View Full Version : Art Nouveau'ish (warning! nudity!)
squidmonk3j
June 9th, 2006, 05:52 PM
inspired by mucha's Rose panneux...
all crits appreciated!
http://i5.tinypic.com/1267co1.jpg
evidence
June 9th, 2006, 06:02 PM
did you mean Art Nouveauish?
this could have been better looking if the nudity was more subtle
squidmonk3j
June 9th, 2006, 06:51 PM
doh! of course.....sry!
i intended to comment on the symbology of the rose, giving a more erotic interpretation. thus the re-occuring greens and reds. but, is the nudity bothersome ( or simply vulgar) ?
Phuzion
June 9th, 2006, 07:08 PM
there are some anatomical issues, mainly from the waist down. Her weight is on her right leg, but her left hip is the one carrying the weight. Also, where the thigh meets the groin on her right side... the thigh should be overlapping in front of the groin for propper depth perseption. Then, the outer side of her right knee looks swollen, and watch those thighs!! They're bending waaaay too much. I'm also not a fan of that blank background. It just looks like you couldn't think of anything, or you just didn't want to put anything there. And lastly, I feel like her drapery is too simply treated when compared to the detail of the roses...
But! On a technical level, I think it is well done! Keep it up man!
Peace,
-Daniel
BlackMath
June 9th, 2006, 07:46 PM
I think I seen this chick/dude walking down Santa Monica Blvd yesterday.
But seriously it's good effort but the anatomy is way off not just waist down ( ie her thighs) . Something else looks a little weird and I think it's that her head is too small or her left eye is pullin a Shannon Dougherty!
http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Shannen_Doherty/ShannonDough_JMcCarth_6370627.jpg
And as far as the flower goes I think it would be better if you went more "sneak-a-peek" rather than " full curtain spread " . .... Just a thought
Elwell
June 9th, 2006, 08:10 PM
Well, I gotta tell ya'...
There's a fundamental conceptual problem here, which is that it's obviously supposed to be sexy, and it's just not. The wonky eyes, the horse nose, the mashed potato breasts, the claw hands, the awkward pose, the bowed legs... everything conspires to work against the feeling you are trying to create. None of those things would be such glaring flaws if we didn't have the beaver shot, but once you have that, everything else had better back it up.
squidmonk3j
June 9th, 2006, 08:12 PM
phuzion: great crits - much appreciated! (...dunno how i overlooked the thigh not protruding!! as for the other stuff, you're absolutely right! )
black: heh! actually, i think it's both her head IS small and her eyes are crooked. imo, the slight facial distortion is ok - the tiny head is not! i tend to miscalculate the size of the face when drawing heads at angles...need to work on this! also, her nose is too big (bad lighting)...i THINK that might account for the "transsexual" look!:D
hm. mebbe i should redo this then...
squidmonk3j
June 9th, 2006, 08:18 PM
elwell: points duly taken! thank you very much for taking the time:) ...and that settles it - i'm gonna do a second attempt.
plz someone move this to the wip section. i should've had the sense to post it there myself. maxima mea culpa!
VashTheStampede
June 9th, 2006, 09:15 PM
i would also look at widening her hips slightly. "beanpole" is only sexy on the fashion floor. usually a woman with the upper proportions that she has, also has a bit more curve on the lower end.
i do really like your coloring though. cant wait to see round 2.
Zergaloth
June 10th, 2006, 04:49 AM
Haha, why would she do that!?
:-D
Too bad you have these anatomical issues.
L. Scott Knight
June 10th, 2006, 11:01 AM
I'm glad you are doing this over.
My suggestion is to widen the groin area a bit. As we used to call it, giver her some air. The legs come together where there should be a bit of space. This would allow you to widen her hips a bit thus giving her some curves.
The face is OK except that the nose just comes too low. She has almost no upper lip. I think you were trying to have her face tilted and slightly turned which is a great pose to go with but then the render tweaked it. The hair line contributed a lot to turning the head back the other way making it look tweaked, IMHO.
I also suggest lowering one hand a bit so as to not be exactly even.
Her dress could use more depth work such as at least one more level of shade to shade the folds and the upper portions of the inside. If this were a more detailed design (i.e., more realism than simple colors) I would suggest a background that be slightly seen through the dress, making it look a little shear. However, Phuzon is right -about everything but specifically- about having some sort of background. To fit this look it should be simple but not just flat color. Perhaps consider where she is. A Tavern, a stage, a meddow? Maybe an out of focus (slightly) willow tree? (Too out of focus would be a photographic effect no fitting of the era.)
All in all, it's a cute idea and look forward to seeing it in v2!
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