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Khshayathiya
January 15th, 2006, 11:19 AM
The Photo Challenge- Silhouettes
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!!READ THE RULES!!!
1. one picture per person
2. no previously used material
3. the subject must have something to do with the Topic
4. Starting Monday, closing Sunday.
5. the winner of the last poll will set the next topic; if the same person stands as the winner two times in a row, he or she must choose an other user to present the next topic
6. new challenges will be presented as a new thread
7. enhancements of the picture (hue/saturation and levels) are allowed, but a minimum of Brushing EC.
8. simple frame, no fancy shit
9. no voting for your own picture
10. the challenge starts Monday, poll opens Friday and closes Sunday. the winner starts a new post on the photo forum that is named
"The Photo challenge - the chosen topic"
11. the poll shall not be opened before Friday board time
12. In the event of a tie in the polls, the person who created the challenge casts the tie breaking vote




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TOPIC: Silhouette


So, ladies and gents, here are the contenders:




benjames

http://100101.kurodust.net/blog/uploaded_images/SLR%208-01-2006%209-15-41%20AM-734847.JPG (http://100101.kurodust.net/blog/uploaded_images/SLR%208-01-2006%209-15-41%20AM-737154.JPG)



claudeEGYPT

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6038/tree15kg.jpg



Khshayathiya

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/Khshayathiya/2abe0ed2.jpg



Daimwn

http://daimwn.zoto.com/img/800x600x1/bc61e43c8eaa76aa08f0cf9e737844a9-.jpg



stine

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/e-kirche01.jpg



mary

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/karinanerland/blomst.jpg



al-x

http://alextornberg.com/art/photos/blackswanns.jpg



Barret_wallace

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/barret_wallace/challenge/siluett.jpg



zeekookiemunster

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zeecookiemunster/shadows.jpg



Insane

http://www.insanex.de/contest.jpg



Tomas Kaspar

http://www.tomaskaspar.com/Fred/death.jpg



dkijc

http://static.flickr.com/43/83349797_1ba87b2f3b.jpg



mollyduker

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/mollyduker/picchallengesillhouetesmall.jpg

Morbid
January 15th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Good subject, hopefully I will have time to enter this one.

Barret_wallace
January 15th, 2006, 12:17 PM
hmm, we got around 5 hours of sun light where i live at this time a year,
and I'm working when the sun is up :)

nice topic dough :)

Khshayathiya
January 15th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Oops! Sorry, Berret! I had no idea that this topic could be faced with such physical limitations.:upset:

But we needn't be very strict about the definition - any darker shape against a lighter background should do...

Best of luck, everyone!:yayca:

benjames
January 15th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Hi all, this is my first post on these boards, thought I'd give this challenge a go.

http://100101.kurodust.net/blog/uploaded_images/SLR%208-01-2006%209-15-41%20AM-734847.JPG (http://100101.kurodust.net/blog/uploaded_images/SLR%208-01-2006%209-15-41%20AM-737154.JPG)

Haven't done anything to this photo but cropped it a bit. You can click for a larger version.

Hope I haven't committed any forum faux paux, let me know if there are better ways to be posting photos.

Barret_wallace
January 16th, 2006, 09:01 AM
khshayathiyanam, no problem :)
I'll just use a lamp ;)

claudeEGYPT
January 16th, 2006, 02:17 PM
My Contribution, ladies and Gentlemen, boys and Girls: *drumroll*:


http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6038/tree15kg.jpg



Claude

stine
January 16th, 2006, 05:02 PM
nice one, claude! and a great topic, too. i ran through town today trying to find a good motif but i guess i'll have another try tomorrow... :)

Khshayathiya
January 16th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Indeed, a nice one, Claude! What a pity the sky didn't help you very much... Had it been a deep blue, the effect would have been staggering! Even so, the greyscale is very expressive.

Good job, benjames! Nice cat. Perhaps a small black frame would have helped, though...

madpencil
January 16th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Hey Stine nice pic. But you didn't have to go find a motif, you've always had it. it's silhouettes, you mean you went out to find a subject. On that note, good subject :)

claudeEGYPT
January 17th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Thanks, Stine, Khshayathiya and Madpencil?
I see that the photography section has gained activity greatly due to these challenges, and i am personally more motivated to take pictures than ever.
Thank you for promoting me, i am now 100% better than before.
Looking forward to see what the outcome of this challenge will be.

Claude

Khshayathiya
January 17th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Right you are, Claude! We all benefit from this challenge. And the rules impose an iron discipline. You won't believe how hard I have found it not to add some layers set on Multiply or on Soft Light! I did tweak it, though - I have desaturated it a little to obtain a contrast between a coulourful lamp-light and an almost BW sky. Rest assured, though, I haven't used any layers on this one...:^^;:

So, without further ado, I give you "I STAND TALLER THAN THE REST":

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/Khshayathiya/2abe0ed2.jpg

If you want to see what other ideas I've had about this challenge, just follow my Eye of the Tourist thread.

Khshayathiya
January 17th, 2006, 08:29 PM
My apologies to Aerion. It was only later that I've seen your picture, which, I admit, is by far better than mine...

Daimwn
January 17th, 2006, 08:29 PM
Heres a go at it.
http://daimwn.zoto.com/img/800x600x1/bc61e43c8eaa76aa08f0cf9e737844a9-.jpg
Definetely some great shots. Claude I'm loving the B&W. But the beautifully poofy clouds Khshayathiya, are so...well beautiful. Wish the lamp was alittle darker though. might just be my monitor.

benjames
January 18th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Good job, benjames! Nice cat. Perhaps a small black frame would have helped, though...

Thanks... do you guys have an easy way of putting a border around an image? Because the only way I know how to do it at the moment is bring it into Photoshop, increase the canvas size, etc., which gets quite tedious...

stine
January 18th, 2006, 11:37 AM
hi, caught one of the rare moments we had sun these days... i'm not completely happy with it, but here it is:


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/stine17/e-kirche01.jpg


great pictures, guys.
oh, and i do frames "old style", with photoshop increasing the canvas, sorry, i can't help, benjames... :)

mary
January 18th, 2006, 01:13 PM
berret is my bitch
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/karinanerland/blomst.jpg

al-x
January 18th, 2006, 01:20 PM
http://alextornberg.com/art/photos/blackswanns.jpg

claudeEGYPT
January 18th, 2006, 01:28 PM
Nice one Al-x! very nice!

Claude

Barret_wallace
January 18th, 2006, 03:16 PM
yharr!
I be pirate sponge!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/barret_wallace/challenge/siluett.jpg


hmm i had never tough that finding a silhouette would be so difficult

zeekookiemunster
January 18th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Al-x I really like yours, its beautiful! I also like Daimwn. I'm hesitant to post my own because I have yet to find the great moment of inspiration :)

stine
January 18th, 2006, 03:42 PM
wow, al-x, your's my favourite so far. great one...

Morbid
January 18th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Thanks... do you guys have an easy way of putting a border around an image? Because the only way I know how to do it at the moment is bring it into Photoshop, increase the canvas size, etc., which gets quite tedious...

Make an action in ps. Click record in the actions window, do the stuff you want, click stop. Now you can play this seqence of actions by the click of a button.

zeekookiemunster
January 18th, 2006, 05:28 PM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/zeecookiemunster/shadows.jpg

i'm not sure if this counts since its a shadow. maybe we can say reverse silhouette.

Khshayathiya
January 18th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Busy, busy week! Are we on our way to brake the record of 13 submitted photos established by the Animals Challenge? I sure hope so!

Hey, Stine, your photo has much potential. But why didn't you tweak the contrast a bit? That way, you would have obtained a much more clearly defined silhouette AND the visual effect of the rays of light would have been much improved. I don't think you would have broken the rules if you did that!

And, zeekookiemunster, I think your image does count as a "silhouette". We have agreed from the beginning that we would accept any "dark shape agains a lighter background". Does everybody agree?

Al-X - I'm speechless! Your photo is charged with poetry!

Mary, your picture is too blury for my taste. Was that intentional? (If you've had some deep idea about the platonic incertitude of the shapes of the real world, do share it with the rest of the crew!)

Yours faithfully, though full of $#I&,
Khshayathiya

madpencil
January 18th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Barrett: That doesn't look like a silhouette, it looks more like a black object.

zeekookiemunster: That's not a silhouette either, it's a shadow.

That's just my opinion on thse two photos.

mollyduker
January 18th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Wow! There are some really awesome pictures in here!
I was thinking, even tho this is a challenge, we should still critique the photos on the thread?
-Mollyduker

ShadeOfDawn
January 18th, 2006, 11:12 PM
Madpencil you should look up the definition of silhouette

both the black object and the shadow fit into the defintion according to dictionary.com, but they dont agree with the standard colloquial defintion as i usually think of it

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Here you go dude.

Websters:
1 : a likeness cut from dark material and mounted on a light ground or one sketched in outline and solidly colored in
2 : the outline of a body viewed as circumscribing a mass <the silhouette of a bird.

Dictionary.com
1.A drawing consisting of the outline of something, especially a human profile, filled in with a solid color.
2.An outline that appears dark against a light background. See Synonyms at outline.

Based on that, I still say that the ones I mentioned do not qualify as silhouettes. It clearly explains that it's an "outline" that appears dark against a light background. NOT just a photo of a black object or a shadow of an object.

Shadeofdawn: You should read definitions more carefully.

ShadeOfDawn
January 19th, 2006, 12:27 AM
this was also on dictionary.com

n 1: an outline of a solid object (as cast by its shadow) 2: a drawing of the outline of an object; filled in with some uniform color v 1: project on a background, such as a screen, like a silhouette 2: represent by a silhouette


drawing of the shadow

photo of the shadow...

i agree with you in that neither of those fit my definition of silhouette, but i wouldnt disallow them to enter into the challenge as the whole point in the challenge is participation and increasing board activity and to get people to take more photos. Its all just for fun. I think they're close enough to stay. And anyway the votes decided the reall good ones.

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 12:43 AM
First of all, I'm not saying nor is it up to me what people submitt as an entry in this thread. I'm only basing my opinion on what we "generally" understand to be a silhouette. Based on that, my opinion still is that shadows and black objects aren't silhouettes.

Barret_wallace
January 19th, 2006, 08:14 AM
ShadeOfDawn and madpencil, STFU no more grammars and shit!

madpencil, a silhouette is a product of a lack of light.
this will produce a shadow, the shadows is BLACK

my object is actually made of metal and is bright and shiny,
i will take a picture of it later, and add lot's of lens flares all around it

Norwin
January 19th, 2006, 11:46 AM
SO here is my contribution

http://www.insanex.de/contest.jpg

claudeEGYPT
January 19th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Ugh man, I lose again! Drat! Insane, ur picture is INSANE!! and Al-x, more pictures from you on future challenges are gonna make me get depressed.

Claude

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Hey Barrett, stop trying to play moderator dude. me and Shadeofdawn were having a discussion, noone called you in to play peace maker. We're not bickering we're just disagreeing on something. By the way barrett grammar has no plural it's not grammars. Go take pictures dude.

Khshayathiya
January 19th, 2006, 01:35 PM
Madpencil, have you ever thought about the fact that not everybody around here speaks English as their first language? The fact that Berret speaks English at all is commendable. (Have you considered learning Norwegian?)

And I would keep zeekookiemunster's photo in the contest simply because in Romanian the word silhouette also has the meaning of feminine contour. And there you have it - feminine contours!

The whole point in this challenge business is to INTERPRET the word, to bend the definition as you please. Remember, "3. the subject must have something to do with the Topic"? Not to be obedient to it...


Your photo, Insane, is very picturesque. Where did you take that?

And, Molly, we certainly must express our oppinions about the photos submited. This is a Forum, right? It's the whole point of us being here. So, please, say what you think!

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Madpencil, have you ever thought about the fact that not everybody around here speaks English as their first language? The fact that Berret speaks English at all is commendable. (Have you considered learning Norwegian?)

And I would keep zeekookiemunster's photo in the contest simply because in Romanian the word silhouette also has the meaning of feminine contour. And there you have it - feminine contours!

The whole point in this challenge business is to INTERPRET the word, to bend the definition as you please. Remember, "3. the subject must have something to do with the Topic"? Not to be obedient to it...


Your photo, Insane, is very picturesque. Where did you take that?

And, Molly, we certainly must express our oppinions about the photos submited. This is a Forum, right? It's the whole point of us being here. So, please, say what you think!
First off, like I said before, I'm not commenting on whether anyone should or shouldn't post their pictures here. Second, No I've never considered learning norwegian, I speak english and spanish fluently. Third, I agree with you that this is a forum where we should have the freedom to post our opinions, and lastly I may reconsider posting my opinion here if they're going to be questioned and debated against every time. In one sentence you talk about being able to post our thoughts, then you contradict yourself by attacking what I think. So in essence opinions are cool but only if everyone agrees right?.

Barret_wallace
January 19th, 2006, 02:36 PM
madpencil, is this a art forum or a language forum?

men i kan nå skrive nokka på norsk, faktisk på moldensk;
å hold kjæften din din forbanna tulling!

talk more about art less about spelling error's grammars and shit!
people understand each other!

this is a Photo Challenge not a grammar/language Challenge STFU!
start a new thread if you are so fucking interested in grammars and language!

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Woah! lol well since Barrett's language barrier seems to have limited him to use harsh language, here it goes Barrett, FUCK YOU! how's that ass hole?. You wanna get stupid we'll get stupid! I don't have to justify shit to you, you fuking hack. I'm in here giving my opinion bitch, since when do I have to check with you first? See now you brought me down your silly ass level. Bring it on fat man, I can bitch you out all day. OR you can just skip reading my posts. Remember folks, I didn't start this shit, it was Barrett with his arrogant ass putting himself on a pedestal and moderating shit he has no business moderating.

claudeEGYPT
January 19th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Well, Gentlemen, u've all been sweet to each other, now let's move on shall we? If u wana have a go at each other, do that privately. Grow up you two!
Barret, i must instruct you to clean up your language.. If u want to express ur opinion go ahead, but dont attack anyone, the only thing you are allowed to attack on this forum are photos and u can do that in the form of decent critisizm. Same to madpencil! Sheesh! How old are you guys? Now back to the photos-

Claude

Khshayathiya
January 19th, 2006, 03:52 PM
If I remember correctly, Madpencil, Love, Molly's question was pointed at ARTISTIC CRITICISM, which is always welcome!

I don't think anyone has ever told you to refrain from posting your oppinion about the PHOTO he os she had posted. You can say all you want about the appropriateness of a certain image in a contest, you can say all you please about the artistic value it holds or not.

Just don't start blaming people for using bad English... Is that clear, love?

Khshayathiya
January 19th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Sorry, Claude! You are perfectly right!

Forget I even posted the other message! Let's forget this even happened!

madpencil
January 19th, 2006, 04:09 PM
If I remember correctly, Madpencil, Love, Molly's question was pointed at ARTISTIC CRITICISM, which is always welcome!

I don't think anyone has ever told you to refrain from posting your oppinion about the PHOTO he os she had posted. You can say all you want about the appropriateness of a certain image in a contest, you can say all you please about the artistic value it holds or not.

Just don't start blaming people for using bad English... Is that clear, love?
That's exactly what I mean, I should be able to give whetever opinion I want about any photo. I'm just tired of Barret commenting on my opinion. That and the fact that he started using harsh language not me-Claude!. I know it's seems childish but sometimes you have to do that to straighten out an annoying kid like Barret.

Tomas Kaspar
January 19th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Grand scale Silhouette

http://www.tomaskaspar.com/Fred/death.jpg


www.tomaskaspar.com

dkijc
January 19th, 2006, 07:29 PM
http://static.flickr.com/43/83349797_1ba87b2f3b.jpg

g'day. i wanted to post a bigger picture but i don't have any ftp server program here in australia with me and i go back this sunday so here ya go +)

great pictures evveryone!

Khshayathiya
January 19th, 2006, 08:09 PM
12 so far! Great! Le't wait for at least one more tomorrow morning! Molly? Shade? Madpencil?

Very good one, Tomas! I'm looking forward to seeing some more from you!

mollyduker
January 19th, 2006, 08:48 PM
OK! I got mine. Its prettttty bad, because i was trying to figure out how to do silhouettes in my house but i dont' really have useable equpiment and i was using my dad's point and shoot digital camera.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/mollyduker/picchallengesillhouetesmall.jpg
I managaed to try and finger on my violin and take a picture at the same time!

mollyduker
January 19th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Here are my thoughts about everybody's pictures because this is an art forum:
BenJames: yours is awesome. I like the cat, however, it seems just to be a picture of a cat with no other meaning. But I still like it.
ClaudeEGYPT: I like the feeling of isolation/desolation that your picture gives. It is very well done technically.
Khshayathiya: I like your picture, but it feels less like a silhouette than the others because the objec tis lit. It also feels slightly lacking in the image it conveys.
Daiwmn: I like the attitude of your picture. It is cool how the set up is shown of the situation but the silhouette is within that.
Stine: i like yours but the lens glare is a little much (like i'm one to talk, look at mine) and i think it would be improved if the church was darker.
Mary: Yours is cool but it would be nicer if it was slightly less blurry.
Al-x: I like yours alot, i wish just a little more of the swans was showing, but I like the shapes they make with their necks. It has a cool feeling.
Barret_Wallace: yours is good technically but it feels like there is no motivation behind it. What are you trying to show us? Also, I don't know what the object is, which makes it harder to look at.
zeekookiemonster: Your idea is very cool but the final product is lacking, because it looks more like a point and shoot type picture. Also, I am not saying the picture doesn't belong here, but it conveys the feeling of shadows more than silhouettes which has a different feeling in my mind.
Insane: That is awesome! I love it. It might be slightly better if we could see her from a different angle, so the statue is more facing us, but I realize that was probably not possible.
Thomas Kasper: That is awesome. I like the branch that breaks the pattern of the beach. Wow.
dkijc: I like the use of the color and the reflection. It is a very cool scenery picture. Definantly a good picture.

Those are just my own two cents, everybody else may totally disagree with me, but those are my opinions.
-Mollyduker

Barret_wallace
January 20th, 2006, 01:07 AM
That's exactly what I mean, I should be able to give whetever opinion I want about any photo. I'm just tired of Barret commenting on my opinion. That and the fact that he started using harsh language not me-Claude!. I know it's seems childish but sometimes you have to do that to straighten out an annoying kid like Barret.


ohh your so funny ;)
i shall remind you that you started bitching about the meaning off the word
silhouette, when you was proved wrong you got mad, then i told you to STFU
then you started whining as usual, then told you to STFU again.

I'm just asking you to PLEASE stop whining!

or do you want some cheese with your wiiiine?

and this is by the way the public understanding of the word SILHOUETTE:
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&q=silhouettes&spell=1

so PLEASE stop whining, I'm begging you! I'm on my knees right now!
just stop whining and i will stop using harsh language.

madpencil
January 20th, 2006, 02:02 AM
Hey you know what dude, I'm getting sick of your bullshit. I am now asking any moderator in here or on this website to straighten out this lame ass wannabe. You couldn't leave it alone right?. How do I go about reporting this prick to a moderator? His teenage shit attitude has gone far enough. Really, is there any moderator here?

Slash
January 20th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Whoa guys. The conversation sure is getting heated. You know, madpencil, you can use the report button if you feel violated. Its much more effective than shouting for a moderator in a post, that might look more like a threat than anything.

I'm gonna try to play peacemaker here. I know barret in person, and i can understand that not all of his points get through like they should. He does have a strange way of formulating things, even when he speaks norwegian i dont understand him half the time. :P We've even had heated discussions where we actually were agreeing, just explaining it in different ways so it seemed like we were disagreeing. Anyways, what he means to say is that he dont like that you seem to get hung up on definitions, semantics, grammar and typos instead of the technical and artistic value of the image, which he means is the most important part.

And barret, if you feel that madpencil is whining, its no point in making a post after his that says "whiiiine", that the internet communication parallel to throwing gasoline on the fire, and it most definately will NOT make the other party see your point and go "aah, i see now, thanks for enlightening me!". Comments directed to a specific person, thats off topic should be taken via PM. And as in real life, obscene language shouldnt be a part of any civil conversation. You get that you fucking filthy cum eating man-!? :P haha. ok, disregard that last part, im too tired to be allowed access to the internet!

Daimwn
January 20th, 2006, 07:25 AM
Hmm someones gotta start hugging soon or this post is gonna pop.

Barret_wallace
January 20th, 2006, 08:17 AM
did some changes of the challenge header
any objections?

and added an explanation of the Photo challenge.

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The point of the challenge is to take a picture that the viewer associates with the given topic.

regard less of the definitions of the topic in a dictionary.
any picture can be entered.
it is up to the pol to decide what picture is best associated with the topic

The Rules:
1. only one picture pr contestant

2. no previously used material

3. the winner of the last poll will set the next topic; if the same person stands as the winner two times in a row, he or she must choose an other user to present the next topic

4. enhancements of the picture (hue/saturation and levels) are allowed, but a minimum of Brushing EC.

5. no voting for your own picture

6. the challenge starts Monday, poll opens Friday and closes Sunday. the winner starts a new post on the photo forum that is named
"The Photo challenge - the chosen topic"

7. the poll shall be opened Friday morning

8. In the event of a tie in the polls, the person who created the challenge casts the tie breaking vote

Barret_wallace
January 20th, 2006, 08:52 AM
madpencil, happy birthday ;)

Khshayathiya
January 20th, 2006, 09:00 AM
Yeah, Berret, i would have something to object about rule no. 7: the poll shall be opened Friday morning board time (GMT +2).

Since we come from all over the world, having a very rigid time control could be a pain in the backside. Just think - when it's 9 o'clock in CET (GMT+2), it's something like 3 AM in Ontario (I might be misstaken, though...)

Moreover, I simply CANNOT wake up in the morning... (Lazy ass, I know...)

So I suggest each person starting a challenge make the poll sometime during Friday and that the poll stay open for 48 hours. So, If I started the poll today, at roughly 11:30 AM, I will close it on Sunday, same time.

Doesn't this work better?

Barret_wallace
January 20th, 2006, 09:31 AM
changed the rule :)
just start the pol as soon as it's possible friday

Jason Manley
January 20th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Hey you know what dude, I'm getting sick of your bullshit. I am now asking any moderator in here or on this website to straighten out this lame ass wannabe. You couldn't leave it alone right?. How do I go about reporting this prick to a moderator? His teenage shit attitude has gone far enough. Really, is there any moderator here?

i'm here...i see you posting like this again and i will ban you.

cool?


j

Jason Manley
January 20th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Woah! lol well since Barrett's language barrier seems to have limited him to use harsh language, here it goes Barrett, FUCK YOU! how's that ass hole?. You wanna get stupid we'll get stupid! I don't have to justify shit to you, you fuking hack. I'm in here giving my opinion bitch, since when do I have to check with you first? See now you brought me down your silly ass level. Bring it on fat man, I can bitch you out all day. OR you can just skip reading my posts. Remember folks, I didn't start this shit, it was Barrett with his arrogant ass putting himself on a pedestal and moderating shit he has no business moderating.


madpencil you are one step from being banned. both of you guys.

this is a total waste of my time. dont waste my time k?


jason

Jason Manley
January 20th, 2006, 11:51 AM
alright...so back to the scheduled program

there are a few very nice photos in here. it is good to see this kind of thing happening in this section. i love photography so it is inspiring to see this stuff.

i am surprised to see no one composing their values for space and narrative. check out the movie Othello by orson welles....really beautiful compositions in that which have a lot of silhouette use. it does not have to be just about shape....silhouettes make awesome framing elements for things going on past them as well....and layering silhouettes in different levels of space can give your piece a more composed and interesting look...its all about tonal pattern, figure field...ya know?


j

igorstshirts
January 20th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Way too serious in here...
http://www.igorstshirts.com/temp/carunref.jpg

ShadeOfDawn
January 20th, 2006, 04:33 PM
Quite a large turnout for this challenge! seems to build each time, and the updated rules seem great to me.

I helped spark that rather unpleasant conversation, so sorry for that. Its just hard to infer tone on the internet, and i dont know you madpencil but it just seems that a lot of the time you have a criticising or mean tone - thats probably not your intent at all and as i dont know you its hard to judge with just text. Sorry for constantly jumping down your throat.

I wasnt able to take a picture for this as i was got quite sick last saturday and thats kept me pretty immobile since. Looking forward to the next challenge.

madpencil
January 20th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Well I've never meant to be overly critical or condescending to anyone. My opinion is merely that, an opinion. There are tons of talented people on these forums, Points of view are subjective, we won't all agree with eachother but at the very least we should respect what our individual views are. Unfortunately I didn't have time to enter a photo in this thread this time but I'm looking forward to the next challenge.

Barret_wallace
January 20th, 2006, 05:00 PM
Khshayathiya, update the header.

Will-Saunders
January 20th, 2006, 06:08 PM
I love Khshayathiya's

Slash
January 20th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I've cast my vote. I voted for molly, since i have a musical instrument fetish. :D Not the best technical piece, but it struck a good note with me. (pun intended. :P)

Close runners up were insane and al-x. In al-x' pic i feel that the ripples in the water is a little too distracting, otherwise its a great shot.

mollyduker
January 21st, 2006, 01:24 AM
Thanks Slash! As a violinist I am slightly obsessed! Its not very good technically. Does any body have good techniques for settng up silhouettes? I was trying to figure it out for myself. I really think that we need more techincal and artist conversation on these challenges!! Sorry if its like i'm veing overly persistant about that one but i just want this to be a learning and good experience for everybody. I know that occasional arguments will come up. Ok, I'm not going to get into this!
I didn't know how to go about it so I used a flashlight to light from heind and then a piece of paper in front of the scene. Any better methods?
-Mollyduker

Barret_wallace
January 21st, 2006, 04:41 AM
it's nice to see that there are a wide spread of the votes :)

Barret_wallace
January 21st, 2006, 04:51 AM
Thanks Slash! As a violinist I am slightly obsessed! Its not very good technically. Does any body have good techniques for settng up silhouettes? I was trying to figure it out for myself. I really think that we need more techincal and artist conversation on these challenges!! Sorry if its like i'm veing overly persistant about that one but i just want this to be a learning and good experience for everybody. I know that occasional arguments will come up. Ok, I'm not going to get into this!
I didn't know how to go about it so I used a flashlight to light from heind and then a piece of paper in front of the scene. Any better methods?
-Mollyduker

i sat up a reflector behind the object then i illuminated the reflector whit a strong light, so i had to use a large f-stop to prevent over exposure of the reflector, then the object became black cause of the lack of light :)

if you are using a compact cam i think it will come by it self actually ;)
the light sensors use to get confused with white backgrounds
that resulting in under exposure of the object.

stine
January 21st, 2006, 10:28 AM
sorry i didn't answer earlier to your comment, molly (and xs, you mentioned the same thing, too):
yep, the lens flare is strange and the church could've been a lot darker - it looked okay on my notebook monitor when i posted it but on my pc i realized it looked to bright. next time... :)
the new rule (the time thing) is good and makes things a lot easier, so thanks for that suggestion...

you guys really posted great pictures, nice to see some "new" faces on the challenge, too. looking forward to the next one.

oh, and shade: get well soon! :)

claudeEGYPT
January 22nd, 2006, 07:07 AM
A big CHEER for Tomas Kaspar! Loved your picture man.. i am excited to see what the topic of the next challenge will be.

Claude

Khshayathiya
January 22nd, 2006, 09:26 AM
That settles it, folks!

The winner is Tomas Kaspar!

Now, do bless us with a new subject!

And when you do so, could you please have as a header not the old rules, but the new ones, as found on Berret's post? Thanks!

Khshayathiya
January 22nd, 2006, 09:33 AM
Does any body have good techniques for settng up silhouettes? I was trying to figure it out for myself. I really think that we need more techincal and artist conversation on these challenges!! Sorry if its like i'm veing overly persistant about that one but i just want this to be a learning and good experience for everybody.
-Mollyduker
Molly, Berret has a photo techniques thread (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59057 ) that everybody is welcome to read and improve. I have started one such thing myself (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59468), but I prefer to dedicate it to photo editing, so it may not be equally interesting.

mollyduker
January 22nd, 2006, 02:09 PM
Um... seeing as sunday is half over? SHould we get the runner up? Or should we wait longer? What do we do if the person doesn't reply and start a new topic?

ShadeOfDawn
January 22nd, 2006, 02:24 PM
they're supposed to start it monday - when monday is half over sure then we could probably go with the runner up

Khshayathiya
January 22nd, 2006, 03:18 PM
Should we make another rule about this one? If the winner doesn't come up with a subject within 24 hours of the victory, the choice goes to the second guy?

Norwin
January 22nd, 2006, 03:43 PM
Just in fact that this rule is accepted by everyone my suggestion is "broken" (whatever you associate with this topic)...

I am not online on monday so (if Tomas doesn't set up a new topic) someone else has to post the new thread.

Insane

Barret_wallace
January 22nd, 2006, 04:01 PM
The point of the challenge is to take a picture that the viewer associates with the given topic.

regard less of the definitions of the topic in a dictionary.
any picture can be entered.
it is up to the pol to decide what picture is best associated with the topic

The Rules:
1. only one picture pr contestant

2. no previously used material

3. the winner of the last poll will set the next topic; if the same person stands as the winner two times in a row, he or she must choose an other user to present the next topic

4. enhancements of the picture (hue/saturation and levels) are allowed, but a minimum of Brushing EC.

5. no voting for your own picture

6. the challenge starts Monday, poll opens Friday and closes Sunday. the winner starts a new post on the photo forum that is named
"The Photo challenge - the chosen topic"

7. the poll shall be opened Friday morning

8. In the event of a tie in the polls, the person who created the challenge casts the tie breaking vote

9. the winner got until 18:00 (GMT +2) Monday, after he or she has won
to present the next topic, if the winner fails to do so. the topic will be presented by the person who got 2nd place on the poll

Tomas Kaspar
January 23rd, 2006, 12:46 AM
Well thank you for the votes. It was close :)
I was thinking about it for a while and how about we would try to do a "DETAIL".

Sounds challenging enough ?

Tomas

ShadeOfDawn
January 23rd, 2006, 01:06 AM
you need to make a new thread Tomas please

and detail - hmm i like that one

it fits in with what i do most --> Macro

Barret_wallace
January 23rd, 2006, 09:55 AM
tomas, that's a nice topic, start the thread :)

claudeEGYPT
January 23rd, 2006, 11:03 AM
I think "Detail" is too vague.. maybe u can narrow things a bit.. ?

Claude

Norwin
January 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM
I think "Detail" is too vague.. maybe u can narrow things a bit.. ?

Claude

I agree with this.
But some Macro-works would be cool... :)

Barret_wallace
January 23rd, 2006, 11:29 AM
Tomas you decide, it's your choice :D