WIP Color help

[Landmate]

http://www.porktaco.com/axe_color_wip2.jpg

[Annubissl]

:eek: :D oohhhhhh niiiiccceeeeee me like me like, ure style is pretty kool, i especially like ure use of tattoos and bladed weapons. u have a lovely way of mixing the past and future

[Tayama]

Wow!

I always like your artwork. This piece is very, very good too. :D
I really like the pose.

I can't give you some good advise, i only can give you some good luck .

[Landmate]

thank you guys,

I'm looking for some help here though -__-"

[benzo]

I like it. I would make the bg black or really dark (like a Rembrandt) to make the figure pop forward and make the glowing even stronger. You can also add more texture into the materials.

[pibb991]

i'd say try and add some more contrast and like benzo said, textures. i hope you dont mind but i did a real quick paintover. i really like the glowing axe so this is just an idea

http://www.echord.net/paintover.JPG

[blackhand]

I dunno, landmate, I've always liked the soft feel of your color work. The things that define your style that I really like are the clean linework and design, the softer color palette, and the solid lighting.

I really don't see a deficiency in the style itself, but I guess you have something different in mind as to what you want your artwork to be. Is there any particular style or characteristic you're aiming for?

I think you could round out some of the muscles on the torso more. There's not much depth or mass to them as it is, particularly the pecs and the abs.

[Tayama]

Originally posted by blackhand
I really don't see a deficiency in the style itself, but I guess you have something different in mind as to what you want your artwork to be. Is there any particular style or characteristic you're aiming for?


OMG. You're a freak. You can read his mind :eek:

[Erik]

Right now it feels more like an illustration than something that should hold its own all by itself. The earthy and grey tones make it have a feel of 'don;t mind me sitting here'... it's really cool concept IMO but it could jump from the page a little more - maybe a little more contrast at least in the upper torso/head area to make that jump off the page more and have the rest more subdued as it is now. A non-uniform background color (no i did not say the G word ;-) ) could help with that - i think a darker area top left will help with the glowing eyes (the feeling of the Terminator thunderdome winner pic)

But then again that may not be where you want to go. In that case i suggest some blue-green greyish tones in the clothing in the area of interest. Just a hunch.

Love the drawing ;-)

GL

[Nimrod]

Like everyone else, my first thought is that you should push the darks and really make some nice contrast - however, it woulfd be terrible to lose that expertly done lighting under his chin and under his arm; I love those subtle gradations, you really captured the light source perfectly. Sorry, but I don't think I'm skilled enough to help :( But to give you a suggestion so I'm not just being a suck up asshole, I think he should be gripping the axe with a bit more weight and strength. he's obviously some sort of major butt kicking warrior type guy, and right now he's holding his death blade a bit like a girl :P

[Deth Jester]

I like the idea of the glowing ax.. but maybe have it glow some other color.. or have a soft glove of another color so you can use that light color on one side of the charecter to depth and dimension.. also maybe you could render his right hand more, to make it bop out of the picture as well.. or render the points of interest a lot more to ad focal.. Also on his mask and things that are metal.. maybe make those have higher specularity.... Also think about your background if you are going to do a background.. and how you want it to flow with yoru charecter.. Think of your brush work and what direction you want it to flow as well.. Do you want your charecter to be more static and have a moving background, or have the charecter have movement and teh background be static.. Look at JustinSweet.com and check out what he does with his charecters and scenery..


I really love your soft style that you normally use, but if you are trying to go for a new effect, maybe turn your line art layer into a multiply layer and paint on another layer.. when you get that sort of where you want. drop the opacity of the line art.. and merge the too.. then go back in and start shaping even more using the water color tool.. or another multiply later to get darker darks and lighter lights.. *shrug* just ideas..

Love ot see it finish.

peace.

[Landmate]

Well I was hoping for more insightful rendering help. But I guess I'm not going to get it here.

I agree with what you guys are saying about contrast. and texture is of course something that it needs, but I havent gotten to that stage yet.

I guess I'll try elsewhere, thanks anyway.

[davi]

i suggest using deeper colors

also push those contrasts between saturations. very bright lights hitting his face and very dark greys forming the shadows.

your pieces never hit that exterme.
also even though pieces like that metal axe are flat you really still need to add some texture to them or somethign to make them more interesting.

ver all i think you are doing a very good job, just try to push yourself little more with the overall contrast on the figure.

[Deth Jester]

Landmate.. I fail to understand what you are asking help on.. you say rendering? Are you unhappy with your normal style and its direction and want to try something new? Do you think your color choice is bad and want a new one or suggestions on it? I think everyone agrees you need to push your values..

Do you want a more painterly effect? If so Manley has a nice tutorial:

http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/7714

Here is another nice one.. Rendered in pencil, or black and white and painted in painter...

http://www.dccdesigner.com/Htm/Tutorials/Canhead.htm

If its not the actuall process what are you looking for? Direction in the actual painting? the story it tells? you want ideas for the full peice? for a background? or the charecter?

Most of your peices lack texture? maybe add some sort of texture to his cloth.. and all your charecters seem to have somewhat flawless skin.. maybe add some color variation?

I really love your work? Hope this doesnt come off as being rude, but if you want help you have to give a little more incite into the direction of help you want.. Rendering has a huge amount of conotation attached to it.. good luck... I cant wait to see it finished

peace.

[Yaseck]

Another great picture from Ben. :)

I love your style and I wouldn't change anything.

[Landmate]

Ok well I have some ideas for it now.

I guess its just that everyone tells me my colors are never finished looking, I was hoping to get some advice on taking my rendering to the next level. But I guess its perfect save the texture and contrast issues. (davi: yea I havent gotten to the axe yet, its just blocked in)

And everyone that refers to my "style". I don't have a style, I just draw and it comes out a certain way. I do what I'm most comfortable with, and thats line. I don't like the thought of being limited to a style early on in ones artistic development.

No offense meant by that, and you might think its just bs. but just thought Id say it.

[pibb991]

if you wanted specific advice then why didnt you just ask for it to begin with? your concept work has ongoing themes and characteristics, nothing wrong with that. i think it would be nice to see you not be so precious with your marks and paint a bit looser

[R_M]

dunno about coloring, but the hands are to big...

[Juice5942]

I don't think it's the goal of anyone to limit you, there is however a definte style to your work, whether you mean to or not. This doesn't mean that you are incapable of doing anything else. I know that if someone else posted a work that was yours, I could most likely spot it based solely on what I've seen you post and what's on your site.

I think you're also going to have to be more specific when you say rendering help. People are commenting on texture, and contrast, and the like but it doesn't seem like thats what you're after.

I'm not sure if this is what you're asking for, but the way he's holding the axe is a bit awkward unless the axe weighs very little. If it had any sort of large mass, as I'd assume an axe of that size would, he'd probably have to have a stronger grip on it, especially at the angle he's holding it. Then again, I can only see the image that was painted over, it looks like you might have meant for the axe to have blades on both sides, so the bottom may be leaning on the ground.

[Landmate]

your right I guess it was a stupid request. forget it.

RIP stupid art.