Lung's Chazzwazzers: [+17] return of the crud / feb 24

[Rimshot]

Lookin good (as usual). Out of curiosity, do you use any perspective tricks to draw the ships (like Feng) or are you just drawing them out of your head using your own perspective instincts?..either way they look great:chug:

[Lung_bug]

500 posts bring a tear to my eye :chug:

jeff gran: that's the spirit

calle: bitching about materials is flossing a dead horse- if you can't do anything about it, get the best you can out of it. not much use in complaining about it. regular photocopy paper is available everywhere and you can do pencils and inks on it

young paddy1: thanks. yeh the site, need to get back on that. tight on time

rimshot: no, i don't use any perspective tricks (even though i should); i just wing it. if i'm working on something more detailed and finished i'll go anal about it, but these were just thumbs, so it was straight off

cheers

here's a short sequential i did in geography class today. each page is a6 in size originally (4''x6''), hence the ugly linework. and i really wasn't aiming for jawdropping art- just wanted to tell the thing. peeps at school liked it, hope you will too:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/lose01_lrg.gif

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/lose02_lrg.gif



cowabunga!

[Calle_]

Yeah bought 500 pages of copy paper now, for the same price. It owns :P

[AmadorL]

government job huh, funny shit dude, keep us healthy with your work!

-A

[abyss]

miller :)

[st0ned]

damn Lung_Bug your drawings are AWESOME... right on...^5

[endregan]

ahhh the comic is amazing.

man your markers are good.

keep posting, but drawing is better hehe ;)

[Muttonhead]

Sooo much amazing fun stuff to gawk at.

What atreat.

[AmadorL]

yo Lung get off your azz and post something man!:D

-A

[Lung_bug]

calle_: there ya go

amadorl: :)

abyss: ...rocks! yeah, that particular scene was just asking for his style

stoned: :rock: heh

endregan: dead on on the last line. thanks!

mutton: :D

amadorl: check below.

did this a few weeks back, on the back of a bookmark (why do i do these things so small anyway):
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/bookmark.gif

all i can share atm. yeah i suck i know

now go and draw something you can't draw.

then do it another ten times.

[dakoscwash]

lmao! I love how your reading it and when you finally get to the bottom it hits you. Haha great stuff.

[catterpillar]

hey lung bug - it must suck to still be in high school at 18.. in this part of australia we finish at 17. I'm in uni and I turn 18 in september. :D mmmmm so much better than school.....

p.s. your art is awesome. 'specially that guy in the armour - the recent one...

[Syrogen]

haha nice bookmark, just want to say that you are one of the people that made me pick up a pencil and begin a sketchbook (started in november, now finishing up sketchbook #3) keep posting!

[abyss]

same here. :)
THIS is the truth.

[Lung_bug]

dako: yeah, that's pretty much what it's built upon

catterpillar: don't see why it would suck- i'm having quite a good time in high school! university is a whole other topic... glad you liked the stuff

syrogen: #3 of one million :) cheers!

abyss: they said 'the truth is out there' and it was here all along. :)


here's more cheap excuses as art posts- this one i had to do for my biology teacher, so i'm also posting it here. ref was found on google, and it was roughly post-stamp sized and from that the pencil version was done. the coloring came later and it was from my best memory of the ref. i got the proportions all wrong, but i'm kinda happy because this was my first time working with gouache (and it's nice. i love it how red is vibrant).

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/swallow_pencil.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/swallow_gouache.jpg

i really need to posts some monsters or robots or both soon, don't i?

cheers

edit: GAH look at that tiny leg! :crosseyed:

[Angela]

Lung bug! you rock! i dont know how i could emphasize that.. but ya.. keep up the great work! update more!

[obid619]

ya dude that leg is a little too small. the gouche looks awesome though. sorry if i was harsh telling you to update i was just being anxious:chug:

[flex mathews]

those comics are pretty sweet. i like that government job one alot.

[Josef K.]

hey lung great stuff! i love the bird - really great values on the drawing

post more man!´:chug:

[Lung_bug]

*BUMP*

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/ut_bw.gif

an hour i didn't have...

[Aidan]

HEheheh! Including that last panel this strip is hilarious! :D

"W00T!"

[Bojee]

Lol :p funny sh*t! :D

[arghmisfit]

hahahahaha great stuff!

[Yina]

lol, that comic strip rocks! :chug: i just love the last panel :P

[brkofdon]

still loving the work! keep it going!

[WillSchnevel]

lol that's great. I love how it says "End?" :D

btw, i think your text balloons are a little confusingly laid out on that last one.

[endregan]

youre becoming quite the comic maker :)

I enjoy your humour

[maldrin]

lung I love it...that's wonderful...

reminds me of so many ironic moments

like when wildfires were burning around the building where they simulate wildfires to learn how to prevent it (somewhere in new mexico)...they were afraid it would burn down before the simulations finished. ...hah!...

lovely line work - both the left hand panels are reallly nicely done. superb and fun!

mal

[Yiako]

:bump:
Please. More pics? Soon?

[maxetormer]

hi :D I am just stoping by to say hi, and
DAaaam! if your scketch books have
quality man!!!!

:chug:

P. S. that last bird you made look
pretty good, i like all acrylic-water color
based materials, and your painting style
looks rather solid to me.
keep em coming

[spok]

wow dude! long time since i viewed your stuff...really, really amazing stuff here...i love it...especially the comics...superb!

[Lung_bug]

aidan, bojee, arghmisfit, yina, brkofdon: thanks! i guess i'll keep making these shorts :)

willschnevel: i tried to make them form a nice curve, but yeah it's slightly crammed

endregan: it's a great medium. perfect for irony :D

maldrin: too much sugar but thanks :) and that anecdote made me crack up... life beats any fiction, doesn't it

yiako: :nod:

maxetormer: thanks mate. looks solid? my cunning plan is working then... :chug:

spok: thanks!

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and here's some.... old stuff. :( i found it while working on making my site functional (on that note- the site finally has some functionality, as i have put up the static and sequential art sections and will be gaining more functionality over the next weeks). anyways, it's an old idea i had for a site, meant to be used as a portfolio site or something (for the effect and stuff). still might use it someday. here's how the process went:

(original sketch on a post-it note)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S01.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S02.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S03.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S04.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S05.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S06.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S07.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S08.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S09.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/S10.jpg

nothing spectacular, but at least you now know how i got my avatar :)

will post again soon, been really braindrained by school and finals and college preps and whatnot...

[maldrin]

glad to see a post from the lung!

best of luck with college prep! hope you're done with finals or will be done shortly! good luck with it all, don't stress too much.

wish my website ideas were as nice!

you're keepin me on track - gotta keep working...thanks for being an inspiration!

mal

[endregan]

Yeah that is a good concept for your site.

I know what you mean by braindrained I am in the same situation myself going into college. Where did you end up going?

I cant wait until the summer, :)

[Keepiru]

Lung, Its really great to see how you progressed from a post-it to that final stellar design. It looks really REALLY cool. I havnt been to your site yet, but its where Im headed next. I just went through your entire sketchbook, and I wish at 21 I had your skill, or even remotely close! Solid Gold, all of it! Also, your comics are a great read, in a cynical glass-is-half-empty hilarious kind of way. Me loves!

[obid619]

wow lung. thats a hard way to get an avatar lol. (for me anyway). its cool stuff man, and would look really kick ass on a portfolio. When you did the colors did you use PS or something?

[arghmisfit]

thats is sick lung!

are u going to still use it for your site?

[brkofdon]

great update. nice progression! for a sec i thought your avatar was a 3d model. your stuff always blows me away!

it sucks you aren't as daily as you use to be, but im still watchin ya! so great job on the website! and its good your still keepin your dsb going!

:D

[steak-tron]

good a' hell... cool to see the sequence too. that'll be a rad site with a couple million pages bookmarked to it.

awesome as always.

[metalwinds]

sweet, i was wondering if you were going to post your avatar. good work, glad you havent forgotten about CA

peace

[The Bear]

I see you've updated your website as well Lung. :)

[killing.people]

lung bug fucking rocks! weeeee!
what have you been upto? .. coome on .. gimmie someth'n .. coome on ..

[maldrin]

stop your drooling, k.p! you're going to short out the forums. ;)

here, wipe your chin before lung comes back and POSTS SOME MORE!!!

;)

we're greedy aint we?

mal

[Summer Pudding]

Great work Lung Bug. The variety of styles, and execution are wicked.

[vonciff]

[DELETED]

[feeb]

You make me want to be an artist. Seriously, you're amazing- makes me want to quit my job and draw all day. Can I do that? ;)

I can't believe I forgot this thread- gotta make sure it's in my favorites. I actually came here from a bunch of reported complaints about a post. Shame on me.

Thanks for all of the amazing inspiration! You blow my mind, man.

[JoshuaTheJames]

hahah

Feeb you always get to the insanity before me.

What was it this time???

-Joshua

[HARNELBE]

You are a killer !
Amazing skills.
Of course we see all the influences of your style, but no problem to imagine you'll find yours !
Impressive !
It's a friend who suggested me to visit your thread here :)
Now i'm registered to your thread, and will follow your next updates !
Keep it up dude !
You are on a good Way !

[DNA]

Omg awesome man..:chug:

[Lung_bug]

maldrin: thanks man :)

endregan: well, i'm not all done yet (need to pass some entrance exams) but i'm heading out for a design college... might also get into fine painting the year after. we'll see :)

keepiru: thanks for the kind words... the site doesn't look like those pics there... yet

obid619: everything except for the first step was done in photoshop. maybe you meant to ask if i used a photoshop trick to do the greens in the back? if so, yeh, i used colorize, and did some variation manually afterwards.

arghmisfit: maybe. probably. dunno. i'll probably keep my site as it is for a while, but if i make a folio soon, i'll use it.

brkofdon: yeh it sucks, but hey- the summer's coming! that means a lot of more sketching and stuffs

steak-tron: *fingers crossed* :D

metalwinds: if you're wondering about that, then you probably have too much free time... jk cheers man

the bear: indeed. and i'm updating again tonight :)

killing.people: big font lovin! well i've been busy with learning stupid things to finish high school and now i'm busy with learning kinda interesting things to get into college, just with more time to draw. so, there. :chug:

maldrin: lungbat returns!

summer pudding: variety? yay! thanks. actually the variety is something that lacks horribly here... but i have this summer reserved for studying backgrounds and clothing so :)

troymccoy: it's amazing, isn't it?

feeb: i could say exactly the same things to you =) recent stuff on yer site rocks amazingly :chug:

joshua: sun spots

harnelbe: thanks :) does your friend use aim? (i see you're from france too, so wondering)

dna: thankie! :D


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and the news is...
HIGH SCHOOL NO MORE! :fruit:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/zombo_pencil.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/zombo_gouache.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/Untitled-5.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/gouachetest.JPG

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/inkpage_tc.jpg

sorry these all i have at the moment, but i'll post more... this evening! (DRAW DRAW DRAW time!)

cheers

[Calle_]

Waha lungt bugs back jippi! :D now start posting some drawings !!!! congratz btw, though of any collage yet? :D

[HARNELBE]

harnelbe: thanks does your friend use aim? (i see you're from france too, so wondering)
i don't know, he contacted me by MSNMessenger and he is learning a lot watching your sketches.
All your sketches remember me when i was at the art school also. It's great what you are doing !
:chug:

And yes :) i'm from france :) born in brittany (Brest) and living near Paris.

[dakoscwash]

Welcome back man. Amazing work as usual.. Your rendering in the first piece is magnificent. What medium are the second and third? Also what kind of pen do you use for your inking? Kickass stuff man I look forward to seeing more.

[endregan]

Haha yes the lungbug is back!!

I just finished Highschool too, its a great feeling. Onto better things!

What does the Design course involve? Dont let it close out your drawing skills if it is that kind of design!!

We will be waiting for more :)

[I.was.ink]

Since, you've finished High School, what's your next step artistic step lung?

[xia]

Congrat Kid (Prodigy Child)...no more Hi school. :chug:

[treeboy]

lung you're a total inspiration. The scary thing is you're about my age and way way better!

keep the work coming, ill keep watching and trying to do better :)

[Syrogen]

YES!!! HES BACK!

[spok]

holy shit man, YOU'RE BACK!!!!

[D.O.Jones]

Rock and Roll!!

Looking at your work has shown me heaps about the right way to learn things. Thanks.

[Slash]

WOW MAN! I haven`t seen this thread before. After reading the whole thing, i just have to say two things. One: :bow: , and two: LMFAO @ "real ninjas always practice."

I actually also kind of hate you, since you are younger than me and still so much better. :D :D

I had to piss like hell when i clicked your thread. Twenty or so pages later, and after this reply, I REALLY need to find a toilet.

You got a gift. use it well.

/

//edit: typo

[maldrin]

Welcome back Lung! You were missed!

I love the stitched face (nice color work .. is it guache?) and I love the warped perspective of the mirror and sink. I'm enjoying your color work and I'm very glad you're back.

maldrin

[obid619]

great update lung. i like the expression on the zombie lookin guy's face. The painting stuff are nice. when you paint, do you use the same paper as the sketches? if so, doesnt paint react wierdly to that kind of paper? also, i know its kinda wierd but, how's life in Croatia....just interested for some odd reason heh. lookin awesome lung, and always a great abundance of inspiration. last question - did you ever take drawing classes? If you can answer most of my questions, you'd make me a happy man. thanks

[Yina]

yea great update!! esp like the 1st dood in colour, :chug:

[draw]

Awesome work

torrential

clean clean clean clean

[The Iconoclast]

Sweet stuff, dude. Any word on college? I'm sure you'll go anywhere you wanna go. Man, I'll shut up and go sketch now. This is inspiring.

I think I know what you should be doing more often : Teaching me. :D :evilbat:

[Lung_bug]

wow a lot of replies already! thanks a bunch :chug:

for those who asked about college, i already wrote that before, but here's once more- design college, here, capitol city. not the best choice but there's not much choice at all.

also a common question was about the color stuffs- it's all gouache on copy paper and 70g/m2 sketchbook paper... zombie was first done in pencil, then scanned and printed out and painted over (photocopy paper). after gouache, i went over it a bit with a colored pencil

obid619: paper ^ . life in croatia is weird, as we're a postsocialistic country. people are rather poor and economy is pretty much screwed, but there's some nice nature, especially the sea. people are mostly assholes, but there's also very nice people... they mostly emigrate, though. also, not enough art shops!

dakoscwash: pilot g-1, pilot g-tec c4, crow quills, pens... whatever i have around.

i didn't update when i said (two letters- gee ef) but here's somme thingymabobs from today, ... cover for my school's yearbook and how i planned it:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/c2004thumbs.gif
(the thumbs, about 2'' in width, maybe a bit less... did i mention i found pilot g-tecs again? those rule!)

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/c2004.gif
final pic, done on a4, so it will be printed at 100%. should've drawn it bigger, but i wanted the pencil artefacts to be visible. also, done in quite a rush, hence the roughness.

and a scrap from ma sketchbook, starting out with environments, here's one of the first shy attempts... done while preparing for finals, to chill a bit
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/warehouse.gif

i'll be seeing you soon! ;)

edit// i realized that i posted yesterday so YAY... lets see if i can keep it at a daily pace

[endregan]

Cool you made your own cover for your yearbook. That is a good idea :). I worked on the yearbook team with my school and I was on the cover team. It was really fun..
.
Good luck in design college, you are amazingly dedicated

[Calle_]

With your amount of skill there is no doubt that you could get into any art-collage in the world. tho some might be expensive... who cares, you get to draw :D
keep it up

Calle.

[Lung_bug]

endregan: i was the cover team on this one. thanks

calle_: dead on! "i get to draw" :chug:

[Jens]

Hi lung, good to see you made it past the finals.. I remember that I had a hard time focussing on studying when all you wanted to do was draw. I hope to talk to you about some stuff some time.

[Cue]

Incredible update, this is my favorite thread. So inspiring.

I'm wondering, how many drawings do you do daily?

[Lung_bug]

jens: hey man, long time no see. thanks. i have icq and aim so whatever suits you :)

cue: at least one. but at normal conditions i have a 5-page-a-day minimum. make it a habit and you've got a winning horse.

-

here's a few old sketches i finished as a warmup for today's work:
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/butch.gif

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/stripes.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/zoltan.jpg

and one i did in bed last night-
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/balance.gif
(yes, i keep the foster book on my nightstand... also inspired by jeff jones who rocks immensely)

back to work now, cheers

[van]

YES! Daily updates are good. :)

[dakoscwash]

Nice.. The first and last ones are awesome man. You've got a wicked imagination. I love your inks. Glad you're updating regularly once again.

[Syrogen]

too good to be true!? daily updates, woohoo! i love that grinning zoltan guy and the shirtless girl, reminds me of that guy from beeba.net

[Calle_]

Avast ye! daily owns! u own! daily lung bug own!!
great work, draw 110% now that you are free for a while :D

Teaser. Croatia out in euro2004 sweden passed to quarters muahahahha!! :D
Peace.

Calle.

[endregan]

Good to be alive now eh!

Pure foster inspired, good stuff.

:)

[The Iconoclast]

cue: at least one. but at normal conditions i have a 5-page-a-day minimum. make it a habit and you've got a winning horse.

I'm going to start drawing 2 hours a day or 5 pages a day, whichever is more. THAT'S YOUR SECRET!

:D I concur...daily updates are good. :chug:

[metalwinds]

the guy with butcher knives in his back is awesome. whenever i see pen work from you. ..i am dying to see them colored. good work

[Lung_bug]

van: ya think? ;)

dakoscwash: i'm glad too... this summer will be muy fun

syrogen: teh tew. *bow*

calle_: yarr there be updates on the starboard deck... and the soccer- our team sucks so much balls. i mean, 0-0 with switzerland... jesus. i'm not watching them ever (decided after that game). the sweden-bulgaria match was teh most fun :)

endregan: indeed :D

the iconoclast: it is. but it's not really a secret. my real secret would be my magical third nipple. oops!

metalwinds: colors, eh? well maybe someday ;)

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having problems with sleep so i started this. didn't work in ps in a while... took shots every few steps so there's a nice overview of how i do it (and it's much better than that shoddy chick i posted a while ago). not done yet, now come the details and such and i'm leaving that for morning, as it's getting kinda late and i think i'll be able to fall asleep. well, here goes nothin:
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/first12halfsize.jpg

and the last one in fullsize:
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/Untitled-12.jpg

i miss studies... need to get outside more...
need to study art history...
sleep...
...

[endregan]

Hey great stuff. ITs AJ!!!

:) I like how you slowly built up the values...

[The Iconoclast]

Hey, that's pretty damn cool. I guess a painting is worth...2 pages? Dude, I actually DREW 5 friggin pages tonight after reading your post!

DAYUMN! I never use that expression and I never draw that much, so thank you for proving that it isn't an impossible feat. Now, I just have to keep this pace up...

My sketches will be scanned in once I restart the comp.

That painting looks awesome. I'd like to see some more detail around the eye, though. It seems to blur a little more in that part. Of course, this could be a speedpaint. :D :chug:

Oh, and did you get the chance to attend the workshop?

[Calle_]

Avast, you are no landcrab you! remember, The'r a no law po'n the seas!! :D

Groovy work, yeah swe vs bul was pretty fun :D Zlatan's goal Versus italy was also pretty crazy ^^ favorite game so far was todays Portugal vs England, i hoped for Portugal and shise i almost got a heartattack!

Keep up the GREAT FUCKING WORK!! and good luck with everything :D
Peace

Calle.

[brkofdon]

aw you are still updating! your dailys sketch book has always been my fav! love your work style and excution of your drawings...fun fun stuff! plz keep it going!!! much inspiration flowing from your drawings...too much i think, which is great!!

[thomasaurus]

great painting lung... but I'm gonna be picky and crit it ( ear is a little small)

keep it daily! push yourself damnit :D

[AmadorL]

dude you are freaking sick!!!!
get help man.......


:chug:
Amador

[Legnakrad]

Lung, YOU ARE AWESOME. i'm a huge fan of all your work and also, as many have told you before, you're a huge inspiration.

And about the Euro. Today's game was ridiculous. I'm a big Portugal fan (being 100% portuguese) and i really didn't have faith in them today, but they sure showed me!! Woot! 6-5 in PKs.. amazing.

[winjer]

I have just one question for you. Did you draw stuff straight outta your head when you were beggining? Im having a lot of trouble getting no ref stuff to look decent. I have a mortal fear of never being able to draw cool stuff without ref.

[S.C. Watson]

Okay, Lung, here's the deal.

You suck.

Now accept it. Move on. Your life will be simpler. Forget art college. Go get a meaningful career in, um, accounting. You'll make a difference, I'm sure.

So, when's the next update? :D

Cheers,
~Oreg.

[maldrin]

I love it all. the progress pic of Android is great, but I realllllly love the robot!!

your use of light and dark really shows in that pic!

I keep my foster book close, as well! nice robots, tasty robots!

Oh, and don't give her her shirt back, please.

:)

thanks for all the updates!!!

maldrin

[obid619]

wow lung, thats 3 days in a row lol! hey i'd really appreciate if i can talk to you on AIM? private message me with your AIM screen name. thanks a lot dude. its gonna be kinda difficult though cuz you live that far away and i live in san diego, CA. i dunno when your own at your home, cuz we have time differences lol. I usually stay up late though. I really look forward to talking to you, of course, with your permission. thanks lung.

[Lung_bug]

the forum's back... :clapping2

endregan: yeh, it's him, but when i looked at that pic in the morning i was horrified. need to get around and fix it

the iconoclast: 5 pages is a good start! :chug: and nope couldn't go to the workshop because i had finals... i'll be on the next US one for sure, maybe even the europe one if i get some moneys by then

calle_: thanks... i mean aye, i'll be on the poop deck, drawin me scurvy hide off

brkofdon: yeh, isn't it weird? glad you like it :)

nor: you're right. and i fix0red it. thanks (be nitpicky all the time, please)

amadorl: :dead: heh

legnakrad: thank you kind sir :D

winjer: yep, about half the time. the trick is to apply stuff you learned while life drawing to it (like light&shadow, proportions and such). maybe it's hard to explain, but have this example- by drawing still life (fruit) you can get better at drawing robots (and everything else)! have i gone completely insane? no. while drawing still life you practice:
1) composition- arranging shapes in an aesthetically pleasant way (robots are all about that, for the most part)
2) thinking in basic shapes - essential. fruit is good because you get used to thinking in terms of spheres, cylinders, cubes...
3) proportion
4) lighting
5) pencil control (or whatever tools you use)
the key is being creative in all kinds of ways... mignola used a parking meter in front of his building to create mechanical things in one of his hellboy comics (wake the devil, i think). if you think this way, you don't learn just one thing from studies, but dozens. hope this made sense

oregano: naw, i'm too deep in by now... tho accounting sounds fun. numbers. mmm.

maldrin: anytime :) cheers

obid619: du hast ein PM, senor

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*gasp* no new art today! i've been rolling in art history as the exams draw near, making a folio for the college and also been working out some technical perspective stuffs... like this
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/geometric-thirds.gif
... yeh, boring stuff (figuring out these things on my own is fun tho)

but, i made myself a spankin new sketchbook last night, A4, 190 pages thick, my best friend for the next 3-4 months... here it is in all the low-res jpeg quality:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/XXIIsm.jpg

cheers

[xia]

Yeay! Prodigy child and perspective fun! :clapping1 Very nice WIP up there.

[DNA]

:clapping1 :clapping1 :clapping1 you are doing better and better every single day ( almost :) ) :clapping1 :clapping1 :clapping1

:thumbsup:

[endregan]

Sweet!!
May I ask how you make your own sketchbook? I wouldnt mind!!

Especially your own cover.. that would be awesome.

[afklamer]

you make me feel lazy every time I'm passing by....

ive been doing life clases for about 2 jears now, just once a week and I realized that i've learn much more than sketching a human body from a photo, but youre studyin also from photo so how do you get improvements out of those? is there a special way youre sketching these pics ?

[Angela]

Lung! you rock!! so inspiring.. keep it coming! and i love how you have your own unique style....!! i just love it!!! update more =)

[strych9ine]

The sketchbook cover is a sweet idea... how did you get the cover and binding on?

[elboy]

seeing the android jones pic develop step by step was like magic. you make good images. you're an inspiration to so many on these boards.

[treeboy]

please do share your sketchbook secrets...

that cover is absolutely awesome

[Android]

wow lung-

im totaly flattered, you captured my terrible posture perfectely.

i love the cover of you new sketchbook, cant wait to see the riches you discover within it,

keep up the passion, your work is always an inspiration to me .

peace out

droid :nod:

[winjer]

Hey thanks a lot mr lung your reply gave me a much needed insight on how to change my approach to learning to draw.

[van]

Sweet!!
May I ask how you make your own sketchbook? I wouldnt mind!!

Especially your own cover.. that would be awesome.

I will second that!

[Main Loop]

great stuff as always.. cleaver monster and give me my shirt back put a smile on my face.. cool painting of Android..

[keoshi]

All I've got to say is:

I'm STUNNED...

Awesome, awesome work!!!...
I wanted to draw half as great as you...
Keep 'em coming, dude!!
Nice webpage too ;)
And...I LOVE that avatar of yours...GRRRRRREAT, pal! :D

btw, guys!!!!...I'm Portuguese! I'm proud of my National Team! You know what? I want to beat Greece in the final! xD

Propz!

[Lung_bug]

xia: thanks... not much time to work on it tho

dna: i really need a swift kick in the butt :)

endregan: well, i just bought two unlined notebooks cut their covers off, glued them together and then turned the covers backwards and made a custom spine... in all nothing complicated. i used acrylics to paint the outside. if you're going for a completely custom sketchbook, that's a bit more tricky, but not impossible... especially if you have a binding place nearby :)

nagasch: yes, i use my special powers

angela: unique style, eh? maybe in some thirty years :D thanks

strych9ine: check the reply for endregan

elboy: :thumbsup:

treeboy: ^ (but it's nothing special, really)

android: yeh i got the posture and the atmosphere... no time to finish it, maybe even better as fuzzy as it is now. and for the inspiration part- right back at ya :)

winjer: hope it works... have fun

van: ^ up there somewhere

main loop: thanks :)

keoshi: whee! thanks, glad you like it. and don't stop on half... ;)

---

i'm taking 'daily' out of the thread title because i'll be away for a while... it'll be back when i'm back. tomorrow heading out for the capital city for classification exams, wish me luck. if all goes well, i'll be home around jul14 or 15... maybe some urban sketching if things allow it. when i'm back (again if all goes ok) i'll be free for the summer and have much more time to sketch, learn and sketch. i can tell you right now that this summer's main focus will be environments... if you have any ideas or crits or comments, please share. i get too much sugar coated lovin, and not enough bitching.

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/wtfhead.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/headstart.jpg

have fun, everyone


:waves:
cheers

[xia]

Yeay, nice update Lung. I really like the monster, very nice crosshatching and interesting composition/ texture used. Keep them coming prodigy child!

Good luck on the exam thinging.

[S.C. Watson]

Yummi stuff Lung. Cool critter.

Cheers,
~Oreg.

[arghmisfit]

cool update!

best of luck to u in Capital City, i hope to see that urban shat soon. :hello!:

[I.was.ink]

allright lung, you dont want sugar. Then here I go!

The composition in the second one is working pretty well, the only thing that I dont like is that all the faces(pretty much all of them) look the same, or they all look like brothers. I think the sketch would be better if there was a diversity of different people. Maybe a little more detail wouldnt hurt.

Thats all I gots...

-Iwasink

[obid619]

L33tinism = lung bug


obid :cool:

[the good war]

nice stuff
crit:
wtfhead
-the vien/ wrinkle on the head from the eye to the ear doesn't correctly ride the form of the head
+the vien is very 2d in comparison to the cheek form
+ the solid line of the vien splits the head into two
+update more=)

headstart.jpg
-like I.was.ink said stear further away from the generic construction model for your imaginary heads i found a great source to study head deviations can be found in a yearbook i drew about 15 heads out of my yearbook yesterday , you probally know this better than i but make sure to construct the heads instead of just drawing them
i would, and am, studing gaboart's (sp?) studies to understand how to apply a deconstructionists mind set to studying photos
-it may just be me or my infamiliarity with the center character but it seems as if the back of his head may be a bit truncated
- the line wait of the eye and the contrasty angles in comparison to the heads surrounding it is too much it draws too much attention to it but the image is saved thanks to the darksest area near the top
- the crazy doctor image withe gear eyes seems out of place like it was pasted in the picture i think you acheived the hpx look except in the case of this doctor becuase he is not entirely intergrated well and in the case of the line guy at the bottom with a star directly above his head. the thing i find slightly irratating about this character is the line work really and his ear may be too close to his eyes. one more thing not that this is a problem in any way but if you were to truly emulate hpx i think the geometry would be far more scewed and distorted- but thats more a question of aesthetics

over all you have a great sense of form and line conservation
i hope get something of use from my critique and(plug plug) if you ever feel like stopping over at my daily sketchbook and droppin a crit or two that would not be a bad thing :btu:

[Syrogen]

ill be looking forward to the 14th or 15th! everytime i see that youve updated this thread i wet myself

[maxetormer]

You are a very reliable source of inspiration TonchyZ,
I know any school that you apply for will be very lucky
to have you, dude =)
and congrats for finising up the school (I cant wait for
my university to be over my self, so that i can start looking
out for ilustration work).


P. S ill be cool for you to release some finished up Digital painting
its been a long time since the last one =)

see ya, and keep up the drawing fun :rock:

[endregan]

Hey I see some phile hale inspiration there eh. Good stuff. Hmm yeah like ink said, they all look similar, unless it is a composition of the same guy. I like the characters though... pretty solid.

[Denart]

Hey Lung!!!

Wow, your only 18 (right?) and your sketches and artworks are just amazing!
You have such a great knowledge of anatomy and form, your technique shows confidence and control.

I'm going to college in a year and your art inspires me to work harder and ya definitly got a new fan here! :bow:

[one2hit]

The sketchbook cover is a sweet idea... how did you get the cover and binding on?

yeah I didn't quite understand your explanation for some reason..can you elaborate : ( if you don't mind doing so.

[Rkhon]

Truly incredible. Makes me wish I got serious about drawing sooner. I've been doing alot of 3D, but there is an appeal about the 2D world.

I'll keep it simple and...

Thank you for the inspiration.

[BadMange]

I've delurked to second the request of a more detailed explanation of how you make your sketchbooks, as I can't seem to picture the process in my noggin. Maybe next time you could post pics of your process, as I'd rather make my own rather than keep buying spiral-bound ones.

Anyone tried Kinko's or CopyMax to see if they do this type of binding?

Anyway, great sketches as usual Lung, good luck with the testing and your college application. I've no doubt you'll get in, as any school would love to have a talent like you. Will you send me your pencil shavings for inspiration??

-Bad Mange

[one2hit]

no, he actually had to buy some sketchbooks...it's just the cover that is custom I believe.

[wi_2]

damn nice work man.. :rock:

if u stil have some i'd reaaly love to see some ur your old drawing..
i mean reaaly old ones when u just began.

its really interesting to see how people began.

damn nice.. ulhg

[keoshi]

I really dig that guy and the other composition too... You're the man!
Could you post other mid/hi-res pic of your sketchbook? I love that work... and, acrylics you say? Awesome, dude! I wanted to ask if you could, for example, show a little how-to-make-a-great-looking-sketchbook like yours... It's kinda hard, isn't it? :(

Well, just keep 'em bombing! GREAT work!

[Lung_bug]

- - -

according to the results of the classification exams, i failed to meet the minimum required on the drawing part. i got 180 points out of 500, whereas 200 was needed. it's interesting to note that people who can't draw a square in perspective got in. one girl said "we need to rotate things in perspective- who can't think about some horizon or shit". she's 6th, i think. during the art history part of the exam cell phones rang and sms's were sent back and forth. custom pencils, rulers, glues, scalpels were also brought in and used. one of the tasks was to make an insect out of hammer paper (thick paper, 300g/m2 i think) and we got scotch tape and stick glue. you can't glue a photo onto a paper with that. after working my ass off on it, i got shat on, because it was too 'illustrative' and 'i wasn't supposed to make an actual insect with texture on the wings and legs and whatnot, but an abstract representation'. of course, this wasn't stated anywhere, previously. my compositions were discarded as 'clueless', and that i take quite personally. my dynamic composition was apparently too chaotic (what, was it so dynamic that it did a full circle and went back to static?). after complaining, i got nowhere. two days of bureocracy and a sore neck. so tired. why am i trying so hard to get in such a college anyway? here's something more to illustrate- some of the teachers from that college hold private classes for preparation for the exams. they tell you what you should do and what you shouldn't; they tell you the criteria that they have when grading ; some even tell exactly what you'll be doing on the exam. people go on such preparations for months. and it's 200$ monthly. at least 25 of the first 30 on the rank list were in such classes. so much for fair play.

fine arts academy is an option, but i need to wait a full year to just give it a shot, and the results will probably be similar, because the same system governs there- pay and you're in. or lose a year. right now i'm tired and angry enough to just want to go home and learn on my own. no bullshit, no papers, no corruption, no ambitious parents. people i need are all here though, they all got in their colleges, i'm a black sheep. it'll probably end up with me going to any college this year, just to stay here, in the big city, preparing for next year. and i'll kick their teeth out then.

this might be the end of chazzwazzers, at least for a while. only partially because of the exam results. need time for myself, to learn and work. i bought some oil paints, going to learn that. need time to meditate and grow. i have a number of projects rolling atm, some of which will be on my site soon. it's been a neglected thing past few months, but summer's here.

so tired here, in this city. a week and i'm totally wrecked. had very little time to draw for myself. very little time for anything. hours are wasted just on public transit, trams; days wasted and then drawing and one am and getting up at 7 to go to see if there's any good news... it's a pitiful existence and need to get away from it. seems, though, that i'll be staying for another week. just the thought makes me feel dilapidated. everything skewed. time to start building walls.

for all you who asked about the sketchbook, i already wrote about that, but you just need two unlined notebooks, use their covers or take some cardboard and glue it all together. gase works good for the spine. be inventive, it's not so hard at all. just use your heads for a bit.

the good war and i.was.ink, thank you for the crits. you both get a cookie.

badmange- adress?

cheers then and keep drawing. DRAW DRAW DRAW.
i'm still here, but in the shadows.

[BadMange]

Lung_-

I'm soooooooo sorry you had that horrible experience, dude! I just finished my degree at a school that will accept anyone with $$, no portfolio review or anything until the end. And even then they'll let you graduate. I studied 3d and with what I paid compared to what I was taught, I learned more from sites like this and CGTalk. Maybe you should just go to uni to stay in the big city, expose yourself to as much art as possible and keep in close contact with ppl who are studying what you're interested in, in other parts of the world (like ppl on this board that are studying concept art). Good luck, just hang in there.

I'll re-read your post about making the sketchbook, that's the last thing you need to explain right now. Chin up.

My address:

Lung_bug's Pencil Shavings
c/o Bad Mange
Past the water pipes
Behind the spot on the wall
Thuurston Penne Point
Quivers
011 3467 65


-Bad Mange

[treeboy]

Lung those people doin the exam or whatever are completely effed up. :mad: You have amazing talent, so never let any number of talentless money whores tell you otherwise. They dont know what they missed.

take time to just relax and renew after this you sound like you need it. And don't stay away too long I need my Chazzwazzer fix.

Ever look at schools stateside? :chug:

[bizarre]

Please don't let that discourage you. You've worked so hard and gotten so far.

You're an inspiration to everyone to work harder, to work to their potential. Thank you for the inspiration.

[Red_Rook]

Holly shit. What afuckin joke.



:bsflag:


ummm my universe just imploded how the fuck can that be?
i failed to meet the minimum required on the drawing part. i got 180 points out of 500


and wait another one


Android
wow lung-

im totaly flattered, you captured my terrible posture perfectely.

i love the cover of you new sketchbook, cant wait to see the riches you discover within it,

keep up the passion, your work is always an inspiration to me .

peace out



dont listen to the art nazi's draw draw draw. Good luck man I hope you can get outa this shit. Personally your work is some ofmy favourite ive ever seen. I feel for ya.
-Rook

[troymcoy]

Yo lung, don't worry about it, from what you say it sounds like you don't need to be at a place like that at all. Fine art sounds like a good idea, and waiting an extra year to apply for that might be what I have to do aswell.

no need to be discouraged at all...its the skills that count, not the piece of paper or recognition of people like that

[goran]

Hi Lung bug, well I can see that the way for the qualification exams in Split and Zagreb stayed the same. Been there done that, and some of my friends too. That was many moons ago so I can see nothing’s change. Same old routine. I can see you got really pissed, and that is good, put that on paper, you know very well how to do that.
crtaj Tonci,samo crtaj.

[keoshi]

Cheer up, dude!
You deserve better than that!
Don't let that thing bring you down... I've been on some f*cked up experiences like that... If you can surpass that little thing it only make you grow bigger inside! Keep up, dude! :thumbsup:

CHEER UP!!!!

[kmscottmoore]

Lung_bug,

In regards to your rejection from the university:

um, dude, you don't fucking need it!! The losers at the college are there because they couldn't make a living doing art.

I'm twice your age, and I have less than half of your ability, yet I still make a pretty good living at the art racket.

If you waste your talent because of your first taste of rejection, it would be a real shame. So, stop feeling sorry for yourself, get off your ass, and go do what you are good at!! Your portfolio will open many more doors to you than a sheepskin ever will.

[Dahsramu]

yo lung, i've been creepin round your sketchbook thread since i joined up on CA, and you have been a great inspiration to keep me drawing. Your most recent news really hit me hard, dogg. The world is a crappy place sometimes.

I'm not gonna say dont let it get you down because I know that's impossible. Just dont let it get you down for too long. If you need support, you know you got it here on CA... we're not just a bunch of avatars - i met a lot of these people at the Austin workshop and they are some of the coolest people around. And we all got ure back, man.

Come back stronger and better than ever, aite?

-Umar

[Blind]

i'm still here, but in the shadows.Lung... it's sad to hear of your recent troubles, but try to keep your chin up! You know you're a gifted artist. We know this to be true as well. It sounds like you tried getting in somewhere which just wasn't a good fit for you, but that doesn't negate your talent in any way. It must be tough to keep that from getting to you in your head, but you have to try. You will find the right place someday... perhaps sooner than you think.

-blind

[metaphysiks]

lucky for us artists, the work we do is all about our portfolio and not the college degree we have so bust your ass and show them that the school doesnt make the artist its the passion that drives us. dont even worry about it.
good luck
meta

[xia]

Chin up, PRODIGY CHILD! Things happened for reason, and most of the time good ones. You meant to be for the bigger things in life. You are the LUNG BUG!!! Your skill is one of the most talented artists I have seen out there in the market...in life the race is long. I know you probably won't get what I say now, but later on...you will.

I have lots of Beer if you need any! Chin UP buddy!

[Ra Havok]

You not getting into an art academy is a travesty. Geez.
That's total bollocks.

Makes you wonder whether it's worth it... What tools teach there if they don't let YOU in?

Very sorry to hear that, Lung . I wish you well.

[S.C. Watson]

Lung, I know anything I say is going to sound hollow and meaningless right now, but I wanted to post anyway.

I am so very sorry you didn't get in. To me, and I think from the posts that are here, that's unbelievable. You are an incredible artist and I've often thought to myself where I would be if I had a tenth of your talent when I was your age (I'm 33, for what it's worth).

I've never had the art eductation, much less college eductation that I should have because of a combined issue of lacking finances and life's events. But I've always just sort of plowed along, teaching myself and trying to build up skills to the best of my ability.

I tried for several years to get various incarnations of a comic syndicated in the newspaper, and got very close several times. I was even on a first name baisis with more than one of the editors. But everytime I was shot down at the last minute without a real reason with usually less than an "I'm sorry". Left standing there with months, and sometimes years, of pages and pages of material laying around my office trying to figure out what the hell I was going to do now was not a feeling that I really want anyone to experience. All I had to show for my efforts was just a bunch of work that didn't go anywhere. Didn't deliver the end result that I was told time and time again they would deliver.

Your skills, your openess, and your willingness to share and move on are all admired.

Take your time. Do what you need to do to get through. We all understand and we're all pulling for you.

Hang in there man. Keep at it. The correct path will open.

Cheers,
~Oregano

[jetpack42]

I can't help think that things will work out for the better. There are probably so many other places you could end up going to school that would be better for you. Failing is hard, but would you even want to go to a school that doesn't seem to even understand basic instruction? It seems like they can't even explain a basic entry exam, how would they teach a mighty artist like you to become powerful...more powerful then i can ever imagine.

i didnt read if somebody mentioned it, but you were talked about several times at the Austin workshop that I overheard. Lots of people would say "have you seen that guy...Lung Bug's sketchbook? He's only 18! He's so good!! damn!!" and everyone would chip in about how they liked your stuff. I'm not just talking about shmucks like me either, coro was talking about how awesome you were to a group of people.

So don't dissapear for too long. Your art is mighty. When they strike you down, two more will take your place...

[the good war]

don't become obsessed with the school you will fail to recognize it's short comings. You one of the three most talented artists i have seen around your age and you've inspired many artists here to work harder, many of whom were already obsessed in the first place.you've opened many doors for alot of people but you might want to become more critical of the school you want to attend because do you think they will be geared toward opening the doors you want to travel through? i don't know the quality of work coming out of this school but it seems like the type of instruction (abstact art) being given at this school doesn't seem like it would all that helpful i think you should look to the art renewal center. they have a list of atelier's around the world they approve of , the best thing is that all the teachers they approve are extremly skilled and atelier's usually have small classes, focus on traditional skills sometimes concept design and are very cheap!

[Big-Dave]

I think oregano said pretty much everything I wanted to, so I'll just say that I think you're one of the best artists I've seen on the forum (and any other I've been to) I seriously thought you were a pro till someone said you were 16. Although I know it probably doesn't mean much to you just now, but if the college sees things that way then maybe you're better off not going. Failing someone at the drawing section of the exam with as much talent as yours makes me wonder just how qualified they really are

Anyway, whatever happens I hope you'll continue to inspire us with your work. Good luck with whatever you decide

- Dave

[Syrogen]

man lung, im so sorry that didnt work out for you. no matter what you do youll always be some freakishly talented genius. art school should barely affect you. look at how much youve grown in 2 years, during the next 4 youre going to be come some magical artistic machine with or without the help of some retarded art college! cheer up and keep drawing!

[keoshi]

One last thing... I forgot to say...



YOU RULE!!!!!!!!!
Keep up, dude!
Don't let yourself down... Keep working, life goes on and you'll succeed awesomely (even more than you do now)!!!!
Cheer up!! :btu:

[imglue]

WOW.... i just saw your thread for the first time and i must say it blew my mind. you are superu coool ...ultrasexy draw beast. :clapping1

have fun, keep it up. ill be keeping an eye on you

[Cocofuppa]

Lung lung lung, I have a few things to say, Art colleges do NOT neccesserily make you a better artist/sculptor/illustrator or whatever. You are an absolutley AMAZING illustrator lung, and should be damn bloody proud of what you talent and passion you have for your art.

When I applied to my local art college, I didn't get in, and couldnt understand it. I had always had top marks in all my art related stuff before, and was baffled. Then I saw the degree show this summer, and OH BOY, what a load of utter crap it was, so bad that I quite frankly laughed at it, and realized wtf, im better than this pretencious rubbish, im gonna start a business!

So my point lung, is that you are probably too good for the college, you are not as raw as other potential students, and you are probably ready to be employed NOW with the skills you have!

Dont stop drawing, your work is very inspiring, I mean just look at how popular your thread IS? Threads dont get 10's of thousands of viewers for no reason! CHIN UP :D

Peace

[prawda]

well i never thought that u could miss a drawing exam .in my eyes u are a full-educated artist which doesnt need any stupid exams ....

thats a typical example of how school can kill creativity : they tell u exactly what the result should look like. if it looks like that , u are good if it doesnt and u had enough courage for think on your own and bring some ideas u miss because it isnt exactly what the teachers wanted u to do ... the stupid win the creative lose ...

:(

anyway life goes on and :chug:

[wi_2]

i agree with coco..
let the suckers be..

u totaly rule!!

don't give in.. it's their fault.
u ARE just too good!
just do your thing..

and get famous

for us u already are..

[one2hit]

*sigh* cheer up mate. I'm 20, and I've only just started to draw. I can't go to art school until next year...and that's maybe, if I can develope my ability enough and raise my poor acedemics from my previous life of weary stumbling. : / You're still young so no worries. I love your art.

[elboy]

I can't do much more than reiterate what's been said, but here I go anyway. Sounds to me like the odds are against you w/ the school accepting the kids who took the private lessons. That's pretty unfair, but there's not too much that can be done about that. College degrees (particularly from certain schools) are great, but at the end of the day your work will be more important than whichever school you attended.
I'm just adding my voice to the crowd: sorry about the bs and keep on keep on working. draw draw draw, right?

[Famboozled]

HOLY FUCK, hey man i usually dont post anything in your thread because I just love to simply gaze and admire your work, but that is the most bullshit ive ever heard, what in the fuckin hell is wrong with those pricks, HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET 180 out 500, these people are on crack! Im so sorry dude, all the people here at CA absolutely love your work and we all know that youre exxxxxtreemely talented, man you should consider coming to the US and studying here, I bet any school will give you a scholarship and you can own everyone at school, then later you can tell those pricks how successful youve become. FUCK THEM, YOU FUCKIN ROCK!

peace! hope things turn out better, i think we should all write a petition saying how fuckin great you are, bastards!!!

EDIT: sorry about all the profanity, im just pissed, what everyone has said here is great, just look ahead man youll be great!

[TheDirtSyndicate]

hey lung,
thats why they invented molotov coctails.

but seriously....is there no one you can talk to? like a dean or something?
i mean damn. your like the best artist i've seen ever. especially for your age.

what a fucking joke. good luck

[Nimrod]

Hey Lung Bug!

I'm glad to hear your response to all this trouble and b.s. is to keep drawing. You have got your real priorities straight, and you will be one of the masters the rest of us look up to one day soon (like your not already :D).

I just wanted to say over here on the other side of the ocean we have to put up with this stuff to. I need an advanced drawing credit to complete a minor in drawing and painting. At my university you have to pass a portfolio review to get into an advanced class. I brought all my figure drawings which I had made for the lower level university classes (and made excellent marks on) and a few personal artworks and life studies (quite a lot of material) and laid it out on the floor surrounded by all the sophomore and freshman goofy abstract paintings and color collages. Not to say there weren't any deservedly good painters and artists there, but still, about 90% was that other stuff. I got a lot of the other artists coming by and admiring my work.

Suffice to say, I didn't get in. Not a big deal, since they now offer an advanced course for art minors that does not require any review to get in. I know its not as bad as what you seemed to have to put up with, but I thought I'd share it anyway. I think this will foster some great advances in your art... I hope you will share them with us in the future.

[aum]

Taste of the real world eh? I swear the bureaucracy of art institutions is sickening sometimes even at my school in Las Vegas. This is what you should take from your experience (this is coming from someone who is very dedicated to school and fine arts). First, every artist that comes out of an institution does not become good or famous, which you know. Second, there is a system to everything, and if you learn it, albeit its repulsive nature, you will win. Now as you know there are several artists who never went to school and are truly amazing successes and there are those with their masters that are jokes. If you decide on getting into school this is what you will take (because you have enough talent to not go to school, which is a viable option). You will learn the ability to work with peers, you will earn a piece of paper stating that you stuck to something (important for work), you will broaden your horizon of artistic knowledge which may be daunting or frustrating at first, and you will learn that people suck, especially low-grade people who have been given high-grade positions, and that you are a pawn in their politics, BUT you will learn how to play with them, and I think that is one of the key ingredients to becoming successful in the real world. There is more ego in the art community than any other profession so its best to get used to it now. The entrance exam is a perfect example of ego. I can say that what I've learned in school is 80% how to deal with people and learning how to network and 20% actual education. There are very few professors at my school who can teach me something that a book can't. They are my blessed few that I run to. Other than them, I am dealing with how not to piss off the institution and learning how to prove myself so that I can show my work and have it praised. This is a fine art school, so its not always about the technical ability of the student, but about their fundemental idea they are trying to push through a gallery. Remember that. Fine art school is not illustration school.

Which leads me to my next segway. I am unsure as to what type of school you applied to but it seems to me that if you want to improve your drawing, and do not want to enter the wacky world of galleries, then an illustrator school would be best for you. I for one wish we had one here. All we have is the Art Institute which charges you 5 times the price of the university and gives you 1% of the education, beware of these places. But cheer up mate. Andrew Loomis, one of my all time favorite illustrators/idols was turned away from art school when he first started. But he had that same endearing attitude that you have (which is above all the most important quality you possess, not just in art but in life) and he went off to be one of the most influential illustrators of his time. So when one door closes another opens, its up to you to step through.

My suggestion to you right now is to set a goal. A goal is the best consolation to a difficult time. But the decision, the door, will determine what that goal is. Have you looked at the work that the school you just applied for produces? Including the professors work? If you are impressed, begin studying their way. If not, forget em, no point in wasting your time. Either find a school that impresses you or find a job that impresses you. Set a goal towards either and you will find yourself in a good position sooner than you think. You are young, do not worry about college so much. Establish yourself first. I have faith in your character that you will attend college even if you take some time off. With that, I must say good luck, and keep your chin up. You have a lot to learn and that is the beauty of it all. Keep it in perspective. 10 years from now you will be laughing at how you didn't get into school and where you've gone since then.

Long winded. Good times.
-len

[van]

- - -

according to the results of the classification exams, i failed to meet the minimum required on the drawing part. i got 180 points out of 500, whereas 200 was needed. it's interesting to note that people who can't draw a square in perspective got in. one girl said "we need to rotate things in perspective- who can't think about some horizon or shit".

Just another reason why I am happy to say I never have nor will I ever go to an art school. And you should be, too.

No one can teach you how to show your soul.

You have the talent. And thats whats needed. Run with it.

[jester]

Please don't let that discourage you! You :rock:!

Jester

[dakoscwash]

Don't let that bullshit get you down man. You and us both know that your skills, both observational and conceptual are faar beyond your age. Just keep honing your craft and creating your masterpieces. That's probably not a place you wanna be if thats how they score anyway. Hang in there and just keep drawing man. Good things shall happen to you.

[Kasper_P]

"I've gone of the idea of progress, it's overrated"...

Yeah man, they don't know about your huge talent. Just keep on going and you will take over the world and they will only be slaves withut will..... Or something? :balloon:

[liam.c]

man dont let it bother u one bit
the main thing u get out of art school is to be in a comunity of people that are doing the same thing as u but u have that here as well as many profesonals to give direction

i have to say i spent a full day .. for real a full day going over your daily sketch book and it got me so excited i started one aswell

when i was 21 i started drawing and it was total crap i meen it was shit .at that point i went to an art college here and applyed .. got in and thay told me i would get a half scholer ship .. well for waht ever reason i jsut couldnt come up with the other half of the cash so didnt go <... how i was even excepted is byond me cuz i had 0 skill >
some one had told me that every one can get in and get mony for the first year ... then thay dump 90% of the students <at that school any way >

much later about hmm ... maby 7 or 8 years i did have skills .. and was working at a game company <sadly it went out of biznuss after 911 thing, and the game never got made > well one of the fellas i worked with was going to a school for illustration down there and got me intrested
so i went and brought some things and spoke to a counsler
basicly this councler guy took a shit on me and it was pretty much the same deal .. why doint u go to this thing .. costs x and it will probly help ya get in ... at that point is said screw it and did probly the same as u right now


at any rate ... school is defently nice but for this particular gig .. your work speeks for it self .your doing exactly waht you would at school right now . and you have feedback from peers and professonals right here ...
and the work shops ... man to see peoples art comeing out of them .. wow ive seen more progress in thease threads after one of those then many people i know after there first 3 years of art school

i under stand the frustration you probly feel right now .. living as an artest and haveing it as your main love and job is hard for most people to understand ...people treet it as a nice hobby or some such .. never understand the love and effort that goes into makeing a pic some one would probly look at for 1 min at the most <nonartest of corse>... so u figure ahhh! now im gnna try to go to shcool and at last people will appreciate all the work ive done .. and of corse you get mixed up in some bs like that ... so its 10 times more discourgeing


honestly if you wanted to start working right now you could imo ,take your best stuff send it off to all the rpg companys out there and you will be in print in no time <all the while still working on becomeing better >and when thay send you your first book or you see your stuff at the local book store u can give the big FU to those cats at that school with a big smile on your face


please keep posting :) you put me into overdrive with motivation ! i meen it mate !
have a look at my daily sketch book mate the only reason i made it was cuz u got me soo excited after seeing yours ... dont know if i can keep up with 5 per day but im gunna try ! thanks lung for showing all your great stuff !

[obid619]

wow man. :realmad: being a real big fan of your art, i swear that whole fiasco you went through was really bullshit :grumble: i cant believe you didn't get in. All i can say is that all those people there need to be slapped in the face. its like unfairly super duper unfair . like words can't express it. I sometimes see myself buying a book of all your art. I vision that you will be super famous with all your art, and i hope maybe you can sign that book for me if you ever get to the states. THAT will teach those bastards. it'll be like a slap in the face. dude just forget about them. pretend it never happened and just continue what you are doing. your art has an element that i believe is very absent from most drawings. It is that your art entertains. yes, I actually get entertained with your art. Once you make a portfolio just submit, submit, submit. many of the greatest comic book artists have recieve hundreds and hundre]ds of rejection letters before they are propelled to greatness. you, my friend, will be a great (if not already) artist. and, i'd love to say more, maybe on AIM or something, whatever. peace out, and shovel some crud on those judges faces :mumble:

[PelleTM]

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/totalcrap.jpg

This made me laugh out loud which I almost never do! Damn that's hilarious. Your sketchbook rocks! Anyone who claims you can't draw is so obviously full of it.

[brkofdon]

dont worry man! art colleges..well actually all college..tend to be a bit skewed and F'd up! i personally think education should be free. money is such a huge issue. im at my 4th year at the art institute of portland, OR. and will be done in the fall. and i study animation..and only have taken 3 traditional 2d animation classes!!! only 3! in the 4 years ive been here. pretty friggin weak. but this school im going to is more into digital and 3d stuff..so i dunno (im sure there are a million ppl in these forums that can easily tell you there negative stories about art school). dont let those mofos bring you down. i think it might be better to hit up a university maybe..and just get exposed to things like was mentioned..i dunno just keep your head up, its pretty surprising how weird that exams guidlines are..strange...indeed

ya the reality of it all is that everything is a bit f'd up, when i got into art school my expectations were so big, but turned into crap hehe. just remember the GOAL IS GREATER THAN THE STRUGGLE!!!!

go take a rest..have fun! dont stress out too much! and keep that pencil moving....you are still very young!

you lose some you win some

[El Diabolito]

...but moreover, you have all my best wishes and support. i can tell you now, that i have walked the path...from raw talent, to private arts college, to professional...and RARELY do i ever see someone with such amazing skill, ability and talent.
from my own experiences, i can safely say that an arts college for someone of your ability and drive is somewhat of a redundancy. it appears to me that you have all the ambition and motivation to continue growing as an artist. having a degree is no REAL reflection of that simple truth. if anything it only states that you managed to survive the bulls**t and burn-out, talentless professors who haunt such institutions; and worse yet, that you are thousands of dollars in debt due to loans and other school related costs.
i went to a pretty well know school for traditional animators, and you know what? i never graduated. but as i said before, the diploma or whatever was no reflection of my learning. i ran out of money. i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth so i had to find work. at first i got a wage job at starbux...slingin' frappacinos, lattes and whatnot for the suburbanite working class...on my off times i just worked on my art...practiced...honed my skill.
eventually i landed a job doing 3d animation for a videogame company...

one thing i can say for sure is that if you seek being a professional artist there are many areas you can look. furthermore, those who are doing the hiring don't usually give a flying f**k at the moon where you went to college...they want to see your skill, they're looking at your work, your portfolio, and your desire to do the best job you can.

sometimes you may be interviewed by an artist or art director, but lemme' tell you right now, any artist who doesn't recognize your latent talents and ability is a charlatan and a burn-out.

keep kickin' a$$, i have no doubt in you. being a pro in no way means that i am the best...and the trade off of being a professional is that most of the time your creative energies are spent at work, leaving you with little to come home with at the end of the night. it's young up-and-comers such as yourself and others on this site that inspire me and drive me to keep growing, drawing, and practicing.

otherwise i'd be a burn-out.

for that i thank and commend you. you are inspirational.
rock on!

~B-)

[Slash]

teach us more about the lives of the real ninja!!! :realmad:

[Angela]

hey lung,
sorry you didnt get in.. hope you feel better.. come back soon.. you deserve more than that! you probably kick everyones ass... but hey.. dont worry!we'll miss you!!! we all need your wonderful art to inspire ussss! so dont forget about us =)

we'll be here waitin for your art again!!! :yummy:

[metalwinds]

hey lung, im going to have to agree with aum. for me, college (i attend a university with a strong art program) has been a very good experience. .. .i have learned much as an artist, but i have also learned much as a person. . .and i know i will learn much more in the 2 years i have left. i hope this whole experience hasnt turned you off of going to school. ..there are many good art schools out there with teachers that you will learn a lot from, you just have to look around for them. when they didnt accept you, all that means is that you werent meant for that school. in fact, it was better that they turned you down because if they didnt, you would have to deal with that shit all the time. .which wouldnt help you grow as an illustrator.

anyway, dont get too discouraged. .. .what illustrator wants to attend a money-grubbing elitest fine art school anyway... :barfing:

[steak-tron]

hear hear lung. Sounds like that school didn't deserve your talent, It would be 4 more years of the same depressing garbage. Thats the way I felt when I was taking my foundation art courses with spacey art teachers.

You will find your way. This is only the beginning.

[afklamer]

nothing changed ...

lung bug > all

Live is pain, there are allways idiots you will meet... dont let them get you

Anyway why go to college? Some real field expirence might be much more worth after 4 years your 22, then youre skilled got knowlege about how the whole corruption/buisnes shit works and the worlds gonna be yours ...

[maxetormer]

:wtf: dam that is bad news man!!!
It really never crossed my mind that
you would not be accepted !!!!!

That is hightily unfare I can assure you that at my university any
I mean any teacher would worship your abilities and you would have
entered with no sweat, I even show up your sketch book to some of
my class mates and friedns to make them see that practice makes perfect.
You are a a example to follow man, I tell ya that i beigan to draw
with more dicipline just afer I saw your images and the art you
have releazed has never stoped to amaze me.

From all my classmates on my poster desing class the one person
that I belive is the best, tried to get on an university on the capital
citiy of my country, and he got rejected; then he camed at
my univesity and and he got in on the first try, and dam I could not
think of a reason, of how in the name of god, he did not got accepted on
that univesity on the capital city, becase he is very, very good, now
that fellow and i are on our last semester on the university, he applied
for two mayor contests of poster design and he won both of them,
so what I am tring to say here is that the important thing is to keep
tring to get into the university, some time it is unexplainable why
some fellows enters and whay some get rejected.
IMO I just do not get the way some teachers grade some of my
work, most of the times personal tastes make the judgmet of
teachers very burry and shady.

Do not worry, you are dam good and I aspire to have
your ability skills and dicipline

:D you will get to study in not time :D


P. S. and those pre-test courses you mentined do make you life easier
becase in those courses they show you allmost all the things that
the teachers want to see you doing, they teach nothing of real value,
but in the full of burocrasi world in which we live that courses migth help
you out to survive eaisier, once you get in the unversity your will find
out that some teachers are good and some bad and that the real learing
comes from your own determination to work, but you already know all this
so you will have no problem on becoming a master painter :D

keep it up :D :D :thumbsup: :chug:

[Yiako]

Damn. I feel so bad for you, man. This is shit.
Don´t let it stop you. Your talent is amazing.

[Sam0s]

once you've achieved the greatness thats comin to you, be sure to mention this to all the fans n' artists in all the magazines you'll be featured.

you're already an amazing artist, this will not hinder whatever extaordinary artist They would have takin part in molding.

whatever choice you decide to take, you KNOW you'll end up wherever you've wished for and struggled for. and I know so, thats why i see this as a minor stepback, it relieves me and I hope you find relief in this.

now go brush your shoulders off, They aint shit.

[gekitsu]

lung... this whole story f your is an utter joke. reminds me of the people i saw when i went to an art school type of thing around here. all noses high, super artsy, but had endless discussions about the simplest perspective things ("no, but i think this here is the frontmost thing... and so it does have not the horizon of this thing back there").

i say, take your year off, grow more and maybe show them what you are made of. dont be too disappointed. these guys obviously have no idea... and are elitist asses. i think someone of your skills shouldnt bother about those people who obviously dont deem perspective knowledge to be important (it prolly inhibits their natural art flow when they know too much) or dont see the value in someone recreating something to the core without reference.
this is the kind of elitist art guy i think so many literature people are: something that is entertaining often isnt too deep. so it is deemed shallow, and for literature to be deep, it must (mandatory!) be a pain to read.

people like you should stand above them and laugh down at their pitiful state of mind, not worry about them.

im with you, mate.

[Gillespie]

Lung, you have tremendous ability. Just hone it, and wait for a chance to arise. Since Massive Black is hiring, I'd say get YOU, but I also think since you're not older, studying a different subject, which you can make use of later would benefit you more, since you could be closer to your friends.
Anyhow, I hope you get through it ok, and I'm going to follow your progress, just like all the rest.

[spok]

their fuckin loss man...
you're fuckin amazing man, and you know it...look at it this way, with this experience you saw how these people are, all about the dinero, and you gotta ask yourself, do you really wanna be studying with these ass-munchers?

[Hexal]

Hey lung thats to bad, I see no reason you shouldnt have gotten into college, the skill are there for sure. I hope after my first year of college to be as comfortable with my drawings and art in general as you seem to be.

[Lung_bug]

thanks for the support guys, it means a lot. don't think i'm discouraged, because i'm not. even more set on my path now. just got home about an hour ago and spent a few minutes with my pens and brushes and it felt so much more real than anything in the previous week. anyways, there's no college here that fits my idea, except for fine arts maybe, but seeing their output of academic artists for the past 20 years, it's mostly abstract-self-proclaimed-expressionist bullshit, so no good. i might go to architecture for a year, pick up some tricks there, work freelance on the side. my cunning plan is to get filthy famous and then shit all over these people and drive them into collective suicide. just kidding. maybe.

-lung
still breathing

[Loga4]

Sorry folks I don`t know English very well,so I will
say this to Lung on Serbo/Croatian:
Imas moju podrsku,naravno.Ne dozvoli da te budale
``ohlade`` od crtanja....a vidim da nece.
Isto je i ovde u Beogradu....veze i pare.Ne znam tacno sta
mislis o crtanju stripova,ali po tvojim crtezima koje vidim
na forumu ti bi bez imalo frke mogao da uletis da crtas
za neku Francusku izdavacku kucu....U Beograd redovno
dolazi vas crtac stripova Tico a i Goran Sudzuka se cesto
dopisuje sa nekim nasim crtacima,a i Darko Macan....Mislim da
Sudzuka vec radi za Delcourt,a radio je i za Amere...
anyway,ako zelis mogu da ti dam i kontakt sa Csabom Kopetckim
koji je progurao nekoliko crtaca iz Juge kod Francuza(a mislim i Sudzuku,ali nisam 100% siguran)samo reci,a i moj novi
projekat je kod njega i cekam odgovor takodje od Delcourta....tacnije
vec su mi rekli da treba neke izmene da napravim,pa cemo videti....
Tako slicno kao ti sam i ja prosao pre jedno 7 godina,ali sam naleteo
veoma brzo na Skolu Stripa i na Bikic studio za animaciju,tako da sam ``ublazio`` nerviranje zbog ne ulaska na Akademiju......
Mozda i nije losa ideja da upises neki drugi faks,kao Arhitekturu i da probas
da uletis na strip trziste,jer kinta koju daju je za nase uslove,a cujem i za Hrvatske fenomenalna,a kazem ti sa tvojim znanjem i idejama koje vidim to ti nece biti tesko.A Mozda mozes da pokusas i da posaljes portfolio nekoj game kompaniji....Razmisli.
Nas studenski kulturni centar za septembar je ponovo raspisao medjunarodni konkurs za strip...slobodna tema....do 4 strane....tehnika je po izboru....negrada
je 500 evrica....bice gostiju iz francuske....Brajan Boland(strip crtac iz Engleske) i jos njih...mozda dodje i Tico....znaci eto jos jedna sansa za prezentaciju.....ako hoces poslacu ti adresu i uslove za konkurs,mada sam ti glavno vec rekao.

[Red_Rook]

thanks for the support guys, it means a lot. don't think i'm discouraged, because i'm not. even more set on my path now. just got home about an hour ago and spent a few minutes with my pens and brushes and it felt so much more real than anything in the previous week. anyways, there's no college here that fits my idea, except for fine arts maybe, but seeing their output of academic artists for the past 20 years, it's mostly abstract-self-proclaimed-expressionist bullshit, so no good. i might go to architecture for a year, pick up some tricks there, work freelance on the side. my cunning plan is to get filthy famous and then shit all over these people and drive them into collective suicide. just kidding. maybe.

-lung
still breathing


Sounds like a pretty good plan lung. Go for it. I mean look at marco for gods sake. :hmm:

[keoshi]

yeah yeah yeah, Lung!
I'm really happy to know that you think that way, that's extremely positive!
You're going to shit on them, I know :hh:
Keep up dude, don't ever, Ever, EVER stop drawing and producing such an awesome and inspirational work!
We're all with you. :jump1:

[ceenda]

Hi Tonci,

I remember when we used to go for the occasional OC session a few years back. Your current skill level is very much where I would like to have been if I had put in the amount of dedication and work that you've put into your artistic talents.

Perhaps when I go part-time at work, I'll try and get back into it again, but your work here is always an inspiration for me, not just the style and accuracy, but the designs and concepts that go into them. Still get the same buzz browsing through these sketchbooks, daily or not.

Much beer to you.

Oh, and have this emoticon, I think he's cute: :jump1:

[abyss]

[QUOTE=Lung_bug]it felt so much more real than anything in the previous week.

while thanks for that :/

joking fcourse :)
see how much all these people love you?sum it together, times 2 after reading this :)

[Kaoki]

my cunning plan is to get filthy famous and then shit all over these people and drive them into collective suicide. just kidding. maybe.

-lung
still breathing

now that sounds like a bloody good plan, you go girl! errr ;)

[TheDirtSyndicate]

this thread has turned to utter mush.

[S.C. Watson]

my cunning plan is to get filthy famous and then shit all over these people and drive them into collective suicide. just kidding. maybe

-- no no - that's a good plan. Seriously.

Okay. Well maybe not.













No. Scratch that. It's good. Go for broke.
~Oreg.

[winjer]

hey lung check out this guy http://www.kordey.ca/ His bio says he started some kind of studio in croatia. Maybe you could try to get a job with them or go to wherever he went to school. His work is pretty good if you look in the covers and graphic design sections.

[Lung_bug]

loga4: mogao bih se uhvatit i napravit jedan strip pa (kad i ako) ga zavrsim, onda cu te zamoliti za podatke tog konkursa... eto u istom mjesecu je i CRŠ ovamo, ali to je samo jedna stranica. kakav bi ja bio čovjek kad ne bi pet stranica stripa mogao u mjesec dana :)

red rook: i still need to pick up heavy drinking ;)

keoshi: nothing will stop me from drawing... cerebral paralysis, maybe ; but definitely not going to stop because of random abstract artfarts

ceenda: hey man, long time no see. thanks the key with working is to secretly draw there. i just started helping out at an insurance agency few days back and have had quite a bit of fun learning informal composition and some other loomis bits :) and yeah that's a fun smiley- i like this one :chug: cheers, mate

abyss: :foundlove: :cuddle: secret love in a public forum... mmm... :D

kaoki: how did you know?

complete2: i guess. you want art dontcha? plug: hpx's thread. i'm not posting because atm i don't think i have anything worth posting (really) and when i get some stuff i'm happy with i'll gladly update. till then, however-

oregano: after reading that post several times i still can't make it out... maybe i should make a cunning plan that includes you... ;)

winjer: that guy's a celebrity here- his LOTR covers are one of the things that made me do all this (draw). he lives in canada now, tho, and has a studio there and is quite hard to reach. also very busy with drawing comics and whatnot (he was working for marvel until recently... new x-men and cable i think)


http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/comp.gif
working at work, preparing for real work... feh

cheers

[Syrogen]

hoorah! an update, i have no idea whats going on in that page but hell, it looks cool. :D more more more please

[endregan]

thats my boy. Dont get anything stop ya

[abyss]

:smirk: yeah :) :love:

[oDD]

yo Lung.

I just read the (old) news about college, and i can relate (i haven't pass the exams myself this year and decided to not care about official education anymore) I just wanted to say i'm one of the many fans of your work and i'm 100% sure that you will make it as an artist. Keep inspiring us all.

[mogando25]

Is that a composition study? What's it say?

[keoshi]

Yeah, dude!!
Glad to see you back and with new work! :clapping2 :jump1:
Don't ever stop!! Promise me! ;)

[spok]

yey! we love ya lung bug!

HOSPITAL FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!...
:batman:

[TheDirtSyndicate]

i was just reading somewhere about how these medical people were conducting tests, and one of the tests was to show a group of people some photos of people with gum desiese.
the first group was showed photos that were of mild cases, and that group didnt' really change their brushing habbits.
the second group was showed photos of pretty bad cases, and that group started brushing more, and flossing.
the third group was showed photos of the worst cases, you know, gums peeling, teeth black and breaking off and falling out.....well, that group stopped flossing and brushing altogeather. they gave up.

maybe thats what happened to you lung.
they saw your work, and saw how good it was, and were like, "well shit, i cant teach this kid anything. fuck it. your not admitted to this college."

does that make any sense? or did i just waste my 15 min typing that?

[BadMange]

It took you 15 min to type that? Dude, ya gotta use more than your index fingers to type! LOL!

[TheDirtSyndicate]

i was thinking while typing it. turd.
haha
i can actually type 45 to 50 wpm.

hehe

[draw]

Lung

I say everyones comments are seconded by me

forget them

YA ROOOOL

DRAW DRAW DRAW

I just wish there were even more chazzwazzers
between numerous comments of homage
(if possible)
pleeez!!! I NEED DAILY INTAKES

[liam.c]

ha! you know man you have the most viewed sketch book on the site ! :O

[Lung_bug]

that never ceases to amaze me

*out to draw*
^^

[Lung_bug]

two crude wips

http://lungbug.ice.org/~sideways/Untitled-3.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/~sideways/001.jpg

700
yay

[Calle_]

OO
Good to see u updating =)
Peace

Calle

[liam.c]

whora! thats waht im talking about ! soo nice mate ) :D

[Lono]

oh man,,, this new piece is AMAZING!

*bows down*

-Lono

[maxetormer]

Lovely ligth on the orange monster, solid work :D
The caracter with the tatu on the neck,
I think the neck it is bit too long, and the mouth looks
a bit of prespective as well, (the design of the tatu
looks good tho) keep updating the thread man ^^

[Taj]

I emailed you awhile ago, and managed to find you on Conceptart, a site i usually lurk at.


Lung i study your work, and its really 60% of what i think about when i draw. You are my biggest influence right now.

[AmadorL]

the texture and style of painting on that monster looks tught dude....

-A

[Kasper_P]

Really great textures on that monster-thingy... Glad to see you updating.

[metaphysiks]

can we get a process on this new piece?
its looking good right now, would love to see how you went about it.
nice use of texture. good to see your still working at it.
meta

[jester]

Lung, what you call crude wips I'd call finished and by happy. Very nice eyecandy!

Jester

[Angela]

hey lung! the monster is totallllly awesomeeeeeee!!! i just cant describe how awesome it is!!! i second meta's thought! we need to see the process ^_^

and the girl with the tatoo is awesome.. i do think the neck is a little long though.. but it seems stylish at the same time.. so it's koo! keep updating! you also influence my work alot! hope to see more art soon lung!

[arghmisfit]

yah that dino rocks! i like how the arm is like stiched on :D

[twitch]

In the true sense of the word.

Now I'm gonna go draw something. Thanks Man, hang in there on the school thing. Schools are a lot like girls, there actually -is- more than one of 'em.

Just keep drawin and postin dude.

May beauty reside with you and peace within.
Twitch

[southerncomfort]

I am awe struck --- great movement, great balance on the weight, great compo, great design and colours.... looking forward to see the final. Or are you gonna leave it that way!! Master piece!!... but just a thought.... the exoskeleton (the diamond shapes) on the body look kindof fragile...

[buzzz3d]

Wow, great values on the creature.

[I.was.ink]

Hot diggity!
That color wip is looking damn nice Lung. I cant wait to see it finished!:D
How long have you spent on it so far?

btw, what did you mean by 700 yay?

-Iwasink

[Lung_bug]

huzzah, the monster is liked! that gives me optimism- it's one of the pieces i'll be sending around to rpg companies. also glad you peeps like the texture. it's one of the things that's been lacking in my stuff and am trying to get at it nowadays.

also, massive amounts of luvin to davi, for crits and bitchin

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maxetormer: yeh, the neck is long, that was intentional but maybe i pushed it too much. it's just a sketch tho and won't be used as a final one. mouth are off indeed. thanks!

taj: wow. that kinda makes me feel old. :) j/k i'm flattered that you learn from my stuff. i guess i'll have to make my little notes more legible.

metaphysiks: i didn't save that many steps of this thing, but i have a pencil drawing and an early version of the painting, will that do?
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/munster.jpg

jester: this one's already going kinda tight... i might just fix a few things and leave it be. thanks :)

angela: :D

arghmisfit: i have reference photos even, for that kind of stuff. didn't use it this time though. was messing with some brushes and seemed like a nice touch :)

twitch: "Now I'm gonna go draw something" - that makes me feel all warm inside (in a non-sexual way)

southerncomfort: indeed the exoskeleton is quite wonky. will fix0r it. thanks!

buzzz3d: values are the easy part...

i.was.ink: 3-4 hours maybe. didn't measure / had visitors while painting / took about a million breaks. and it was 700 posts. yay. :)

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two stuffs from work this morning
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/work001.jpg
(that figure in there is no ref, others are randomly reffed from loomis / hogarth / poster on my wall)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/work002.jpg

[liam.c]

christ L> soo much skill ... damn my sketch book feels soo puny lol .. i allmost feel like i should be paying you to post haha
keep going i think your like the back bone of the whole daily sketch book forum

[davi]

great stuff man, i love the anatomy studies, whenever i do them though i find myself just 'copying' i gotta do them more often with a 'thinking' attitude, can see you are doing that just...jealous davi...

[troymcoy]

The monsters skin is great, and I agree the fins/exoskeleton looks fragile, perhaps take the fin on the nose off.
Hogarth is good..although I don't like his style, he's a good teacher.
cool studies

[Syrogen]

you have managed to put awesomeness in sketchbook form. those anatomy studies are really awesome!
one tiny tiny tiny crit though. i really like the detail of the monsters jaw in the pencil drawing, but in your painting that detail is kinda lost in the dark.
anyway, keep us updated, i need a cetain amount of lung in my blood each day

[Taj]

hogarth= bad bad bad bad bad in my experiance.

[Lung_bug]

correct muscles + hogarth's simplification & dynamics = win
it's like a puzzle. put the right bits there. hogarth has some obviously wrong stuff but as long as i can see through it, it's ok.

i didn't get bridgeman yet, tho. soon.

[Taj]

Civardi, now theres a genius.

[Lung_bug]

ah. i forgot to write civardi's "drawing human anatomy" in there. didn't use it on these, but i have it. and it really is a nice book

[xia]

Hey Prodigy Child!!! That creature is pretty slick!!! The way you painted...give it so much dimention and life.

Salut to the PRODIGY CHILD!!! 8)

[troymcoy]

It think it was Marko who said Hogarth was, in his opinion, the best source of exaggerated anatomy. Learning it this way helps you know where everything is, then you can reduce...studying your own body in the mirror alot, helps to learn to reduce, unless you're arnold or Mr T.
Bridgeman is pretty good too...
Anyway, sorry to spam your thread lung.

It would be great to see another chazzwazzer painting tutorial :mustache:

[Lung_bug]

liam.c: now that's an interesting idea... ;) checked yer sketchbook and it's quite fine. liar.

davi: it's not hard. just need to put the pen down to the paper.

troymccoy: i'll work on it tomorrow, have some ideas that should make it work. also, same attitude about hogarth

syrogen: crit? crit?! ...thanks! :D "tiny tiny tiny"... sheesh.

xia: *raises glass* heh, thanks :)

troy: nothing to be sorry about- i enjoy hearing smart stuff from better artists... it's such a joy when it turns out the be your thoughts exactly, heh. i'll post a step-by-step of the next one; need to do a few more these days.

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more crud! a couple of sketches in my A6-sized sketchpads... first one old, second one from work. not thinking much in either. just doodlin:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sketchus.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/human-girl.jpg

toodle-pip!

[Taj]

Can you make your pages a bit bigger when posting, just so i can read what your lil' comments.

[Spacey]

It's damn good to see you truckin' along again. Your stuff is so inspiring and very helpful (I find myself coming back to your studies to learn little things). Don't ever stop plzkthnx ~<3

[obid619]

ahhh, yes. this is living proof that Mr. Lung Bug owns us. Dude, if one day i get at your level, then you might as well become another da vinci or comic book legend (like jim lee or todd macfarlane)...then i'll shit in meh pantsz. Well, i might just never reach it. >.< keep doing what you know best = "draw,draw,draw" heh . :)

[Marko Djurdjevic]

Hey Tonci,

I just read what happened to you when you tried to apply at art school.
Sorry man.
If it cheers you up any, then you should know that back in time when I applied for artschool, I barely got in. I got the worst entry of all. 6,1 points out of 15. You needed at least 6 points to get in. During the following two semesters I desperatly tried to figure out why the hell everyone in my year got a better entry grade even if none of them could draw to save their life. I realized that I was beating down my professors in art skill and education at any time. But they couldn't stand it and they made me do even more silly things. It started hurting their egos. Constantly they tried to spit on my talents and keep me under a thumb. When still life drawing came up as a lesson, I was the only student who wasn't allowed to choose a topic but was reduced to draw a pack of ciggarettes over and over again. After 2 semesters I broke up and went freelance. I had realized that I lost a year to a school that wouldn't be able to teach me anything, that I couldn't learn on my own. This is exactly the same thing you need to know. You can reach everything by yourself as long as you're focused enough. No one will ever ask you for a degree later anyway. Keep doing it your way. Keep pure and keep the spirit. You will make it without art school, whenever you fucking want to.

Cheers
Marko

[obid619]

I have one good question: How do you do your studies without getting bored. I try to do studies, but i fall apart shorty after. Do you see a problem in my methods. how can i fix this insignificant problem? thanks dude, Obid :D

[xia]

Freaking Awesome! Prodigy Child!!! Glad to see you back on regular schedule. You are my HUGE inspiration!!! You are actually the guy who inspired me to pick up pencil and draw again at the very first time I saw your thread.
Awesome panel work/comp by the way!

[liam.c]

waht she said ^^^ for real lol your the main reason i started the daily sketch book !

[Red_Rook]

i think weve coined a new term here, so true though
Prodigy Child!!!


hehe, awesome work lung. :)

[The Bear]

Nice work once again Lung. :wink:

[van]

Awesome shit. The only crit I have at the moment is that there is too much talking and not enough drawing in this thread. :perv: :confident :wink:

[Lung_bug]

taj: i tried in this post (tho i think you guys would be disappointed with how trivial the written stuff is most of the time)

spacey: thanks dude, glad you can learn from it

obid: you have no idea... i'm just getting started :) heh. well, we'll see what happens

marko: hey, you're alive! that's some nasty experience there, and pretty much the same conclusion like i made few weeks back. needed something (rationalization or whatever the word) to help me so i resorted to 'screw em'. looking back at the past few years, and reading your words makes me more confident about it. :confident:

obid: the key is, as i said many times before, to have fun. it might seem hard to throw fun into a femur study but it is possible. draw funny stuff around it. draw skeleton sex. whatever. when i do these anatomical studies, i try to set up my pose (not the default one from the book) and then fill in the muscles, using the book. that way it goes through the cognitive centers in the brain, instead of just going through the visual part.

xia: "You are actually the guy who inspired me to pick up pencil and draw again at the very first time I saw your thread" - another mission accomplished! ;)

liam.c: thanks! i'll stop by later and check it out

red rook: :painting: :^^:

the bear: thanks again :)

van: that's a perfectly valid crit. i'll try to post more stuffs

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three pages from an A5-sized sketchpad, scanned large so you can read the stuffs. these are for the most part doodles:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pad_01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pad_02.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pad_03.jpg

don't have to work tomorrow and possibly the day after so more art incoming. marko's thread is massively inspiring and i just saw wes' new post and that probably means a 10 hour session minimum.

cheers!

[Dan.v.D.]

looking at your thread is highly interesting because i have no clue what your afterall going for. at the beginning you drew monsters and robots, but then you eventually went like a couple of steps back to at first sight simpler things.
but i believe that they key to mastery lays whithin those aka basics that to few ppl really struggle with as longs as it takes but instead only build upon a certain formula that seems to be the most rewarding.
yadda yadda lol

keep it up!

[Lung_bug]

dan.v.d.: well, there shouldn't be a specific direction- it's a sketchbook :) but yeh, i hear what you're saying. the thing is, i did plunge headlong into that stuff but then i realized i needed more work on certain things. i tend to jump from one thing to another often... that works for me. and you're right, the key to mastery is in basics, and i should add, in simplification.

here's one more, big enough to print even, i think
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/spawn_steps.jpg


*back to the drawing board*

/ you know you've spent too much time chatting online when you type [omg] instead [img] every time.

[Taj]

WOW inspireing *save* off to draw before work!!

[arghmisfit]

:) Yes! Rock On!

[mogando25]

Hey Lung, nice stuff!!!

Can you tell me what those boxes you draw are? The ones at the top of this pic... if they're from books can you tell me which ones? O yeah, and how do you use them?

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pad_01.jpg

:bashful: :D

[maxetormer]

that spawn thing dam it it could be used like cover art for the
comic man :D nice work (and i hate scanners too bw)

[Syrogen]

GASP! an update from wes9000 AND lung in the same day?!!?! this is too good to be true. time to shut the door, bust out the kleenex, and dim the lights. ;)

man i LOVE how you use so much contrast, that spawn drawing is simply amazing. keeeeeep updating!

[WildSpruceMoose]

Wow--thank you, sorry I can't write anymore I must go draw now :bashful: Your "10 hour session" quote was...incredible =P

[endregan]

inspiration is contagious.

-gone to draw

[xia]

18 and still rising! Love the process, but the one that takes my breath away is the face of the mysterious man!
YOu go PRODIGY CHILD! Certainly we own you BIG for being one of the first Greatest inspiration in the SketchBook.

[obid619]

thanks lung. i needed the advice. i think what i really like is how you have funny stuff around some of your drawings. as you say, i gotta have fun while doing this stuff. I'm gonna get better soon :tihi: thanks again dude. there is just so many amazing artists in this daily sketchbook forum that it is just amazing. marko, wes, you, and so many others are just so friggin awesome man :D

[van]

Rock on, Lung!

[MrFrost]

great stuff my friend. as usual :)