Unpopular opinions that you champion... [Archive]

dfacto

July 8th, 2006, 05:38 PM

You like Titanic Seba? :blah:

-The fresh crop of "rock" bands can kiss my ass.

-Most of today's music artists can kiss my ass. There is a disturbing trend of terrible songs with bad lyrics and atonal bullshit back-beats getting into the charts and climbing near the top, which pisses me off and hurts my ears.

-MTV needs to climb into its time machine and go back to the 80s; back when it actually played music. Come to think of it, that probably isn't an unpopular opinion at all.

-Painter 8 is a lousy program that tries to be half-photoshop and half traditional painting, but instead it's a mediocre, laggy amalgam. And it's too bad there isn't another competent traditional media paint program out there. (except maybe for painter 9 which I've heard good things about, but have yet to try.)

-Van Gogh wasn't all that hot.

-Neither is the Mona Lisa. In fact I think she looks creepy.

-Nascar is not a goddamn sport.

-Baseball is the only game I know that is as boring to play as it is to watch.

-Return of the Jedi is better than Empire Strikes Back. Yes, even with the idiotic Ewoks.

-Lens flare DOES rock, and to hell with you non-believers. And if you disagree, then Greg Martin (http://gallery.artofgregmartin.com/) has an ass cheek you can kiss.

Snuggles

July 8th, 2006, 05:56 PM

2D games > 3D games? Agreed.
To further that, 16bit games with very well made sprites (anything high-budget, late generation SNES that wasn't generated by a computer originally,) tend to visually floor 50% of all PS2 games out there.

Violent media DOES have an affect on average viewers/players, and I think you can't just go to the extreme and say, "None of what I just saw affects anything about me at all in any way." Simply it's hardly enough in healthy humans to be of any concern, and responsibility -does- indeed rest with parents.

I like singers with "annoyingly" high or grating voices. Especially the Japanese ones.

If Tails isn't in Super Smash Brawl, I'm rather apathetic about whether Sonic makes an appearance.

Cute things and meaningless fluff ROCKS.

'Angry' rock groups in the last few years are just as annoyingly dramatic as the decidedly "Emo" Linkin Park. Fans just think being aggressive and destructive with the things y'need to take to therapy is somehow better than being self destructive about them.

aesir

July 8th, 2006, 06:12 PM

keanu reeves is a good actor.

nofingers

July 8th, 2006, 07:02 PM

Super Smash Brothers is not the best fighting game

Masterbation is not a sin

2pac is not the greatest rapper to ever live

Luigi is better than Mario

Budweiser, Miller, and Coors taste like piss

And, there is no such thing as God

Shamagim

July 8th, 2006, 07:11 PM

-I really don´t think Jack Black is that funny, he´s funny, but his movies are too......normal. ( yes, even "Nacho libre" )

-Soda drinks ( carbonated) make no sense...Are they good because they make you burp??...

-I really like Harry potter´s books, but some stuff bothers me:

In the book, most "magic" kids get scouted when they display some magical power without a wand...So let´s say using a wand and some magical words somehow channels the power...but woudn´t be cooler if they somehow tryed to do things whitout a wand?...just saying, because the "fighting scenes" are not more mystical than using a gun.

-What´s with reality shows???? That´s one thing popular that I dislike, becuase is popular for the sake of being popular, is like taking the magic away from making a real show.

-Football is very very boring to watch...I prefer Rugby...But then again, I really don´t watch tv anymore :).

-I don´t believe in the "the end justifys the means" saying, the worst things in society and history are beacuse of the belief you can justify things.

-I really don´t like religion, any religion....I haven´t since I´m 12...but I´m not so sure that´s popular nowadays.......I just feel like what I am and what I believe became trendy in the last 5 years :(

That´s all I guess...now back to work :).

Jabo

July 8th, 2006, 07:39 PM

Fish doesn't taste good!

Hilarious thread.

Elwell

July 8th, 2006, 08:03 PM

Hilarious thread.
Yes, that probably is a fairly unpopular opinion...

Number_6

July 8th, 2006, 09:31 PM

Violent media DOES have an affect on average viewers/players, and I think you can't just go to the extreme and say, "None of what I just saw affects anything about me at all in any way." Simply it's hardly enough in healthy humans to be of any concern, and responsibility -does- indeed rest with parents.

I think I agree with some of that. Not sure about all of it though.

I like singers with "annoyingly" high or grating voices.

GEDDY LEE FTW!!!

-80's synth-pop is good (don't you want me baby, don't you want me ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oh, don't you want me baby, etc.)

NoSeRider

July 8th, 2006, 11:01 PM

Unpopular opinions that you champion...

Design is more important then painting and rendering.

Bammer

July 8th, 2006, 11:56 PM

Nature is insanely overrated. Urban sprawl and all that jazz is not in any way a bad thing.

Republicans are no more or less awful then the other guys.

The lighting in Pixar movies is crass and shitty.

Picard is cool.

I am normal, and you are normal, and everyone we know at home and work and school... they are pretty damn normal too, even though they all think they are crazy and unique and special.

BlackGuy

July 9th, 2006, 12:16 AM

sometimes it DOES matter how cool it looks...

Senira

July 9th, 2006, 01:12 AM

3D animation is a cold and unfeeling medium that tries too hard to imitate what I go to animated movies to escape, and even though 3D animation will no doubt be my future profession, I'll continue to hate it to the depths of my soul. ^_^

Also: Finding Nemo kinda sucked. DEAL WITH IT.
( Cars was great if it makes you feel better.)

Ilaekae

July 9th, 2006, 01:24 AM

"Design is more important then painting and rendering." [NoSeRider]

DITTO!

and...

All Republicans right now in the US suck monkey dick.

...and all self-proclaimed "Good Christians" are glad they do because it's a cheap way to acquire more video porn to sell on ebay.

It's likely there are no more than a few thousand (if that) true geniuses in any creative field in the entire world. And you probably ain't one of 'em.

Any one who interrupts another person while they're making a point is an asshole.

Intolerance of ANYTHING is a positive sign of gutter-licking stupidity.

DavePalumbo

July 9th, 2006, 01:37 AM

Milk is the greatest non-alcoholic beverage on the face of the earth

oh, does this one get a... Ka-BAM! Yes it does! Take it a notch further and say beer tastes nasty.

some of the stuff you guys are posting doesn't really seem that boat rocking to me though. I will say (in light of what I'm told is an insanely fanatic following) that American Idol is god-awful. Though I'd say that about so many hugely popular tv-programs and popular music, this just happens to combine them.

sweetoblivion314

July 9th, 2006, 02:09 AM

oh, does this one get a... Ka-BAM! Yes it does! Take it a notch further and say beer tastes nasty.

some of the stuff you guys are posting doesn't really seem that boat rocking to me though. I will say (in light of what I'm told is an insanely fanatic following) that American Idol is god-awful. Though I'd say that about so many hugely popular tv-programs and popular music, this just happens to combine them.

Beer is nasty, tastes like shite, especialy american beers with that weird tingy taste you get.. there i said it!!!!

.....well except guiness that is the greatest tasting thing on earth! Guiness and an Irish whiskey neat and im happy :)

Rascar Capac

July 9th, 2006, 02:25 AM

Shamagim

July 9th, 2006, 02:50 AM

-Beer tastes like wet bread and smells terrible, people say that there is nothing like a cold beer.....because as cold as it gets the less taste it has.......If you want to be refreshed drink cold water!!

- Most alcoholic drinks are incredibly bitter and unpleasant to drink, to evryone I ask " why do you drink that bitter shit", they just tell me that you have to train untill the taste suits you........wtf?!

- What´s so interesting about watching a car race? ( waiting for an accident...aren´t ya)

-Cigarrets suck!!, I don´t really care about the cancer, my father smokes at least 2 pack a day...when I was a kid I needed some of that innalator for asma, because the "doctor" coudnt tell the difference between true asma and having to breath that much smoke everyday.

-Animal health care is poor, and anyone that ask the veterinarian to "put his pet to sleep" just to avoid having to pay for more medical expenses should be banned from having any other pet ever again, avoiding the problem with a living thing that not only is your responsability,( also in some cases your pet might even trust you with his survival) IS brutal and a lack of character IMO.

I like this thread :).

Snuggles

July 9th, 2006, 03:10 AM

Design is more important then painting and rendering.

I've gotta bow to this one. I think about that a lot, lately.

Howsabout this one? The real problem with politics in the US nowadays is a complete lack of moderation.

Yiako

July 9th, 2006, 06:17 AM

Americans are not stupidier/ignorant/arrogant than other people.

Talent do exists

Women drive worse than men

Celtic music sucks

NoSeRider

July 9th, 2006, 06:56 AM

Americans are not stupidier/ignorant/arrogant than other people.

I'm even more cynical then that.

People are willful conceited control freaks. You're goal should be to be willful without all that other stuff.

Oh, and men have personality disorders. I prefer to be around women.

Number_6

July 9th, 2006, 07:21 AM

dogfood

July 9th, 2006, 07:52 AM

Intolerance of ANYTHING is a positive sign of gutter-licking stupidity.
I've always loved the irony of this one. :D

Milk and cookies rock.

asoir

July 9th, 2006, 08:43 AM

Bigger is MOST DEFINATELY better.

waronmars

July 9th, 2006, 08:57 AM

edit: Damn, Dogfood! Too fast for me!

Better not waste a post...

Something that really shits me is how intolerant people are of smokers now. People inhale loads of car exhaust living near roads and around cities, with shit in it that's ten times worse than what's in a cigarette, is some tobacco smoke going to kill you? Get the fuck over it, you pussies. (I don't smoke, for the record). The other side to that is that I hate people leaving cigarette butts everywhere. It's like a used bandaid, I don't want to see it.

Going on from that I think littering is really disgusting and people need to stop being so damn lazy and walk to a bin, or put it in a pocket or something till they can.

Excessive political correctness shits me. Learn to take a fucking joke. Also people who get offended by swearing can go take a jump.

[/rant]

paberu

July 9th, 2006, 09:22 AM

I usually get trashed for these opinions:

2D games > 3D games
Trigun > Cowboy Bebop

Infinit

July 9th, 2006, 11:06 AM

I am normal, and you are normal, and everyone we know at home and work and school... they are pretty damn normal too, even though they all think they are crazy and unique and special.

absolutely what I think

I like Jesus and the way he thought about life
but I am NOT christian or religious in any way, AT ALL!

I also think that Jesus would not want the churches to exist in the way they do today

ah.heng

July 9th, 2006, 11:08 AM

cowboy bebop wasn't that great.

matrix 1 was OK. matrix 2 and 3 sucked.

LOTR 1 was boring. 2 and 3 were great, but seeing frodo go on holiday with the elves wasn't a necessity.

australia is NOT a better place to live than singapore.

pepsi is better than coke.
carbonated drinks suck.

chlorinated, flouridated tap water tastes better than beer.

you don't need an air conditioner during summer.

english isn't the best language in the world.

the death penalty is a necessity.

Bammer

July 9th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Bowlin

July 9th, 2006, 12:27 PM

"Originally Posted by Ilaekae
Any one who interrupts another person while they're..."

See you in the Thunderdome Old Man!

Hahahahah... (continues with evil laughter)

Ilaekae

July 9th, 2006, 12:33 PM

You die today, youngling fart machine...

glynn james

July 9th, 2006, 01:08 PM

Star Wars: Episode I is really, really, really good!

Modern car design is bland and generic.(and they look like eggs!)

LotR: The Two Towers was boring.

arctic monkeys are generic

Gamecube = Xbox graphics wise (stupid wii comparisons to xbox)

People who cut down trees where I live suck!

The majority of red wine tastes like kids medicine.

Super Smash Bros is better and more fun than Super Smash Bros Melee!

Modern housing in the uk is the McDonalds of architecture.

Gory

July 9th, 2006, 03:01 PM

Halo is the shittiest FPS and game ever created. (It wouldn't be as bad if it didn't get so much credit)

FPSs in general are redundant and boring.

So are GTA games.

Games were better before N64 came out.

FF6 is better than FF7. By a long shot.

It's pop, not soda.

If Duchamp were alive, I'd want to kick his ass for ruining art.

Art school is bull shit and totally unecessary.

Soccer rocks. (I'm American, obviously)

My dad's music is approximately 50x better than the shit we have to deal with. (60's and 70's)

I particularly hate Jane's Addiction.

Taking Back Sunday, New Found Glory, and all those bands sound EXACTLY ALIKE.

People with tattoos of different languages on their bodies are dumb shits.

"African American" is NOT politically correct. Ever hear of the Carribean, jack asses?

Political correctness is stupid anyway.

Welfare does more harm than good.

High taxes hurt citizens that actually try to make an honest living.

The United Nations never accomplishes anything.

Mustangs are pieces of shit.

If you're too cheap to buy a real sports car you probably should be spending that money on more important things like your family, you neglectful ass.

Just because you put a spoiler on that civic and painted stripes on it doesn't mean it isn't a piece of shit. See above.

Cars are *NOT* an investment, they're a tool. (Well, more of a fact, really)

seba_boi

July 9th, 2006, 03:03 PM

keanu reeves is a good actor.
Hahahahaha!.... *wipes tear from eye*

J/K...

sweetoblivion314

July 9th, 2006, 03:06 PM

People need to stop complaining about beach erosion when if they hadnt have built a city there there wouldnt be a problem in the first place. The beach would be the same size just a few longitudinal minutes over.

Frodo and Sam are the weakest point in the LOTR books.

Philadelphia, PA tap water will not kill you and its very tasty.
NJ tap water will kill you.

NJ must hand out free land to all the bad drivers from every other state or something.

FFX was amazing.... untill you finish it then the ending ruins the entire game.

ah.heng

July 9th, 2006, 03:25 PM

FF7,8, X, X-2 does not suck.
FF1 sucks.
FF12 is the best of the series.

the new star wars movies are better than the old star wars movies.
the entire star wars thing is overhyped and not really that interesting at all.
star trek is more entertaining.

kawasaki bikes are ugly.

oriental girls are prettier.

dogs are stupid and smelly and not worth the effort.

the ipod is not worth it.
neither is the zen.

young paddy1

July 9th, 2006, 03:32 PM

Intolerance as long as it isn't taken to the extreme is a necessary part of human culture, without it we'd all be the same. (I don't just mean intolerance of people, everybody has something or someone they are intolerant of, it promotes choice.)

All modern british light rock groups sound the same.

The cheesier a film the better

Just because a film has subtitles it is not necessarily an intelectual feast that only the uninformed believe to be pretentious shit.

The porn industry exploits men.

Pink Floyd is overated.

It's Aitch you fuckwits not Haitch.

Theoretical physics and unecessary mathematics are the largest waste of money in the academic world, go and find out if you're right don't just sit there thinking about it.

DavePalumbo

July 9th, 2006, 04:46 PM

Americans are not stupidier/ignorant/arrogant than other people

well, half of us anyhow :)

Philadelphia, PA tap water will not kill you and its very tasty

yes!

and I must say, except possibly in social situations, I just don't enjoy playing video games anymore

Number_6

July 9th, 2006, 06:40 PM

People inhale loads of car exhaust living near roads and around cities, with shit in it that's ten times worse than what's in a cigarette,

Given the quality of catalytic converters these days, I have dificulty believing that. Can you post a source for it?

FFX was amazing.... untill you finish it then the ending ruins the entire game.

...

Seriously. Dot dot dot.

-Akira and Ghost in the Shell were overrated (though I kind of like GITS:SAC. GITS 2 was all right as well)

Flake

July 9th, 2006, 09:25 PM

Given the quality of catalytic converters these days, I have dificulty believing that. Can you post a source for it?

I don't but you can try an experiment.

Find yourself a nice unventilated enclosed area, stand in this area for 24 hours with both of the following..

1) A group of smoking smokers, as many as you like, 40-a-day guys preferably.
2) A medium sized family car with the engine running.

See which one kills ya first :teeth:

Disclaimer: Don't..

DavePalumbo

July 9th, 2006, 11:49 PM

Cwn Annwn

July 10th, 2006, 12:28 AM

I don't but you can try an experiment.

Find yourself a nice unventilated enclosed area, stand in this area for 24 hours with both of the following..

1) A group of smoking smokers, as many as you like, 40-a-day guys preferably.
2) A medium sized family car with the engine running.

See which one kills ya first :teeth:

Disclaimer: Don't..

Um, hate to break it to you.

Acute carbon monoxide poisoning isn't quite the same as long term exposure to potent carcinogens.

Just a hint.

Besides, I thought this thread was about championing unpopular ideas, not blatantly incorrect notions about scientific method. :teeth:

So back on topic now;

- Cabbage smells good when cooked.
- Disobedient dogs are great.
- Anime/manga/eastern comics do not look all the same.
- People need to be responsible for their actions, whether good or bad. To hell with the climate of litigation.

NoSeRider

July 10th, 2006, 06:28 AM

I believe you can learn as much about the human figure from observing comic book artists like Neal Adams and John Buscema as you can from observing N C Wyeth and Howard Pyle.

I believe Iain Mccaig draws like John Buscema.

Keep in mind I still believe design is more important then painting and rendering......so I'm talking about design, not painting.

Besides, Justin Sweet said John Buscema was his first major influence. When I say that people look at me like I'm depraved......well, Justin Sweet says that too.......so, up yours.

Endtroducer

July 10th, 2006, 07:23 AM

- If you've been given the privilege of internet access, do not abuse it by raping the English language (or any other for that matter) through a complete disregard for syntax, spelling, and punctuation.

- The so-called "greatest" generation has no room to complain about our cultural differences when the world we're about to inherit is in such poor condition as a result of their massive failures.

- Tony Danza is the boss.

- Metallica is not only the most overrated band of all time, but the greatest crime against music ever committed.

- The American Education system is a farce. Not only does it not adequately teach students the knowledge they need, but the administrative processes and absurd regulations do not properly prepare people for the realities of post-education life. (Yay alliteration!)

- Chances are, if we are the same age, I am more knowledgeable about movies and music than you could ever hope to be.

- Richard Kiel would have made a better Incredible Hulk than Lou Ferrigno.

- Sean Connery was, and still is, the only true James Bond.

Crane

July 10th, 2006, 07:28 AM

oriental girls are prettier.

A-fucking-men to that. Oriental people (men included) are the most beautiful people in the world.

Pets should be loved and treated exactly the same as if they are your own children

I like animals better than humans, if i ever have kids i want them to start off as kittens or puppys because everytime i hear a baby cry i wanna throw it thru a window. not that i would...sadly we don't live in a post apocalyptic world were chavs are hunted as game...oh well..

MarkHarchar

July 10th, 2006, 08:14 AM

Sunscreen causes cancer, not proper use of the sun.

cotron

July 10th, 2006, 08:19 AM

circus peanuts are fucking delicious! and I have a thing for shit food like chef boyardee, too.

and.......

alex ross isn't as good as the hype he has.

Alday.J

July 10th, 2006, 09:45 AM

- I hate Yogurt, Yogurts are for the weaks.

- The world is divided in two categories: the men and the yoghourt eaters.

- People who think Duchamp "ruined" art are Yogurt eaters. :)

Infinit

July 10th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Duchamp's works and oppinions are likely to be the best statement about moder art I have ever hear about

and art would be more boring without it

NoSeRider

July 10th, 2006, 11:47 AM

Overly competitive people suck, because all they do is say grandiose things about themselves and do what they can to make you feel inferior.

Life should not be a competition.....assuming you want to be human. OK, well try to be better then human.

Unpopular opinions that you champion...

Mamoth

July 10th, 2006, 11:55 AM

Men should'nt have more than one girlfriend at a time.

Spam sound like funny jokes to me.

armando

July 10th, 2006, 12:41 PM

As has been said before, 16-bit and earlier games are way better than the new 3D shit. The only good games still being made are for the gameboys. The idea of the emersive movie-like escapist game experience is retarded.

CaptainInsano

July 10th, 2006, 12:56 PM

3DS Max is better than Maya.

The characters in Lost are actually dead and in purgatory.

Are You Being Served is funnier than Fawlty Towers

Snuggles

July 10th, 2006, 12:58 PM

Men should'nt have more than one girlfriend at a time.

Is it popular opinion that it's okay for guys to have multiple girlfriends where you live!? :$

Being overly pessimistic doesn't mean that you're 'smart' and you understand the 'unfair way our world works.' It means you're just afraid of getting hurt by actually giving people a fair chance and opening yourself up a little.

Hating 'stupid people' is really an annoying and thoughtless trend. Most 'stupid people' jokes and arguments really only stack up to either, "This person has inconvenienced me in a minor way, they are stupid and should be eaten," or "This person made a choice that represents a lack of common sense, and if you haven't learned something through an external source that may or may not have been offered to you, you are teh dumbs."
The funny thing is, when the lady with the "I see stupid people" bumper sticker gets done watching Carlos Mencia, she piles her kid into her SUV, no seat belt, speeds, cuts 6 people off while driving, and leaves her 5 year old son to wander alone in WalMart while she gets a pedicure.

Giving somebody money doesn't give you the right to MAKE THEM A DOORMAT. If you're paying for a nice dinner, it doesn't mean you have the right to be an ass about your food. It means you have the right to make valid concerns. I have a friend who works at a dollar theater. Frankly, I'm shocked what people will go through and say to get refunds or freebies on their TWO DOLLAR TICKETS.

White Rose

July 10th, 2006, 01:01 PM

Black jelly beans are the best :3

Mamoth

July 10th, 2006, 01:33 PM

Not openly but yes there is a lot of infidelity in my surounding.

nicolas

July 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM

sailor moon ROXXXXs!!!!!!!!!!

asoir

July 10th, 2006, 02:06 PM

DeviantArt isn't "a place to share art" it's a craphole. And i'm damn glad only a little gets filtered out to here.

dogfood

July 10th, 2006, 03:54 PM

Are You Being Served is funnier than Fawlty Towers
Are you free Mr. Humphries?

I'm free!

White Rose

July 10th, 2006, 04:06 PM

Are you free Mr. Humphries?

I'm free!

AHHHH!!!
Im in love with that show.. i wonder if i can get the entire dvd collection on that. ah so many good memories of that show ^_^

Snuggles

July 10th, 2006, 04:37 PM

DeviantArt isn't "a place to share art" it's a craphole. And i'm damn glad only a little gets filtered out to here.

I don't think that's much of an unpopular opinion, here at least. ;)

MrBobMarley

July 10th, 2006, 04:39 PM

That a lot of those "Give us your money!" and "Buy our miracle spring water!" big money churches make all christians look like pompous, close minded dolts. Being a christian, I don't like being represented to the public by these old people that are just out to make their pockets fatter.

Street Fighter II for snes is the best fighting game ever.

Joe Mad is not just some "japanamation" wannabe artist, I don't care what you say.

Dane Cook is funny (although it seems also a thief)

My 1965 mustang is not a piece of shit

Family is very important

Mr Bean's tv show was funny

Jamie Foxx and Kanye West both suck equally, don't tell me otherwise.

vigostar

July 10th, 2006, 05:41 PM

Nintendo is not the best, it was the best but, has NOT been the best in like 15 years after super mario 3 it all went downhill..

I think american Idol sucks huge elephant balls.

Discovery, history, tlc and spike tv are all the channels a person needs..

boxing sucks... MMA rocks!

Helium Macaroni

July 10th, 2006, 05:57 PM

Shamagim

July 10th, 2006, 07:12 PM

That due to years of bad policy, exorbitant national debt, negative international opinion, economic unsustainability, lagging education investment, and an apathetic electorate, America is beginning a slow, steady decline from its role as a military, cultural, and economic superpower.

That´s an unpopular opinion?...I think by now is quite evident, it had to happen eventually.

For the record, I don´t think is a good thing. Changes will be made, etc....Just hope nothing bad happens in the transition.

Helium Macaroni

July 10th, 2006, 07:39 PM

I also don't necessarily think its good either.. but I think its true, and its happened to empires throughout history.

And since when are bad yet true things popular? =)

Snuggles

July 10th, 2006, 10:05 PM

I also don't necessarily think its good either.. but I think its true, and its happened to empires throughout history.

There are so many comparisons you can make between the US now and the Roman Empire it's not even funny. >:D

Helium Macaroni

July 10th, 2006, 10:27 PM

There are so many comparisons you can make between the US now and the Roman Empire it's not even funny. >:D

Heh, I was watching Gladiator yesterday and I decided to look up the real history on Marcus Aurelius and Commodus. Amazingly it parrallels many current historical and present day trends.. funny.

BlueMech

July 10th, 2006, 11:50 PM

. Titanic was deserving all its Oscar Awards...

. 2D games > 3D games...

. Evanescene and Panic At The Disco are not that great...

Panic! is a TERRIBLE band, I hated them back when they were the All-American Rejects and about 50 other shitty bands. Titanic however, deserved nothing but to be lost at sea.

My most unpopular opinion is that Black People should be called Coloured. It honestly sounds less offensive too me, and most black people are more brown than black.

Some more: Carlos Mencia is no way funny or edgy, he'd be annoying if he weren't so pathetic.
PokeMon still kicks ass and I think it's a very good idea for me to buy 120 1" figurines on eBay in the next week.

The batmobile in Batman Begins is the worst batmobile any human being has ever even thought to conceive. People who have embarked on missions to make worse batmobiles have returned home scarred and crying. The casting of satan from heaven was actually about Satan jokingly liking it, God couldn't stand the comment even in joke. I honestly cannot comprehend anyone liking that god awful excuse for a vehicle.

ElvisMcVegas

July 11th, 2006, 12:29 AM

Firefox really isnt that great of a browser.

Mexicans and Black People sometimes have an acrid odor that accompanies them, and its not BO.

Final Fantasy series and GTA are terrible franchises.

America is on its way to becoming a fascist regime that will be toppled by china's might.

Men and Women are not equal, men are better at somethings and women are better at other things.

being a republican or democrat is dumb, you should decide based on the issue not what the party is.

McDonalds is the worst food in the world.

Lord of the Rings is over-rated

The DaVinci Code is over-rated

sweetoblivion314

July 11th, 2006, 12:54 AM

The batmobile in Batman Begins is the worst batmobile any human being has ever even thought to conceive. People who have embarked on missions to make worse batmobiles have returned home scarred and crying. The casting of satan from heaven was actually about Satan jokingly liking it, God couldn't stand the comment even in joke. I honestly cannot comprehend anyone liking that god awful excuse for a vehicle.

Thats not exactly an unpopular oppinion. Almost every fan of the Tim Burton movies hates the new batmobile. I for one like it. While the batmobile from Batman and Batman: Returns is the coolest looking car known to man, I never thought it was practical. A tank is the most practical of vehicles for batman to ride in and they kinda designed a car tank hybrid that works well for his purposes, and made sense. I mean seriously tim burtons batmobile is so low that it wouldnt be able to go over speed bumps. The new one can jump over chasms (the actual car they build could fall from 30 feet without any damage to the car). The new movie was all about substance over style and the batmobile i think epitimized that.

BlueMech

July 11th, 2006, 01:02 AM

Thats not exactly an unpopular oppinion. Almost every fan of the Tim Burton movies hates the new batmobile. I for one like it. While the batmobile from Batman and Batman: Returns is the coolest looking car known to man, I never thought it was practical. A tank is the most practical of vehicles for batman to ride in and they kinda designed a car tank hybrid that works well for his purposes, and made sense. I mean seriously tim burtons batmobile is so low that it wouldnt be able to go over speed bumps. The new one can jump over chasms (the actual car they build could fall from 30 feet without any damage to the car). The new movie was all about substance over style and the batmobile i think epitimized that.

That thing couldn't even turn and had so many stupid chunklets to it. How can you like something God ruiined all our lives over?!?

Here's another one: Opera isn't really that great of a browser! Haha!

Main Loop

July 11th, 2006, 01:40 AM

Mexicans and Black People sometimes have an acrid odor that accompanies them, and its not BO.

haha wtf?

sweetoblivion314

July 11th, 2006, 02:00 AM

That thing couldn't even turn and had so many stupid chunklets to it. How can you like something God ruiined all our lives over?!?

haha, agree to disagree :)

Orange juice with any amount of pulp is disgusting.

cotron

July 11th, 2006, 04:35 AM

Mexicans and Black People sometimes have an acrid odor that accompanies them, and its not BO.

White people smell like bologna too, so I've heard.

I guess this thread is a good place for these unpopular opinions of yours, cause that's a shitty statement... and if you can't figure out why, just explain it to your nonwhite friends.

Shamagim

July 11th, 2006, 08:46 AM

Chilll guys :), you are suppose to disagree, maybe this thread could work as training to be more tolerant, cool and be able to explain things in the right way.

As for racial odors...it doesn´t have to do with race, is what they normally eat in their daily lifes...the fact that races in america a clan like makes them share a common idea about how they should their lifes, and that includes food.

As cotron said, the standard suburb guy smells like coffee and rotten milk to people who dont share the same eating habits that he does.

Humans are smelly creatures too.

Lord Dubu

July 11th, 2006, 08:59 AM

"Big Trouble in Little China" is the greatest cinematic masterpiece of ALL time.

Flat chested women are automatically twice as hot as well endowed women.

and

Spam, KimChee and Tofu are the only ingredients necessary to make a delicious soup.

GriNGo

July 11th, 2006, 11:19 AM

Being overly pessimistic doesn't mean that you're 'smart' and you understand the 'unfair way our world works.' It means you're just afraid of getting hurt by actually giving people a fair chance and opening yourself up a little. - so fucking true snuggles!

- chicks dig hot bodies, no matter what kind of feelings you emanate or anything.

wookiedabo

July 11th, 2006, 11:45 AM

"Big Trouble in Little China" is the greatest cinematic masterpiece of ALL time.

FINALLY. knew there was someone out there.

Spam, KimChee and Tofu are the only ingredients necessary to make a delicious soup.

no one has ever gone so far up and then so far down in my estimations that quickly, ever.

-shakespeares sonnets are actually pretty fascinating.

Mamoth

July 11th, 2006, 11:48 AM

Flat chested women are automatically twice as hot as well endowed women.

Big boobs are not what make a girl look great and hot.
all a question of balance.

evildisco

July 11th, 2006, 11:54 AM

-Fuctionality is overrated.

-Israelis should be relocated to either of Earth's poles.

-Russia is heading towards USSR 2 the revenge and I support it.

-A vast percentage of assholes on the freeway are young asians with dark colored BMW.

-Chinese people fail at drivering.

Lord Dubu

July 11th, 2006, 11:56 AM

no one has ever gone so far up and then so far down in my estimations that quickly, ever.

Try it man!

Ingredients:
1 Block Hard Tofu
1 Can Spam
3 Cups of Sun (Cut-leaf cabbage) Kimchee

Destructions
Dice the tofu into half-inch cubes.
Ditto the Spam
Dice up the Kimchee, but save the juice.

Pour all of that into a pot, with the kimchee juice. Add water or chicken stock for broth. Simmer for an hour or so.

Serve it Up
Put a bunch of rice in a bowl, pour the jigae (soup) on top of that.

Freakin' ambrosia man!!!

CaptainInsano

July 11th, 2006, 12:41 PM

Try it man!

Ingredients:
1 Block Hard Tofu
1 Can Spam
3 Cups of Sun (Cut-leaf cabbage) Kimchee

Destructions
Dice the tofu into half-inch cubes.
Ditto the Spam
Dice up the Kimchee, but save the juice.

Pour all of that into a pot, with the kimchee juice. Add water or chicken stock for broth. Simmer for an hour or so.

Serve it Up
Put a bunch of rice in a bowl, pour the jigae (soup) on top of that.

Freakin' ambrosia man!!!

This would be a great addition to the Starving Artists Cookbook (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57863&highlight=cookbook)thread :dead:

Snuggles

July 11th, 2006, 08:38 PM

-Fuctionality is overrated.

Hell yeah! BRING ON THE BUCKLES AND BELTS! High heels exist as a testament to this fact.

Darktwin

July 11th, 2006, 08:55 PM

sailor moon ROXXXXs!!!!!!!!!!

Hell NAAHH, Just watch porn for the TnA, don't waist your pervertedness on a lame anime

Darktwin

July 11th, 2006, 09:02 PM

Firefox really isnt that great of a browser.

Mexicans and Black People sometimes have an acrid odor that accompanies them, and its not BO.

WTF, lol, thats to funny, there is truth to this, but I believe this effects everyone, its just what your sences are used to, me thinks. This thread is awesome by the way, clever idea.

ElvisMcVegas

July 12th, 2006, 04:20 PM

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention, I'm half mexican so its not being racist, because anytime I visit my family in El Paso, they kind of smell. Also its not all of them just some of the time.

LaPalida

July 12th, 2006, 05:23 PM

boxing sucks... MMA rocks!

amen brother

Undertow

July 12th, 2006, 06:43 PM

Michael Turner is an over rated hack.
(quick edit)
Dragon Ball Z sucks my anus.

BlueMech

July 12th, 2006, 10:02 PM

Flat chested women are automatically twice as hot as well endowed women.

Women without boobs are considered women??

I love how worked up people are getting over the odor thing.

And Undertow, I'll extend your DBZ thing to go so far as to say Akira Toriyama sucks anus.

Snarfevs

July 13th, 2006, 01:39 AM

voice is an abysmal communication medium

Lord Dubu

July 13th, 2006, 08:23 AM

Women without boobs are considered women??

Keira Knightly anyone?

glynn james

July 13th, 2006, 12:45 PM

Keira Knightly anyone?

Here in the UK the newspapers are full of Keira Knightly anorexia crap. :/

ILickSquirrels

July 13th, 2006, 12:53 PM

-NASCAR DOES indeed suck. Rally Cross, however, I have respect for.
-Alcohol and intoxication confuse me. Alcoholic drinks taste terrible (until you aquire a taste for it, supposedly) and I would much rather drink anything without alcohol. But to drink them to get drunk and be disoriented? Why not spin in a chair for a while? Don't they end up with the same results?
-Anime/Manga isn't necessarily a bad thing. Its a style of art, and just happens to be a popular one right now. Its not my personal preference of art, and I really could care less for the type of humor that I've seen in alot of it. But I still regard it as an art/animation style.
-Squirrels are fun to watch.
'Nuff said.

asoir

July 13th, 2006, 01:11 PM

Keira Knightly is the only women on the planet that screams "MUG!"

Undertow

July 13th, 2006, 07:07 PM

The lead singer of System of a Down sounds like a dying goat.
Reese Witherspoons face makes me angry.

ColdKodiak

July 14th, 2006, 06:35 AM

The Republican party is made up of a bunch of corrupt old twats

The Democrat party is made up of a bunch of egotistical no-nothings

Bush is probably smarter than most of the people on this forum

Invading Iraq wasn't a bad idea, it was just done wrong

Israel isn't that bad, at least not worse than its neighbors, and does nothing worse than the U.S. has ever done/does

The U.N. is defunct

The War on Terrorism makes sense

China will not surpass the U.S. in might anytime while we're alive

Japan isn't that great

France and the French are kind of cool

So too the Russians

Anime is usually bad

Star Trek is cool

The 80s sucked big time

Italian food is terrible (except for American pizzas)

Dan.v.D.

July 14th, 2006, 08:34 AM

ca.org is in many aspects the messiest thing out there and it's only getting worse. but still there's something that keeps it going :P

dogfood

July 14th, 2006, 09:02 AM

People who disagree with one are often more valuable than those who agree.

Growth and comfort are opposites.

blog

July 14th, 2006, 10:31 AM

Italian food is terrible (except for American pizzas)

oh noez! :( Its TOTALLY the other way around!

Gloominati

July 14th, 2006, 11:02 AM

ROFL, great thread so here are mine:

-The difference between all the beer customers isn't that big, well not big enough to say: this beer tastes good and that beer tastes like shit

-same with cigarettes

-ouzo tastes always like shit,always

-believing in any kind of religion is good, because it makes dying easier

-religion is the MOST stupid invention in the whole world, because there is not one reason to really believe in it (if you believe nevertheless see point above)

more to come

Shamagim

July 14th, 2006, 12:33 PM

People who disagree with one are often more valuable than those who agree.

Growth and comfort are opposites.

That´s why I like this thread :).

- I second the Bush thing, people just like to look for every single meaningless mistake to make fun of him......And yet, I still don´t like him ( but is not my country, so it really doesn´t matter if I like him or not)

- A trip to a forest can be sometimes more visually refreshing than going to an art gallery

- Everything is art as long as it means more than it usually does. ( that don´t mean you can sell it...but then again you CAN sell everything)

- Cat´s are a much better company than dogs....I still like dogs though :).

- There is not such a thing as a "good person", at least not in the way we commonly think.

- Broccoli is very tasty al dente and with a little lemon.

- Helping the "helpless" can be often be confused with pitying them and that is what keeps them down.

- There is not a worst feeling that knowing that people pity you for any reason, except for self-pity.

- Nothing is random, we just don´t want to figure it out ( too complex)

nicolas

July 14th, 2006, 12:47 PM

Hell NAAHH, Just watch porn for the TnA, don't waist your pervertedness on a lame anime

actually I was refering to the clever plots. But whatever rings your bell mate ;)

Shamagim

July 14th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Yup, sailor moon was funny, exciting and I enjoyed the plott despite of being simple ( at least the one of the first season).

I just hated that I had to hide the fact that I actually liked the show as a kid, just becasue it had a wider marked for girls.

Gloominati

July 14th, 2006, 01:31 PM

okay I'll say it:

DBZ is not that bad at all, it's dumb but entertaining!!!

Akira Toriyama- is the man (okay one of THE men), when it comes to inking and watercolors!

and now hate me!

Senira

July 14th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Puppies are ugly and annoying.

Aqua was one of the best bands EVER.

Laurell K Hamilton is quite possibly one of the worst writers I've ever seen. (Yet I read all of her Merry Gentry Novels. It's a horrifically guilty pleasure.)

The NAACP is stuck up, narrow-minded, and needs to move beyond the 1950's. (And yes, I'm black.)

markwagner

July 14th, 2006, 02:23 PM

You are responsible for your own happiness.

~M

glynn james

July 14th, 2006, 02:50 PM

Jackie Chan Adventures is awesome, especially Hak Foo!

young paddy1

July 14th, 2006, 04:54 PM

Just because you are festivally plump doesn't mean you can't kick the crap out of some overly flexible black belt karate fanatic who keeps mouthing off about one of your friends being a slag. (not that unpopular an opinion I suppose, except maybe to the guy I left on the floor cradling his nuts this morning)

cartoons are not just for kids

a considerable amount of modern art is lazyness wrapped up in a good title

the majority of the DaVinci code is bollocks, basically because it's a novel

women are better fighters than men, it's just when you introduce rules that men are better

video games should be exacly that a game not a chore, that's why things like tetris become great sellers, everybody can play them but it takes time to master, games with too many controls and, you've got to do this seemingly unnecessary thing before that one are just crap.

dreamstatevariable

July 14th, 2006, 07:31 PM

The lead singer of System of a Down sounds like a dying goat.
Reese Witherspoons face makes me angry.

Agreed on both points.

I now feel compelled to add that Shakira sounds like a goat giving birth. I know, I know, not an unpopular idea but I just had to close the goat's Circle of Life.

BlueMech

July 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM

Dan Brown is actually just a terrible writer.

Kashime

July 15th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Flat chested women are automatically twice as hot as well endowed women.

I don't necessarily agree with this but along the same lines, just because a women should have breasts that are bigger than your cars tires doesn't make her attractive... the most attractive part of a women is her face.

That said, Pamela Anderson isn't hot. :|

sweetoblivion314

July 15th, 2006, 09:43 PM

I don't necessarily agree with this but along the same lines, just because a women should have breasts that are bigger than your cars tires doesn't make her attractive... the most attractive part of a women is her face.

That said, Pamela Anderson isn't hot. :|

Totaly in agreeance with this! So i will add.
Carmen Electra, Jenna Jameson (and pretty much every other hardcore porn star), Brook Burke, Angelina Jolie are all not hot.

Kiera Knightly, Natalie Portman, Shakira, Kate Beckinsale, all very hot ;)

taxman

July 15th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Carlos Santana is a bad guitarist.

AngryScientist

July 16th, 2006, 08:08 AM

Aeon Flux is a horrible cartoon, I can't watch it and everything by the same artist. The style just irks me >_<. The movie was so bad I won't even waste time on it.

Halle Berry (sp?) is NOT black.

Same with all the african-americans that call themselves african, I bet they haven't even stepped on the continent, yet get online and start threads like "oh I'm so PROUD of being african". LAMElamelame.

All 'irish' who came to the US generations ago, no, not irish either.

Oh and The Rocky Horror Picture Show rocks my socks off.

Men in make-up, or skirts and female (but not feminine, tho that can be funny too) clothing are cool and more fun than any macho guy anywhere.

Phew at least I ended on a high note :P

(and want to say that I hope noone thinks my comments are racist, I'm just irked by how much ppl put behind their race or nationality. Sure it was probably v important for your upbringing but as soon as you become an adult you're who you are. Why must you hide behind this or that great grandma/dad you had?)

magicgoo

July 16th, 2006, 04:19 PM

I hate Disneyland.

I REALLY hate cats.

I like Hanson.

dogfood

July 16th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Being born in Anaheim, I am hard-wired to love all things Disney (that don't involve animal slaughter, like Ol' Yeller and the like).

As long as there is ethnicity, it will be a major issue among large population blocks. As soon as we get rid of ethnicity, it will be something else (probably the Hanson lovers and Hanson haters).

creatix

July 17th, 2006, 01:01 AM

The Halo series is overrated.

The Metal Gear Solid series is overrated.

Fight Club is overrated.

Golf is more entertaining than Nascar.

While there are many outstanding movies, The Princess Bride is the only flawless movie ever made.

Greedo shooting first was very cool to me.

American History X and Saving Private Ryan are NOT entertaining.

Nice tits are far superior to a nice ass.

White people can jump just as high as black people. They cannot run as fast though.

Shamagim

July 17th, 2006, 01:09 AM

I REALLY hate cats.

You do?????? :(......*sniff

magicgoo

July 17th, 2006, 01:45 AM

You do?????? :(......*sniff

I'm sorry, Catlovers. I know, I know, I'm a bad person. But, I've got good reasons to hate them, I swear!

HugeHarHar

July 17th, 2006, 01:55 AM

All the Final Fantasy games up to 6 are amazing games. FF7 is a good game, but the only reason people claim it to be the best is because that's when they jumped on the video game band wagon. 8 is a disgusting game. 9 is mediocre. There really is nothing unique about 10.

Mario games are still amazing. The level designs are actually well thought out and all of the games are still highly replayable. All of the current 3D platformers ignore the concept of playing a game with your own style. Everyone is forced to run down the same hallways the same exact way.

Kingdom Hearts is better than Final Fantasy 7,8,9,and 10 combined.

Most Americans who hate America are "rebellious" teenagers who have no concept on anything outside of their hometown, or the nearest large city. Most of them like spitting out idiotic trash like how they wish America would become a communist nation, or that Anarchy is the greatest thing ever.

People who say that a zombie attack would be awesome and they would love fighting zombies are morons. Not only would they die first, not because they're trying to fight the zombies but because they're more than likely the people who would simply freeze and die where they stood, and they would never kill a single zombie.

Street Fighter still has the most depth of any fighting game made. Most notably Street Fighter 3. There is more possiblities to that game than any other fighting game. And for the people who hate 3 simply because they got rid of Sagat or Bison or Blanka or any other character needs to accept that those characters are simply not needed any more.

There are amazing game made recently. 3D games to be more exact. Shadow of the Collossus? Yeah that's right.

There has been war and corruption since civilization began. So has been eating cows. In fact, cows have been eaten longer than that. They we're made, evolved, spawned, so that we could eat them.

HugeHarHar

July 17th, 2006, 02:01 AM

Oh, and I got art school and believe that the one year I've gone, I've gotten a hundred times better artistically. I learned more through classes, and the the people around me, than anything off the internet could ever offer me.

I believe that modern art, done correctly is more valid and more interesting than almost all classic art as well as most illustration. I believe concept driven art is very important, but I also believe that the concept must be portrayed well. Skill is just as important as the idea.

Kman.

July 17th, 2006, 02:08 AM

chlorinated, flouridated tap water tastes better than beer.

You drink water with chlorine in it? o_o

Since everyone on this forum seems to hate religion, I want to say that aethism is retarded :D oh the controversy!

sweetoblivion314

July 17th, 2006, 02:33 AM

You drink water with chlorine in it? o_o

In The USA. All reservoir water (non well/lake/stream/river water) is chlorinated to kill any bacteria. The Chlorine is then removed. Then it is floridated for the health of your teeth. But then ofcourse we have to remember that water floridation is just a commy plot at mind control. I mean seriously do you ever see ruskies drink water. All they drink is vodka.

Cheese Nips are better then Cheese-its

Lord Dubu

July 17th, 2006, 08:34 AM

But then ofcourse we have to remember that water floridation is just a commy plot at mind control. I mean seriously do you ever see ruskies drink water. All they drink is vodka.

Yes but I have figured out how to defeat them. I deny women my vital essence.

Professor Az

July 17th, 2006, 12:45 PM

George Bush is not as stupid as a lot of folks say he is. He's just a lousy speaker when he tries to stray from the script. Ask him a question he's not prepared for, and he falls apart, and makes up retarded words, or just sits there and looks dumb, just like a lot of people in my Toastmasters group. Not everyone can be Ronald Reagan when it comes to speaking in public.

LaPalida

July 17th, 2006, 01:12 PM

While there are many outstanding movies, The Princess Bride is the only flawless movie ever made.

I would have to absolutely agree with this. Now for some unpopular opinions of mine:

Israel/Palestine should be fenced off with a great wall. After that we should throw weapons over the wall every couple of months and then wait until all is silent. Then take down the wall and whoever is left standing gets to keep the "promised land".

Scientists that believe in God are bad scientists.

Whoever thinks that "faith in God no matter the evidence" is an admirable trait is willfully ignorant and dangerous

There is no such thing as God/Nature given rights like the right to life, liberty and freedom and especially the right to own property because there is no basis for such things. All rights are human given and human taken.

Libertarianism is a pipe dream but governments in general are evil although necessary until we can come up with another solution.

Boys and/or girls night out is willful sexual segregation and prejudice. It's another way of saying "Honey I'm having a 'white people' night out tomorrow with my friends, it's to take a break away from all the black and brown people, love ya"

Worshiping the Abrahamic God of the Bible/Torah/Koran is worshiping power.

Cornflakes with orange juice! Milk is gross.

You should be able to own firearms even in a "peaceful" society because "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

Marriage (in the west) is an archaic and sexist tradition and I want no part of it. I do not need the approval of God or the city in the form of a paper to show that I love someone.

Fallout is the best RPG ever made.

ALL knowledge should be free.

Intellectual property destroys culture and freedom. But since it's in effect then I think that Einstein's family should patent the E=MC2 formula and make millions.

People that go into medicine (like surgeons or doctors) for money are unethical and immoral because their primary motive is not to help you but to help themselves. If you want to make money go into business.

Apple is a fascist company with mind control policies that treat you like a criminal. Heil Apple! And although they do have nice design it soon turns you into an unoriginal clone.

Briguy

July 17th, 2006, 08:13 PM

I believe in the existance of one God, who has dominion over everything in life and the universe and has no physical components. He is not selective over who he loves, he loves everyone, even when they fall, for I believe we exist for one another, and we are always given the opportunity to correct our mistakes and ultimately better our selves and always aid those around us to reach their full potential as a human being.

Those who literally interpret any piece of religious text from any source are ignorant and can't look past simple meaning to a higher allegorical concept.

All people need to have faith in something, and an understanding that there is something greater than themselves.

Asians are not innate mathematical/science geniouses. Everything in life takes hardwork and dedication, no matter who the person is.

Those who abdandon family and friends are deserving of neither.

The British should be held partly responsible for what is going on in the Middle East today. Israel is not an agressor. Israel is defending its self with enemies poised at them on all fronts. They don't leave their own behind, You can blame the corrupt miliitants of the Palistinians for their current quality of life, as they sink all their foriegn aid into weaponry and propaganda. Believe it or not, majority of BOTH SIDES WANT PEACE. Suicide bombing and sending your children off to their deaths IS NOT a Muslim value. Unfortunatly, you can't reason with fanatics.

Israel was established LEGALLY in 1947. Their borders were approved by the U.N. (as in recognized by the international community).

American media is biased, and those people who feed themselves with corporate filtered economically interested news, needs to get off their lazy ass and do THEIR OWN research.

I have no qualms with gay marriages. I believe that if two individuals of the same sex need to do a ceremonial act for themselves to make it "official" is fine.

I do have issues with gay couples adopting children, and the fact that they are willfully not going to procreate.

Abortion should be illegal except in two cases. 1) Rape 2) If any birth complications will endager the mother's life. Just because you were horny and couldn't put a damn condom on doesn't mean you can kill your potential child. Simple answer, don't want to have a child? DON'T HAVE SEX.

Americans need to reform their diet and excercise more.

There are too many cars in America.

Alcohol and cigarettes should probably be illegal.

Marijuana use DOES NOT need to be legalized. THC is already used in a medical setting. There is no justification for this. The itching need to get baked is not a good one.

I don't know where to stand on stem cell research, frankly, i'm f&*@ing confused, and by nature am a very conflicted person.

I'm not too fond of Germany.

Also another note, if Americans say Israel can't build a wall to secure themselves, then we can't build a wall to keep Mexicans out. If Americans say Israel should give back land, then America should give back the entire North American continent to the Native Americans. In fact, all nations that have gained land through military conquest whether in defense or agression should give back their land. So, the world needs to get on solving that asap.

There are good and bad people in ALL nations and societies.

John Kerry WAS NOT BETTER, and JUST AS BAD as George Bush. Both parties screwed us on their candidate choices. Republicans sometimes adopt Democratic issues, and Democrats sometimes adopt Republican issues. Deal with it, or finally vote 3rd party. They're not the only two in existance.

Women are just as equal as men.

I agree with Vegetarianism and Veganism.

Queen kicks major ass!

As Lewis Black said, no one knows what the f&*k they're doing anymore.

I'm done for now. . .

HugeHarHar

July 17th, 2006, 09:03 PM

There hasn't been a need to use embryonic stem cells in a few years. It is possible to take stem cells from an adult (there are a few spots that regenerate stem cells) and so the results can be used in the same person with no difficulties. The only thing keeping stem cell research from going anywhere in the US is the FDA.

There are no drugs involved when using stem cells, so the FDA would make no money off of it.

Figured I'd throw that in.

kennygeeze

July 17th, 2006, 09:18 PM

Art school should be treated like any other program... business, psych, early childhood etc... and any teacher that waits for you to figure the class out for yourself is not doing their job.

Rihanna is a terrible singer.

Most popular music these days just doesn't work when performed live...
Shadow of the colossus is over-rated. What's there is good but it feels like half a game.

Final Fantasy: the movie is a decent film and the only reason why most people disliked it is because of the title. Had it been called "phantom invasion : EXTREME" it would not of been so hated.

Going to the movies and going to the 'club' are by far the two most anti-social activities you can do while still including another person. Terrible places to hang out.

Athiests who talk ALOT about their views are more annoying than any religious fundamentalist, door to door religious guy, or street pamphlet person put together.

LaPalida

July 17th, 2006, 11:55 PM

Oh yeah I forgot these ones:

ALL drugs should be legalized. To do otherwise is the highest form of hypocrisy as long as alcohol and tobacco are legalized. Also no one should tell anyone what to take into their bodies provided they are putting themselves at risk only.

Rastafarians are an oppressed minority because their freedom of religion is being violated by the ban on marijuana while other religions are free to use psychedelic tea for their ceremonies.

You shouldn't love your family for the label that they bear (for the group they fall in) but for who they are. If they are bad to you and mistreat you you should definitely leave them.

Art is fluff although it's inspiring fluff. I have more respect for more mundane and practical jobs like farming, engineering, and medicine etc.

People that thank God that they survived when a plane crashed or a mine caved in are thankless assholes. Oh yeah forget all those poor shmucks that "God decided not to spare" and forget all those rescue teams and doctors that worked to save their life. It's like saying "Thank you God for not killing me tonight because you are so great".... bleh

Wafflehouseninja

July 18th, 2006, 12:47 AM

well now.. where to start.

I think we need to take over most of africa to save them from them selves ( and what europ did to them/left them with)

There will never be peace in the midle east. And in fact we need to switch to other sources of fule just so we can pull up stakes and leave them to kill each other.

All things from japan are not cool just cause they are from japan.

Nintendo's WII is fucking retarded! its a power gove and a game cube. woopdidoo freaking doo!

Briguy

July 18th, 2006, 06:58 AM

The Nintendo Wii will be a great console.

The whole Halo series is a very bland first person shooter experience.

Dreamcast was an awesome console.

Poker is not a sport.

World of Warcraft sucks.

City of Heros/Villians rocks.

4 player split screen / or massive LAN's is far better than any single person internet experience.

PvE > PvP

NoSeRider

July 18th, 2006, 08:51 AM

I have never been to a class that is more involved in how you feel then an art class.......art classes seem to be about feelings.

I've taken Biology, Calculus, Spanish....emotion never came into the equation.

Artists are drama queens?

Lord Dubu

July 18th, 2006, 09:41 AM

Laura Ingraham and Ann Coultier are in fact shills planted by left-wing extremists.

Same goes for Pat Robertson, except replace left-wing extremists with Satan himself.

AngryScientist

July 18th, 2006, 11:19 AM

It's so much easier to do a 2d render of an object, even several views, than modelling, texturing and lighting the thing. Which means that in terms of creative thinking, 2d will always be superior over 3d.

I also don't like cars. I can't drive and I haven't got a license because I know that if I do I'll get used to the independence of it and will burn fossil fuels, which will then make me feel bad. Public transport FTW!

The world isn't that different (more developed countries), most of it is commercialised enough for anyone to get around, shop, anything, with little more than a nod and a smile. If they have enough money that is. >:D In less developed countries, all you need is money with which to buy the rest of that stuff (army, mansion and harem :P )

Michael Jaecks

July 20th, 2006, 02:46 PM

I'm reading Sam Harris' The End of Faith right now and its really compelling. Our civilization is long overdue for jettisoning religion. Even the Greeks (who did not have the scientific and technological means we do) were tossing out their superstitions hundreds of years before Christ. Harris' book regards all religious faith as something not unlike mental illness, and people who argue for religion should be treated like they are arguing for paranoia or schizophrenia.

"I have no direct evidence, but I believe in my heart that God is watching me."

vs

"I have no direct evidence, but I believe in my heart that the CIA is watching me."

And while its true 95% of the planet believes in some version of the Creator-Caretaker, I seem to remember being in the 5th percentile was considered a good thing in school. ;) I wonder what the demographics were like when the "flat earth" theory was still in vogue.

So I guess that makes me one of those annoying atheists.

Additionally, I'm a big believer in zero population growth. Not forever, just soon and for a while. The earth's population has doubled in my lifetime. Further, many population experts say the interval between occasions the population doubles is cut in half each time it happens. The last time it happened was about 37-38 years. We'll have 12 billion folks in about 19 years. That's too many.

Prometheus|ANJ

July 20th, 2006, 05:01 PM

3D modellers. I believe most 3D modellers sucks donkeyballs. They are technical artists who have no clue about the aesthetics of sculpting. When the reference material they so slavishly follow doesn't cover an area and they need to interpolate, they always come up with the worst possible solution... and don't get me started on the ones that draw their own designs. Yeah, I know there's a few good ones too, but because anyone with a little technical skill can make a nice render of their deformed primitives, well... I suppose it's the 'polished turd recieves standing ovations' bit that gets to me. It's kind of like with new games. Polished turds, the lot of 'em! Arrr!

evildisco

July 20th, 2006, 05:13 PM

Here's some more:

-All religions should be banned and people who try to convert other people publicly fustigated.

-The Grimm adventures of Bill and Mandy is NOT for kids.

-There should be a 'responsibility' test for potential parents, if you are found unfit you don't fucking procreate and/or whine about it.

-Full nudity and explicit material should be of free access. Not because parents in the US are too damn retarded to take care of their own kids should I suffer the consequences of the 'nannyism' of the state.

-I find special olympics sad and demeaning for the participants.

-Kylie Minogue and Danii Minogue are the same person.

-I'd like to be able to smoke wherever I want, since I have to suck on exhaust fumes anywhere I don't want.

-Anti-Tobacco associations are just as bad as tobacco companies.

-Morbidly obese people should be sent to Somalia or Ethopia.

Prometheus|ANJ

July 20th, 2006, 05:33 PM

glikster

July 20th, 2006, 05:44 PM

Sundance

July 20th, 2006, 06:23 PM

I like Hanson.

* MMMMMM * Bop * MMMMMM * Bop *

I can't believe you got called out on the silly Cat thing when you floated Hanson out there...Shit I lived in Oklahoma (their home state) at the time and still...:nohope:

* MMMMMM * Bop * MMMMMM * Bop *

Ilaekae

July 20th, 2006, 08:50 PM

There IS such a thing in art as talent, and no amount of training and practice will ever equalize the playing field. Two people, one with talent, one without, doing an equal amount of work and practice, will always result in one behind the other.

Video games of all sorts should be outlawed as ant-social and counter-productive.

A true genius is someone who knows as much as possible of as many things as possible in as many fields as possible. Anyone who specializes to the extent of exclusion of other knowledge is an idiot.

All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945.

The United States is doomed to second class status until it's people, especially the young, learn that glorifying ignorance, image, wealth and "coolness" over education is one of the stupidest concepts ever created by man.

I would rather share my bed with a "plain" woman who had the guts to argue with me, and come up with her own plans for our "world" than any synthetic Barbi sex-slave just dying to do my bidding.

People who are cruel to animals are extremely dangerous to other humans.

Modern laws are more about keeping people in their places than controling crime, etc.

Any law based on a religious belief is automatically evil.

Any government/culture/nation/religion that honors males above females should be innoculated with a virus/compound/whatever to prevent the conception of any males for at least three generations.

Photoshop, Painter, and 3D modeling programs do not, and will never, make you an artist.

People who use plastic surgery to attract a mate should be prevented from breeding, on the basis that it is impending cruelty to their offspring to come.

Anyone without a sense of humor should be banished to a walled city with weapons of all types, unlimited ammunition, bad food and $2 in their pocket.

Anyone who thinks picking a fight with a stranger is fun should be able to be legally beaten to death on the spot by anyone and everyone in the vicinity, using any thing at hand as a weapon.

sve

July 20th, 2006, 10:46 PM

"All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945."

Any Japanese? :x even the ones who share your point of view? Even newborn? even the ones who have no idea what are you talking about? I don't get it. You have a very young heart.

"Any law based on a religious belief is automatically evil."
But how about don't kill, don't steal? they are kind of nice.

I agree with many others though, not the ones which include all sorts of punishment though. Who are we to judge.

Rascar Capac

July 20th, 2006, 11:22 PM

Video games of all sorts should be outlawed as ant-social and counter-productive.

Id be out of a job..and so would most people here...

All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945.

So you dont accept 99% of the world as equal I take it

I would rather share my bed with a "plain" woman who had the guts to argue with me, and come up with her own plans for our "world" than any synthetic Barbi sex-slave just dying to do my bidding..

Im sure you would for a while...

Any law based on a religious belief is automatically evil.

Amen

People who use plastic surgery to attract a mate should be prevented from breeding, on the basis that it is impending cruelty to their offspring to come.

agreed...its false advertising and it messes with darwinism which is the only true religion.

Mavrick71

July 20th, 2006, 11:23 PM

to all the Americans who make fun of Soccer but have the intestinal fortitude to sit on their asses for hours on end to watch a bunch of cars chase their own tale for 500 laps... or worse , watch a baseball game that is so mindnumbingly boring you need illegal drugs to make it the least bit exciting...:stfu:

I'm an american and I second that.

Mine:
2000 left turns are fucking boring (NASCAR)
Futbol kicks ass
Baseball is only fun to watch if you're at the game.
American Football has gotten boring
Chromehounds is one of the best LIVE games for the XBOX 360 (not sure if this is unpopular or not)

HugeHarHar

July 21st, 2006, 12:22 AM

GTA games are boring.

Sundance

July 21st, 2006, 12:24 AM

I am more funny than you are.

Sarcasm is always funny...even if it is aimed at you. Self depriciating humor is the only thing more funny than sarcasm.

Canadians are cool.

3CH is the best weekly activity on CA.

Side note: Rascar...99% of the World's population is not Japanese...re-read the I-man's statement. Racisim doesn't mean you consider yourself better than another race...most of it is fear of the unkown culture. Sadly enough, what Ilaekae said is very true.

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 12:50 AM

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 01:18 AM

FROM SVE...

" "All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945."

Any Japanese? even the ones who share your point of view? Even newborn? even the ones who have no idea what are you talking about? I don't get it. You have a very young heart."

And do you know why there are Japanese who don't know what I'm talking about. Because the government of Japan and it's social organizations have refused to admit in text books, the media, or any other instructional forum that what happened DID happen. Basically, they are lying about the atrocities they committed, which in many cases exceeded the Nazi's ability to prove just how low a human institution can sink. Does that help you "get it" any better? I'm thinking you may be a bit young to have had family and friends who were tortured and butchered in the last war for no apparent reason other than the need to exhibit just how cruel someone could become. And for the record, my heart is old and bitter, even though I try every day to make it otherwise.

"Any law based on a religious belief is automatically evil."
But how about don't kill, don't steal? they are kind of nice."

I agree--they are kind of nice, but the law is actually "don't murder, don't steal." Otherwise, the laws would have abolished war, as well as self defense and defending your family, a long time ago.

Not murdering, not stealing, not committing adultery or whatever, respecting your elders, protecting the weak (children), incest and any number of other grievous crimes against your neighbor all were recognized and accepted long before there was religion as we know it.

Homosexuals were considered savants, teachers and protectors of children, and even specially gifted in "seeing" long before the various "modern" religions decided they were less than human and an easy target for abuse. Now we have "kill a ΦΦΦ for Jesus" good christians out there...

The same goes for women who were intelligent, independent, or able to become wealthy through their own abilities. Funny how many laws that were in effect for the last 2000 years that suppressed such women were results of patriarchal religions intruding into sectarian law, using various "holy books" to keep the bitches in their place.

In my (adult) lifetime (but obviously not your's), the religious powers in the US used their teachings and beliefs to prove "legally" that dark-skinned people were too stupid, subhuman, and just plain too animalistic to be allowed to vote, intermarry with "real" people, and to even drink or eat at the same places as real "honest-to-God" human beings.

Want me to keep going? Or is this enough for now...?

and Rascar...

"So you dont accept 99% of the world as equal I take it"

Uummm...forgive me for being blunt, but...exactly where the fuck did this come from?

...and Sundance...

"I am more funny than you are."

I couldn't agree more, Bubba...

Mavrick71

July 21st, 2006, 01:25 AM

:x Wow.........

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 01:30 AM

Hahahahahahahaha...just struck me as funny. Thank you.

Like your blimp, Mavrick...

CaptainInsano

July 21st, 2006, 01:38 AM

the government of Japan and it's social organizations have refused to admit in text books, the media, or any other instructional forum that what happened DID happen. Basically, they are lying about the atrocities they committed, which in many cases exceeded the Nazi's ability to prove just how low a human institution can sink....

:hatsoff:

Cthogua

July 21st, 2006, 08:17 AM

Kirsten Dunst looks like she's eaten a handfull of valium and ALWAYS looks dirty.

Both Spiderman, and all 3 X-men movies sucked

Reese Witherspoon and Mena Suvari have fetus heads

Ribcage on a girl is not attractive, its just reminds me of concentration camp victims...eat a fucking cookie

Crack babies are a myth

The current trend of it being fashionable to be angry and militant when stating your political beliefs is dumb and counter productive. The only people that like to hear shit like that is people who already agree with you <shakes fist in air> "Fuck yeah man! Anne Coulter speaks the truth!" :frustrated:

Angry young conservatives that complain about liberal media bull horning their agendas while simultaineously bull horning their own agendas are priceless idiots

...and ALL media is biased

That was kinda theraputic :confident

Cwn Annwn

July 21st, 2006, 09:14 AM

"All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945."

And do you know why there are Japanese who don't know what I'm talking about. Because the government of Japan and it's social organizations have refused to admit in text books, the media, or any other instructional forum that what happened DID happen. Basically, they are lying about the atrocities they committed, which in many cases exceeded the Nazi's ability to prove just how low a human institution can sink. Does that help you "get it" any better? I'm thinking you may be a bit young to have had family and friends who were tortured and butchered in the last war for no apparent reason other than the need to exhibit just how cruel someone could become. And for the record, my heart is old and bitter, even though I try every day to make it otherwise.

So you hate the government and the people of Japan who turn the cogs. What I don't understand is why you'd consider for example, a Japanese kindergarden student as sub-human. (You said "not equal", ie. sub-human or at least second class citizen.)

Granted their atrocities during WW2 were unimaginable by most of today's standards, often for the sake of cruelty alone. Although I was not personally alive yet at the time, my father lived through it, in one of the invaded countries. He saw friends butchered ad tortured as a young boy. Your pain is sadly not unique. Another family member of mine was sent to Auschwitz and she somehow survived til the surrender. I don't think I need to tell you what she went through there. Yet hate is not on their agenda. It's hard to move on in life and grow as a person when you're full of hate or bitterness. (Yes, my family stretches across the globe.)

Sure there is still a lot of racism out there, but everyone? I think the current popular approach is to give tolerance and racism issues lip service in the media and in the political rings. However the underlying problems of misunderstanding, prejudice and the inability to understand that we are all human are still there. Humans instinctively band up against the unfamiliar.

Have you entered everybody's mind and examined their conscience? Or is it a thought or perception to make your own racism more bearable? That is my suspicion, but I can not mind read.

Lord Dubu

July 21st, 2006, 09:24 AM

Anyone who supports a smoking-ban is a coward so afraid of personal responsibility and freedom of choice they are voluntarily handing over control of thier body to eventual and inevitible complete government control.

Shamagim

July 21st, 2006, 09:41 AM

-People tend become the very thing they hate the most.

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 09:54 AM

and Rascar...

"So you dont accept 99% of the world as equal I take it"

Uummm...forgive me for being blunt, but...exactly where the fuck did this come from?

Well...what I was trying to say was that most countries have commmitted unspeakable atrocities, hence the 99%...but I didnt take into account that you were talking about ones that still haven't apologized and recognized it as a dark chapter in their history...
but even then, there are other governments out there who refuse to own up to what they did. Im guessing based on your statements, you wont be taking any vacations to Turkey anytime soon for example...what the Turks did to the Armenians in the first genocide of the 20th century is beyond description. Oh and before any Turk here tries to get into an argument with me about that, dont bother..I know YOUR government doesn't put it in ANY books, media...etc...so I dont blame you...you probably dont even know where the hell Armenia is..oh wait..yes you do. Youre standing in it.

Cwn Annwn

July 21st, 2006, 10:24 AM

Actually here is an official US poster I found not long ago.

7181

Amazing how times and ethics change.

sve

July 21st, 2006, 10:58 AM

Ilaekae, I have a young heart too, many people here have, it is not a bad thing. Tendency to participate actively in life, take an interest in life around is young. Tendency to extreme way to resolve something that you can't accept (just by eliminating the person, for example), well, how can you describe this? About my family and WWII, I have many members of my family, uncles, aunt, grandfather who were soldiers in this war.
BTW, I don't think people who were drafted by their government by law of the country they happen to live in, carry the same responsibility as people who make the decision to start the war. Do they have a choice?

Your arguments, well I can't take them as logical. What today's people have to to do with crime of their country years ago before they were born. Some people are just apolitical, have other priorities. Because humans have limits. They don't think about past crimes because they have to deal with today's daily problem, like putting bread on their table everyday. Maybe it is flaws in character in their case, but I don't think they are bottom feeders.

And I don't understand, isn't it normal that children don't answer for their fathers sins? That's why on the other hand I think only generation who suffer during some events has a right for compensation, not their descendants which were born much later.

If you consider my remark about an young heart as a personal attack, which wasn't that at all, I'm taking it back and apologise.

Not accepting homosexuals, educated women, Asian race, dark-skinned people are in my opinion some sort of xenophobia, very human thing. Again because we have limits in understanding unknown to us, have limits what we can accept.

And all people who hate some unknown to them event or the whole race always have some explanation "why", logical for them, but not for me. Japanese are too wide term, it is a lot of different personalities, with different past and present and mindsets. how can you see them as one. That's a generalization, not logical in my opinion.

About religion. Just my opinion, not anything big, so don't get excited.

Norms of human behavior, religious laws and later laws of human society. I think they are very much connected, very similar in some aspects, don't you think? Their function is protection of human life and propriety, because that's what keeps society functioning. Not organised religion was maybe very first thing to appear together with consciousness. You got fire, you got fear. that's first religion, IMHO. You got fear, you got some limitations for human behavior. Outcast doesn't have laws. group of individuals can't live without. Religious laws, don't steal/ don't kill based on common sense. IMHO.

That's what I think. I realise you have a right to think anything you want. I was just kind of curious to hear more why. Thank you for explaining your position. although I don't agree. And don't think, please that I want you or anyone stop talking because I think differently. I'm very far from this. I might be curious but I don' take it personally at all.

blog

July 21st, 2006, 11:03 AM

There's A LOT of shit artists on CA, (unfortunately myself included :( ), and about 200 that are REALLY good, and they're the only reason I'm here

Sundance

July 21st, 2006, 11:17 AM

In a thread called "Unpopular opinions that you champion..." it should be no suprise that people might disagree.

Oh, and Rascar, no it wasn't sarcasm. I just didn't comprehend the link you were making. I fully understand with your expanded explanation, and it's probably more like 99.9%.

Hugs and Kisses all around!!!!

Cthogua

July 21st, 2006, 11:31 AM

ALL drugs should be legalized. To do otherwise is the highest form of hypocrisy as long as alcohol and tobacco are legalized. Also no one should tell anyone what to take into their bodies provided they are putting themselves at risk only.

Agreed, atleast in part, and not because I just "want to get baked" but for the simple fact that "drug" prohibition DOES NOT WORK. All it does is create criminals, invite black market interests to traffic in the banned substance, and encourage misinformation. The amount of lies and misinformation floating around out there about illegal drugs is STAGGERING. Some of it created by rumors with no way to verify, some of it created by the government to work toward their ends...Crack babies are a perfect example, turns out that no one has ever been born addicted to cocaine, and that poverty and broken homes has a more intense adverse affect on developmental behavior. The media latched on to it and the government encouraged the false reporting because it created furor that fueled Ronnie's War on Drugs. During the height of the craze camera crews were reported going into hospitals and filming crying black children as "crack babies" I am in no way saying that crack or cocaine is good in anyway. Infact it does need to be controlled, but controlling something is different that flat out banning, even for research. Also approaching societal ills in terms of War is stupid. Are you gonna go fight a war on depression?

LaPalida

July 21st, 2006, 12:42 PM

That's true, there is more than just one reason that drugs should be legalized. That crack baby story was a crock... but I have already stopped reading and listening to mainstream media anyway. They report all sorts of nonesense that's meant to just attract eyes and ratings. Journalism isn't what it used to be :/

NoSeRider

July 21st, 2006, 12:47 PM

I believe alcohol is worse then pot....that comedian Bill Hicks philosophy.
http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/11450/

I also believe people are bad enough sober let alone inebriated. Somehow I don't think legalizing drugs will solve anything.

I think pot should be legalized and alcohol should be illegal because I've never heard of an angry pot smoker going a 100 miles an hour in a car while killing a few dozen people while on their way......but then again I don't think recreational drug use should be allowed anyway.....because if you act like an idiot sober....what makes you think being inebriated will make you any better?

LaPalida

July 21st, 2006, 01:06 PM

I think pot should be legalized and alcohol should be illegal because I've never heard of an angry pot smoker going a 100 miles an hour in a car while killing a few dozen people while on their way......but then again I don't think recreational drug use should be allowed anyway.....because if you act like an idiot sober....what makes you think being inebriated will make you any better?

Hmm I would beg to differ on this. Do you remember what happened during the prohibition? You don't want that again. The government has no business telling people what to do with their bodies. Drunk driving is illegal and people get killed but people who smoke pot which is already illegal also drive and kill people. Banning alcohol won't solve anything. People are still going to drink and drive drunk and kill people. Not only that but if it's illegal we will have more crime (mafia controlling drugs) and more home made hooch that makes people go blind.

Cthogua

July 21st, 2006, 01:14 PM

I also believe people are bad enough sober let alone inebriated. Somehow I don't think legalizing drugs will solve anything.

Were "drugs" legalized, I seriously doubt usage would change much at all. There is probably a very small percentage of people who don't just because it is illegal, but the majority of people who don't use drugs don't want to. The fact is people that want to use drugs do. Regarding the legality, nobody does anything expecting to get caught. There are certainly drugs that do pose a serious health risk, and in no way should they be available at the local gas station. I would be happy to just see a drug policy that is based on scientific fact and not outrageous propaganda and misinformation. The problem with outright banning of a drug is that it basically hands control over to the black market, which is why you run into problems with gangs and violence. The illegal status doesn't seem to change the public's desire for it at all. Alcohol Prohibition in the 20s is a perfect example of that. Instead of "ridding the US of the death dealing scourge of alcohol" it just made a bunch of criminals rich (Kennedys)

NoSeRider

July 21st, 2006, 01:17 PM

Pot makes you paranoid.......I think driving under the influence of pot is less likely then driving drunk. Those that do drive while smoking pot have probably become immune to its effects.....but then again people that drink think they're immune too.

Unpopular opinions that you champion...

glynn james

July 21st, 2006, 02:50 PM

All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No sides are innocent.

Books of all sorts should be outlawed as ant-social and counter-productive.

:bashful:

0kelvin

July 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM

Ooh, Ilaekae is stirring things up! Finally this thread is interesting!

Ilaekae, the one thing I don't understand about your statement is that, judging from things you've said in the past, you obviously would not want to be judged by the actions of your government, but you have no problem judging others by theirs. By all means judge the Japanese government, but as far as I'm concerned the Japanese people have no more blood on their hands than you or I.

I'd also really love to hear the argument behind banning video games of all kinds.

0kelvin

dann

July 21st, 2006, 03:25 PM

The only true religion of peace is Buddhism.

God's greatest gift to mankind was the earth, second is free will.

Don't do business with Republicans if you can help it. Generally you'll get ripped off. They're selfish people unwilling to compromise.

911 was facilitated by Americans. It was designed to catapult the country into a defensive posture against what those whom designed and facilitated it feared: Muslims, Arabs, and the idea of a growingly powerful Middle East. It was also designed to make those involved a great sum of money through war contracts and the general business of war.

Hurricanes are fun.

Prog-rock is as beautiful as Mozart.

I am a stallion in bed.

Hippies should be more violent towards things that destroy the world.

Yeah, those are my most unpopular views I champion. I don't care to discuss any of them on a forum. I like to see the face of the person I talk to, in case I need to slap them closed fist and re-align their sense.

HugeHarHar

July 21st, 2006, 04:02 PM

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 04:24 PM

Prog-rock is as beautiful as Mozart.

but a hell of a lot more pretentious.

Bubstar

July 21st, 2006, 05:03 PM

The human race for all we have done is actually not that bad a species. We aint dead yet are we.

Reading is fun.

Lil john is annoying , current hip-hop has been taken over by money hungry iignorance peddling swine. BET is not entertainment.

Tech-tv was alot better than G4. THe screensavers for fucks sake.

Cocaine is not a hell of drug.

BlueMech

July 21st, 2006, 05:08 PM

"God's greatest gift to mankind was the earth, second is free will."

I feel the opposite, free will was the worst thing god could have done to us. Especially when he damns us for it.

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:18 PM

Allow me to add another unpopular opinion I champion...

It's a possibility that an extremely high percentage of people who post in forums can't seem to read. (This should be good for another three or four pages at least...)

I SAID this...(I've added BF for emphasis)

"All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945."

I got back...

"So you don't accept 99% of the world as equal I take it"

(I still don't have an answer that makes sense on how I supposedly said THIS...)

"What I don't understand is why you'd consider...a Japanese kindergarden student as sub-human."

(I'm still looking for where I said THIS...maybe someone could point it out, please...)

...and to Cwn Annwn...

"(Yes, my family stretches across the globe.)"

(So did mine. 47 0f them died in the death camps in Europe.)

"Have you entered everybody's mind and examined their conscience? Or is it a thought or perception to make your own racism more bearable? That is my suspicion, but I can not mind read."

(Sadly, I can't either. Oh, and is this your way of making racism more acceptable? "Sure there is still a lot of racism out there, but everyone? I think the current popular approach is to give tolerance and racism issues lip service in the media and in the political rings. However the underlying problems of misunderstanding, prejudice and the inability to understand that we are all human are still there. Humans instinctively band up against the unfamiliar.")

And sve..."I don't think people who were drafted by their government by law of the country they happen to live in, carry the same responsibility as people who make the decision to start the war. Do they have a choice?"

I'm sorry, but in my humble opinion, they do. The consequences may be death at the hands of the masters, but they DO have a choice. It's happened many time throughout history.

"Maybe it is flaws in character in their case, but I don't think they are bottom feeders."

I'm glad, but in the context of your paragraph stating I'm not logical, you DO seem to infer that I DO think they're bottom feeders. Would you be kind enough to point out where I implied or stated this?

...and I'm a bit confused...you make this statement...

"And all people who hate some unknown to them event or the whole race always have some explanation "why", logical for them, but not for me. Japanese are too wide term, it is a lot of different personalities, with different past and present and mindsets. how can you see them as one. That's a generalization, not logical in my opinion."

...immediately after you made this one...

"Not accepting homosexuals, educated women, Asian race, dark-skinned people are in my opinion some sort of xenophobia, very human thing. Again because we have limits in understanding unknown to us, have limits what we can accept."

So...I'm a racist, but everyone else is a "very human xenophobe"?

Since you've stressed logic a number of times here, please enlighten me as to which of the immediately above I should pay more attention to. I seem to be suddenly incapable of logic.

AND lest we let glynn james get off scott free...

"Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No sides are innocent."

I totally agree. Especially after the evil empire of the US, Australia and Great Britain suddenly and without warning attacked the innocent Japanese asleep peacefully in their beds dreaming of puppies and world peace in 1941 (or was it 1932?...I'm never sure.) Why they didn't expect us to do that is beyond me, because they surely must have gotten news of the unimaginable atrocities we committed in Nanking, Manchuria, the Philippines and Korea. Even I would have trouble condemning them for using such weapons against us in...ummm...I'm a little lost here...are those cities in Idaho or someplace like that. I can't seem to find them mentioned anywhere in my history books...in fact...I'm having a bit of trouble finding ANY mention of our obscene sneak attacks and brutality against innocent men, women and children during that war (which we obviously started) anywhere in any of our history books...

Can you spell s-a-r-c-a-s-m-? Of course, meant with all due respect...

And you probably think this is pretty funny...

"Books of all sorts should be outlawed as ant-social and counter-productive."

But don't do it again...seriously. I'm wasting my time already answering for comments I never made. Having someone state something that stupid attributed to me might be a bit more than my shaky grip on reality can take.

I still hold with my original statement. Most video games don't educate, don't produce any measurable increase in either intelligence or creativity, and they definitely don't help in any way to prepare their users for a more productive life in society. I can't say the same for books, newspapers, or even playing stickball on a city street, which at least helps develop social and team skills and keeps you healthy and active.

And Okelvin just snuck in there, so...

To be perfectly clear, my problem IS with the Japanese government/establishment, and not it's people in general. I purposely used the word "Japanese" though, because I feel the common citizen refuses to stand up to their government on this issue. I condemn the average US citizen for the same thing when it comes to dictatorial abuse of power, institutional racism and sexism, religious intolerance and any other number of easily correctable ills that plague my own country. Those who don't speak against evil are by default supporting it by refusing to challenge it, no matter what their personal beliefs. And I think I answered you video game thing above...

And if I don't stir things up, who will? That's why they hired me...

...at 23¢ a day...pikers...

guggemmaneuver

July 21st, 2006, 05:26 PM

here's one:
THIS THREAD SHOULD BE LOCKED NOW

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:30 PM

Oh, c'mon, Guggy. We're just starting to have fun, and most of it has been pretty civil so far, don't you think?

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 05:32 PM

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:34 PM

I DID miss it, and I apologize for not noticing, but I still have trouble with the leap you made to get there...'nuf said. Minor point.

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 05:36 PM

I forgive you...now Im gonna go back to making video games to rot the minds of little children everywhere...

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:40 PM

Look out your window. I'm the guy with the big sign third from the left in the mob circling your building.

Rascar Capac

July 21st, 2006, 05:42 PM

wait - the japanese guy?:D

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:44 PM

SHHHHHH! I'm in disguise...

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 05:45 PM

...and I'm obviously Chinese, you doofus. I'm not carrying a camera...

dann

July 21st, 2006, 05:45 PM

Greed is not affected by your political allignment. Democrats are greedy, republicans, whatever else. Greed is a societal value. Taught through parenting, media, literature, friends, school. If someone is going to rip you off, it's not because of which side of the corrupt political system they're on.

I thought this was unpopular opinions ;)

That's a wonderful argument in favor of a 'grey' area where more truth may lie, but life lessons teach me otherwise. However, the whole definition of 'conservative' is an unwillingness to change, and most Republicans are of the conservative persuasion. So if I had to pick a team and I needed a team not just of unity, but of creativity, I would select a non-Republican because by an associated definition they're going to be more difficult to work with if we're not totally homogenous in our beliefs. In my opinion, that's why the KKK and what seems to ME most racists vote Republican. :[ They strive for homogeny, change and difference is not their domain.

I also ask you to consider how many money grubbing scandals involve Republicans compared to anything else, combined. Don't give me that 'polical alignment doesn't matter'. Well even if you think it doesn't matter, the evidence we see would show that i may be ATLEAST an associated trait. There's usually something to guilt by association.

parenting, media, literature, friends, school

All factors that can be dictated by political alignment. In fact, that's the whole point of a political alignment, to collect and enforce common ideas such as information on parenting, media, literature which would naturally result in a change in your friends and even school.

Here's another unpopular opinion I champion:

I'm right. Always. ;)

Prometheus|ANJ

July 21st, 2006, 06:06 PM

We are machines (http://www.johnhorgan.org/work13.htm).

Sundance

July 21st, 2006, 06:14 PM

wait - the japanese guy?:D
SHHHHHH! I'm in disguise...
...and I'm obviously Chinese, you doofus. I'm not carrying a camera...

Damn you both! I've got a bruise the size of a grapefruit forming on my ass 'cause I fell out of my chair laughing at that shit...now cut it out!

sve

July 21st, 2006, 06:15 PM

Ilaekae, you can't be logical every time, sometimes you are, in other cases you are not. Thank God, because you have feelings and you're attached to dear to you things more than to some others. You last statement about Japanese government sounds more understandable for me, so I have no more questions about it. Everywhere in my post I wrote words "in my opinion", 'I think". So you may not like this opinion. I will be fine.
Racism could be form of xenophobia, it might not be, after your correction abut your dislike for Japanese government (not Japanese people) I don't think you can be called a racist or xenophobe. That's not racism, more like negative position about Japanese politics during WWII.
This is just my opinion, someone else could think differently.
About bottom feeders, I never said they were your words. I said "I don't think they are bottom feeders". But...saying about them not being equals to you, you didn't mean they are superior to you, did you?

"Since you've stressed logic a number of times here, please enlighten me as to which of the immediately above I should pay more attention to. I seem to be suddenly incapable of logic."
Sometimes you are logical, sometimes you are not, I repeat. You don't have to pay any attention to anything. I was interested to hear you thoughts, I heard them, I don't need anything else. No need to change your way of thinking because I don't agree with you. I'm OK with you not liking something or someone. It is just opinion of other person, why do you even care?

What else to say about this discussion? I respect you, like you, you are a good person, I'm glad you corrected your words. But if you have not done it, the same outcome, it would be fine too, because we don't have to deal with each other.
You can't be logical every time.
And no, it is not interesting discussion for me anymore. More like stirred emotions. Not interesting. I'm getting lazy to open my mouth about this.

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 06:18 PM

Lets both just leave it rest then, and pick on somebody else for a while...like sundance.

Sundance

July 21st, 2006, 06:29 PM

Lets both just leave it rest then, and pick on somebody else for a while...like sundance.

It wasn't me...it was the one armed man!

Ilaekae

July 21st, 2006, 06:33 PM

Too late. I'm already gathering proof that you started Glam-Rock and invented Twinkies...

Cwn Annwn

July 21st, 2006, 11:14 PM

Sundance

July 21st, 2006, 11:17 PM

Too late. I'm already gathering proof that you started Glam-Rock and invented Twinkies...

I do rock out to Poison :} ...but as far as Twinkies...I thought that those were developed by the Japanese :bashful:

Cwn Annwn

July 21st, 2006, 11:28 PM

Their evil plot has not worked! I for one have never even seen a twinkie, let alone eaten one. Mwahaha.

Ilaekae

July 22nd, 2006, 12:05 AM

I ate over 400 of 'em when I was a kid. that's why I'll live forever...I'm already chemically preserved.

Add: Sorry, Cwn Annwn, I didn't see your first post above. How about we do something that seems to be in short supply here--accept what is written as literally what it says in the most common sense.

For example...I am/was a recognized "expert" in pre-press mechanical seperations (both CMYK and special mix colormatch) in my little pond (which, for reference, covers a large part of four states). I have been for longer than you've been alive, possibly. What this means is that without a single piece of reference, color chart, or match plate of any kind, I can literally color, screen by screen, just about any piece of line art you can come up with that requires flat colors, out of my head, and I can do it in 10% increments so accurately that 99% of the time, no changes have to be made at the proofing stage. This is NOT a common skill, even among my peers who also didn't have computers to do it for us. The closest modern equivalent is if you were to flat color a drawing of maybe downtown Cleveland in Illustrator by specifying only the screens for each CMYK color and shade WITHOUT EVER LOOKING AT THE ARTWORK YOU'RE COLORING UNTIL IT'S DONE OR THE COLOR ITSELF YOU JUST CREATED. Now, I would say, in at least my tiny little professional pond, that I have no equal in this area. Would you automatically assume that I considered everyone else in my field sub-human?

(Actually...I DO, but that's beside the point in this discussion...) :P

BlueMech

July 22nd, 2006, 04:07 AM

People are so uptight about racism and don't realise how natural it is. People are not equal so it's hnatural to try and save some time by classifying different groups differently. That's twisted logic but it's all part of sterotyping, some people just do it differently. We cna all agree considering someone a lesser just because of where their parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parent's parents were born is stupid. Considering someone lesser than you for liking onions on their pizza however, is a standard for judging another person.

glynn james

July 22nd, 2006, 04:37 AM

I thought it was funny... ;)

0kelvin

July 22nd, 2006, 05:47 AM

I still hold with my original statement. Most video games don't educate, don't produce any measurable increase in either intelligence or creativity, and they definitely don't help in any way to prepare their users for a more productive life in society. I can't say the same for books, newspapers, or even playing stickball on a city street, which at least helps develop social and team skills and keeps you healthy and active.
I guess that brings me to my own unpopular opinion.

Every game (in this case, video games) is educational. The very nature of play is entirely about learning. Some games educate poorly, and some teach you poor things, but they all educate to one degree or another. What they teach has very little to do with the game's theme (Monopoly isn't going to teach you anything about building hotels, just like Grand Theft Auto isn't going to teach you how to shoot someone, those are just the window dressing). This isn't to suggest that games can't be poor role models, though. They don't teach specific skills you can point at and say, "This is what I learned today!" Most video games teach things like pattern recognition and visual-spatial judgment (I know, I know, those are pretty vague terms). Sports teach different skills, and board games teach a different set as well.

Apart from that, I fully believe games to be capable of every bit of creativity and artistry as any other medium. They have different strengths and weaknesses to be sure, but there are things that games can do that isn't possible in any other medium.

Plus they're fun.

0kelvin

Shamagim

July 22nd, 2006, 06:18 AM

Blue mech, here are the definitions of racism:

racism

The belief that members of one race (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/race) are superior to members of other races
The belief that members of one ethnic group (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ethnic_group) are superior to members of another ethnic group.
The belief that capability or behavior can be racially defined.
Aggression (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Aggression) or discriminatory (http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=discriminatory&action=edit) behavior towards members of a certain race or races.
Aggression or discriminatory behavior based upon differences in ethnicity (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ethnicity).
Ethnically or culturally discriminatory behavior exhibited by members of the racial, ethnic, or cultural group dominant within a society.
The practice of asserting or assuming racially or ethnically defined cultural dominance.
The perpetuation of racial, ethnic, or cultural dominance of some groups over others.
Opportunity inequality resulting from preferential treatment towards others of a similar cultural background.
The act of using political, judicial, civil, and educational systems to oppress one based on their ethnicity.
As you can see, is not accepting others look different, or eat different food, as you thought. Also Anthropologist disagree with you about that being a "natural" thing, is more like a made up concept that developed along with politics and religion, and has an reciprocal relationships with those two.

Groups that disagree and fight with each other are and will be made despite their race, using race only as an excuse to form a group in some cases.

Not that I´m trying to brake the rule about this being a thread to post opinions that people will automatically disagree on, is just to remind people what some "things" really mean, and why people are so uptight about it.

AngryScientist

July 22nd, 2006, 06:55 AM

LCD screens, even the older ones (I use one from 4 years ago when I'm home), are vastly superior to CRTs once you get over the learning curve of the 8-bit color. It's sort of like that CMYK thing Ikaekae can do, because I can never guess how something will print out on a CRT. CRT also isn't sharp enough due to the nature of it's construction, the light from the cathode ray tube lights up more than one pixel. Sure it looks smoother but it's not accurate by any means. So suck it, CRTs!

gah!

Cwn Annwn

July 22nd, 2006, 07:09 AM

Ilaekae: It's cool. My knickers are not yet knotted.

What I'm getting at is if one leaves a statement open such as in the earlier post, it is easy for a reader to assume something quite different to what the author of the statement intended.

Your example above provides a reference as to what you are comparing others to. You say few people are equal to you in terms of colour matching skill. It is not open to any confusion at all. However it is not the quotation in dispute. The following statement is the one in dispute:

"All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945."

If you had made a statement such as "I will never consider the Japanese morally/ethically equal" rather than leaving it as "equal", there would have been less opportunity to construe the statement as saying that Japanese were not equal to the rest of humanity. It also didn't help that the opener was "All people are racists to some degree." How's that for providing a framework of reference?

You talk about common sense. Hmm. We could test this out by taking the original post and having say a small test group of 150-200 people read it and tell us what they thought. If they all felt similarly to me and the few other people on the forum who responded, the conclusions would be either:

1. Most people can't speak, read, write or comprehend English as well as Ilaekae.
or
2. It was poorly written in the first place.
or
3. The intended point is exactly as you wrote it. (Japanese are less than other people of the world, or maybe more than. Such is the definition of "not equal" or "unequal". )

You tell me what is more likely.

Just to let you know I've run it by a few people to make sure I've not just suddenly had a minor anuerysm in my operculum and lost all sense of reading and/or linguistic comprehension.

All of the folks I've managed to ask can be considered very well read, so the likelihood of them being closet illiterate fools is quite small. I won't list their credentials because it will make me sound far more pompous than I'm already coming off as. Actually come to think of it, I've got an English teacher staying with me at the moment. She's at work at the moment, but if you think she can help me with my reading skills, I'm sure I can ask her when she gets back from work.

Other unpopular opinions that seem to have arisen;

- Yes, you do have to be extra careful when attempting to communicate in a solely written format. Innocuous comments can take on meaning you don't expect otherwise. Things can go quite pear shaped quite quickly.

- Seniority and age does not give one a monopoly on knowledge or logical thinking.

And for good measure, in a token effort to keep the thread in line:
- Men need to wear more make up.

seba_boi

July 22nd, 2006, 07:30 AM

You like Titanic Seba? :blah:
Well, in all fairness, I didn't say I have good taste in movies... I hate to admit it, but I thought White Chicks was funny... Little Man looks like turd though...

:bashful:

Shamagim

July 22nd, 2006, 07:51 AM

Ah, Cwn Annwn, Ilaekae´s full explanation is in post Nº 186 on this page.

-I liked White Chicks too, but is no were near other movies I´ve seen.

- Acting normal in an unusual situation is funnier than making a fool of yourself in the same situation ( example: "Naked gun" series)

-Some Animals are smarter than most people know.

- Human expansion doesn´t necessarily mean the end to other species, some of them are already fully adapted to urban environments to the point of depending on it to survive. ( for example crows in Tokyo, rats....everywere, cats, dogs, pigeons, etc)

-Rainy days are not cheerful, but they sure have a beauty to them.

-"Jackass" is funny in a very primal sense.

- The ending of the tv series "Dark Angel" sucked and it was clear than they bluntly canceled it.

Cwn Annwn

July 22nd, 2006, 08:04 AM

I read it Shamagim, it consisted of a lot of quotes from others with some of his explanantions thrown in.

I'm simply trying to explain to him why people read his post as they did. He (?)isn't shy or tactful about throwing about small comments about English comprehension so I decided maybe a dissection of his original post and why people reacted the way they did.

No one was putting words in his (?) mouth, just trying to illustrate the repugnance of the literal interpretation of the quote, "All people are racists to some degree, and I for one will never accept the Japanese as equals until they drop to their knees and apologize for the crap they did to those non-Japanese from 1932 to 1945." Ilaekae's claim is that people are running away with strange and illogical conclusions from that statement . I'm choosing to disagree.

NoSeRider

July 22nd, 2006, 09:01 AM

I don't like impatient people and I don't like people that act like hardasses.

Contrary to your beliefs.....those people are drama queens, and they are not authority figures, because they are usually the most dramatic people you'll ever find. Rigid thinking people are usually ruled by their emotions, and it's usually anger.

GriNGo

July 22nd, 2006, 01:08 PM

Egon Schiele, author of turd paintings on par with middle age crisis women who pick up a brush for the first time because now they have a little time over and in third grade a teacher told them they had talent but they never got to explore it but now the kids have moved out and they only have the cat to care for so maybe they should try watercolor and do a little exibition at the local mall but they discover that it's harder than they thought to draw and paint so they decide to try to develop a style to hide behind so they can use the "it's a style" excuse for sucking donkeyballs and maybe they get cataract and rheumatism but it seems not being able to draw a straight line and just trembling with the brush all over the canvas actually makes artsy people even more excited so maybe they decide to further that and maybe also just keep drawing the same subject over and over again like for example malshaped people twisted in strange positions.

That's the stupidest thing I have heard in a while. Egon Schielle kicked your ass!

Legalizing drugs will be a major economic change. Drug creation and selling will be a major boost to some countries economies (Afghanistan, Colombia, etc).I'm guessing that they will be much cheaper, people will begin to notice even more and more between quality, maybe even governments will improve research to develop alternate, not so harming variants of drugs. With that, public advertising of drugs will become mainstream that's the only problem, cause then drugs will become as common as breakfast. But as I said, maybe drugs won't be as "bad" as they are now. People can demand more quality from something that is legal than from something that isn't. There would also be some social benefits! Less criminals, less people risking transporting drugs in their innards, and less ugly shit of this type happening.

Mr. Visions

July 22nd, 2006, 01:42 PM

Here's mine fellas -

I think Christians who died in the Roman Coliseum long ago died for a much different Christianity than the norm claim to follow today -

I think it's easier to bash than believe, and that a good majority who do the bashing don't know what their talking about -

I think the U.S. should get out of Iraq and get into Zimbabwe -

I think people in the U.S. can forget about their fellowman outside the U.S. and can become very, very close minded and almost cold -

I think Atheists that bash Christianity and speak of tolerance should practice what they preach -

I think a lot of artist's make too much crap that has no effect or no meaning for the world to grab on to -

I think scientist who believe that their is a God are open minded and humble, and are closer to finding the answers than others - (who would be a good example… oh yes, that’s right, Albert Einstein, a genius.)

Quotes from Einstein from Wikipedia –

I do not think that it is necessarily the case that science and religion are natural opposites. In fact, I think that there is a very close connection between the two. Further, I think that science without religion is lame and, conversely, that religion without science is blind. Both are important and should work hand-in-hand.[25]

I believe that Christianity among many other beliefs and faiths have been used as a source of power in malicious and twisted ways, but that is a reflection upon that person/persons, and not the faith it self. (ex. The swastika, originally a symbol in Hinduism, Jainism, and some Native American Tribes, literally flipped around and used as a symbol for the Nazi Party to invoke hate and fear.)

The Bible is a very valid and inspiring book, and more people might know that if they actually read it.

Christianity and Judaism (which you can’t have the first without the second) are the most persecuted faiths of all time. (oh wait, that’s a fact) This does not excuse them from being guiltless of it, though. In fact, some of that persecution has come from amongst themselves or one another.

The chicken came before the egg.

That Martin Luther King, jr. and the other black figures who fought for equality and his dream would be ashamed of the popularized “black” culture that exists today.

The Green Hornet shouldn’t have been canceled.

X-Men 3 was not a good movie.

Modern Art is like Anime. There are some out there that is awesome, but that is plagued by the reputation of it’s evil twin named Bland.

Women deserve more rights.

Egon Schielle was great (thanks Dan).

- Visions

joelhinxman

July 23rd, 2006, 03:44 PM

-most comics suck

-most anime sucks

-indie and emo girls are cut but most need an ass kickin that goes for the men too

-most white people are boaring and unintersting looking

-spelling is over rated and most people who complain about how a person spells and types cant find much better to get mad at them about

-logic is overrated

-my poo does smell good

-you can have too much sex

-too much sex is a bad thing

-tits can be to big

-most music sucks (there is porbly a million band in the world and not that many are good)

-cerona is the wost beer ever created and if i put a lime in cabinated mexican piss it would taste ok too

-...... ok i ran out of stuff for now

CaptainInsano

July 23rd, 2006, 06:22 PM

Mad Max the Road Warrior, no matter how much I love it... is a gigantic rip off of the Fist of the North Star.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/ParkerD/madmax.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/ParkerD/kenshiro.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/ParkerD/jagi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/ParkerD/humongous.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/ParkerD/road-warrior.jpg

pogonip

July 23rd, 2006, 08:00 PM

911 was facilitated by Americans. It was designed to catapult the country into a defensive posture against what those whom designed and facilitated it feared: Muslims, Arabs, and the idea of a growingly powerful Middle East. It was also designed to make those involved a great sum of money through war contracts and the general business of war.

.

You know Americans in general are very nice and generous people who would would do anything for a neighbor just so you know. I agree that it was put on by the American Goverment but not because they fear the middle east . All the top people in the goverment get there money from special interest groups . Everyone knows that . The middle east is about War money and OIL money nothing else . These people want that money. Also 911 gave the President and all his cronies the power to create Homeland Security and write in new laws which basically make America into a police state . The people who own the World Bank and the American Federal reserve bank want a one world goverment and the structure of that goverment to look more like a monarchy or dictatorship then a free will progresive democratic society . Anyways I could go on and on about this subject but believe me the American people are just ignorent or comfortable at the moment . Once it starts getting to bad though i promise you will see people up in arms .Americans are taught constitutional freedoms from childhood and it's only going to get so bad before something big happens .

Prometheus|ANJ

July 23rd, 2006, 08:30 PM

That's the stupidest thing I have heard in a while. Egon Schielle kicked your ass!

Your factless and mere opinionbased refutal just goes to show the severity of your art illiteracy and lack of taste, furthermore it can not compete with the eloquence of my analogy, which made my point with such astonishing exactitude and faultlessness that God himself sent Seraphim to sing my praise! You lose! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! I fart in your general direction! GOOD DAY SIR!

Cwn Annwn

July 23rd, 2006, 08:51 PM

Your factless and mere opinionbased refutal just goes to show the severity of your art illiteracy and lack of taste, furthermore it can not compete with the eloquence of my analogy, which made my point with such astonishing exactitude and faultlessness that God himself sent Seraphim to sing my praise! You lose! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! I fart in your general direction! GOOD DAY SIR!

You forgot to twirl your cane while wearing your best top hat. The effect isn't quite as stunning now. 8)

Flake

July 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM

-indie and emo girls are cut but most need an ass kickin that goes for the men too
-most white people are boaring and unintersting looking
-cerona is the wost beer ever created and if i put a lime in cabinated mexican piss it would taste ok too
-spelling is over rated and most people who complain about how a person spells and types cant find much better to get mad at them about

Ya, grammUr natzees are teh suck.

Prometheus|ANJ

July 23rd, 2006, 09:09 PM

Ya, grammUr natzees are teh suck.

Wat r u sain? plz refrais teh wvords! ur braken upp! Cam agian plz! Heloo?

Edit: What, contribute to the thread? Whazzat? Hmm ok, here's one: There ABSOLUTELY no fucking reason for a girlie panty to go all the way up to the belly button, or halfway, or one third. Thin white cotton is cheaper to make than say satin or lace, and the smaller you make the panties, the cheaper they are... so girls, this is not rocketscience. You know what to do. Do eeet, noaaw!

Cwn Annwn

July 24th, 2006, 12:52 AM

lol Prom, dood I know you're pretty funny and if your hands dropped off you could probably still make a good living from stand up comedy. But seriously, if you wanna call me an asshat just do it to my face. It'll feel good. For you, and maybe me. mmmmm. asshattery.

For the record Ilaekae still comes off as an awesome dude, he's been tireless and more than helpful in the art techniques section especially when it comes to colour theory. Stuff hits his tender spots, stuff hits my tender spots. Whatever.

But if you have some of them full length panties, send a pair here. I need something cheerful to sniff.

Prometheus|ANJ

July 24th, 2006, 01:42 AM

Que? I don't believe I've been adressing you at all in this thread, Cwn Annwn. Maybe you are refering to the comment about the panties, and you're a girl wearing really huge ones, because in that case I despise you, verily so. The denomination ASSHAT would indeed be well deserved if such was the case!

Oh, I'll have to pretend I have business in this thread aswell. Hmm.

Pokemon is pretty neat.

LCD/TFT monitors are gheyz0rxz.

The only reason to play Beatemup games is the pantyshots.

People with good swirly handwriting are stupid/inane and can only draw simple archetypes and preprogrammed lines.

Drawing/painting traditionally is overrated and less effective.

Finishing stuff is overrated and less effective.

Bread + butter + marmelade + cheese is perfectly okay.

Ketchup, Dressing, Sweet&Sour sauce is awesome on fishsticks, and many other things aswell.

Ilaekae

July 24th, 2006, 01:55 AM

*Ilaekae floats huge Acme anvil over Sweden with 3,275,876 helium-filled rubbers...all coated with hornet pherenomes...*

Prometheus|ANJ

July 24th, 2006, 02:17 AM

Good luck, 3,275,876 helium-filled rubbers would have a lifting power of about 28 tons, which hardly consitutes as huge, esp. given the density of iron.

Ilaekae

July 24th, 2006, 02:21 AM

I'm sorry to say I already figured that out..

Do you think anyone will miss Scranton, PA tomorrow morning?

Cwn Annwn

July 24th, 2006, 02:26 AM

My apologies Prom, see there's my self obsession coming intoplay againz.

Can you still call me names? My dom raised her prices again. :( Free abusings nowz pls.

Prometheus|ANJ

July 24th, 2006, 02:51 AM

The falling anvil might make a 25-50m crater (http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/). You might need to revise your plan. I don't think the hornet setup will work either. You need to think more along the lines of.. a giant waffle. Yees, yeeees, a giant waffle!

And Cwn Annwn, you little perambulated rat dropping, your insignificance is matched only by a little piece of dried bear snot seen by no man because it's lying in an unpopulated forest and even the beetles and snails in the forest does not take any notice of it. So there!

dogfood

July 24th, 2006, 07:52 AM

Minors in the United States do not have rights, they have protections.

Whine not, nor lament, that thy constitutional guarantees are being circumvented, for thou hast none.

NoSeRider

July 24th, 2006, 11:42 AM

We're just one chromosome away from being chimpanzees.http://www.jessicahook.com/conceptart/spam.gif

Lord Dubu

July 24th, 2006, 12:03 PM

Giving non-land-owners the right to vote was the first step on the march toward inevitible american socialism.

Mr. Visions

July 24th, 2006, 12:11 PM

Drawing/painting traditionally is overrated and less effective.

I am speechless:jawdrop: ... all I can say now is wow -

I think you said it best when you stated ...Your factless and mere opinionbased refutal just goes to show the severity of your art illiteracy and lack of taste, furthermore it can not compete with the eloquence of my analogy, which made my point with such astonishing exactitude and faultlessness that God himself sent Seraphim to sing my praise! You lose! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! I fart in your general direction! GOOD DAY SIR!

- Visions

Prometheus|ANJ

July 24th, 2006, 01:28 PM

ORLY? You're saying that UNDO buffers, Color replacement, Palettes, Color picking, Curves, No material cost, Lasso transform and Layers makes you less effective? Oh puhlease. Just because traditional art was first doesn't mean it's superior. Go back to stonecarving if you think that. The knee-jerk compulsion by traditionalists to fight tooth and nail for their moth-eaten medium is flagrantly pathetic and merely a blatant attempt to fart-elevate themselves up on the imaginarey high horse that is 'fine arts'.

That said, I think traditional methods of image production still has a few advantages, but overall, the rapidly evolving digital tools are coming out a winner, just like digital cameras are. The ability to quickly try out ideas makes it the best choice for concept art, imo. A concept artist who has spent an equal time with both mediums will generally find himself working more effectively with digital.

(You didn't make an analogy, so your flagrant attempt at mimicing my brilliance by appliance of copy-pasta is well out of order! Well out of order!)

Mr. Visions

July 24th, 2006, 01:47 PM

Your saying it's less cost effiecent and economical, not proving the effective side of your argument. You do have a point of digital's constant evolving and so forth, but do you carry around a laptop to sketch out ideas and observations of life around you? Can you paint a digital mural like the Sistine Chapel? Can everyone easily make an adjustment with the flip of your wrist without waiting for loading to complete? Don't get me wrong, digital has made things alot easier, but to go as far to say it's overrated and less effective is nonesense. Its still catching up in many senses as a medium. You speak of moth eaten medium, but what about you virus, crashing one? Foundations usually prove to be more effective and alot of the time underrated in the long run, my friend, it's what you grow from. And most artist will tell you that you benefit from having that background, enhancing your digital experience. Not having it is like people not taking the time to study the fundamentals of art itself and then calling themselves "Modern Artists". Now I know I might be getting slightly off topic, but all this adds up in the end. Digital is a quick (for the means od the deadline), highly industrial means of art (not saying it can't be a fine art or doesn't take time, but it's true), so yes, for the concept artist it is ideal. But so is a scanner -

- Visions

NoSeRider

July 24th, 2006, 02:11 PM

I'm better then a scanner.....I am a HUMAN BEING!!

Unpopular opinions that you champion...

Mr. Visions

July 24th, 2006, 02:25 PM

yes noserider, yes you are -

Prometheus|ANJ

July 24th, 2006, 02:48 PM

Visions> I had a little trouble reading through that... You made some a "pointer/referal error" (I'm unsure about the proper grammatical term), like typing 'it's' or 'digital' when you meant 'traditional', and 'less cost effective' should be 'more'?

Anyways, I have used traditional media longer than digital. Learning the foundations does in no way require (cumbersome) traditional tools to be used. A foundation is just a mental library, it doesn't have much to do with on which surface you choose to place your marks on to learn.

As for effectiveness, it comes into play when you have made a mistake and need to fix it. Everyone makes mistakes to a certain degree, and it's just easier to fix them with digital tools. You can also experiment with color choices in a blink of an eye. I shouldn't have to mention how UNDO can be useful. I find myself trying to click it when I paint traditionally, or in some cases I make a bold change or experiment thinking I can just undo it or keep it in a seperate layer. Maybe the other head I drew fits better? BAM, lasso move!

I've never had a virus, but PS has crashed 5 times on me in 5 years, making me lose a total of maybe 2hrs of work in total. I make backups and keep things decentralized, so the risk of losing stuff is slim. A Silverfish ate my expensive watercolor brush recently though, along with some old papers I hadn't scanned. Just storing my papers takes up a third of my studio, and it's quite messy to keep track of all the thousands of papers, even if somewhat organized.

Booting a computer up takes less time than setting up a canvas and palette. However, I agree that it's faster to grab a pencil and paper, and the presence and resolution you get can't be replicated with digital tools, yet. In 15 years we might have Photoshop CS-12 and Painter MXIV running on a 1200dpi wacom paper screen you can roll up and put in your pocket. Ooh, I get a boner just thinking about it!