stine's sketchbook -- a portrait a day keeps the doctor away...

[stine]

so, here i am.
a little intimidated by all the great books on this board, but i decided to give it a shot.
always enjoyed drawing, but when i looked at a blank piece of paper a few weels ago i realized that quite a lot had changed since i last took a pencil in my hand: first i saw that working off photo-reference made me LOOK but never quite UNDERSTAND what i was drawing.
second i lacked a serious amount of penmanship after working so much on the computer... :)

well, don't know whether it is ok, but i'll post some of my older drawings to give you a hint where i am coming from...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/medusa.jpg
medusa



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/madonna.jpg
madonna




http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/speckhaeng.jpg
"speckhäng" (my sister hanging from a high bar...)



well, and now to the "real" sketchbook, my first page.
tried to make it fun for me so that i can remember everything more easily... and hopefully you can enjoy it, too...
i'm thankful for every kind of hint what i do wrong, because i know that it's much harder giving up bad habits than learning how to do it right in the first place. :)

in case you can't read my handwriting just tell me and i'll type my comments in the future...



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-01.jpg

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[stine]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-02.jpg

[Erilaz]

Well, if you can get back tot the ability you show in your earlier work, i think you'll do great!:teeth:

[stine]

:) thanks for stopping by!
i guess the motto here is "back and beyond" if that makes any sense...
quick motion studies and everything like that -- the drawings above weren't quick at all, they took me a day or two in the making.
so i reeeeeaally want to improve that.
right now i'm working on a face study of bernini's "apoll and daphne", but i became awfully slow...:dad:

anyway, don't want to bore you, thanks for your comment. :D

[stine]

hi, i guess, that's a wrap for today. learned a lot just by doing some sketches, now all has to settle in my brain... :)

got my third page, so here we go.
hmmm, the scans of the pencil-drawings always look a bit harsh on the screen, so if anyone has a tipp...?!

i'll try to use everything i learned today on a new page tomorrow...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-03.jpg

[stine]

so that's what i came up with this morning...
i guess i'll stick with the nearly-profile and get a feel for proportions. people have so much forehead! guess, i've always put the eyes too high... so in my free time i'll start "inventing" a lot of different faces...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-04.jpg

[LoTekK]

Jesus, your older works are incredible. I nearly mistook your Madonna piece for a photo. The one of your sister has lovely color to it.

Nice studies so far, and I'm liking your note style/content (the muscle marriage cracked me up :D). I'll be watching you! :)

[stine]

thanks, lotekk! liked your sketchbook a lot, hopefully i can get to such dynamic poses in the next few weeks...

now i notice that some proportions in these old drawings are a bit off. but anyway, it was fun making them... :)
i realized i made the eyes on that male head a bit big, so i'm trying to avoid that in my latest sketches.
guess, tonight i can post my next page...

[bhanu]

Well ,your older stuff is quite nice .
Even I am learning the basics after drawing for years ,which reference books are you using.

[vali]

it is very important to do lifedrawings.try to learn something about light; it will help you improve your drawings which now just seem too flat, they have no depth

[stine]

hi there and thanks for taking the time to look at my stuff...

bhanu, right now i'm using a regular anatomy book (the sobotta) and look at a drawing book i borrowed in our library. it's the only one i could get and by andras szunyoghy... also, a friend of mine was kind enough to lend me his bob kato gnomon dvd's, so i thought i was well set. :)

vali, you're definetely right! unfortunately no one wants to be my model and we don't have any classes here, so i try to do my best and work with photo-references and a mirror... :) i hope to get more lights and shadows involved in future drawings, right now i'm just so busy with getting the proportions right (beginner's mistake, i guess...). thanks a lot for pointing that out!

so, i've got my 5th page done.
it's a combination of reference photos for body parts i wasn't sure how to draw and the measure-method. so it's half-reference half-invented. but the lady isn't too happy... guess it's still a long way, but it's only day 2...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-05.jpg

[cw]

those are some thorough looking SB pages :)

looks like you're getting on fine, your stuff already looks decent, and your older work is very finely rendered, so I look forward to seeing more of your progress :D

good luck :)

[stine]

thanks a lot!
well, my last page for today. i sketched a little bit bigger now and took a little bit more interesting person... i seriously need to work on my hair-rendering... :)



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-07.jpg

[vali]

omg
iti is v. beautiful the last one
yey!!!!!

[stine]

thanks, vali! *blush*
i did it from a photo reference - in case you're interested, it's here (http://www.stockholmsgruppen.com/index.asp). great source for faces, by the way... the photo is in the people-section, men, age 50-100, and the gentleman's name is tommy p. :)
don't know whether it has any copyright, so i only post a link, not the photo itself...
when you compare you see that i'm still far away from getting a serious resemblance, but i was really glad i could manage the proportions. one step after the other... :)
i decided to stick with faces for now -- got my hands on the loomis-books and try to read them over the weekend and hopefully finish another page.

again, thanks everybody for responding!
cheers,
stine

[stine]

another page
"speed drawing"...:teeth:


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-08.jpg

[Infinit]

nice drawings
it´s good to see that you don´t only have photography skills

[stine]

hi there, infinit, you're the first one to post in both my threads, thanks a lot! :)

so, i got my last page for today, it's again a profile after photo reference (same source as last times...) still trying to get all the proportions right and slowly get to a resemblance.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-09.jpg

[stine]

okay, another small and quick sketch. did it this morning. try to use more b/w photos in the future to concentrate a little more on values (my rendering is poor so far...).

next time i want to use old photographs because they normally have interesting things like hats, unique glasses, strange hairdos etc...
well, i know this thread isn't very exciting, but i hope you can tell that i have a lot of fun learning the basics. so i'm just silently working on... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-10.jpg

[Infinit]

why don´t you get yourself a book with photographs by
August Sander
like: "Antlitz der Zeit" or "Menschen des 20. Jahrhunderts"
?

they are great references and show a lot of different types of people

nice works btw
it´s just fine if they are fun to you cause thats the way it should be^^

[tensai]

nice sketches, and love the drawing of your sister.
just keep on banging that stuff out.

[LoTekK]

I'm loving the faces. You've picked really interesting subjects, and really nice rendering. Love the shading. Your sketchbook itself is great, too, what with the notes, and the random clippings. Cool stuff. :)

[stine]

hey guys, thanks a lot for commenting...
infinit - great tipp with the book. i used one of mine that has a huge collection of photos, but i didn't know that august-sander-book. our library has it, so i ordered it and can hopefully pick it up tomorrow.

tensai - nice of you to stop by a rookie's sketchbook, really appreciated!

and lotekk - if you like the clippings you will like my next page. :) thanks for your nice comment!

i was actually looking for a little more dramatic lights and tried to render the face a little more. i found portraits of 50's moviestars very interesting, but then decided to draw the explorer fridtjof nansen... i'm not totally happy with it and have to check more anatomy to get the lightning right...

so here we go. i guess that's the last page for today, but i'll try to post some more tomorrow. the photo of nigel kennedy is for reference. it's an extreme lightning, but i found it very interesting...
thanks again for visiting... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-11.jpg

[karichristensen]

Great head drawings! I'm curious what the whole character looks like.

[asoir]

Lovely clean style, keep practicing.

[stine]

hi and thanks a lot!
sorry, karichristensen, but i guess i'm far away from getting a whole figure done, so i'll stick with heads for a while... :)

so, here's my page for today. had to work, so i only had time for one drawing... again from photo reference and this time it's my mom in 1968.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-12.jpg

[stine]

went back to a little anatomy to get rid of things i have the tendency to do wrong: making the space between nose and upper lip too long and not getting the nose-base right...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-13.jpg

[Infinit]

Hi there nice sketches and studys

be carefull not to concentrate on heads (or anything else) too much. if you do so you might get stuck and you will have problems to get a balanced overall feel

just jump in the cold water and do some fullbody drawings (we can´t say worse things then "you suck go home" ^^)

btw: my first postings of fullbody pics were grose, a shame, terrible and much more
but people will help you!

[Doronila]

Hey there Stine, neat sketchbook, loving the pencils.
Have to say Fridtjof is me fave drawing :) Like the lighting on the bugger.

Keep it up. Till next time.

[Tobin]

keep the studies up they are looking good. I find that pushing my knowledge and trying to draw the head at difficult angles improves your knowledge of the form and makes it much easier to draw. also try not to focus just on the head. start doing some studies on the body too.

[stine]

thanks a lot, guys!
since two of you suggested to "jump" to full figure drawings, i guess i'll try it over the weekend. guess the first ones will look really weird since i've never done such drawings, but anyway. would be great if you could help me a little with them... :)
nice of you to visit again. oh, and infinit: i'll try and draw a selfportrait - sorry i didn't get it at first, i remembered knowing the 'abkürzung' the moment i read your comment in my guestbook. :)

see ya!

stine

[Xpose]

Keep at it man! You've got great potential!

[stine]

oh, thanks so much, xpose!
you guys can really keep my motivation-level high! greatly appreciated!

so, here's my very first attempt in figure-drawing. i studied michelangelo, raffael and leonardo yesterday night and wanted to draw some of them. but then i watched a second-world-war-refugee-documentary on tv - they zoomed in photographs really slowly and i thought i could draw a little in that time.
after that i refined it with correct proportions etc.
well, it's a starting point, right? :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-14.jpg

[afgal]

Your first ones rock! I like the note taking too.

[Infinit]

thats a good begining
the anatomy looks right, too

on the internet I got a "aküfi" -> "Abkürzungsfimmel"

http://www.orlyowls.com/owls/orly.jpg
http://www.orlyowls.com/owls/old/yarly.jpg
http://www.orlyowls.com/owls/old/nowai.jpg

keep it up! watching you like you bring up these pics daylyis great

O RLY OWLS RULE!!!111!!! ;)


(changed on request, I hope it doesn´t anoy people anymore)

[karichristensen]

the sketch of your mom looks great!

[stine]

thanks a lot! just came home from work and will finish another page i started this morning... hope i can post it tonight!

[stine]

so, there's my new page -- just getting used to the full figure proportions by drawing small silhouettes. these are much more forgiving for a beginner like me, but i'm planning to go into the details, don't worry! :)
oh, it's from photo-reference, old photos from the 1920's. each person took me 2-5 minutes. yeah, i know, i'm pretty slow, but it's only day 08... :P


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-15.jpg

[Infinit]

good
you really show talent when it comes to figure drawing
I rly don´t know what scared you that much
I esp like the way you shade, it makes your figures very lifely

the legs of the policeman with the "pickelhaube" look odd, too thin and far apart imo

I esp like #2 counted from top

[stine]

thanks!
drawing silhouettes is actually a lot of fun! and you're right, the policeman looks a little strange...
i continued a little bit today - found some photos of a maneuver in 1913 and tried to draw horses, just for the fun of it.
each took me about 3 minutes, some were faster (saving grace...). :)

hope you like them...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-16.jpg

[stine]

hi there,
a little hectic today so i unfortunately rushed the sketches a little. i'm not really happy with it, but i didn't want to spend the day without drawing and i will show you the ugly stuff, too... .) so here we go:


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-17.jpg


so i packed my bags and will be gone for a week or so. hopefully i find the time to draw and maybe a computer to post my stuff.
thanks for visiting!

oh, and infinit: you've got one week to scan your stuff, i wanna see something! naaa, just kiddin'. :)

[LoTekK]

Sweet! I love the little thumbnail drawings you're doing, especially the first round of 1920s folk; the lighting on those is great, and for such little things, they show a lot of attitude.

[stine]

oh, thanks a lot, lotekk! i've been travelling for a few days, unfortunately nothing scan-worthy to present here (just some quick train-station-sketches), but i hope to find some time the next few days...

[stine]

hello again,
i'm still on "vacation" and found a book about soccer-world-championship 1978 in argentina. and since this year's world championship is here in germany i thought a little quiz would be nice: i draw small portraits of famous (?) soccer players/coaches and you can guess who it is if you like... (i give small hints)

hmmm, i like watching football (as we call it here), but i'm not a huge fan, so sorry if i don't pick the most famous players but the most interesting photos...

so here's my first one


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-18.jpg


i'm already working on my next one, maybe someone from the german or swedish team... :)

[ArcoNL]

Very nice sketchbook, you show both talent and perseverance...
I cannot guess however who the football dude is...Really, really not into football.....

[stine]

thanks a lot, arco! i think my next football-dude will be an "oranje"... :)

well, before that my next page. those guys are fun to draw, because some of the pics have hilarious expressions -- most of the photos were taken right before the game, so mostly they squint and sing the national anthem. really funny! :)
here we go, round 02:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-19.jpg

[ArcoNL]

French player = Platini?

[stine]

oh my god, we have a WINNER! :)
yep, it's michel platini. did you recognize him or was it my very "subtle" hint?

[ArcoNL]

It was an educated guess. It's the only name of a French fussbal player I can come up with. :P
I told you I'm really not into football.
Especially those over the top crazy dutch football fans, all dressed in orange and wearing the most ridiculous outfits (giant wooden clogs, tulips, carrots) etc.
And if you really want to see something disgusting: go take a look at Helmpje (http://www.helmpje.nl). The guy who came up with this "fantastic" commercial idea should be shot....

[stine]

thanks for the link, i really laughed out loud when seeing that page... some fans are just a little crazy... "unfortunately" they are not allowed to wear them in germany to the championships... at least that's what i understood reading the texts (my dutch isn't good at all).

well, it's a pity you "only" guessed. i didn't know platini was famous (sorry, i'm really not a football-fan!), but i guess i have to work on my resemblance-level anyway, so i better get going.
thanks for stopping by, arco. see you here or in your sketchbook (great leonardo-studies btw, but i'll tell you that in your book!).

[ArcoNL]

They are not allowed to wear the helmets to the Orange training matches before the tournement, but the Dutch national football organization can't forbid anything in Germany. I personally find it a bit tasteless to wear bright orange nazi helmets to the championships in Germany.

But don't worry too much about your portraits. They are pretty good as far as I can tell.....

[bhanu]

Nice hmm,
Nice studies ,There arent as many anatomical peices I would have liked though.
A thread to watch out for.

[stine]

thanks, bhanu. nice of you to visit again. you're absolutely right, i should start with anatomy studies. i guess i'm still shying away a bit... right now i'm still on vacation, but when i get home a friend of me is nice enough to lend me his hogarth books. so i guess i'll start with anatomy next week...
thanks for pointing that out, sometimes i'm just too hesitant. :)

[stine]

so here we go, third and last page for today... :) well, you can see the concentration-level going down so i'll try it tomorrow with a fresh look...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-20.jpg

[stine]

here we go. week 3 and i've got a new page, this time with long-"promised" sp. done with mirror, but i gave myself another focus-point to make it a bit more interesting. but i guess i'll do the next one looking forward...
sometimes i feel like noses are my natural enemies, so i really have to work on them... :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-21.jpg

[stine]

joi, another small doodeling-page. still portraits until i get back to my anatomy books... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-22.jpg

[Tobin]

this is all good work i especially like the sp , but what the hell are you drawing on... is this printer paper on top of concrete ? Theres a texture there that doesn't seem to be from the pencil, and it makes the line and texture hard to read, and if it is something under the paper its probably making it hard for you to draw too...

[Infinit]

Hi there
back again!

nice pics all the way,
I hope to see some anatomy stuff and/or stuff from mind in here soon
(aus reinem interesse mit was für ideen du so daherkommst :) )

see you Infinit

[stine]

hi there!
thanks for re-visiting, torin! heh, the "concrete" is my desk here. it's not that bad on the original drawings (and it's not harder to draw), but it shows a lot more on the scans. when i get home i'll have my better "equipment"... :)

and of course welcome back, infinit! really nice you keep coming around! how's the scanning doing? (mal'n bißchen druck machen hier...) :)
the anatomy-stuff will start when i get home and the mind-drawings will hopefully come along with the practice... but i'm definetely having more fun already (and feeling more confident) to draw from imagination...
always appreciate your comments!

so, i'll draw a last "before to bed" drawing, will post that tomorrow, i guess. thanks a lot, guys!

[Infinit]

scanning has to wait for my ABI !
after my ABI it has to wait for Vodca two more days I guess^^

see you around Infinit

[stine]

no worries, man! take your time! finishing school has some priorities right now! oops, that reminds me of stucking my heads in the books again... *leaves to the library*... naaah, i'm on vacation! :) anyway, nice of you to take the time to visit every now and then in these stressy times. much appreciated!

[stine]

oh, i just realized i reached my second page! yippieh! :)

okay, new page. some "relaxation"...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-23.jpg

[stine]

man, when i first opened the forum today, the scientology ad scared the crap out of me... the celebrity-section is really creepy! :) didn't realize it was april 1st quite some minutes... but then i thought what if nature knew aprils fools? so my quick sketches became quite weird. just a little fun in between...
tried to loosen up my style a little and not going so dark too early. creates some new problems scanning the drawings, but anyway:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-24.jpg

[Infinit]

wow
...sucks to be an octoflea^^

a loose and sketchy style is very Ok
cause it´s good to be able to bring movement and comlpete figures on the paper fast
but never lose the will to create more "finished" pieces

otherwise you could get stuck on speeddrawing

[stine]

haha, yeah i wouldn't want to be such a creature. imagine how it looks when he actually jumps. damn, i have to become so much better to not only imagine stuff but actually be able to draw it... :(

thanks for the advice with the speeddrawing, i guess i was so concentrated on drawing faster that i'm going for another extreme... will work on more finished stuff soon...

[stine]

okay, some small and quick sketches. i've been working on another one but then i had to wait in an abandoned apartment for 45 minutes. after 30 minutes of looking out of the window i got bored. i only had a small pad and a blue ballpen with me and there was nothing in the apartment. but they had a mirror in the bathroom, so i drew some expressions and a looking-not-so-serious self portrait... sorry for the bad quality, but i couldn't scan them but had to take photos...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/burg.jpg


left to to right:
happy camper sp" (yes, i am a teenytinybit cross-eyed...)
i just have to practice noses
poking my tongue out (damn, that was exhausting holding this expression...):)
wrinkeling my nose (another painful expression after a while, makes you sketch really fast...)

[Infinit]

hrhrhr
great "forget to breath" you´ll soon remember^^
what do you do in an abadoned apartment for 45 minuits anways?

but ballpens are great
I use them a lot
just because you can't erase your lines!
Kreuzschraffur is da das beste

[stine]

*breathe in -- breathe out*
yep, i remebered it pretty soon... :)
thanks for having another look, infinit! "treue seele" sozusagen, dank dir!

i've never worked with ballpen, but it surely teaches you some kind of efficency and care about the lines. need to work on my hatching, thought. just a little fun.

oh, and the house with is my granddad's and i was just waiting in an apartment that isn't rented right now... now that i think about it, waiting 45 minutes in an abandoned apartment sounds quite strange...:)

thanks a lot for visiting, hope your preparing for ABI isn't too stressy... heads up. forgot to ask what's your plan for after that, keep me updated!
oops, time for bed.

[stine]

hello again.
following your advice, infinit, i took a little more time. and a harder pencil. and smooth paper... :)

so, that's the result. the scanner didn't get all the values, but it's okay, i think... as always, crits and comments most welcome!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-25.jpg

[Infinit]

that´s so true I once tyed to draw a girraffe from mind
but well...it didn´t work

^^ :)

concerning the style: you´ll sure find your way (everybody does but it takes a wile to find out)

[ArcoNL]

Dude, great giraffe!

Cheers,
Arco

[stine]

thanks for stopping by, guys!
well, right now i'm pretty bad at drawing ANYTHING without reference, so i better continue practising...
still working on my next page, some more animals... hey arco, if we put together all our animal sketches (loooooove your last page!) we can open a zoo! :)

oh, and infinit: thanks for your mail - hope your exams went fine. and there's bunch of new photos in my gallery, so i'm not "neglecting" my other thread! :)

[stine]

so here's another page... still trying to find my way between "ultra-rendered" and "absolutely loose". not that easy...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-26.jpg

[ArcoNL]

Great new page! Love the snake......

Cheers,
Arco

[stine]

thanks a lot, arco! hopefully i can get a better encyclopedia when i get home, the photos in the one i'm using aren't that great and drawing animals i a lot of fun... :) which book are you using?

[stine]

so i found this photo in a magazine. yeah, i know: i tend to taking way too difficult subjects for a beginner like me... not totally happy with it, but i guess i'll redo it when i studied hogarth (getting the books today). hands, feet and drapery are on the agenda,too... :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-27.jpg

[ArcoNL]

thanks a lot, arco! hopefully i can get a better encyclopedia when i get home, the photos in the one i'm using aren't that great and drawing animals i a lot of fun... :) which book are you using?

I have three rather old encyclopedias which have a problem in that most of the images are drawings rather than photos. So last night I discussed this with my wife. I will start using her photo's (she's a horse & animal photographer).

Cheers,
Arco

[bhanu]

Some really interesting studies.
I think I am also going to go your way ,picking up some encylopedia ,I suck at drawing animals.
The last is quite good, you are right you went a bit hard on the lines ont eh hand ,they are bit darker.
Its fun to see your sketchbook.
Keep working.

[stine]

hey, thanks for having a look at my sketches...

arco - yeah, it's kind of hard to find a good book on animals. mine had photos, but they were all in a low quality and looked almost a little blurry... but i keep looking, although i guess i'm going to start my studies on the human figure now... great you have that "source" with your wife's photography, looking forward to your new sketches! :)

bhanu - thanks a lot for stopping by and the encouraging words. you're absolutely right with the hands. guess i fell for the beginner's mistake of redrawing a bad line and emphazising it with that instead of just leaving it alone...:) hands and feet are SO on my agenda for the next days/weeks.

try to finish another page tonight, but id on't know for sure whether i'll make it... anyway, thanks again!

[stine]

so, started with my hogarth book today. man, that's a lot to learn. but it's real fun. so here's my first page of "notes" i took...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-28.jpg

[stine]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-29.jpg

[stine]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-30.jpg

[Infinit]

wow nice
I see progress!

PS: ABI! :)

[stine]

thanks, friend! and congrats to your abi, party hard, you deserve it! :) *goes off to work on the next page...*

[Dile_]

Nice 'Hogarth' stuff!
nice studies overall..Keep on it :D
Edit** what is the book's name ?

[Mitchell]

I'm also in the midst of studying hogarth. Definately keep it up. I've learned a lot from him already for the little amount that I've studied so far. Looking real good!

[stine]

hi! thanks for stopping by!

dile: thanks a lot! it's a german book called "hogarth's zeichenschule" (hogarth's drawing school) and it's a compilation of his books dynamic figure drawing, dynamic anatomy, drawing the human head, drawing dynamic hands, drawing wrinkles and drapery and dynamic light and shade
if i'm reading it right, it was originally published in the "evergreen"-series...
it's really great having all of these informations in one book, althought it's not newly sorted by topics so you have to flip through it some times...

skeiff: thank you! i will definetely have a look at your sketchbook then. i've only started my hogarth-studies yesterday, so i guess you're way ahead of me... :)

so, here's my latest page. still working on hands and feet and general rhythm. sometimes i find it a little bit difficult to work from somebody else's sketches instead of "objective" photos. but that's probably just getting used to it. i guess i will mix my hogarth-studies with photo-ref and life-drawing anyways...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-31.jpg

[stine]

well, hogarth is a lot to learn, so i did some small portraits from photo for relaxation...
did it with blue pencils my grandpa had for his office work and i now have (about 25 of them...:)). they have very fine pigments, but they are almost impossible to correct (because that's what they were made for). well, as if i needed another challenge... :) hmmm, the scan didn't get all the values, but i guess you get the idea.
looked for interesting people and found the old woman in a magazine. it's not often you get to see people without teeth. and the guy is a famous german politican from the 50s and NOT humphrey bogart...

i found it interesting to draw a little strange and uneven faces and see whether i can transport their features without people telling me the anatomy is off... so what do you think?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-32.jpg

[Ham-e]

what do I think? bloody great thats what!! I notice your drawings are tightening up in the more recent posts, they are all great drawings but I like the looser ones better like the puffin drawing for example, you've got a great style so let it shine. This is my 2 cents: actual value 1 cent Canadian.

[Infinit]

nice portraits
drawing old people and "not perfect" anatomy is important
it´s much more interresting then drawing models, too!

now that I´v patyed hard enough it´s about time to get into art (and Diablo 2) again!

see you around Infinit

[ArcoNL]

Stine,

great portraits....You've inspired me to try colored pencils myself....

Cheers,
Arco

[stine]

thanks so much for visiting!
ham-e: welcome to my little book! tightening up and developing a little cleaner style was actually what i was going for. but i will go back to the "loose" style eventually, i just thought i should be able to do both... :)


infinit: hey, there! what about a serious hangover? :) so, now that you're done with school i'm still waiting for the longpromised scans... :)

arco: jup, colored pencils are great. but they cause a little more trouble scanning them, i think. looking forward to see you using them. :)

thanks for having a look,
cheers

stine

[stine]

hi there! studied hogarth's different age stages today and realized i hadn' t drawn any kids. struggled a little with it... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-33.jpg

[Ham-e]

The kids are looking good lets see some more. I stoped by your website...those 3d animations are great! I also do some 3d stuff if you want you can check out some samples at http://ham-e.cgsociety.org

[Alcian]

Yeah, hogarth is the man, his books are all you need a long with bridgman. Looks like you got good pencil skill, the latest faces look like they have been drawn so softly. But the girl with one eye is scarey. Drawing lots and lots of figures will help, books are all well and good, but applying it is better. (I draw from books too muc, ack!). Nice studies, keep it up.

[stine]

thanks, ham_e! i'm such a newbie when it comes to 3d. just little fun projects. your modeling looks great, wish i could do something like that... you're using 3dsmax?

and thanks a lot alcian, that girl just didn't work, so i left her like that. but i guess i'll draw her again when i'm a bit better...

anyways, a little selfportrait. wanted to work with tinted paper for quite a while. "stole" the pose from leonardo, but "re-enacted" it. :) just to do some life drawing instead of working from books all the time...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-34.jpg

[Latu]

Hi there, I'm here to prove that SSG's can help.
Judging by most of your sketches there are'nt any construction lines I would suggest you rectify this. Though there may not be any construction lines you show an aptitude for observing the outline of the form. Lastly keep drawing as much from life as possible, till next time bye for now.

p.s. The design of your website and content are welldone, I like it alot.

edit:Above I'm talking about the 1st page of your SB here did'nt realise there was a second so this doesnt apply to the second page.

I like how you did'nt get bogged down in copying the Hogarth legs and try to immitate his drawing style and used your own more comfortable way of deciphering his drawings I do the same thing. Also the reinactment of the Davinci drawing is nice also, is it a self portrait using a mirror must of been difficult to draw the eyes looking down if it was.

[ArcoNL]

Stine,

lovely portrait that last one....very, very Leonardo....

Cheers,
Arco

[stine]

thanks for the comments!

nii - thanks for stopping by! well noticed! i still try and avoid looking for the outline first. bad habit... but i'm glad it shows a little on the second page... :) i normally use construction lines, i just try to get rid of them in the end, cause i find them kind of disturbing. mostly i just keep the measurement points (as you see in most sketches on the first page)... oh, and the portrait was done with the mirror but also with leonardo's sketch in front of me. it was my goal to understand everything he did by seeing it "in life". so the drawing is a combination of both... oh, and thanks for the compliments on my website. it's always so hard to decide what could possibly represent yourself a little... :)

arco - thanks a lot! :)

[stine]

had some leftovers from a bookbindery-project, so i started drawing on it a little... not totally happy with it, have to practise a lot more... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-35.jpg

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine, i really like your style, i see you're in to portraits like i am in to portraits. You're really getting the human head down which i personally think is one of the hardest elements of the human body to draw. I was also wondering if you joined a sketch group yet? Because i'm looking to join a sketch group as well. I saw you in the lounge and was wondering what your progress was on the sketch group issue.

[stine]

hi there ashrumm, nice of you to stop by! we haven't created a new sketchgroup yet, but nii would be in it, too. so we are kind of an "unofficial" group right now... so if you want to join us, that would be great. still dunno whether we can simply create a new group. sorry, has been a quite busy day... i will certainly stop by your book soon! :)

[Ham-e]

Hey, I love the self portrait, I love the look of the red, black and white it's like the Watteau drawings which are awesome...I'll have to try my hand at that if I can find some nutral coloured paper lying around.

I'm glad you got a chance to look at my models, thanks for the kind words, these days I work with Maya and Zbrush...that one laughing buddha character was modeled in 3ds max.

[stine]

thanks, ham-e. tinted paper is a lot of fun! i used very simple wrapping paper. maybe not very professional, but it kind of worked and actually i like the material...
but i really have to work on how to place the white... :) studied leonardo before bed and maybe i'll try some "grotesques". not only going for the pretty stuff like i'm used to do... :)

zbrush, huh? damn, there's always so much to experiment with, learn and try. wish i had more time... :)

[stine]

back to hogarth...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-36.jpg

[Darktwin]

great studies stine, love the blue portraits, you really captured the faces well. Your on the right track. Keep em coming, your doing great.

[sith]

those faces are looking great, stine. I also really liked that madonna drawing in your first post.

Keep up the good work. I can see a definite improvement already.

[stine]

darktwin, sith: thanks a lot for your encouraging words... portraits became sort of my "comfort zone". i just have to take care of leaving it every now and then to learn something new (and a little scary) like hands and stuff. :)

[Latu]

Graet to see your keeping up with the Hogarth studies made me realise a should make more use of my copy of Dynamic Anatomy, I've had it for so long but never really made alot of studies from it.

[Uziel]

you're getting better and better.
Nice sketchbook, keep up the good work.

Uzi

[Mitchell]

yes the portraits are looking spectacular. Already started on hands eh? death to hands is what I say. haha.

[stine]

thanks a lot.
nii - yeah, the hogarth is really helpful. i'm really glad i have this book. ordered bridgman today at amazon, because i couldn't get it anywhere here. really looking forward to have a look into his books... :)

uziel - thanks a lot! :)

skeiff - thanks. hands are killing me right now...:) but the beginning is always a little harder. the more you know the less scared you are the better your drawings look. so i just keep going on... thanks for the nice comment!

[stine]

well, i told you hands are killing me... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-37.jpg

[Zaknafain]

the hogarth stuff is nice.
Was fürn Buch hast du denn von ihm?

[Alcian]

The hand studies are showing improvement. When drawing hands look at the negative spaces between the fingers - they are more helpful than just drawing the fingers as you see them. What works best is: draw the overal shape (a few straight lines), lightly indicate where the fingers are then draw in the negative spaces, hope that helps. ~Alcian

[stine]

thanks for stopping by!

zaknafain - grüße nach sindelfingen! :) it's a german book called "hogarth's zeichenschule". it's a compilation of his books dynamic figure drawing, dynamic anatomy, drawing the human head, drawing dynamic hands, drawing wrinkles and drapery and dynamic light and shade.
so you've got kind of a "best of" hogarth. i borrowed it from a friend, so i don't know how expensive it was. i like it a lot, but as i said before, you sometimes have to flip through because they didn't rearrangened it by topic...


alcian - thanks for the great tip! wouldn't have thought of that... guess i simply have to concentrate more on the space a body covers in space than on the 2d form. thanks for reminding me!

[Ivan.R]

Hi stine! you have a nice sketchbook. I may say that you are the most expirienced in our SSG. There are some nice face drawings. Keep up drawing!

[stine]

thanks ivan. but i don't think i'm the experienced at all. i haven't even started doing full figures... still struggeling with the hands. but i guess only 9,997 more and i'll understand it. :)

next ones. this time from life. and i have to say that hogarth's measurements don't fit my hands at all. i'm a freak, i knew it... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-38.jpg

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine, about your hands they are coming along quite nicely you have a nice gesture, but i also see hesitation lines in your work as well. What you may want to try doing is pick some of your favorite artists works and draw thier hands. Do a whole page of hands. Not only draw from life but also from other artists to see how they approach hands. Also if you have a digital camera take pictures of your hand in contorted and crazy poses this will help see how the hand moves as well at the hands limitations. I'm glad to be in the sketchgroup

And here's another tip to break the hand up into 2 parts. From the wrist to the knuckles is one half and from the knuckles to the tip of the middle finger is the second half. Thats way way to mentally gear your mind to breaking it down into 2 parts.

[stine]

thanks, ashrumm. you bet there are hesitation lines! :) thanks for the tipp, i'll draw hands from reference tomorrow. but drawing from life today was good, gave me a general idea for the volume, now i just have to practise and get those measurements in my head...
yup, i'm glad we have our "ssg no.20", too! :)
oh, btw: you study 3d modelling? wow, that's great...

[Ashrumm]

Yeah i study 3d modeling, its interesting you asked, because i had a talk with my department head and we both agreed the better you can draw means the better you can understand and see form. Which basically means you can pretty much do anything artistically speaking. So i'm actually customizing my curriculum to more of an illustartion/3d hybrid kind of duo. I'm really excited he said i could customize my curriculum. I can't wait to see what you have up i'll talk to you later.

cheers

[Latu]

Good hand sketch it, seems you're aware of the negetive space consciuosly or subconsciuosly which helps alot when describing a form.

[stine]

whoa, i'm on page 3! damn, better get something good starting here... :)

thanks a lot for the comments, guys.
ashrumm - great news! that really sounds exciting and i think illustration and 3d compliment each other in a great way!

nii - thanks man. alcian told me about the negative space a little while ago. before that i was too concentrated on the actual form. thanks for pointing that out again, i really have to get that into my head... :)

okay, another small update. some of the bridgman books i ordered came today and i had a glance at it. very interesting and a way more loose approach than hogarth, i think.
so i followed your advice, ashrumm, and drew from reference (magazines), life (my own hands) and a little bridgman.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-39.jpg

[stine]

just having a little fun freeze-framing "once upon a time in the west"... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-40.jpg

[Corel Painter IX]

nice stuffs you got there. I think you are a really craftman. I love those classical figures too. good luck

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine, you've got a Bridgeman book awesome, everyone recommends bridgeman so its a good thing you got it. Very cool i see you're mixing it up what is the blue pencil you are using is it a col-erase blue? Not that it matters i'm just curious. The hands you first drew look like bridgeman very nice hands by the way. My favorite, from this post is that gesture of the head at the bottom i'm jealous nice head! :P

[stine]

thanks, corel painter! that' s really nice...

ashrumm - hey there, thanks a lot! the bridgman books are really great... guess i'll be quite busy in the next days (or weeks, months and years...).:)
the blue pencil isn't a col-erase. i didn't get any here and so i used blue pencils i got from my grandpa. like them a lot!

so, here's another small update. again from "once upon a time in the west". needed to practise kids/teens and i liked her expression...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-41.jpg

[Ham-e]

Hi stine,

Nice work! I really like these drawing from the movie, the old man is great... so is the girl. You've really got great drawing skills! I like to draw from movies as well, I don't freeze frame though, that would spoil the movie, instead I try to capture a scene or character while the movie plays, Fun:)

Anyway looks great can't wait to see more:teeth:

[Latu]

Nice sketch from the movie, I'll try that myself sometime.

[stine]

thanks, ham-e. drawing from movies is a lot of fun, i think. but right now i still need the freeze frames. not good enough to capture everything just at a glance... :) well, i have sort of a time limit, because after 10 minutes pause my dvd player shuts itself down... :)

hey, nii! thanks for stopping by. you should definetely try it. i took "once upon a time in the west" because it has these great close-ups... :)

[bhanu]

Nice progression,
Your hand studies are look more and more strong.
Keep up the good work.

[Ashrumm]

oooh, another portrait i really like your portraits, you capture what needs to be captured and you leave it at that. I guess when do portraits i get caught up in unecessary rendering. I think i'm going to try portraits this way. Good work Stine!!

[stine]

hi there! hope you guys all have a nice easter-weekend!?
bhanu - thanks a lot! i'm still struggeling with the hands but i'll just go on. thanks a lot for the encouraging words! :)

ashrumm - thanks! as i said, portraits are my "comfort zone". everytime something else doesn't work or is too stressy (like hands...) i do a portrait. didn't have much time today, so it's just a rough sketch of claudia cardinale. hope you like it... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-42.jpg

[Mitchell]

ooo the last portrait is rockin'. Very subtle but still enough detail to capture her beauty. One thing I would like to see though is a bit more confidence in your lines. Try not to go over your lines too much. Good job Stine keep it up!

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine!! I agree with Skeiff this portrait is rocking I really like how you made the focal point the eye. Good work i really like what i'm seeing!!

[Infinit]

Hi there I´m back again
nice pics all around!

I´ll come back later to comment one speciall ones! (too tired now)
only my conceptart.org adiction made me stay on long enough to wait for conceptart to "resurrect"

see you Infinit

[stine]

thanks a lot, guys!
yeah, i definetely have to work on my lines. althought my scanner makes the linework look a little "fuzzier" than it is in some places... no excuse, need to work on it, no doubt. :) thanks for pointing that out, skeiff!

thanks, ashrumm. those arm studies of yours are great. tinted paper is so much fun, isn't it?!

and welcome back infinit! hope your skitrip was fun... :)

couldn't get into the forum the whole day and now i'm without a scanner til this afternoon. only did some small studies with bridgman, but i'll post them later. thanks again, see ya,

stine

[stine]

so, here we go.
i was looking for some dynamic poses and thought about the marx brothers... so here are some sketches from "animal crackers"... :) well, it's a looooooong way ahead of me, but i'm trying...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-43.jpg

[ArcoNL]

good gestures, especially the 'dancing' ones....keep doing them!

Cheers,
Arco

[Ivan.R]

Hi, stine, some of your poses look good but you should do some more. Try to do as much as you can, I draw poses in the bus, at the station, I draw my sister in home etc.

[stine]

thanks, arco! :)

thanks for stopping by, ivan! as i said, it's only a starting point. i definetely have to do a lot more poses until i get a clue of the human form... :)

[Wolfbane]

wow, love ur style and characters <3 And ur hands look great (especialy the thumb :teeth: ) Anyways, great job, and keep the sketches rolling =)

[Ashrumm]

Awesome i See someone else is doing some figure gesture drawing awesome the dancing ones are fantastic the funny thing about this post is you pretty much nailed the hardest ones. It seems as though the ones in motion are your best ones and the static poses are your weakest sketches keep them coming.

[stine]

thanks, wolfbane! great book you have there, looking forward to another update of yours! :)


and thanks, ashrumm. yep, saw those drawings in your book and thought i should try that. mine are far from your detail and anatomy, but i'm trying a little... :) guess, i got the more dynamic ones better because they have a more significant silhouette. and they're more fun. maybe that shows, too. well, lot of work ahead of me... :)

here's another small update, didn't have that much time today, had to work on my thesis...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-44.jpg

[Dile_]

hey, nice sketchbook Stine!
good gesture drawings, and the hand in the first post off your on this page!
Goooooddd work keep on going ;)

[Darktwin]

Hey stine, I'm loving your portraits, very soft but very alive at the same time. nice bridgeman studies also. keep em coming, great work.

[stine]

thanks, dile! nice of you to have another look at my sketchbook! :)
i'm still struggeling with the hands, but i'll keep trying...

darktwin - thanks a lot! the blue pencils are adding a lot to that soft impression, i think. i got red ones from the same brand, so i guess, i'll give that a shot and see how it looks... :)

[Latu]

Your gesture drwings are comming along nicely, I also find dynamic poses alot more enjoyable to draw especialy with a good silhouette. Try and draw quik skeletal roughs of the gestures, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. That said your doing well without them, I like the few lines it took for you to define the face top left of the last sketch, well done.

[stine]

thanks lot for the tipp, nii! i will definetely try that!

just a small update from this morning. not much time... thesis...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-45.jpg

[Ham-e]

Hi Stine:)

Really like your updates, the marx brothers poses are great! My humble suggestion for the hands is that you aproach them as though they were a dynamic figure, hands are very expressive think of them as having a life of their own. loosen up a bit: Try to do a few blind pure contour drawings really slowly, it won't look much like a hand, but I find it's a useful exercise.

waiting for the next update:overhere:

[Dreln]

I love seeing hand studies, always helps me see more poses and foreshortening. One thing I like to do is block out hands using...well blocky shapes:) One for the palm, one or two for groups of fingers then one last one for the thumb. Don't be afraid to make blocky hand studies because it really help with form and the understanding of lighting on the hand.

After you are comfy with that you can add more facets to your blocks and make separate blocked out fingers. This is juts the way I like to do it anyways, everyone has their methods:)

Keep up the good works!

[Wolfbane]

Hey Stine :teeth: Ur hand studies are getting along pretty well. Personaly love the first hand study <3 Ur eyes have so much depth and value, quite impressive. Ur charlie chaplin fellas speaks for themselves :teeth:
keep rocking :)

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine, you've been busy as well, Your gestures are awesome, and thanks for the comments regarding the anatomy, I don't think i'm that much further along than you are. Just give it a try just put basic shapes where you know key muscle groups go, for example balls for the shoulders and head, a cube or an egg for the rib cage etc. Actually i should probably go a bit more basic so i can get better understanding of how we are all connected. Your hands, yeah are pretty good but your fingers are a bit sausagey thats fine though everyone else already gave you really good advice on practicing hands just work real gestural for now don't worry about how they look try and get good structure first.

[stine]

thanks a lot for stopping by, guys.
's been a busy day (still is...), so no update (sorry)...

ham-e: thanks for having a look. so we're both doing our hand studies, eh? :) thanks for the tipp with the dynamic silhouettes. strange that i could get it fairly with the persons and struggle with the hands... and i'll definetely try that blind drawing. have heard of it before but forgot about it. thanks for reminding me. :)

dreln - hey, welcome to my little book and thanks for the comment. still need to get rid of the habit drawing everything from the outline and instead think of volumes and masses... thanks!

wolfbane - thanks for stopping by again! eyes are my friends, noses my natural enemies. :) so much to learn... guess my next drawing will be a portrait again. just for the fun of it... :)

ashrumm - thanks a lot. i will get into the body masses soon. wanted to get a general feel for proportions by these little silhouettes, now i have to start doing the nude figures to get the anatomy down. did some arm studies while watching nba yesterday (don't laugh!), but that's just a small beginning... thanks for stopping by! oh, my little apple sketch in bumskees thread was actually my very first post here. very cool you're doing that there. your apple's looking great! (better than mine...). :)

[Ashrumm]

Oh yeah i forgot to remind you that I saw your post there!:tihi:
Your apple was great, your very first post awesome! Well i'm looking forward to your next update i think i'm going to hit up on some more anatomy. I'll talk to you soon take care Stine :tihi:

[stine]

thanks, ashrumm. that apple was fun... keep going! great to see you that enthusiastic! :)

i've got just a very small update i'm not happy with. a little hectic this morning and i couldn't focus that well. so my sketches are way too loose. try to keep everything in mind you guys told me and maybe that's a little too much right now. dunno. wasn't that patient this morning. so that's the outcome. i post it anyway, cause it reminds me that there's no steady progress but baby-steps... :) oops, gotta hurry to the library. see ya!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-46.jpg

[ArcoNL]

Like the monkey and the panda very much. Looking good!
Keep on cracking at it!

Cheers,
Arco

[Cordy]

them animal studies are my favorite so far. go for it.

[Latu]

G'day Stine. Go hard on that thesis don't stress over updating if you'r too busy, not saying you can't juggle both I'm sure your having no problems. You hands are stil an issue, try pretending like your about to exagerate the curves but also stick with what your observing at the same time (I may sound more confusing than helpful). Good to see youve done some animal studies, have a go at more. Till next time.

[LoTekK]

Wow, been a while since I last visited your sketchbook. Looking fantastic, and great to see you've been keeping up with it. Love the Hogarth studies, they're showing some really nice form and lines. As before, I really like how you're doing your little thumbnail figures; it's impressive how much you're able to express with so little. :) The Marx brothers page is probably my favorite so far. :P Great animal studies, too. Are you doing any of the animals from life, or are you working from photos? If I could be so bold, I'd like to see more stuff from life. :)

[Infinit]

hi there the ape is great
cu Infinit

[stine]

arco - thanks a lot for having another look! looking forward to another update in your book!

cordy - thanks! :)

nii - hey mate, thanks for stopping by. still figuring out a routine that makes me handle everything. not a big deal, but busy... :) don't find your comment confusing at all and you're perfectly right. my lines need to become more "freehanded". don't know whether that is clear now... :)

lotekk - hey, nice of you to visit again and thanks for the compliment - guess with my silhouette the bad habit of working with the outline pays off a little... :) i'm mostly working from photographs and from dvd. trying to get away from freeze framing and getting to realtime. hands are mostly mine (from life). and the fact that i really struggle with them shows i should do more stuff from life! :)

infinit - hey, nice to see you again! thanks! :)


okay, did these small sketches in my lunchbreak. thought i'd go back to the masters and "comfort zoning" a little to get my head free. told you i would try the red pencils...:)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-47.jpg

[ohjay]

Hey Stine, funny to see you doing hand studies - I just started doing that myself! Haven't posted any yet, though.

That last bottom portrait is great in read - and your sketch of claudia cardinale is sooo loose and effective. Easy to see you're comfortable doing those...;)

Keep it up! First to reach 100 pages of hands? :P

[ArcoNL]

I think I like your comfort zone, nice updates!

Cheers,
Arco

[Wolfbane]

nice updates:) Love the monkey :P And the portraits in red
are gorgeous as allways. Keep em rolling :}

[Ham-e]

Love it! Nice updates! Keep them coming:teeth:

[bhanu]

The effects with colored pencils are impressive,
Although the last guy has a bit smaller skull for his head.
Keem em coming.

[stine]

thanks for stopping by!

ohjay - wow, that makes four of us, ham-e and arco are practising hands, too! :) 100 pages, uh? guess, it's gonna need more than 100 pages to make me understand hands, but i'm in! :P

arco - hey, thanks a lot. yup, it's cozy in there... :)


wolfbane - thanks! i'm waiting for your photoshop to arrive!


ham-e - thanks!


bhanu - thanks a lot and you're absoluteley right. i drew the cap a little too dark in the upper right. now it looks like it's ending there, but it's just fading into the shadow. my mistake, thanks for pointing it out!


so, a smallsmall update. like all the colored pen stuff it looks way more washed out than it actually is. gotta figure out how to scan those buggers correctly...
guess, that's a wrap for today. thanks for your comments! oh, and i almost forgot: we should re-activate that sketchgroup support digest in this forum and post every week's sketch we're most happy with, don't you think?! :yayca:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-48.jpg

[Ham-e]

I'll count the one I've already done...soooo...1 down...99 to go:painting:

[stine]

woooo, there's another participant! :D
okay, i have two, so i'm gonna need another 98. phew. that'll be tough... :$

[Ashrumm]

Awesome animal studies Stine, the panda rocks, Your portratis are freakin awesome, keep going! wow I really like what i'm seeing here geez, good heads.
your noses are looking good.

[stine]

thanks a lot, ashrumm! :) i've got that great cd rom with famous portraits of various artists. wow, so much to see and learn there. and i'm still at the letter c... :)

[Latu]

Wow brilliant portraits a nice sense of lumanence(<never consults dictionary). Keep them coming Stine!

[Dile_]

Stine: thats the one of the thing I at least can do :D
Indeed, your faces getting better, (I wish someone could teach me ;))
I like the red portraits , they are awsome! :D

[stine]

nii, dile: thanks a lot. didn't have much time today, so there's just a small update.
what can i say, i simply like the portrait stuff. and little old ladies are kind of my favourite... :)

but ohjay and ham-e keep me busy, their ahead of me with the hand pages. so that's probably my agenda for this weekend... :)

thanks a lot for visiting, guys!


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-49.jpg

[Ashrumm]

I find it funny that you enjoy drawing older ladies, because from my personal experience older people are harder to draw due to the wrinkles and facial detail it can be a pain if you know what i mean. I really like your portraits they look very fine art, due to the line variation and suddle tones in certain areas. Good work Stine, don't worry an update is an update. If its only one piece or a hundred progress is progress. See you on the flip side. :D

[Ham-e]

What can I say stine...another beautiful portrait!...your drawing skill is obvious and I'm sure you will transfer it to any subject matter if you choose to.

Great Work!!:teeth:

[stine]

ashrumm - thanks, bud. young people are kind of "boring" i guess. well, doesn't mean they're not challenging, but right now i'm kind of going for the other look.

ham-e - thanks a lot! i will just keep practising and trying to get myself a mental arsenal of faces that i can recall then... still far away from the full figure (not to mention the hands...) :)

hope you guys don't find another face boring, but i woke up this morning and wanted to do something in color... so here's my first attempt in drawing with colored pencil. strangely enough i haven't used any since elementary school. dunno, never interested me. weird...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-50.jpg

and a close-up to proof that it's not that "smudged" like it always seems in the reduced versions... :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-50-closeup.jpg

[Latu]

Killer updates loving your use of colour shows creative flair. His nose looks crook or it propably is in your reff. Your portraits show lots of personalitykeep drawing them.

[Smitherines]

Ok get out of the comfort zone and into the danger zone...im a dork, sorry. When it comes to your quick studies, try to draw the figure in the least amount of lines as possible...this also goes for longer poses. You are getting the chicken scratch effect by constantly drawing the same line over and over to define a shape....1 line is all you need. Remember that lines should be "S" and "C" curvers or straights

[Ham-e]

hey stine, sorry just time for a quick reply. Awesome work! Yes!! color pencil is your thing. You rock love the skin tone

[stine]

nii: hi there and thanks! yup, you're right. his nose is crook but not as much as i drew it. i'll try and fix that without getting too dark in my drawing. thanks for pointing that out (noses, you know...) :)

smitherines: heh, you're absolutely right, thanks! actually working in color with a medium i haven't used for quite a while wasn't that "comfy". but i get what you mean and sometimes i just hesitate too much, especially in busy times... :) thanks for having a look!

ham-e: thanks a lot! :)

[stine]

just working on the hands, trying to get a cleaner look... :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-51.jpg

[Dile_]

Great hand studies Stine!
(Its great to see your sb on the first page every day :D )
Are you doing bridgman now ? anyways you getting bettera anatomy very
quick!!! :}

[stine]

thanks, dile!
yeah, i started studying bridgman a while ago. unfortunately last days have been a little stressy, but i'll surely get into it more often... :)

oh, i fogot: worked on that color pencil portrait. the nose was soooooo wrong, don't know why i didn't see that myself. thanks a lot for pointing that out, nii!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-50-korrektur.jpg

[Latu]

Great to see you corrected your drawing I never have the pateince to do that myself. Still a very nice portrait looks like you may still be working on it if you still comeback to it and find things wrong with it (I always do with mine) don't worry about it, move on to something new. So I'm basically saying keep drawing stuff and stay motivated. Always here to lend a hand,

Nii

[Qxzi]

Hey,

good hand studies, Bridgman yea? I would suggest that you keep on doing them for about a week, then stop copying from ref and draw from your own hands. After about a month or so, try to do it imagery. The colured drawing looks much better now. His nose looks normal ! :D

Main thing is to keep it up!

Qxzi

[Ham-e]

Hi stine, sweet hand studies! and portrait looks even better! is that possible?:yayca:

[stine]

thanks a lot for having a look! :)

nii - thanks! yup, i guess i'll find plenty of stuff that's not working that well when i come back to that drawing. but you're right, i'll leave it alone for now. guess i was so busy getting the colors right that i lost a little track of the resemblance, but it's okay for now... thanks a lot for your help, REALLY appreciated! :)

qxzi - your schedule sounds really good. i just guess i'll need more time to get hands down. especially since we have this thing with the "who's first having 100 pages with hands" thing going... :) thanks a lot!

ham-e - thanks! :) you're still one page of hands ahead of me...

[afgal]

Wow that color portrait is nice!!
~Kerry

[Dile_]

well, its always good to have a schedule, and do not breake the deadline (like I use to do :( )
qxzi's schedule sounds abit longish.. I mean 1 month is alot :D
thats like if I had only hands in my sb... its only been running in 1.5 months now :P

[JoshK]

cool portraits....you should look at John singer sargent's portrait drawing book, it is just amazing. On the last one I think the nose is ok, it's the mouth thats not at the right angle.

[Ashrumm]

The color pencil looks good, I'm really liking how you're trying new things, keep it up I am really impressed with what you have going on here. Wow our sketch group is really great. Keep up the good work. I really am seeing lots of improvement. Great job Stine

[RenegadePogo]

No real comment or anything constructive. Just that I LOVE THIS SKETCH BOOK!!!
Keep it up.

[stine]

afgal - thanks!

dile - thanks for visiting again! looking forward to "project exodus"! i actually think one month is a very short period of time - it's not that i want to practise hand exclusively, but focusing on them for a while. i guess it's gonna take years until i can draw them from imagination truly convincing and i don't think that's a bad thing. guess, i'm a patient person... :)

joshk - thanks for stopping by! the mouth is actually a little "elvis presley-ish" not too regular. unfortunately i don't have the book i worked from anymore, but if you want to have a look at the actual painting, it's david's "portrait of the duke of nantes"...
anyway - if i didn't transport the mouth convincingly then that's my mistake. gonna have a look at that again. thanks for pointing that out!


ashrumm - thanks, man. i also think we all benefit from the sketchgroup big time. great to have you guys! :)

renegadepogo - thanks a lot for the nice words, man. appreciate it!

so just a small update. been busy helping a friend moving to switzerland, packing, painting the apartment, cleaning and stuff. so just another page of hands. :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-52.jpg

[Darktwin]

haha, good to see someone else doing the hand studies, very nice indeed. Keep em coming.

[stine]

heh, here you go, darktwin... :)

sorry guys, gotta hurry.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-53.jpg

[Ham-e]

Hi stine, good work! Damn I missed one day and your all caught up 5-5 . Try to avoid the petting lines your getting, look at how good your page 3 looks with those single stroke confident lines:) I think its so great we're doing these it will be really fun later to look back and see the progression

Keep them coming!:teeth:

[Ashrumm]

Hey Stine I see you're onto hands hardcore, they are looking pretty nice my only crit is yes your strokes could be a bit more confident. But its good because we can all see that you are learning. Maybe try drawing thumbnail size so you can fit a bunch onto a page.

[Dreln]

Woot, more hand studies! I realy like the last one at the bottom of the page with the knuckles, I also like the bottom one in the previous page!

Ham-e uses a perfect term for over doing it on your lines, the shapes tend to lose their...well, shape when it happens to much. Maybe as an experiment after you have feathered out your hand shape lightly, draw in some heavier outlines to pop the hand right out of all the lines, dunno how that will look to you but it might be worth a try.

The portrait is looking great too!

[stine]

thanks a lot, guys!

damn, you're all so perfectly right! i always tend to scribble way too much when i'm a bit in a hurry (which has been the case the last few days). need to concentrate more on the single line, that lack of confidence surely shows. thanks a lot for pointing that out again. sorry, should have focused on that before. i'll try and use more precise lines, i promise! more hands tomorrow, thanks a lot for having a look! :)

[stine]

today i have an "almost) free day so i took my time this morning to draw a little slower, more concentrated page. sorry it took me so long to actually change my lines. guess i thought the better line quality would come along the way, but it's mostly about staying calm and relax while drawing.

so i tried it this morning. not happy with all of the hands, but that's the learning process and i got 94% ahead of me... :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-54.jpg

[ArcoNL]

Hand studies are coming along nicely, line quality is improving. Keep working on it!

Cheers,
Arco

[Ham-e]

Hi stine, Great work...the ones in the bottom right corner really suggest what you were going for...they are calm and relaxed. nice one! can't wait to see more:)...I'm so greedy:tihi:

[Latu]

To help with forming your lines I would suggest this exercise. Draw something anything that's satic not moving like dirty washing (I got lots) or set something up. But when you draw do not I repeat do not look at your paper, slowly draw around and through the forms you see, following contours and such, take your time don't rush concentrate on what your observing. This helps your observational skill and train your hand to better convey the forms your looking at. Hope you haven't heard of this before cause you know, I would suggest this exercise to any one it really helps. Keep going Stine your doing great. Knock that bastard off.

[Ashrumm]

Stine great sketches, I believe you have the right idea, your sketches are sound although somethings are off thats telling me you're learning. I think you are doing great you're not worried about the detail just yet and that is great keep it up i really like your enthusiasm and as well as your energy that is very important because as we all know it takes plenty of time and energy to stay on track. And you are doing fine. I want to see more hands!! don't forget to keep doing a portrait every now and again i love your portratis you capture everything that is important in portraits kind of minimal but its something i'm learning as well. Great job Stine:teeth:

[Ivan.R]

Hey that looks very well. Good speed sketch! It would be nice if you decide to finish it. BTW I forgot to mention how I am impressed by your color pencil portrait! Color pencils are very difficult medium I have tried numerous times to draw with color pencils but I cannot draw anything like that!

[stine]

dunno what happened but somehow my latest post doesn't show up, so i'll write it again... :)

arco - thanks a lot! hands are feeling a little better, but i'm far away from your "comfort zone" with hands and arms... :)

ham-e - thanks a lot, nice of you to have another look!

nii - thanks a lot for the tipp! i tried that exercise and it looked horrible. clear sign that i have to practise that!

ashrumm - here's a quick portrait. wanted to transport the things i learned about the lines into it and try to reduce a little more. but i guess it's a little too rough and reduced... but see for yourself:


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-55.jpg

ivan - thanks a lot for having a look at my sketchbook. glad you like the latest portrait. i guess i'll give it another try and do a less "speedy" version... and thanks for the comment on the color pencils. :)

[Mitchell]

I'm digging the hands, your line quality has gotten better. The way to improve line quality is just to loosen up your whole arm. Sometimes when I draw, and I want it to look perfect, I notice my arm will stiffen up and I start drawing really small strokes and usually they come out crappy, but if I just loosen up and see it from a learning perspective, usuing bigger more fluid strokes, I notice my stuff looks better. Try it out, it really does help the whole hand eye coordination and also time limit. Try it as well with your portraits. Good job!

[Ashrumm]

Skeiff makes some great points on broad strokes and staying loose. He's absolutely right, I need to take the info and loosen up as well. I think this is a very nice portrait. I really like how you simplified the hair but you also chose to shade it in so it reads better. I think you have the right approach, i don't have any more crits its quite simple the more you draw the better you will get. Again, nice portrait can't wait to see what you have for us next.

[bhanu]

Getting confident with your lines .The portrait looks good you have used the lines very wisely .I hope I can do that too.
Keep working.

[stine]

hey guys, small update...


skeiff - thanks for the tipp. funny how feeling comfortable and drawing good relates to each other, isn't it? i'll definetely try to loose up a bit more when drawing. guess i'm so used to only working with the wrist from my tablet/mouse that i have to "learn" drawing with a pencil again...


ashrumm - thanks! started to have my reference not directly in front of me but more far away so i don't get lost in details. guess that helped a bit. but sometimes doing all the tiny things is great, too...


bhanu - thanks, man. appreciated!


so, i'm slowly working my way towards a slightly different style and more confident lines. working with pencil again, althought i have to say that i like my blue and red one's better...
hopefully i'll have a little time tonight to work on another portrait. hope you guys like it, as always any comments welcome!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-56.jpg

[ArcoNL]

Looks like you're really starting to take of man! Only thing to crit is that the darks could be pushed a little more. Keep 'em coming!

Cheers,
Arco

[stine]

thanks, arco! you're right about the values, i'm always shying away from the huge contrast. will work on that! :)

another quick study. lunch break... :)


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-57.jpg

[ArcoNL]

I'm starting to sound a bit like McDonalds here: I'm lovin' it!
(progressing fast)

Cheers,
Arco

[Ham-e]

Oh yes! These last two are great!! I really love how the're starting to pop into the third dimension. :bow:

[Ashrumm]

Wow Stine, i'm really enjoying these a ton keep them coming!! Wow i'm going to get back to portraits great job:tihi:

[stine]

thanks a lot, guys. really happy you like today's drawings. sorry, couldn't finish another one, lot of things to do today and now i need to go to bed *yawn*. thanks for looking, really appreciate it! :) cheers,

stine

[Latu]

Hi Stine liking your last few portraits, is the first of Emily umm something Klimts girlfriend? Well your doing well and I guess you already know you need to venture out of your comfort zone a bit more. I guess drwing things you like
helps alot too. Keep on truckin.

[Mitchell]

Now that's what i'm talking about! The last couple of portraits are looking damn fine. Nice loose lines, proportions looking real good. A good thing to work on are the planes of the face. Whenever you shade you kind of seem to shade whichever direction, but if you think about the planes and which way those planes face, try shading in that direction. The planes of the face are so crucial and I myself have been learning and realizing that as well. Check out how GaBoArTpAgE does it in his first post: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18792
and also check out how Daarken approaches shading in his Life Drawing section:
http://www.daarken.com/Flash2005/main.html
Very very cool techniques. Hoped that helped a bit!

[Aether]

Inspirational stuff, keep it up.

[stine]

nii - thanks! yup, it's her, althought i don't think the resemblance is very obvious, so i'm really surprised you recognized her. guess it's more the hairdo... :)

skeiff - thanks a ton for these links, had a look at them and i find them very helpful. will study them more later, thanks!

aether - thanks for visiting my small book! :)


okay, having another look at leonardo's "grotesques" i thought it was time to get away from reference for a bit and have a little fun. just testing what i can remember and draw from mind... ended up with some kind of caricatures...

here we go, just a little gimmick:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-58.jpg

[Ham-e]

Hi stine I can tell you were having fun, looks great! These colored pencils really seem to free you, the line quality seems to change from when you use graphite.

[Dile_]

wow, alot of action in here ;)
Great updates!
Nice portraits and Hand studies! keep it up ! :)

[stine]

ham-e - thanks! i guess the colored pencils are a bit softer and i can handle them a little bit better... trying to get some prismacolors now... :)

dile - hey, thanks for stopping by!

cleaned my harddrive today and found this little sketch i made several months ago. my very first attempt in some sort of character design. note that i made this long before getting into drawing again, so i had to go with the humor... just thought i'd post it to show some sort of progress...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/have-you-met-bruce.jpg


right now i just try to step back a bit and think about what i'm gonna do next. did some characters as i liked to push face features as far as possible. alsways wanted to make some sketches for oscar wilde's "the remarkable rocket" with all those little firework-characters. so here we go, first bunch...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-59.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-60.jpg

thanks for visiting!

[Latu]

That's cool Stine it helps to just draw cartoony stuff now and then. I think we should just do ref anatomy studies once or twice a week or more if so inclined, as Ash suggested before cause frankly I was struggling to keep up with the reff studies. Way to go I'd like to see more from off the top of your head. Till next time :teeth: .

edit: Oh updated just when I posted did'nt see you there Stine wow you read my mind, nice update.

[Dile_]

You seem to change style everytime you switch pencils :P
well, this 'new' style is alos great, but I like the "realistic" more!

[Ham-e]

Hey stine...really like that first page of characters. your drawing is so rich. Nice work!

[joiton]

Great studies Stine.
I wish I could draw realistic faces with that quality. It's so hard for me to make the proportions right :S
I agree about one of the comments about the contrast. Though I really like the soft shading (one of my favourite comic artist draws really soft).
Other thing is you could pay a little more attention to your shading lines. You are using them only to make values (in some pieces), and lines can help to create volume, and in hair help to define which kind of hair you are drawing.

Hope that helps :)

Keep the cool studies!

[Ashrumm]

Those characatures are awesome i'm glad you're now experimenting with faces great job Stine wow i really like the first guy you did with the elongated head great job I'm liking what i'm seeing here. Very Nice!!

[claudeEGYPT]

Okay, you got me, i was stalking you :p

Man, youve got some good finger and feet sketches.. wow!

Personal question though.. do you think an artist in the photography section could do well in a drawing/sketching/painting section? Or do you think its a talent that should be given to you from God?

[Ivan.R]

Ha ha it is nice that you have drawn some caricatures. I also love to draw caricatures a lot it is a great way to relax.

[stine]

oh, so many replies... thanks a lot! :)

nii - heh, that was synchronal posting...

dile - yeah, i feel more comfortable with the realistic stuff, too. but that's just another reason to practice the cartoony ones...:) glad you're okay. that lamp can surely freak one out...

ham-e - thanks a lot!

joiton - thanks for visiting, man! you're right with my hatching and my lines. need to improve that a lot. trying to show overlapping lines and create volume with that, but it didn't work out the way i wanted it. it's definetely on my agenda. thanks for telling me again! :)

ashrumm - thanks, bud!

claude - hey! nice to see you here and thanks for your comment. as to your question: well, i guess i don't believe in talent that much. more in work, practise, patience and will. and a little ambition can't hurt, either...:) i think you can be talented as hell, but when you don't have the patience to hold on or you don't have the will to start you won't go far. in the end it all comes down to being creative. the rest is only a choice of medium. hmmmm, did that answer your question?!

ivan - thanks! :)

so, i worked a bit on the different characters and gave them some notes t explain the characters. well, it's the first time i'm doing something like that, so it can only get better... hope you like it.



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/charactersheet-rocket.jpg


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/charactersheet-catherinewhe.jpg


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/charactersheet-romancandle.jpg



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/charactersheet-fireballoon.jpg



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/charactersheet-cracker.jpg

[claudeEGYPT]

So much character in these, i feel the personalities conveyed really well in the drawings.
I think your answer did answer a lot! Thank you!

[Infinit]

wow funny idea
I didn´t visit for tooooooooo long^^

[ArcoNL]

Nice work dude!
Great characters....

Cheers,
Arco

[Latu]

I'm liking these alot. I agree with Claude. Your layout is killer you have a good eye for it like on your website. What to say but enjoy what your doing I'm sure you are.

[Ham-e]

Hi stine, these layouts look great! One issue I have with them is the scale of the drawings in relation to the other elements, basically I think the drawings should be bigger and the column of text narrower. Nice work!

[Ashrumm]

I agree with Ham- E I also thing the drawings should be a bit bigger since they are the focal point of the design. But its awesome to actually write a description of the different personality traits of each character that is something we should all do when designing characters. Great Job.

[stine]

thanks a lot for the encouraging words, guys! :)
i'll try and come up with a different page design if i find the time. originally just wanted to add my notes to the page, but then the graphic design bug bit me, i guess...:)
again, thanks. next stop master studies.

[afgal]

Those grotesques are funny and the characters are cool. I'm looking forward to seeing how they play out.
Cheers,
Kerry

[Mitchell]

Those funny faces are nicely done. Good sense of character to each of them. You do well with them colored pencils. More anatomy in the future?

[stine]

afgal - thanks!

skeiff - thanks for having a look. yup, more anatomy in the very near future (see below)... working my way towards the torso. but arms first... thanks for reminding me! :)


edit: wow, page 5...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-61.jpg

[Ivan.R]

It looks nice but you should work more on gradation. Your gradations aren't smooth. Congratulations you have made 5 pages of post keep the good work!

[hurricane]

very nice lines!! you have something that is like a "charge" in your way to handle the pen. I can't explain it better than that i'm gonna enjoy watching your journey!

cheers

[Ham-e]

Wow... beautiful study, I just love the way you draw...I know I keep saying that but I can't help it:) welcome to page 5:teeth:

[Latu]

The direction of your lines (side of pencil tip) suggests you are trying your hand at the hatching rendering technique in a way, good start keep going with that, you've done well to define the mass of that arm. As long as you know what it's supposed to look like, in the end you will have learnt something. Do it again if your not happy or move on. Welcome to the 5th Dungeon ,Level 6 Gladiator: Provocator Stine. Prepare to level up.

[stine]

hey guys!

ivan - thanks for the tip, my hatching is poor, i know... :)

hurricane - wow. that's an honor to have you in my little book. thanks for the encouraging words!

ham-e - thanks for the nice words and of course for visiting that frequently, really nice of you to stop by!

nii - thanks. it's always try and error at first, so i'm just trying to find my way through. thanks! oh god, page 5 and upleveling, that's too much for one day... :)

just some quick arm studies from the masters to get a general feel for the form and male/female arms. and a very rough 10-minutes-portrait for fun.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-62.jpg


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-63.jpg


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/sketchbook/page-64.jpg

[Dile_]

Hey (again) Stine! You doing some improvement.. :)

hm, Im just wanna know how many of those arm is based on reference, or
/and knowledge, cause on the very first ones there is just some muscles
everywere.
those who are in the middle seem abit deforemed, and last ones

also dont seem to be based on anything exept imagination, Im sorry if im
wrong..
You improveing , but keep to lifedrawings / references, to get it right first!

then try it differntly!

Keep it up! your doing well! :)

(sorry if I sounds different with what I use to, but I have seen my self that when I got those "Good" & even "Awsome"
then I wont get back to the paper, if someone tell me "Your not so good at that" or "hm, do some more of this"
Im sure getting back to the paper/ software to complete the request :P even if its not 100% I m just giving it
a try to improve, No one wanna get stuck with those cute "good" you want to have those, you know WOW AWSOME, 5 STARS
Comments, but you dont want em cause of that ppl think your art is "cute") You maybe have another thoughts of this,
but thats my opinion, and thats what makes me motivated to improve! :)

[Ashrumm]

Your master study of the portraits are freakin awesome!! Similiar to what Hurricane has said and i'll say it again your portraits are improving speedily. Your arm studies are a bit morphed in a few of them the hands are too small and i can see you're not comfortable yet due to the repeated marks along the edges of them. Keep doing them i want to see more arm studies keep it up. :tihi: