self-portraits

[guilefine]

hi im new here and i started with a bunch of self portraits on photoshop for the first time. I have done six portraits from life every day for six days one after the other. I have surprised myself and i am looking to do more work on the computer. I am a student at Massachusetts College of art.



the sixth one..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joeself6.jpg

the fifth..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joeself5.jpg


this is the fourth one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joeself4.jpg

the thrid..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joeself3.jpg

the second..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joself2.jpg

the first..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/kinjark/joeself.jpg

[Michael Jaecks]

If these are your first six digital paintings ever, I think you're off to a nice start. The fifth one is my favorite. I really believe the sleepy looking head supported by the hand and like the transulcency of the skin you are starting to get. In the sixth one, I see your confidence with the medium build as you go bolder, darker and more gestural. Its a nice approach, but the fifth one is still the favorite, IMO.

[wakizashi]

cool. I cant realy comment on how accurate they are because I havent seen your face. but in terms of style, the 4th and 6th are my favorites. Only thing I dont care for in the 6th one are the little patches of white here and there. it works fine for the more loose style of the others, but the 6th one seems a little more refined, esspesialy in the line work. so to not color in the ocassional spot makes the image look incomplete more then "loose". just my opinion though

[guilefine]

Thanks i feel like my weakness is becoming tighter in my painting and drawing. I was really inspired by monet when i first started painting so impressions are a big part of whatever i do. Impression of light is really important to me and emotion. If i give the impression of an emotion i feel pretty good about what i did same with light.

[kinjark]

hey guile, welcome to CA, im pleased with how developed your work has progressed from day one to day six. your level of understanding your face and inturpreting it with digital media is becoming more clearer. your lines are loose but are controlled, you do show a progreesivly more believable sence of light from day 1 to day 6, and i agree you showd more confidence in the later portraits than the earlier ones. i think it is difficut to critique you on anything that has to do with likeness because the portraits dont look alike. post a photograph so we can gauge the likeness ourselves and not take your word for it. also i encourage you to try to go futher with your next portrait, (assuming your continuing to do more) try for a tighter finished image. your losse style is refreshing, but id like to see how accurate you are aswell. post more. and soon.:yayca:

[guilefine]

sorry kinjark i don't have a photo for you its 2:30 in the morn and im sleepy so i can't get one right now on my camera cuz its to late and i need sleep buddy.

[Nexus]

That's definitely some rapid progress. Not enough can be said for practice. Hell, Android did a self portrait every day for years, I think he ended up with a 1000 of them. And I think we all know how awesome his work is. Also Id have to agree with Neorepto on the fifth one, definitely the best of the lot. It has that Monet feel, what with the loose brush stroke and that green palor that he likes to add to skin tones. Keep practicing with Photoshop, explore it top to bottom. Get online and download brushes, make your own. Like any other media Photoshop is just a tool like your pencils, pastels, oils, etc. but its a tool with endless possibility and it takes some effort to master it much like anything else. Dont stop doing portraiture and keep posting.

[guilefine]

Here is a picture of me in kinda the fifth pose...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeselfpic.jpg

also here is an oil painting i did last summer I think it is thirty by twenty two inches. I work really quickly out side and i spend more time drawing than applying color which is true for my self portraits also..
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/Graveyardrezize.jpg

[inspector Lee]

The oil painting looks like you were studying Cezanne's early style. I really like the brush strokes. Good job.

[kinjark]

you should make your next portrait with surface texture and vary your brushes. keep it up! by the way your fifth portrait does resemeble you a great deal. if you were to make the planes of your face more definitive, it would be easier to read as three dimentional and not so confusing or flat.

[guilefine]

Here is the seventh portrait, something looks strange about it and i don't know what it. Please tell me if you feel the same and why thanks
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself7.gif

[kinjark]

hmmmm i like what youve done adding some texture, way to go! im also pleased that your continuing to post often, it makes me proud to give my impute (if it helps any). the apex of your nose or the broken contour part just after the brow ridge is lost in translation and confuses me, im seeing to much of the top of your nose compared to how much is shown on the bottom. get in the same pose and imagine a straight line from the tip of your nose across your face. find points of references that you can secure or ancor you nose into place. also, you eyes are not forshorten correctly, or at least are not on the same plane as your nose and makes you look strange.:blah: i think they should have a more slanted axis like this ^ symbol and less like this -- one. this is becuase the tilt of your head. tilt your head up and down over and over in a mirror and watch how your eye angle changes as the face dips and protrudes in space.
oh and remember that the face is not a straight flat surface. it has crests and trophs. although some are minute looking straight on they make a different in deep perpective. if one form overlaps another show it! that is if your cheeks overlap your eyes so show it.a great way to think about it is to think of the face or any form is made up of thousands of crossections stacked on top of each other like pankakes or those three dimential stacking puzzels. every time the contour changes another slice is made. in deep persective some are obscured or overlapped by larger slices or slices that are closer to the viewer. it may be confusing but if you need an better explination ill be happy to give you one. keep it up my friend!
anyone else have any tips?

[guilefine]

This is number eight and i used a textured backround instead of adding texture to the "final" product. I spent alot of time trying to make the drawing look like me and the hand might be too big i don't know.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself8.gif

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself8.jpg

[alex_86]

A bit too messy in my opinion. Perhaps you should focus on finding the planes on shapes rather than just slopping the colors on.

[Pixeldragoon]

Yeah, can you show a process? I think we could help more if we saw how you worked. Just save a bunch of JPEGs from start to finish.

Keep them up!

[guilefine]

I wanted to paint an imaginary scene but i did an extensive underdrawing and painting. im finding it hard to keep myself satisfied as i move farther and farther away from what i saw in my head.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/loveweb.gif

I did like a light wash over gray and it looks like a dull stage set to some weird play.
I can't keep drawing away from a painting and im not great at drawing so i don't want to let go of a drawing under a painting while i can still get better at drawing.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/lovecolor.gif

[guilefine]

this is number nine its different I started to work the face with real subtel color then i took a right down do things differently road.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/jmoeself9.gif

[Tom Garden]

These are going great, you really seem to love dashing many colours together and sometime unexpectadly so.

Perhaps all i could crit is to try some more limited colours, as this is a far greater challenge, plus you will start to look at tonal values a lot more then.

[guilefine]

Thanks Tom. I do love color and can't live without it thats why this portrait was one of the hardest portraits if done so far. Besides the extreeeem forshortened face which took hours drawing, i only used one color with black and white. It was very refreshing and had alot of fun painting it. I thought it was going to go by very quickly but i spent a huge amount of time finding the right tone for every thing. My teacher wants me to find the right color when im painting but finding the right tone of the suspected color is so much easyer than spending the whole class mixing colors with colors and still ending up with an aproximation. I will value the tones much more. ha ha ha
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joself10.gif

[tumbra]

The first one looks like Al Pacino after a long night of bing drinking.

[guilefine]

It does, thanks i think i was drinking that night. I wasn't in a good mood either. : )

[guilefine]

So here is the same idea as the last one but with color. i feel like the blue in my face that represents a plane receeds farther than any other plane that isn't blue.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself11.gif

[guilefine]

I am very satisfied with this portrait. It feels very real and it looks like me. It is a layer of softly defined planes of the face with another layer of grain like texture. The texture layer is very saturated color.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself12.gif

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself13.gif

[guilefine]

Well I spent quite some time on myself and it really paid off. I took very few breaks and concentrated alot on every thing and if i missed some thing then its because im tired of looking at my face for this long.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself14.gif

[sone_one]

the last one is gorgeous. great plane treatment ... as well as on those 2, http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself11.gif and http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joself10.gif

more more! ^^ youre progressing fast... keep that pace

[guilefine]

Thanks im trying to get as much done till may eigth and then i don't have a tablet becuse i use my buddy's.

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself15.gif

[guilefine]

The color has been compromised as it was formated for the web. I can tell you the color is amazing and im very satisfied with the portrait. I havent done one in two days and wanted to refine the style of rendering even further than the second to last one. There are actually some colors that are not even showing up in this image. Any suggestions as how i can not loose detail when i post images.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself16.gif

[guilefine]

I pretend to not care about my work and i am suffering from it. I am failing several art classes because i don't want to participate in class discussions and assigned work. At school there is alot of freedom to do whatever i want even do absolutly nothing. I find pleasure in painting certain subjects and sculpting from the model but when im asked to do something i don't want to do, it feels like a heavy burden has been placed on my shoulders. It becomes depressing the more and more i am involved in something i don't want to do. These portraits are more about caring about myself. To show love of detail not only to myself but to others as well. I have heard that it is so easy not to care and i find myself so apathetic and so depressesd about my pretended lack of caring that sometimes i can only express my feelings through an image. I know i care alot and thats why i continue to push forward. I want to represent without a style and i find that for me no matter how realisitic i want it to look i am looking at it in a style of my own.

[guilefine]

what ever you think is best and i deleted some images off of photobucket with out knowing that they can't if they want to be seen.

[guilefine]

Here is the seventeenth, it really dosent look like me and im just playing around with color on the face

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself17twilight.gif

[guilefine]

This portrait was done with the afternoon light as a light source. Its getting closer to looking like me the more and more i do them.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself18.gif

[guilefine]

Number 19 took long time

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself19.gif

[guilefine]

Im a little fuzzy from last night

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself20.gif

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself21.gif

[guilefine]

So Your a developer and you found out you have been building on an old cemetery. You decide that in the night your going to remove the rest of the graves and bring in a backhoe to get the job done. most of the coffins are removed except one and it is encased in cement. As it is being excavated it falls and cracks open. A horrible smell arises and the backhoe operater jumps out and runs over to the coffin. Cautiously he peers into the coffin with his light. he laughs as he looks into my face and i look back becuse thats all i can do.

My death is soon compared to the vastness of time i thought it would be new to paint my face as if i had been dead for some time. The color of flesh when it has lost its life is dull and gray. Its a morbid thing to think about but red is escential in someones face when painting a portrait so A portrait of death COULD OR could not have red in it?




http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself22.jpg

[guilefine]

In this portrait im trying to put the most saturated color on the closest thing to the picture plane. So rather than create depth with lights and darks just add color ontop of that idea. I put a really saturated yellow on my nose but it was hard to find a very saturated gray and blue that was convincing in the foreground.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself23.gif

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself24.gif

[guilefine]

This is inspired by dali who drew a bunch of self-eaters.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself25.gif

[guilefine]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/joefeinsilver/joeself27.jpg