Painter 8 Trial - Discussion And Art

[davi]

Share your thoughts, and corrections with painter 8.
ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/esd/Try/Painter/8/en/win/CorelPainter8TV.exe

this thread will stay sticky for awhile.

btw to "save" pictures with painter8 make sure you do art that is small enough to fit into the screen itself and do a print screen. save in any other prog.

[negativespace]

Thanks for the direct link Davi! For the people missing the Painter 6 simple watercolor, they're back!

[davi]

damn straight they are
here's my first test

http://www.creatureone.com/p8/test01.jpg

[Grooveholmes]

GAK! man... the interface is going to take some serious getting used to for me. Some of my favoritest most used brushes are gone, or don't resemble what they used to be.:( And half the brushes feel like photoshop brushes *Yuck* Hmmmm.. time to start tinkering with settings.


One of the really cool features that I'm glad they added is the new 'color mixer'. In a way I can't help but to feel slightly responsible.. refer to my 2nd post (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1433) in that thread. LOL. No really I'm sure I had nothing to do with it.. but you never know. :dorky:

[stikler999]

ok first of davi, you can't save in the trail version, so how the HELL are you posting this pic? as far as the interface goes, for someone like me using a 15 inch (yikes!) monitor it works really really well since everything is compacted. it takes some getting used to, but i like it alot. the mixing pallet whatever is fantastic!!!! for someone like me that using millions of colors instead of mixing from a pallet, this will help me paint tremendously. now i can pick a pallet, lay the colors down on there and then pick and mix. wow. now all i need is a full version! when the release date?

[Grooveholmes]

Originally posted by stikler999
ok first of davi, you can't save in the trail version, so how the HELL are you posting this pic?

Print-Screen.




:bs:ARRGHHH. I don't understand the Pressure sensitivity settings.:bs:

[davi]

lol yeah i'm printing screen

maybe these new wacoms will help with the pressure sen..

[davi]

this was done with three brushes. the first oil pastel, the just add water(BLENDER) and the cover pencil tool, which they completely screwed up, yet is fun to play with as another brush.
http://www.creatureone.com/p8/test03.jpg

[endregan]

wow sweet. im thinking of getting a wacom tablet, but im not sure which one i should get (preferably not too expensive) I might just get a graphire 2 4x5, which should be adequate. I dont even know where you can buy an intuos in canada... O_O!

[viZual]

What part of Canada you in? :)

If your in Toronto there's

1click2computers.com in Mississauga.

[keyth]

how do you open this damn thing up after you download it?:confused:

[Roam]

A crack was released late last night which unlocks all the features like saving and removes the trial period... but you didn't hear that from me! Only those who are ethically challenged need apply :evilbat: Otherwise look the other way.

[Grooveholmes]

Figure it out yet Keyth...?

I played around a bit with P8 (aka. PATE) on an image I was already working on. Its already becoming more comfortable.
http://www.joshball.com/imagedump/DemonReRepaintPainter8chees.jpg

Thanks to Davi for this tidbit of info.
Once your in P8 Go: Edit>Preferences>Brush Tracking and get your pressure sensitivity stuff. Otherwise there's a good chance you'll have problems. Funny.. i never had to set that up in previous versions.. it always seemed to work fine right out of the gate.

[keyth]

nope:confused:

[gekitsu]

http://www.polycount.com/cottages/gekitsu/pimp/p8_fungus.jpg
(some grainy pencil, oil pastels and detail oils)

inspired by a tv documentation i recently saw about a certain species of "slime-fungi" that are basically huge amobeae (size of human hand). they form things like that to carry spores.

about painter 8: that new brush choosing tool needs a lot of getting used to. it doesn't allow for the nifty switching between different brush types.

i hate that they "corrected" one of painter's most obvious pros: that you could access all controls directly. now, i even need to open up that shitty brush designer to change spacing. d'uh.

lots of the new brushes feel kinda the same, too.

[thomasaurus]

Painter 8 is great! The interface is excellent. I never used Painter 7 cuz the interface was just too annoying.

[keyth]

finally. ha ha. lol. boy was i doing something stupid.

man it looks weird. this may take a bit getting used to.

[ceenda]

Sorry, this is a shameless cut & paste from feeb's forum, but it seemed to fit the topic:

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http://www.apab03.dsl.pipex.com/painter8_fun.jpg

Well, I had a big whinge about Painter 8 earlier, but in retrospect there's no denying this is the best version of Painter yet. The lack of Flip Canvas is pretty mind-boggling, but the general Photoshop layout is very intuitive. The brush editor is pretty cool. The way the whole UI goes white when you load it is a bit disconcerting (always looks like it's crashed) but the wealth of options there is great. It also seems to be very stable.

I had to do this in one go and use printscreen to save it out, so it's not as polished as I'd like. It's a character concept for something I'm working on. :)
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To sum up, it's great, but there's some infuriating problems that should be fixed in an 8.1 update or me no buy. ;___;

[keyth]

can you not change the clumpiness and scale and stuff for your brush's bristle in P8?

[Grooveholmes]

Keyth~

Cntrl+B opens up the brush creator you should find most everything brush related in there.

[gekitsu]

one of the things i suggest for the first patch would be handling the brush controls like they did with the papers, nozzles etcetera:
they have a new place in the tool bar but you actually can show a paper dropdown in your "normal" menus as well.

i say they should keep the brush designer for those who want to keep their interface clean and allow those who want painter cluttered and fast as it was to add the controls to their menus.

i miss having 5 brushes at hand for direct selection. scrolling for every brush change is as annoying as changing some simple values like spacing or bristle settings in the brush designer.

[keyth]

thanks grooves.:p

[Lunatique]

I hate how you have to halt everything in order to get to the brush designer. I can't even set my minimum and maximum brush size for pressure variation easily anymore. And I miss my custom palette. Mine was so cool with all these nice custom-made icons.

[brokencow]

in the color mixer, you can't hold alt and pick the color...which is fucking stupid.
Painter 8.1 will be out fucking soon if they don't fix all the stupid mistakes they made....although i will say this the best painter yet....just has a lot of fuck ups...

[Martinity]

Brokencow, just switch to the color picker in the mixer. It stays on the color picker when you move your mouse over the mixer, and goes back to the brush when you move it back over your painting :)

[Deth Jester]

Yeah I really dont like how you have to switch to the brush creation menu just to tweak your brush a little..

I also dont like the opacity and size menu at the top.. I know you can click and drag right away.. but I really liked just having the little menu with the drag bars.. *just me*

OH! I was working with the "Digital Water Color" brushes.. they are like vs. 6's.. but when I save as a RIFF..Leave the program and come back to work on it.... the layer is dried.. so when I use white on it I can't erase away anymore.. MASSIVE SUCK! I havent tried out the normal water color brushes like vs. 7's but Im sure those are okay..

the interface is okay.. but I really dont see anything new in it that I would use over the previous versions.. the mixer/pallete is cool, but I never have used a pallete before in digital painting, so I dont see why I would start now.. I guess if I had more formal painting experience it would be nice to have a pallete digitally..

One thing I would like see for the pallete though.. Is pre-done pigments.. Have like Thalo Blue, and Burnt Siena, Indian Red, etc.. and actually have those pigments react similar to there actual form in real life.. *very difficult to do* but would be cool..

just my $0.02

peace

[ZippZopp]

damn! still no real support for dual monitors! painter really needs to implement that into their program so you can drag tools and such to the second monitor

[nathan]

hmm... link is dead now :(
anywhere else to download from?

[ignite]

hey,
i downloaded the trial, but i have a problem.
i have windows2000 but the program is all weird...
can't make out the colors etc.
does anyone alse have this problem?
or how do i fix this glitch?
tnx in advance
:)

[mtw]

Originally posted by ignite
hey,
i downloaded the trial, but i have a problem.
i have windows2000 but the program is all weird...
can't make out the colors etc.
does anyone alse have this problem?
or how do i fix this glitch?
tnx in advance
:)
Do you have the display set to use at least 24-bit color?

[amphex]

says file doesnt exist =\

[Erik]

nuther link --

can get there easily from corel.com front page -- click 'download trial left mid next to P8 banner.

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Products/suppDownloads&id=1047021764853&did=1047021793915

[MindCandyMan]

Have you guys used the mixing palette at all...is it just me or does it not seem very accurate?

[ceenda]

MindCandyMan: Pat was talking about this on Sijun.

http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=32884

But, I think the simple answer is that Corel are using the basic RGB model of colours which determines how different hues are blended based on their locations on the colour wheel. Like I say, Pat explains this much better than me, but dark blue and yellow will not give you green, but purple instead.

[MindCandyMan]

Ahh I see...shame it can't be like real life... All the more reason to oil paint in real life!

[N D Hill]

Just answer one question for me...How are the water color brushes? I hope they improved them. I know they put a lot of effort into making them do fancy simulated effects for the last version like dripping and blending...But I couldn't but feel that the strokes always looked fuzzy or hairly and that the opacity was blotchy and sparse. They also took too long to render.

[davi]

There is an option to use the painter7/8 watercolors and to use the "digital watercolors" which is painter 4/5/6 so you can pick between both.

the painter7/8 watercolors seem less lagger but... not by much

i'm unsticking this topic now.