Possible art theft

[c-thru]

I'd appreciate some help identifying a number of images. One or two look like H.R. Giger's work (certainly style), but I'm not sure. They were both used in a third party game/mod, along with what appears to be unlicensed use of UT2004 files/textures. This "game" has nothing to do with UT2k4 so I'm assuming it's copyright infringement, and presumably plagarism.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/LOGHIGH.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/LOGRESER.jpg

These are what appear to be UT2004 textures:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/WELLBOT.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/DOWNTEXB.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/LOCK_IN.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/HANGFLOO.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/HANGROOF.jpg

For instance:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/HANGWALL.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/LOGMINES.jpg

Very UT2004ish:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/MASSDRIV.jpg

No idea where this is from:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/nietzschean_herds/LOGDOWN.jpg

Sorry for the strange request. Some of these may belong to this particular group of individuals, but given that they don't credit anyone or anything, and given how UT2004ish some of it looks, I can't say.

Thanks.

[Ive]

The first one is definetly Royo, but I can't say I've seen any of the other pics...

[sweetoblivion314]

the first one is Luis Royo and the second is a screen cap from The Matrix. I never played UT2k4 so i dont know about that stuff, but ive never seen any of it before, except the one titled LOCK_IN that looks familiar. The last one looks like some of the stuff ive seen on themexp.org but i dont know.

[corky13]

iwell...is it a mod for Unreal Turnament or a comerzialised game ?

[c-thru]

Thanks for the replies. I had a feeling I'd seen Royo's piece before.

As for their game/mod, I don't think it had anything to do with Unreal Tournament; it certainly wasn't a mod for UT2004, hence why I suppose it must be breaking EULA/copyright.

[corky13]

well its quite common that some mod-teams pump theire mods up with some good looking images..not such a BIG problem...but if this is really unrelated to Unreal Tournament and iof these Textures are really taken from there you are right...is it free or do they sell the thing ?

[c-thru]

Still "in development" so they won't have arrived at the commercial stage yet.

It was for a completely different game. I'm not sure what their intentions were with it all, but it sounded like they were trying to make a sequel to a commercial game, or at least heavily mod it. That said, there wasn't much information at all, hence why I wanted to find out where their artwork had come from.

I recall once speaking to a level designer for Quake III Arena, while I was trying to learn to map, and he told me that it wasn't permitted to use Return to Castle Wolfenstein textures in Q3 maps or models (despite both being made by Id Software), because of the EULA. So presumably a similar sort of thing applies here.

[Snarfevs]

The 2nd one I can positively identify as being from the original matrix movie site. The link probably no longer exists but I clearly recall some guy at school saying 'OMG check out this movie called the matrix!' and showing us that pic

[Jabo]

I recall once speaking to a level designer for Quake III Arena, while I was trying to learn to map, and he told me that it wasn't permitted to use Return to Castle Wolfenstein textures in Q3 maps or models (despite both being made by Id Software), because of the EULA. So presumably a similar sort of thing applies here.

This happens alot when ripping id-stuff. A mod-team I was in some years ago had some serious trouble with id because we used one of their walltextures in a UT-level (which is of course a different situation, id and Epic being competitors). These levels where all but commercial, but as long as it's their's, it's still a problem for them. And it's probably ok, from a right-point of view (not from a moral one tho, IMO).