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Newbs
November 23rd, 2005, 10:59 AM
this was for a DW drawoff

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7168/angeline43dpost3yq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

what do YOU think?

solorpower
November 23rd, 2005, 11:02 AM
Like it. :blah: Good perspective lines in the background. How long did it take?

Keenox
November 23rd, 2005, 02:08 PM
Very nice...it looks like a finished work...you should add some color and it will look like a Marvel Comic .... keep going ... u're very good

dron9
November 23rd, 2005, 02:10 PM
sweet
Very nice background. Feels like the character is well integrated.
Cant really add anything constructive. Not sure if you were already planning to do this when coloring, but maybe a little shadow to 'gorund' her abit more... Otherwise lookin good!

jubilee
November 23rd, 2005, 02:18 PM
that is just nuts. the detail of your cityscape is just :x I am curious what size paper that's on and wondering how long it took.

Bad Brownie
November 23rd, 2005, 02:43 PM
I really like it! I love pencil work. ::sigh::

I'm only seeing a slight perspective issue with the thingie right behind her. It doesn't quite line up with the platform she's standing on in my eye. It's at a straight on view when everything else is at an angle (except the top part of the structure, which is at the correct angle). Easily fixed.

I love her hair, hehe.

MrBobMarley
November 23rd, 2005, 02:52 PM
Clean pencils man. I love the position she's in, the bg is pulled off nicely, it'll look awesome in color too. The facial expression is throwing me off though. Is she pissed cause she's out in the rain?

noiion
November 25th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Wow! Some wicked details, Newbs. I love it. The only thing that bothers me is her left (our right) leg. It looks kind of broken. Maybe you can angle the thigh out a little bit more or angle the lower leg in a bit. Any plans on coloring?

koroshiya001
November 25th, 2005, 05:56 PM
Damn, that's nice. Pretty kick-ass cityscape.

A few things I noticed though; her shoulder and the tilt of her head looks kinda wierd, like shes holding a phone to her ear or something. She looks really thin, but maybe its just me. The angle of the gun on the left (our left) more tilted than the hand appears to be, but again, that could just be me.

Just minor things. Im such a sucker for clean pencils.

JERI
November 25th, 2005, 06:13 PM
What koroshiya said about the shoulders. Well there's nothing wrong with the anatomy, it just look like a really uncomfortable pose.

Your background rocks!

ruzkin
November 25th, 2005, 09:25 PM
From the way her hips are positioned, I'd expect her left foot (on our right) to be positioned closer to us... to be where it is, she'd very twisty and uncomfortable (and not balanced).

The Hellraizer
November 25th, 2005, 10:07 PM
incredible. I love your perspective, and i really appreciate the girls body, you did great. The female form is something i still have yet to master, and yours is very inspiring.

rasdasa
November 25th, 2005, 10:54 PM
Very nice cityscape, and well rendered figure, but like a few have already commented, she's off balance. To us it would seem that her right leg(our left) should be supporting the weight because of how straight and rigid it is when compared to her left(our right) leg and because of where the uppwer torso&head are located. If her right shoulder(our left) was more dipped down than the right, and if her head was also shifted over, then you'd get a more natural pose. Of course that means a copious amount of redrawing the actual bloody figure, so let's just leave it as a future note. Remember the distribution of balance in a body, if one region bends in one direction the rest of the body will automatically try to regain the distribution of balance through the other limbs/regions.

ras

Vague
November 25th, 2005, 11:18 PM
i think its very good.
The only problem im seeing is that her neck is kind of weird. look closely at it any you will probably see what im talking about.

Newbs
November 29th, 2005, 05:41 PM
Vague- i think its very good.
The only problem im seeing is that her neck is kind of weird. look closely at it any you will probably see what im talking about.

Yeah, I see your point, there is something off about that neck. thanks for the feedback!

rasdasa -Very nice cityscape, and well rendered figure, but like a few have already commented, she's off balance. To us it would seem that her right leg(our left) should be supporting the weight because of how straight and rigid it is when compared to her left(our right) leg and because of where the uppwer torso&head are located. If her right shoulder(our left) was more dipped down than the right, and if her head was also shifted over, then you'd get a more natural pose. Of course that means a copious amount of redrawing the actual bloody figure, so let's just leave it as a future note. Remember the distribution of balance in a body, if one region bends in one direction the rest of the body will automatically try to regain the distribution of balance through the other limbs/regions.

ras

This is a great assesment and analysis, thank you very much for the comments and great advice

The Hellraizer incredible. I love your perspective, and i really appreciate the girls body, you did great. The female form is something i still have yet to master, and yours is very inspiring.

that's awesome, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I love the female form as well and it's fun to take liberties in drawings of it. Perspective is a wonderful tool for cityscapes. I'm glad you enjoy the essence of what I'm doing thanks again for the wonderful comments it's always nice to hear that some people like what I do.

ruzkin From the way her hips are positioned, I'd expect her left foot (on our right) to be positioned closer to us... to be where it is, she'd very twisty and uncomfortable (and not balanced).

You're are right about the unbalanced-ness of the figure. thanks for taking a close look and giving some feedback.

JERI What koroshiya said about the shoulders. Well there's nothing wrong with the anatomy, it just look like a really uncomfortable pose.

Your background rocks!

thanks a bunch.

koroshiya001 Damn, that's nice. Pretty kick-ass cityscape.

A few things I noticed though; her shoulder and the tilt of her head looks kinda wierd, like shes holding a phone to her ear or something. She looks really thin, but maybe its just me. The angle of the gun on the left (our left) more tilted than the hand appears to be, but again, that could just be me.

Just minor things. Im such a sucker for clean pencils.

thanks for the critique. Good points all around. I definately could use more practice drawing women accurately. She's thin AND athletic:teeth:

noiion Wow! Some wicked details, Newbs. I love it. The only thing that bothers me is her left (our right) leg. It looks kind of broken. Maybe you can angle the thigh out a little bit more or angle the lower leg in a bit. Any plans on coloring?

thanks!! See notes above about how I need more practice drawing women:S
No plans to color. know anyone who'd be willing to play around?? hint, hint:wink:

Newbs
November 29th, 2005, 05:51 PM
MrBobMarley Clean pencils man. I love the position she's in, the bg is pulled off nicely, it'll look awesome in color too. The facial expression is throwing me off though. Is she pissed cause she's out in the rain?

Thanks!! I've never seen the character in any other expression. maye she's always pms..ing all the time? Was trying to capture the essence of the character so I kept her pissed.

Bad Brownie I really like it! I love pencil work. ::sigh::

I'm only seeing a slight perspective issue with the thingie right behind her. It doesn't quite line up with the platform she's standing on in my eye. It's at a straight on view when everything else is at an angle (except the top part of the structure, which is at the correct angle). Easily fixed.

I love her hair, hehe.

I love pencils the most too!!the thingy directly behind her is a pipe...thingy. thanks for the comments!

jubilee that is just nuts. the detail of your cityscape is just I am curious what size paper that's on and wondering how long it took.

Thank you so much for the compliments! It was done on 11X17 comic board and took about 8-10 hours

shirik sweet
Very nice background. Feels like the character is well integrated.
Cant really add anything constructive. Not sure if you were already planning to do this when coloring, but maybe a little shadow to 'gorund' her abit more... Otherwise lookin good!

hey thanks a bunch. Good idea about the shadow.

Keenox Very nice...it looks like a finished work...you should add some color and it will look like a Marvel Comic .... keep going ... u're very good

thank you very much.

solorpower Like it. Good perspective lines in the background. How long did it take? thanks!! As stated above it was about 8-10 hours. I'm not exactly sure as I didn't time myself and worked on and off on it for a couple days but that's a standard time for something like this.

egerie
November 29th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Someone likes Michael Turner ;)

The Bry
November 29th, 2005, 09:04 PM
That did come out really nice man, keep up the great work what'd you use for a ref on the city? or did you just pull that out of thin air?

trev
December 3rd, 2005, 08:57 PM
Overall, its very good :) However there are some issues with her anatomy and perspective. Im going to be quite anal about it so I apologise if Im sounding harsh. It looks like shes shrugging since her shoulders are up - this makes her
look very tense.

Her shoulders are very broad which makes her loook masculine, also top heavy - generally the shoulders are not much wider than the hips, so use her hips as a reference.

Her waist is also too thin on the right side, it looks like a chunk is missing - I think it would work you gave it a shallower curve so that there was some flesh between her abbs and her side.

Her left leg also looks like it has been bent at a rather painful angle (perhaps thats why she looks so glum?...har har ;) ). Her kneecap is facing towards us while the foot and leg are pointing out to the side - The foot should be pointing in the same direction as the kneecap since they are attached to the same bone. I should point out that he foot does have some limited rotation from side to side, just not this extream.

I don't know if you want to fix this image but a sujestion to save you drawing it all again (or rubbing out that will probably smudge) you could use some layout paper to trace her again and redraw the bit you want to fix, along with new bits of background, scan both in and composite them together in photoshop before colouring it.

Anyway its good stuff, keep at it!