Please criticise

[Nick69]

couple of pics i've done from photos feel free to give advice.
Thanks

Baby
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/5879/12wy1.jpg

self portrait
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/328/48pu.jpg

[NOOB!]

first one looks good,in the second one we are seeing too much of the sides of his face,his eyes look too close together and his mouth looks huge.

how about showing us the ref pics?

[flatliner]

I like the second image, but the first looks more 'budda' than baby. I would suggest looking for infomation on how the face/proportions mature over time. Im sure a quick google search will bring something up. Because the pictures are stylised though, its hard to judge what purposely done and what could be improved, but I hope it helps.

[Art_Addict]

Agreed with above. If you post the reference it's much easier to critique hence you see where you've gone wrong. The thing I like here are your lines. They look quite fluid so that's good. However there are big anatomical issues. The most obvious is the chin of the baby. Way too heavy. If you would slim that part down it would automatically become more of a baby. Now it's confusing cause it looks like the chin of a grown man. In the SP your features are not proportioned well. eyes and mouth too big compared to the nose and ears. I could go on and on.... but it's better if you post the pics.

[BMunchausen]

The proportions fo the baby's head are too adult. The upper skull is ok - takes up about half the total size of the head. But the features and chin need to be made considerably smaller. On babies, the features are compressed into less space than on an adult. I'd bring the eyes, nose and mouth closer together.

In both cases, you're not observing the actual shapes of things - you're stylizing them. (the almond eyes, the nostrils, the shapes of the mouths) Try doing very slow contour drawings (look up this technique online or in a drawing book if you don't know what that is) of faces and objects in order to train yourself to really observe the shapes they take rather than generalizing the way you're doing here. Best of luck.

[Nick69]

Thanks for all your views, i can see now in the second picture about the eyes being too close and the mouth being to big and will adjust it tomorow and post it on here at some point.
As for the baby it was a mish mash of two pictures both of which were very poor quality so a lot of it was done from my own imagenation.But have found a good site on the web which tells you that a babys eyeline is 3/7 of the way up from the bottom of the chin where as an adults is halfway so will do another sketch and get the proportions right.
Thanks again for your comments they really helped.

[Texahol]

there is a sketches/WIP forum (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=29)

[Nick69]

Did another sketch of the baby from yesterday. Any better?
Baby 1
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3348/baby12ht.jpg

Baby 2
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/110/baby1db.jpg

[nafa]

Babies' eyes and mouth tend to look larger and occuplies much more real estate on the face. Have you tried searching for good baby images to use as reference.