Total Newbie - Wereanimals and other works!

[StarFinder]

Outdated post, removed. Content is old, links don't work. Sorry Folks.

[McNallyism]

You gotta be kidding me... You're only fifteen?! You got a birth certificate to back that up?

-Sean

[blackhand]

Hahhahaa...a freshman in high school. Yes, I am crying.

In the first painting, the detail in the fur and armor is really good. Some things that are lacking though are the background elements. What stands out the most is the large rock to the back of the figure--the edges are too sharp and it looks like it was just cut and pasted there. Just soften the edges to give it some atmospheric perspective. The gradual softening of detail in the hillside as it recedes in the distance works well.

[Wolvie]

I think I have seen your work before, it's amazing that you can do something like that.... 15 years old O_O

[StarFinder]

Actually..I'm 14 :) I'll turn 15 on Nov. 8

[Oblio]

welcome to the club! ;)

Oblio

[Kaylon]

15 in Nov,!!!

Scuse me while I step outside and shoot me self in da head, Ill be right back.

Wonderful work, breath taking...

Kay.

[davi]

oh son of a goober!!!!!!!!!

[Paulo]

These are awesome.

I'm not coming back to this place anymore. It 's a sick ego-smashing trip :chug:.

Cheers,

Paulo

[Paulo]

You actually painted each tiny little hair of that fluffy fur.

Gonna get some air.

[Erik]

Why do people keep doing that? Life is short enough without being reminded of the huge backlog on painting i have. I wasted my high-school on girls and a guitar i still can't play...

Man these are excelent drawings. And to think that you'll actually only IMPROVE in the coming years...

Why is there only dogs though? You like dogs i guess? How many teeth do they have between their canines in the front. I thought only four. Thats really the _only_ thing i can find in these pics. Great great great.

[egerie]

*wraps towel around head, puts 382 bracelets on and gets the crystal ball out*
<ominous voice> I see a great future in your brushstrokes.... great future... BUT you need not to rest on your laurels and keep growing and learning new skills AND subjects... </ominous voice> :)
I'm still blown away by the fact that you're 14.. wow.

ege who is in coffee withdrawal. can you tell ? :realmad:

[StarFinder]

More Old work that is no longer actually online. Dead links.

[Montross]

eeeh sorry, I always call people dude, no disrespect cristina. I think your work is awsome and hope to see more :)

[Drakmarr]

Um Montross actually I dont think dude is appropriate considering that she is a female; unless you know guys named Cristina. I may be wrong though forgive me if I am.

Good work by the way dont ever stop

[Fozzybar]

:jawdrop:

[John P.]

If you're 14/15, I draw/paint like a six year old in comparison.

And I'm twice your age...

Congrats on these, they are great. :)




-You'd be great as 'exhibit A' for the defense of a 'natural talent really exists' side in the "talent or education?" thread in the lounge.

Well, Mozart wrote music at a very early age, so I guess there is such a thing as raw talent.

I guess I can sell my Wacom now and do something else.

[getata]

:eek:

wow I feel like crying too........ your drawings are just... awsome

[WildSpruceMoose]

Yeah pretty much makes me want to give up.

[Erik]

After seeing what you did with the pencil i just want to die. O_o... how big is that image of your friends? How long did it take you (to ask the most asked and dummest question anyone drawing anything has to listen to all the time)

I like your pencil work better than the paintings though.

[mtomczek]

I dont believe it! I want proof! school id, something. No one I have ever seen that age can draw like that!! show us the proof!!!!!! :) (awesome work by the way)

[StarFinder]

More old stuff. Not up online anymore.

[endregan]

Toit drawings. skillz fo sho ;)

[nardfrog]

Pretty damn impressive for a someone who is 15. Youll go far.
My main comment is you need to work on color harmony. For me to eplain this in more detail I would need to write you a novel. So Im gonna try to make it super simple and the rest youll need to read about or something, okay.

Here we go, color harmony is achieved through the overall browing or greying of all colors throughout your picture. In other words, bring your colors towards neutrals. Check out the masters works like Rembant to see what i mean. A lot of his paintings are just variations of browns. Its dosent llok like they are, but they are.
Hope this helps

[StephenC]

i wanna see a wip of these sweetness

[Gray]

:shocked:

[StarFinder]

Here's an old WIP..sadly this one will never be finished. Went down with my old computer. But it does show how I work.



WIP - Regret (http://starfinder.biz/regret.jpg)

[Max4d]

Hey

Are you a daughter of an artist or something? I mean since when did you start with that? I can hardly believe you did this, with 14 i didn't know how to start a pc :D:D

Greetz Max4d

[Loga4]

Those are very good,congrats!

[Hardcore]

You have an amazing future ahead of you...!!! :chug:

[Fozzybar]

Originally posted by StarFinder
Here's an old WIP..sadly this one will never be finished. Went down with my old computer. But it does show how I work.


Is this something like a selfportrait as an animal...just asking because of the orange bandanna...:)

[StarFinder]

actually, it is! It's StarFinder, my coyote/wolf hybrid character that represents me in my artwork :)

[Lost]

No Shit...14?

....

[Michieru]

i want to die im so jealous, im 15 and i suck so much
compared to you *takes gun and shoves it into his eyesocket* boom..

[[Scratch]]

Loool

I don't like saying this but its people like you who demotivate people with lesser skills like me ...

But on the contrary ... you might as wel be an inspiration ... hmmm ... now i think of it that way i might as wel pick up my wacom again (it had a slight confrontation with the wall when i read your only 14 ... J/K)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Chewy Muntz]

Good work. I like the pencil drawings the best. I just started to figure this stuff out and I'm a junior in college. You can draw as good as me and your not even a junior in high school. WTF

I'm out:confused:

[ChadTHX1138]

:bash: yup great pencil skills! you have no fear of trying. i am not a fan of the furry stuff though.

I laughed my butt off when i saw this thread, it's not a bad thing and i dont laugh at you or your art, but at the unusual curve ball that this thread caused. I am impressed really.

[Max4d]

Hmmmmmm, you are fourteen, but you draw like you’re 28. You’re fourteen, but you make websites that are as good as a webmaster. Your fourteen, but you are quit tall, maybe even big for your age. Your fourteen, but you draw like you have all the time in the world ??

Something sound suspicious to me, I personally don’t believe in natural gifts. It won’t help you much, practise on the other hand will do the magic. I think tat you must be drawing since you could lift a pencil and that you are a relative of an artist. It would be crap to say your only fourteen if you said that you only started drawing a year ago. It would make a little sense if you said that you are drawing k9 ’s since 4 years old and that you always draw in your free time. Then I would say, yes she is a talent, but has here skills to thank because she draws much.

Oh and another think, draw something different than dogs, I have seen enough of them. You mastered that part, then draw other stuff. Humans, other animals, buildings, scenes, environments. Expand your scope, you’ll do just fine.

But to say 14, nah, can’t be

Max4d

[Diablo™]

Kids these days...

[jester]

StarFinder - who taught you to draw? When? How? Like all the others here I'm still doubtful that this is possible!

Jester

[Tanika]

*digs a hole, curls up in it and dies*

[madmikus]

very good keep it up. have you had formal training? great photoshop work...theres a little something above the fox's left leg that could be fixed...just a little blur. but wow you're totally great!

[StarFinder]

Actually, I have been drawing since I was little, probably age 2 or 3, and yes, I do draw in my free time. Heck, I draw in class too! My school notes are full of doodles and sketches. And nah, I'm not that 'big' for my age. I'm of average height. Then again, believe what you wish. I don't really care.

EDIT:

Also, I've had no real 'formal' training. I just learned through experience, and sitting for hours on end, drawing and studying things. I usually draw for around 6-12 hours a day, depending on whether it's a weekday or not. Needless to say, I draw 24/7.

[WildSpruceMoose]

6-12 hrs a day eh? school? homework? chores? These are the only reasons i personally don't draw 6-12 hrs a day since I was younger. Ofcourse a job these past 2 yrs to get me to art college not this fall but the next is adding to my time stealers.

I mean its great that you can draw that long, but it does seem strange to be able to. How much do you sleep? What are your marks in School?(doodling during classes!!) I'm sure its possible, but geez...

6-8 hrs perhaps if you have no chores and very little homework, or rich guardians so a job for college is uneeded. I just don't see 12 hrs!!! and a good school career etc.
This may sound critical, but really the questions I have asked would be nice to have answered.

[Gray]

It must be a great compliment that people won't believe you did this at this age.

Personally i think this thread should be about the works and should not evolve in a mystery solving inquisition. I have seen people at that age who can draw that good. They are rare but they are out there. Let's learn from them.

[mushuhaha]

Yea, gray... after all, we are here for constructive comments and learning opportunities.

[Fozzybar]

Originally posted by WildSpruceMoose
What are your marks in School?(doodling during classes!!) I'm sure its possible, but geez...

Doodling during classes is a common behaviour of kids who are interested in art...i did this either and i bet there are many members here who did that too...

Originally posted by WildSpruceMoose
6-8 hrs perhaps if you have no chores and very little homework, or rich guardians so a job for college is uneeded. I just don't see 12 hrs!!! and a good school career etc.
This may sound critical, but really the questions I have asked would be nice to have answered.

12 hrs! She said "6-12 hours a day, depending on whether it's a weekday or not"...so the 12 hours are an extreme which only happens on weekends i guess...and 6 hours is not THAT much...1-2 hours in the school and 4 hours during the rest of the day...remember, as a pupil you have about 8-10 hours of freetime!!!

:chug:

[R_M]

To much bad karma in this thread...

Starfinder you can be 14, or 41, don't care. What counts is your art, and that is cool.

so peace everybody out there, go make drawings not war.

[Max4d]

Originally posted by R_M
To much bad karma in this thread...

Starfinder you can be 14, or 41, don't care. What counts is your art, and that is cool.

so peace everybody out there, go make drawings not war.

Yep, totally agree with this one

Greetz Max4d

[Tekura]

Hi Starfinder, lovely work you have so much talent! I started when I was very young too and continued to doodle through out my life, still do now while at work...
But, I won't need id, I think the reactions from everyone on this thread is enough!
I can't wait to see more of your work gracing the threads of conceptart...

Keep it up! (I don't really need to tell you that, do I?)

Tx

[Bee]

Wow you must have amazing patience to draw on all those hairs, I'm here learning how to cheat that :D! In awe of people like you who can have that kind of ability to put in so much detail.. I looooove detail, but am a want results now kind of person :) *stomps foot* :D

Lucky you having so much time to draw!!! If it's what you want to do, and you obviously have enough talent to find people to pay you to do it, always keep that sacred... I'm just getting back into drawing everyday... something I miss and haven't done in years before my friend sent me here.. now I draw 1.5hrs a day - or three on an off day - thanks DSG!!!! (teehee informercial)

you have a wacom come practise with us in the DSG!!! Expand range of ideas!!!!


Best of luck!!!!!!!!:jump1:

edit: mah badass speeling

edit: BTW I wouldn't call yourself a TOTAL NEWBIE :D it gives a wrong impression of how much work you have put in getting to where you are now - be proud of that! It's harder than you think and most people fail cos they can't or won't put in the time!

[Max4d]

Hey Starfinder

I must apologize for my rude words earlier in this thread. I didn’t meen to upset you, but also for me it was hard to believe. But when I knew how many hours you spend a day and howlong you have been doing this I don’t worry anymore. You have more practise than most of us and that is very valuable. No natural talent can ever compensate that, and your determination is rewarded for sure. You’ll go far, but still have so much to learn. But on the other hand you are still young, so am I :D:D.
About the tallness, well I just thought you were quit tall, don’t be offended. Just kepp making your art and your style. It seems that there is very much personality in your dogs, as if they were persons with there own story to tell. I like that very much.
Another step for you should be to animate things, that would be great but also timeconsuming, but very rewarding :D:D

Greetz Max4d

[BeyondTolerance]

You remind me of Tiger Woods, starting at a very young age, raw talent and a lot of dedication. You're already an amazing artist but considering your age you'll churn out some true masterpieces in your lifetime.

[Japanese Virtue]

*arf arf*

[OrangeCatNinja]

Originally posted by R_M

so peace everybody out there, go make drawings not war.

w0rd to that!

good luck girl, you're gonna tear shit up for sure, and it seems like you already are =)

[WildSpruceMoose]

I wasn't trying to inquisition, I just wanted to know the questions I asked for interest's sake. I enjoy hearing of other lifestyles etc. in different places of the world.

I feel I may have shot the first bullet of this "war" however did not mean to. Next time I want information for personal interest I'll keep it between me and the person being asked, so no one else has to listen I suppose.

This is a "Finally Finished" section, and my comments/questions were out of line and off topic. I apoligize to everyone for my foolish and very novice behaviour.

[coriat]

wow, awesome work:eek:

I want a timemachine to travel 17 years back in time and slap my 1-year-old-self around a bit with my (rather large and heavy) sketchpad :D



:D keep practicing, and post more.

[ChadTHX1138]

I didnt really read any negative comment's here, I think that everyone here has been positive, and the comments are all made in admiration, for her age and the good work. It really is hard to lead someone with her abilties in the right direction when she is doing well on her own. (starfinder this doesnt mean you should be closed minded though)

You guys getting your panties in a wad, I have seen you easily offended by the littlest comments before, lighten up!quit reading into things!

[Crash]

my birth day is Nov8 to :D :beer: :chug:

[DougChiang]

You are very talented at your age and should definetly keep up the work. It seems like you've been teaching yourself through observing realism, which is the best way to start drawing. Most people I know don't have that kind of realistic quality in their work now and they'd be 25+ years of age. Keep this up and you'll be rolling in money.

[ChadTHX1138]

Hmmm...:D

[blackhand]

My dad is Syd Mead. He gives me an allowance in pencils every week. I love my daddy.

[Shughart]

You´ve got to be kidding me?? :eek:

[Rusty]

someone needs to lock you up,not right to be this talented at such a young age.

really impressive stuff starfinder,great future ahead of ya...lots of the mollas..cha ching..:)

Rusty

[Ailah]

Ey C! :D Good to see you here!
Be careful about telling your age though, people DO get suspicious since you're so fucking good!

S'why I haven't told my age yet, people have suspected me too earlier. I hate that.

[Linker]

That is really, really good work, Starfinder. I hope to see more stuff that you've done in the future.

As to this whole situation that's come up about your age. I really don't care if you're 14 or 95, and I don't see why anybody else here should either. I do hope that their yammering doesn't keep you from posting more.

(And I actually registered mainly to say this as I'm more of a 3D artist than a concept artist myself.)

[rimwalker]

I was going to write about how I admired your work and how impressed I was of you but then I realized I would just be repeating everything everybody else has said so I decided not to.

Oh, wait. I just did. Darn.

[poly_cube]

you say your from California- SB by any chance? I recall a freshman who could do FANTASTIC rendering like those you showed. They were down right realistic so i'm a believer in young artist who can kick the crap out of a 38 year old veteran. they are rare but they do exis.

that would be creepy if your the same girl though lol

[Cat_Cat]

Someone please kill me..... I wish I could do something like that at the age of 14/15. Heck, I wish I could do something like that now (18, approaching 19)

Excellent work. Truely magnificent.

[Happeh]

I do not need to comment on the art. everyone else has already done that.

I cannot stop myself from sharing knowledge. Bad habit I have. Makes me seem like a know it all. It is compassion.

I have been thinking of your friends ted and alex since I saw the pic. Been trying to stop myself from being a busybody and I simply cannot. ;)

I have taken the liberty of using the pics of ted and alex of yours in order to demonstrate the point. Below is your original drawing. I would invite people to examine particularly the head and faces of the two individuals. Get a feel for what the look like.

http://www.angrypenis.org/MyImages/ted_alexsmall.jpg

I understood from the posts that you are a youngish person. I will ask that you pass on the following message to your friends.

Self Flagellation will make you a cripple. The older you become the more crippled you become. The more self flagellation, the worse the crippledness. I am purposefully using what to me is an obscure term in order not to offend peoples sensibilities. If your friends do not understand the term, ask them to check a dictionary please.

OK. Why am I bringing this subject up in this thread? The picture very clearly shows the effects of excessive self flagellation. My purpose is to inform people so that they and the people they love do not go down this path, the path to being a cripple.

Please examine the drawing I have altered below. The man on your left self flagelates a small amount. How can you tell? Notice the lines I have drawn are slightly slanted. They are diagonal instead of straight up and down. They follow the lines of the man's head. His head is slanted to the side from self flagellation. The hand for self flagellation is the opposite side the head slants towards.

http://www.angrypenis.org/MyImages/ted_alexaltered.jpg


The man on your right is what drove me to make this post. I do not mean to be insulting when I remark that the man looks "goofy". I believe others might make the same judgement.

His "goofy" look is because he self flagellates excessively.

As you can see in the pic, there is a curved line thru the center of his face. This curve is a direct result of this man self flagellating excessively. When he gets old, he will be physically crippled. He will be partially blind, partially deaf and he will walk with a limp.

You do not want that to happen to your friend do you?

I have also drawn 2 lines on either side of his neck. I believe it is clear from the pic that one side of his neck is shorter than the other. The reason they are uneven is length is excessive self flagellation.

I understand the subject is sensitive. As a guy, I would simply tell him to stop and go get a girlfriend. Please stress to him that unless he moderates his activities or finds a girlfriend, that curved line in his face is only going to become more pronounced. That goofy look in his face will become more pronounced.

Worst of all, he is going to become a physical and mental cripple. No one deserves that. Especially when they are doing it to themselves because of a lack of understanding of the effects of self flagellation.

I hope that you can feel my urge to help. I don't know why, it is important to me. (/me shrugs)

[metalwinds]

bahahahahahahaha. happeh. ..you are awesome

oh yeah, and starfinder.. . ..youre good, damn fucking good.. ..just make sure you are open to the comments people give cuz youre still young and there is always more to learn. peace

[davi]

personally i find crits like the one from Happeh insulting.


christ... don't nit` pick to that exterme. Drawings are aloud to have "errors" and simple misproportions that's what make a drawing a drawing

[cotron]

I think happeh just made a 5 paragraph post about how these kids beat their pud too much.

that said, can we figure out why a 14 year old is rockin shit so hard? is it due to time management? or rather, a lack of feeling the need to post a thesis on the word flagellation?

maybe I'll reply to one of android's sp's with a diagram about how he must masticate too much. "I am purposefully using what to me is an obscure term in order not to offend peoples sensibilities. If your friends do not understand the term, ask them to check a dictionary please."

now, I agree it's ironic that I post a reply saying to get off the messageboards and draw more... but that's life.

[Max4d]

Allright, that’s enough!!!

I have watched this spetacle for too long, it’s got to stop!!!! People are killing this thread. No wonder that Starfinder has not replyed for a long time. I doubt if we will see her again. You guys are all wondering why she is so good and better than you, thinking that she has special abilities instead of looking at your self.

The reson why she is so good, is because she has started drawing early and does it frequently, very frequently. She has so much devotion to it and she shows that in her art. She approaches art as a way of science. Study things, experiemnt with certain things. That is why she is so good. She has so much xp in what she does, that she already achieved high-level ability’s. She is no natural.She has time, xp and especially devotion. Those three things can easaly compensate for natural abilities. She loves to draw and I admire that. That’s why she is so good. If she has talent, than she learns quik. It’s that simple. She does what she must and that’s why she is so good.

So you guys should stop whyning, rather you should feel ashamed because you are not as devoted as she is. Those that er not devoted will not make it. When you have enough time and devotion, you will get very much xp. It’s that simple. And that’s she is just 14 has nothing to do with it, the only advantage that she has over me is that she has 3 more years to learn and much more time. Other tha that, she is no better than any of us. But her devotion, man, it’s great.

So people, get of your lazy but, start posting images and to you Starfinder I can only say one thing: keep it up, never loose faith, stay open to critics( and I don’t mean about that dude who is making shitty comments about turning into the hunchback of Notre Damn) en stay focused and devoted. All will just turn out fine :D:D

Greetz Max4d

[Gray]

right on... Max

[poly_cube]

nicely said max :chug:

[Ostrander]

I would'nt mind seeing more work, maybe if Starfinder has a chance she could share with us a current WIP by starting a WIP thread and teaching us all a thing or two. (If she's not completely offended by everyones comments from this thread). I know I goofed on her originally by commenting on her age and what not but the talent is there, no doubt about that. If animals are what you like to draw then by all means keep practicing, we need more Robert Bateman's and John Seerey-Lester's( 2 renowned wildlife artists) in the world. And there's nothing wrong with mixing a bit of fantasy with it either. ;)

[OrangeCatNinja]

jeez i hope your joking.

/me goes off to use his girlfriend as a self-Flagellation device.

[xulamon]

the flaggelation thesis made me mad, this is about art, not his crusade to save the children. gr8 work, more power to you scorpio girl! thank you for showing your work!
Vincent

[creatix]

Great work Starfinder.

The Flagellation (sp? -- its irrelevant) critique must be a joke.

If it is not a joke then thanks for making me just a bit dumber.

That was quite possibly one of the most retarded thing I have ever heard.

Continue the great work and learn well from the "good" critics.

[Dodge]

good work starfinder, holy cow btw lots of jealous people here.

[Annubissl]

:shocked: :drool: :thumbsup: jealous no, awestruck yes. Damn u goooodddd
got any tips for a wannabe like me?

[steve kim]

Originally posted by Max4d
She has so much xp in what she does, that she already achieved high-level ability’s. She is no natural.She has time, xp and especially devotion. Those three things can easaly compensate for natural abilities.

sounds to me like a roundabout way of saying she has no talent.

talent exists, as does, of course, hard work. clearly starfinder has plenty of both. nothing wrong with that :).

cheers.

[Max4d]

Yes,

You are correct, beacause I do not believe in that natural talent crap. She has talent, but I describe talent a lot different than most of you people do. Just check the talent or education thread in the lounge and you will know what I mean.
She has time and devotion, you don’t need more. They are talent. That’s it. No natural bull, heard that to many time. You are not going to be davinci overnight, but you need practise. Talent( thus ability’s that will HELP you) and education will make you davinci if you want, but devotion is the best part, no doubt. Eevn without talent you could be Davinci, it will only take you longer. :D:D:

Greetz Max4d

[Erik]

Sorry to say but there is such a thing as genius. It's there in any discipline. Talent is the omen of genius but it does not come true without practice and devotion.

I think that with practice and devotion you can be an accomplished painter but you need something else to be da Vinci, Monet, or any other really great artist. Just think of the time these guys lived! Looking back their ideas seem straightforward but they really were not.

[Nordstrand, T]

This has been discussed so many times, and I find it strange that one cannot agree on it.

For what it's worth, talent is a word we use for "unexplainable prodigal skill". Unexplainable things have a tendency to seem "magic" to people. Just look at another word for the same situation, "gifted"- a religious explanation for something we cannot yet comprehend.

This young person has fortunately already revealed the "magic" for us. Michelangelo, another who is commonly believed to have had the "magic" in him, said something like:

"If people knew how much work i have put into this, I would not seem so wonderful".

Keep on keeping on, people.

[Nacrisa]

I have no problem admitting that I am intensely jealous of ms. starfinder.
Green with envy, in fact, that she is doing at 14 what I can't hope to acheive by a far older age (woe is me, etc).

I wish I had had her kind of application and interest in art at that age.

But it's just another name on a long list of greats...

[Tanika]

Originally posted by davi

christ... don't nit` pick to that exterme. Drawings are aloud to have "errors" and simple misproportions that's what make a drawing a drawing


Heh, wish that my art was allowed to have errors in it. x.x Last time I posted [not here, somewhere else] it seemed my art was just one big error. I'm sick of people nit' picking on everything. The only thing nit' pickers should be picking is their nose.
:bash:

[Scubasteve]

:D Those are very nice. Your abilty with textures is unbelievable. How about some cats instead?

[Scubasteve]

:D Those are very nice. Your abilty with textures is unbelievable. How about some cats instead?

[StarFinder]

Sorry for not postin' as much, been rather busy with an art convention, and school.

Glad you all like my stuff, and thanks for the comments and such. Heh.

as for the 6-12 hours, yea, much like someone mentioned, I DID say that depends on school and whatnot. On weekends, believe me, I'll wake up at around 10 in the morning, and paint all day, till well, 1 or 2 in the morning! More than 12 hours! Weekdays, I usually don't get over 6 hours, and sometimes I get under 6 (4-5)..so yeah.

As far as WIP's and tutorials go, don't worry, I'll be postin' some of those too, once I get more time to compile something legible and presentable. Right now I'm tabletless, again (Piece of shit Wacom tablets..has a Graphire 2.that broke..and now my Intuos 2 is malfunctioning too, and I have no clue as to why)


oh, and Happeh...you are one wierd..wierd..person. Uh..yea. Stay away from me.

[Fozzybar]

Originally posted by Tanika
Heh, wish that my art was allowed to have errors in it. x.x Last time I posted [not here, somewhere else] it seemed my art was just one big error. I'm sick of people nit' picking on everything. The only thing nit' pickers should be picking is their nose.

Take it easy, Tanika :)

You just have to pick the right crits...and this is something everyone should manage...

BTW where is your next art? Can't wait to :bash:

;)

[jpedro]

hey starfinder,

your stuff is amazing, and don't get put off by posts like the one that happe made...(how insulting and arrogant can u get?stuff like that is just so unnecessary!)

I look forward to see more. greets,

jpedro:)

[egerie]

Originally posted by StarFinder
On weekends, believe me, I'll wake up at around 10 in the morning, and paint all day, till well, 1 or 2 in the morning! More than 12 hours!
Ah ! Same happened to me when I was your age (agh.. the pain of realisation). That's when my parents took my pencils and papers away to try and stop me from drawing :D

Btw, I'm glad you didn't leave out of all the brouhaha.

[Tanika]

Originally posted by Fozzybar


Take it easy, Tanika :)

You just have to pick the right crits...and this is something everyone should manage...

BTW where is your next art? Can't wait to :bash:

;)


OO' *runs and hides* mewl......

I like crits, but I like -good- crits, not picking on every little thing until an art piece is just one big worthless blob of errors. It -really- brings some artists down. It's been 2 weeks since I've completed anything, I've abandoned many pieces. I envy Starfinder [pardon if I misspelled that] she has patience, something I lack, and confidence, also something I lack.

[black_fish]

This thread has to be the funniest I've seen on this website :D

[Max4d]

Originally posted by VoxHedra



One great teacher of mine said, "Any MONKEY can learn how to paint and draw, but its the talented ones who pick it up real fast." Call it NATURAL APTITUDE. What will take 10 years for an average person to master may take the very talented person only 2. Call it a Big Head Start. Have you ever seen students that progress at a snail's pace? There's many.



vox

I must agree with you, you are right. But i think in my heart that i can be the best in the world, and it's obvious that i am no natural, nor gifted. When i achieve masterhood, i wil have my proof.

Greetz Max4d

[Tanika]

*using the Comic Book Salesman's voice from the Simpsons*

Best.....thread.....EVER!

[Michieru]

happeh your self flagellation post was the most inspiring thing ive ever read, *hug* your so cool.

:evilbat:

[kabuki]

i saw this post a while back. and was amazed at the time this person took for this picture. not at the subject matter, which i dont find appealing personally, but at the sheer patience someone so young has for this. almost every kid i know from 11 - 22, has the patience of a gnat.

even if i hate or love the work, the consideration that needs to be made, is that time is the greatest of solvents.

if you feel your work is bad, more time in your problem areas will break down your barriers. I have been working to help my family for a long time, and art wasnt something i was able to focus on untill i was out of highschool, i am happy for her/? that starfinder has the treasured time and resources to hone her natural ability.

but guys dont get your panties in a bunch, picasso, lenardo, donattello, durer ect, were all EXTREMELY talented individuals. what made them so great wasnt their ability to understand and reproduce form and light, but what they did with those abilities, therein is where lay genius. The natural ability to render light and form is actually a slight deliberate devolving of the sophistication of the human mind. concept and theory are what causes our minds to codify and simplify our visual clues into rapid fire lightning memories. Giving us the ability to navigate a rock strewn mountain, or to run through a crowd. If you reduce this codification and hypersimplification, you are increasing your ability to see, and accurately represent your abilities. This isnt a good thing nor a bad thing. just something that has to be worked at.

I was hoping for more images from starfinder, which is why i rechecked this thread, but instead i saw a very polite flamewar. In all honesty i think this is the worse i have ever seen it on this board, which isnt a bad thing, (and i have admin'd some pretty shitty boards).

Most probably why everyone is so in disbelief of your age, aside from your level of finish, is that you seem to be far more verbally articulate then most 15yr olds. Hell then most 30 yearolds.

my critique would be for starfinder to seek out more mature subject matter. as i feel you (starfinder) can render with the best of them. but concept needs to be honed as well as your motorskills. if you are truly 15, then this will be no small task, but one that is within grasp. Personally i dont care about your age, as that is irrelevant, you asked for a critique.

good luck and i hope to see more, and i will watch your progression with great interest.

[Sammy]

I think I have an "admiration crush"

.. just keep up the good work.. and use your powers for GOOD not concentrated EVIL...

some advice gettin' through high school... everyone gets growin' pains..
when I had the good old growin' pains I stoped drawing for a good 3 years in high school....... don't do like I did.. keep it up!

also be carefull if you start to draw anime... drawing anime screwed my talent up and I'm still tryin' to fix it!

[coriat]

I wanted to post here to say i am shocked to see the stupid replies in this thread...
But i'll do that in the Lounge, as not to hijack this thread.

Instead, i'll just beg starfinder to post more drawings :)
:beer:
great work.

[Dan Milligan]

Run Starfinder run... and don't look back.

you don't need this.

[Big-Dave]

Very nice work. I'm amazed this has had so many replies without any extra work being added. Don't suppose you've got any close ups of these pieces?:D

Had a look at your Yerf site too, the comic strips are pretty funny, hope you'll be posting more of them, and the traditional media pics look great too.

[Lunatique]

Why is it so hard for many of you to believe that she's 14? Kids like this are out there. Remember Joy Ang? She was of around the same age too--and she is admired widely by many, because she's young, talented, and very attractive. Anyone know Timo Vihola? He was doing photorealistic stuff at age 14. He's now 18 and he kicks most of the pro's ass. It only took him a few months to pick up 3D, and he was already doing better 3D than most veterans who's been working in 3D for most of their lives. It's called talent and dedication, folks.

I was one of those precocious teenagers. What I was doing at 14 was thought of as "unbelievable" and "stunning" by adult artists. Photorealism and all that jazz. But the thing is--it was all surface polish. I knew how to render my drawings/paintings like an adult, but it was just pretty eyecandy. I understood very little about the deeper layers of theory like key/value, color termperatures, composition, edge quality...etc. I had to learn those eventually, just like everyone else.

Also, remember, everyone's got their limits. Let's say you have the potential to reach level 10 in your lifetime, and you already reached level 8 by the time you're 15. That means from there on, you only have another 2 levels that you can actually improve on. We all have our potentials, and just that some of us makes faster progress early on. It doens't always mean we'll be geniuses as adults. Child prodigies in most cases plateau out.

Hell, look at my work as an adult. It's really nothing special. And they said I was a genius as a kid.

[dejawolf]

i say, there's always room for improvements.
you just have to take the chance, and hope you get better.
i have been drawing since i was two, and am now at the age of 18. things seems to have started to flatten out, but i have learned a lot the past three years. most notabily about colour usage. and i am still learning.
i have yet to get to grips with compositing a real image.
i am now mostly working on surface and shape (3d modeling and texturing..) so i don't have much time left to draw.
though i hope that i soon will be able to try my hands on really piecing together an image.

[Leviron]

Well by the looks of your work, you don't really need some fancy art course that's probably a waste of money and time. Just do it for the experience, connections and that piece of paper.

The old folks are just complaining because they can't hack it... If those intuos2 tablets were around in 1999, I'll get yelled at too. Practice plays off, coordinating your eyes and hands are the key.

You have the mind to see things on a higher level then most people your age. Although this doesn't mean anything to some people but it does tick some people off. You just pay more attention to detail and you know how to accurately transfer it onto something visually....seriously, no big deal, just another asset.

Life is sometimes about discovering what you are good and bad at.

[Raul-Reznek]

hahah! great stuff

i do the drawing thing in all the classes as well :D

btw are you somehow from Romania or have Romanian relatives stuff?

[KingOfChaos]

O_O

That is awesome! :D

You've definately got animals down, but how are you at humans? I'd love to see some of your other work :)

[Teyon]

Excellent work! Saw this over at CGTalk and loved it then. :) Keep posting your stuff and hurry up and get your website working! :)

As to your age, I can't say I car that much. I only wish I got more serious about art when I was in Juniour High. I didn't get serious about it until 10th grade and didn't take an art class until 12th. My teacher had me assisting her in class explaining some basic ideas to the rest of the students (my peers). She at first suggested I not bother with the class as she felt she couldn't teach me anything I didn't already know but she was kind enough to allow me to stay and help her. I was 17. That year myself and another student (same predicament as myself) was asked by the art teacher to enter in a citywide paint comeptition. We were in the top ten. I got an award, got to have lucnh with the Mayor and Yogi Bera. Never took an art class since.

The whole point of this ramble is to show you who yes, it is more than possible in this day and age to find children with enough skill and talent to make some adults whimper. The best we can do for them is to encourgae them to keep improving and never settle. My mistake was taking a huge break from art while at college. Biggest mistake of my life. I hope you continue to improve and follow your dream, StarFinder.

[MindCandyMan]

The engravings on the armor in the first pic are sweet. :thumbsup:

[darkcult]

oh guys
give it a rest .
will ya?:)

[vladracean]

...........................................cool:ja wdrop:

[wayfarer]

Wow.. O_o
and she´s 14....

nothing more to say except that
I feel :(

[Big-Dave]

The thing that amazes me is that this thread is still geting replies after, how long?

Oh, and her website is up now (http://www.starfinder.biz/)

[Laconic]

The tropical flight and storyteller pictures (in the original post) are basically identical to some images out of a series of cat books. Cats crossed with various animals. One, a parrot cat, is basically the same pose, with the same colours etc. Were you using this as a source or what?

Laconic

[StarFinder]

Actually...no. I haven't even heard of such a book, neither has anyone else I know, for that matter.

[Miguel]

ok... ok... I left my pencils... if you're only fifteen I left my pencils over the table and I'll not touch them never more
buuuhuhuuhuuuu
you're a great artist! congratulations!:chug:

Miguel;)

[Scubasteve]

Starfinder, I think your a terrific artist with great potential. I would love to see more of your work. I have a few suggestions though. First of all, the piece with the knight, I think could use some more dramatic lighting. I would like to see a more obvious light source. Maybe change the time of day. I also think the rocks look a bit flat. Secondly, the subject matter seems a bit strange. Nothing wrong with animals, but I want to see how you handle humans or other types of things. I would have to say that your subject matter reflects your age while the technical aspect of your work reflects someone much older. So I'm not being critical, when I say that. When I was your age I was drawing sculls and transformers, and did't think twice about the subject, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Its just something I would keep in mind. Your are already a great artist and are on your way to great things!!!! I look forward to seeing more of your posts!!!

:D

[sandgrain]

did i miss your life story yet?

do you just love your dog or are you a furry?

just curious, only asking because i have a friend i went to middle school and high school with that is really really really into wolves and animal drawings and am suspicious that he is a furry. i'm not positive, but his obsession with animal drawings and paintings has kind of let me lean toward that idea.

not that it really matters. you're talented to say the very least.