Sketches & Stuff! Updates daily for a while! :)

[Dile_]

Hey , Check out the newest page for updates!

[Dile_]

UIhh edit**

Photoshop- 25 min
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2325/concept8bz.gif
Art rage..
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2047/redigstuff0ri.jpg

Hi, I wasn't in mode for painting today so I did just made a quick (still W.I.P)
model fo the concept I created yesterday, I hope Im allowed to post 3D ??
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2987/model0wo.jpg
please comment.

[Dile_]

I did some female studies by reference.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/535/nnnude7yo.jpg

[Dile_]

Update*
I did some sillhoutes..
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8054/sillhoutes2he.jpg

[Dile_]

I gotta learn painter better :tihi:
Quick digital sketch
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/3595/untitled34jq.jpg

[Dile_]

Im alone in this thread :/ yet ;)
Did a quick ( 10 min) sketch, its was my birthday yesterday, so I didnt had much time
over for Conceptart.org :( But I got some drawing books (unfortunly in swedish)
and some Derwent sketch graphic pen, so Im pretty happy with it anyways :)
ah, I gotta post some traditional stuff soon
heres a boring sketch I did

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6571/eheh5yx.jpg

[HankTol]

Your stuff looks great. The female studies from reference are the best so far. Try to do some drawing from life if you can, it's the fastest way to improve your skills with the figure.

Happy birthday, btw!

[Kei-th]

Nice SB! I really like your 3d! the females are great also :)

[Dile_]

Thx alot guys, I really appreciate that your are posting in my thread :D
heres some traditional stuff, some old , from februari, maybe from jan.
box city, took forever, or it felt like... so boring.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6540/dsd9lb.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1039/IMG_0213.jpg

Bike Concept
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2398/IMG_0220.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6049/IMG_0217.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9630/IMG_209.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9528/IMG_0216.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3449/IMG_0206.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3293/IMG_0209.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5982/IMG_0211.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4702/IMG_0212.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1296/IMG_212.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2338/IMG_0219.jpg

[NikitaDarkstar]

Thx alot guys, I really appreciate that your are posting in my thread :D
heres some traditional stuff, some old , from februari, maybe from jan.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3449/IMG_0206.jpg


For some reason I like this the best... I can't really make heads or tails of the perspectives going on, but it's more like an optical illusion effect to em rather than something actually beeing wrong with it... it's just one of thoose simple things I can stare at for awhile... I don't know I just like it..

Oh happy birthday by the way!

[Dile_]

hehe, I acctually learned that type of perspective yesterday :D
I did just put a big circle on the canvas, and then decreased the waves,
untill I got this elipse shape, viewed in the sketch :)

[Denysiuk]

Too much Gnomonworkshop tutorials, too less practising I think.
Try to make one thing good, than annother. Not all in one time, ok?
Cheers :P

[Dile_]

where do you see any gnomon stuff in my thread ??
maybe that bike, but notthing else.
btw: try to be more specefic "not all in one time" what do you mean by that ??
if you mean the perspective stuff, why would that be combinated with gnomon ?
all books realated to the basic drawing/painting has the same way.

[Dile_]

painter sketch, 10 minutes..
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5948/set3gg.jpg

[Denysiuk]

here I see the Feng's Zhu tutorial (robots drawing) http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8054/sillhoutes2he.jpg
I mean, that you try very different ways of painting and in none of them you reach a good level... whatever... maybe it's good to practise many styles...

[~Faust~]

Well, don't be discouraged, skill comes with practice and that's with time. Just remember to study every day because 1 day spend without studying is like a week backwards.

I'd like to see some more 3D-work from you, what you did with the concept is amazing!

You have already great sense for perspective and forms in space. Try to put yourself more into portrait and anatomy work though. The neck on that last one drawing is far too thick. You must first understand. To some studies about the neck, the behaviour of the shoulder, hands, skulls, etc a day and you'll quickly improve.

[Dile_]

yeah, thx, I will post some stuff in this evening, and yeah I draw 2 hours everyday at least or more of course...
and den: I didnt followed any fengzhu by doing that, I just was a bit to inspired by Sinix one of the 'better' artists here at ca.org :)

[Dile_]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4861/img02229dj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/144/img02247fj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
hm, i gotta set up a schedule for my drawing or something, I just spend 70% of the time in front of the computer, internet instead of drawing.. it would be way more hours of painting/drawing if I did...

[Denysiuk]

Try harder, draw more from nature... AND look for PROPORTIONS and SHAPES
...those faces are not worth to be shown.
FIRST make a good form, THEN put on the shadows
P.S. maybe draw bigger pictures, it sometimes help (for egzample two faces on a format A4), ok?

[Dile_]

[Self Destructed]





Edit .

[Chichigo]

can we cut the politics guys?? Den, there's brutal honesty but now you've crossed the line to being plain cruel. You've been nitpicking at him all day, and that's undermining what the sketchbook groups all about. We're supposed to SUPPORT each other, not make each other feel like shit. Its alright if you don't feel like giving advice if you don't feel he's worth it, but please no more outright flaming.

And don't you two dare leave the group, either of you.

About the faces, the top ones alright, there's definitetly a form of a face developing there. But for future reference, the side profile is THE hardest side of the face to draw, for beginning practice, start off with 3/4 heads because the view allows you to draw features that don't need to be perfectly symmetrical like in a front profile. The bottom face, far eye wouldn't be seen at all. The eye to the front would be farther back from the nose because of an illusion of shadows. Your eye socket dips in from your nose before protruding again at your cheekbone, take a mirror and look at your own face sometimes, maybe trace your own face over with your finger to remember the forms.

NO MORE ARGUING.

[Chisa]

Heya Dile! I think its pretty impressive that you've made the decision to study anatomy properly at such a young age - when I was 14 I was still copying DBZ pictures >_<

The first pieces you post showed that you have a bit of skill, but trying too much at once - its best to do some basic stuff in pencil/pen/tool of choice before working up to digital colour. Seems like you realised that and have started to focus more on basic anatomy in pencil first, which is definitely a good idea. The torso studies looked like a good start, although it would be better to see them with the other body part attached so you can get the hang of balanced poses. I really liked your Painter sketch in post 14 - the pose looks good, the body is well rounded, although as Faust said the neck seems too thick and the head too small. I'm also not sure whether the person is male or female - the legs and pose suggest femininity for some reason, although the lack of breasts and the face seem to say otherwise.

The first figure in your latest post looks good - balanced and well proportioned , although the second less so - it is at a harder angle though. More figure studies of this kind will definitely help you, as will studying bone structure, muscles etc... we're at about the same place really :) If you're not going by a particular book at the moment, Figure Drawing for What It's Worth (http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis/) is quite good, recommended a lot on these forums, and is conveniently available online XD

The faces are also a good start - they're not perfect, but I'm terrible at faces myself at the moment, so can't critique them too well. Faust seems to have done the most study in that area of our group, so I'm sure he'll have something interesting to say on that :) Are they from a photo reference, from life or from your imagination?

Denysiuk, saying things aren't worthy to be shown really isn't helpful at all. How can anyone improve in these sketchbooks if they don't post anything until they're perfect? Something that's obviously a scribble might not be worth posting, but it looks like Dile put more effort into these than that. You have a bit more skill and experience - so show it with some constructive criticism.

[Dile_]

wow, thx for the link Chisa :)
I will check it out, I think Ive already seen some page on the internet or smth ?!?
and yeah, I will put my soul in every coming picture wich will come up to this thread in the future ;) even if it just is a 5 minute.
thx for the input everyone..

[~Faust~]

I want to post too :)

Actually drawing heads isn't hard, it's like drawing everything else. The problem lies on a neurological level. Our brains are programmed to recognise features in faces very narrowly, there's a huge area for that in the brain. So it's clear that you see flaws in a head very fast. Try to remember the difference between two dog-drawings, if drawed the same race, the difference between two individuals won't be that apparent. Same goes when you look at faces from ethnicities which aren't around your environment. I for one often have difficulties to recognise and separate individuals in chinese kungfu-flicks, they all have the same hair and nearly the same traditional chinese clothing.

So your brain has gained a pretty clear idea of how a face looks like over the years. Unfortunately that won't help you very much, since it has no knowledge about the anatomy of a face, only the features. So when I look at a face-drawing of a beginner or even my own sometimes, I see people not drawing faces, but features of the face. Your eye-studies show me that.

That's also why pofiles are often regarded as hard because you haven't got that many landmarks to work your way into. The features of the skull are actually more simple to draw in profile and the head isn't that complicated. There are just vast areas between the facial features on the one side and the ear/hair on the other side where we don't have instinctual understanding from.

In studies we should gain our own landmarks, programming our brains to accept new ways of seeing people. That's how art is changing your environment and the way you see it (It's the thing I love the most about doing art, actually)

Try faces from people of races that you don't see very often in your place, first! Your brain isn't yet programmed that accurately to recognise them so reprogramming should be much easier.

That's what anatomical studies are about. The same is with hands, btw. We have a vast sensorical idea of hands so if we see a drawing of them, we know exactly if that pose is realistic and possible or not. Unfortunately we have no visual information stored, so the hands we draw without studies from head look pretty much like shit. Visual information has yet to be applied.

Hope that helped :) Cheers

btw: it's "doodles" and not "doddles" if I recall correctly ;)

[Dile_]

damn, r you proffessor or something cool like that ??
I would have got my fingers crashed if I wrote so much :D
and about the eyes, I dont use to draw eyes like that, but I had a new book..
"anatomy for the artist" (Dont remember the name of who wrote it)
and she does like that, so I just had to test it out ;)
thx for that loooooooooong post :)

edit**
daaa.. I downloaded the Andrew Loomis stuff, but, I happend to not have Acrobat reader installed.. so I had to download it too.. :down:
then it asked me for a serial key (wich I thought I didnt have) so I just pushed the "X" and deleted the file... then when I went up to my
room for cleaning up, guess what i found ?? Acrobat reader 6.0 (bought for some year back) so now I can watch the loomis stuff :)
happy ending :)

[Dile_]

well, I showed my brother that I acctually can do some stuff in PS
and this was the cartoon lookish result :)
*Faust, I tried to not think the head as a head, but as a "thing"
like you described*
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/952/smokeing5vc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I have draw alot since the last update, but I dont have my camera, (battery issues)

[Chisa]

Hrmm... not bad, but it does betray the fact that you haven't yet perfected anatomy and values and all that jazz. I'd suggest easing up on the colouring at the moment and sticking to some hardcore anatomy study until you've got the hang of that, although I can definitely understand being tempted to skip ahead and try something for fun. Post your other stuff soon!

[Dile_]

:tihi: well, since that was "a funny cartoon character" then I didnt reallly
thought about the anatomy, I just felt for doing it :)
but thx for your input, and Faust sended me a list for good books, so I will
/hope that i can improve my anatomy pretty soon :)

[Dile_]

update: now I got my camera working , so I post my pictures today :)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4217/img02318fy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5889/img02329vx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7684/img02339yj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
forgot about "2 min doddle" i kept drawing after I had name it... and also forgot to erase it.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6969/img02343mf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8954/img02357vf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/134/img02367bl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
to pity that this one smudged out... how do I protect my pencil sketches from that ??
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2876/img02373yd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6470/img02396wg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8162/img02403jm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dile_]

the DSG 1036 :D
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5382/dsgfast6ns.jpg

[Recursive_End]

Good work!
But it would you would get much better if you do studies. Bones, muscles, shading, etc.
These pics look good though. Try and be more clean with your lines. Be as exact as possible with what you want.
Anyway, all of this will come with practice, so dont stop !!
:)

[Chisa]

Even funny cartoon characters look better if they have their basis in reality :)

Very cool robots, the attention to detail on them is fantastic. Your people are pretty good too, although more practice definitely helps.

On your last coloured pic: her position is very strange, kind of straight but with her knees benth out at odd angles. It's possisible to get into that position but hard to stay that way, especially in a moving vehicle like the one you have her in. Although now that I think of it, maybe she's a robot... she's human enough on top to still make it look strange though. Also, aside from the bra there isn't much to suggest that it is a woman - a smaller waist might help there? The neck is also a little thick and long. I do really like the feeling of movement you've got in it though.

[Dile_]

hehe... she have no knees... :D
she is cutted of in the middle, and the rest is a Robot thingy ;)
but I take your advice absolutly :) I hope you dont feel like
im thinking about your advice as nothing, cause all of what you have said in my thread I really take into my head :)
Well, I post ups some anatomy stuff when i got home tonight..
Thx for your replys :)
Keep posting!

[Dile_]

First off, my speed paint wich im extremly happy about how it turned out :)
I know it can always be alot better
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/templeguard.jpg

I post some stuff soon, very soon, when My camera have load.

[Dile_]

Now, both my scanner and camera works, but I prefer the camera since its alot faster.
I tried to keep em 800x600 since its a big update...
hope my sketchbook isnt boring.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0257.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0258.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0256.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0255.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0254.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0253.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0252.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0251.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0250.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0249.jpg


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0248.jpg
Eyes
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0245.jpg

[Dile_]

I did this one at Youdraw.com
http://www.youdraw.com/drawpad/pics/386/386827.gif

and this one over at Artgrounds.com (Since the sketch program doesnt work here at Conceptart.org :( )

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Untitled-4.jpg

[Dile_]

Edit* Shortened my loooooong thread down abit.. tell me if I should do that more!

Most recent from Artground.com

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/DragOrcMachine.jpg

[Recursive_End]

hehe good stuff going on here. About long threads, well, no i think its a good idea. It shows us that you do draw alot :)
Keep going !!

[LukeTores]

Cool stuff, man. I agree with most of the comments made.

I'd like to see some finished, tight work. Although it's good, everything you've posted is very sketchy. I'm just guessing, and might be totally wrong, but it seems like you sketch fast any don't often get into fine detail. Maybe this is what Denysiuk was trying to say. It'll probably help you out to draw very precisely from reference, trying to make what you draw as close to the reference in form and value as possible.

[~Faust~]

Yom get in the details man! :) I'd recomment you usign some harder brushes, too. Your painting will be much more readable that way.

[Nokill]

the scetches are getting some better only the coloring can use a lot of work ;)

[Dile_]

Recursive_End: Thx man :D
I gotta give something finished a go then :D
Luke: yeah I draw fast , but alot.. im going for the shapes and proporations
like Densysiuk said.
Faust: I dont know if youve seen Sketcher: but
its very hard to get a big brush in there without Pressuring the tablet pen all
the way down....

[Dile_]

I gotta learn lighting better.. checked the Prometheus| tutorial
about lighting and shapes..
but I didnt had so much time...
But I did this one.. not so much based on the descriptions of Prom
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Ninjaclan.jpg

[Dile_]

digital!!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/testArtweaver.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/SpeedpaintSpeakingChair.jpg
Did this one as a collab with another guy :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/SketchMakiCollab.jpg

[~Faust~]

hahahaha you got owned ! Very nice :)

[Chichigo]

steady improvement, very good. Man with sword is very dramatic, and he's standing underneath the one ring to rule them all, yes!. ;p

[Threshold]

Dile, your anatomy practice pages were looking really good. I do a lot of tech stuff, but what really does wonders for me is practicing life drawings and anatomy.

[Dile_]

hey Thx everyone !!
I love when you guys post in my sketchbook :D
Chichigo : its very nice to hear that !
Threshodl: more , alot more anatomy then :D

[Dile_]

well, Im not so good drawing after reference...
but well, some time gotta be the first :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/tam.jpg

[~Faust~]

It's actually not bad! I'd suggest you use the method described in the PS-Painting thread for starters (Goey herey (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47859)) but it seems you are already using some similar technique. Do some more! Train your eye! You'll rock in no time! :)

[Bloodsbane]

Dude! Looks like you're improving at a tremendous rate!
The speedpaint with the guy on the stairs is very nice. Whatever you're doing is working, keep it up :)

[Dile_]

its really nice to hear that you think im improving :)
well. thats my goal, to be better and better :D
Faust: Ive already seen that link, and I have toke some advice from there
+ the prometheus tutorial about lighting :)
Bloodsbane: hey thx!
I will!

Did this one when I woke up this morning :)
(it feels easier for me to start drawing on the white screen now, if i just compare with some week ago !! )
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ref.jpg

[Dile_]

more stuff by ref.. :D
(I know the phone looks ugly but it was a quick since my school buss will
go off in less then 20 min, and now i gotta hurry since its 2,6 kilometres out to the buss, and I have no bike !!)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ref2.jpg

[Denysiuk]

Ok yeah, you are getting MUCH better... keep on drawing from nature, it seems to help you... maybe it's YOUR part of art :)

[Dile_]

woow :D
Denysiuk think im getting better ;)
then I guess its true!
but well drawing from life and reference isnt really a category
its a studie like every else studies...
its a way to get better, get colors and shapes..
not something you work with ;)
so useing a ref is only a way to help me understand light and
shapes, proporations etc.. ya you know :D
well I gotta draw something wich isnt on my desk now :D
so I come up later with some updates :D

[Dile_]

well heres a speed paint before bed..
im tired :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Untitled-2.jpg

[Denysiuk]

Just, just... just don't do that :) stay where you are! make some bigger steps in drawing realistic things and then try to do something by yourself, ok? Please?
Edit: to late... :) but its better than older ones...

[JeroArt]

Like the last one, cool to see u improve!
Downloaded that loomis stuff too, some handy stuff.
Realy have to learn anatomy myself soon.

Keep it up!

[Seer]

Had to stop by after your kind words. :)

I haven't got anything in particular to comment on but I just wanted to tell you to keep up what you're doing, particularly drawing/painting from reference! Maybe you should also stop worrying about backgrounds and concentrate on the figures for now. :wink:

Stay well!

[NikitaDarkstar]

The only thing I don't like about that last one is the brush you used in the background, the leafbrush don't really feel right with a robot you know? the bot looks cool though could probably be really cool if you ever decided to make it less sketchy you know?

[Rolo]

nice dile!! real realistic..(gadgets)
!! keep good work!
rolo

[Dile_]

hey thx, that madee my second side in the sketchbook :P
denysuik: haha ;)
Jero: I already have em :P + alot of other anatomy books
Seer:thx :)
NikitaDarkstar: yeah i know i fudged the last one up with too big
brush and a very bad background (did the background first)

[Dile_]

the train is abit refed :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Nice.jpg

[Denysiuk]

make smoother surfaces (more brush strokes?), some bigger contrasts, more sharpen edges (everything is too...too... round...)
But nice try... and grasssssss :)

[~Faust~]

Well, perspective and motion are nice, the smoke doesn't look believable, though. Don't be ashamed of using refs, in fact, they are the ONLY way to learn. How else would you know how to draw a train if you have never seen one?

Btw, congratulations to your 2nd page! :) I was ver yproud when I was where you was, comment-wise! ;)

[Dile_]

well I guess Denysiuk is right this time, I just had to rush through it..
(my mum were yelling at me in the background, so I really rushed it , sorry bout that)
but heres a new pic, for a project.
I thought about what you said about the brush also.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Untitled-1.jpg

[Denysiuk]

Wow. I've just realised second time that you are 14 year old :xpld: :dead: :bashful:
You are making steps... keep on :)
P.S. ...Refs,Refs,Refs...

[Dile_]

I guess thats good XD
heres one by ref..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/AirplaneWW2.jpg
and... I figured out that Conceptart.org have a pretty good reference
library :D I thought it was only alot nude photos in there :D

[glikster]

Great and steady improvement!

Thanks for stopping by my sb...

Drawing from ref is helping you and a great way to learn, but don't neglect drawing from the world around you. Make sure to draw things in front of you also (like you were doing before... I know the subject matter is ususally boring, but stick with it..) I feel very comfortable drawing using a pic ref, but trying to draw from life in front of me and I don't know what to do...that's what I'm working on now...

[Dile_]

hey thx :D your sb is great dude!
its very nice to hear that im improveing :)
and thx for your words!
btw: Im drawing a bike helmet right now.. I try to post it later.

[Sepulverture]

You seem to be making some good progress, just keep at it! It would be interesting to see some more of those anatomy studies, and some more vehicles.

[Dile_]

oh yeah, Im doing anatomy studies in my "non-digital" sketchbook
so well, I try to post it as soon as I fix my scanner.. its so frusterating with
the camera, since I have to switch battery every single time :argh:

[Denysiuk]

And we have one of the most activ members of our SSG group :vodkamachine:
My advice: Make longer lines not so short ones! Put some bounced light under the plane (this black space looks not so good)
P.S. thanks for ref. :)

[Dile_]

oh I see what you mean denysiuk :D
I will read the prometheus tutorial over some time again..
One last before midnight :D
well.. I tried to put ALOT of contrast into it..
went pretty quick.. I guess around 10-15 minutes...
but em.. I have headache.. and I had it from this morning so I cant
be to creative today :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Untitledfddf-4.jpg

[Dile_]

da....
one more...
about 25 min...
i know those 2 last isnt to good.. just feeling for posting em :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/67f0365c.jpg

[Cold]

i think your skills are improving quite fast, without u noticing it.
Best thing to do is to train yourself not to rush it and take time on detail...

its details that creates an image!

[~Faust~]

Dang, I can't possibly keep up with your updates, man! You're improving, indeed, just don't forget to toss in some lifedrawing inbetween! :)

[Dile_]

Cold: Yeah, that what they tell me :D I gotta try spend some more time, even those extra minutes on my sketches..
thx for you input!
Faust: :D
well heres some traditional stuff i did over the night..
some also from yesterday.
( :( I have forgotten my second sketchbook in school... )
I tried to decreased the size of the images. so the thread wont take so long
to load :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0274.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0277.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0270.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0273.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0272.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0269.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0268.jpg

[Dwezz]

You're really improving fast!
Keep up the pace!

[Dile_]

hey thx for your input man :D
I will try to update soon.. !

[Dile_]

yo, heres
an 15 min sketch i did on OC with Rolo (or he was mostly watching and OpenCanvas was bugy)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/DaChopterSession.jpg

[~Faust~]

Oi, nice heli, is it from ref?

[Dile_]

yeah it is :/
well mostly from ref... :)

[Dile_]

more from OC Me and Rolo again
(its only my stuff i view)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Girlinbik.jpg

[Rolo]

nicely done, although I must say I was the one that made you draw a female...:P :D soooooo wow I will just say wow to your awsome aptitude (talent)
rolo

[Chisa]

Eep, its been a while since I last commented, I'm so sorry! Glad to see you've been working hard ^_^

The figures here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=781826&postcount=35) are great, that's the kind of thing that really helps. You've got some great poses going on, but watch your proportions, especially the legs. Your lines are a bit sketchy, although I can understand it being hard to do clean, confident lines with a pen. Good work on the muscle studies, and the hands are looking really good too.

Your digital works here (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=782757&postcount=37) all look very fuzzy. Try putting in hard details, otherwise they end up looking very out of focus. Your shading also seems to suggest you need some work on simpler shapes first to get how shadows and things work (haha same here!).

The background of this one (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/testArtweaver.jpg) is intriguing. I'm a bit confused about what the figure is doing with his hands though.

Woo okay, your digital works and shading get really really good after this point! The headphones stood out for me, maybe because of the shadow or something. Very impressive, you're obviously working really hard! Still, it would be nice if you threw in a few traditional pieces and some more anatomy studies in there somewhere. Keep it up!

EDIT: OMG you have a second page O_o I haven't looked at it yet, I'll post on that in a sec!

[Dile_]

hey thx chisa :D
yeah, you share my opinion about the digital work.. I really think
i getting better since i started those studies :D
heres a little quick thing
for a project. (it isnt the final one since the pose is boring and the highlight is so dull and ugly..)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Blacknight.jpg
id better post this one 2, 5 minutes of refineing...
Photobucket seem to go fine today :D
(I will change the weapon as soon as i find some cool reference.)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Blackni3ht.jpg

[Chisa]

Continued comments for page two that I missed!

The train looks excellent! The background could use a little more work, but you seem to have moved away from the fuzzy thing and getting more solid shapes in there. Woohoo!

The cave thing is cool, what kind of project is it for? You've got some nice shading going on, although some of the squiggly bits take away from the effect a bit.

The plane looks very plane-like... don't have much to say there, but the shading is looking good. Nothing wrong with naked people references though!

I like the greens in this one (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/67f0365c.jpg), although the person's arms look a bit off.

Yay for more traditional work (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=794149&postcount=78)! I'm feeling that your heads are a little on the small side though. Some human referenced things would be good :)

The second woman on your second-to-latest post is looking a bit masculine. I'd say her head is too small (its actually about the same size as her breasts O_o), she needs more of a neck, and for some reason the positioning of her right arm looks off. Sexy legs though!

Your latest ones maybe need some more shading? With the amount of black its looking very flat. It's also difficult to see the direction of the light source.

Phew! I'm going to try and comment every time you update now, so I don't have to rush them all at once!

[Dile_]

hey thx for you verrryyyyy looooonnnnggg comments :D
well the project is for an HL2 mod.
(da grey dude in green enviro I didnt thought about his arm till now, it impossible to bend that long backward.. or evven if it is impossible it would hurt)
And the girls head, I thought i wrote that i thought it was alittle to small..
but nvrm :D I ll try to draw alot more over next coming weekend (when Im on a ski trip ) and i have bought some anatomy books from a swedish book website :P I think i'll recive em at thuesday.. hoppefully (bridgeman)
i really gotta go for the anatomy...
well, about my new one, I thinking about re do the whole character
since (as I already said) messed up the lights.. it just look.. dull.
thx again for posting Chisa :D

[Dile_]

20 min sketch..
used reference for the outlines.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Bike.jpg

[Chichigo]

Your best work yet. WHOO!!

longer reply later.

[Denysiuk]

Hey hold a minute... U did it yourself? Can't belive... how are you using this reference? as backgroun or you are redrawing it from picture that is near your work?
Make shadows with form (look at my advice for 'Chisa')

[Dile_]

I searched for Motorbike or something and found this one,
then I downloaded it to my Desktop.. then I took alook at it while I drawed it.
you know, Look at it, draw a bit of the outlines, screw it up, look again and
draw abit.. and so on ;)
btw: Im thinking of modelling it, i think the name is kawazaki Ninja.

[Chisa]

Oh wow, you did a ref pic good enough to make Denysiuk think it was a paintover XD Well done! It looks fantastic, seems you don't have any trouble at all get proportions and perspective and things right when working from a reference (like I do >.<).

No probs on the comments! I figure I owed ya for missing so many.

[Dile_]

hehe, but I cant see what is so good with this newest one :P
but thx for your comments :D
I be happier and happier fore every comment :)!

[Dile_]

wee :D Updated my avatar..
and did this one
pretty happy about what have already turned out (W.I.P so I would love some feedback)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/danewone.jpg

[~Faust~]

You asked for crits and crits you shall get :)

Well, I don't think it's that good, honestly. First of all, what you did was a character with an environment in it. That is an insanely complex task if you ask me, I for one, would not try that yet.

Samurai-Guy: First of all you have tremendous problems with the facial anatomy here. His head has some kind of an oval shape which is notreadable as human. Plus, the helmet is placed as if the headshape was even more elipse than it is now. Look at skulls for that one.
Aside from the fact that the facial features are placed quite randomly, they lack any kind of readable emotion. You should do portraits for that one.
The armor doesn't look like a good armor. Its overal design isn't very nice and I can't read it very good, again. Do some armor studies for that one and especially try to make distinguishable textures such as leather, cloth and whatnot.
Also, the pose is very stiff.

Horse: No need to say much about that one. The animal overal isn't very nicely rendered and the heads doesn't fit a horse-head. It's more a donkey. Do some research on that one before you draw those animals.

background:
Well, I'd say it's a forest, judgin from the green and brown blobs in the background. Again, a real forest doesn't look like that. The light doesn't have a good direction and overal there's so much wrong with it, that I don't know where to begin, but I can show you what a believable forest looks like: Same theme, Pro execution (http://www.paperblue.net/bbs/data/paint_com/1141020285/Alexander_elephant.jpg)

So, b4 beginning on something like this, I would plead some research on basic understanding of Facial anatomy, overal anatomy, dynamic poses, ancient japanese armory, animal anatomy (especially horses) and organic environments, namely forests.

You see, research is EVERYTHING and don't say that it doesn't count here because you didn't mean to do a finished painting. The link I posted is a speedpainting either but it covers ALL the basics and thus looks fabulous. I hope you take that as an advice to work on your weak spots, because that's what this whole process is about, working on your weaker spots. Everything else is pooping in buckets to make money with it.

crit end.

[Dile_]

daaa....
killed... ;)
more studies then :D
well, what can i say, I take your advice absolutly, but I will
finish it, and I still want feedback on the pic, right! ?!

[~Faust~]

np :)

[Chisa]

Nice new avatar, I like the font XD

For your latest pic, the guy looks like he's standing in front of a painted backrdrop, partially because of the big difference in detail between him and the background, and also because of the differences in light source. I don't know much about environments, but I've always been under the impression that saturation, detail and lightness fades as you move towards the horizon, but you have it the other way around with the darker areas towards the front getting lighter towards the back.

Faust has already mentioned most things I can think of about the guy... his face is a strange tone though, making him look like he's made of wood or brass. His position also isn't really consistent with the way the horse is facing.

[~Faust~]

I've always been under the impression that saturation, detail and lightness fades as you move towards the horizon, but you have it the other way around with the darker areas towards the front getting lighter towards the back.

That's only partial true. It's what a mapper calles the "distance-fog" effect, it has to have an atmosphere and enough space to let a mist build up. In dense forests, you can hardly see more than some hundreds of meters so there's likely to be no distance-fog. In heavy rainforests, however, with the rain, you get a thicker atmosphere and thus need less space for the fog to build up. It's kinda hard to implement, though.

The other part where you don't have distance-fog (I think it's called Air-perspective, but I don't know) is in environments that contain no atmosphere, like in Space or on a planet without atmosphere. There you have to use other tricks to give the impression of depth.

[Chichigo]

oh my god, i've missed so many pictures on the second page, i guess the subscription service on CA is a litttle buggy. Hasn't been telling me about all the new updates. I agree with everyone else, you've improved so much since the beginning. :yayca: Think you're ready to try a "finished" piece yet?? Not an environmental maybe, but try one with some type of design background. We can critique your WIP as you go along.

These (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Blackni3ht.jpg) armoured guys you draw, you have a ton of them on the first page, they always bother me because of the harsh white highlights (ie, left leg) Dull them down, use your extremely highlights more carefully. Watch your light source, make a little arrow about which direction its coming from to remind yourself or something.

Faust and chisa already killed the samurai man, so i'll leave that. Keep trying.

[bhanu]

Not bad
Not bad at all for a 14 years old.
I can see you improving.
Keep it up.

[Dile_]

chisa, yeah you have an very important point there!
Faust: You also have a very GOOD point there! XD
Chichigo: hehe, yeah I hope to do alot more improvements here.
and thx for your input :tihi:
Bhanu: nice to hear!
and thx for dropping by.
(I gotta draw now. )
Edit**
Chichigo, I think i know what im doing SOO much wrong with those black ones..
especially bout the highlight.

[Dile_]

well, here chichigo: this is what I think ive done wrong whole time..
first of, I used 100% white highlighs (and after watching some B&W work over here at CA.org, I see that almost noone of them uses 100& white highlighs)
and those who used 100% white highlighs had (as dentsuik said)
made a better shape by useing 50% grey and so on...
well, I tried to skip the 100& white, and did this one.
well its a quicky 15 minutes, but I also figured out that I can get pretty nice brushes by turning the Smooth up and down, and also the Flow..
result:
(this is an experiment)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/demon.jpg

[Dile_]

one more with the sam theme, ( but i did used 100% white :dad: )
I know it isnt that good, but Its a quicky before bed :x
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/handbw.jpg

[Nokill]

try to stick some more work in it and look how that goe's and look carefully at how the lights fall on something it makes all the difrence in black and white paintings

ps can you come online or have you made your 3d max work already :P

[Wolfbane]

Sup Dile, uv posted at my threads so i just came by to say hey. Nice progress dude, personaly like the plane :) keep it up!

[bhanu]

Your highlight art is looking good,but also work with pencils and keep practicing.
Keep it up.

[Dile_]

wee, been gone to long now :P (or , ehm.... 4 days... :( )
(I will post alot more later, but I have to Photo, or scan it later.)
heres a speedie, 20 min.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ddeeerrr.jpg

[Dile_]

had some fun in oc today :)
heres the result :P
(tell me if the pics is to big!)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Session.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/session2.jpg

[~Faust~]

No it's not too big! It's great!

[Dile_]

Hey thx faust :)
heres some from tonight, well one of them is a day older.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0348.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0349.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0346.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0345.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0343.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0351.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0347.jpg

[Dile_]

weeehooo, 45 minutes (I took the time)
Scanned it in and drawed over the orignal sketch.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/space2.jpg

[Wolfbane]

awesome enviorments dude, i cant handle enviorments that well :S love the platoue sketch! keep it up dude :)

[Dile_]

hey thx. I appreciate everyword you say WolfBane!!
and.... JEOW! Ive been member of CA.org for 1 month and 1 day,
and this sketchbook ahave been active in exactly 1 month !
heres the sketch of the space ship if anybody cares.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/orig.jpg

and a quick sketch while listen to music :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0352.jpg

[Dile_]

played with values on this one, Im tired, and I gotta do some other work now :(
I wanna draw...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/refereree.jpg

[rob-ot]

Nice SB! I really liked the last line drawing of the ship!

[Dile_]

:) thx alot rob-ot, and yeah I were pretty happy with that to, I had never ever used
one of those pens before, but I did like em :P

[Darktwin]

Nice work and progression with the tablet, really liking what I'm seeing. keep em coming. Your value study I would push a tad bit more, your digi skills are definitly improving.

[Dile_]

Hey thx for ur input darktwin! its nice to hear from someone alot better than I am my self!
heres some new studd I did at the buss (or I had about 10 - 15 minutes)
so I hurried, and happend to fill almost 3 pages (almost,almost 3 pages)
but Im just showing those 2 best ones... why I not display all 3 of em is because
the first one was very very shaky, and most doddlings :(
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0358.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0357.jpg

[Dile_]

ehhhh?? were did my post go=?
edit***** WOW, ANOTHER PAGE :)*******

[Dile_]

20 min, I just liked it, I know the perspective isnt that good at the roof, but I like it :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/car.jpg

[Wolfbane]

nice sketches above :), i can c great progress when it comes to difrent poses and stances, keep working on em and keep it up:)

PS: Please don't leave my thread ;)

[Dile_]

:)
I wont leave your thread, its awsome!
heres a speedie, I havent use any other colors than black and white on this one
I started out with 40% black, then I used the color picker in PScs2
Im just trying to find faster techniques to draw/paint
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Ghost.jpghttp://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/coloured.jpg

[Dile_]

Posted those two lastones in the SP thread, hope it wont be a problem with that ?
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/speedie.jpg

Am I going to be alone in this thread forever ?? :D

[Wolfbane]

i really like ur latest work, can c that u are improving a lot with the digital, when i get my mac and my own ps ( couple of days now :) ) then il do some practice with the digital too, at the time im mostly into anatomy studies and unserious doodles. anyways keep em coming dude =)

[Dile_]

hey , were In norway you live ?
and btw do
you have a tablet WolfBane? (looking for ward to see your drawing skills in digital)
coolio :P
heres a new spaceship from behind, I did..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Spaceshiosss2.jpg

[Wolfbane]

yeah i got a tablet, well, my dad got a tablet, im drawing at his comp when im drawing in digital, and im living in Stavanger wich is south west :)

[Dile_]

(nice I saw ur digital in your sketchbook, they look nice :P )
here is some sketches / doddles before bed :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/sketches.jpg
Btw: I have set up a new goal for next week, (since Im free completly free next week :) )
and the goal will be to draw 60+ pages (in my "real" sketchbook of coures)

[Darktwin]

good progression with the tablet, I like the reflection on the car and the concept of the character below, I'm really liking your dedication. Don't stop, your improving. Also, I like that your pushing yourself for next week, 60+ pages is a lot espescially if you have other obligations for the week. maybe it would be better if you made your goal based on time, and not on the quantity of pages. Either way its really awesome that your pushing yourself. Keep em coming Dile,

[Dile_]

yeah. but 60+ pages is about 7-9 pages per day,
and my normal is about 4-5 pages per day, so the difference isnt that much.
the only difference would be that i will post every one of those 60+ pages here
on Conceptart.org :)

[Dile_]

heres a lighting studie, by ref :P (or its in my house)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Studei.jpg

[Darktwin]

cool quick sketch, I only wish there was alittle more contrast with the lighting. You make a valid point about drawing quick studies, but also its good for you to do longer studies aswell. Just to mix it up abit, longer and shot studies you know. my 2 cents,

darktwin out

[Dile_]

heres my 8 first :P
1:st
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0374.jpg
2:nd
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0375.jpg
3:rd
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/9fe3b5f2.jpg
4:th
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0368.jpg
5...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0369.jpg
6...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0370.jpg
7..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0373.jpg
8..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0372.jpg

[Dile_]

One more, spended alot more time on this one ! :)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0377.jpg

[Chisa]

Oooh I really like the guy in armour in the last one! The detail is pretty cool. I'm also really like the sword here (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/speedie.jpg) - the texture, lighting and the way its reflecting makes it very believable as smooth metal.

Careful with your proportions though, especially with the legs and the size of the head.

Congrats on making it to 3 pages so quickly, and good luck on your 60 page quest!

[Dile_]

hey ;) thx Chisa
ehm, that cause Im drawing alot ;)
I will have 10 pages in no time (with alittle help from you guys :D )
In fact after sitting down in 2 hours yesterday drawing , doddling and painting
I realise that 60 pages isnt that much..
I have done another 12 pages today, Im going to post em tonight after installing my scanner (I think I get more of my values registred with the scanner)
and untill that I think i can draw like 5 pages more...
so 9+ 12 + 5 = 26 thats like the half "assignment" in 2 days...

[GentleFood3]

I really dig the armor detail. Perhaps you'd like to give your tablet a workout and paint it?

I guess I missed it, but what kind of tablet are you using?

[Dile_]

Hey thx :P I use Intuos 3 a4, and Graphire 3 a5 on laptop..
btw: welcome to Ca.org :D

**heres my first attempt in Zbrush**
So please dont kill me this time :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Zbrushfirstattempt.jpg

Edit**
heres a clay render inside 3ds, this Zbrush tool is just amazing!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/kindacooltoolZbrushinside.jpg

[Dile_]

heres another Zbrush thingy :P
hope its not to boring watching :)
(Second Zbrush thing EVER!!)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/zBRush2tes.jpg

[Matt Smith]

Alot of sketches in here. What I would like to see is more anatomy studies. I noticed your skulls, I would like to see some longer/harder studies with understanding of the planes and structures. I think the character you posted today is looking pretty interesting. For your z brush stuff, it would be cool to see a figure modelled, that would give you alot to think about for anatomy and forms which would help out for your drawings. I noticed the z brush hand, even though its not complete, I would like to see it done more and when you do it, study your own hand, take your other finger and try to feel out the forms of the hand. I hope that helps.

[Lewis]

That first Zbrush attempt (i really dont know what Zbrush is :x 3D program or somthing?) looks pretty cool actually!
I agree on Matt Smith, but i do like ur characters aswell and i really think you shouldnt leave your imagination behind and only do anatomystudies.
Either way keep it up,

Lewis

[Dile_]

Matt Smith: Thx for your comments, and I guess it could be kinda fun
to do a 3D/Zbrush character (but hey, I have only used zbrush 2 times :P)
It was more a kinda test I did yesterday,
and about Anatomy studies, I try to put alot of it into my 60 pics quest :)
(wich IM going to post as soon as Im home)
Lewis: I dont thing Matt Smiths purpose was that i would only do Anatomy for the rest of my life ;) so of coures I will do characters , space ships, other studies as well :D

[Dile_]

heres one last Zbrush before I will post some of my 1-60 pics...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/head.jpg

[xoet]

from my perspective perspective is a point of view but the human has two visual points of view the they have to make sense of so as you create an image and alter the camera's perspective by what is eye movement and head movement the piece becomes your piece and not an exact cope of what is one perspective teck 3 point perspective is done by creating three vanishing points but really there are an infinite number of vanishing points in all directions that need to be considered I say this because you mentioned you perspective was off indeed you perspective was what it was and that made the car unique

[Dile_]

wwwooow :D you seem to have read my thread :D
but the perspecive was kinda odd anyways.. like if the
roof had an own Vanishing point and the rest of the car had another.

[kais]

Hey Dile, that's some nice stuff you have here, good job. All these things about sketchbooks makes me want to make one but I'm too hipnotized by video games...I need to snap out of it :\
I see you also have to improve anatomy, huh? well, you're not alone, if that makes you feel better :D
Reading you sketchbook, I saw you talked about assignement and things like that. You take art classes? or you're in an art school maybe?- which would be very great for your age:)
anyway, good job, I personnaly like the helicopter you made on page 2. even if it is from ref, you made it really nicely I think.

[Erilaz]

Hey, nice book Dile!
I just wanted to ask how long it takes you per sketch. I'm getting the feeling you rush your pencil studies a little bit (since i'm very guilty of it myself!).:teeth:

I like that fact that you're filling the pages more and more. Great dedication!

[Dile_]

Well. I spended some more time on those last 1-60 pages...
but most doddles take about 10 seconds - 1 min.. and if I choose to detail them I can spend up to 5- 10 minutes.. this last Traditionaly piece took me around 20 minutes to fill the paper :D

[Erilaz]

Well. I spended some more time on those last 1-60 pages...
but most doddles take about 10 seconds - 1 min.. and if I choose to detail them I can spend up to 5- 10 minutes.. this last Traditionaly piece took me around 20 minutes to fill the paper :D

Cool, just checking. I like that you're varying the time on them! It's good practice! (and something I need to do more myself!!!) :teeth:
Your digital pieces are getting stronger all the time. :yayca:

[Dile_]

well heres some of the continueing part of 1-60
not all of those I have drawed, cause my camera runned out of battery and I kinda hurried, so some of the were blurry so I sorted em out, post em in next round :D
heres those 7 who didnt came out blurry!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0391.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0381.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0382.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0383.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0387.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0388.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/IMG_0390.jpg

(I have 29 now :D and online i have 16 I try to post rest of em when I come home tonight, or in the morning!)

[Cup of Joe]

Hey Dile! Cool stuff. In the Zbrush hand, I noticed the thumb is a little far up. Look at your own hand to see how it connects to the wrist. Keep those studies up and good luck!

Edit- Woah, you updated while I was typing. That last update looks good! Your anatomy is definately improving. Keep it up!

[Dile_]

Cup of joe : Yeah I see, since that was the 2:nd thing i did in Zbrush I didnt had
100% of controll.. ;) but thx for adviceing!

Kais:I missed your post :S It have to be something with the updates to do.. I gotta press F5 twice next time :P
About assignment: I wrote "assignment" like with two of those *"* so I didnt really meant assignment.. but like little self competition :P

[stine]

hi! thanks for stopping by in my book. nice progress you show here, especially the anatomy is coming along, last post looks really good. and the zbrush arm is impressive!

[Dile_]

I kinda draw by Topic on those last ones :D

hers 3 more.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0394.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0393.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0392.jpg

[xoet]

once back in the early ninties around 91 i did a series of can opener studies sorta like the next step after soup cans it is things like that that will improve your art i know it improved mine I like the glasses you did

[Dile_]

I wasn't born when you did that serie :P
But thx, I guess

[Dile_]

Speedpaint B&W
Alien Police, 10 - 15 minutes
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/AlienPolizei.jpg

[Rolo]

hey dile its me rolo! Long time since I have commented but here is wat i got to say. Number 1 it appears your having trouble with hands!!! try this http://www.geocities.com/draw_anime/tuhands.html it'll probably help ya!!
Number2 My problem is having heads to big urs is making em small!!! work on that!! with the link of hands thing i think there is more cool stuff in there of how to draw-- (feet too) (anybody feel free to check out the link yourselves)
Rolo

[Darktwin]

Oh man, I really like this last one, great speed painting, really awesome improvements all around, also its really cool that your jumping into zbrush. Keep drawing and that will only help your zbrush skills flurish. Keep up the good work

[Dile_]

Rolo: Thx for trying to help, but I think i have tons of other anatomy books
that I think are better than those Manga/anime tutorials. (nothing wrong with manga, but I try to learn the way the old masters did, or those who are Pro!
Hogarth, Bridgeman, you name it, not some random artist who have put an
tutorial tuturial togehter in 10 minutes..)

Darktwin: Thx I kindaa messed the layers up, so I had to copy the backbackground, erease the white bg around it, then do another background.
so i really will think about to set all stuff in different layers later :P

[Dile_]

Heres some digital figures :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Sketches.jpg

[Recursive_End]

Hey Dile !
You got some cool stuff going one here.
I think you should put some more attention to the anatomy under the muscles. Make your lines more interesting.
Other than that, keep practicing !!!!!!!
:)
D.

[Dile_]

Under the muscles ? bones :D ?!?
Sure ;)
Thx for your input.

[Dile_]

eee.... I scanned those, now everything seems shit, and I lost alot of values.... Gotta buy a better Printer/Scanner.... all-in-one series sucks..
anyways... My mum bought a new sketchbook, since my 2 old ones wich I had in birthdaypresent is filled up with skit... damn 150 pages in a month :jawdrop: but I guess most if it is just alot of shit, and doddlings ;)
but heres 3 more...
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/skanna0001.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/skanna0002.jpghttp://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/skanna0003.gif

[ArcoNL]

Hi Dile,
thanks for stopping by in my SB.
You a lot of dedication and hard work in your sketchbook. Keep it going!
Maybe a little piece of advice: think less in outlines, and more in shapes. You're outlining your drawings pretty heavily, but they don't show mass... The skeleton pose in your last drawing is wonderfull, hang on to that style.......

Cheers,
Arco

[xoet]

how about a picture of a telephone that is my next series of sketches but your great I thought you were lying when you said you were 14 my mistake but that can opener series was given to me to do by an elderly artist who was an artist his whole life and probably dead now he said pick something that is just around the house and draw it a bunch of times there was the can opener and that is why I did the can opener pastels but it is a matter of style these days and that I don't have cause it seems all I do looks the same as I fall off the edge of reality :eyecandy: :nohope:

[Darktwin]

Hey Dile, man your working hard like you said you would. keep doing the anatomy studies like your doing. Great hand page, your also doing a great job of mixing up the mediums, I'm horrible at that. I need to use my wacom damnit. I will, I will. Keep plugging away, mentler's hanging flesh page is a good source of anatomy studies here on concept art, Bridgeman is a great one I use a lot. There are many out there, to each there own you know. Your doing good. Like Arconal said remeber to see the underlying forms and shapes while drawing the contour of the figures. The way your drawing good, but take into consideration to shapes and how they relate.

[Dile_]

ArcoNL: I see what you mean, Ill try to think more about the shapes.
And THX :)
xoet: I see your point ;) But I have a hard time to figure your thoughts out :P
(Is it good or bad that your thought I were lying about my age ? I am 14)
Darktwin: Always fun and good to read your advices!
I will check that Hanging flash link out, ASAP or as soon as I see mentler around on the forum :P

Heres a new one.. done tonight, so know im on 24/60
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/IMG_0400.jpg

[dannE-B]

hey dile nice work man. im really liking your last post, epsecially the page to the right..some interesting stuff going on there and i like the perspective drawing of the building with the steps,! !keep going! !

[Dile_]

hey, thx prophet! I love your sketchbook!

Speedpaint: 30 minutes... i was desterved by some kids 5 and 7 years old :argh: so So I kinda just played with my brushes :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Speedpaintdile.jpg
Used Graphire on this one.

[Cold]

on the second last one, with the fineliner, those buildings are top-nodge and kewl perspective. keep em coming.

[MattGamer]

very nice sketchbook and paintings! your learning way fast and i admire you dedication to art. i myself am like any other artist, struggling to achieve a state of talent where i'm content in myself and knowing that my future is set. if you understand that, you can understand blabber.

anyhew... keep it up, as i can see you are... and i we all know how hard it is to paint/draw with little children around. that's why you make them color with you! haha

[Dile_]

Cold: Thx, you will see many many more of them ;) (wondering how long I acctually can run this sketchbook, would be cool to see in some years :P )
Mattgamer: Thx, Im trying :tihi: I understand, and yeah.. they were annoying those children :P
so I fixed the picture when I come home :P

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/speedpaintdile2.jpg

[Dile_]

Faust tried to learn me, and I try to get it :P
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/gestures.jpg

[~Faust~]

Well, you seem to get the basic idea but you still have to practice (like I do, too haha)

I made a quick .wpe to show you the idea (It's not very fancy, but it's quick. Be quick, not fancy!): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9FF4OZTA

[Dile_]

nice, I have the WPE from yesterday also ;)
And of course i will practise! that was my first try !
(Setting up an website right now :P )

[Dile_]

I hate double posts :S
what am I doing wrong, Ive seem to be doubleposting all the time, and its annoying!
does this happening to anyone else ? Im on Firefox, may that be the problem ?
Is it a bug or something? cause I am very very super sure that I just pushed the button "quick reply" ONE time..

[ganaa]

:lens: i think your sketch is very improving. keep it up. go ahead, my dude. i wish you best regards. :)

[Dile_]

thx for your kind words Ganaa!

[Dile_]

nice, I have a 4:th pages now.
heres a new one.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/dilethepage4.jpg

[Rolo]

Nice!!! Keep up the good work! Hey, but try not to focus to much on backrounds!
Rolo

[Dile_]

Thx rolo :P
Im not home, but I try to post another 7 pages when I be home!

[Flip]

You're making good progress.
A couple of crits:
Pen can easily look like crap, your getting better with it but try to work a lot lighter with it, take your time, and when you think your line is right, define it (try to apply this to your pencil work as well).
The other thing is take your time. A professional would consider a sketch to be an hour's work, and a study may take several hours (4+), I'm not saying you need to take an hour, just take your time and try to finish your sketches, otherwise what was the purpose, what did you learn?

[Darktwin]

You're making good progress.
A couple of crits:
Pen can easily look like crap, your getting better with it but try to work a lot lighter with it, take your time, and when you think your line is right, define it (try to apply this to your pencil work as well).
The other thing is take your time. A professional would consider a sketch to be an hour's work, and a study may take several hours (4+), I'm not saying you need to take an hour, just take your time and try to finish your sketches, otherwise what was the purpose, what did you learn?

Flip has some really good points, your making great progress Dile, reptition is a must when learning the techniques of drawing, but when your drawing, its good to slow down every now and then to do longer pieces. just something to think about.

[Dile_]

Flip: AND I have both old scanner, and old camera wich make it even worse.
What i mean is that if you guys here on the forum in anyway
'wanna' be able to see what I have done I must use hard strokes AND
then decrease the contrast in the picture, to even see anything, if you
also happen to have a bit of a dark monitor, you wont see anything
of what I have done :P

I defiently going to think about more quality.
but I guess its good to do those 40 seconds also :P
maybe just add another 40 second to em...It cant kill me :P
I can without doubt do sketches for 1 hour, Its just that , that I havent test it yet :tihi: :D But, I guess you learnsomething new everyday, what ever you
do 5 minute sketches or 3 hours sketches.. some new way to use the
pen, some new way to draw that special stroke, you name it!
but I guess you learn more by doing studies.

[Chisa]

Whoaaa you're moving along fast! I agree that it would be nice to see some things that have more thought and detail as well as the speed stuff. I really like the right page here (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/60/skanna0003.gif), I think it would be good to use some human references like that instead of drawing from your imagination all the time, to get actual human anatomy down.

Also I know that Photoshop features are fun to play with, but a lot of them are so overused by newbies that they've become extremely cliche, and a good artist shouldn't really need to use them much if at all. If you start putting in lens flares or cloud renders I will have to kill you :P

[Dile_]

I havent put any Lens flares or Cloud renders in my work,
I hate those filters, I have ONLY and absolutly ONLY use filters when
I have done abstract splash screens to 3DS max, I DO ONLY use
brushes in my work, and/or adjust the images colors and contrast, but
not with FILTERS. I just think the lensflare effect is annoying.
I used it ONE time in my work, and thats when I did a car render..
I dont know if you just warned me from useing em, or if you though I had
use them, but I havent use em anywere. :)
I use some of M@'s brush and some of Coro's brushes, + the standard brushset notthing less, nothing more.

[Dile_]

Photoshop - Painter about 90 minutes.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/girl.jpg
Edit**
before i exported to Painter**
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/wips/before.jpg
<Used ref>

[~Faust~]

The profile shot is the most diffucult for me to draw. You, too have many mistakes in that one. I won't go into detail about the shading. The advice here would be to get back to the scetchpad and study some profiles, preferably from other artists. Understand how those work it's the only way for you to get knowledge about them, now that I recon it, you didn't do much face-work at all. So study my friend. Your imagination is treacherous right now.

[Dile_]

thx for your input faust, well, this was my first Face studie :P
I will try to do at least one Digital studie per day.
especially since i dont have a scanner or camera at home now :(
so I focus abit more on digital ref painting :) studies and more.

[Chisa]

It was more of a warning against thing :) What I've seen you do is some random brush effects in backgrounds and things, which isn't necessarily bad but doesn't do anything for the picture, so its not really necessary.

[Darktwin]

Hey Dile, nice update man, good to see you take on the portrait profile. I think its better if you work on the portraits with real mediums first, like pencil and pen. It makes it that much harder to make changes when your painting also. First work on portraits of sketches, do a lot of them, and then if you like any of them from the bunch, scan it in and then paint. This way your getting both your portional exercises and painting. Good to see you worked long and hard on this. Nice sense of shadow around the nose, jaw and temple region. Your really improving with the tablet. But I would say draw your portraits out first before painting them.

[TheGnoll]

i see you put a lot of effort in what you do, and that definately helps you to improve.Keep on studying anatomy, a LOT (didn't scroll through all the pages, but have you tried loomis studies? it seems too me as if some drawing the anatomy is ok, while in others you don't concentrate enought.REally like some thumbnails enviros in page 3.My suggestion is too start practicing one thing at the time, anatomy, lightning, or persective.And most of all, when you do your studies, try and concetrate on what you're doing (in my experience, as much that means, doing anatomy studies on the bus is useless).Hope you get my point, just trying to help.Keep on working, improvement will keep coming ;)

[Rolo]

good work. For the profile face could use some work.. Like the neck.. The neck shadow, I like the eyes. The eyes are fine. Why not define the eyelashes a little more? :teeth: wouldnt do any harm.. :) I like the hair for some reason! :D
Keep it up!
ROlo

[Wolfbane]

Thumbs up Dile 8) :)

[Dile_]

Chisa: I see, thx :)

Darktwin: Thx , and yeah I will improve
my portrait skills, I sat down yesterday and drawed ppl from Doom: The movie by driving the player in frame-by-frame mode :P

TheGnoll: Yeah Im doing some loomis studies, although I have
some other books I read when Im not with the computer ;) :D

Rolo: Thx, I will improve my portrait skills :P Thx for stopping by !

Wolfbane: Thx dude! :)

Update!
**Traditional work**
Well not so quality, but a try to pose.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0404.jpg
Doddling for 3ds max project later on:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0405.jpg
Drawings I did on topic:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0406.jpg
Characters:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0407.jpg
SERIOUS WORK
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0408.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0409.jpg
Wrong proporations on this one, but I spended alot of time
to fix, re-do and fix :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0411.jpg
Small toes ?
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0412.jpg

[Rolo]

Whoa! Improvment! See that's the stuff we sketchbook bums wanna see! Great job. ALot of improvment in that little hand you made!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0404.jpg very well done!!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0406.jpg --that hand I liked!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0411.jpg wow! improvment! big step ! towards *magic*

Rolo!

[Dile_]

thx for your kind of words rolo! it feels good to hear!
heres a new digital painting ,feels like i have spend age on it :P
Worked in 3000 x1750
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/inprogress2.jpg

[Rolo]

this will be my 38th post!! Heya! I like the creature!!
Rolo

[Wolfbane]

Awesome :D ur highlightning skills are getting alot better :) kee it up and continue the good work!

[Darktwin]

Wow, Dile, all I can say is your hard work is really paying off. these studies are great. Good to see your measuring with porportion lines. really awesome anatomy studies. I really like the page with your characters, they have a nice gesture quality to them. the drawing you put 2 hours into is very nice, also, its really good to mix it up by doing long studies and short studies like this. Keep using your searching lines like your doing, and everything will fall into place.

Great digital drawing!!, really good improvement. way to take on a tough angle like that. Creature is good, the knights legs are off a bit, but strong post Dile.

[Dile_]

wow, just alot of warm comments today :)

Darktwin: I know the leg was off, I was just about to fix it, but I took abreak and just forgot it, sure I can still fix it, but I let it be ;)

Wolfbane: thx dude, im trying :)

Rolo: Hey again, Thx for ur input!

keep the comments rolling guys!

[~Faust~]

Hey Dile, you may no think so, but This (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0411.jpg) is indeed the best figure you did to this time. Try to extinguish this stiffness more, you're doing great already! And don't see working with pencils as traditional man! It sounds like something only old-fashioned people would do. Pencils are in that way better than digitals as you can't that easily erase your faults. Pens are even better in that regard. Don't use erasors or undo-preocedures. They just let you ignore your mistakes.

[Dile_]

nah I didnt mean Pencils as old fashioned, I love pencils :D
but digital is a good copletation also :)
And about that character: well it should be since I really tried hard on it :)
2 hours , even more.. even if it didnt turned out like the anatomy god :)
but hey, it was a studie :P
thx for your input Faust , looking forward to next :D

[Wolfbane]

Hey Dile, i just gotta say that ur last anatomy studies rule,
and i wanna see more of em <3 Great work.
I also wanna see some more facial studies, cuz nearly all
of ur guys faces have either cross placement as face or a
robot mask that coveres it. Overall great improvment when u come to think of that uv only been drawing since last year. Just wait and c til u get 16 or 18, then ul rule, and all the time u dedicated to study will pay off (same goes for me :P )

Keep em rolling bro 8)

[Dile_]

Wolfbane: yep, I gotta try more face studies, and Im aware of
the cross, and robot masky thingy :P I will try to change that :)
yeah I also hope it pays of :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0421.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0423.jpg

[Dile_]

NEW UPDATE!!!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0420.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0422.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0424.jpg
I GOTTA DRAW MORE FEMALES :D I feel *gay* right now.

[~Faust~]

If you want to improve your faces, draw some portraits from reference. Draw lots of them. The facial anatomy is quite complicated and you have to get it into your fingers. Practice!

[Dile_]

That's the word belling in my head every minute *PRACTICE!*
so dont worry, I will :P
more faces to come, but please comment what I've done, not what Im going to do ;)

[~Faust~]

Haha, ok :)

Well I'm sorry to say that, but your figures still look stiff. It's not that the proportions are not correct or whatever, the poses are just boring. Make some diversity, let your figures walk, sit, jump, lay, turn backwards etc. Try to get something dynamic. Oh, and go out and draw some people or buildings or something, that helps too

[LoTekK]

Hey, pretty cool. You've got some nice studies going on here; good to see you're focusing on the fundamentals. I agree that a lot of your figure studies are pretty static, but your small thumbnail figures show a good sense of dynamism. Try translating that into your larger figures. Go crazy with 'em. :)

For the profile head pic, the main mistake is the eye area. You've got a profile shot, but the eyes are front-on.

Good stuff, though, keep up the studies, and try to inject some dynamism into the figure studies. :)

[Wolfbane]

Ah finaly, there's the promised update :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: Ur arms and legs are getting along pretty well! I still notice that u accidently put the chest a bit higher up on the torso than it suppost to do, but thats a minor detail :) (the first torso sketch has so much depth, same goes witht he arms, bravo :P)
Anyways, keep up the updates as well as u keep on improving :teeth:

[evildisco]

Overall a good effort.
I'd like you though to loosen up in your linework, i'm starting to sound like a broken record.
Rather than draw from the wrist, draw from the elbow and even from the shoulder.
Also don't be afraid to commit to lines, yours at the moment are affected by what is called "chicken scratch".
Gesture drawings help tons to develop a confident and efficient line.

Anyway, keep practicing you're on the right path.

[Flip]

Flip: AND I have both old scanner, and old camera wich make it even worse.
What i mean is that if you guys here on the forum in anyway
'wanna' be able to see what I have done I must use hard strokes AND
then decrease the contrast in the picture, to even see anything, if you
also happen to have a bit of a dark monitor, you wont see anything
of what I have done :P

That's even better, it means you can work light until you want to define your lines, and the light lines won't get scanned in. It allows you to pick out just those lines you want. Also, ball point pen is better for sketching, use felt tip when you want to force yourself to lay your lines down right the first time; this is great for quick studies.

I like the creature attacking the knight, the composition and perspective look good.

Keep up the nice work!

[Ashrumm]

Damn Dile you are a 14 year old monster, everytime i look up you're at the top fo the first page. Great work ethic and i am also seeing lots of improvement. Great energy, keep it up man i really like your latest concept cool sword. Way to be.:yayca:

[joshvisual]

wow, your only 14? I see lots of interesting ideas here, yeah thanks for a nice reply earlier ^^ okay, so if you want to improve your painting skills I would look for edge control (sharp and loose edges, look for which way the lights casting on a form it will help you to control your contrast of the form) when I started drawing, I used to sketch tons of strait lines, circles and boxs, it helps you to draw in perspective and control of the line gets sharper. Look for references from old masters, look for interesting color and sample it <might help you to improve, try to make it your own> buy a color wheel and try matching the color, or look for good lanscape paintings or old masters painting for how they used color. <john singer sargent's paintings help me when I was going to school>
maybe was too long ^^;; hope that helped.

[Wolfbane]

k, ur sb is successfully placed in my sig :P

[Dile_]

Strange, I checked my sb today, and the last message was from Faust :S
now there are message from 2 days ago :S strangeeeee....
Faust: ok, I get that, whatever you say is good :D

LoTekK: Thx, about the head/profile, I guees your right, Ill try to do
as darktwin says, drawing with pencils first, to get the shape and anatomy of the head :D Thx for stopping by!

Wolfbane: Yeah, do feel that the legs and arms get better :)
especially the arms. I found one of those smudge pens I were talking about on msn, thats how I smudged the legs :P

Evildisco: "chicken scratch"
BEST :D, and thx ;) , I will try to do those "1 line sketches" to make my
lines more confident.

Flip: Im glad you liked it :P thx !!!
Thats the pen sort I used in the first drawi
ng on page 3, I kinda liked it, but you cant erease :D >__>

Ashrumm: I like to be on the first page ;) Although I havent posted anything
important exept the very last thing here :D and thx!

Joshvisual: yes I am :D thx, and NP your work is aboslutly top work!! I envy you!
Im doing one digital reference work every day, (started to do so this monday)
I will absolutly take your advice, with in mind that you have done so :P

Wolfbane: Thx !

heres my tiny tiny update *sorry* *sigh* Post more later
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ConceptartORG/IMG_0426.jpg

AND: look what I had from my sister !!, well it was my dad's from beginning..
5 books ( one of em only anatomy) with about 300- 500 pages each !!!!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/ConceptartORG/IMG_0425.jpg

[Darktwin]

Very good update dile, I see your trying to get structure down, thats what I'm working on at the moment. What I use to measure is the 8 head method, 2 head
2 head to nipple,
3 head to naval,
4 head to crotch, or bottom of pelvis,
5 head to middle upper leg or quad
6 head to bottom of knee
7 head middle of calf, and
8 head to bottom of the foot

now this varies with the female form body, its 7 heads usually, it depends on how you draw also. cheers, keep drawing man, nice update again.

[Dile_]

Thx for the 'list' Darktwin! :D
EDIT*** DARKTWIN: the same list you gave me is on the page viewed in the picture of my books :)
you keep watching my sketchbook, and I appreciate it alot ! :}

[Recursive_End]

good good good !!
You're so lucky to have those big anatomy books. Go forward and copy alot from it ! :)
Evildisco is right, be more confident, and avoid doing so many lines.
Anyway, keep drawing, and with time all those errors will go away. :)
D.

[Dile_]

THX Recursive_end! yeah I will take alot of em (only one of them is Anatomy)

update!
ok... sorry for this funky update, I Just want the character stiffness to go and
hide, so heres da stuff I did :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0438.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0440.jpg
Line confident test
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0439.jpg
an exercise from a book
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/Traditional/IMG_0441.jpg

[stine]

thanks for visiting my book, dile! nice update, especially the last page shows real progress! and your little figures show some pretty decent dynamics already! congratulations to that books you got, it's always great to get some guidelines, even when you're not using them entirely. admire your energy!
keep them coming! :)

[Dile_]

I dont want to bump my thread, but I aint sure if im home tomorrow, its 50/50
so I reply anyways **
Thx stine, np , yeah I want my figures to be dynamic, absolutly not stiff! :D
yeap, those books were great ! :) they are super old , but its still useablematerial (bought around 70's )
Thx for replying, I love your sketchbook!

[P E N Ricklund]

Thanks for dropping by my sketchbook. I looked from first page to last, I'm think you've gotten far already. And seeing such dedication with the antomy studies. Great!
I like the perspective in some of your drawing, where two characters is standing opposite. It looks like you've thought about that one of the persons are further away.
Keep on struggling.

Hugs!

[~Faust~]

Very nice man! I like your line-confince exercise. I take you did that without a ruler?

[Dile_]

Thx Pencilator, Although I dont know, wich characters your pointing at ??

Faust: Thx, a ruler ? whats that, if you mean one of those straight
things (often 15, or 30 centimetres) then NO, that wouldnt help :P
me much with my line confident.... >>

thx for your comments guys :D

[P E N Ricklund]

What I mean is just that you have a good eye for perspective, and that's a good thing ;) It shows in many drawings.

Hugs!

[Qxzi]

Hey,

wow you have improved lots since your first page, keep that up! :) And your last update just showed wat im talking about! Good little figures and line drawings. And your even better because your the same age as me, hehehe :D

Keep it up!

Qxzi

[GentleFood3]

Hey, haven't looked at your stuff in a while. You seem to have improved a lot, though your line work is still a little scratchy. Wish I was as dedicated as you. Keep up the good work.

[demented]

Hey

wasup? thnx for dropping by my sb.

k, mainly darktwin and recursive_end said it all - these guys know their shit, so don't take it lightly. You'll have to start looking at muscles and bones, and depicting them in the right way. Try and exaggerate your muscles and bones - it'll help you see your flaws. Once you exaggerate, you'll see the problems much easier. Even if you like graphite, start working with pen more - it'll improve almost every aspect of your graphite skills too.

Drawing may be the only area where practice never makes perfect, but it's the area where practice counts the most.

In other words, keep drawing!

- d.

[Dile_]

Great to see some comments and crits :D

Pencilator: Oh, I just read you wrong.. sorry, and thx :D

Qxzi: oh, yeha I try to get the stiffness away , R U 14 ???
wow... :D


Gentlefood3: Nice nick, oh yeah my lines are a bit of Chicken scratch, as evildisco wanted to call it :D and I do alot of studies and exercies (right now)
to get that away :P

Demented: finnaly someone from SoFA :D Its great to hear some advices from
you ultra-expert guys from Sofa, :)
ehm , what graphite ? I do use pen and ink most time, well pen and wacom 50/50, and then sometimes I use fineliner. :P
Well, as I'd sayed before, practiseing wouldn't be anyproblem for me :) since i draw at least 1 hour a day, no exeptions...
So I will keep drawing :)


Thx for your word guys, I appreciate it alot!!

[Kian]

great work bro, keep at it. You're definitly showing improvement. With your digi work, keep our brush as big as you can for as long as you can, then progressively get smaller.

[Dile_]

Hey, thx, I use to start out with as big brush as possible, and build on the details later, I maybe havent thought of it as much in the newest pieces..

(I appoliogise those imageless post, Im working/drawing, modelling, and code for Project Exodus (The End) with Wolfbane (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64692) for the moment, and, and the material we do wont be public in our sb untill we have an own thread in the WIP forum. We will explain more when we have a thread :) )

[~Faust~]

Sounds great. I can't wait to see what you're cooking :)

[Chisa]

It's really great to see how you take on people's criticisms and run with it, like how you've been working with gestures lately to make your figures more alive and loose. Great anatomy studies too, they're really paying off.

[Dile_]

It IS great Faust :D
hm, check the website, there is some pictures on now :)
http://www.project-exodus.co.nr
yeah its still wip, and the story isnt up, but Im trying :D

[Darktwin]

Good to see you drawing things from life also, its always good to mix it up, drawing from your mind to drawing objects around you, really good exerscises man. I'll be checking in for the next one. Keep up the good work. I'm curious about this Project Exodus, looks really awesome so far, if you haven't already you should explain it in the ssg forums:tihi:

[Rolo]

great work man!!! WOW!! HEY LONG TIME NO OPEN CANVAS!!
ROlo

[Dile_]

haha, yeah you have right to be curious about the project ;)
I'll put my soul in it ;) well its mainly done to get our skills into conceptart up
a little bit :) I cant post in the ssg forum, cause I cant log in :(
anyways, check out the project link in my sig now, I have done a site update.:
tell me if its slow, cause for me it is, but I have asked my fellas,
and they dont complain //yet, so drop me an line if NOTHING works , you know :)
we will start putting drawings / sketches and doddlings, modellings
and animations in there tomorrow, we already have alot of stuff
to go on, much thx to wolfbane :)
and thx for your input darktwin!
Btw, thx for visiting the Project page, we had 210 hits today :)

Rolo: Thx, again ;) we gotta do an OC session ass soon as you have the time :)

[Darktwin]

I can't get into the SSG either, something is wrong with the links, its been a few days now since I was able to view anything there. But about Project Exodus, it looks awesome, I know the sight is a work in progress so I won't say much about it other than I think you guys should use a different font for your main type font, but thats just being nit picky. The concept design of the rider on the 4 legged animal is really awesome, who drew that? I like the idea behind your project. Your dedication is really amazing and inspiring for me. Keep up the good work Dile.:yayca:

[Wolfbane]

The concept design of the rider on the 4 legged animal is really awesome, who drew that? :yayca:

I did :teeth:

[Dile_]

Hey thx darktwin, yes the proud member of that concept art is Wolfbane ;)
hm, I had some advice about choosing other front as the 5 standards...
Arial. new roman time, ah you know :).. and this font (well Im used to it) is kinda
hard to read...^^
Well, both me and Wolfbane have some concepts ready (well alot of concepts)
we just nned some nice enviroments, and then we will start a thread :P
(Tomorrow) so keep watching.. We have alot of page hits already, and some (excluded I am) returning visitors also :) wich is GREAT! thx all who have
visited!

[Kian]

Oi Dile! Stop talking and get some bloody drawings up!! :P

[Dile_]

ok ok ok :D
since we alreaady showed one of Wolfbanes concept heres one of mine :)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/Dileart/concept01.jpg
:up: WIP

[Darktwin]

Nice, drawing and diving into zbrush, man, I should be playing with zbrush right now, I will definitly be diving into zbrush when this semester is over. I will have more time over the summer to do a lot of different stuff, but as of now working on school projects. Its cool though. I'm really loving Project Exodus, great work you two.

[Qxzi]

It was only a couple of weeks ago when you said, wow 4th page. 5th page now ! Can you see how much you are drawing and stuff, which is good! Nice 3D stuff as well! Thanks for the comment as well !!! :) :party: :P

Qxzi

[Dile_]

haha yeah, pretty exactly 2 weeks ago :)
I guess get more feedback now, compared to when I did started this thread :)
Thx for your input I try to post some drawings tonight :)