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Saeran
November 7th, 2005, 05:46 PM
http://www.deviantart.com/view/24956795/


Sorry it's on Deviantart, guys. ;.;



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here:
http://www.twilightcollective.net/photos%20and%20junk/MakazeRooftp.png

madster
November 7th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Your light source with the gargoyle lamp still does not match up with the highlights you have on the skirt, which display an upper centered "light reflection" highlight on the segments.
Same issue for the hair. Your light source needs to be consistent and believeable.

~M

suuperpink
November 7th, 2005, 07:34 PM
I have to agree, the bottom of the skirt should resemble the shading done to the gargoyles wing, and whats with the black out line over the entire figure? The only place this does not occure is the front of the gargoyle. You need to bring in some atmospheric perspective(very important) onto the figure to make her look like she belongs. Other than that, nice moon.

Toodles Ranger

Poohgee
November 7th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Welcome to CA Saeran :)

Great imagination for this IMO :)

Colours needs to seem less "local" - they ahve to effect one another a bit more .. well the orange (I want that dress - yummy :)) stands too much out on its own for example .

Figures have texture but the clouds & the lamp doesnt .

Sorry but having a tiny lamp attachted too such a cool creature seems a bit of a waist of potential.

Maybe add a few more shadows to make the woman less flat looking in some places .

Maybe do some really cool close-ups of that face - reminds me a bit of H.R. Gigers work .

Just IMO :)

Saeran
November 8th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Ok, I went back in and reworked some of the image. I tried to push the shading more on the character, and brought the highlights out on her dress to where, to me, it now looks like they're actually being cast by the latnern. I went in and put a little texture on the lantern. I also kicked the shading on the clouds to try and bring out the darkness of the image.

Any more crit and comments is welcome. :)

http://www.twilightcollective.net/photos%20and%20junk/MakazeRooftop.png

dogfood
November 8th, 2005, 01:51 PM
There are a couple things hurting this image. The greatest is the overall darkness. Even considering the lamp, we get no relief from the oppressive crush of the low contrast and heavy values.

That lamp is also forcing the focal point to the lower right corner and the balance is just shot. Do you notice how the figure and roof, down to the gargoyle (whose sweet texture is exacerbating the eye flow), then to the lamp, is making a rough triangle? That's accelerating the eye down to that corner, where it is stopped cold, but trapped, by the hard darkenss right there. Not good.

The next thing is the perspective. From that basis, the gargoyle looks like it should be sitting at about her waist, instead of so low.

The clouds give me the impression that an out-of-focus Care Bear is about to stomp on something in the street below.

The back-story (I assume there is one) isn't getting consistant back-up from the picture. She's on a roof, but her stance is that of someone looking for the loo (with a great deal of grace, but nonetheless, not someone who is skirting a nasty fall).

While it may sound harsh and not many people take my advice (much to thier credit), I would recommend calling this one done and restarting. You wouldn't believe how much you learn with fresh restart.