Gianto Moon

[Pichuerca]

Hello,

Here is my last painting, Gianto.

Comments and advices are very wellcome.

http://personales.ya.com/sanand/sketchbook4b/gianto2.jpg

I noticed that the painting is too dark in some monitors so there is an other version of it here.

http://personales.ya.com/sanand/sketchbook4b/gianto3.jpg

Proccess
http://personales.ya.com/sanand/sketchbook4b/giantoprocess.jpg





Pich

[N D Hill]

I like the idea and composition of this very much. However I feel that the execution was a bit sloppy. I'd go as far back as to tweak the actual drawing. I know the musculature is supposed to be exaggerated but the bulbousness of the arms is really not doing it for me. They look more awkward then powerful, as if their range of movement would be very small. Secondly, the foreground drawing has a very copy/pasty feel and the very little indication of any sort of connection between the two subjects other than that they're facing each other. Try orienting the heads and tweaking the body language a bit so you have more of a sense that the two characters are acknowledging each other.

As for painting, the tones are getting a little boring. People have said this me for a the longest time so I'm saying it to you. Spice it up a bit with some more deliberate placement of color. Demonstrate more of a dynamic lighting on both your subjects and your background. The background especially suffers as it looks like you're compensating by simply applying a texture. Also, your foreground elements are very heavy and the solid black fill looks like a bit of a short cut. Ask yourself, why the environment would be very dark, the furthest back you go, lighter in the middle ground and then all of a sudden turn to black? It'd be worth it to study some photographic reference of lighting schemes you're trying to capture.

Lastly, the sky. I get the whole fog thing but that texture is killing it. Even on the moon. Fog and clouds is the last place you want to skimp on deliberate brush work. Fog and clouds have a lot of directionality and form to them. Generic blotches doesn’t really ever do more than suggest that there are supposed to be clouds. If you want to convince people, you have to go all out. I suggest, again, studying photographs and also look at how other painters will depict them. You’ll have a lot of options and the right on is up to you.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

[Kian]

Ok, firstly, I would consider this as a silhouette block-in. Very far from a finished piece to be honest. Even in the concept of the image itself, I'm not sure what its about.

The composition isn't too bad. Your colour palette needs some thinking about.
There are some serious anatomical and design based errors. I would suggest buying a book on anatomy right now, and studying, hard! Don't worry, I am in the exact same boat as you my friend :)

Exo is totally right about the sky. After learning your anatomy, practice skies and environments intensly. Theres alot of work to be done its true, but ask yourself how bad you want this. If you want it bad enough, everyone on this forum will help you as best they can to get you there :yayca:

Peace bro

[Pichuerca]

thanks for your advices guys.

Exo: All you have said its true. I wanted to give to the giant a not human look.. so i invented his anatomy to make a huge body (giant). The black foreground was that because I didn`t want that the people lost time looking at that part of the painting, the focal point is the giant. Finally the background.. Yeah i don´t usually use references... Its time to start :\ . I take notes about your color´s advice.

Kian: ouch, You are very heartless. :[ I explain to Exo the meaning of this black foreground...And respect the anatomical issues, all the people said me the same thing... can´t I draw the things that i really like to draw that We have to draw always according to the rules!!! :blahblah: if you look at my sketchbook you will see million of anatomy studies of mine... But i still learning...

In addition, i have updated my first post with the proccess I did and I upload the original version of the painting too.

Pich

[Elwell]

The composition isn't too bad.
I disagree. The compositional problems are numerous, and should be addressed before anything else. The tangents between the giant figure and the moon, the interaction between the two figures, the placement and direction of the rear mountains, the overall value pattern, all need fixing. What is the story you are trying to tell? Where do you want the viewer to look, and in what order? These are fundamental questions for any artist to ask themselves, both at the start of any piece and continually throughout the process. All other decisions stem from these.

[Kian]

I apologize if i came across abit harsh, but they are my honest opinions. I would assume you would prefer people on CA.org to be as direct and straight with you as much as a potential employer? And I never mean to be heartless.

Elwell, you are right man.

[Bai Fan]

If you guys don't mind me adding my two cents... I think that you might easily be able to salvage this piece if it is still on individual layers. I think that if you double the width of the canvas size, move the moon just a bit to the right, and move the giant more to the right (use the moon to draw some focus to the giant but watch out for tangents). Then if you pull the silouette to the left so that they two figures are not competing it will become a lot more sucessful. But that might be just me. :)

[Pichuerca]

Kian3001: Hehe, nothing matter. It´s only that I spent several hours to paint this piece and I felt bad when i heard that words from you. But as you have said this forum is basically to said that kind of comments. Thanks!

ElWell: oh, i don´t spend much time in these things while i am drawing it... I have read a lot of books about composition and colors value but for your words i must spend much more time in it. The next time i am going to try it the best i can. Thnks

Bai fan: Thanks for your recomendation but i think that i´m not going to continue this piece any more. This piece has opened my eyes to put more interest into the things i do. I still believe that i have habilities to do it, or perhaps not.


Other thing, i have noticed that in the monitor of my work this piece appears too dark!!!! In the TFT of my house I can identified all the elements.. In this Gianto seems a simple black silhouette too and the white of the moon that i used over the moon is too dark too!!. What do you think??

Thanks for the advices...

Pich

[Pichuerca]

I have put another version of GIANTO. I think that the palette color that i used was too dark. I tried to paint a night scene with only the moon light but it seems that it hasn´t work so much.