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paberu
May 5th, 2006, 10:48 PM
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[sketch book banner - "white" "dream" "wind"]
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Introduction: (if you care to read about me)
Hello there,
I've been meaning to join this place for a while, but have been too scared... Anyway I guess I should give an introduction about myself:
My name is Pavel , I'm currently a university student down in Australia. I've never really took art seriously until I graduated school. So throughout my childhood I've been playing games, reading books (I love sci-fi) and making websites. It's been a bit more then 2 years since I've taken up drawing (started 2004), so I've been trying to work hard so I can catch up to everyone. I like drawing anime/manga and sci-fi stuff. I also like to do some life landscape drawings.
edit:
Well, I had some crap here written about how I'm gonna post my rough work here and such, but in fact I'll post most things here. I'll keep this bit, you see I come from deviantART - my deviantART gallery (http://rayk.deviantart.com)(yeah go and laugh) , but I'm not quite sure why I didn't join CA earlier. Who knows, I might have been a much better artist now.
so... little doodle I did in one of my classes.
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that's about it for now (more coming soon), so another rough work:
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Ok attachment for the sake of having a thumb!
Halos Chain
May 6th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Hi there raykart! Welcome to :yayca: I'm sure you'll find a friendly helpful community. : ) liking your stuff! especially the first sketch of the girl~cute! It looks good for you having not been drawing for that long, please post more m8! : ) cya round, I'll keep an eye on this thread.
bhanu
May 6th, 2006, 12:50 AM
So lifes good after gradiating school,isnt it ?:P
FIrst of all wlecome to the forums.
correct the link to your page at deviantart.Woah , all those look good for anime.DOwn the old path is my fav. Although anatomy has some problems but its really nice.Now start posting.
Enjoy life here.
paberu
May 6th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Halos Chain: Thank you! Btw, I'm usually known as "rayk", but some one had that already here so I chose the second variant of "raykart".
bhanu: Haha yeah, after finishing school life has become so much better :D. Thank you for spotting typo >__< (I'm such a shocker with them). Thanks for your comment.
I'll try posting here as much as I can :D!
I will also probably reply in "batch" mode, so that I don't spam the forum with my sketchbook :|)
paberu
May 18th, 2006, 08:20 AM
Guh time flyies... haven't had too many chances to do much work, but here i s sketch " bus stop: cloud shop". Been very inspired by - http://tksn.web.infoseek.co.jp/ (http://tksn.web.infoseek.co.jp/) empire boys work. I really love those enviromental art he has.
Well here is the sketch, gonna paint it when I get a chance (pardon the random japanese, it's more or less self learning practice):
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Kaoru
June 9th, 2006, 02:41 AM
You're good at writing kanji!! :D
And... very cute sketch of the train. ;_;
paberu
August 2nd, 2006, 07:39 PM
Ok long time no update, so a bit of an image dump.
First up a quick warm up space ship drawing/sketch.
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Another space ship quickie
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some sculpture work I began... but haven't finished :|
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some hyung tae kim study (htk ref + own interp)
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a drawing I'm gonna color soon
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Tis about it for new :)
Cwn Annwn
August 2nd, 2006, 08:56 PM
Hey rayk!
Nice to see you updating finally!
Not bad, but the anatomy is looking a bit shaky in your pics, even accounting for the stylisation. Watch out for cutting the backs off skulls as well.
I'd love to see a few life studies and gestural scribbles thrown in here. Let's see some more updates eh? :)
paberu
August 11th, 2006, 03:47 AM
Ok more updates are here! :D:blahblah:
sue: Thanks! I'm trying to find some life drawing classes in my area currently, so I hope I'll have some life drawing to post soon.
Anyway here are some new stuff from me:
Title page for my sketchbook, have mixed views on it :^^;: Gonna colour with copics when I get the chance, might improve it a tad from it's current state.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/sb_title_040806.jpg
Some environment stuff, the drawing kinda grew out of a house I was doodling in the upper left corner. Pretty happy with the result, might make a painting using a part of it at some later time.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/kadoya_sktch_110806.jpg
That's about it for now, will try to get more stuff happening.
guitarjames
August 12th, 2006, 07:21 AM
looking nice espeicially that last one ,but as cwn anwwn said watch the anatomy and get some more colour/rendered pics up
ps. draw evryday
james.
fedezz
August 12th, 2006, 08:19 PM
Your first image (sb banner) has to be my favorite. That last enviroment is looking good too, perhaps it needs a more assertive and clean linework, like the one you used in your weapon's ortho.
Keep 'em coming and welcome to the SSG!
gmags
August 12th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Hey Rayk, cool style you got!!! Those enviros you did look nice!! Keep the good stuff coming. :yayca:
Blue Severin
August 13th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Damn, I didn't know we had a new member. Welcome to the SSG man. Pretty sweet for two years of drawing. Post more stuff and we'll help you out with crits and the like.
Fishspawn
August 13th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Welcome to the SSG! I like your linework. Work on hands and realistic proportions - both will greatly improve your stylized work. Keep drawing and update often!
Stark
August 16th, 2006, 01:54 PM
Welcome to the SSG! I like the style (anime though it is). Try some full body shots and see where your anat stands at. I read about the anatomy dysfunctions and that can be taken care of with a few references from either Louis Gordon, Stephen R. Peck, or Loomis.
Again, welcome and try to update everyday...will help you alot
paberu
August 18th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Updates!!! w00t! I had a big assignment due in yesterday hence why I couldn't update earlier. Well to the new stuff!
I'm gonna put stuff in order of completion so from oldest to newest.
This is just random organic study, plus trying copics out in the moleskine (forgot to spray fixative before using them... so colours got mudled a bit). Spore inspired!
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/organics_page_160806.jpg
Ok, now some more enviro! This time with animu included :bashful: ! It's called morning dialogue cos the girl is talking with that bird thing (think rodent, mixed with bird that can swim) if you can see it (should have punched the values on the bird..) Some place as the other one. I'm kinda tired of sci-fi right now :(.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/morning_dialogue_180806.jpg
guitarjames: cheers! I try to draw everyday now :).. anatomy is yeah... an issue
fedezz: Will work on having cleaner lines and more assertion! :yayca:
Fishspawn: hands, yeah those things annoy me!!!
Everyone else, thanks guys! Will try to keep this as update regularly as I can! Sometimes course work has other ideas on what my free time should be used on :(.
Cwn Annwn
August 18th, 2006, 11:39 PM
The second pic is cute, the first enviro I'll admit isn't convincing me. I think some studies of real landscapes and botanics will help. The plants just don't look...planty enough.
:(
Keep it up Rayk. ^^
Idiot Apathy
August 19th, 2006, 04:38 AM
この しゃせいちょう は おもしろそう だよ!
Gunna stay tuned, liking the enviroments and characters.
guitarjames
August 20th, 2006, 04:10 PM
whehey an update:P yah no crits so keep it up:)
james
Fishspawn
August 23rd, 2006, 02:08 AM
Cool enviro sketches. Yeah, the bird is difficult to see. Keep drawing.
paberu
August 23rd, 2006, 04:21 AM
Ok updates!!! Nothing really that ground braking, but it's better then nothing :) ne?
This is a quick drawing I did to show how to work in perspective for one of my friends artworks (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75164), but I kinda put a funny spin on it which gave me a few ideas. Very rough, but I will keep working this idea up when I get time.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lollercaust_200806.jpg
Was doing one of my shape drawing warm up exercises last night, I only spend a few minutes on them usually (just drawing basic squares and such to get my arm flowing), but this one kinda grew and ended up investing about an hour or so in it (and going to bed late when I had a 5am get up :zzz: ).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/fire_robot_220806.jpg
Well that's about it, I have another drawing which I started in my moleskine so I might be able to finish it soon. Oh shameless plug, but please welcome my friend who's joined up CA!! - Shakken's SB (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75476)
guitarjames
August 23rd, 2006, 01:40 PM
well looks good , nothing to crit on the first one as it more of a explanation , but on the secod one i think you could push the values and leace less white, also the cat looks as if hes about to fall off unless hes suposed to be doing that?
james
Fishspawn
August 24th, 2006, 01:19 AM
That is a cool idea on that first one. Hehe i love the cat on top of the giant machine. Keep up the daily sketchfood.
Punchy
August 24th, 2006, 03:28 AM
wow! I love your sketches, some really fun stuff here. I really dig that cat in the robot and your cities. sooo cool.=)
paberu
August 24th, 2006, 04:00 AM
Yeah, more updates to my スケッチュー ブック ロル~! :meow:
*ahem* anyway it's more my bad stuff update then good, but bad art is part of learning too!!!
guitarjames: :) That's that highest the HB values will go on that paper, I happened to make a mistake of buying really cheapo paper album so now I'm trying to use it up by doodling and warming up on it. (the paper sucks so much that the HB looks like H or 2H pencil).
Fishspawn, Punchy: Thanks guys, will try to keep the artworking flowing in. But some times it might not be that great as today one... :nohope:
Ok time for the sketches!
This is a doodle I did today while watching a feng dvd "quick sketching" (love my uni library), nothing much but thought it kinda had a cool idea there.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/junk_ship_240806.jpg
I've started on this one few days ago, but ended up ruining it... I ended up playing around with different techniques and approaches to much, so I should prob hold on to going so heavy. Well good learning experience.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/tree_temple_230806.jpg
I got around to colouring my moleskine sketchbook title page! But while I think it looks better now, I somehow ended up totally ruining the eyes :( . I also wish I lived in asia so I didn't need to import copic sketch markers from usa!!! くそ! Lol I love how awfully wrong the arm is :D
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/sb_iro_title_240806.jpg
Well that's all for now, hope I can make some better stuff to post next time, sorry if I dissapointed anyone... I tried my best, but not always you get the results that you want.
Ferdinand Venter
August 24th, 2006, 04:27 AM
Nice stuff, focus more on hatching and values it makes the line work confusing for the 2nd last drawing keep up man
sleep
August 24th, 2006, 05:08 AM
ohh you have a really cute style... what i'm seeing a lot of though, is just bust shots of anime characters. i know maybe it's not the style you're going for, but a bit more lifedrawing would do much good. some finished digital stuff also?
take care
Cwn Annwn
August 24th, 2006, 11:17 AM
hey there again!
Nice to see you updating again so soon.
On the last batch - the coloured anime girl has a few anatomical issues. Her arm holding the paintbrush looks both bowed and too long and her eyes are a bit off.
Also with your machines, adding a bit more value to the pic will help give them form and weight.
Yes I know I'm repeating myself and every one else, but a life study or few would be awesome too.
Good to see you working hard though.
Fishspawn
August 24th, 2006, 11:50 PM
Put me on the list of rayk-should-life-draw-ites. Ahem. I think you could fix that middle drawing by darkening up some parts really black, if you wanted to. Keep up the drawing, good or bad it will help you improve!
paberu
August 27th, 2006, 06:38 AM
Ok, some minor updates! (Mainly cos I wanted to show my nude from ref drawing).
Cwn Annwn: Yeah, I realised how broken that artwork was after I applied fixative to it. :dead: I think the colour helped it a tiny bit.
tie, Fishspawn, Cwn Annwn: Life drawing is coming on 7th!! If all goes to plan :D!!!
Ok now for some art!
This is a doodle I did, I kinda like some of the ideas going on there. The stick figure in the upper left is gonna be a charecter drawing I'm gonna do soon. Oh and I've been working on drawing straight lines freehand! :D
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/doodles_270806.jpg
This is a photo of my drawing desk, I mainly use it for copics, sculping and anything else that requires lots of room. Otherwise I draw and doodle infront of my comp.
Well that's all for now, been trying to draw everyday! Even if it's a 2cm x 2cm drawing.
Fishspawn
August 27th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Cool update. The womans head looks a little too big. I also think the shadows on her stomach/shoulders are too much contrast, maybe try toning the rest of the skin and pulling some highlights out? Good page of sketches. I should really set up a space to draw like that, for doing still lifes, but i'm too lazy :/. Great to see you drawing every day and updating almost that often, its a good practice to get into!
Cwn Annwn
August 28th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Hey rayk, good to see you updating regularly.
The sketch of the woman looks a little odd. Her legs look like sticks without any muscle definition and she looks a little bit stiff. Watch out for the wrists and arm proportions too.
guitarjames
August 29th, 2006, 03:15 PM
hey .. nice updates .. um keep up the anatomy and the drawing evryday even if it a 2x2 peice as you said ..also more life studies
james.
paberu
August 30th, 2006, 08:17 PM
オーケー!!!
Happy news everyone, I went to life drawing yesterday :D! It was untutored, but still very good. It's weekly, so I will be going there every week hopefully :meow: . I've comped together my better stuff.
These were 5 min poses I think.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_300806.jpg
We finished off with 2 30 min poses.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_300806.jpg
Well that's about it for now. I've got a few more things to finish up, so hopefully not too long till next update! (I don't really like drawing from life as the stuff turns out a bit boring for me).
:yayca:
Chiko
August 30th, 2006, 08:30 PM
You have some really nice sense of color and figure.
Your anatomy is great, but you need to get away from the biged eyed anime faces.
Thats one of my biggest problems was I was drawing anime so long all my faces started to look the same!
Really good work and keep it up! Nice to see an amateur in there too, I know I hate twisting all that wire but its worth it.
ender.saka
August 30th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Even if I do not like Japan style, I think you have a great control over perspective and environment, and placing characters in them.
Fishspawn
August 31st, 2006, 11:31 PM
Great to see you life drawing. If it's not interesting, make it interesting! Take the model's body, make it proportionate and get the pose right, and then make it into an alien or a monster or something, and keep looking at the model to make sure you're basics aren't going off track. You can also use the model to help shade it. There's nothing saying you have to go for complete realistic drafting. Keep up the good work.
guitarjames
September 1st, 2006, 05:49 PM
yay a life drawing.some of the proportions right but notthign practice wont fix so keep learning
james
paberu
September 2nd, 2006, 07:20 AM
アプデット 時間 だ!
Ok was gonna update with more, but I have assignment to work on.
Chiko: Why do I need to get away from biged eyed anime faces? I draw realistic life drawing so I don't see myself running into problems. I'll try varying the types of characters I draw however.
ender.saka: Ahh thank you, I know not everyone is a fan of anime/manga style. But that's where I get my inspiration from :).
Fishspaw: Interesting ideas there!!! :D Shall try something this wednesday!
Well FIRST of all PLEASE WATCH my motion graphics poromo!!!
--> Brush Samurai poromo ( 5mb ) (http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/brush_samurai_lowq.mov) <--
It's in Quicktime, so please install Quicktime Alternative (http://www.codecguide.com/download_qt.htm) if you don't have it.
Well first up is the drawing I used in it. I'm happy of it because of the time it took me to do it (twice as fast as it would normally take me!!!)
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/brush_samuraiv01_310806.jpg
This is colour version from animation:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/brush_samurai_anim_310806.jpg
Decided to take that further and made a paint up! (roughly took me an hour or so, also a great surprise in my speed improvement!)
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/brush_samurai_colour_020906.jpg
Tis it for now, hope you enjoyed my update! Thanks for all the support people, I really appreciate it. :^^:
character
September 2nd, 2006, 10:40 AM
some great stuff here. i like your use of colors on some of these pieces. i see you have some of the same problems that i do and that's not drawing enough action/non-stiff poses. try adding some foreshortening to your figures so that they're in more interesting gestures. hope that helps =)
Fishspawn
September 3rd, 2006, 12:26 AM
Yo. Awesome character design. I didn't get to watch the video yet, but i'm looking forward to it :) I noticed your reply to Chiko, and i think that your anime experience is influencing your life drawing and making it more cartoonish, even if you aren't aware of it. I know i have the same problem, and the only way i can figure to fix it is by doing proportion studies alot. Anyway, great char design, and i look forward to more life drawing :)
crazy3dman
September 3rd, 2006, 12:34 AM
That environment piece you posted on the 11th of Aug is great! Lot of nice sketches in here.
I watched the video. Very nice. I really like the part where all the plants are coming up. My only crit on the video would be that some of the camera movements feel too mechanical. The art is so organic, it would feel nice if the camera mon=vements were smoother.
I'll be checking back.
guitarjames
September 3rd, 2006, 05:49 AM
nice character ...well yeh bout to watch the video
keep it up
james
the video was good :)
tensai
September 3rd, 2006, 11:14 AM
http://www.artbypavel.com/ca_imgs/kadoya_sktch_110806.jpg
:x great environment man. i love how it is tilted and not totally totally correct, which gives it a bit more energy. dont know what else to say. (except maybe that you wrote kaku instead of sakana there?)
keep it up man
gmags
September 4th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Hey Rayk,
Nice updates bro!! This piece looks pretty sweet!! Keep up the good work!! :yayca:
http://www.artbypavel.com/ca_imgs/morning_dialogue_180806.jpg
Dreamworker
September 5th, 2006, 04:39 AM
Very good drawing skills!! I like your style and this SB is full of nice pictures.
Keep it up, cheers ;)
JERI
September 5th, 2006, 05:39 AM
Lemme guess, you like Imperial Boy too? :)
Can see some of his influence there.
paberu
September 7th, 2006, 01:39 AM
Ok, I always have a hectic first half of the week so I don't update for a few days. Well decided to update now, to get some of my drawings up (while I finish others).
character: Yeah, gotta force myself to make more dynamic figures. Keep forgetting, thanks for pointing it out!
Fishspawn: Ahh I see, gotta watch it then.
crazy3dman: Yeah I get the really stiff mechanical feel too.
tensai: Thanks tensai, I wonted to write " corner shop ", kado ya. Those aren't the charecters I should have used?
JERI: I love his work to death, it's really amazing. It feels like a trip down some really cool and crazy world when I look at his work.
Ok now some art, Wednesday is life drawing so here are some of the drawings form it.
Few quick poses for warm up:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_060906.jpg
These were the longer poses, some of those were 15 min and some 30... I was feeling tired so I did some "fun with life drawing" as Fishspawn suggested.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_060906.jpg
Ok a quick environment I drew from library window:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/building_quick_060906.jpg
Thanks guys. Don't be afraid to cut in and tear stuff up :yayca:!
Punchy
September 7th, 2006, 02:37 AM
I dig the little environment sketch....
Fishspawn
September 7th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Yo, nice update. The limbs look a little strange on that guy, but he may have just been a strange looking guy. One thing i notice is that you tend to make all of your shadows hard shadows. There are lots of different types of shadows, like cast shadows, core shadows, reflected light, etc. It would do you well to research them a little and try and work that knowledge into you stuff, i think it would add a new level of realism. Great enviro, keep up the good work.
Blue Severin
September 9th, 2006, 11:29 PM
Good to see life studies as well as the anime influence. I like the little Feng DVD sketches too. I guess one crit would be to shade for overall volume, not just individual little details. Simplify it. Here's are some examlples of what I mean http://community.conceptart.org/gallery/I/2005/01/01/13264.jpg and
http://community.conceptart.org/gallery/I/2005/01/01/13266.jpg. Get the overall masses to have volume, then add detail. Hope that helps.
fedezz
September 9th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Blue Severin's advice is spot on.
I dig the two figures from the top in the second sheet of gestures. They have a nice stylized feel to them. Schiele keeps coming to my mind.
Keep doing those anatomical studies, what you learn from them is priceless.
Cheers!
Niva.
September 10th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Helly Rayk,
You have a nice anime style going.
paberu
September 10th, 2006, 03:10 AM
Time for some updates
Fishspawn, Blue Severin: Thanks guys! Definitely gonna try working on that. I was starting to get stuck with how I render with pencil.
fedezz, n1va: Thanks guys, I'm going to the untutored drawing every week now :).
Ok this is an enviro I've been working on for a while, had to redraw it a few times. Still not right... oh well maybe colouring will fix it.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/window_esc_090906.jpg
Coloured one of the anime drawings I had lying around my desk (have line art near start of my sb). Can't believe it's been more then a month since I drew it. Copics. (inking is a bitch)
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/brushhime_copic_100906.jpg
Well tis it, life drawing wednesday so next update will hopefully have more life drawing.
TheChosenOne_RHP
September 10th, 2006, 03:32 AM
hmm this last one you did, has to be my favorite out've them all :teeth: , aside form the anatomy work, the choice of colors you use are supurb :tihi: keep up the work on the Anime 8) , I'll be watching for more :yayca:
Fishspawn
September 12th, 2006, 06:21 PM
Hey rayk. I'm not usually in support of rulers, but you may want to use one to help straigthen the lines on your enviro. The main problem i see is that everything leans to the left, i don't know if it was intended or not but it looks odd. Only problem with the girl is the breasts, they are wrong in a lot of ways >.> Anyway, keep up the good work, i look forward to more.
Nyako
September 12th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Wow, your sketchbook looks so cool!
Yes, it is a useless commentary but I couldn't help myself.
paberu
September 14th, 2006, 01:01 AM
TheChosenOne_RHP: Thanks, I really love working with colour - I just don't get many chances to do it (stupid uni work :zzz: ).
Fishspawn: Yeah, I was thinking exact same thing! I think for main perspective lines and construction I should use a ruler and then everything else I will be fine to freehand. You should have seen the version before that, it was leaning left even more ahahaha.
Nyako: :)
Ok life drawing yesterday, I've been really tired mentally as of late. It gets really depressing when what you study is at large irrelevant to your chosen path.
Well no excuses for the quality, I still put my best effort into this but it turned out rather pathetic.
Warm ups and 5 - 15 min poses I think
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_130906.jpg
30 min poses
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_130906.jpg
Maybe I've fallen into a slump. No clue, I know that I have to push through no matter what. Sorry for my whining.
Blue Severin
September 14th, 2006, 02:07 AM
Better already, keep working it. Yeah, I know how the whole slump thing goes. Get some rest, have some fun, then get back to it.
KaWaii
September 14th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Hey there, dropped by accidentally but good thing I did ^^.
Nice work, can see you're growing bit by bit.
Your environments are the stronger pieces in my opinion. Only thing I can say is watch out for characters.
In both the environment + girl in front of window there seem to be some minor problem. The first girl looks like she's banged her head against the roof. The second girl's lower body looks like it's inside the wall. Think that's because she hangs out of the window but not bending her body.
Maybe I sound a bit harsh, but just trying to crit :P
Btw, I'm a anime lover hehe. Good to see other anime artists. Keep it up !
Fishspawn
September 15th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Hey, rayk, nice update. I completely understand the slump thing (in fact most of the time i feel that way!), best thing to do is just to keep drawing. by building onto the habit you strenthen yourself for when you feel more like it. Those figures are looking better. I'd reccomend trying them in charcoal. I find it to be great for flowy gestures and good for tight rendering on longer poses. Keep fighting the fight, we're rooting for you :)
fedezz
September 15th, 2006, 03:47 PM
Yep, definitely showing improvements in the shading deparment, specially here (http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_130906.jpg). And don't worry, slumps are usually on the mind of the artist. You just need to look at your work with fresh eyes, do what severin says, and then get back to it. This is all about having fun. When you're not having fun, no matter how good an artist you are, it's worthless. So keep it up, you're doing great, believe me.
paberu
September 17th, 2006, 08:29 AM
Blue Severin: Yeah, just life grinded my brain away.
KaWaii: Ahh thanks, I should really watch for sloppy mistakes like that.
Fishspawn: Yep, I'm powering through no matter what I feel like! I was thinking of trying black pencil next time to get some values happening.
fedezz: Thanks fedz :).
Ok well, update. I feel that slump has gone (I just stopped caring about it and continued drawing no matter what). So some new things!
Some enviro thumbnails, some are done with refs. More for building some ideas.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_170906.jpg
I've been experimenting with using a black pencil. So this is the result!!! For some reason I associate dragons with wisdom and long life rather then the scary monsters most people draw them as. Hence why this is titled "Forest wisdom" :D
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/forest_wisdom_170906.jpg
I feel my speed is getting better, so will try keeping pace :yayca: ! I love you guys, I really appreciate all the help :D .
Fishspawn
September 17th, 2006, 01:59 PM
Excellent, glad you're back into it. Thumbnails are nice. I love the dragon, but i have a couple of suggestions. I'd make the enviro dark next to where the sun is hitting him, to make him pop out more and define what's him and whats the enviro. And, uh, i'd give him wings, 'cause wings are friggin sweet. ;) Keep up the good work, i look forward to more updates from you! Half of our ssg doesn't update anymore so we have to make up for it!
fedezz
September 17th, 2006, 03:28 PM
The lines on those thumbs look a lot more confident than in earlier posts, wich was one of my first crits on your sb. And perspective looks solid, even at that size.
I like the dragon, its design and pose, and the angular construction is fabulous. However the leaves and nature sorrounding him are bothering me, mostly because it's made of small unrelated bits just floating around kinda chaotic. Try simplifying it, relating the parts with each other and to the figure.
Great update, keep it up!
guitarjames
September 17th, 2006, 03:28 PM
hey havent comented in a while because i your pics havent been loading?
but now they are so ...looking good :) espeacilly the dragon but i agree with fishspawn about the background.
thumbnails are sweet espeacillay the top left one maybe take that turther...please
keep at it .james.
Idiot Apathy
September 17th, 2006, 03:38 PM
These, these thumbnails you do; I love them. And the cute enviroments taunting me with udon and soba signs, I love those too. ... more!
paberu
September 20th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Ok some updates
Fishspawn: Thanks man, yeah we gotta keep pushing through!
fedezz: Haha yeah I felt the leaf stuff just killed it lol.
guitarjames: Yeah I will be taking some of those further. Maybe changing a little in the process.
Idiot Apathy: Sorry no thumbs this time, I'll put some in next update.
Well life drawing stuff. First some quick 1 min stick figured for warm up and then 5 and 15 min stuff.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_200906.jpg
some longer stuff
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_200906.jpg
paberu
September 21st, 2006, 05:52 AM
BUMP!!!
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just kidding... :D here are a few enviro studies (downloaded a whole bunch of photos of japan and was studying them).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/street_envstu_200906.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/street_envstu_210906.jpg
sorry if your feel this is a bump... I just wanted to share some drawings I did today. :(
guitarjames
September 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
hey , looking good , nice lines .i like the japan studies . i think that you faces are your arent as stong as your other things . also when rendering try not leaving white space , keep the lines closer , maybe somthing to try..
keep it up .james.
Ragathol
September 21st, 2006, 12:24 PM
Another animu artist, yay! You've got some nice stuffs there, I like the backgrounds especially. But the girls are cute too :)
I'm a bit late in to make any crits now, but I'll keep my eyes open for you.
Fishspawn
September 22nd, 2006, 02:25 PM
Studies are coming along nicely. Pay more attention to line weight. Looking forward to more.
Idiot Apathy
September 22nd, 2006, 02:40 PM
Sweet, more enviroments and cityscapes. I know these are probably primarly drawing practice for you, meaning accurate shapes and lines but you might think about working on translating a bit of depth too, a good way to do this is to go thicker with your lines on things that are closer to the foreground and things that have sharp edges. Let the foreground one override though. Just a thought.
Also don't be afraid to take them into photoshop and do some quick value comps on them, it can be pretty fun and pretty good practice to do so. You might start with the sky in some of these - think that the sky will probably be brighter than anything that does not have a heavy dosage of sunlight on it.
Cheers dude, thanks for dropping by my sketchbook.
Listing
September 24th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Some good work. What's really holding your life drawing back is the the anime styling. Try to break it, for now at least.
Ubar_303
September 24th, 2006, 04:10 PM
Nice work dude, I really dig your environment sketches.:xpld:
paberu
September 25th, 2006, 07:48 AM
I decided to update my sb today since I received a rather interesting comment on my personal site. Not that it bothers me, just wanted to share with yas.
# Sean feuzé Says:
September 16th, 2006 at 11:32 pm e
Your art lacks imagination. It’s far too basic.
Try and get some decent ideas instead of just working off straight up repetition of the same style you see everywhere.
If you had any originality you wouldn’t blindly follow basic manga character cleches. Anyone can do that.
Be original, and you’ll find it pays off in the big world.
guitarjames: Oh yeah, I'm trying to find a penciling style that suits me. So I've been trying different things.
Ragathol: Ahh thanks. I'm always looking for crits :)
Fishspawn: Ok, I've been working on that.
Idiot Apathy: Colours... I'm gonna work with them this week hopefully.
Listing: Hmmm, how so? (can you elaborate please)
Ubar_303: Thanks man :).
Ok some enviro stuff (gonna paint this up definitely).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungle_river_230906.jpg
This is a drawing for certain some one :). Yes I know...anime...
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/yu_wingblade_250906.jpg
JavKiller
September 25th, 2006, 08:12 AM
Hmmm I like your pose work. Also seems like you love to pull sci fi work, which I adore. And you're working on the same kind of design I like too ^o^- I'm gonna stalk your thread if you don't mind.
guitarjames
September 25th, 2006, 10:35 AM
hey ,
i like tha last enviro , it would be cool in colour , maybe bring a bit of detail into the foreground.
i like the other one to ,altough the desighn isnt that original (i cant talk) umm yeh.
i think in your drawings in genral you could add more values , working your way up fromm -black to white. or vise versa
hope i helped .james.
fedezz
September 26th, 2006, 09:33 AM
Yeah, we want color on that fungous enviro :yayca:
Nice updates all around. Just watch the hand that grabs the sword on your last pic, it's looking wonky (I think the main problem is with the thumb).
Cheers!
Fishspawn
September 27th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Oooh fun update. Loving the enviro. Again watch the hands on your other one. This is just preference, but i think the wings would be cooler if they were more curvacious and stylized (ala Cardcaptor Sakura).
That quote you put in your post is what a lot of people here have been trying to communicate - striving for realism is the best way to create your own unique style, which i'm sure will still have some anime influence. The key is that life drawing, so break yourself and keep at it!
paberu
September 28th, 2006, 12:47 AM
JavKiller: Ahh cheers. Too many sci-fi books during my childhood ;) ! (Way Station by Clifford D. Simak I highly recommend!)
guitarjames: Yeah trying to work on the value thing with pencil, I'm still far from something I'd be happy with but I'm starting to find certain things that I like.
fedezz: Thanks, I'm redrawing the whole thing (Kaoru gave some thorough feedback on it (it was meant for her too... :^^;: can't even draw a decent gift).
Fishspawn: I see, I get mixed opinions from people - some say just keep working on everything and never abandon one part of your art, others are being anti anime. With the wings, I wanted to do something half half so it looks a bit more original (should refine the design).
1 minute and 5 min poses:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_270906.jpg
30 min poses:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_270906.jpg
Fishspawn
September 28th, 2006, 01:17 AM
Hey rayk, nice drawings. I don't really think you have to give up anime entirely, but from my own experience trying to ditch it, the habits hang on hard and cement themselves in everything you do, so i'm just trying to go without until i can nail stuff realistically. Then i might throw some back in.
I actually like the gestures more, because you didn't overdo any lines/shadows. In the 30 min poses you have lost your line quality (some of it anyway) and you have some shadows that are just too dark.
You're definately getting better at proportions. Keep up the drawing.
guitarjames
September 28th, 2006, 01:57 PM
oi, you:P
well i agree with fishspawn.and the 30 min ones look strange , the left has a weird neck ,and the heads to small and the right ones armpit is going to far up.
Maybe your being too careful ,sooo go and do somthing crazy with paint or pencils or what ever , and post th results (eve nif you dont like them)
armando
September 28th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Judging from those 30 minute poses you need to work on your observation skills. Try a few studies where you're working strictly in 2D, that is taking proportional measurements, strive to describe the individuality of the thing you see. You're building up your life drawings from an anime base. The truth is we build up everything we draw from a prior knowledge base, we run into trouble when that prior knowledge is incomplete, wrong, or unsuitable to what we're trying to draw. The most versatile things to build with are the basic forms, use a drawing method not stylyzation. Do some drawings using only boxes in perspective, same with spheres. Now try life drawing building from those forms. Drawing is searching for marks that are equivalent to visual perception, best advice I can think of is to read the book Art and Illusion by E.H Gombrich.
paberu
September 30th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Fishspawn: Ok I see, I'm really hating the 30 min ones - what I think happened is my speed got faster so I ended up over working them. Thanks :).
guitarjames: yeah, I think your right - just got too overboard shading.
armando: Ooh thanks, I think next time I will spend the 30 mins concentrating on nailing those proportions.
Ok! Well coloured the gift drawing (the fixed lineart is the result of kaoru pointing out them mistakes and and giving me feedback - kinda embarrassing since it was a gift for her...).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/yu_wingblade_iro_290906.jpg
More studies of Japan from photos!!! (This time I drew the whole photos and not bits from them).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/nihoncity_stu_300906.jpg
Well that's it for today. It's nearly end of September now. I'm really happy with this month as I feel I'm starting to get myself into gear ( a month of drawing everyday as opposed to before when I drew once a week...). Thanks again everyone :yayca: ! I owe you guys.
guitarjames
September 30th, 2006, 01:05 PM
:) hi
Colour girl is looking good nothing to crit
Photo studies are good too ,but push the values more..and you should do one big photo studie that takes up the whole page:)
keep up every day drawing ..it;s good for you
.james.
Fishspawn
September 30th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Nice! I'm loving the colored gift drawing! Really good job coloring, and you fixed all the mistakes i saw. I'd love to see a full figure colored like that. The thumbnails are looking good too.
Congrats on month 1, i'm looking forward to month 2! :)
Idiot Apathy
September 30th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Oh magaaaaaaaah! Mushrooms! :confident
Loving these thumbnails again man, so great. You use do value comps on them! Or mini-color comps!
JERI
September 30th, 2006, 10:47 PM
Whoa, you're definitely grasping those environments. That last update with the Japan photo studies shows very good management of values and multiple objects (I can tell what's what easily at first look).
Good stuff mate, keep it up.
paberu
October 2nd, 2006, 08:53 AM
毎日 アープデト!はじめ!
Ok gonna try to update daily from now on. SSG29 :yayca: !
guitarjames: Full page, shall be done!
Fishspawn: Ok, gonna put a to do full figure one.
Idiot Apathy: Yep, thanks for the kick - gotta get em colour flowing.
JERI: :)
Ok a thumbnail page of an idea I have:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/mairiv_thumbs_021006.jpg
Decided to do an unwind/explore exercise. Threw some random lines and shapes on the page and started to refine them... first was looking like an environment, now it looks like some creature. :sony:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/abstrexpl_crab_021006.jpg
Fishspawn
October 2nd, 2006, 05:44 PM
Cool stuff. I think that compo you picked from your thumbnails (i'm assuming its the x'd one) looks good. You should color that one :). Nice excercise, thats sort of how i go about my enviros from my head.
I'm excited about Rayk daily.
taves
October 2nd, 2006, 05:56 PM
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_060906.jpg
These were the longer poses, some of those were 15 min and some 30... I was feeling tired so I did some "fun with life drawing" as Fishspawn suggested.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_060906.jpg
Aye! Yes, that's the stuff. Very cool. Don't be afraid to embrace that kind of stuff - it only enhances your other work all around. Keep it up! :pirate:
paberu
October 3rd, 2006, 06:40 AM
Fishspawn: I'm gonna develop the thumbnail into a more tighter sketch first since I need to do some character design.
taves: Ahh thanks!
Ok scan from my moleskine, drew these while was doing filming stuff (for sped up footage so I had a bit of time to sit and draw).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/enviro_life_031006.jpg
guitarjames
October 3rd, 2006, 10:53 AM
hey ,
liking the creature , kind of like a crab:)
on the drawings from life the shading looks a bit rushed
keep it up .james
rorke
October 3rd, 2006, 11:00 AM
your stuff is very cute... nice start to your sketch book thread
fedezz
October 3rd, 2006, 04:44 PM
The thumbs from post 85 look great. Can't wait to see what happens with that idea thumb you have.
Daily updates ftw! :yayca:
Fishspawn
October 4th, 2006, 02:15 PM
I have to disagree with james, i was about to complement your rapid hatchwork, i think it adds energy to your sketches :) I only say this because you seem to get the values accurate without worrying about a perfectly rendered shape. Keep up the dailies.
paberu
October 4th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Ok guys, this is the update for yesterday (I had a huge day, woke up at 4:45am, got home at 10:30pm so all I had time for was a shower and sleep).
guitarjames: Yeah, crab thing... cos well it was from random!
rorke: Thanks.
fedezz: Still putting it off, gotta work on it today a bit.
Fishspawn: Yeah, I didn't really have time to refine the drawings cos I only had a few mins while the cam captured stuff.
Big apologies for not commenting on your sb's guys as much as I'd like to, it's the end of semester so I have a fair bit of uni assignments to finish.
Life drawing from yesterday, was concentrating on proportions. Some quick stuff:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_041006.jpg
Some longer stuff:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_041006.jpg
I'm gonna update again today in the arvo with todays update.
Fishspawn
October 4th, 2006, 08:00 PM
Hey rayk. You're doing much better with proportion. Also, the rendering on the long poses is much better, less dark shadows :). Only thing bugging me is the head structure. Maybe some skull studies are in order?
I was also rather disturbed by the shadow that looks like a goatee O_o;
Keep it up, dailies are helping a lot with giving you crits.
EDIT: What size paper is that you're working on?
paberu
October 5th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Fishspawn: All my life drawing is done on A4, about a figure per sheet (I comp them together after scanning. The yellow paper (moleskine) is like A5 or smaller (13 cm x 21 cm)
Ok todays update! I decided to enter the EON CG Challenge (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/eon/) :D! My entry can be found here - http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=413337 (I'll pretty much have everything there that I put in here).
Ok just a quick warmupy/homeworld style thing (so I can get into the mood and thinking) of one of the bits from the book (ships flying towards the asteroid). I've read the book once, but will read it again - I have a few ideas but some of those might happen only in the second book "Eternity".
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/eon/eon_concept01_051006.jpg
Fishspawn
October 6th, 2006, 12:47 AM
I like it a lot, especailly how the lightest part of the sky is next to the darkest part of the aseteroid. I don't know if i'll be able to participate in that challenge because of my hectic schedule, but i look forward to seeing your stuff!
paberu
October 6th, 2006, 08:06 AM
Fishspawn: Hahaha yeah I've got a busy life too, but I thought - you know what? why don't I just push myself that little bit more.
Ok another concept (this time a refined one of the last one I posted). Pushing into the homeworld style.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/eon/eon_concept02_061006.jpg
Blue Severin
October 6th, 2006, 12:53 PM
damn, those are sweet Rayk. I'm busy as hell too, but with a january deadline, who cares, Christmas break is in there.
fedezz
October 6th, 2006, 01:45 PM
That last thumb looks awesome, definitely better than the first version. Those warm yellow accents are working just great in that blue-ish ambient.
Keep it up!
designboot
October 6th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Keep on posting ... great works
EKU_11
October 6th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Another brissy person cool. Nice improvement with your environment designs their really excellent, also have a great since of colour and I look at the short QuickTime video you did very nice.
Fishspawn
October 7th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Grr i can feel the weight of the peer pressure crushing down on me :P Nice job on that last painting. I'd drop the line from the ship's trail - it draws the eye away from the energy and to the line on the edge of it :/. Keep it up, i may be persuaded to participate after all...
Hyptosis
October 7th, 2006, 03:22 AM
ray, outstanding work. Truly an inspiration. Wish I could crit or give advice, but you're beyond me. Thanks for sharring, keep it up, I'll be stalking.. I mean watching.. >_>
paberu
October 7th, 2006, 09:15 AM
Blue Severin: That's the spirit!
fedezz: Shall do!
designboot: Thanks :).
EKU_11: Ohh cool, brissie person.
Fishspawn: Haha thanks man. Come join the dark side....
Hyptosis: Man common my work is pretty crap. I think no matter what you feel about your own work (I love you colouring btw) you can always offer advice!
Well started on the character for that thumb near the top. Brocken anatomy x__x , gonna fix that leg tomorrow. That' my character Maiya :D -> this is her too drawn on 18/03/06 (http://www.artbypavel.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/down_old_path_180306.jpg) so you can go an have some fun laughing at my hideous work.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungle_path_wip_071006.jpg
guitarjames
October 7th, 2006, 01:55 PM
hey
i like . shes walking down a hill right , maybe make the hill easier to see and develop the background
keep it up .james.
Fishspawn
October 7th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Hey, nice start. I think either her hips are too low or she has no hips at all. Either move the left leg in or fix her hips. Keep it up.
paberu
October 8th, 2006, 09:48 AM
guitarjames: Ok thanks.
Fishspawn: I think it's just brocken x___x. Well kinda attempt at fixing her today.
A quick speed paint working from random shapes on the canvas.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_jungle_081006.jpg
I tried fixing her... << still much to do.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungle_path_wip_081006.jpg
Hyptosis
October 8th, 2006, 12:50 PM
dude, your work is so not crap, it has a very friendly and 'soft' feeling i've battled for for years. Like legend/secret of mana. I LOVE that kind of art. And your art isn't just like that art by no means, but I mean, it makes me feel happy to see it. I'd really love to collab sometime. I'd love to color something of yours.
Fishspawn
October 8th, 2006, 01:15 PM
Oooh fun update. That girl is looking fantastic, but the legs/hips still need some work. The enviro seems to be lacking in the perspective/contrast that your thumbnails have down so well. Keep it up, i'm enjoying your daily updates!
Bendragon
October 8th, 2006, 01:46 PM
Ooooh! Nice thumbnail work, it encourages me to do some of those. Some of your figure's proportions are wierd, so its good to see you doing some life drawings to sort them out.
Cwn Annwn
October 8th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Not bad rayky, try and loosen up a bit too. You're a bit uptight like me sometimes when it comes to lines. Try more fast gestures and forget accuracy/detail for a bit and focus on weight and form. It will help. :)
paberu
October 9th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Hyptosis: I really love FF games, especially the more stylised ones like FF9, Saga 2, Mana and etc. So that's probably why ahahaha.
Fishspawn: Yeah that enviro was crap. I worked from random abstract shapes and in grey scale too... I seem to function more efficient in colour.
Bendragon: Anatomy is my achilles XD
Cwn Annwn: Ok gonna try that out.
Ok another speed paint! Again just working by placing random lines and shapes and then making sense out of them.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_juntemple_091006.jpg
guitarjames
October 9th, 2006, 12:21 PM
sup
I like the girl , its looking better.The last enviro i s looking good , but there are some things you could do to make it even better.:P The whole thing looks a bit lopsided. And the green is overpowering ,try adding some browns in there ,and at the bottom of the bush. also i think the blue light would look nicer yellow :P
keep it up .james.
Blue Severin
October 9th, 2006, 03:54 PM
I like the enviro studies. Some crits: seeing through the trees is cool and all, but it ruins your perspective because it makes the horizon too low for the ground plane. If that's a light source, then make the surroundings darker, and pick up light from the glow, not the ambient light. The girls left leg has no thigh, her ankle passes through her right knee. An easy way to fix it would be to take the right knee level and swing it out. Also, Use contraposto to make it look like she is walking. girls never walk straight up and down, their hips don't allow for it.
Fishspawn
October 9th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Oooh that enviro is much better. I agree with severin, darks would help a lot. A foreground element would also establish perspective - how big is that place? I like it much more, it inspires the imagination.
Hyptosis
October 10th, 2006, 03:59 AM
nice green scene, very happy and alive feeling ^_^
paberu
October 10th, 2006, 09:26 AM
guitarjames: Ahh cool, thanks for the ideas. I kinda don't like brown XD (gotta find some images with a good of that colour to learn).
Blue Severin: Thanks man! One question, how do I use or get this contraposto thing?
Fishspawn: Yeah, needs a fore ground. But it's more or a less a concept idea hence maybe that's why I went a bit slack :zzz: I put those 2 figures there to give some sence of scale... I guess you can't really tell that they are figures.
Hyptosis: I've really been getting into greens as of late.. really weird cos I'm a blue person by nature.
Well a made a larger version of a thumbnail idea I had. Ended up heavily referencing and using as inspiration one of Empire Boy's works - http://tksn.web.infoseek.co.jp/work/ftsg02.jpg . I just love it sooo much... the colours... the feel...
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/along_path_101006.jpg
Fishspawn
October 10th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Now THAT is awesome. Move that close pillar a bit closer and you've got a rocking composition.
Idiot Apathy
October 10th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Do more like this :
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/along_path_101006.jpg
Don't be afraid to use some highchroma colors either :P (Not that you have to though.)
Edit, P.S. ran across this guy today - thought you might enjoy his sketchbook
http://www.stutler.cc/other/sketchbook/sketchbook.html
paberu
October 11th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Fishspawn: Ok, I've put fixative on the drawing so I'll do that when I get around to doing a proper colouring on it (in a weeks time)
Idiot Apathy: Yeah I'm gonna start doing colour washes in all my thumbs now. Thanks for the link :D!
Life drawing today, first is the rough 1min to 5 min poses and then the longer 15 and 20 min ones.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_111006.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_111006.jpg
guitarjames
October 11th, 2006, 03:11 PM
sup ,
I like your colour thumbnail.The 20 min drawings are much better but some of the 5 min ones look a bit out of proportion .Maybe the heads are too big.
keep it up .james.
DoodleCath
October 11th, 2006, 03:27 PM
I love this image, Very loose and this has really good composition aswell.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/along_path_101006.jpg
The life drawings are great aswell and it would help you alot if you did sketches when your out and about maybe, of people walking around. Maybe sitting in a park and take a few sketches etc...
Blue Severin
October 11th, 2006, 03:42 PM
That last thumb is sweet. Contraposto is a classical theory that the human body looks better when the weight is not rested evenly. Look at Michelangelo's David for a good example, but as far as women go, they roll their hips when they walk, and I think your piece would lend itself well to using this. The hips and shoulders tilt in different directions in contra posto. Here's my hastily sketched example.
codenothing
October 11th, 2006, 07:01 PM
cool stuff! Realy like the anime line work! I think i'd like to see you approach anatomy figures with more of a 'painters' style. But your anime stuff is great. :wink:
Listing
October 12th, 2006, 12:03 AM
Certainly improving. Keep at it.
Fishspawn
October 12th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Yo rayk. Life drawings are definately improving. I love the one at the top of the 2nd page, its very... nice. On the shorter ones, i'd like to see gestures instead of stick figures. Feel out the form without lifting your pencil/pen and be loose and rhythmic. It will help you warm up better as well as help you learn rhythm and where energy is distributed.
Ehh that didn't make much sense.. but try some gestures, and what blue severin said wins. Keep it up.
paberu
October 12th, 2006, 09:54 AM
guitarjames: Hmm yeah, I think the heads are too big <<.
DoodleCath: Yeah that's a good idea! I've been putting it off for too long.
Blue Severin: Thanks man! I'll fix it up when I get some time.
codenothing: Oh ok, gonna try something like that out.
Listing: Working my best!
Fishspawn: That made sense, going to try it out!
Ok an enviro tonight. Spent a little more on the colour. Used an artwork from legend of mana as a starting idea ref, then just branched out my own way.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/mana_jungle_121006.jpg
You can go and blame Hyptosis for that. I had totally forgotten about legend of mana, turns out that's been influencing my work on a subconscious level!
Oh yeah, I'd kill (not literally) for vol 4, 5 and 6 of legend of mana manga or artbook.
guitarjames
October 12th, 2006, 04:59 PM
hey ,
i like , maybe put some darker greens/browns/whatever in the area by the grey rock.
keeps it ups.james
paberu
October 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM
guitarjames: Yeah, I kinda wanted a quick colour wash over the line art. Gotta find a good way to do quick washes with many colours.
Ok speed paint tonight, inspired by sparth, m@, meatsworthy and all other paint freaks/gods. :D (assignments are killing me, this was awesome relaxation).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_mountain_131006.jpg
Fishspawn
October 13th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Oooh, nice enviros. I agree with james that the top one could use a little more variety. Legend of mana did have really nice artwork. On the desert one, i'd reccomend using bigger brushes, its kind of choppy. Also, like fedezz taught me, play around with some overlay/color layers, they can help establish atmosphere really quick, which is fun to do in speedpaints. At any rate, your enviros are rocking. How about some anatomy studies? Keep up the dailies.
codenothing
October 13th, 2006, 02:53 PM
sweet speed paint!
Blue Severin
October 13th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I dig the enviros too. Makes me want to go and make some. Your life drawing is getting better too. Not much to crit, just keep working and get better.
fedezz
October 13th, 2006, 05:25 PM
The green enviro is cool. So is the last one, I really dig the palette. Try some structural brushes (m@'s and barontieri's are cool) to define shapes quickly in early stages, i.e. those dudes you mentioned lay a couple of predefined shapes and then work from there to describe volume instead of painting every little part with a round brush. Also, hit the sharpen filter a couple of times (maybe fade it the second time) once you cropped the image to its final size, that really makes a difference.
Ohh, and I looove this one (http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/along_path_101006.jpg).
Cheers!
paberu
October 14th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Fishspawn: I have 3 assignments due this week so I'm really pressed for time.
codenothing: Thanks
Blue Severin: Thanks man!
fedezz: Ohhh thanks man, the sharpen one works magic! Can you give me a link to barons brushes???
Hey guys, I have 3 assignments due this week - so I must apologise that I'm not going to be able to visit each of your sb's. I'm really sorry, it's just end of semester. I'll keep my SSG commitment with daily updates however.
Ok speed paint tonight (yes, I know you guys are wanting to see some rayk's bad animu instead but alas...:P) *books come flying towards rayks head*
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_city_141006.jpg
paberu
October 15th, 2006, 09:30 AM
-___- I hate assignments.
Well threw up some lineart plus a speed paint, turned out rather :^^;: hmm yeah... (tries to find an excuse).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/longstory_151006.jpg
Myako
October 15th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Hey rayk , nice sb you have here ^^
like you landscape speed paints , good design in general
on the last one i would work on the left leg-feed more because now it seems he wants to get into a sitting pose , i think the feed angle is set up too right ?
But actually lovely work on the enviro and colors ,
Keep up nice style ;)
fedezz
October 15th, 2006, 11:02 AM
Hehehe, glad you like the sharpen thing. Those dudes always use it to achieve that digi-speed look. And here you go, Barontieri's (http://www.barontieri.com/Misc/BARONTiERi.rar) and m@'s (http://mv.cgcommunity.com/echange/matbrushes5.zip) brushes.
Nice updates! The enviro's composition looks good, it could use some contrast to separate the foreground, middleground and background, looks kinda flat as it is now.
Keep it up!
paberu
October 16th, 2006, 09:20 AM
Myako: Ahh yeah... it's really broken -___-.
fedezz: Thanks for the brushes man! Yeah my stuff is looking flat as of late...
Well played around with different brushes and then searching through the result for interesting ideas of places. One part looked like a cave so I cropped it and blew it up... then speed painted on top... Damn I'm feeling really tied and sleeping, but I had to update with something (I hate assignments).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_cave_161006.jpg
Blue Severin
October 16th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Your environments are coming together really well. Now I have to steal those brushes that Fedezz posted...
Fishspawn
October 16th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Wow, that new enviro is awesome. You're definately getting better at those! I hate assignments too... but we've gotta keep drawing/painting! Keep it up, your enviros have reached a new level.
paberu
October 17th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Blue Severin: Those brushes rock, so much fun!
Fishspawn: Thanks man.
Well I did plan to draw a character in enviroment today... but :( (I suck too much, so I need more free time to draw one).
Another one which was a result of random brush playing around and layer settings. Then crop, enlarge and paint.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_desert_171006.jpg
fedezz
October 17th, 2006, 10:29 AM
Mmm, those enviro are yummy. It really opens a new dimension when you let the brushes dictate the way. Congrats man, those are looking fantastic!
Keep pushing and don't stop improving!
guitarjames
October 17th, 2006, 01:37 PM
hey ,
your last enviro's show huge improvment ,YAY:) keep doing what your doing.But dont forget life stuff and all that.
keep it up .james.
Fishspawn
October 17th, 2006, 06:04 PM
I like it, you're really imrpoving your enviros. I like how you put the two little guys wandering around in both of them. I agree with james, you still haven't shown me those anatomy studies! :) Keep up the hard work, and when you get a break, do some more life drawing
paberu
October 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM
guitarjames: Today is life drawing day!
Fishspawn: I'm gonna study some loomis this friday most probably
Life drawing, had 2 models in. I feel like I've gone backwards -__-, definitely need some anatomy studies (and maybe a teacher as well).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_181006.jpg
longer stuff
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_181006.jpg
guitarjames
October 18th, 2006, 04:06 PM
hey ,
I like the longer ones, i think some look a bit stiff , maybe try being looser with your line .
keep it up .james.
Fishspawn
October 18th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Two models sounds fun. You didn't go backwards. I actually think the proportions are much better. Bridgeman is a good teacher ;) Keep rocking.
paberu
October 19th, 2006, 09:32 AM
guitarjames: Oh ok, I usually get hung up on trying to get the proportions right.
Fishspawn: Ahh I see :).
Well I finished 2 assignments today, and also ended up hitting an art slump again. So did some random drawing to loosen up and unwind, used refs for animals. Gotta dedicate some study to animals, as I pretty much have never drawn them. (pardon the bad animu).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/doodles_191006.jpg
taves
October 19th, 2006, 10:45 AM
I can sympathize with the animal drawings. I'm taking a class now, as a matter of fact, where we are animating both humans and animals, and the animals are, shall we say, a slow crawl for me. Haha.
Stuff looks great. Keep drawing through that funk - we can't all be awesome everyday. :teeth:
Fishspawn
October 19th, 2006, 06:02 PM
Ah yaz. Animals need practice. I'd recommend the book Drawing Animals by norman adams and joe singer. It's got excellent animal anatomy and gesture reference, as well as techniques on how to achieve fur/scales etc. Keep churning them out.
Hyptosis
October 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/spaint_desert_171006.jpg
Great stuff man, this one is especially sharp I think. Very cool, keep it up. ^_^
paberu
October 20th, 2006, 08:50 AM
taves: :yayca:
Fishspawn: Gonna check it out when I get the chance :D.
Hyptosis: Thanks man
Bird study from refs tonight.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/bird_study_201006.jpg
Arekkusu
October 20th, 2006, 11:53 AM
Nice SB man, especially your environment thumbs. :^^:
Keep at it man.
Slash.exe
October 20th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Very nice work. I love your scenery and anime style. I would love to see more of it. Did I read somewhere that you were doing an animation?
guitarjames
October 20th, 2006, 02:55 PM
hey ,
the bird studies are looking great , the one in the top left looks a bit off , maybe adding a wing in would help that,..
keep it up .james.
paberu
October 21st, 2006, 09:17 AM
Arekkusu: Ahh thanks, enviros seem to be the easiest thing to draw for me.
Slash.exe: I made a motion graphic thing on page 2 or something, but I plan to make a short animation next year.
guitarjames: Yeah, had to start somewhere. Gonna try to work my way through most creatures.
Well I had work the whole day(part time computer tech, oh do I hate it! wish I could get payed to draw), and then assignment when I got home. So hence bad update today... I'm sorry, just tired and... well no excuse I know.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/doodles_211006.jpg
guitarjames
October 21st, 2006, 05:51 PM
hey,
I like the man on the stones , the girl on the bridge her right leg looks as if it is curving around to the front of the left.
keepit up .james.
redbutton
October 21st, 2006, 06:11 PM
Ooh good stuff, loving your environments... They've all got this dreamy feel to them that I really love, very inspiring! Also liking the guy on the stones and the little watercolour tree in your last pic - so clean simple and lovely. Great stuff, keep it up :D
paberu
October 22nd, 2006, 08:24 AM
guitarjames: Yeah that drawing with the girl is horrible -__-.
redbutton: I love day dreaming, so maybe that's why XD.
Ok some more animu from me! I know I know, but drawing this made me happy, I'll draw up and enviro for her tomorrow and colour it!
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/sword_walk_221006.jpg
Koh
October 22nd, 2006, 08:32 AM
You keep improving, keep on posting. I want to see some full sized characters colored or painted. I like your environments too. Keep on sketchin.
guitarjames
October 22nd, 2006, 12:42 PM
hey ,
hit and run: the right leg looks odd to me almost as if it is broken, maybe bring it forwards more and rotate the foot to the left , for when you do the enviro.
Fishspawn
October 23rd, 2006, 03:38 AM
Hey rayk. yay for animu! Her eyes look like they arent on the same level. Can't wait to see it colored! I really like that thumbnail with the floating rocks. Keep up the good work.
bouroune
October 23rd, 2006, 06:32 AM
greats works here! keep on posting, i like the way you color your sketches, it sometimes reminds me of myazaki's style especially your town or country sketches. anyway, well done..
paberu
October 23rd, 2006, 07:13 AM
Koh: I'm forcing myself to draw full body characters now days.
guitarjames: Did you mean her right leg? cos I slightly fixed it, well I think I did.
Fishspawn: Yep, redid the eyes.
bouroune: I love mononoke hime and spirited away, so maybe that's why :D
Ok I kinda had another idea for the enviroment initially but yeah got another idea today too. The big problem with this one will be hair as there won't be such a big wind in an enclosed space as such. So gotta draw a more open air enviroment tomorrow.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/swordwal_enviro_231006.jpg
guitarjames
October 23rd, 2006, 04:51 PM
hey ,
thats looking great:) want to see how it turns out. To solve the hair problem you could stick a big industrial fan on the wall:D
keep it up .james.
Fishspawn
October 23rd, 2006, 06:20 PM
Yo. Whatever enviro you put her in, don't do it in the dead center like that. In the sketch she was on one side of the page - it was much more interesting. Putting her in the middle flattens the enviro i think. Keep up the good work.
fedezz
October 23rd, 2006, 10:26 PM
That last enviro w/character is looking good. It's nice to see you integrating figures in your enviros. Agree with fish about the placement of the figure, try placing it on the left line of the thirds, and maybe raising a little so his head falls on the intersection of that leftmost vertical third and the upper horizontal third. Well, that's supposed to be one of the most active spot of a composition, or so they say :P
Keep it up!
Blue Severin
October 24th, 2006, 02:15 AM
I guess you may have never been to NYC living in Australia, but the narrow areas channel wind and actually make the gusts worse, so that could work. you'd just have to show debris being blown too, as no city is ever clean enough to not shoot stuff all over from the wind. As far as having the figure in the middle, if that's what you really want, then try to change the background so she's not in the the symmetrical center of the enviro. The negative space around her is roughly equal on both sides. It's tough to make a central comp work, but trying can make an interesting piece. Or you could just move the figure and no more issue. Looking good.
paberu
October 24th, 2006, 07:39 AM
guitarjames: Haha that would be out of place too.
Fishspawn: Hmm yeah, center not best idea - that was only an idea rough.
fedezz: Yeah the golden ration rule. I gotta learn a way to bend around it but (gets boring).
Blue Severin: I'll play around with that enviro and try to make a central comp work. Think would be a good exercise.
Well this is my second idea (I have a third but it's too boring), I think I will stick with this one - heavy inspiration from empire boy XD. I'll use the other one for something else, or maybe alternative version.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/swordwal_enviro_241006.jpg
Wakkawa
October 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM
hehe, I think she might be too the left a little bit too much in this one. it could probably use something to guide the viewer across the picture too, like a fence or poles or something. Otherwise it looks like a damn good start.
paberu
October 25th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Wakkawa: Ahh ok, gonna fix that next wip update. I mainly wanted to get some forms working at this stage.
Well life drawing from today... *sigh* guess another bad day. Next week is last time for this life drawing drawing group, guy who runs it is going away and it won't resume until march next year... so I'll be on a look out for a new one, hope I can find one.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_251006.jpg
I don't like these at all, the roughs look better for some reason.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_251006.jpg
Hyptosis
October 25th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Great stuff all around. I especially like this piece.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/swordwal_enviro_231006.jpg
I'd love to see it more polished. The first of the last three figures is my favorite of them as well. Great stuff, keep up the clearly very hard work.
Fishspawn
October 25th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Hey rayk, those roughs do keep getting better. I think on the longer poses you are trying to be too "finished". As fedezz told me, after you get the proportions and values in, then you add in the loose gestural lines to your finished pieces. I'd also reccomend using charcoal and working on as big of paper as possible. Good luck finding a new group, it's helped you immensely already. Keep it up.
guitarjames
October 25th, 2006, 06:12 PM
hey ,
i like that new wip much more .. and on life drawings try using somthing like a big square thing like conte or charcol , ( as fishspawn said0 that will mean you wont get caught in detail..
keep it up .james.
paberu
October 26th, 2006, 08:09 AM
Fishspawn: I'll prob start drawing from photos while I look for a new group (I'll need to find something convenient like last one).
guitarjames: I really dislike that conte stuff.... >>
Do you guys remember that mushroom enviro? Well decided to finish it off, still working on the colour pallet for it though. Seems like it's been half a year since I drew it.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungleriv_iro_261006.jpg
guitarjames
October 26th, 2006, 04:58 PM
hey,
finally started it hey:P looking good so far ,maybe get more contrast bettween foreground and background. Instead of conte use a graphite stick:)you know the big chunks of it..
keep it up .james
Fishspawn
October 26th, 2006, 05:58 PM
I like the way you've lit it, can't wait to see it finished.
paberu
October 27th, 2006, 09:17 AM
guitarjames: Yeah the drawing isn't that great, so I will need to spend some time getting a pallet together that will push the perspective more.
Fishspawn: Yeah I gotta start making some finished work.
Well this started out as a simple shape/value composition for kaoru (she wanted to draw a robot coming up from junk yard) but I really liked the idea (I've been wanting to draw a junk yard for a while now) so I decided to push this my own way. This is a wip, prob will go for a junk yard version of forest temple (that green forest speed paint).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/junkyard_chronicles_271006.jpg
Blue Severin
October 27th, 2006, 01:53 PM
sweet start, getting this enviro stuff down.
Fishspawn
October 27th, 2006, 01:58 PM
junkyard forest temple!? brilliant. Much better composition this time, just make sure to include some foreground junk :)
fedezz
October 27th, 2006, 11:43 PM
That last enviro is sweet, you got that value thing down! Really nice how you pushed things to the back using value.
And finish that forest enviro as well, I'd like to see (please post it bigger) some finished work from you.
Cheers!
paberu
October 28th, 2006, 09:07 AM
Blue Severin: Thanks man.
Fishspawn: Yep, sure will.
fedezz:Forcing myself to finish stuff. Otherwise I won't have anything to make a portfolio with next year x___x.
Feeling a bit tired today, had work the whole day. So yeah... my "excuse" for poor quality (man I gotta kick my butt for crap like this). Will pop into your sb's tomorrow, BIG apology for not popping as often as you guys do!
Study from photo, should really use the ruler and control my values.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/nihoncity_stu_281006.jpg
WIP of mushroom.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungleriv_iro_281006.jpg
paberu
October 29th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Ok anyone remember this one? Well I had a revelation today - since the A4 page wasn't looking to be enough space for the enviro, I had a genius idea of just sticky taping another A4 to it so I could extend my lines!!
This is probably my last addition to "WIP to finish list", so I'll keep working on each one until I get em done before starting on new ones.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/jungle_path_291006.jpg
Fishspawn
October 30th, 2006, 01:10 AM
Wow, you have so many wip enviros O_O; And you'll probably finish all of them before i finish mine XD On the japan one the perspective is all messed up, but i think you already know that. Keep up the hard work.
paberu
October 30th, 2006, 08:16 AM
Fishspawn: Yeah, perspective all over the place. It was great to loosen up a bit however. Oh, I still have 4 more enviro ideas to work on, but I'm leaving those until after I make this batch.
Well wip of junk yard chronicles, the sky kinda dimished half the perspective and scale, will have to fix it up next wip.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/junkyard_chronicles_301006.jpg
Blue Severin
October 30th, 2006, 02:12 PM
make sure that path doesn't get too predictable, it'll kill the dynamic work you've got going on so far. Other than that looks pretty good.
guitarjames
October 30th, 2006, 04:59 PM
hey ,
i really like the scrapyard but i think you could bring the values down as i preffered it when it was darker . You could add some really nice black silouhetes in the bg too.
keep it up .james.
Fishspawn
October 30th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Looking good, i like the concept. Pay attention to what those two said. Also, the pillars coming up near the top of the path are all the same height, it would be more interesting if some went higher/lower than the temple. Keep rocking.
paberu
October 31st, 2006, 07:51 AM
Blue, james, fish : Man thanks guys, it looks to be a tricky path going from something really loose to something more refined. Gotta make sure I don't loose the original feel (or at least not make it worse).
Well, I'm brain dead today. But! I'm updating my sb because, well I can't loose the pace even for one day. So some thumbnails today. (Pardon the lack of quality recently, I think I just need to recover a bit),
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_311006.jpg
Hyptosis
October 31st, 2006, 03:55 PM
fantastic and inspiring stuff man ^_^
Fishspawn
October 31st, 2006, 11:44 PM
You know I always enjoy that kind of page :) I'd love to see more ideas for the crystal chamber, that could be a cool digipaint... you know, when you have time. Keep it up, you're definately getting better.
paberu
November 1st, 2006, 08:28 AM
Hyptosis: Glad to hear I inspire people! :yayca:
Fishspawn: Ohh, sorry I forgot! Gonna post more of them then.
Umm I had life drawing today, but it's also INTERNATIONAL SELF PORTRAIT DAY (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80183). So here's mine: (damn, I had a grand vision but the result is crummy per usual), used photo ref, done today (as per rules).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/self_portrait_011106.jpg
I'll put up the life drawing tomorrow, I need some sleep right now.
Fishspawn
November 1st, 2006, 11:56 PM
Hey. I think you should be studying the skull/facial planes/how it connects to the neck. I will keep reccomending bridgeman until i see some! But yeah. learn the facial/head anatomy really well and it will not only improve your ability to draw realistically, but your animu as well ;) Only problems i see with that would be easily fixed with some studies of the head. Rawr, keep it up.
paberu
November 2nd, 2006, 01:42 AM
Fishspawn: "Bridgman'S Complete Guide To Drawing From Life" Is this the one you're referring to?
Ok life drawing from yesterday:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_rough_011106.jpg
Longer stuff:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_long_011106.jpg
Ok todays update, coloured one of the poses cos I liked it:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/lifedrw_iro_021106.jpg
Fishspawn
November 2nd, 2006, 09:46 AM
Yep, thats the one. Those figure drawings are fantastic, much improvement over the last ones. Keep it up.
paberu
November 2nd, 2006, 07:00 PM
Fishspawn: Thanks man, I'll get them Bridgmans studies in soon.
Ok everyone, I'm going for a trip to Sydney for a few days (till 8th). So I won't be able to update till then most probably. My moleskine is coming with me, so I'll try to get a visual diary thing going!
Till then everyone, take care and keep working hard!
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/short_break_031106.jpg
Blue Severin
November 2nd, 2006, 07:46 PM
likewise, have fun in the city.
Fishspawn
November 3rd, 2006, 02:21 AM
A little more contrast in that one and it would seriously rock. Have fun in sydney!
fedezz
November 3rd, 2006, 11:19 AM
I have to agree with everyone here, much improvement on those figures!
Have fun in Sydney!
guitarjames
November 4th, 2006, 11:35 AM
hey ,
I agree to , much mprovment,on the colour woman you could put some reds and yellows to give it a bit more life.
keep it up .james.
Punchy
November 5th, 2006, 03:49 AM
I dig that last one. Can't wait to see your sketches from your trip.
Listing
November 10th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Nice work recently. Don't let your cartooning sensibilities affect your life studies.
paberu
November 12th, 2006, 06:45 AM
Blue Severin: :D.
Fishspawn: Ok, yeah bit more contrast.
fedezz: Thanks man!
guitarjames: Ok will keep that in mind.
Punchy: Gotta disappoint you, not many sketches were done.
Listing: Ok I'll do my best.
Ok well I'm back, stayed there a bit longer. Had an amazing time! (been back for 2 days now, just first day was dead and second day had work which didn't help me recover). I did draw a tiny bit, but I will only post a few things up as others are personal/no interest for you guys. I plan on going back there in jan, so I will draw more then.
Well to get the ball rolling again ...
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/grass_pathway_121106.jpg
Fishspawn
November 12th, 2006, 10:11 AM
Glad youre back. That one is awesome, lots of imagination.
TangLung
November 12th, 2006, 10:24 AM
I love your enviro art style, very vibrant and colourful :)
paberu
November 13th, 2006, 08:30 AM
Fishspawn: Glad you like it.
TangLung: :) Thank you.
Well thumbnail dump tonight.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_111106.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_121106.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumb01_palace_131106.jpg
guitarjames
November 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM
hey ,
Evrything is looking good (yay) i really like the olast page.Maybe puting something on the hill to the right in the enviro like that building on the last page would be cool .Try to put something more useful next time.
keep it up .james
Ian Mack
November 13th, 2006, 03:27 PM
I like the way you do your enviros! I think I'll start doing some in my sketchbook too. I know all the rules...surprised that I never used them. :P
btw...that's a good idea to create like five WIPS and then start completing them. I think I'm going to try and create five WIP's, then choose the one or two that I like most and just do those so I can get into the creative stage again.
Something abuot that train sketch is realyl elegant.
Hyptosis
November 13th, 2006, 03:42 PM
sexy stuff buddy, XD keep it up =P
motives
November 14th, 2006, 05:44 AM
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/grass_pathway_121106.jpg
haha thats so cute!
paberu
November 14th, 2006, 08:13 AM
guitarjames: Yeah those were just to get the general idea of the building down. I'm working on a more interesting version now.
Ian Mack: Thanks! Enviros are really great things to draw. Everytime I draw one it feels like I take a journey to that place, really fun!
motives: :D Thanks.
Well to keep things different; something out of my moleskine when I went to sydney.
First one drawn while I was in the bus (from mem), the second one too (but from life) and so is the third one. I had to take a bus to some town in middle of nowhere, from there I was on train to sydney (This is how the overnight service to sydney runs, the one from syd to bris is normal with train whole way).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/moleskine_031106.jpg
paberu
November 16th, 2006, 06:38 AM
I didn't update yesterday O___O. (very sorry everyone!)
Today two updates.
"Mist tribe" :D
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/misttribe_161106.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_161106.jpg
guitarjames
November 16th, 2006, 01:41 PM
hey,
Those sydney sketches are sweet.Not sure whats happening with the mist tribe,Almost looks like there is a floatng tree in the sky with clouds.Also the thumbnails are great.
keep it up .james.
EDIT: i think it get it now ,is it a pond with a walk way .
paberu
November 17th, 2006, 08:02 AM
guitarjames:Yep it's like a walk way on a pond. I wasn't really paying attention to composition and etc, just had a funny idea that I coloured.
Well made the top right thumb into a semi finished ilo/speedpaint. Kaoru did a remix in the end of it which came out with a warmer feel (I punched the value on the space ships after it).
So your fun task can be to pick which one you like more. Aka cold or warm! :yayca:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/endof_tunnel_171106.jpg
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/endof_tunnelremix.jpg
Fishspawn
November 17th, 2006, 01:20 PM
I like the mist tribe but it seems flat. I LOVE those thumbnails. I think the second version looks better because it has higher contrast at the focal point. Might try shifting the focus more to one side and adding in a "pathway" to it so there's more to look at. Keep up the good work.
bupaje
November 17th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Some beautiful work here and I can also see your progress from the first post. I particularly love the sweet girl faces and your environments -really well done.
paberu
November 18th, 2006, 07:48 AM
Fishspawn Ahh I see, I wanted to make something different to usual work so I was going for a very cold lonely feel.
bupaje: Thank you!
Ok another enviro.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/tree_walk_181106.jpg
Idiot Apathy
November 18th, 2006, 04:15 PM
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/grass_pathway_121106.jpg :D
paberu
November 19th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Idiot Apathy: :yayca:
Ok coloured version of last nights drawing, different to what I usually do. I think I hit a block/slup or something (+ I'm feeling sick) so I did many attempts to colour this, Kaoru preferred these colours so I went ahead with this palette.
I think I need to study tree + grass colours more. Oh well, can't stop! Gotta keep drawing through blocks/slumps/whatever.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/tree_walk_191106.jpg
Idiot Apathy
November 19th, 2006, 05:00 AM
Hrm hrm, block and stumpage? What's the problem chief? Colorwise your palette of choice seems to be a more subdued pastel or watercolor sort - you're using fairly low saturation colors and basically adding in white as you add light. I like it but it is perhaps stylistic at times and of course as with everything not always the case in different situations. Try going towards 100 saturation and 100 brightness as you add light and see how you like that, when you can go no higher in the color palette window then go towards white or hue shift to a 'brighter' hue. Like orange to yellow.
Anyways, hope that helps. This last enviro is nice mate! Small crit; the branch on the right creates a bit of a tangent with the horizon. Overlap is great for depth though so it shouldn't move too much.
Cheers!
Kenzo
November 19th, 2006, 07:35 AM
:confident
Hi ,Kayk,i like your drawing.
It's more like Japanese' style.so lovely.
I think some of these come form your life.And some of these come form game?
I like the drawing "white""dream""wind"(白梦风).The feeling of it is comfortable,natural,beautiful.But i am curious about the name.Why you call it "w""d""w".It is something you like?
Fishspawn
November 19th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Hey Rayk. The colors don't look bad, they just look cartoony, which may not be what you're going for. Midtones should be the most saturated, with less saturation at the darkest points and lightest points. Also, work on your atmosphere a little more, its hard to tell if the grass is far off/ far below, or right next to the tree. Also, more dynamic lighting wouldn't hurt. Keep up the drawing and get through that slump!
guitarjames
November 19th, 2006, 04:39 PM
hey , yeh listen to the others:P
keep it up .james
Blue Severin
November 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM
push the values and it'll look less cartoony. Right now you have a colored drawing, not a digital painting that gives a sense of depth. Those light parts on the tree should glow compared to the background, not be the same value. The foreground's darks need to be the darkest (black, usually with a bit of a tint for better temperature depth). The Black frame shows as the darkets thing in the painting. Crits get more specific and evil sounding as you get better, so keep up the good work.
paberu
November 20th, 2006, 08:21 AM
Idiot Apathy, Fishspawn, guitarjames, Blue Severin: Wow guys, thanks for the support and help!!! I'll use your advice and wisdom next time I colour!
Kenzo: I guess those three words is what I felt when I drew it, white dream wind as in a soft breeze with pure dream like feeling. I sometimes feel that breeze during sunrise. Most of the stuff in this sketchbook is out of my head and some from life and photos.
Some thumbnails to colour later.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_201106.jpg
paberu
November 21st, 2006, 08:37 AM
Ok sketch from life (I need to get my values working):
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/cbg_building_211106.jpg
Speed paint of top thumb (heavy m@ inspiration and colour).
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/desert_lookout_211106.jpg
Fishspawn
November 22nd, 2006, 01:28 AM
Good thumbs as always, and that new enviro is killer. Much much better. Don't be afraid to use a few textured brushes in some areas to make it look more dirty or rocky. Also, i can't really tell what the white shapes are, they could be clouds or they could be aliens... maybe i'm just not looking right. Keep up the good work.
paberu
November 22nd, 2006, 07:34 AM
Fishspawn: Thanks man, those white things are.. I have no clue. Just kinda liked the idea. Yeah, I need to find a good way to add texture.
From life sketch today.. I need sleep.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/cbg_street_221106.jpg
guitarjames
November 22nd, 2006, 11:44 AM
hey ,
That enviro is really good.Yeh try putting some photos over it on overlay and then adjust the hue/saturation , or Use like a chalk brush .The white things remind me of spaceships.
keep it up.james
paberu
November 23rd, 2006, 07:16 AM
guitarjames: I'm staying away from photo textures as I have 0 trad training so I need to learn to add texture without photo help.
Life study from my moleskine.
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/cbg_boat_231106.jpg
Paint up of the second thumb! Enjoy~
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/dockingv_231106.jpg
Fishspawn
November 23rd, 2006, 01:28 PM
Life studies are looking great. Only thing that bugs me with the digi is the grey around the tower(?). Looks sloppy and it wouldnt take much time to fix. Other than that it looks fantastic - makes me want to paint :) Keep up the good work, and thanks for dropping by our books, i was beginning to think you'd forgotten ^_^;
Idiot Apathy
November 23rd, 2006, 01:49 PM
Rayk homey, don't stay away from doing anything - traditional training or not. You need to constantly branch out and experiment. Go nuts. If you stuck to the same path everyday in life you would see the same sights over and over.
Using a photo texture might get you started and help you see things better.
Anyways, last few paints have been real nice.
paberu
November 24th, 2006, 07:54 AM
Fishspawn: Sorry! It's just I'm doing an intensive course of japanese over the summer break, so time is limited (I just love making my self suffer don't I?)
Idiot Apathy: Oh ok, will keep that in mind. Gotta make a go nuts artwork :D!
More thumbnails
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/thumbnails_241106.jpg
guitarjames
November 24th, 2006, 04:55 PM
hey, i really like the enviro and the thumbs on the right.Try adding a liitle more detail to the metal /spaceship in the middle to really draw the eye in.go go nuts:P
keep it up .james
paberu
November 26th, 2006, 05:38 AM
guitarjames: Ok :D!.
Sorry for no updates yesterday, I was literally falling asleep at the desk so I went to bed.
Well I had a "kinda" commision/task today, Kaoru gave me an image from which I needed to make a picture! Great practise I think. Borrowed heavily from arcipello in terms of colour.
Kaoru's task image :D! (her SB - http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1014096 please go visit her and leave some feedback!!! :yayca:)
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/palace_kaoru_261106.jpg
My end result:
http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/palace_261106.jpg
p.s One of the members of my forum joined ca, so go rip him a new one! http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=82944 He really needs some help.
Fishspawn
November 26th, 2006, 10:42 AM
I'd like to see that bottom left thumb finished. Good job on the last one... i think it lacks scale. Those could be massive or tiny - i dont know. Keep up the awesome enviros, i'm learning a lot from them :)
fedezz
November 26th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Great enviros rayk. Great improvements since you got those priceless advices from Idiot Apathy and the rest of the gang. Love the landscape with the floating pillow-faces, the last one you posted and this one (http://www.artbypavel.com/sketchbook/desert_lookout_211106.jpg). But please, indulge me and post your pics just a tad bigger:D
Cheers dude, keep 'em coming!
paberu
November 27th, 2006, 09:09 AM
Fishspawn: Yeah needed to stick a stick figure in XD.
fedezz: Ok from now on will post 150px bigger sized paints! (I updated the last enviro with a bigger size).
Well something out of my moleskine, no speedpaints today as I have something to finish by wed.
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4rt-r41d
November 27th, 2006, 09:15 AM
Lovly work! ill pop in more often :D
fantastic to say the least!
Fishspawn
November 27th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Bigger is better. That thumb is nice. What medium are those thumbs done in?
flying~high
November 27th, 2006, 03:34 PM
mmmmm! I absolutly love your work rayk!
'tis so cool^_^
keep up the good work!
paberu
November 28th, 2006, 07:52 AM
wakazou, flying~high: Thanks guys, but I think it's an overstatement. Go look at m@, sparth or even other sb's. I'm still working hard to get to that level however.
Fishspawn: Those are from life thumbs, I use a HB and a moleskine (a hard bound sketchbook with thick yellow tinted paper. As you can I'm still working out how to render with a pencil XD.
Well, here's what I've been working on the past 2 days. It's a present to my friend who's studying dentistry. We used to be hooked on Ragnarok Online in our younger days so that's the reason behind this.
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Burnt
November 28th, 2006, 10:40 PM
haha so cool, i'm enjoying your work a lot! keep it up!!
paberu
November 29th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Burnt: Thanks! Will keep it up.
Ok more life studies from my moleskine, still working out how to render with a pencil :D hahaha.
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Fishspawn
November 29th, 2006, 10:08 AM
Hey Rayk. I was once told that when drawing enviros your pencil strokes should reflect the texture and energy of what you were drawing. So, for example on those ferns you would use the side of the pencil and make one stroke that goes up and then droops a little. And for different kinds of leaves you make different pencil strokes. Just an idea to try. Keep up the awesome pace!
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