A bird Man

[Jelly_Donut]

Greetings. I'm working on concepting a bird man. I see this character existing in some kind of fantasy world where battles are possible faught in the sky with people wearing these bird costume type things. I want to do a short comic after I finish concepting some things, but I'm not sure. It would be mostly for anatomy study.

But anyway this is the picture- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Crystallus/birdman.jpg

I really want critiques on anatomy and overall concept.

I ALSO really want advice on how I can set up the wings. I'm happy with the helmet, but I want the wings to be functional. I'm thinking maybe this world can be technologically advance enough to kind of fuse these wings into the body so the person can use those muscles beside the shoulder blades (I think that's the right muscle, need to research) or possibly the shoulder blades themselves in order to manipulate the wings.

I need help figuring out a good design for these wings as well... so if anyone has any ideas they can give me to give me something to work from that would be very helpful.

[Infinit]

the bigest problem of men with wings is that, to carry a normal guy, they have to be 10 m wide!!!
to power them with muscles they got to be HUGE

so:
eighter bend the rules of physic
or make up a power source that is small and strong

the propotions are ok so far
next time post a biger pic pls

[Jelly_Donut]

thanks! I was actualling thinking about maybe having these people who fight in the sky maybe creatures of the wind... or descendents of some other race or something... I'll research some bird machanics and think up some reasoning behind their ability, but I also don't think there would be to much problems with suspending the natural laws of physics for a story such as this.

The thing about larger pictures - Next time I post anything I will make it larger, as for this picture my scanner kinda started messing up after I scanned in that pic so I'm working on fixing it at the moment, when it is I will re-scan it and post it larger.

Thanks for taking the time to critique

[Jelly_Donut]

Okay I have a larger picture of it now. - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/34866222/


I also have this, which I drew without any reference to test anatomy and forshortening so any comments/critiques would be awesome!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/34866389/


On a side note - I've posted both of these pictures in my journal, is there a problem with posting it bother there and here?

[Zombat]

The one thing that reaches out and smacks me in the face is that the legs seem much too long ... initially I had thought the figure was a girl because of this. Atop that, they're a little spindly ... the ankle is about as wide as the wrist, and this strikes me as odd. Also, from the hips to the ribcage the skin goes in a little too far - on men muscles are a lot more prominent there, and as a result, such a pinch usually isn't seen.

To fix this, I would widen it on his back, not so much his front, because the back is bent a little too far, and adding more there would kill two birds with one stone.

On the arms, the upper arms are just a smidgen too long, the forearms not long enough. Plus the tricep/bicep areas are a little off - you've illustrated the bicep as though you were viewing it from frontal-inside, where the line in the center of the arm would be appropriate. Whereas, we're looking at the arm from a dorsal-outside view, where the tricep's illustration should be of greater importance, and thus the line should be changed accordingly.

Also, the right shoulder should be a little larger on the left side.

Hope this helps, keep it up!

[Jelly_Donut]

The one thing that reaches out and smacks me in the face is that the legs seem much too long ... initially I had thought the figure was a girl because of this. Atop that, they're a little spindly ... the ankle is about as wide as the wrist, and this strikes me as odd. Also, from the hips to the ribcage the skin goes in a little too far - on men muscles are a lot more prominent there, and as a result, such a pinch usually isn't seen.

To fix this, I would widen it on his back, not so much his front, because the back is bent a little too far, and adding more there would kill two birds with one stone.

On the arms, the upper arms are just a smidgen too long, the forearms not long enough. Plus the tricep/bicep areas are a little off - you've illustrated the bicep as though you were viewing it from frontal-inside, where the line in the center of the arm would be appropriate. Whereas, we're looking at the arm from a dorsal-outside view, where the tricep's illustration should be of greater importance, and thus the line should be changed accordingly.

Also, the right shoulder should be a little larger on the left side.

Hope this helps, keep it up!

I think what I was trying to captivate with the back is him leaning himself backwards a bit... I see exactly what your talking about and will try and fix it accordingly.

As for the legs, that actually popped out at me too before I even posted. I will try and fix those.

The bicep I will get some examples or something, I've never spent much time drawing back views before so this has been mostly practice for that.

I will work on the arms too.

THank you so much for your time and effort in critiqueing this. I loved the detail in your critique.

[ColorBlindArtist]

the perspective on the straps is off. we're looking at him at an angle, so we should not be able to see the buckle as a full circle. it should be drawn more like an oval.