SSG 27 - The Legacy of Sketching

[Darktwin]

All right boys and girls, this is our SSG thread, lets try to keep her updated. It doesn't have to be updated daily, but lets try to keep her afloat shall we? Since I'm starting this little party, I'll be first to post some stuff I'm been putting down on paper recently as of yesterday.

I've seen some artist on this site do really cool silhouette thumbnails for ideas, because the silhouette is all about reading basic shapes and how they work together to create a unique or interesting concept. Now before doing these I really thought it was going to be easy. Damn I was wrong, they can be really challenging especially for me because I have a bad habbit of drawing the same designs over and over so I really had to push myself to try different ideas, especially when I didn't like where the inital design was going. But the cool thing about using marker is it makes it easy to block in masses and make changes quickly.

Another thing: it didn't seem like it would take very long to fill a page, WRONG AGAIN, the time really ticks by when your engrossed in a creature design, thinking about "what if I try this with the torso, maybe the legs should be inverse, or bent back" So with these thumbnails I was working on creature/alien designs, trying to create different and unique shapes that might inspire me to draw some interesting creatures. So far I'm happy with the progress, A lot of them turned out ok, a lot really bad, but I had a lot of fun doing them.

I would like to get some feedback from the SSG and CA members alike letting me know which ones you like and if you don't like any, ones you hate the most and why? Or both if you want. I've numbered most of them so let me have it. Thanks for viewing everyone.

Draw until your fingers bleed!!!!

page 1
http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch82.jpg

page 2
http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch83.jpg

[Wolfbane]

hehe, awesome Darktwin! here's my submission, know i have allready posted it in my sb,
but its the most recently work i got, so here you go ladies & gentlemen:
my first selfportrait AND speedpaint EVER!!! :P


http://i3.tinypic.com/160x69t.jpg

[Ashrumm]

Awesome Darktwin and Wolfbane i guess i better get started on ssg20 book!! How come i never thought of this!!

[Wolfbane]

hehehe ;) not our idea though :P

[Wolfbane]

To Darktwin:
19, 8, 9, 2, 15 is my favourites :teeth: i love four legged beasts

[Dile_]

Hey guys! im gonna try to do some digitals and post up here soon!
Thanks for takeing your time darktwin!

::: Page 1:::

4, 10 and 16 is the best imho, looks best!

::: Page 2:::

4, 11 and 12 looks very nice, I have to say that all the sillhoutes on page
2 had a higher standard than those on page 1!

Nice work guys!

[Dile_]

Todays shit :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/warmingup.jpg

yeh, I did gave up on this one..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Speedpaints1.jpg

[Wolfbane]

that last one is awesome dile, was hoping that ud work some more on that
one cuz i think it has potential :P Same with the other one too, is it a cityscape painting WIP or just doddle? just curious...

[Dile_]

doddle! :D hey guys, please jump in and comment!!

[Wolfbane]

here's some of my facial expressions :teeth: speed painting again :P this is fun!

http://i5.tinypic.com/161f8u8.jpg

[Dile_]

Nice one kjartan! :D

How about some Reference work from me ?
Speedpaint, lol 20 minutes :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/GirlSpeedie.jpg

[Dile_]

:D


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/SpeedPencil.jpg

[Wolfbane]

awesome updates Dile! think you should try to put some texture on the last
one, u know... my method ;) so u get that rough style! think that the girl
painting is abit soft, but its a quicky :P

i will hopefully do some paintings later today...

[-db-]

Nice stuff!

[Derram]

Hmmm, looking pretty good in here, and intimidating as well. Ah well, more motivation for improvement, the way I see it. I just found out about this here group SB, so I figured I'd contribute. *edit* Anyone want to give out the new sig code? can't seem to figure out had to add the group's SB link.... so much for that high school html clas way back when...

Dile- Love the gas mask, my only thought is; it seemed that the eyes "raised" more in the pencil version. Still rocks though! And 20 mins for the whole body shot? Man I need to get faster.

Wolfbane- You seriously make me want to cry... What can I say, awsome stuff. Your warmup stuff puts some of my best to shame...

Darktwin- I like #3 on page 1 and the two unumbered beasties at the bottom left and right of page 2. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but #1 on page 1 the legs don't match up on size. They're all interesting though. Leaves alot to the imagination, gives me some ideas, heh.

And now for my stuff. I'm just posting my update to my sketch book for today. First a little background. I've been drawing for a while now, but just got serious about it a few months ago. Problem is, before this time I wasn't drawing very consitently, and I was just coping others' drawing (not tracing, copying). I got pretty good at this, but when it comes to original stuff... Anyway, I think my main problem is a lack of confidence when drawing my own stuff. When I look at a picture, I know I can draw it, but stuff from life...
Oh well, thats what pratice is for I assume.

Now, I spent about 10-15 mins per image, execpt the bottom right. Wasn't paying to much attention to the clock by then.
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[Dile_]

Derram: Seriously, put away the anime for now in order to improve.
get the Loomis books or whatever resources/books you can get, check the
library for example! You have pretty confident lines wich does not deserve your
silly anime, sorry.. Anime can look good, but only if its managed right, and
based on the "rules" body structure and so on! You should
check out SINIX here on the forum to see someone who pull this style off well!
Keep it up man! Hope to see alot more from you!

[mir]

You all are so fast.
Darktwin very nice idea with those silhouette thumbnails.I should try some.Do you have a clear idea when you start doing one or does it came afterwards.

And you may all do the same excercise for example to be able to compare your results.But this is just an idea :)
M.

[Dile_]

my project: Fill up A1 page with small gestures figures and other human parts.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ConceptartORG/IMG_0015.jpg

[bangbangteng]

i love that the group is really enthused about the new thread, and i promise to contribute shortly, but i have a concern which i would like to discuss with the rest of "The Legacy"...

I'm currently a student at the Art Institute of California Orange County, more of a trade school, than fine arts, and this has conditioned me in a certain way.

At AI we're expected to take some pretty harsh crits, and not be all beat up. It's expected of students and faculty to be respectful, and mindful of each other's feelings about our work, but there is a certain understanding when it comes to critiquing.

As aspiring(breathing) artists, we should strive to always become better, as we better our selves. That being said, AS LONG AS ITS CONSTRUCTIVE AND OBJECTIVE HARSH CRITS SHOULD BE WELCOMED.

I personally think, that the more a crit scares you, the better. I would like to extend a welcome to anyone willing to be honest and as thorough as possible in their crits of my work.

That being said, I thank anybody who has taken the time to read this LONG ass rant...hahaha...

jon.

hit me hard

[Wolfbane]

YaY updates!

Here's my Creature WIP, will post the hopefully colored version on monday or
tuesday... whenever i get back :)

http://i3.tinypic.com/167mcrn.jpg

[Dile_]

BangBangTeng: Acctually you are completly right.. if I look
at those places in my sketchbook when someone have "betted me up"
I acctually see biggest improvement after that! cause..
something telling me that "I really gonna show this guy what I can do, and then he will laugh in hell " :P and I get to work.. so yyeah your 100% right Teng!
It was just true words , and I think its nice of you takeing the time! so I appreciate it! Crit me hard baby! :D

[Wolfbane]

Oh yeah... here's a random color thing i did, i have no idea what it is
though :P was really inspired by mr.blonde's abstract paintings, thanks dude!

http://i3.tinypic.com/167mphl.jpg

[Darktwin]

Heartbeat: For me I try to have a loose idea in my head before I put the marker down, is the creature going to be 2 legged or 4 legged, low to the ground, or standing upright in natural posture, ectomorphic(skinny build) or large framed? With all these things running through my head I also let the maker take control trying to things I might not like intially.

Derram: hey Derram good start, Interesting anime style, Anime style is kind of limiting but there are a lot of artist out there who have interepreted they're own style with and have been damn successful. So skys the limit man. Keep drawing

its really awesome to see what shapes you guys like, because I know we all are seeing different creatures out of the silouettes.

Dile: Really cool to see you drawing with the pencils also, remember that the tablet is a tool like the pencil, its good to develop both, but I believe the pencil definitly helps with the foundations more. think of the tablet as icing on the cake. Looking good man.

Wolfbane: Nice creature design , nice solid beast. The last piece you did it looks like smoke rising in the sky, or dark clouds. pretty intersting.





i love that the group is really enthused about the new thread, and i promise to contribute shortly, but i have a concern which i would like to discuss with the rest of "The Legacy"...

I'm currently a student at the Art Institute of California Orange County, more of a trade school, than fine arts, and this has conditioned me in a certain way.

At AI we're expected to take some pretty harsh crits, and not be all beat up. It's expected of students and faculty to be respectful, and mindful of each other's feelings about our work, but there is a certain understanding when it comes to critiquing.

As aspiring(breathing) artists, we should strive to always become better, as we better our selves. That being said, AS LONG AS ITS CONSTRUCTIVE AND OBJECTIVE HARSH CRITS SHOULD BE WELCOMED.

I personally think, that the more a crit scares you, the better. I would like to extend a welcome to anyone willing to be honest and as thorough as possible in their crits of my work.

That being said, I thank anybody who has taken the time to read this LONG ass rant...hahaha...

jon.

hit me hard


I'm a student also, at AAU in San Fran, I couldn't agree with you more about being constructive when it comes to critiquing each others work. I think the members of CA in general is good about being honest and constructive with each other. The more honest you are with me, the better. Let me have it if you will. Thanks for taking the time to express how you feel. Look forward to seeing everyones work ^^.

[bangbangteng]

i'll tell you what that is, WolfBane.

ITS THE START OF AN AWESOME PAINTING!

[Derram]

Constructive critiques good! Don't worry about hurting my feelings, I know how much I suck. I'm just concerned with making my current piece better then the last. Hopefully, I'm acutually accomplishing that.


More practice and another self portrait, still dosen't look like me though... I'm guessing the eyes are a bit to big.
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[Dile_]

Thats alot better Derram! nice one! :) keep it up
you should try to draw whats around you, and do lifedrawings from what you see! just keep it up! :)

[Darktwin]

couldn't agree more with what dile said Derram, draw from life as well as from your imagination.

OK here are a few creature concepts I developed from the silloutes, more to come for sure.

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch84.jpg
This creature was based from #9 silouette on the first page.

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch85.jpg
This one is based from #13 on the first page also, more in progress,

let me know what you think,

[Dile_]

Wow! really nice creatures! I like the last one better since I have already
explain the problems with the first one! thanks for keeping this thread busy :P
Im gonna post something later today. so stay tuned :)

[blanquish]

oh yeah guys, nice
looks like a great ssb wish mine were this active
great stuff all round
Darktwin, great siluettes- great way to put down ideas, i think ill try it

[Dile_]

Thanks blanquish! sorry it took to long time before :(


haha.. wanna be high tech :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/wannabetech.jpg

[Dile_]

Sorry for bumping, but I just wanted your attention dear SSG members!

I started a group over at 3.0, however.. its will only post there when I have no image to post here, or important information, or maybe if I need your opinions and such!

Link: http://community.conceptart.org/groups/?id=85

[Derram]

Hey guys, got something from my SB again. I'll be finishing it soon and just wanted some thoughts on it.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3896&d=1151849128

[Dile_]

Post IMG tags instead derram ;) I made my comment in your sb!

uhm.. thought i share my warm up ( 3d studio max - 50 minutes )

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/combine.jpg

[Pixeldragoon]

YaY updates!

Here's my Creature WIP, will post the hopefully colored version on monday or
tuesday... whenever i get back :)

http://i3.tinypic.com/167mcrn.jpg


This sketch by far shows the most maturity out of anything else you have done. The forms in the face and the anatomy are superb, and it's got a rich, distinct style.

Keep it up, kid. (Dile too)

[bangbangteng]

some concepts I worked on for a class last quarter. Not very proud of the craftsmanship on these, but the designs did take some thought. It's a re-imagining of Little Red Riding Hood. :bashful:



http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2655/lrrhfrontcopy9uf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/884/resizewolffront6dl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/4793/resizegranny1sl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7831/resizehunterfront1vx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6250/resizewolfaction24zu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4097/resizeaction2so.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8278/resizehunteraction22mp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dile_]

ah, nice stuff BBT! :D

I like the last one mostly, + the hunter one
keep the ssg alive guys :D

http://filexoom.com/files/4520/mynewavatar.jpg

[Derram]

Heh, I like those. Especially the one w/ red running. Nice rework.

[Darktwin]

BBT, nice variety of characters man, cool spin on Little red. tablet work looks a little muddy, but keep at it man.

[bangbangteng]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7057/richbrody5hz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[bangbangteng]

Darktwin: Yeah, i'm constantly trying to harden my edges... stupid digital paint...haha. i'll keep at it for sure.

Dile: thanks for the support, anything you think i could improve? In addition, your helmet thing, try using either a softer brush or something to take the circles off your nice shiney surface. and u will want to shape the highlight on a round object like that one. Like the target you were aiming for though. kudos.

[Darktwin]

A little portrait study I did, I was experimenting with the hair in vine charcoal, and earasing out, on top again with graphite, a little messy as you can see, but it came out ok. will be posting more work tomorrow, keep up the good work everyone.

yeah bbt, I definitely need to work on a hard edge when digi painting, thats for sure.

[Wolfbane]

that portrait is great darron!
me thinks that you nailed the hair pretty good ;)

[bangbangteng]

yeah, i love the portriat, Darktwin. i think we all could work on translating that kind of comfort level into our digital work.

[bangbangteng]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5106/resizechrissketch1jo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

took me about ten min, and yes, i noticed that i flatend out the face...:nohope:

[jacobsteel]

Cool animals! :D

[Dile_]

Darron, that portrait is a master piece, shiat, awsome!
bbt: nice one as well :D
gotta go now, cya in a couple of days!

[Dile_]

Keeping this thread alive :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/creature.jpg

[Derram]

Like Dile said.

7042
just had to see what it'd look like w/ color

[Dile_]

BUMP. not.

Nice one Derram! you should check out salarymans sketchbook! to
see how he works with shadows and cloths, very inspiring! :)

[Dile_]

Well, since my sb is quite dead for the moment, and im awaiting my
scanner, I feel for posting those doddles/warmups here instead :)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8779/op52qq4.jpg
and
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/doddleJuly.jpg

[Darktwin]

nice work guys,

[Kman.]

Yo, first time posting in the SSG sb, i feel bad =\ but here tis

[Darktwin]

I posted these in my sketchbook, thought I'd share withthe ssg, I feel I need to understand the form and structure of animals in order to make more believable creature concepts. I found an awesome book "Drawing Animals" by Victor Ambrus, His work definitly influinced these quick animal sketches.

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch102.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch103.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch104.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch105.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch106.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch107.jpg

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch108.jpg

[Coen]

Hey Darktwin I love these silhouets, gotta get me some of these copic markers too, kinda hard to find here.
Wolfbane - Very nice expressions on these faces, nice colors too :D

There's really great stuff in this thread, so inspiring. What is this SSG27? Like a sketchbook for everybody or something, or a certain group of people? Anyway, it's nice :D

[Dile_]

Coen: Yes its a little group of people ( who at the moment is quite unactive.)
Go to the lounge section and you find an Sketch Support Group thread :)
you can sign up for the newest groups of start one your self :)
So the SSG's are mostly done for commenting eachothers, and is good
for us who feel we dont get enough crits and so on :)
Im in the SSG cause I feel they are sooo damn nice to me :) whic also motivates me!

[tensai]

darktwin - nice animal sketches man. love the loose marks and texture they have.

[oma]

this one > http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4529&stc=1&d=1152260336 is realy cool... your drawings dig me.. keep posting plz ;P.... and awesome teacher you got...

i get one a week lesson from a 74 year old teacher... starting in september..

[Sickbrush]

keep it up guys.. wish i could join u soon :)

[Dile_]

Your welcome slayer :D

ok, i post this in my own book when I finish it..im so uncretive.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2086/guyfc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sickbrush]

hehe, thx guys, glad to be aboard..
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Xytech/toitle.jpg

[Darktwin]

Good work Dile, really nice to see the whole figure of your character. Proportions look pretty good. Welcome Slayer, glad to have you aboard, Nice work I'll be visiting your sb soon.

[Darktwin]

Here is a rough structure drawing before I add value. structure is the key to getting believeable looking faces. Angle of the face and portions are key. here is an example mentler posted in his exclusive sb. Read post number 2, check it out, great info

here
(http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=72577)
http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch122.jpg

[Darktwin]

After the structure was laid out, It took about a good hour for me to due the value. I used a b and 3b pencil when rendering this piece out. I accidently drew this study in my rougher grade sb, so I didn't blend because it tends to smear, but I like the effect of straight pencil without the blending every now and again.

http://onajii.com/d_sketches/sketch123.jpg

[Dile_]

shit.... :jawdrop:

[glikster]

that's awesome... simply sweet!

[Ashrumm]

Now that i am a new member of this sketchgroup its time i guess i post work here as well!!

my latest portrait
http://onajii.com/a_sketches/portrait_6.jpg

[O D T]

great pencil stuff! I love your avatar too! Your pencils are obviously way ahead of your digitals...
cheers, n.

[Sickbrush]

just got back from a small vacation on the seaside ..
now let's get'em rolling boys.. early mornin sketch.. best my coffee could do :dead:

[Sickbrush]

come on ppl, work with me...
10 mins.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Xytech/dianne/darkside001.jpg

[Dile_]

wow awsome Slayer :D I be joining in soon :)

[Sickbrush]

i thought a face render would be helpful. enjoy.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Xytech/dianne/face_of_a_twin.jpg

[Sickbrush]

where did everybody go?
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Xytech/hanimalz1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Xytech/hanimalz2.jpg

[MattiasA]

Great sketches, love the eagle

[enthombed]

hey great, group sketch here, i really like the animal sketchs.

Keep Killing