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[metaphysiks]

new guy, i like drawing and i like criticism so uh ill try to post everyday, sort of like a new years resolution thing for myself
c&c welcome, enjoy
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/some_concept_chick.jpg

some concept im working on, lotsa probs
april 13th

[StephenC]

a new daily sbook...i am pleased,...hope to see more

[metaphysiks]

another day another drawing, actually two today
hope i can stay on the ball i will try not to add too many stupid designs like these
oh well
again c&c always welcome
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/medieval/skelly_concept.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/boobie_creep.jpg

thanks for looking u guys rock
chris

[Lukias]

Nice work dude.. but I have to say that the first piece does appear to be a notch up from the later two. The forms are nicer and definitley more accurate as opposed to the others.. they lack anatomy wise.
Sorry for the standard advice, but you as with me and most others, its to the learning board you go!!

Keep em coming, I like what you have and I know you will be producing some top shelf work in the near future.

[metaphysiks]

nothing great right now look tonight for more, just spilled ink all over myself hahahah
this is just an animated character for sumthin goin on right now
5 min drawing
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/animated_character_1.jpg

[metaphysiks]

3 o clock in the morn, supposed to be april 15th piece but whatever
i really lost interest so i spent about 20 min on this, i need to find time for crazy stuff
whatever enuff excuses
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/female/chick_experiment.jpg
chris

[sin]

wow dude these all rock!

on a side note, are you in the anime club at vcu?

[metaphysiks]

thanks sin, no i am not in the anime club, i actually think it broke up but i dont know
are u from richmond, how do you know about such things?
chris

[metalwinds]

i like the lighting you used on the bottom piece. .. i dont really understand the character design though.. . those floaty thingies are wild, WILD I TELL YOU! .. . ....... . . ...ahem... .

[metaphysiks]

fell asleep before i posted this little doodle
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/plain_ol_sketch.jpg
chris

[metaphysiks]

just a WIP at 1 in th4 mornsorry its but not great
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/quick_painting.jpg

[metalwinds]

cool photoshop doodle. id like to see this one taken further. i think the nose and mouth are a little off their axis though.. .. the head seems to be leaning to the left a little, but the nose and mouth are drawn straight up and down. good start though.. .peace

[sin]

yeah physics, im from richmond, i live in varina though :p... vcu fun?

[metaphysiks]

so damn ashamed of myself it has been a couple days since i have posted, lot o shit goin on
havin a lot of trouble doin some stuff but here is some quick stuff
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/really_rough_paladin.jpg

hey sin, vcu rocks you should come up and we can have a sketchbook session of sorts or do whatever
later
chris
CRITS PLEEZ i hope to get back on track soon

[sin]

hey yeah that sounds great!

gimme a time and a place and im there..

great job on the paladin, give him more hips though, he seems unbalanced, unless you're not done, then ill shut up

[metaphysiks]

been a while, im like doing a real bang up job of posting everyday, truth is i have been in a real weird mood and havent had anything i like let alone anything to spend time on. hung out with evan ( sin on the boards ) and that cool bastard helped me break free, just wish i had some stuff to show for it.
later
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/medieval/my_high_school_hero.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/medieval/ogre_junk.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/wierd_alien.jpg

painter and photoshop stuff on the way

chris

[metaphysiks]

trying painter, great program, not a great painting
i have noticed that i have had some bald guy with a design over the left eye fetish lately, damn me
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/painter_experiment.jpg

[sin]

dude this stuff is damn cool!! the samurai (green dude) up top, is in fact, top notch. i love it, the bald eye tat fetish is teh hawtnezz, no worries. youre doing great, keep up the GREAT work!!

[metaphysiks]

thanks evan
workin on some stuff now amidst a design project

semester is almost over which means more drawing
I STILL NEED CRITS and COMMENTS so i can work on some stuff

[sin]

erm a crit could be do some more concepts with action, everything's very static and still, add some action! like grrr fighting, grrrr bloood, ya know? Liven them up a little!!

[metaphysiks]

thats good advice evan
thanks a lot
later
look for stuff tonite
chris

[rubygenesis]

not bad meta ~_~ i really like the first image you posted,
i see you used a blue layout pencil to get the basic form down.
action poses would be kewl, i draw a lot of 'stand around' characters myself heh...

[metaphysiks]

too damn late and i am too damn tired, even tho it is not really that kate but i am too damn tired. just a painter sketch and i might not finish it but it is a wip nonetheless. i actually need painter and photoshop help, i have a real problem getting the color to be bold, i always get images that are blurry and stupid. if anyone can point me in the right direction in terms of learning to tighten up a piece or whatever i would greatly appreciate it.
chris
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/scifi/mecha_wip.jpg

[metalwinds]

yo chris, sorry i havent replied in a while.. .ive been really busy with projects and shiznaz, as you know. i think the samurai is a cool drawing, but i dont like the color selection or the style you colored it.. .i think you have a lot better colored pieces than that. i really dont like the guy below him (no offense), i just think that overall its a weak drawing. im not really feelin the design or the way you shaded it.. . it looks like somethin you would have done in 10-11 grade. im diggin the alien type dude below him though, but i think the shoulders are a little out of alignment. just a note/suggestion.. .on quick drawings like this, it might be cool to see a generalized light source, just a little shading to push the image out some (its not really necessary though, just a thought). the comp face is pretty cool, got a few suggestions though. 1. the proportions are a little off 2. theres not a set light source, and 3. i think you should try adding other colors to the painting.. you seem to stick to tints and shades of the same color, when you could be using other colors to really push the values in the right direction, and make the piece more interesting. the mech design is pretty sweet, nice to see something like this from you. its front legs dont look like they would be able to support the body though.. .they seem like they would need a joint or something in them to help with the support. also, you should think more about how the mech would move.. some of the joints dont look like they would have any sort of rotation or function to them. sorry if all this seems really harsh, but i think what you and me both really need right now are lots of REAL criticism, and not just people saying that they like our work. im not exactly sure why, but i think that you are going to have an artistic breakthrough soon.. ... your posts have so many different styles to them and some of the work is MUCH stronger than others, but i think youre on the verge of taking your art, and your style, to the next level. keep it up man.. . .im lookin forward to our drawing session this weekend, maybe i will finally start producing something that im satisfied with (and i ll be able to scan all my shit and finally get to post again). .. .hehe

[metaphysiks]

finally, exactly what i have been waiting for. thank you so much, i am so glad that i have no assignments left, now is time to devote to my craft. no more crappy quick pieces.
thanks again. this weekend will be fun.
chris

[metaphysiks]

i feel tired, oh so tired.. enough of that.. here is an image, not great but im so tired. went out with metalwinds tonight to draw and this is what i got. oh well
no more classes, more time to draw
hahahahahaha
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/scary_dude.jpg

[metaphysiks]

new stuff today, i was hanging out with metalwinds and chris powell
having fun but not drawing anything great
i really need some finished stuf
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/male/quick_wolverine.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/scifi/a_beastly_rough_concept.jpg

hope i can get some C&C
thanks
chris

[metaphysiks]

another day with the guys
more incomplete sketeches


http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/soldier_guy.jpg

[Tayama]

You're Awsome!!!

Still don't have a website ? :D

[metaphysiks]

no web site yet but i will have one by the end of the summer
thanks for the nice comments

[StephenC]

how much time u spend on these?...just wondering

[metaphysiks]

dont spend nearly enough time on anything lately. i have some finished stuff ill be posting soon. i would say about an average of 20 min. why?

[metaphysiks]

finally i have some stuff to post, its been busy, but its the end of the semester so im thankful. ive been drawing but not scanning. so here it is. I WOULD LOVE SOME CRITIQUES. thanks

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/a_cop_robot.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/female/tech_chick.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/female/squid_lady.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/female/chick_in_dress.jpg

[metaphysiks]

i really need some c&c, im sort of in a rutt
please help me out
chris

[Coma]

Okie

In your last post:

1:Robots tend to need more structure to them, pull your forms out in rough straight lines and make sure your visualizing the object as if it where in front of you.

2: Cool one, though her left boot bothers me because the top of it is not in the same prospective as the other boot.

3: interesting, though the pose seems unnatural for a humanoid.

4: good form and style, though the red seems loud, I understand its just a sketch.

[jester]

metaphysiks - good crits are hard to come by, best way is to give it yourself freely and hope to attract people to your site. Also it usually helps to ask directly what troubles you.


1) Looks good to me, but I'm a learner in markers, too.

2) Anatomy seems to be ok, but she wouldn't want to walk or run in these boots :D

3) reminds me of Star Wars concept art. Looks nice.

4) pose is too static, dress is too red, all in all too flat.

You asked for it ;)

Jester

[metalwinds]

meta, sorry i have torn up your shiznat yet.. .ive been pretty busy lately.

the robots left leg looks funny.. .like its bent in a strange way (unlike the right leg). the arms dont look like they would be functional because there arent any joints. also, you need to work on your values more. ..the shading looks very awkward and forced. ..watch your light source too. on the second one, it looks like you were going for a simple standing pose, but she appears to be off center, making the picture difficult to understand (yeah i know, im being VERY picky). i think the problem is the placement of the legs because both legs arent directly under the body. the design is pretty cool and easy to read, other than the ambiguous thing on her shoulder. the third is cool.. .nice and simple, looks like something out of star wars, but the face is a little off and the eyes are bugging me. the last one (in my opinion) is pretty cool. i like the asainish influence. i dont mind the red, but i think the pink needs to be more pronounced to balance the red out. i dont like the use of colored pencils and markers to color the dress either. if the colored pencils were used over top the markers i think that would work much better. maybe the overall design would be more pleasing if you had some asain embroidery or pattern on the red? just a thought.

as far as the crits go, i know what you mean. i dont get many either. you may want to post your stuff on sketches and doodles.. .i always seem to get many more crits on there than i do in the daily skecthbook. well, back to drawing... .. .

[metaphysiks]

thanks a lot everyone thats what i needed, thank you thank you very much
back to drawing

[metaphysiks]

hey just want you to know that i have been drawing and i do have drawing sbut i cant scan or use the comp right now so i must wait to show you. sorry
please be patient
chris

[adien]

nice work metaphysiks! hey we're not too far from each other. :) I'm actually trying to get a job in tech support in richmond. (crosses fingers)

you're drawings are pretty good, i like the marker work. not much to say that hasn't already been covered.
i really like the robot, except for a few things. his back is bowed like he has vertebrae, but there are no joints visible, no joints in the elbows, and the top of the left leg is curved to much, when i think it should be straight (at least as straight as the right leg), considering it's made of metal. This guy looks like he could move pretty fast if he needed too. :)

[chudzta]

hey im not far away either... in williamsburg

given time u could really develop. the last batch had some good stuf,, the whole red dress things has... yea avoid it.. its like super saturated red and no other deep color around... anywho, the other couple things above it were swell..
and i liked the one u started the thread out with, keep at it - ry

[metaphysiks]

some more shite, just doodles.. waiting for lungs site.
hope he read that too
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/demon_dude.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/big_man.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/concept_of_a_man.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/crab_man.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/satyr_guy.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/cool_knight.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/graffiti/meta_tag.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/quick_samurai_sketch.jpg

again just doodles, working on some photoshop stuff right now so i can finally post a finished image ha we'll see
about time i put stuff up
im lazy what can i say
chris

[adien]

hmm.. great stuff! i'll try to say something about each of them. :)

no.1
nice sense of action in this one. his right hand looks a little larger that the left hand. might be just me. his legs are huge! but i think that is the character, not a flaw. not sure about the line of the right side of his chest. looks a little off. might be just me again. a little hard to tell in an unfinished sketch with your over and under exaggerated proportions.

no.2
i would not want to get on this guys bad side. only thing i can really see with this one... i think the right shoulder pad should be shifted forward around the should a little. looks like it's twisted just a bit too far back.

no.3
don't see much wrong with this one. first impression: an armored arisocrat/diplotmat? :)



No.4
very very cool armour and gauntlets. overly feminine waist though.

No.5
alright! another fast guy! :)
the legs on this guy are great. did you take the idea from your previous robot concept? minor detail, in the left leg, the knee joint and hock look slightly twisted away from the viewer. looking at this more, i'm noticing now that there seems to be a little too much perspective in the hip joint. we shouldn't see so much of the front of the joint i don't think. other minor detail, his right hand is twisted slightly too far, showing slightly too much of the back of the hand. man i envy your drawing skill. :)

No.6
damn, this is sweet stuff. hmm... his feet look to be on the same plane, and his legs look straight, but his center of balance is tilted slightly. giving the impression that one leg is slightly longer than the other. man i have to learn to hatch and crosshatch. it's so much better and faster for basic sketches, rather than rendering out every drawing to give depth. i'm learning alot looking at your drawings. :)

no.7
graff writing? i know absolutely nothing about graff, in any way shape or form. i won't comment. :)

no.8
pen work! good pen work! :D samurai! woot! :) hmm.. love the swords, the armor.. left knee joint looks hyper extended.. like his leg is slightly past straight (not an impossible pose, but certainly not as comfortable as the rest of the pose looks) and the left knee-cap is a little off. should be twisted a bit outwards to fall in line with the leg i think. (or you could twist the shin-pad and foot inwards to fall in line with the knee pad, and that might fix the hyper-extension look too. :) )

mad skills dude! i hope to be this good someday! :D
of course, my eye might be a little off tonight too, it's late. if you disagree with any crits, you're probably right. :)

[metaphysiks]

hey man i appreciate the awesome comments, i know the drawing are not that great but i have been posting anything so even the junk gets up which unfortunately was this last set of stuff. thanks for the comments it was a great boost of confidence. back to drawing.
chris

[metaphysiks]

some more stuff, not much to say some older stuff that i forgot to put up
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/quick_robo_guy_unfinished.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/indian_dude_that_looks_cool.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/traditional/figure_2.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/traditional/figure_5.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/traditional/figure_8.jpg
thanks
chris

[metaphysiks]

just got done lookin at jon fosters new book and i must say that he is amazing and i am inspired so i am off to draw. update soon, i need some comments.

[metalwinds]

hey meta. the 2 recent submissions are good, but i dont think that they match up to what you were doing when we were hangin out. most of the designs run together (reffering to the armored guys) because the characteristics of the armor are very similar: huge shoulder, big breastplate, large forearms. these recent pics dont seem to be on par with some of your earlier works. keep drawing though, you know i will be

[metaphysiks]

danny you are so friggin right, i like dont know whats going on its like i am runnigng throught the same motions. i had some different stuff today. ill post soon, im trying to find inspiration i think i have hit my first artistic block of this summer. but enough excuses thank you for hittin me in the face.
chris
p.s. i saw joey and his work and...... damn
his website coming soon
call me

[Vader]

some really good stuff mate. I like the stuff on page two the best. The alien mainly.

[ac_osorio]

I got say, you are good.
Keep it coming!!!

Any colors?

[metaphysiks]

well it has been a while, i have been workin two jobs but i had some inspiration kinda so i decided that i do need to get familiar with painter and i do need color pieces so i gave it a shot. i already cant stand the damn pic but i have to post sumthin right
gimme comments, i wanna know whats up
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/small_craft_concept.jpg
thanks

[metaphysiks]

got off work and had to try it again
this one is quicker
if anyone has suggestions on where to get some painter tips then please let me know
thanks
C&C welcome
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/speeder_painter_pic.jpg

[jester]

In case you don't know it already, go to this forum:

http://www.critical-depth.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=7&sid=38b7642ca92e4c4f8f8cd00de4639c6f

The main site also has an archive of the old Painter Can Forum - I got valuable tips there!

Jester

[ac_osorio]

I like your work a lot! Let's get that Painter rolling!!
Keep up the good work!

Know le'ts get busy!!!! Drawing rules!!!

[R_M]

:chug:

[metaphysiks]

i really appreciate the link Jester. it was very helpful, now if only people would give me ideas and talent i would be set.
chris

[J.Peckham]

damn boy. you rock. i have never seen this thread before. i'm going to start distorting my forms a little now, thanks for the quick inspiration boost.


JKP

[metaphysiks]

thats awful nice of you to say. thanks a lot
im still workin on it, the more constructive criticism i get the better.
thanks
chris

[buffaloe]

Really nice work here, metaphysiks! I love the way you bring out your frustrations in your characters ("my legs can't support my body!") haha, great....

You were talking early in the thread about tightening up your drawings... my suggestion would be to to place more definate lines.... for example, in the orangey, transformer looking robot, you've got a nicely defined area in the bottom left (the rounder part) where the lines are nice and tight. Bringing that sort of thing into the rest of your painting would be a great start! Also, maybe heighten the contrast.... like in the sketch of the chick on May 14, the part I like most is the elbow. It's a really defined, high contrast area. You seem to really know how those shapes come together.

Anyway, hope that helps! :)

[metaphysiks]

u the man buffaloe, thats what i like, constructive criticism
u get karma points man ill help you out
chris

[buffaloe]

sounds great! I can use all the crits i can get! I'll keep an eye on you if you'll do the same for me :)

[metaphysiks]

hope the crits can help buffaloe
chris

[metalwinds]

not bad painter studies. the first one doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. .. it kinda looks like it would fall apart when you try to use it. the racer thing is neat, but the cylinders on the side arent aligned properly. i think what these are lacking most is depth. you dont have a lot of values in them.. .convert them to grayscale to see what your values look like. also, the machines lack texture. im not good at adding tecture to digital stuff, but i thought i would point that out. one of lungs recent submissions has great texture in it.. .maybe check it out for some more inspiration. peace out dog

[metaphysiks]

hey thanks danny, i will keep those things in mind as i try to learn the program and i will plan out the pictures, i had no drawing laid down for the paintings. thanks for the comments here is a dumb drawing
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/some_ddr_chick.jpg
chris

[metalwinds]

hehe, shes funny. pay more attention to how light would fall on the figure. some of the values look out of place and some areas you didnt shade should have been (this is what im studying right now, and its a pain in the ass). also, her legs arent the same length. ..well, from the knee down at least. keep em comin

[metaphysiks]

yeah that drawing is a piece of shit
chris

[buffaloe]

hmmm, i think to make that pose believable, the left hip should be up higher than the right, since she's leaning like that... (that would also bring the knee up to lenghten the shin area that metalwinds was talking about) Or you could bend the left knee.....

[metaphysiks]

been in a slump but i will post soon. i need lukias

[StephenC]

Alrite mr Physikz, you're sketches are good, you have intermediate understanding of anatomy form and shadow, know your facial features generally. I'm rthinking that you're at the stage where you don't want your sketches to just be good anymore but you want them to be great. I asked you before how much time you spent on these, i was wondering because i think you would benefit from trying to push your pieces further, when you feel like its done thats the time you have to ask yourself..ok now what...instead of 20 minutes on a drawing try working for an hour..maybe even two...this will push your brain past what you already know and into things you dont know and also draw more on your creativity in a design. If theres something in particular you would like comments on point it out...for example i see that you know a little bout eyes, but did you know that the point where your eyebroms begin to slope down is along the sma ecurve as the eyesocket? So if you know where the socket is you'll know where to place your eyebrows..of course this changes with expression as the muscle moves but the socket still providse the structure underneath...

[metaphysiks]

stephenc is a god now. you have managed to put into words what frustration i have had for a long time now. it has been hard for me to worka long time on my drawing because i get all scatterbrained and another problem is exactly what you said, when i first start i am too concerned with the outcome of the drawing and i want everything to be good rather than work out the problems i have. thanks a lot and i hope that i can count on you in the future for some crits.
chris

[metaphysiks]

about time i did something, still trying to use painter
this is about an hour
crits is good
thanks
meta
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/tribal_guy_in__painter.jpg

[adien]

hey man, great stuff. on you're last post, there's a couple issues i've noticed. right beneath his bottom lip, on the left side (our left), there is a bulge that sorta looks like he has something in his mouth on the outside of his gums. maybe he's chewing tobacco though. :) i think it's the oval highlight there that gives that impression.

his ears don't look like they are attached to the head, but i get the feeling you roughed out the entire thing, including the ears, then detailed the face, and just haven't gotten to the rest of the picture yet, including the ears.

last thing, the purple over the eye on the right side of the painting looks a little too dominant. the purple in the rest of the picture is quite a bit more subtle. the purple over that eye could still be more dominant than any other purple in the pic, but i think maybe there is too much of a difference between it and the rest of the pic?

keep in mind this is coming from someone who can't paint yet and knows next to nothing about it. great stuff, want to see more! :) :chug:

P.S. i check your thread every time you post, i just don't always have any crits, being a noob to sketching. :)

[metaphysiks]

hey adien thanks a lot for the comments, you are 100 percent right, the image is still not done and i will finish it as soon as i find time. you are in fact thought the only person that did not comment on the blurriness of the pic. one day i hope to know what im doing. thanks again man for the crits.
meta

[Lukias]

Rock on my sketching brutha, your skills are ever on the rise, I do believe you'll be a master of the arts in the mere blink of the eye.
Do me a favour and do more, faster.
Ever tried sketching ref's... say from some standard household mags and spending like 2 mins on each one?.
Think correct placement over exact accuracy. (eg the eyes can merely be correctly places circles)

[rubygenesis]

yes, i agree with wut stephenC and Lukias have mentioned. But if you find that sitting for more than 30min on one piece is more then enough for you (as it is for me some of the time) i find its more efficient to take 10-20min just laying down the basic form for an image (usually on my lunchbreak @work) then i leave it till i get home, now i go back with fresh eyes and darken in and or correct lines. sometimes it helps to have patients, to not force a piece to completion in one sitting. ~_~ your definatly coming along, nice work.

[metaphysiks]

OMFG, i just completely shit my pants. it means a lot getting any crits at all from everyone and it means a whole lot more getting it from two artists that i heavily admire. thanks you everyone and saying that i shall get back to work.
meta

[metaphysiks]

heres another quikie not nearly as successful but i am learning the program which is the idea. no ref used
c & c welcome
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/clown_quickie.jpg

[sin]

wow dude everything's looking really great, you've really really progressed since the last time I've checked out your work, which wasn't too long ago. Keep it up and post more, foo'. Also, when do you guys come back?

[metaphysiks]

hey evan thanks a lot, i have been doing a lot of different things that i have not been posting. i will post more as i experiment more with different things. im moving back into my apartment on august 1st, but wont be living in richmond again until like a week later. we will definately call you when we get back. we got a lot to catch up on.
meta

[Lukias]

HELP!!! HOW???

Not sure if your reffering to painting when you ask me for help, cos if so then I'm probably not the person to ask.. considering I have painted all of 1 pic's in photoshop ever and that was with dodge n burn. haw.

Anyway, re your sketch work.

As I continue to sketch, more so now than ever and it seems to continualy be going this way.. and that is, as I said, speed work.. I am laying down *some* of my base sketches in like 5mins and then working them as I see fit. Some come to what I feel is completion in 20mins, some 2 hours. After a while you may get a feeling for each sketch, some you'll feel comfortable just leaving it at a semi rendered stage, some just as a line piece, others fully rendered with all the hoo dakies.
As they say, I picture speaks a thousand words.. so the best advice I could give you is.. go hunt jsweets sketch thread, check his amazing minimilistic sketch works. Try it, I am and I think it has already helped me alot..

little tips while I think of them..

--Try holding your pencil at different lengths, forget instant tightness(which comes with holding it near the tip) grip it towards the back end and let your lines go free, uncontrolled yet intentional, use mulitple lines to try find your forms.. amongst the mass of thatched lines you can often find those which work, sometimes better than you might have expected. (In some of my works.. hmm maybe more on the ones I haven't posted yet, you'll see alot of underlying lines that run willy nilly). I'm now enjoyin getting messy, rubbing out, sketching over.. all these new things I'm seeing thanks to getting messy and then re-working, I used to have to have a spanking white page, now I like it to look.. used. A couple of times recently I have rubbed out a pic that I had worked say, for an hour on.. but only rubbed half of it out and left bits that looked cool, asthetically cool, nothing that made any sense. Then I would draw over that area with my new pic and some strange shit would unfold and I get these unintentional, yet very welcome effects and shades.

-- I saw Stephen giving you some helpfull advice re eyebrows and I thought of a couple of handy things that have worked for me. Now these are by no means exact tips, if you will...
Generally someones eyes are one eye width apart, I follow this and it has seen me right so far.
An expressionless faces mouth(or just a mouth thats not expressing anything) will finish with its corners in line with each pupil.
-- Want someone to look relaxed or tired.. or "i don't give a shit".. then increase the height of the eyelid, there by decreasing the size of the actual visible eye area.

--On eyes: Recently I have found that you can construct really cool eyes, almost by spending as little time as possible on them. I literally do a couple of sideways ovals and then over chuck some other semi circles or random shady squiggles. I don't recommend trying to do a complete visable outline of the entire eye, plus the entire iris and then the pupil.. unless you know exactly what your doing and have the patience and presician then its pointless.. hey its pretty pointless anyway if you can get real and real cool looking eyes down in one tenth of the time.
Check jsweet and Wes9000, those amonget others have it sussed imo.

Any questions just ask

(though I may have rambled enough already)

HAppy sketching!

[metaphysiks]

thank you soooo much, i want to be you padawan learner, i will get started right now.
thanks so much man. i owe you everything.
:bow:

[metalwinds]

sorry i havent reponded to your stuff in so long, i havent gotten on the comp much(pc). seems like you got some killer feedback from some brilliant artists, so there isnt much for me to say other than im not gonna let you reach greatness without me. .. hehe. your painter stuff is coming along nicely, so now i want to see some bodies on these heads. it wont be long now before we re back at school and drawing. .. we gotta hook up with sin again before classes start. peace out dog

p.s.- what college is joey goin to?

[behemot5]

i like your work a lot..no real crits to add.. you have your own style and good ideas....i like it

[metaphysiks]

metalwinds: yeah man, greatness will be a journey we make together man. we still need to try to get together before we move in, but work is takin my time. thanks for the compliments. yeah evan will be with us drawing as soon as we are back.

behemot5: thanks for the compliments man that means a lot to me. i hope that my future stuff will be appealing to you.
meta

[ac_osorio]

I like your stuff very much. I had the chance to read what the guys were saying before me, so I think they pretty much hit every angle of the crits.
Keep taking time on your work and try to push a little more not on the things you know you do well, but new things like, the fabric or texture of the clothing or new ways to strap around the undies of the girls.
Keep em coming my friend. You got skills!

[metaphysiks]

well thanks for the comments ac, i really appreciate it. i was looking through my sketchbook and i think that my drawings have been coming along but i have really benn concentrating on how my digital stuff is coming along and now i run into the problem of having a busted tablet. so yeah i am kinda mad, i dont know hoe to fix it, i plug it in and the light flashes and it wont read my mouse or stylus. i am freaking out and i do not have the money to get another one. aint that a bitch. oh well, now i have to find time to scan some of my drawings and we will see what you guys think.
just want to give props to lukias for making me remember why it is that i love to draw. props to him for making his life work for him and traveling the way he is. his drawings have been great.
meta

[metaphysiks]

hey metal forgot to answer your question: believe it or not joey is lookin at VCU. i am mad excited, that boy is the shit
meta

[metaphysiks]

finally got off my ass and scanned some stuff. nothing great but i have been keeping in mind the advice that i have gotten from all of the artists kind enough to respond to me. thanks guys
practiced laying down a real quick gesture of the character and then filled in stuff. still need to work on things mainly sustained drawings.
c and c welcome
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/cover_chick.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/mech_guy.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/sw_guy.jpg
http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W-96A096/large/indyart/indymisc/skull_logo.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/ruff_dude.jpg
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/chicken_dress.jpg
longest period
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/borg_homie.jpg


thanks guys
meta
i wanna get good so i can have stars by my thread...lol

[nor]

VERY nice stuff, cool avatar!

[metaphysiks]

thanks jnorish, i am constantly working on it and i will have another update very soon
thanks again
meta

[endregan]

the 3rd from the last really stands out to me, would like to see it painted. really well done :). looking forward to more!

[Iiori]

I can't wait to see your next update. The first girl is really cool, if you ever get bored you should finish her. ^^

I love checkin your thread. Great skull as well. ^^

Also with one of the girls, some of the lines are really dark, are you using pen and pencil together? I always wondered about that.:D

[metaphysiks]

endregan: thanks for the compliments, i would love to paint it but alas my tablet is busted. :(
iiori: thanks man. the girl with the dark lines is just a bad scan. i am not good enuff with pencils to be puttin pen on anything

new update, just some simple sketches, workin on the speed thing as suggested by lukias. it is helping me nail proportion and feel my forms better.

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/soldya_sketch.jpg
dont do too many self portraits. this is why.
done way too early in the morn.
http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/early_morn_sp.jpg

thanks guys
meta

hahahah 3 stars im getting better, i hope

[TARGETE]

Hi Metaphysics,

These are getting better and better, I like the fact they are not worked up so much. Something you might like to try and its something I do alot is do some really small thumbnail drawings, for instance when I get an assignment I will do 5 or 6 versions of one scene or character, many times I'll get an idea for a final painting from that. It will open your gestures and dynamics up not to mention help with composition.

Good work man

J.P.

[metaphysiks]

thanks for the response, it means a lot especially since i am an admirer of your work. i usually do thumbnails, well at least i used to. i think that it is a good practice i should not have gotten out of. thanks for the advice and i will work on it.
meta

[StephenC]

mr meta, are these each on individual pages?

[metaphysiks]

yes sir most of these are on their own piece of paper. i wish that i had the ability to fill up pages like you do, for some reason i am always compelled to flip to the next page for every new idea.
meta

[StephenC]

mr.physiks, haha, i never really thought of the way i clutter images as an ability. I usually don't think consciously about filling the pages but when i fill pages in my book not only am I thinking of ideas but also of just practicing technique. so its not neccessarily that i'm putting ideas on a page as much as just exercising my utensil. I have some pages that are filled just with hatching, straight lines, circles, etc. Just let things flow and don't be afraid to do an ugly drawing. Very similar to doddling in the margins of regular science class notes. and of course,...I just don't like to waste paper, it costs money that i could spend on more art supplies or a good meal.

also fillling pages isn't always a good thing, lots of times i have drawings that are lost under others and all the clutter.

[metaphysiks]

never thought of it that way stephen. anyway, i love your sketchbook, fills me with so much energy and inspiration.
cheers
meta
by the way stephen, how old are you

[killing.people]

metaphizzzzle.
sweet sketches.

[metaphysiks]

thanks man i am glad that you like them.
update coming soon.
meta

[TheBlasianOne]

whats up, good to see more sketches. okay, these are for the last 9 images.

pic 1(the girl with the hat): she reminds me of cammy from street fighter in a way. only thing that strikes me as odd is the distances between her eyes and nose. they all seem very stretched out in a sort of triangular way. and do more with ther gasmask guy, he looks cool.

pic 2: cool design overall, although the hands seem out of proportion in relation to one another, but of course that could have been intentional

pic 3: interesting ornate head design. maybe some type of writing or design to push out some parts?

pic 4: ur icon. cool beans.

pic 5: this image grabs my attention the most out of all the drawings. everything you have drawn is cool, especially his head and mask. However I want to see more. finish the arms and LEGS, especially the legs. too many people neglect these very important body parts, myself included.

pic 6: nice line weight here

pic 7: i see a lot of attention went to this drawing, but my question is: what is he doing?

pic 8: only thing that bugs me is how his pecs seem to stop at where his shirt begins. my assumption is that you drew the shirt first.

pic 9: a very nice rendering. the yellow is...loud

What I want to see from you is some more dynamic poses with action, because I know you are capable of it. Quick stuff. Of course when we conceptualize we all tend to draw characters just standing there and that's fine. So do I. But once you get the design down, how about doing some whacked out crazy poses tho? try and tell a story.

anyway, always good to see updates here. keep rockin

[metaphysiks]

thanks blasian, your input helps a lot. you are right about everything that you had to say. i think a lot of why i havent been doing anything dynamic is due to a lack of knowledge about anatomy. i have been hitting the bridgman and i think i am picking up on more. be on the lookout for bigger and better things ( i hope )
thanks again for the input and i look forward to your next update
meta

[metaphysiks]

nother half assed sketch
meta

http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/indymisc/fairie_chick_concept.jpg

[TheBlasianOne]

hmm..what i notice is that her right breast(our left) seems a little too far over to the left, maybe. also, the perspective conflicts a bit as im assuming we're looking up at her judging from the way you positioned the shoulders. should we be seeing the underside of her jaw some? other than that, the plants and stuff reflect her organic design well. my 2 cents

Blasian

[metaphysiks]

you know, now that i look at it, i can see exactly what you are talking about. it should be in perspective. and i think also that the shoulders are too wide. i dont know what i was doing. also no story and no emotion. gotta work harder.
meta

p.s. will you look at that: ****

[ac_osorio]

Coming strong my friend! I like your work.
Always like to look at your stuff, makes me draw!
thanks for sharing...
now let the pencils and erasers scream for mercy...

[endregan]

like the flowers in the latest. the girl is pretty good. I am not very good at drawing females, must give it a try!

[Iiori]

I like the look of this last one. The clothes and the design are really nice. I like how you added the shaded in leaves and flowers in the backround.

Plus I just really love your people. ^^

[metaphysiks]

thanks for the comments iiori and endregan. i appreciate it. after taking the advice and the comments from anyone i have discovered that i hate this damn drawing. i will update with hopefully a better drawing. thanks
meta

[TheBlasianOne]

look at what?

[metaphysiks]

4 stars on my thread.
meta

[killing.people]

**** = http://conceptart.org/forums/images/4stars.gif

[sin]

eep meta, you're progress is remarkable...im such a loozer, i havent really drawn all summer :/

[metaphysiks]

you will now, im back and ready to call yer ass boy. be ready.
meta

[sin]

hah k. actually, you should call my cell if you still have that number.

[metaphysiks]

wow it has been a while. damn image hosting has been a bitch, but im back with some new stuff. all of these sketches are just that, sketches. been trying new paper. i like it a lot. alright, enuff talking.

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438879_6599844826099609759_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438880_2092256304387371939_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438882_3998271876610484227_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438883_1065300968990208818_vl.jpg
this last piece was a collaboration between myself (metaphysiks) and another board artist Metalwinds. i laid down the sketch and he placed in some rendering. hope you like.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438881_4611728275973590187_vl.jpg
argh forgot one
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/438889_116217496878290446_vl.jpg

thanks
meta
p.s. sorry about that stupid digitalpose shizit, c and c welcome

[antihero]

wow... :eek:

You've got some nice sketches & paintings & drawings in here!
Don't stop spittin' glass at our asses!
Your shading is really good! Do your recommend any tutorials/books about it?
Cannot give any critic, but i just suggest to not stop this... :)

antihero

[Kortez]

I'm gonna go with "By far, your best stuff!"

Congrats, really great pieces :D

[Rusty]

yep definatly the best stuff ive seen from ya so far metaphysiks..
the collaboration piece between you and metawinds is by far my fave out of those...
welldone :)

Rusty

[metaphysiks]

thanks for the comments guys. i would have to say that i agree that this has been the best stuff that i have put out in a while, but im still not satisfied and i will draw more. thanks guys. look for more.
meta
heres a quickie kinda cool i think
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/440788_2075056913625194076_vl.jpg

[Jeff Gran]

Hey man, I've seen you around here and I finally found your thread. Great stuff. Interesting that you like the yellow paper...I've been thinking about working on some toned paper, but I can't find a good sketchbook that's not white. anyway, ya this recent stuff is awesome, great monsters, you've got an active imagination. Keep it up, I'll follow this one.

[metaphysiks]

hey man that is really cool to hear that someone has been looking for my thread. thanks for the compliments. ill try to keep u happy.
meta

[endregan]

hey meta... you are really good at linework! it is a skill that we all must build at and you are doing well at this. great creature!

[behemot5]

fuckin' good work... i like it...

[Sumrow]

April 16th post.... it kicks so much ass... I had to import more!

[metaphysiks]

everyone: thanks for the nice comments. i dont have much today but i would still appreciate crits.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/449399_2085221381485756145_vl.jpg
meta

[nor]

excellent marker rendering!

[metalwinds]

nice design, but i think some skin texture would have been sweet. his hind left leg bothers me, but its not that noticable.

[buffaloe]

Very imaginative creature! Nice mixture of marker and pen as well :)

[endregan]

nice those markers were put to use well. I like how you have done it and fleshed it out. :)

[metaphysiks]

thanks for comments everyone. here is one of several posts today
ignore the head and well dont laugh
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/451806_9019132166896922481_vl.jpg

[sin]

::bump bump::


and im not talking about the thread

:p

[xia]

Nice, nice...you are getting better all the time.:chug:

[Lung_bug]

"im still not satisfied and i will draw more" <- this will get you far (and i'm not being sarcastic). got some great stuff going on in here... i'll be checking around more often in the future

cheers :chug:

[metaphysiks]

sin: thanks man, i always enjoy a naked chick even if she isnt drawn very well
xia: thanks for the comment, it is very encouraging. i hope to keep getting better
lung: thanks. that is an attitude i try to keep. it is easy to hit a plateau and become satisfied with your work. then you dont try to become better. this is not what i want. to be a player in the game you have to constantly be learning. im glad that you feel some of my work is good. i hope that i can inspire you as much as i have been inspired by your work.

it was a pretty shitty day for sketching as far as my mood goes, i am very tired but i had to draw in my visual communications class instead of taking notes. shame on me. i know her right nipple ( our left ) if completely wrong but whatever its boobies.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/454769_8028705485426129024_vl.jpg
c and c welcome as always. more real soon
meta

[metalwinds]

hehe, this one is cool chris. the design is funny and sweet at the same time. i wouldnt really say it was a bad day for drawing either. my only crit is that her left leg should be more under her body because that is the leg most of the weight is on.

peace

[ac_osorio]

Loving it! Nice lines you got going there.
Keep em coming!

[metaphysiks]

metalwinds: thanks for the compliments. i like the idea actually but i think that my rendering sucks. thats what i was focusing on but i think that you are right about the leg. i will keep that in mind next time.

ac osorio: thanks for the compliments. i am not really sure to be honest what it means when people say i have nice lines. maybe u could elaborate more. i would like to know what this means. thanks again.
meta

[metaphysiks]

from yesterday, didnt get much of anything done. hope to have more today.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/458427_8788783370748404087_vl.jpg
meta

[endregan]

ooo crazy cool sketches yet again. by linework he means its probably clean lines or he likes the style of your lines or both :). and i agree great work.

[metaphysiks]

hey just another stupid doodle, honestly i just got bored as shit with it. now i can see that its three a clock in teh damn morning and i am going to bed so please dont hate me for posting this.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/459703_1526590633722932330_vl.jpg
meta

p.s. it seems that my image hosting with my previous host has been expired so i will try to get my own website so that i can have all my stuff in one nice little place.

[StephenC]

sa da tay
tippy tie

[endregan]

de tippy too hay..

dis good in may

O_O!
sa da tay!

[metaphysiks]

hahah thanks guys for the comments. i dont have anything to post right now, i am involved in some projects but i will try to post some of the progress.
meta

[metalwinds]

you better be drawin you ass... . and your signature should be "butt-sex me baracho" -erin... .. .. . ...genius..

[metaphysiks]

damn it has been too long. have been pretty busy. ill update more i swear, sorry for the lack luster update.
meta
please no hate mail but honest crits are cool

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/493317_6236377261230422023_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/493319_8280530745559695773_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/493321_4619677106235121863_vl.jpg

[buffaloe]

i like this group of sketches... especially the last one! The legs feel very solid and grounded. In fact, the upper body might be a little too small for such massive legs! I'd love to see that one finished :)

[TheBlasianOne]

gotta agree with buffaloe about the legs. he looks very grounded. would like to see more of the weapon he's holding though. Too bad, these scans dont do the originals justice

[metaphysiks]

hey guys thanks for the crits. i think that it is very important to make sure that my characters are grounded and display weight, now if only i put them in environments. i scanned these images at different settings so they are a little different. maybe this is why they are not as clear. i may work on the last one still, well see.
thanks again
meta

[strych9ine]

Those last two sketches are sweet man... I actually dig that tentacled freak quite a bit. Nice work bro.

[metaphysiks]

hey here is another, not great but i had fun drawing.
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/495178_7408104075066633612_vl.jpg
thanks for looking
meta

[nor]

that batman skecth is sweet!

[metaphysiks]

here is some stuff just for fun, just some pictures of some concept art natives getting together to draw.
Just for fun.

TheBlasianOne
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/495669_7837778919070091087_vl.jpg
IronMan ( currently has 0 posts )
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/495670_7538385561257554682_vl.jpg
Metalwinds
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/495672_5215441195817494826_vl.jpg
Metaphysiks
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/495671_8323636062977558368_vl.jpg

enjoy, maybe it adds a little mystery to some of us here at the boards
meta

[metaphysiks]

just some random smack, again it was fun

it was dark drawing the head so it is definately jacked
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/498179_8326762454045191780_vl.jpg
again but with the guy on the left, again drawn in the dark
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/498181_705336871865938682_vl.jpg
C&C always appreciated
meta

[Rusty]

youve been showing great progress in these recent pages metaphysiks,your knowledge of anatomy is shaping up a bit to well,definatly gotta keep my eye on you...the chick with the axe is quite tasty,definatly my fave...

keep it up
Rusty

[metalwinds]

i dig the axe chick, but the anatomy is a little off. hehe, that would be fucking awesome if pratt drew with us some time, and im ready to go saturday.. ..its on bitch. still thinkin of themes though.


peace

[metaphysiks]

thanks rusty, means alot coming from you. yeah im still working on my anatomy tho, still got a lot of work to do, been trying to pay attention to rendering as well.
metalwinds, thanks to you as well, i will pay attention to the anatomy more. it is on bitch, we gonna draw all day. im stil thinkin of themes too. have a couple ideas.
meta

[TARGETE]

These last sketches are full of life and attention. I love the pose of that horned fellow. Your anatomy is coming along wonderfully, been so busy havent had time to practice it myself. Keep em commin.

J.P.

[metaphysiks]

wow, thanks a lot for the compliments targete. you are one of my fav artists and u posses a lot of skill. i aspire to be on your level one day. i really appreciate the kind words
meta

[metaphysiks]

sorry for the lack of updates been busy, but im learning and working on stuff passed on to me by the man George Pratt.
just screwin around in PS, need to learn my colors
any advice will help
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/516779_6450089925948382008_vl.jpg

[metaphysiks]

just a drawing, trying out values
dont know what else to say
crits pleeze
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/523081_6334775273461544345_vl.jpg
meta

[poisonspider]

hey ANIRAM! GET ON AIM FOO! remember me?! I lub u :chug:

[endregan]

your rendering skills are top notch.. :)

soft shading yet hard outlines. its really appealing.

i love your latest!

[metaphysiks]

thanks endregan thats veery nice of you to say, i am of course still working on that. be on the lookout for more.
meta

[Dan.v.D.]

i´m diggin that dewd concept-wise very much.
u did a good job with the big speculars to suggest a more reflective surface.
but maybe you could have made that plate material a tad darker or lighter than the skin tone since u worked on values.
i think that would make it even more interesting.

the colors of that painting are also nice. id really like to see an update on that >8)

[Marko Djurdjevic]

Hey meta,

as promised I reviewed your sketchbook. Man, you have some really nice things going on here, but you're still unfocused. Free yourself of those dominating outlines, don't be so edgy in many places at once. Edges must be used sparingly in a drawing, more to underline a single point within the drawing, than to dominate it. The heavy outlines overweigh the lightness of your sketches. You also tend to overdo things, like weapons and armor. Try to be a little more realistic with your shapes, because your designs will become fiercer this way. I know, drawing allows you to exaggregate everything, but through overdoing your designs, they become childish, cartoony and funny. So, when you overdo a monster f.e., it wont look really impressive but rather like something to laugh about. Look at Lukias sketchbook for example, when he follows up exaggregation in his monster designs, he does it with intelligence, only sparingly and so, that the eye is not mislead into believing that the drawing was meant as a joke.
Anyhow, your work is still solid you just need to explore more.

Cheers!
Marko

[metaphysiks]

dan: thanks man i will keep that stuff in mind, i noticed too that the armor and skin were too close in value. ill work on that
marko: thanks a lot for the advice. i had never thought about using more realistic shapes before, i think it will help, i really appreciate the comments and i hope you check in on me often.

anyway, here is a color study i did, not great but you all know that i am new to this painting thing. im still working but again advice is gold

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/525782_1362052592645675009_vl.jpg

thanks again guys
meta

[metaphysiks]

been a while, found out im too lazy to scan things, i was going to wait until i had more but that would mean more scanning and i wanted to get it over with. been trying to draw a lot more, and workin on several issues i have with drawing, and trying to keep in mind the things that i have been told. enjoy and c and c is welcome
meta

animated type character
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539722_207816585086894587_vl.jpg
some creature

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539723_5896079657236843679_vl.jpg

thought a blending stump would be fun, sorry rusty
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539747_841295691627506075_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539734_3265798851874451677_vl.jpg

sort of inspired by that one game, um,, dragon or dungeon lair or sumthin

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539735_2607613826764146156_vl.jpg

drawing in art history

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539741_8683536018431169544_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539742_6411164174603053393_vl.jpg

WTF?!?

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539745_3847029223950736358_vl.jpg

probably gonna clean this up and finish it, maybe paint
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/539746_2319484147201448592_vl.jpg

thanks for looking

[Cocofuppa]

Dude, those torso sketches are sooo fine :P Im curious, did u teach yourself about the anatomy, or are u being taught life drawings? Oh and ur pencil shading technique is superb, like it a LOT! Gonna keep my eye on this thread :P

[metaphysiks]

thanks coco, i have studied anatomy, apparently not enough but i have also learned a lot from others here at school and from high school, although i dont shot it all the time, i definately do not do enough life drawing which i should, but thanks for the compliment
meta

[Cocofuppa]

I see :P Very interesting. Think im gonna really push myself now, cos it aint lookin like im gonna be taught, so ill have to do it myself.

Cheers for the Info:D

[metaphysiks]

got some more stuff, nothing great, felt pretty frustrated today, sitting next to metalwinds while he was doing some amazing shit didnt help either.

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/541470_8934103893859045071_vl.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/541471_1002797599360001997_vl.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/541472_1835714112046557147_vl.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/541473_8761733183717846170_vl.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/541474_5264754897887076717_vl.jpg

c and c welcome, thanks guys for checkin this out

meta

[tinyhands]

Those sketches are lookin really nice. I really really like that more simple animation style character. That freakin rocks. Brings back memories of when i used to do animation. Great stuff man

[metaphysiks]

thanks for the compliments tiny, i am studying animation in school right now and it really influences the way i draw, i am just trying to find a way to incorporate the way i draw for animation to the way i illustrate. what the hell did i just say.
meta

[Jamaludin]

wow great as ever, espescially the bloke with the mask with the tubes connected to it. And do you and metalwinds go to the same school, that' some great s**t !! I would love to go outside of school and collab and relax on a bench and draw something toghether, must be a great help. Well good luck as if you need that, great looking as always.. ! Cheers !!!

[TARGETE]

Cool new stuff Meta, I'm enjoying your poses alot.

Watch out with that blend stick it can be addictive, it should be used sparingly if someone can tell you used it then that defeats the purpose, sort of like digital vs traditional media or airbrush vs a paintbrush, as an artist you should be able to get the same results through out mediums. Form and structure are the most important everything else is secondary.

Not sure if that was helpful, sure you heard all that a few times.

your sketchbook makes me want to work harder as well.

JP

[metalwinds]

you got some good things goin on, but your execution is lacking. i think the main problem i see here is your anatomy. because i have the priveledge (or something like that. .) of drawing with you, i know how much you struggle with anatomy/proportions/faces. you erase a lot, but maybe it would benefit you if you dont erase at all. leave all the lines you put down on the page.. .. .think of what pratt taught us that night. i have been taking his advice since then and i think my drawings have improved a lot. doing a lot of reference work might help expand what you know about the human form and how certain muscles move. i guess this isnt really a critique on these pieces you have posted, but more of a general crit.

keep at it
peace

[metaphysiks]

so drawing with me isnt a pleasure???
thats messed up. anyway, u are definately right, no confidence in my lines, a problem stemming from a lack of knowledge of the things i am trying to draw. just like pratt said, u cant draw what you dont know. i need to get back to drawing from life. especially the figure. anyway, i understand what you are saying and i will try to work on it.
thanks
meta

[metaphysiks]

hey guys, not much to offer today but this is a drawing for an assignment so i thought i would post it cause i kinda like it, a little different from what i normally do.
thanks
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/546774_2154424740763516489_vl.jpg

meta

[metaphysiks]

found a little time to draw, and i decided to have fun
trying to loosen up
please feel free to let me know what you think
thanks
meta

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/551499_1042548729270599554_vl.jpg

[metalwinds]

i like this approach.. . .other than pencil, what medium did you use? my only real comment is the colors are really bright and distracting.

peace

[metaphysiks]

thanks metal, it is a burnt umber wash pencil and sakura pigma liners along with a paint marker. the photoshop tweaking screwed it up
my apologies
meta

[TheBlasianOne]

It has a really nice mood. I like the smoke form the cigarette a lot. His hips seem a bit wide though for a male, even without the holster. His face seems to flatten out around the nose and eyes. Im assuming the light is coming form the top right judging from the highlights on the scarf and right arm(his left). The presentation is there, im just not seeing the form popping out. metalwids is right about the colors. i would suggest trying a different approach of having a dark background on your next piece. the bright white is really taxing on the eyes.

[metaphysiks]

blasian- i didnt even notice the wide hips until you brought it to my attention. i have been getting that same comment from others, also teh pose is a bit feminine too. thanks for the insight and i will try to keep my eye on that.

here is just a coloring for a project of teh previous sketch i posted.

still learning

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/556661_3707915524108435780_vl.jpg

comments welcom

meta

[Sammy]

That cowboy is wicked awesome man, do another!

[Sammy]

Ok, I took it into painter and worked in a light source. Help pop it out with some shadows from a harsh "cowboyish" sun... The light up to the top right makes it easy to folow where the shadow should follow the form.

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/shadowpractice.jpg

on the image I just built about 3 layers to work in cool colored shadows (your image was warm, and cool colors will fool the eye into thinking it's more dynamic than the shadows really are) :D .... Eacy layer was set to an oppasity of arround 15%, whatever worked.... it's a nice way to lay down shadow becaue it retains the light information that's already defining your forms.

when that was done I took it into photoshop and auto-leveled it to fix contrasts and messed with the color.. I used little color-doge sparingly trying to be tastefull.

[metaphysiks]

thanks sammy, you have been a great help. unfortuantely i still cant get it
my head is really shitty right now
anyway, someone help me
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/573579_5123885269657609831_vl.jpg http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/573573_8120904573463881939_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/573578_6696590395701612785_vl.jpg http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/573572_7666140368762033816_vl.jpg
man im out of it
thanks
meta

[R_M]

Good advice Sammy!

Methaphysiks/ the swamp thing sketch has a nice tension to it, and I like the shapes his body makes, even if he is a bit out of balance

[Dan.v.D.]

maybe check these out >> http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/7731 || http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/7714

i think it´s not so good to start painting with a char on a white bg. if you have some kind of background even if just suggested values or colors, you´ll have a better feel for the character and lightning and such.

but dun worry to much for as soon as you have done 10 u´ll have improved a ton already.

that´s my 2 cent.

[killing.people]

i read up on jason manley's tutorial, thanks for posting that link.

-killing.people

[xia]

Um...it's been a while. Great stuff, you are improving big time. :chug:
Keep it up!

[metalwinds]

well, as you know im not a good painter myself, but i ll tell you what i know. i think you get really highlight happy in your paintings. you dont stick to a strick light source enough and it flattens the painting. there arent enough general light and dark areas to make the figure pop out and look real. aside from that, i think your textures are really weak. .. to me, they make your pics look more like a bad jpeg than something you can touch. also, your highlights on the first pic look fake and dodge tooled. my best advice is to read the tutorials and do a lot of reference paintings. i dunno though, i still have a lot to learn myself.

peace

[metaphysiks]

thanks for the good crits, thats exactly what i was looking for. i think a lot of it will begin with understanding how color theory works. the texture thing is definately something i need work on and something i struggle with. i think as far as the unified lighting goes, i should try working from a unified drawing where the light source has already been established.
thanks again for your help.
meta

[metaphysiks]

another painting, trying out painter, unfortunately this pic was ruined by poor jpeg quality
meta
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/26176/p/582904_8363996111263374389_vl.jpg

[Jens]

I think the answer to your question is to do lots and lots of ref studies.. It's hard to learn painting colors from imagination. Search for Prom's tutorials, he has some really nice tips!