Cuppa Joe's Sketchbook- Occasionally Updated...

[Cup of Joe]

A chair in my room from several angles.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0411.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

A chair in my room from several angles.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0411.jpg

[Anjo]

First off: welcome to CA! (lol funny cause I just registered today)

Anyway, i like your chairs the most, I would recommend some life drawing and stuff where you dont use a ruler (cant see much difficult in using a ruler hehe). This is a decent start and you just have to keep going, its all about practice but im sure you already know that!

I look forward to see more :) (how about you start with hands? :tihi: )



greetz!

[Cup of Joe]

I took your advice Anjo and did some life drawings. Just some hands and some horns I bought at a sidewalk sale for a hat rack. I also found an old blending stump in my room, so i decided to try it out on the cup and ball.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture14.png

[ludwrathjd]

Welcome! Try out a couple of round things with the 1 and 2 point perspectives. or a whole word. I'll get some examples drawn up and show you some basics. Okay I got a little thing to explain finding center and mid points which will be helpful for more complicated things. It is for 2 point perspective. Hopefully this is some help.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Thundersong/2ptPerspCenterMid.jpg
And here is another thing that may help.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Thundersong/example2.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the tips ludwrathjd! I got two pages up today. The first is some quick sketches I did at a restaurant. The second is some more hand studies that I don't think came out very well.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture15-2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture15.png

[revender]

Keep practicing all that you learn. Perspective is a fun place to start, but it can become a rut that doesn't offer much advancement if taken alone. (I was stuck to perspective drawings for the longest time.) So it's good that you've begun drawing a variety of things.

Check out http://saveloomis.org/ above all I'd recommend 'Figure Drawing for All It's Worth' It will get you started on the figure and it also includes a number of perspective diagrams that you'll be interested in.

Keep at it man, you're on your way.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the comments everyone!

revender- Actually, I got a copy of "Figure Drawing for All It's Worth" a few days ago at my library. I hadn't had the time recently to read it much, but I did a proportion study from the book today since you reminded me. hmmm...I think I made him too thin from the waist down. I'll do another tomorrow.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0674.jpg

I definitely made his waist too small.

[Zulle]

Hey joe keep going! Drawing is Fun! I Like this one.. its just art: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0365.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Zulle! Youv'e got an awesome sketchbook yourself!
I did another loomis study today. I think I got the proportions down a little better this time, and I inked this one too. I also did a quick sketch I was thinking about for a logo/signature. I've trying to come up with a good one for a while and this is the best idea I've gotten. Any Ideas?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0713.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0686.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

More Loomis. I got a little tired of proportion, so I moved onto gestures. The top row is just trying to get a feel for it, and the two on the left of the second row are from the book. The rest are from reference except for the one in the bottom left.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0739.jpg

I should probably get a scanner.

[Tigermilk]

Looking good. I see you're on the right path to progressing. Study, make notes. Draw very often. Bring your sketchbook with you to public places, draw people you see, etc.. It will help you a shit load! :)

keep it up

[LoveHateWar]

you got some neat sketches and also gave me some ideas for pics

[incolorinred]

you doing some good things man. looks like you were studying vertical dimensions of the form. Also study the horizontal dimensions too, that is hip, head, leg, and torso width.. etc.
also, way to practice using vanishing points and various perspective.

keep it up, all this stuff will serve you well.

[Cup of Joe]

Sweet! Three replies! I'm moving up in the world:^^:
Tigermilk- I probably should be doing more life drawings. I'll get around to it one day.
LoveHateWar- I gave someone an idea? Nice.
incolorinred- Thanks! I'll probably be doing these studis spanned out over a while. (mainly because I'm too much of a procrastinator to do them all at once.) After I finish Loomis I'll move on to the anantomy of individual body parts.

Ugh... These turned out terrible. I should probably be doing all of the views on the same page. I have got to stop being so lazy. I'll probably post more again tonight if I get around to it.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0871.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Did another. This one came out much better, but I still made his legs a little thick. I also should learn to use a brush pen better.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0882.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Went out and sketched some stuff. I did it in pen, because I thought it might help me make my lines more confident. I kept forgetting I was using a pen though and kept trying to shade like a pencil (I should learn how to crosshatch), so it came out a little wierd, but it actually helped a lttle. I'll probably do it again sometime.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0900.jpg

[ludwrathjd]

Heya, checking up on ya. Nice vertical proportions on the last study. One thing to keep in mind when drawing from referance is to draw what you see not what it is. That means, dont draw from memory or what you think something is, draw the shapes, lines, and values that makeup whatever you are looking at. It may help you to start drawing that way by drawing simple shapes like cylinders, rectangles, cubes or whatever shape you may see in the object; combining them to make the form of that thing. Hopefully the sketch in the link helps you understand. I used eliptical spheres mostly for the hand 'cause the hand is mostly plump and round, its not detailed but it is enough to get across the form of a hand.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Thundersong/handex1.jpg

[Recursive_End]

Good studies, keep on working hard and you'll see the progress :)

[Cup of Joe]

Wow, it's only been ten days. Feels way longer.

Recursive_End- Thanks!

ludwrathjd- Thanks for the tips! That actually helps alot. After seeing that I decided to practice on some more hand studies made from simple shapes. #2 is just a cleaned up version of #1. And if #4 and 5 look wierd, it's because their someone elses hands. #5 is also wearing gloves. Eventually I'll probably do this to help with gestures.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0911.jpg

[Kitsu]

Good hand studies, the bottom one on the last page turnd out really good. Maybe try going larger with these and putting in some of the anatomical details (tendons, muscle groups, etc.). Keep pounding on that basic figure construction too. Good job catching your own errors!

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks! I don't want to move too far into detail until I feel more comfortable with basic shapes. You have some fantastic stuff for 'The Peer Project' by the way!

Some stuff for the peer project (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53517). It's a great thread that I highly suggest you check out.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Photoshop/Project-Two-Template2.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Photoshop/Project-Two-Template2copy.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Photoshop/Project-Two-Template3.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Photoshop/Project-Two-Template3g.jpg

[anymale]

hey good effort, the last hand studies are nice and maybe you could bring some more perspective in.
salute

[seetsy]

This is a good start, but as others have said life drawing and studies will really elp yu get better alot faster. Observational drawing quite a bit different from conceptual drawing tho. Like ludwrathjd said, draw what u see, not what u think u see. Doing exercises like blind contour drawing, seeing negative shapes, etc will really help train ur eye for life drawing. Betty edwards book is pretty good for learning those type of exercises. For conceptual drawing though, uve gt to understand construction and be able to break the object your drawing into simple geometric shapes. Anyway keep it up

[Serpian]

You've got something here! Good to see you really practice what you should, doing hands and perspective and stuff like that. I sense acute improvement, I say! Keep doing those mannikin things and practice your proportions. Don't stop.

[Cup of Joe]

25 replies! 300 views! 50 POSTS!
This sketchbook aint doin' bad if I say so myself.:rendered:

anymale- Thanks! I'm working on the perspective thing.

seets_- All of that is already on my to-do list. Maybe I can get some of it done this weekend, and if not that, I'll do some after mid-terms are over. By the way, I looked for that book, but couldn't find it. Whats the title?

Serpian- Acute improvement! I'm liking the sound of that!

Thanks for all the replies everybody!
I wish I had something better to show, but I guess thats what I get for eyeballing it. I should work on seeing my mistakes BEFORE I ink something in. By the way, am I making my images too big?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0944.jpg

Also, no one has commented on the logo a few posts back. I'm completely new to this kind of stuff, so I could use some help. Should I clean it up and post it in another section for more comments?

[Cup of Joe]

I finally Did some blind gestures! Hooray! There are actually about two or three more pages of this, but this is the only one that would show up on my camera.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0957.jpg

*Sorry for the horrible photo qaulity, I drew these pretty softly so my camera had a hard time picking it up.

[Cup of Joe]

I'm seriously going to try to draw more, because you guys are making me feel really lazy. I did some perspective/proportion stuff today. The last page is gesture studies.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0969.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0975.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0981.jpg

Sorry if the picture are small, or sideways or something else, Photobucket is being skrewy (did I spell that right?) . Maybe I should move to imageshack, because photobucket's 512kb file size limit is starting to piss me off. I'll fix the pics tomorrow, and hopefully my future updates will be bigger.

[Cup of Joe]

Hmmm.... been a while since I've had any replies. Today I did some cake slices from some different angles to try and get better at perspective/size without using a ruler or checking distances. The second page is some more hand and foot studies, and I threw in a crappy and quick first SP because if I can't draw myself I probably won't be able to draw anyone else. I'll spend more time on the next one, because just about the only thing I got right on ths one is the hair. Expect some eye and mouth studies too because I have no idea what to do with those.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1043.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1037.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1023.jpg

Once again, sorry if the images are screwed up in any way. I'll try to fix them as soon as possible.

[Kitsu]

Good work on the balance exercises, and the cake in perspective looks good too. Just keep working on structure, it will help you in everything you try to do later.

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks for checking up on me! I'll keep working at that.

Sorry, not much today, I'm doing some last minute midterm cramming. Just some eye/ear/mouth studies. Still no idea about mouths.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1070.jpg

[Kitsu]

Good work on the eyes, remember though that the whole iris almost never shows. Usually most of the iris is hidden by the upper eye lid. I tried to find some good referance for the mouth but no luck, I'll keep looking around.

[Cup of Joe]

Pics will be up later tonight. Photbucket keeps telling me "Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't create a new thread (errno 12); if you are not out of available memory, you can consult the manual for a possible OS-dependent bug in /apache/htdocs/src/connection.php on line 26
A database error has occured:" and not letting me upload anything. I'll try and fix it soon. I might just switch to imageshack.

[Cup of Joe]

Photobucket is working again, so I'll do this while my acount is up.

Kitsu- Thanks alot!

Page one- Rubbish foreshortening practice.
page two- same as last.
Page three- PS sketch. Started as an eyeball, turned into eyeball inspired by the amazingly talented bumskee, then turned into I don't know what.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1083.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1087.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture1.png

Sorry for any problems with the pics.
*fixed them

[Kitsu]

Lol -> Yellow Submarine!
The eye ball looks really neat, it also works very well compositionally (for me anyway). On the other sketches your ellipses look a bit wobboly, check out the ellipse drawing tutorial at http://www.drawthrough.com/. It is a little technical, and sometimes confusing, but it might give you some ideas.

[guggemmaneuver]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture1.png looks pretty dang tight.... very impressive... did you speedpaint this? I know it'd be something of an expense but your stuff would look much better if you scanned it. Really though, on some of them, especially http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG0957.jpg it's nearly impossible to make out what's going on. the volumetric studies are very nice btw.... keep up the great work.... I'd like to see what you could do with painting some of your pencil drawings. don't get discouraged by the proportional studies... they are somewhat labor intensive, but worth it. keep up the great work!
j

[anymale]

your are a workin man
you improve
salute

[Cup of Joe]

Sweet, replies!

Kitsu- Congratulations! You were the first to spot the Beatles referance! I would give you a prize, but I don't have one. Thanks for the link! I should work on circles more.

guggenmaneuver- Thanks! I'll get a scanner one day, but I'm a little low on cash, (TV broke, had to get a new one). Would it be better just to get a cheapo scanner, or set up some kind of stand/lighting arrangement for my camera? because my camera has a better resolution then any scanner I can afford. I'll paint one of my pencils when I draw something worth painting, and expect more proportion/gesture studies.

Anymale- Thanks for the comment!

I had my first art induced breakdown today. I was trying to study for midterms and practice foreshadowing at the same time, and my brain imploded, so I scribbled in PS for a few hours to cool down. The first page is my unfinished studies (still rubbish), and the second/third are the PS scribbles. The first is a life drawing of a water bottle, contour, about 10-15 min. Second is just a flow of thought scribble that started out nothing like this. I might finish the second PS one, cause I kinda like it. I also have a cold. Hooray for today!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1096.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/bottle.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture2.png

sorry if there is any problem with the pics.

[Serpian]

Cool stuff! The eyeball looks a little flat, but I like the surreal composition! AS far as eyes and mouths go, I think the best way (apart from buying a book on it..:\ ) I think, is to look at your own, and at other's. That's what i've done, even if I haven't got them right either...:bashful: It'll work out, promise! Keep it up!

[Cup of Joe]

Serpian- Thanks! The eyeball is a little flat. Maybe I should have pushed the shadow a little darker.

Midterms are over! First two pages are gestures, and the first PS sketch is just a lighting study from one of my sketches on today's first page. I also worked on yesterday's wip a little. I think I hit a dead end with it though.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1263.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1261.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/wingy2.png

[sabe2003]

So basically I see you have some solid skillz with the ruler. The anatomy, it's tough I know, but maybe if you bring in what your doing with the buildings into the figure, it would help transition you to organic figures, we are build like machines so maybe pushing that to the extreme will help you understand better the motion of a fluid figure. I like what your doing with the hands, spacing out the sections, more of this type of studies will help you, I think.

[mitch]

hey man, teh perspectives are really good. the proportion studies are really strong too. keep it up man.

[Serpian]

Blocking in shapes is good, but I would like to see you trying some smoother froms on your gestures. The soccer guy is cool. Hope to see some progress on that b/w wip there. Just draw, draw, draw....

[Cup of Joe]

Sorry I havn't posted in a while, my cold turned into a nasty flu and I havn't gotten to the computer in a while. For not posting in 5 days, I did a five page update.

Thanks to sabe2003, mitch, and Serpian!

Not too much of a description, just some loomis gestures, some circle practice, and a cartoon me, because I got bored. There's a really bad storm out, so I'm gonna make this quick and turn off my computer.

sorry for any pic problems.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1322.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1334.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1343.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1344.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1352.jpg

[Kitsu]

The mannequins look good, but the legs are a little short on some of them. The character sketch is good too.

[Farvus]

I like your sketches from restaurant and foreshortening practice. They look very promising.
I suggest constructing some big composition from for example chair, two boxes, white sheet and some smaller elements like pots, bottes, fruits. Then you can draw this on big format (at least A3). This way you can do long strokes and your line confidence will improve very quickly as well as proportion sense.
Might be boring but it helped me a lot :).

Keep it up!

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks! I did make the lower legs way too short.

Farvus- Thanks! Draw big to build line confidence, got it. I'll get some A3 paper sometime, or maybe I have some. Well, I'll add it to the now very long list of things to do.

I drew a tree and a plant today, along with some line practice with a brush pen you should just ignore. I'm kind of angry though, because the camera didn't pick up a lot of the detail in the tree, and I spent a while on that. I really have to get a scanner.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/treething.png
Sorry for any problems with the pics, scanner maybe coming soon.

[Serpian]

Good loomis studies, nice tree! Too bad the camera didn't cooperate.. As for the pictures of your pictures, maybe a little brightness/contrast adjustment or levels to get rid of the gray background... It's a bit tricky not to destroy your pics, but there is always undo! ;)

[Cup of Joe]

serpian- Thanks! I have to thank you for sticking around this crappy thread and keeping me moving. Thanks again!

Rubbish self portrait today. Luckily this forum seems to be a great resource for stuff like this. study study study

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1392.jpg

[Kitsu]

Some good work on the nose, try to find some other peoples sketches and see how they put the nose together. I think there are some tricks for the nose that can help it look good/right, kind of a set of lines that help indicate the structure. darn things are just too curvy!

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks!

Sorry for the no update yesterday. I still got my drawing done yesterday, but spent the night at a gallery crawl downtown. Sweet stuff there, too bad I couldn't afford any of the prints. Some were awesome, and some galleries were just wierd. Yesterday I did silhouette gestures from one of the exhibits, plus some doodles, and today more silhouette gestures, plus doodles. PS, black, size 6 hard round brush for both.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Silhouette1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Silhouette2.png

Just noticed, This makes 50 replies! WOOOO!

[Cup of Joe]

BIG update today, I finally got up off my ass and did something. First off is some peer project projects, no. 2 and 7. Then some animals/insects and a quick gesture in mentler style. The rest is some completely blind gestures done at a movie in a pocket moleskine.

Things to look forward to: scanner (maybe), new thread title? maybe

project #2
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/project2.jpg

#7
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Project7-1.pnghttp://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/project7-2.png

animals
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1551.jpg

blind gestures
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1571.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1574.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1576.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/CIMG1581.jpg

Please tell me if anything is wrong with the pics.

[Kitsu]

The silhos look very good, isn't it odd how it's easier to make the silhouettes look good? I wonder how much you learn from doing them and how you can apply them to regular drawing? Maybe some lesson about the importants of the edge of a subject vs. its contents...

[Cup of Joe]

Sorry for not updating yesterday, but to make it up, SCANNER! YES!

Just for dramatic effect, here's an after-before shot. (sorry, mixed it up)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/comparison.png

The first is yesterday's, a crappy boot for my art class at school. The second one is today's, some (also crappy) muscle studies. I should do some more self portraits.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/13106-1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/13106-2.jpg

[Kitsu]

The boot is nice, that is a hard angle to pull off with footwear :)

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the replies Kitsu!

Wow, month 1 is already over. ONWARD! :pirate:
The first for today is from me playing with a vector/animation program over a sketch I did in school. It didn't come out so well. The next is another project for school. I had to construct a stool with negative space in between vertical lines without drawing an outline first. I don't quite see the point, but it's a fun challenge. Obviously it's only half done. The last is a quick setup for a PS piece I might finish tomorrow. There are too many problems right now to name.I could do it tonight, but I choose sleep. I kind of feel like I've had a bad drawing day the past few days. Hopefully I'll bounce back soon.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/lunch.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/chair.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/20106.png

I also see page two is looming. Thanks for all the replies everyone! Heres to hoping I make it through the year!

[Serpian]

Yeah bad drawing days suck, I know the feeling. Negative-space-stool-thing is really nifty though! Oh, and congratulations on starting to scan your pics! I still have to photograph them..:S. The pier building is a good start, keep up the good work man!

[Cup of Joe]

Serpian- Thanks! It is a lot easier with a scanner.

More stuff from art class. The first is the finished boots. I'm not satisfied with how it turned out, but seeing as it was due two days ago, I don't quite have a choice. The second is just another exercise I don't really get, but kind of liked. We had to take 8 coat hangers and throw them on the floor, and then draw them the way they fell. I also fixed up yesterday's doodle. I'll do basic values tomorrow, because once again, I choose sleep. I should also get a ref for the gun, because I have no idea what I'm doing with that. I think I might be out of this bad drawing area soon, so I might go back to gestures/proportions/hands etc. to get back in the swing of things. Good thing I have a long weekend. :teeth:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020206-boots.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020206-hangers.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020206-wipgun2.png

And just because I like pirates.:pirate:YAR!

[Kitsu]

Good job on the coat-hangers, you've been doing a lot of good contour work lately.

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks! Now I just have to work on the details/shading.

Forgot to update yesterday....or do anything yesterday for that matter. So today I decided to work on that outline I've posted for a few days, and in the end basically completely stared from scratch, because there were so many problems with the outline. I've lost track on how much time I've spent on this, and there are still a million problems, but hopefully this will become my first finished piece.
Any crits on this are highly appreciated, I need all the help I can get. Also, if anyone has a ref of a gun in this position, I haven't been able to find anything. I am also addicted to BAGeL Radio (http://www.bagelradio.com/). If you like Indie/Rock and sometimes some Techno/Hip-Hop, this is a must see...or listen. You can tune in through the site or through iTunes.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030206-wipgun3.png

PAGE 2 IS SO CLOSE I CAN TASTE IT. Thanks to everyone who has replied, especcially Kitsu and Serpian, who have really kept me moving lately. Thanks Everyone!:yayca:

[Ryn]

Keep plugging away, there!

My only suggestion for your last picture would be to try cleaning up the lines. Try to avoid petting them in so much; try to practice using long, sweeping strokes.

[Cup of Joe]

PAGE 2!

Ryn- Thanks! Yeah, I got to work on that more. I just got a bigger art pad, so I might do more of that stuff to help.

I got some big paper today, so I did what Farvus suggested a long time back and drew some chairs/sheets/other crap. Spent a couple hours on it. Might do more on it tomorrow, not quite done yet. Sorry for the crappy pics, too big to scan and they were taken in really bad lighting.

Blocking in:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020506-blockingin.jpg

Done, maybe:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020506-done.jpg

* I had some close up shots, but Photobucket hates me.
**Also, I realize that I screwed up the perspective royally.

[Cup of Joe]

Going back to gestures and studies. Hopefully I'll post more tonight. I keep my monitor really bright, so if these look wierd, Please tell me.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020606-gestures.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020606-studies-1.png

Also, yesterday's post was done in pencil if you were wondering.

[mentler]

Doing fine Joe <> don't worry about crossing things out <> there are no mistakes just some are less successful than others. Think of drawings as words <> some say more than others, some say it better that others <> the point is they all say something

[Farvus]

I see that you sketched still life as I suggested. Good job :). It's very time consuming but a good excersise for measuring proportions, finding right angles and foreshortening. Try to use whole space of paper. Also experiment with composition and different objects.
Gestures are nice too.
Keep it up of course :).

[Cup of Joe]

mentler- Thanks! Always an honor to have you here!

Farvus- Thanks! Sorry it took me so long. I'll do some more later. I'll spend more time on perspective next time too. I like your self portrait archive too!

Just a random page with a partial SP/ hands. Also, I started a character type profile of myself for practice. I'm on a bit of a roll here, so I may post more later today.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020606-sketchdookie.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020606-meprofile.png

[Cup of Joe]

Squeezed out one more before bed.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020606-hands.png

[Kitsu]

Wow, you've been doing a lot while I wasn't looking! The gun wip is looking good, it looks like things are in the right places, I can see where things are going as far as the values go. All it needs is a little more time and a few more details put in place. Speaking of details: googlage (http://images.google.com/images?q=looking%20down%20the%20barrel). Couple of decent picks on the first page, probably some more further in.

The other (numerous!) sketches and studies are also looking good. On the sketch of the guy's back and profile though it looks like the hips have 'fallen down' a little. The forearms have also streched to get the hands where they belong. Lately I have been drawing a lot of ovoid shapes to help place the ribcage and hip regions, it might help you to see whats too skinny/fat/far appart etc.

[Cup of Joe]

Kitsu- Thanks for the refs! I never seem to be able to google the right thing. Also, thanks for the anatomy heads-up. I knew something was wrong with the hip, but I couldn't put my finger on it.

So tired. Tiny update on the gun wip. Messed around for a while, trying to take the shadows and highlights further, because my crappy blending technique seems to leave me with a lot of blurry grays. Still can't fix nose. Heres a before and after. Tell me which you like best. (please) More tomorrow, after I get some sleep.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/020706-wipgunshadow.png

[Serpian]

Congrats on page 2! Keep doing your hand studies, that's something you'll always need. The gun pic is coming along nicely! You're really getting better, and fast! (Acute improvement, remember? ;))

[Kitsu]

I prefer the one on the left, it looks a little crisper.

[Cup of Joe]

Serpian- Thanks! "Acute improvement", I still like the sound of that.:teeth:

Kitsu- Thanks for the input on that!

Sorry for no update yesterday, had alot of homework. I decided to start my first serious SP today. I cheated a little and took a photo referance and scanned frequently so I could see it right next to the ref. I was surprised how little I knew about my own face (I mean, it's not like I don't see me everyday), considering it took me five tries to get anything even close to right. I kept No. 5 and just worked on that, but heres all of them any way.

1-5=:$ CRAP

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face3.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face4.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face5.png

Getting closer

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face6.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/face7.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/facedoneblock.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/faceshadow-1.png

More on this tomorrow.

[Cup of Joe]

*This message is being written while half asleep, pardon if I ramble.

Sorry I haven't updated in a while, my internet was out for a few days and I used that as an excuse to slack off on the drawing. I started again today, and it's really surprising how fast you get out of the hang of it.

Page 1- blind gestures from a movie
2- tried to ink that SP, but ended up just butchering it
3- crap practice page. there were others, but none good enough to post. The guy at the top is a character by Drew Weing (http://www.drewweing.com/), you should check him out
4-5- PS wips

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021206-gesture.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021206-facecrap.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021206-dookie.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021206-speedpaint2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021206-cavewip.png

[Kitsu]

3 is really nice! The last one is also great, it really looks like lighting rather than shading. Wherever you found all this skill keep going back there!

[Cup of Joe]

Still tired.....

Kitsu- Thanks! I just kinda screwed around with it for a long time, but I also took a pic for ref. (But it was a bitch to take)

Page 1- gestures again, I kinda like doing these.
2- quick, emphasis on quick, wip of a vehicle desing. I'll color it and explain the numbers tomorrow. That pointy tip probably isnt a good idea.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/02-13-06-gesture.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021306-car.png

[Cup of Joe]

Finally! Back to regular updates.

Not much today. If I get around to it I may post more tonight.

Page1- Finished vehicle outline. May do more, or I might just drop this, because its not going very well.
2- Got around to finishing that stool from a while back.
3- Quick sketch of Ralph from Lord of the Flies for my English class. ( royally screwed up the hand.)

I want to do more life drawings, but its too cold and no one is outside. Hopefully it will warm up soon. I also have to wear sunglasses from now on, because people seem to freak out if you stare at them for too long.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021406-car3.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021406-stooldone.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021406-conch.png

Photobucket is making my pictures look really small to me, do they look fine to you?

[Cup of Joe]

More on an old PS wip. Sorry if my updates have seemed half-assed lately, but homework has taken a big chunk out of my free time. Hopefully I'll get in some more traditional media and anatomy then.

Edit* Oops, Photobucket still hates me and wont let me upload, I'll post it tomorrow. What did I ever do to you Photobucket?

-Photobucket working again, here it is.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021506-pswip2.png

[Cup of Joe]

Been a while since a reply.

Going back to traditional mediums! I've been dabbling in PS too often latley and I've lost my edge in traditional mediums. (Not that I had much of an edge to begin with.) Today is just getting back into the swing of things. Expect gestures and studies over the next four days.

Page1- Gesture for a piece inspired by "nicolas" over in the best of CA forum.
2- Pen sketch I took too far and wrecked.
3- crappy random studies.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021606-dragon.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021606-wings.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021606-study.png

[Cup of Joe]

WHA? Anatomy studies? YES. :D
I promised anatomy and I delivered. Expect more of the same. Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Page1- Skeletal system. The one in the lower right is the finished one.
2- Inked that bad boy in the lower right of the last page.
3- Ink shoulder and skull study.
4- Ink hip studies.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021706-skel.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021706-skelink.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021706-shoulderback.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021706-hip.png

Sorry for the crappy scans.

[guggemmaneuver]

this looks cool (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021506-pswip2.png), though i might suggest spending some time working getting the mechanical illustration aspect of the glasses looking really accurate... will make the rest of the drawing look so much nicer, i promise. in general as well i'd suggest trying to loosen up and make quicker marks... seems like i'm seeing a lot of very deliberate lines... Anticipate where your pen is going, and "drive" it there... Keep up the fantastic work buddy... hope to meet ya at the workshop FOR MASSIVE CAFFEINE IMBIBING BITCH

:)
Joel

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Joel! Sadly, I will most likely not be able to attend the workshop with you due to limited mobility and , more importantly, limited cash. :nohope:
*sigh* Perhaps another time.
But thanks for ink tips, I tried to keep what I understood of what you said in mind. Are these any better? I also fixed the glasses.

Page1- PS wip progress.
2- Ink and pencil bone and muscle studies.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021806-glasses.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021806-skel-muscles1.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

It was nice just doodling for the fun of it again. My sister came home from college to visit today and brought some ink and brushes. I spent most of today messing around with them. The only thing worth posting is a little wash practice. I was trying to imitate Enrico Casarosa (http://www.enricocasarosa.com/), but it became painfully apparent that I don't know how to do washes. I also did a "the peer project" project. I'll hopefully do anatomy later tonight, but I might post it tomorrow instead if I don't get around to scanning it.

Page 1- wash practice
2- Peer project #6

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/cliff.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Picture6.png

[Cup of Joe]

More anatomy. I could really use some crits on these.

Page 1- Skeleton side view.
2- Muscles on the front of the body.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022006-skelside.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022006-muscrender.png

*Does the second one look small to you? or is it just my computer.

[Cup of Joe]

Not much today. More stuff for school and crappy random studies. I feel like I should do some life drawing. I can't wait till it's warm and people go outside again. I'm not quite sure what to do next, so I'm open for all crits/comment/anything. Seriously guys, it's starting to get lonely in this thread.

Page1- chairs for school.
2- Studies. Tried not to pet.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022106-chair.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022106-crap.png

[Cup of Joe]

I realized something important today. I draw much better if I draw for enjoyment or because I want to, than if I just feel obligated. It's also obviously more enjoyable. After todays drawing, I feel pretty relaxed. I'll have to keep this in mind. As part of this idea, I changed my thread title to get rid of the idea of drawing as an obligation. Let's see how this works.:teeth:

Page 1- loosening up in pen. I need to get a new une, this one smudges.
2- trying to build a figure around a skeleton.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022206crap.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022206-skelstudy.png

[Cup of Joe]

Sorry I didn't update yesterday. I did some 5 min. life drawings in art today, but they we weren't allowed to bring them home. Hopefully I'll get some done tomorrow.

Yesterday's
Page1-3- crap in a 4x5 pad that came out after I started replaying playing Final Fantasy 9.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022406-ff1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022406-ff2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022406-ff3.png

Today
Page1- hands hands hands

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022406-crap.png

[afgal]

Great sketchbook man. Love your stuff. Your perspective stuff rocks.
~Kerry

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Sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56314)

[Monny]

heya, followed the link from your sig ;)
its nice to see the progression in your work so far with both anotomy and perspective,thought of couple of things you might want to try for line confidance, to help produce stronger cleaner lines, using general objects can help lay out your structures, squares, circles and similer at the base layer of the drawing can help give a feel of where everything is going to be for when you start to get more into the piece.(use a soft pencil ;D)
and the other, although it might sound a bit daft is scribbling :D
litterally just a page of lines or marks for no purpose, repeat strokes to get a feel for angles and strengths, get used to the flow of the pencil on the page without actually trying to produce anything from it. it quite relaxing too, just let the pencil do the work :)

[Ryn]

Those loomis studies are looking nice. In my experience, though, knowing the names of muscles is far less important than Mister Loomis makes it out to be. That's just me, though. If you actively discuss/critique such things on a regular basis, I'm sure it's more worthwhile.

Those chair contours are looking lovely. Have you been studying from 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain', perchance?

I like the FF9 drawings, too. I used to draw those characters all the time when I was a youngin'. The concept art in that game is great.

I realized something important today. I draw much better if I draw for enjoyment or because I want to, than if I just feel obligated. It's also obviously more enjoyable. After todays drawing, I feel pretty relaxed. I'll have to keep this in mind. As part of this idea, I changed my thread title to get rid of the idea of drawing as an obligation.

I know exactly where you're coming from! I've been less emphatic on my studies in the last week or so. I'd say it's good for you. Drawing for fun, without reference may not be as good for progress, but chances are you'll draw a lot more if you find it to be a blast. Besides, if you can't keep art fun, what's the point? Keep it up, I'd say. It's a good thing.

Sorry to hear your sketchbook is lonely. I'll try to drop in and offer insight whenever I can.

[Cup of Joe]

Cool, Responses! Thanks everyone! I had a week of nothing there.

afgal- Thanks man! Keep at it yourself!

Monny- Thanks for the tips! I should really block more things in with basic shapes. (don't know why I never thought of using a soft pencil for that.) I do the pages of lines every now and then, but not as often as I should.

Ryn- Thanks Ryn! No, I'm not reading 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain', should I be? I've heard about it alot. FF9 does have cool costumes. I found a few days ago and decided to give it another whirl.:teeth: Hmmm... perhaps "get rid of" was too strong, because if I didn't feel any obligation, I'd be too lazy to do anything, but like you said, if it's not enjoyable, why do it?

I actually went out and drew from life today! Didn't go very well.
I spent more time looking for people than I did drawing them, and even then they kept moving. (apparently people don't like it when you stare at them too long.) Hopefully I'll do more tomorrow, and sorry if these are hard to see.

Pages 1-3- crap life drawings

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022506-gest1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022506-gest2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022506-gest3.png

[JLC]

Hey Joe!

Nice SB! I just flipped through from the start - You have really improved over a short time. Your last anatomy studies look great, as do the Peer Project exercises. You've been getting great advice here.

I would offer that you really examine a piece after working on it. Where did you have trouble, and why? What did you do right, and why? What could have worked better? These things can help you see your path to improvement.

Let's see some more work on your SP with the gun. Keep it up!

[Cup of Joe]

JLC- Thanks! That is something I should do more often. Also, don't count on that update. I may go back, but probably not.

WOOO! Today was a good day. I actually produced something I don't hate. I really had fun with pages 2 and 4. I am also officially in love with the pocket Moleskine. Everything today was done in one.

Page1-Messing around with faces. Ignore the crap on the right.
2- Jack from Lord of the Flies.
3- sketch of a Pangolin.
4- Ink polar Bear skull.
5- Rupert T. Roach (http://www.beaverandsteve.com/index.php?comic=50) is riding a train straight into your brain!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-face.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-jack.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-pang.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-pol.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-rup.png

[MUNIZ]

It's nice to see someone working on proportion and anatomy, I need to really buckle down and put some more time into my work. Keep posting your stuff I dig it.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Muniz!

Yay! I finally decided to make a try at a COW! Hopefully I'll get it done in time. Today is the beginning sketches. I have more, but they are even more unreadable than this.

Page 1- COW sketches.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022706-Cowfirst.png

[Farvus]

Good update. I dig the polar bear skull ink drawing. It's good that you try to draw every shape with single line. Try also to vary the line thickness. Heavier and closer to viewer objects/edges have thicker lines. Also those that are in shadow.
In every drawing you should see objects as 3d shapes. I mean sphere, cyllinder, box, cone and so on. In other words everything should have it's volume. Some objects are of course only close to primary masses but you can distort them in every possible way. For example Rupert T. Roach could be made of stretched sphere and few flat cyllinders for the upper part of body.
My advice is to draw loosely some 3d shapes (like HERE (http://www.ar.utexas.edu/blood/images/volumes1.jpg)) and construct something from them later. Third step would be to draw just anything from but with volume :).

Keep it up.

[Ryn]

Ryn- Thanks Ryn! No, I'm not reading 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain', should I be? I've heard about it alot.

Yes, you should definately look into it. Well worth the time/money. At first I had discounted it as only being useful to absolute beginners. But it offers a lot of insight into why we draw like we do, what causes us to make mistakes, and why practice is helpful. It's really an invaluable read, I highly reccomend it. I bet you'd learn quite a bit.

[Cup of Joe]

Farvus- Thanks! Line thickness and blocking in are things I have to work on.

Ryn- Thanks! Maybe I'll pick it up sometime.

Yay! Today marks two months and sixty days since I started drawing seriously. Sorry for the silence lately, I've been busting my ass over this COW thing. Hopefully the finished version will be up by saturday. For more info, check my entry in the COW thread.

Page1- outline
2-base values

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/ost1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/0st2.png

[Cup of Joe]

more COW.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030206-ostcolor2.png

[Cup of Joe]

COW again. Hopefully I'll finish this tomorrow so I can get some traditional stuff done again.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030306-cow.png

[guggemmaneuver]

hey cup!
this (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/021806-glasses.png) is in fact looking much better. (sorry it's taken me a little while to get back in here to check up!) It's funny how if you get one aspect of the drawing DEAD on, then other parts that aren't quite as good are forgivable, ya know? This page (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-jack.png) is definitely my favorite ... It reminds me a lot of this artist Raymond Pettibon's comic-ish panels (http://www.ikonltd.com/artists/details.cfm?ArtistID=10&AutoArtID=94) with some text written on them. it's really a lovely combination. This is looking goooooood (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/022606-pol.png), careful with the pen work.

[Cup of Joe]

gugg- Thanks for the tips! Cool link too.

Back to traditional media after COW.

Page1- blind gestures to loosen up
2- Bike from life
3- T-shit design/ stencil thingy from the You're C.A. Friendly? I'm C.A. Friendly! (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62787) thread.
4- Finished COW entry

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030506-blind.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030506-bike.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030506-CA-t.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/Ostoraptor5.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Crap, forgot to update again. I'm still drawing everyday, my memory just sucks.

Page1- Hand gestures and sketches
2- Building from life
3- Birds from life and photos I took

All crits highly appreciated!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030706-hands.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030706-building.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030706-birds.png

[Cup of Joe]

Messing around with hands.

*Crap. Photobucket is acting up again. I'll post it later.

[Cup of Joe]

ugh. Really sorry my posting has been so eraticc lately. Sadly, it will probably be this way for a while. Here's today's and the 8th stuff. Expect the stuff from the ninth tomorrow when I get around to scanning it.

page1- messing with hands. (8th)
2- hands and mentler box gexture. Th pose is a little stiff and I had a lot of trouble with the upper body, especially the neck.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/030806-hands.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031006.png

[afgal]

I really like your bird studies.
~Kerry

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Check out my sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56314).

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks afgal!

Did some fast leg studies. I focused more on form and length and shape than rendering.

Page1- crap face
2-4 - legs

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031106-face.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031106-leg1.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031106-leg2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031106-leg3.png

[Recursive_End]

These look good :)
Once advice, avoid pressing too much with your pencil. And keep your distance from your paper, try to keep an overall view of what your doing so you can more easily see your proportion errors.
Anyway, keep practicing :)

[Matt Smith]

You have a good amount of sketches in here. Keep working on those anatomy studies and if you havent yet, start doing some figure master copies. I think some more studies of light and value would help too. You have the right idea with the guy holding the match and the green ball, but could be pushed farther. Keep up the good work.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the advice guys!

I don't know what I caught, but it sucks. My brain is currently non-functional. As a result, taking matt's advice on the master studies probably not a good idea. Everything is off. Thge first is a sketch and the second is what came from a real try. It's from a da Vinci piece.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031206-2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031206.png

[Cup of Joe]

Now that my brain is at least functional at a basic level again, I decided to give it another try. It's a copy of this (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12944) piece. Maybe an hour or more, 2b pencil.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031306-leo.png

[Doronila]

yo joe! good to see you cranking the sketches out! you shouldnt be shy to go crazy with your pencil, dont be too shy to abuse the paper my man. Add some stronger outlines with some 8b pencils or if there is 30b pencil out there go for it! lol :D
But the shading around the nose and lips are good. keep it up pal, wanna see a crazy drawing from ya soon :)

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Doronila!

DONE. For now. I think.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031306-leo2.png

[afgal]

Very nice!
~Kerry

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Check out my sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56314)!

[Doronila]

yeah thats cool bud. Lookin forward to see ur charcoal drawings bud. Im gonna set up a oven kinda thing outside and make me own charcoal. See if it works. woot!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks afgal and Doronila!

I still feel like crap. The first is a little charcoal thing I did while whatching Casa Blanca, but it got smudged in the scanner. (have to get fixative). The second is a sketch from Harvey.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031406-casa.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031406-har-v.png

[Cup of Joe]

back to the basics. Hands. The scanner made it a little "diffused" if you will.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031506-hand.png

[Snuggles]

Yo Cup! Thanks for commenting on my sketchbook, thar. I just skimmed through yours, and I really think you're making a lot of progress. The only specific advice I have is to look at some of the proportion rules and really practice them until they become second nature. That's pretty much how I learned-a torso is x heads big, so on, so forth, drawing that until it just comes to you. You're making great progress, and I'm glad to see you working in charcoal (I just love the stuff, hehehe.)

I guess if I could offer some general advice, I'd tell you things I've only recently learned myself. Two of the most important things to an artists growth are confidence and fearlessness. It's absolutely VITAL that you are not afraid to fail or make an ugly picture, and when it comes to making art, it's necessary to learn to just...do it! If you want to draw something, just be confident that you can if you try, and don't hesitate or try to make things perfect from the get-go. After years of inactivity I've learned that 1000 bad drawings will net you a lot more successes than one good one will!

Well, even if you knew these things, I guess it can't hurt to hear them again. All in all, great sketchbook! I love to see so much progress like this. Keep it up, I can't wait to see more!

[Serpian]

Woooaah!! I've not visited since.... since.... and... wow!... Like.... wow!
Your progress is great, the anatomy studies (especially the ones you did 2.17) are a stark contrast to ANYTHING before in this thread, and the da Vinci copy is just rocking. I leave this place for a month and here you are, careening out of control in creative madness! I go sit in corner now.

[Cup of Joe]

Snuggles- Thanks alot! I probably should study mre proportion.

Serpian- Glad to see your back! Thanks alot!

STUDIES. hell yes. Finally getting over this cold a little.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031706-anat.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031706-face.png

[Cup of Joe]

PAGE THREE, HERE I COME!

Hand study from observation and books and anatomy study from referance. Blocked ou with the mentler box and ball method. I could really use some feedback on the second one.(had alot of trouble with the legs.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031806-hand.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031806-bid.png

[Cup of Joe]

PAGE THREEE
BE sure to still check on the stuff on the last page which you might have missed!

1- life
2-SP
3-4- studies

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031806-life.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031806-SP.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031906-anat.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/031906-skul.png

[afgal]

Thanks for the reply to my sketchbook. What books are you using for your perspective stuff? It rocks!
~Kerry

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks afgal! All my stuff from books is from "Figure Drawing for All It's worth" or "Cyclopedia Anatomicae".

This will probably be my last post for 5 or so days because I'll be in Chicago. My CA friendly button will be prominently displayed.

1-Drawing on a bike, even stationary, is impossible.
2- Crazy art class assignment.
3- part of a glove from life that was too big to scan.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/032006-bike.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/032006-pins.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/032006glove.png

[afgal]

That lamp looks nice!
~Kerry

[Smitherines]

Think about planes and edges. A lot of your sketches are flat. With the figure drawing on the bottum of page 2, the arms and legs arent reading as cylinders. Same issues are happening in your portraits. Head Drawing by Andrew Loomis will help you greatly. Keep on sketchin'

[Serpian]

Studies are good. Yeah, planes can be hard to do sometimes, but you gotta do it.. Also remember proportions.Sit back and look at your picture, see what seems to be wrong (cause there'll always be something wrong, I tells ya! :P), and if you're surte of what it is, correct it. This is of course pretty obious, but it really helps to actually do it.

[Cup of Joe]

Back from the windy city! Man, alot of crap happened that's not important enough to post here. Maybe I'll check out that blog feature in my profile.... Anyway, got a few life drawings done, but not much. Glad to be home!

afgal- Thanks!

Smitherines- Thanks! As for the legs, do you think it might be the constant, heavy outline despite changes in light? I have to work on that.

Serpian- ThankS! Obvious, yes, but also easy to forget.:tihi: Thanks for the reminder!

1-2- Life
3- SP (got smudged on trip back)
4-5- Quick ideas for the cover of my next SB. (The glasses suck 'cause, well, I wasn't wearing glasses.)

*Photobucket is officially shit. I'm switching. Testing different hosts.

http://i2.tinypic.com/sawgo8.png

http://i2.tinypic.com/sawjnn.png

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9929/032506sp9qu.png

http://i2.tinypic.com/sawmt2.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/cojcpm/032506-SB2.png

[amer-nazri]

Hey there. You've got some nice drawings here. Just my little bit:

Get the shape right. Once youre comfortable with the line and the shape of the object, think about the light as in: where the light is shining from, and how intense the light is.

Form there, you can start adding the tone and the value to your object. What i keep seeing nowadays is implementation of shadow and light in places which do not make sense, which as a result, makes the object look unrealistic. See which part the light is shining the most on, and parts where there is no light at all.

Keep it up!!!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks amer-nazri! Light, planes, value I know. People have been telling me this so much recently that you'd think I'd listen, so today I did! I actually did a serious figure study. I chose a picture with a little foreshortening because I need the practice, and I set up the anatomy and the planes.

The ref was a Stefan Soll picture, which you can see HERE (http://www.janesguide.com/features/michelle7/soll03.jpg).

In order of me doing them:
1-Outline. (I think I have some anatomy set-up shots if it would help you crit me.)
2-PS sketch. (I don't know why I did this BEFORE the pencil values.:nohope:)
3- Starting the pencil values.
4- Done for now. By now, Iv'e sort of given up on the head. I've also obviously been screwwing around with the legs.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3853/032606bod11jw.png

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6985/032606bodps0nd.png

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3514/032606bod22qf.png

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4719/032606bod33ti.png

I'm also pretty sure I screwed up the breasts.

[Serpian]

The ps version of the girl is pretty cool! Also good values in the pencil versions, but remember proportions! (hint: the head!). Good hands, good sp. Aw, I should make some of those too.. Damn lazyness...

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Serp!

Just a quicky today. Man I screwed this up, but this one has a face!

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3802/032706bod15he.png

[Rolo]

Thanks amer-nazri! Light, planes, value I know. People have been telling me this so much recently that you'd think I'd listen, so today I did! I actually did a serious figure study. I chose a picture with a little foreshortening because I need the practice, and I set up the anatomy and the planes.

The ref was a Stefan Soll picture, which you can see HERE (http://www.janesguide.com/features/michelle7/soll03.jpg).

In order of me doing them:
1-Outline. (I think I have some anatomy set-up shots if it would help you crit me.)
2-PS sketch. (I don't know why I did this BEFORE the pencil values.:nohope:)
3- Starting the pencil values.
4- Done for now. By now, Iv'e sort of given up on the head. I've also obviously been screwwing around with the legs.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3853/032606bod11jw.png

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6985/032606bodps0nd.png

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3514/032606bod22qf.png

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4719/032606bod33ti.png

I'm also pretty sure I screwed up the breasts.


THAT IS REALLY GOOD, NO I THINK THEY ARE FINE, THE PS IS REALLY COOL, BUT I HOPE THIS IS NOT JUST ME..BUT THE HIPS COULD BE IMPROVED...A LITTLE BIT!! LOVE IT AND i ALSO LIKE ANOTHER ONE BUT, I ONLY KNOW HOW TO QOTE ONE POST THING... GOOD JOB KEEP IT UP.
ROLO

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Rolo! I might have made thwm a little long.

Set aside an hour or so today for Peer Project.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4503/032806project29xv.png

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7042/032806project418sg.png

[Cup of Joe]

I feel like I've been slacking lately, so hopefully I'll make up for that soon.

1- More Peer Project.
2- added a face to that one a while back. It sucks big time, but I guess It's better than nothing
3- Hands

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4619/032906peer17rb.png

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3815/032906face8da.png

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9486/032906hands3fz.png

[frog and *BAM*]

Wow your improving alot w/ all your studies. The hands are great and the faces are getting better and better. Keep up the great work!

[afgal]

Nice shading on the figure.
~Kerry

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks everyone! Must...slepp...

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6859/033006shapes7oh.png

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6885/033006shapes29yl.png

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2403/033006peer15gz.png


http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3928/033006cube20xx.png

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3940/033006cube12ez.png


http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5374/033006spherecolor5wn.png

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/189/033006spheregs2qs.png

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8607/033006redblockg3bd.png

[Cup of Joe]

So tired....
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5622/040106shapes34tc.png

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5937/040106knife7ub.png

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8530/033106dsg10493dh.png

[Cup of Joe]

Ugh... Today was one of the worst drawing day's I've ever had. It's like everything Iv'e done and learned over the past three months just dissapeared. Augh! Don't look!

Light studies

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4819/040206blocks8bt.png

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1724/040206setup0vq.png

Three abandoned SPs. I suppose it's back to anatomy for me. Maybe I'll finally get some Bridgeman books...

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5421/040206sp13xf.png

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5710/040206sp23ch.png

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/6554/040206sp33ne.png

[Cup of Joe]

Back to the basics- Hands

I had another page, but my scanner decided it didn't want to scan it.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/1642/040306hands19lx.png

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/7844/040306hand28gu.png

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/6215/040306hands32zh.png

[squidmonk3j]

some good studying going on here....i'd recommend you to try shift your perspective a bit, tho...try not to think of the things you are drawing in terms of outline, but mass.

keep up the good work:)

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks squidmonk3j! Definately something I should keep in mind more often.

I haven't done much of anything in charcoal yet, so I decided to do some bananas to loosen up. (stolen from That fat kid)

Vine charcoal, ranging from 10 seconds to about 5 min.

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/5320/040406ban12fk.png

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/7710/040406ban25hh.png

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8110/040406ban30od.png

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8573/040406ban41jw.png

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/4917/040406ban54qs.png

[Jakian]

Very cool loomis studies!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Jakian!

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/229/040506coke6ao.png

[Cup of Joe]

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3291/040606glass28bz.png

[Ryn]

Weird, you updated at the same time as me - down to the minute.

Anyway, the dedication is really standing out. Life drawings of bottles and wineglasses are tedious at best, but you're staying tough. That's good. Maybe try to draw the actual circles that make up the glasses as they go up, to help keep it in perspective. That probably makes no sense, so I can draw an example if you'd like.

Faces are looking good; you're progressing quite nicely. Little crit for the hair though: Stroke single lines with the pencil to make hair look nice, scribbling the pencil back and forth makes it look odd and hastily rendered.

Beyond that, things are looking great, and your progress since page 1 is quite inspirational. Keep it up!

[Cup of Joe]

odd and hastily rendered.

Yep, that about describes it. Thanks for the tips! It's also aalways nice to hear your on the right path.

Not much today, still messing around with charcoal and glass. This didn't go so well, but I still have a few ideas to try out.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3702/040706glass39zj.png

[Cup of Joe]

random-

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5430/040806glass1il.png

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/9954/040806squares6ej.png

Charcoal Sp from Interns tut- Didn't turn out too great, messed up the nose and mouth.

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9072/040806final7rf.png

And some process shots-

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/835/04080613ri.png

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9061/04080626ol.png

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9266/04080635gc.png

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/966/04080646ro.png

Skull study-

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/6974/040806skull9yt.png

[Serpian]

Aw, man. That last skull.. It's just... Man you've come such a long way since you started this thread. I wish I was as progressive as you. Keep at it, man. This is great stuff.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks alot Serp!

Oh, crap, I guess I forgot to update for... what, two days? Sorry, but schools been brutal lately. Heres some studies for today.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5751/041106hands6qe.png

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6639/041106ribs9gb.png

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5649/041106sphere5qg.png

[Jens]

your selfportrait failed on the moment you drew in the place of the features. Check out the third step you posted, flip it horizontally in photoshop. You made the nose to long, placed the eyes to high and the mouth to low and to small, the jaw to round, ear to far back. Sorry if this sounds harsh :) but it's the truth.

Mayby a good exercice is to make some blind drawings. Take a paper and a pencil, follow the lines of your hand, all the bumps. Now draw your hand without looking or picking your pencil back off the paper, while looking the same way you where before. You got to change the way you look at things. A hand doesn't look like the way you think it does. Draw hat you see, not what you think you see.

When doing hannds, ears, noses, bodies, folding it's a good thing to watch for overlapping shapes. If you overlap the shapes in the right way you get depth.
look at this for example (not mine), the way he overlaps his lines in a simple way, but everything works
http://www.dangheno.net/images/pdemo4_small2.jpg

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks immensly Jens! Not harsh at all, if anything I need more comments like this!

Did some blind gestures today like you recomended, along with some hatching experimentation scattered in.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1062/041206hands15zc.png

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/363/041206hands20zr.png

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6114/041206hands35bm.png

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/11/041206hands44nm.png

And today's study. Muscles of the head. I'll finish it tomorrow because I ran out of lead.>:{

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3116/041206study4jz.png

[Cup of Joe]

Finished this. Sorry I don't have more, but I'll do more tomorrow.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6822/041306face3nk.png

[Cup of Joe]

Now that the veil has been lifted on my teen Challenge entry, you can know why I haven't posted much over the past few days.

WIP as of now-

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8804/041406teench58nv.png

sketches leading to this-

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/574/041406t18ak.png

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6245/041406t23lt.png

There were a bunch more but they are just mindless scribblings

Today's study-

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2281/041406studyleg2yd.png

[Cup of Joe]

Whew...I guess I haven't updated for a few days, but you know...family and Easter and all. Hey, At least I have a good excuse this time! It's also always nicee to just think about new techniques, but not be pressed to actually try them out. I think I may finally be getting a slight grasp on this whole shading, form, 3-d object thing, maybe. I also ordered a bunch of Bridgeman books, so expect that in the future. I also may be ink-experimenting in the near future.

Study for today-
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9615/041706arm9mm.png

Still life-
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7448/041706pepper1qe.png

[Cup of Joe]

It's getting kinda lonely in here.

Messing around with ink. Didn't turn out how I planned it, but I like it.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1042/041806hand5wy.png

Crap from life. Sorry for the crappy pic.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2393/041806crap1ls.png

Value study.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2584/041806squares2pr.png

[mentler]

These studies are important <> values have limitations <> the most values I think it is practical to work with are 9 most artist use 5 or 7 <> the general rule of thumb is to use a few as possible to get the job done.

When you do value studies of refs. start by using only black and white than do the same analysis using 3 then 5 <> you should fine that you can describe almost everything with a few values.

[CuriousJoe8]

It's really cool to watch your stuff get progressively better. It would rock if we lived near each other. That would be awesome to get together with someone my age who actually understands the importance of studies. You're going to go a long way in art, man. Hey, maybe we'll meet up in the professional world someday. Well, that's pretty out there, but it'd be cool...

Great stuff dude. I'm looking into the Andrew Loomis, and even some Burne Hogarth you suggested.

[Cup of Joe]

Mentler- Thanks! D'oh! That value thing thing is one of the things that would take me forever to guess, but make so much sense once you say it. I suppose the easiest way to increase contrast would be to lower the number of values. Thanks again!

CuriousJoe8- Thanks! Yeah, too bad. Maybe if you at least lived in a nearby state we could go sketching or something, but...yeah...Ontario... Maybe I'll see you at a workshop someday! Good job checking out loomis too, great stuff!

Did some still lifes today. First is some garlic 1 min speedies. Sorry for the crappy pic on the second one.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4615/041906g16df.png

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/821/041906g27ik.png

And a more detailed Pear.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2283/041906pear6tg.png

[Ryn]

Mmm. Mmm, studies.

Everything is looking quite good so far. You're working on your weaknesses. Great.

Only crit I have for now is to control your strokes. Stroke in values 'with the shape' of the object, not just back and forth. For example, on the large, left segment of the pepper, you put in value simply by shading in horizontally - don't do that! Curve your strokes with the shape of the pepper. It helps to establish a form, and stops it from looking so flat. Also, if you crosshatch, try to keep your pencil sharper, and your lines more even, and (sometimes, depending on the circumstance) closer together. On your pepper, for instance, it kinda looks like someone just attacked it with a switchblade.

You're studying dilligently. Keeping everything right is tough, I'm sure you know, but you aren't letting that deter you. Pat yourself on the back, and keep on truckin'.

[Serpian]

I like the studies, and I like those still lifes. They've got good values, but remember to concentrate on the shape as well. I don't know exactly how the garlic looked like in real life, but that one looks pretty darn skewed. But as I said, good values! Keep it up!

[Cup of Joe]

Ugh. Sorry for the recent gaps in updates, but school and personal stuff has been crappy to me lately. I'd explain, but I'm sure you all understand.

Ryn- Definately. Taking time on shading is one of my biggest problems. I'm always trying to find a quick way, but just screw it up.

Serpian- Thanks! Yeah, pardon my french, but I totally fucked up that garlic.

Study for today. (Update tomorrow, promise!)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7476/042106staud2ht.png

[Cup of Joe]

Crumpled paper-

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8094/042206paper7dz.png

Finished Teen challenge entry-

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2456/042206tc55sc.png

[Cup of Joe]

Bones w/ muscle overlay. (blue)

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/2227/042306arm6qj.png

More muscles.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6656/042306bod5ik.png

[Ryn]

Slooooooow down! The hastiness is still shining through. Funny, drawing is supposed to be therapeutic and calming, but I (and apparently you as well) find it to be nerve wrecking. We expect so much of ourselves, and strive so much for improvement, that we often forget to have fun with it. Maybe take a breather before you draw. Sit outside and breathe deeply. Close your eyes. Make a cup of tea. Meditate. Listen to calming music or white noise. Whatever relaxes you, do it. Remind yourself that quality is better than quantity; what good are 50 pages of studies if you rushed too fast to pay attention to any of them? Studies are useless if you can't concentrate and take in all the information.

You're doing all the right stuff, so try to take in more, and sloooow it down.

[Cup of Joe]

Ryn- ugh, I know. I guess I should try and fix these bad habits early on. Although I'm actually learning alot from all these studies! A while ago I change my outlook on it from "Copy it" to "take notes on it". I think that's helping, but I should definately keep your crit in mind. Thanks!

Armses

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5835/042406arm10vy.png

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/5223/042406arm24eq.png

[Cup of Joe]

WOOOO! Finally got the books I ordered!

Here they are- Sorry for the crap scan, my digi cams in the shop

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9485/042506br5aw.png

HANDS-

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7874/042506br26ox.png

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/592/042506br33pj.png

[Ryn]

Woah! Serious leap here, those books must be awesome.

Those hands are lovely; definately some of your best stuff yet. Just keep plugging away - it's CLEARLY paying off. Set sails for progress, matey!

So how much did those set you back? I'm going to have to check them out.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Ryn! The books were about 40, give or take. I got them off of Amazon, but maybe you can find them in a book store.

In other news, crap. Montreal is officially cancelled for me. My parents sat me down and said they didn't think it was appropriate for someone my age. oof.

More bridgeman-

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2503/042606br6hi.png

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7823/042606br23pb.png

[Serpian]

Woah, as said, those books must be awesome.

[facefront]

the human machine is one of my favorite anatomy books; i love the style

your lines are getting more confident -- the calves in your legs seem to be giving you trouble. i believe they are a bit big in comparison to the rest of the figure; also, in the page just posted, the femur looks a bit short compared to the bottom part of the leg.

heh sorry to pick you to stop lurking on these forums and critique, but i see a genuine wanting to get better, and i've seen some definite improvement and want to see more. keep it up! :)

[Dile_]

wow, and shit, thats great improve ment Joe! (thats your name right ?)
however, keep up the speed , and you will be improve alot in no time!

[Cup of Joe]

Woah- I'm gone a day and get 3 responses. I gotta do this more often! (just kiddin)

Serp- Thanks man! Yeah, Bridgeman rocks.

facefront- Thanks man! I haven't really checked the human machine out much yet, but I'll get to it! Thanks for the crits man! I don't mind at all! Come back, bring you friends, bring your family, I need all I can get! Tell me when you get a sketchbook so I can return the favor.

Dile- Thanks! Yeah that's my name! Will do mang.

Sorry x 100 for Missing yet ANOTHER update, but for some reason these studies had reduced my inspiration level to 0. For the next few days, expect crazy stuff, reffed and imagination. I need to recharge my brain!

T- Dome WIP-

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7088/042806td67ky.png

I'll post more when I scan it tomorrow.

[annisahmad]

hey dude
im liking your perspective studies. very interesting and gives me ideas.
you're showing improvement on your figures. keep itu p

[mentler]

Ha<> I am not going to Montreal either <> my wife sat me down and said she didn't think it was appropriate for someone my age <> actually all that really needed to happen was for Jason and the boys to invite me as an instructor but that has not happened so the "All knowing White Haired Ancient One" is staying home.

Got that quote about me off of a Chinese forum thought it was pretty strange<>

BTW you bought the Bridgman books the right way <> the compilation version is not as good <> editors did not understand the material and the copy is not always with the right pics and even some of the drawing are upside down.

Better to get the individual versions as you did and take them one at a time as they were written.

[Dile_]

the compilation version is not as good <> editors did not understand the material and the copy is not always with the right pics and even some of the drawing are upside down.
looool.


Nice horse Joe, keep it up :) look at references alos :)
(Im going to buy the rest of the books also, Just wanna know you opinion about em ?? are they as good as all say ?)

[Cup of Joe]

Sweet, respoonses!

annisahmad- Thanks Man!

Mentler- my wife sat me down and said she didn't think it was appropriate for someone my age hahahah! Seriously, Are you going to be at the next U.S. workshop? If so, I'll have to go to that one! We could start a petition, "Mentler for Instructor!". I'm sure there are enough people here on CA who would want you there! Yeah, I heard the compilation sucked.

Dile- Bridgeman = Pretty freakin' awesome. Maybe buy them one at a time. I don't know where to start with all of these!

More crazy not-study stuff today. These next few inks are thanks to Guggenmaneuver's sweeeeet PDF ref's.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5712/042906ink13cp.png

DETAIL on the sketchy action

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/909/042906ink1d4pj.png

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9162/042906ink26fm.png

Maybe 20 more min on the T- Dome.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6789/042906td6rd.png

Some BIG Bridgman in charcoal. Too big to scan the whole page so I pieced it together.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9485/042906br7yw.png

[sith]

Good progress! Keep working on those line, keep em nice and clean.

[Dile_]

Hey again joe, Keep studie the anatomy of the hand untill you get the
shape of bones>>muscles etc, that will make it easier , if you learn the basic,
to reshape the hand, with for example, outlines!!!
I cant see the thunderdome update, so I cant say anything about :(

[Idiot Apathy]

Looking good dude, keep with it! Bridgeman stuff looking real nice, need to do some of that myself.

One thing I noticed with your digital paintings are the tiny tiny brushes... don't use those :P those are for details. Use as big a brush as possible, it's easier to cut a larger shape down than build a large shape with a toothpick of a brush.

[Cup of Joe]

Woah, Level 5 and page 4 in one post. Niiiice.

More responses!!

sith- Thanks man! I'm still working on clean lines.

Dile- Thanks! Hands still confuse the crap out of me. Hopefully a few hundred will pound them into my brain.

Idiot Apathy- Noooooo! You have discovered my one (of many) Weakness! TINY BRUSHES! That, and getting the image size big enough before I'm half done, and trying to paint constantly at like, 400%, are habits I'm still fighting. Thanks for reminding me though!

Knobby Knees- or not

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/999/043006br2ci.png

Small update-

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4104/picture13si.png

There were also some embarrasing life stuff, but I'm not going to post that.

[Dile_]

Great, congratz to 4:th page!
and good drawings!
You already know what I think about the Zombie, so I dont mention
the same thing over agian, just keep posting!

[Cup of Joe]

Damnit! Thank God I changed the thread name to USUALLY daily. See, this is why I can't join a daily SSG! too lazy....

Well, you didn't miss much. Fixed the entry sketch,

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/3439/050306td6wd.png

not much el WOAH! LIFE DRAWING! What? Whered that come from! That's right, life. As crappy as they are, that's otta make up forr my abcense slightly. (keep in mind these were done very early in the morning, and drawing through one bloodshot eye is hard.) They suck, but they definately gave me a very clear view of my weak points. Expect anatomy tomorrow.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9313/050306life13rj.png

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4320/050306life20gj.png

[Cup of Joe]

Bridgeman hands. Trying to get a real feel for the structures underneath.I may start a 100 hands thing here, and if I do, I'll post them on SoFA too.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1623/050406br13sb.png

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2718/050406br25dw.png

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2392/050406br37lc.png

[afgal]

Those hand studies are very nice.

[Serpian]

I agree, nice hands! And if you actually have the possibility to go to life drawing classes, do it!

I'm sorry to say it isn't very much I can crit on here, just encourage you to keep practicing. Your lines are very clean, which is a good thing.

[ArcoNL]

Great going dude. Hands looking real nice. Keep it going!

Cheers,
Arco

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks everybody! I stopped by all your SB's to return the favor!

Afgal- Thanks man!

Serpian-Yeah, I'll probably go to life classes this summer. Thanks!

ArcoNL- Thanks! I stopped by all your SB's to return the favor!

I'm tired, so heres a quick hand study

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8939/050506br9xq.png

CINCO DE MAYO! Complete with ethnic food stereotyping!

EDIT_ Removed because of burning eyes.

[Cup of Joe]

Sorry for yesterday's crap dump. Today- Crumpled paper from life! Tomorrow- TD update! (hopefully!)

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/8185/050606pap8dd.png

[Cup of Joe]

As promised, a TD update! On a side note- BAGeL Radio rocks, and does anyone else notice that Battlestar Galactica is just a soap-opera in space?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7480/050706td2sq.png

[Cup of Joe]

T-Doom Final! Sorry for the slacking lately, but schools almost over. Expect more soon, than a lull for finals, then more over summer. Expect studies/ Peer project excersizes soon!

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8732/050906td4uf.png

[afgal]

Nice shading on that crumpled paper.

[Idiot Apathy]

OMG ! Your taco burned my eyes out !!! Ouch.

Crazy zombie cowboy dude, I can tell you're have a little trouble rendering it out - why don't you focus down on something smaller and see what you can learn? Faces are always good render practice.

Cheers!

[Fuish]

Well, I just scrolled through the whole of your sketch book and my my, you've come a long way in such a short time. I just wanted to offer my encouragement to you, and tell you to keep on truckin'. You've made some amazing progress, just keep practicing and soon you'll beat out the best here ;)

[Cup of Joe]

Afgal- Thanks!

Idiot Apathy- Thanks man! Yeah, I should work on line economy..

Squidittch- Thanks! Always good to hear I'm making progress!

Interesting You should mention that Idiot Apathy! Today was a big brush/color experiment. I did this at a small size (100% at 300x300) so I wouldn't focus on details. Done with ref.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9306/051006speedie16nk.png

Soon!- Life, studies! (I hope)

[mentler]

Big Strokes <> Yah baby

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for stopping by Mentler!

Peer project stuff. Wow, these suck ass.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9162/051106pp14ry.png

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/83/051106pp27xs.png

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8125/051106pp35vl.png

[Ryn]

I was going to suggest a colour change for skeleton guy, but you already covered it, kudos.

Hands looking good; those books are really worth their salt, it seems.

Cloth study still looks a little hasty, but you're getting way better at slowing it down, it seems. I still think it's one of your bigger weaknesses, though.

Can't see much else to crit at the time being. Just keep posting. And sorry I haven't stopped by for so long. :>

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the tips Ryn! Don't worry about not stopping by often!

First- Peer Project!

Unfinished top lighting-

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/273/051206pp13xk.png

Various others-

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1294/051206pp29fn.png

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3335/051206pp31gp.png

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6075/051206pp45ja.png

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9616/051206pp54cn.png

Bridgeman Hands!-

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7844/051206br4lh.png

And a crappy little toaster I kinda liked-

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8269/051206toast4pf.png

Later!

[Ryn]

I assume those cylindrical ones are lighting experiments? The top one is flattened due to your stroke direction. The last one is too scribbly - use bigger brushes! *bonk*

Hand looks good. Toaster made me laugh. You have a quirky sense of humour, I like it.

Also, you updated almost the same time I did, again. Getting weird, hehe.

I'll be seeing more tomorrow, I assume, so keep it up. :>

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Ryn! Creepy, we gotta stop updating at the same time.

Opps! Missed a day. I forget what was today or yesterday, so here's everything.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9328/051406br18zf.png

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3887/051406br25cn.png

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2838/051406br33ti.png

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7929/051406br41po.png

[Ryn]

Oh boy, I've found a common error. 'Bout time.

You're drawing your legs way too short. I assume you're drawing from the head down (most people do). Quick way to establish correct proportions - use your fingers to gauge the distance from the top of the head to the crotch (I use my thumb and point finger, then space them accordingly). Once you get that measurement, move it to the lower half, making a little line at the bottom of the lower half. That'll be how far down the legs should go.

In case that made no sense, remember that the crotch will, more or less, mark the middle of the body, height-wise. As is, your legs are roughly a head too short.

"Line petting! No! Stop!" Made me chuckle. Hard habit to get out of.

And I am seriously considering buying those books you got. They look neat-o.

Another random note, wee. I had a secret goal to out-page your sketchbook, but you're updating daily as well. Damn your commitment! :P

[Cup of Joe]

Wow, I didn't notice how often I did that. Thanks! Sill did it today though.

I feel like crap today. Studies suck. xpect few updates soon due to the Sketchling's competition thingy.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/9835/051506br6xp.png

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9624/051506br23cm.png

[mentler]

Keep crossing the Bridge <> somedays are diamonds others just plain suck!!!

[guggemmaneuver]

HEY CUP!
sorry all caps lock... keeps things INTERESTING, no?
thanks for dropping by my book friend...i really appreciate it! anyways, I thought of a crit... You're doing a good job with your push to get things right, studying anatomy (i'm on a bridgman quest myself right now), etc... in your more finished digi paints, i'm a firm believer in developing your image with regards to say 4-8 thumbnails (tiny, like maybe 1-2 inches tall on paper, in your sketchbook...these should be in proportion to your final piece be it a horizontal vertical, or even a damned dodecahedron for that matter...) and then working up your ideas from there into a MORE finished final sketch.... sure, it doesn't have to be perfectly rendered, but it presents your problems to you before you get to the stage of perspective errors and problematic areas in the final composition that aren't thought out so well.

i hope this helps you; you've certainly helped me a great deal with the encouragement!

joel

[Serpian]

I know how bad days feel. Just keep drawing, sort of get it out of the system you know? For me the bad periods can last several days, but I try to just keep on doing it until suddenly one day - I like myself again!

Keep posting.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for dropping by and keeping me up on a bad day guys!

Mentler- Thanks man! Haha, yeah, I know.

Guggen-mang- Thumbnails! Of-course! just in time for my latest projects!

Serpian-Thanks for dropping by man! Yeah, I'm getting over it a little. Mondays, ya know.

Still not back to normal, but better today.

Working on a new contest. Here's my assingment so you know what the hell I'm going for.

Cup of Joe:-

Environment - Shuttle bays (damaged and Undamaged)
Character 1 - Choice of main character (It's up to you but make them fit the theme.)
Character 2 - Human Heavy weapons
Character 3 - Scientists
Creature 1 - Human Domestic creature 1

Assorted thumbnails-

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6503/051606thum17vu.png

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8979/051606thum20pi.png

More Bridgeman! Gave me a few ideas for the project I'll look into tomorrow.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8085/051606br7om.png

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/103/051606br23ny.png

[mentler]

Making all the right moves

[Dile_]

Hey great stuff!, not much to crit (sorry)
keep practiseing ! (what happend to Zombie Contest ?)

*Edit* You got MSN ??*

[Ryn]

The head in that last one is way too square. If that was intended, CARRY ON, SIR.

Nothing else to crit. Just keep it up. /cheer

[blanquish]

hey man great progress
like the photoshop cage( or jar, or something)
looks sweet, keep on practicing

[Cup of Joe]

mentler- Thanks man!

Dile- D'oh! I forgot to vote didn't I! Awwwww man. No I don't have MSN. Does it work on a mac?

Ryn- Thanks! Head 'twas indeed supposed to be square. (Simple shapes and all)

Blanquish- Thanks man!

Dear God, how long have I not updated! I deserve a kick in the nuts for that. Stuff has been kinda hectic lately finishing up school. I haven't even gotten to draw daily lately. Started again today. I'll have to drop be the Sketchling thread and say I'll be late.

Buncha life crap to get back into things.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7685/052106do3yz.png

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9294/052106hal5vt.png

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9196/052106ware4un.png

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4562/052106doola7ku.png

Some thumbs

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9746/052106t11ze.png

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7876/052106t29cb.png

Yeah, these all suck. But on the bright side, I have officially posted over 300 images in this sketchbook! Cool!

[Serpian]

Oh yeah, that perspective-piece is really good! If you want a heavy feel on the soliders, make them look "fat". Not fat in the sense that the soliders are fat, but as the guy keeps his lenght no matter how much armour you put on him, the final result will be pretty fat, in a sense of proportions. Play with exaggarations. Other than that, good work, keep on doin it!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Serp! The hardest thing about this assingment is that I've seen about 0 sci-fi movies, and I'm just not that creative. I started watching Battlestar Galactica for "Homework" on the subject today.

Random stff-

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2227/052206stuff6em.png

[Cup of Joe]

Didn't get to draw much today.
More studies and a little doodle. I may try and keep a little doodle per page of studies to try and get better at stuff from imagination.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/288/052306sto2yp.png

[Cup of Joe]

tried a new aproach to the whole character thing today. Turned out good, I think, but my scanner is broken, so only a digi cam pic today.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9908/052406chara7jz.png

Edit- I know they are all missing hands. And feet. And faces. I didn't have much time tonight, so I'll finish them tomorrow.

[Ryn]

Mmm, drah'ins.

You're so dilligent with your daily drawing AND updates. It's quite inspiring.

Okie. You seem to be mostly clearing up some of the proportion problems from before. Legs are still a liiiittle too stubby, though. Just a bit. Still a huge improvement from a week or two ago, though. Arm/leg studies on the 22nd are a bit stubby, too.

Perspective drawings from the 21st are looking REALLY good! Really, those are spot on, no crits here.

Go go cuppajoh. I'll be rootin' for you.

[Cup of Joe]

Ryn- When you got no talent, dillligent is all you can be! Thanks for the tips, I never see how often I do things untill someone poits it uot. Looks like the eviros are the easiest part of that thing! Thanks for the encouragement!

Today I made what I think will be the most influential decision of my art to date. I'm moving my studio out of my room.
Two reasons:
1. My computer is too much of a distraction. I spend mre time looking at drawings on CA then I do drawing.
2. I'm going to build a real draft table devoted to art (And the occasional homework). Right now I just draw on my lap because there's ust too much crap on my desk to bother.
I'll probably have a room devoted to art within a week or so!

Didn't get to draw so much today, had an essay. Just studies and stuff.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1531/052506stuff2bh.png

Sorry fo all the text and lack of image-y goodness.

[Ryn]

Today I made what I think will be the most influential decision of my art to date. I'm moving my studio out of my room.
Two reasons:
1. My computer is too much of a distraction. I spend mre time looking at drawings on CA then I do drawing.
2. I'm going to build a real draft table devoted to art (And the occasional homework). Right now I just draw on my lap because there's ust too much crap on my desk to bother.

Both of these are good ideas, and eerily enough, things I've done within the last year or so. Drafting tables are nice; that's all there is to it.

I also moved away from my computer to draw. It's a smart move. I still tote around a laptop for music but sometimes I have to unplug the wireless card because I'm hopelessly addicted to forums. It's a shame willpower isn't enough, but a little boost never hurts. Goodluck fighting the fight.

Ryn- When you got no talent, dillligent is all you can be! Thanks for the tips, I never see how often I do things untill someone poits it uot. Looks like the eviros are the easiest part of that thing! Thanks for the encouragement!

Bah, you don't give yourself enough credit. Talent, as far as I'm concerned, is far less important than working hard. Stop cutting yourself short. You have far more talent than most people and you have great worth ethics. That much will go far. So chin up, and be proud of yourself. You deserve it.

[Serpian]

Yeah, what Ryn said. Talent is just a head start. People with talent are nothing without practice. And besides, no-one'a completely talentless.

That neck study is looking good.

And on seeing sci-fi films, maybe it's good that you're unbiased? Working completely off what YOU think is an armoured space-suit. Think function. it doesn't always have to be practical or functional at all, but it needs to make sense. What I mean is, you don't draw a suit which have full heavy armour only on the sides of the character, you draw one that has it on the chest to protect the vital organs. if they're going to be in space, thoy'll probably need oxygen. Again, this needn't be the stereotypical gas-tank-on-back-tubes-to-mouth-model. A belt for grenades and stuff or maybe the grenades are fastened to the arms, so you can just pick one off your shoulder? What I mean is, sci-fi suits can look anyway you want, but it's good to start of with remotely functional ones. Then you can add senseless detail or mega-shoulder-pads that wouldn't be practical in any dimension I know, but look damn cool.

[Kitsu]

:dead: Poof! I'm undead!

I just got going again after over a month of lazyness. I've been working on anatomy/figure. I'll probably start a new sketchbook thread too if I can keep going :upset:

I just wanted to drop in and say your still doing a great job! I really envy your persistance. Keep it up and you'll surpass me in short order :teeth:
Also staying away from the computer is a good plan. One of the reasons for my slump (besides games) was the ever increasing amount of time I spent online.

Anyway maybe we can help each other out with this crazy anatomy stuff? It always helps to get someone else's perspective. Your latest studies are looking really solid. The neck is great :}

[Frank Wade]

Don't stop! Getting better, keep it up. I like the studies a lot.

[Cup of Joe]

Ryn- Yeah, I think these are good moves. Forums are way too addicting. As KC Green once said- "It's like a magical book that continually updates!" Thanks for the encouragement! It really helps!

Serpian- Yeah, I guess this may help in making something non-generic. I am trying to think more about function when making something. It's way harder than just pulling crap out of your ass!

Kitsu- WHAAAAAA? Your alive! Update your sketchbook soon and I'll drop by. Great to see ya back man!

Frank wade- Thanks man!

May not get to draw much tomorrow. I was involuntarily volunteered for volunteer work by my school.

Messing with brushes-

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8536/052606doodle3fu.png

Bridge-mang

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6885/052606br2iq.png

[Cup of Joe]

As promised, not much today. Little PS thumbnail that I got a little carried away with.

With and without big hip things.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7218/052706thumb12az.png

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4500/052706thumb27dd.png

[Ink_Monkey]

dam those studies are wicked...Congrads on the fourth page aswell. Im still on my first ughhhh lol oh well. Looking good man. Yeah those studies rock.
Later Cup of Joe's
Ill visit here more often.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Ink_Monkey!

Uuugggghhhhhdudududur. Spent most of today studying for finals. Did this, then saw Dr. Strangelove at an independant movie theater. I'm going to bed. Tomorrow-
Do more scientist sketches. One more Main chara.
Finish enviros

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6928/052806chara28bs.png

Edit- Just dropping by to say there will be no update today because of finals.

[Cup of Joe]

Two more days of finals! crap. Inspired by the guggen-man to break out the molskine and do some life drawing.

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/4614/53006mole9qq.png

[Recursive_End]

You're doing good.
Though i think you should do a pic where we can't any construction lines. Just values, so you can more easily where you can and where you can't outline your subject.
Besides that, keep doing those anatomy studies !!

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Recursive_End! I'll do some more value stuff. More anatomy to come too!

One more day of finals and then I can draw in a normal schedule again.
Life in molskine-

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/4180/053106mol8rv.png

Speedie enviro-

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3651/053106env6ro.png

Spent about 1 min on this. Idea for a stupid fake cd cover that popped into my head.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8180/053106cd3nn.png

[Ryn]

To be blunt, the digital paintings are looking a bit bland. But that's to be expected when you start out, right? :)
I think you could spice up those digipaints a great deal if you played with brushes some more. Just dick around, see what does what. 'Playing' with photoshop will help a lot more than you probably think.

Either way, kudos to you for pushing yourself to new things!

[mentler]

You are doing fine dude <> keep up the good work <> hit domenicus thread

[Cup of Joe]

Ryn- Yeah, I'm really new to photoshop. Might try some cool/warm variation in the enviro just to see what happens. But it is also kinda boring, I agree. Meh, I'll work on it later.

Mentler- Thanks man! Left a rather long entry in the DOM thread. Keep those things coming man!

It's over. Two words- FUCK YES. My brain is mush from finals, going back to life drawings. In other news, I finished building my drafting table today! It's all oak, 14 angles for the top, devilishly smooth. I love it already.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/112/picture29xe.png

Life from the Strip-

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1285/060306mole33yd.png

Tried to bust out some stuff at about ten and got some o.k. stuff.-

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/1049/060306mole20uc.png

http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7554/060306mole11mw.png

[blanquish]

hi
I recommend getting a newspaper or something, looking for figures( the sport section is always a start) and drawing them as much as you can,it should help your anatomy and your overall drawing.
Im sure you've seen artists who get their pencil, hold their arm out straight and look at what their drawing. This is a crucial skill when drawing from life, it allows you to work out proportions and sizes before making your shapes. Try drawing a couch or a table or the room with this method but first finding the size and drawing up a rectangle/square and working within the confines of that shape.
Also spend some more time on your drawings, its a lot more appealing seeing something that has had an hour working on, that a few 10 minutes practices. That said you do have some motivation and you are on 4 pages so telling you to practice isnt going to make you do any more than your doing.
With the digis i suggest you have a look at these
http://www.carloscabrera.com.ar/tutorials/
http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?s=16&cat=14
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47859
and http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65409
hope that helped, keep up the drawing :)

[Ryan DeMita]

Some nice studies here. Lots of drawings (which is great). Keep crackin at photoshop and dont be afraid to let loose and experiment with different brushes. Good line quality to some of your drawings. Work on anatomy and explore the basics.

[archipelago]

good stuff going one here, sometimes your lines are real nice and clean, but at other times they are not, It might be because you havent "warmed up" but keep cracking at them! also, try to focus on just one part of the body when you are doing studies, otherwise it just turns to mumbo jumbo. Try sitting down for a couple of hours and focus on the arm for example, going through everything its built up of, not just one nose and a neck, you wont get far with that!
keep posting dude :D

[Cup of Joe]

Blanquish- Thanks for the tips man! I'm trying to incorporate blocking in into my habits. I've also seen most of the links, but thier all things I should keep in mind.

Ryan DeMita- Thanks Man!

Archipeligo- Hmmm, better idea than what I've been doing. Thanks mang!

Took archipelago's advise and spent a few hours todayon just hands. Definately helped. Also, my brain is still sortof deaad after finals, so it helped me relax a little too. Tomorrow I got to do that stuff I've been putting of for the assignment. I started an enviro too, but I can't post i because my scanner refuses to work under these condtions. Perhaps it would work if I offered a dental plan....

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/8316/060406hands11fo.png

Shortly after this image, my scanner went haywire.

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/7830/060406hands28mc.png

PAGE 5 HERE I COME

[Cup of Joe]

Got alot of drawing done today. No enviros or charactes as promised, but I have some Ideas. Transition to drafting table is almost complete. I'm proud to say that today I spent most of the time I usually spend on the computer drawing. Today was mostly SPs and hands. I definately need practice with heads.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4021/060506stuf6cw.png

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7191/060506mol13nw.png

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/428/060506mol23mg.png

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1155/060506mol31jl.png

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/650/060506mol41gw.png

[Cup of Joe]

ROCKIN' IT ALL THE WAY TO THE 5TH PAGE BABY!
Shit, I'm still a page behind a page a month. Well, while your all out rocking Montreal, I'll be rocking it on the home front..... Shit I wanna go too.

Sketches for project-

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5118/060606ske18of.png

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2050/060606ske25ql.png

Molskine-

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3470/060606mol2uq.png

This little servant of the serpant crawled out of my pencil before I finished this update- (ref used)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/9353/060606mol6660ry.png


EDIT- Frogot to say I'll be away for a few days, so don't expect updates for two or three days.

[Cup of Joe]

I'm back! Haven't gotten replies for a while.

All of this is in a moleskin from life except the white rabbit. Didn't get to draw as much as I would have liked. Soon I'll dedicate a week or so to PS, but I should work on the project more for now.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4893/060906mol17nr.png

Pathetic first attempt at acrylics. A fridge from life.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8309/060906mol21rx.png

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9789/060906mol38pu.png

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4100/060906mol49wb.png

[White Rose]

well.. your shading technique..is getting better..and ur lines are more confidant..
so whats your next step?

[Cup of Joe]

White Rose- Sorry! Missed you. Next step? Ummm.... Keep drawing I guess. I don't like to plan very far into the future (or at all)

Spent time on photoshop today. Got some ideas. My main problem is too many transition values, but untill I get around it I can use a soft brush to clean up.

PS from life- 10 mins each

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7140/061009can0wi.png

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8836/061009erase3ua.png

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8585/061009brush6xi.png

Ball from mind-

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5756/061009ball2sk.png

Enviro sketch and PS base values-

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8039/061009bay6jo.png

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6503/061009bayps5ts.png

Banana from life- NOTE TO SELF- only use side of pencil on smooth paper, this one had too much tooth.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5705/061009bananana4xb.png

EDIT- PAGE 5 YESSCORETHANKSAWESOME!

[White Rose]

. .
perspective *gulps*
are u using any books on perspective....
and what are transition values

[Oddo]

Loomis rocks, keep at it and your figures will improve :).

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks for the comments everyone!

White Rose- I got a video on perspective from my library, but I can't remember the name. Lots of good stuff on it on the 'net too. And transition values are the values used to blend two values. It's not a proper name, just what I call them.

Oddo- I should spend some more time on Loomis, I've really only skimmed it. It's great stuff, I should treat it as such. Thanks man!

Wow. I love unconcious sketching, brain-farts, whatever you want to call them. I'm sitting here, I've done just about nothing all day, I'm tired and unfocused, but i decide to pick up the pencil one more time. I drift off...Bam! When I get back this was on the paper. The pose suck and proportions and anatomy is off, but I love it all the same. Let's see how it looks after a good nights sleep.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2038/061206heavy0vg.png

And a little more work on this, keeping it simple untill I'm sure I won't make any corrections. I also accidentally started in in grayscale, so I can't switch it unless I want to flatten it.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7886/061206bay0vq.png

[Spade]

hey there! nice work going on here, your perspective work is looking good. Try and do some more anatomy study, other than that - keep it up!

ps thanks for stopping by my thread!

[Cup of Joe]

Spade- Yeah, I should do wore anatomy. Thanks for stopping by!

Not much today, just a rework of yesterday's plus some tomfoolery/skuldudgery.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/893/061206heavy7ro.png

I have a little more, but my scanner haywire and they're not worth fixing it for.

[afgal]

The white rabbit study rocks!! That's very cool. Keep at it your showing awesome improvement! can't wait to see more.

[Cup of Joe]

Thanks Afgal!

Finally got around to doing more Bridgeman today. I think I'm getting better at studies, I'm really starting to think WHY a line is there instead of just drawing it. It really helps imagine the underlying forms.
Coming SOON (maybe)- The Return of Loomis to this Sketchbook!

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7066/061306br1be.png

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5481/061306br23jv.png

[Kitsu]

The bridgeman studies are looking pretty good! It looks like you are starting to pick up some line tricks too -> Like how to use line weight to emphasize your subject, and how he uses hatches to describe form. Remember to close your forms though - when you leave little gaps in your silhouette you make the inside/outside of the subject indistinct and it flattens your forms. Remember that your lines are wrapping around the subject in 3d.

Also on some of your recent from-mind stuff your figures are looking a little flat. Again try to imagine the space around the subject, try to imagine how shapes overlap and how they shrink as they get more distant. Perspective applies to the figure too. Just as a box gets smaller the farther away it is drawn so too does the far leg or far arm of a figure. You might be suprised how far you can push the figure perspective-wise before things get wierd.

Anyway keep trying everything and building your skills. Everything you do makes you better at everything else. You've got a good mix of stuff going so far and that should really help you out later. BTW I'm trying to do another sketchbook thread; you can get there by clicking the happier of the two smilies in my sig.

[mentler]

Ok cup looking at what you are working on keep the values to 5 (black and white and three middle values) <> the focal point should include all 5 values as things move back in space use fewer values <> this will create perspective in the value structure.

Thanks for bringing my thread back from the dead!