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beyond_the_forest
March 5th, 2006, 01:52 PM
im putting off working on the priest for while.
the wip that will either have to be finished by monday this week or next monday is a self portrait
im going to be bald, have a tumor on my neck and my guts spilling into my hands.
it's for a class assignment, a tatoo, once it's finished i will simplify it.
used a photo reference
1.5 hours so far.
i think it's a 33 by 14" print..
i may have a celtic cross around my neck
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/beyond_the_forest/tatodel.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/beyond_the_forest/chin_.jpg
JERI
March 5th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I don't know if you are already aware of this but the sizes of the two irises are clearly different.
The shouldes look a tad too narrow and angular. Of course I think it's possible to have an old man who has that kinda shoulders. Can you post your reference pic?
beyond_the_forest
March 5th, 2006, 03:04 PM
dude, people who concentrate too much on realism have emotionally dead works. (in my opinion)
i purposely didn't work hard on the body because the main focus is the face. and i don't want to stick to the reference. but this also isn't a finished work...and i really did rush the body too much, but even if i do work on the body more, it won't be as well done as the face.
thanks for telling me about the irises, i didn't know it was that obvious...
krikkit13
March 5th, 2006, 04:06 PM
There's some really nice rendering in the face, although the narrow shoulders make it look like he's leaning towards the viewer (intentional?). Really nice stuff with the hair.
Geophillyx
March 5th, 2006, 05:32 PM
the nose looks very out of place, because you didnt put as many details on it as you did with other parts, but since its not finished im guessing youre gonna go into that as well, good job so far, keep it up!
beyond_the_forest
March 5th, 2006, 08:45 PM
the nose looks very out of place, because you didnt put as many details on it as you did with other parts, but since its not finished im guessing youre gonna go into that as well, good job so far, keep it up!
im not sure what you mean, theres texture and a bit of colours around the nostril...the line though, i think really needs work, it needs to be have a smoother transition...
what do you think about me adding some large poors on the nose?
i also thought about adding sun spots on his skin, but im really not sure how to do it.. and i may be adding too much detail if i do that.
if any of you gays have textures lying around on your computer for sun spots i'd really like to see them.
Pixeldragoon
March 5th, 2006, 09:21 PM
dude, people who concentrate too much on realism have emotionally dead works. (in my opinion)
i purposely didn't work hard on the body because the main focus is the face. and i don't want to stick to the reference. but this also isn't a finished work...and i really did rush the body too much, but even if i do work on the body more, it won't be as well done as the face.
thanks for telling me about the irises, i didn't know it was that obvious...
No offense, but alot of them don't "concentrate". It just is what happens, and what they prefer.
I like the forehead wrinkles; They really pop. Aside from some visible brushstrokes, it's pretty nifty!
JERI
March 6th, 2006, 01:47 AM
i purposely didn't work hard on the body because the main focus is the face. and i don't want to stick to the reference. but this also isn't a finished work...and i really did rush the body too much, but even if i do work on the body more, it won't be as well done as the face.
It ought to be, you've put in this much effort and details into the face to make it look like this now - why would you think you can't do the same for the body?
I wouldn't want you to go for photo realism of course! Just pointing out that while it's plausible for creepy old man like him to have narrow and angular shoulders like that - it's still quite uncommon. I reckon it's unusual enough to stand out, and since you wanted the focus to be on the face, the shoulders you might wanna adjust.
Just my two cents.
beyond_the_forest
March 6th, 2006, 02:08 AM
i think the reference actually was worse and had a hump back.... well ill play with it in a couple days.
beyond_the_forest
March 6th, 2006, 02:09 AM
i really do need help on the eyebrows though, they need to be bushier, they just seem really immature at this time.
but i know i've asked for help a lot here and i've only every gotten people saying what i should do and not how i should do it...damnit!
Bad_Kat
March 10th, 2006, 12:23 AM
dude, people who concentrate too much on realism have emotionally dead works. (in my opinion)
I completely agree. There is enough realism around us, why should we be forced to translate it to paper?
beyond_the_forest
March 10th, 2006, 11:48 AM
I completely agree. There is enough realism around us, why should we be forced to translate it to paper?
uh....not exactly what i had in mind...since im also a photographer.
my style seems to be to show reality through a specific view point.... i didn't want to show him how he was, but how he seemed to me...
beyond_the_forest
March 10th, 2006, 11:50 AM
today i will be starting a new self portrait, and ill put what i have up in a bit. crits would be great.
beyond_the_forest
March 10th, 2006, 08:55 PM
there its up. go nuts...
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