may not be empty sockets anyway) for spiritual/moral reasons.

Wanna add more character to the far background.

Thanks guys! First time taking advantage of the critique center, I think. :wink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Undefeated/miraluka8.jpg

[Bleys]

This is not so much a crit, but... are they forbidden from wearing more than a thong, belt and hood too? Oh yes, and gloves. it's an interesting choice.

[Undefeated]

Short answer: no, they are not forbidden. :)

[gorillagrin]

The pose is pretty decent.. you captured a good sense of that twist. Compositionally the vertically centered figure and horizontally centered saber are bugging me though.

And come on.. give her some more clothes (or at least some functional ones). That outfit is just ridiculous ;) The hood is nice though. Kind of reminds me of a naughty nun.

[crazyrussian]

No depth, everything is flat...

[Snuggles]

Pretty sweet thus far. The nudity really only seems like a problem to me because it clashes with the hood she's wearing, which seems tailored and flowing in a manner that doesn't say, "and now, sexybody!" Also, the hand in the back, the glove? Looks really awkward and rushed in terms of perspective. It's kind of curious, because the rest of it looks like it got a lot of love. As far as composition goes, if you're going to go for something with vertical horizontal and all straightforward-like, you're going to need s'more symmetry in the background, as the one sided statues seem to throw it off balance.

[Limo]

The hand holding the saber is a little to equal in terms of finger length, try and get someone to show you frontal fist ( or google one up ) and you'll see that the 'skyline' of your knuckles varies, and is not as straight as you're portraying it :) also , the fingers point down too straight, give 'em little turns, so it really looks as if she's holding a cyllindrical ( sp? ) object. I don't really know how to say it correctly, but they're just too straight, I think.

I may be wrong, because I'm not that good in anatomy, but I'm just trying to help, and if I'm wrong, someone please tell me, because I'm kinda doubting myself here.

[Tiki Snakes]

My first thought is that, well, it's the lack of a nipple thing.

Because the way i'm reading the picture, the nipple simply isn't there, rather than being obscured. I assume you intend it to be that the nipple is hidden behind the lightsaber, as it were, but that would leave the girl's nips rather freakishly high up, considering the size of those breasts.

and, yeah, I agree with the above. The top-heavy costume really looks odd. Perhaps she could cover up a little more, or uncover a little more up top. I don't know.

Nice rendering though, in general.

[Vague]

needs more details and texture.

[Mewa]

That outfit isn't very believable. So they cover their eyes for moral reasons, but walk pretty much nude? The pose is great, and the hood looks good, but I think you should add her some funky clothes to go with it.

[Undefeated]

Thanks for the replies, all!

Everyone seems to dislike her state of undress. See, what had happened was, I was basically just blocking in shapes in PS to see what struck me...that became a naked woman, and that became a naked Sith woman. :)

I may slap some kind of clothing on it, but the goal of the excercise for me personally was to work on the female figure in a position I havent really explored before. But I guess she really doesn't have to be totally nakey for that, huh?

And no comments on her facial expression..either its not as bad as I thought or the costume was just THAT ridiculous. :)

Limo: You're totally right about the "skyline". Thanks for chiming in.

Snuggles: Good point on composition. Thanks. As far as the glove, you're right about it being rushed..I literally have that back hand blocked in on about 5 different layers in different positions before I chose that position.

Tiki: Its not that the nipple is going to be obscured, I just left it out at this point.

Hoping for a bit more feedback and suggestions on the background and composition. Thanks for taking the time!

[Breeze]

I personally like what you have here...don't get me wrong...there are a few things here and there that need to be fixed, but overall it's striking. i think your background story makes enough sense to be believable. there are many strange things that go on within cultures that don't make sense to other cultures...so i wouldn't stress about that...you seem to understand the form and what happens when a body twists like that.

the belt needs work...its hard to tell what kind of material it is..you seem to have the lighting down..so just go in and give it some texture.

is her thong(?) attached to the belt? or is it a separate piece..if so you might want to have the stringy thing go up diagonally perpendicular to the belt...it will make for a good focal point.

the saber needs more details... pop in some more highlights...in fact she needs more contrast all over.

now the part that i think needs the most work is the white part of the hood covering her eyes...it's just flat white...it needs some tone.

compositionally...i think there should be something in the lower left corner to bring the eye up through the belt past the saber and into the sith lord in the background...you have smoke there already so you might want to just play on that and enforce it a little more.

good stuff
breeze

[sickelsick]

nice pic man.

the thong she got on has to have that thin waist band thing. so try to wrap one around her hips in a curvey way. i think that would be kool.

the white on the hood seems real bright. i like it, but im wondering what it would look like if i could see some creases in it.

that shadow between the ass cheeks on bottom i think is too dark. try to use a darker skin color.

the white in the pic (thong, hood) i think u should try some kind of red that matches the sword? try that... i dunno wat it would look like tho.

the statue in the back is cool. but the 2 figures behind it just look like the statutes shadows. BG needs more.

i think a little tilt on the sword would be nice. but horizantal, i gotta admit is pretty kool.

those black sides should be like a stone wall or a stone door wit engravings or sumthin?

[Forbidden Angel]

She kind of looks like a nun gone bad. lol

Hmm. Where is the thong's side strap? I thought it'd go up over the hip instead of under the belt.

[Undefeated]

Thanks for all the great crits - I've been tied up this weekend, but at the moment, I'm playing with some things, including tilting the saber a bit. Wanna add a bit more contrast to her form as well.

I dunno, something about the flat white of her hood and thong appeals to me personally, but maybe I'll play with it. And yeah, I also need to fill in the straps to her thong. :)

sickelsick: As far as those black sides, I had in mind to use them as kind of a composition cheat to crop the image somewhat, kind of like what you see on the covers of comics a lot these days. Not sure if I'm going to stick with them or not, though.

Forbidden Angel: I think the "nun-gone-bad" thing must have been in the back of my mind somewhere, yeah. :)

Thanks to all you guys for taking the time, its very much appreciated.

[Egets]

Well I have to agree to most of the ppls comments about clothing, I realise that the starting point is the nudity which you want to be seen so I made such compromise that the body is still showing but its because the garment is floating away from her then I did some other changes as well, these are just suggestions and Im no professional so "take me with grain of seasalt"


Here it is


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2982/suggestionsfornunkz2.jpg

[Hendric VII]

The belt, the hood, the wall, the statue all need more variation in texture. The white is too bright. I don't agree with Egets' choice of green, but I like the idea. The nudity is that big a problem, it make a kind of sense for training. Some more ornamentation might be an interesting idea. Great start.

[AdamDillabo]

no need to resurrect such old threads.