IDW001 DarkSharks: Melee Space Mechs

[davi]

http://davivsjapan.com/IDW.jpg

Topic: Melee Combat Alien Mech
Description: In the far future, the Chinese government will overpass the space technology of all rival nations and have estblished homebases on far away planets.

An hostile and intelligent alien race was discovered on a planet in a far away system. The aliens attacked the Chinese and repealed their attempts in harvesting information of their world, aswell destroying all their research ships.

The chinese government choose to send out a squad of space marines in a newly devolped Space Mech. Space Travel does not allow the transport of nuclear or biological weaponary, so the Chinese Space team devolped mechs with strong Melee capibilities to protect future research teams.

These Mechs were known as the DarkSharks.


Deadline: Nov 5th

[Sinix]

Hey, you took my suggestion to bring it back and make it weekly. Good times, make a suggestion thread too and I'll submit a bunch of varied ideas.

[machzero]

when's the dateline? not listed in the initial post.

[davi]

there you go, added :]

[machzero]

Great! Been practising a bit since the first IDW... hopefully, won't get my arse kicked so badly this time around. Heheh.

[brokk]

davi, I wanted to ask, I'm puzzled by something. Its a nit-pick, but the intrigue is genuine... so bare with me, please.

The activity is called Industrial Design, but I looked up ID on wikipedia and got this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Design).
My question is that, is there a difference between saying Industrial Design, and Vehicle or Tech or Mech Design? I don't know much about the subject, but based on the little I've read, it seems that ID is something more geared towards producing things that have a purpose, in real life application. The subject of this week is something either fictional, or asuming (asuming the Chinese government will have space stations, asuming there will be aliens, etc). It sounds like the context is something more towards a game or movie.
If there is a difference between designing products for real life use, and designing concepts for the content of entertaining products, wouldn't it be more appropiate to call the activity something like Tech or Mech Design?

[davi]

well the problem is, i tried to do a practical Industrial design challenge before, about solving the issue of blindness, and there was an exterme shortage of results, the second topic was about a plantary defense against asteroids and the such, each are practical, but difficult because it's generally not what someone would want to put time into.

So im going to try to make it as interesting as possible, vechicles, futureist practicalities based on gusses of the future, but i shall be bring topics such as shoe design, modern kitchen appliances....

[scumgrinder]

guns?

[brokk]

Cool. Yeah I noticed not many people were participating before. Personally, the impression I had of the activity is that you had to be either an industrial designer or an industrial design student to make an entry that held a chance, and that made the activity quite intimidating for someone who is neither. But I guess there's no real reason not to join, so I'll try to jump in on this one too : )
(though I haven't finished any of the other 3 activity entries... ugh)

Allright, enough talk. Time to get started.

[machzero]

bRØk3n_sPiRiT - not to worry I think... i dunno anything about industrial design either. .... though I got trounced last time... heheheheh

[davi]

no guns, melee.

either brute strength or wicked agility.

[Fozzybar]

Go for it....and no one shall complain about stopping the activity if you don't post cool artwork for this one!!! I wanna see some motherfucking mechs over here right now!

[koshime]

okaaaaay. I'm in for this. Yum yum Melee Mechs!
I take this , a typical 3/4th view woudl be sufficient?
Does it have to be digital or markers/pen/pencils acceptable?

[Ni*]

ace, this is good practice, i hope i have time to take part, it'll stop me just sketching figures...

yeah, technically not industrial design since it's fictional but it's 'conceptual industrial design', and solving problems that don't exist yet it's still solving problems, and getting realistic ideas onto a medium that can explain them (pencil on paper).

i'd like to see some more basic, less far fetched suggestions (i'll try to think up a few myself) to allow entrants to work from first principles- designing a space mech is a bit much considering the amount of work that goes into designing something like a piece of furniture, let alone an electronic product- some things to let entrants really explore the problem and hopefully give some innovative solutions.

cheers

N

[goran]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/smogyboy/production%20design/black-shark.jpg
Black Shark,description is coming,cheers

[AndrewLey]

update below

[PHATandy]

... ok... sort of needless random post... but HOLY SHIT andrew m8..

That is needlessly amazing, the texture is friggen immense and ethe design is so sweet... absolutly love that man.. awesome work. Its honestly very very good...

Dispite this mental beating ive just recieved.. i shall continue with my entry...

[PHATandy]

ok mine as it stands... gonna add some more detail over the top.. work over the lines.. make it more finished.. fix up some sections (the feet).

this doesnt stand up to andrews here :( .... but im gonna work on it some more.

looking forward to more.

http://www.andydesign.co.uk/best/IDW1.jpg

[rasdasa]

badass topic, some whicked entries so far. That's got one whacked out feel Goran, seems like no matter what you'd get cut touching it.

ras

[nightfend]

http://home.comcast.net/~mikecwagner/images/idw/darkshark_mech.jpg

[machzero]

goran,

great rendering! but it looks almost like an exact copy of an existing design.

[goran]

machzero-I don't know man, could you show me,maybee my subconcience is
working in strangeways.I got still time to change my stuff.

[Sinix]

Haha.. damn, I also bit with the chinese symbol in the corner, seemed like a decent way to mix in my signature. Andrew already captured this topic awesomely for my tastes, but I tried anyway.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/sinix5/dsb103005b.jpg
Retracting blades and ensealed cockpits, it's a massive beast, whee.

[rasdasa]

sinix, it actually looks very sparth inspired. either way, nice work.

ras

[cmarreco]

some really good entries... this thread will be great!

[xgabo]

http://www.gabo.ca/chnese_mech.jpg

My contribution.

Cheers

[machzero]

machzero-I don't know man, could you show me,maybee my subconcience is
working in strangeways.I got still time to change my stuff.

here we go...

http://www.medievalfx.com/machzero/graphics/black-shark_b.jpg

[scumgrinder]

ouch.

[Bloodsbane]

Had loads of fun with this!
Maybe she's too sketchy to even get to hang out with the cool kids in this thread though?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/bloodsbane/sketchbook/robothelvete.jpg

[goran]

ok thanks machzero,I will change my stuff,I saw that book years ago,
probably I liked so much ,well new stuff is coming.

[strych9ine]

Sinix, that is fucking awesome.

[draw]

Sinix, that is fucking awesome

[llothcat]

eh..
http://www.llothcat.com/sharkmech.jpg

...at least my tech is improving :dead:

I tried to get as many blades on this thing as I possibly could, and still make it somewhat "stylish" and shark-like at the same time.

[vigostar]

i just wantd to say that you guys are really kicking ass.... When I saw andrews design I was like.. "ok, Andy you win" then I saw Sinix's post and I was like " Sinix" you sneaky bastard you stole the spotlight from Andey, then I looked down some more and I was like "ohhh, shit people are fighting on this topic!!" Nicely done.. im gonna try to bang something out for this.. i like doing metal! and have been enjoying robots as of late!~!!

[Dragonspit]

Nice job everyone. I would like to throw in as well if I can get one done, but it wont compete with these posts, but for me, its for the practice as well.

ok, enough talk.

[Lake]

hey, sweet, davi!

and HOLY FUCK andrew and sinix!

[m@.]

very cool guys.

This is not meant to be my final - I was testing a rendering tech and searching a design. It will count as my final though if I don't find any time to make another version.

Basicaly the chinese took over, with a new ideology being a mix of science and religion, a sort of "neo-taoism", and changed flag when the real space age came . This bot is propeled by a yin/yang engine (matter/antimatter) , and is called "dark shark" because of the shape it takes while in translation (I'll put more details on my final).
http://mv.cgcommunity.com/images/conceptds1.jpg

[Dusty]

AndrewLey, If you'll permit me a quick crit....

As someone who uses textures a lot in my pieces, I immediately noticed that your brushed metal texture was basically just dropped over the top of the existing piece. The whole thing looks AWESOME, and the texture is spot on, but something you might want to consider doing to add to its realism is fit the texture according to where it is positioned on the mech. For example...since you just dropped it over the top, the brushed metal isn't curving around the bicep, or moving parrallel with the angle of the thigh. the striations of the brushed metal are just going top to bottom all the way through when in reality they would be unique depending on how they situated on the body.

Excellent design and piece....but that part definitely stands out as a little sloppy. If you just spent maybe 30 minutes masking out and rotating the parts in that overlay layer to be parrallel with whatever angle the individual body parts are moving in, you will have a MUCh stronger piece.

-Dusty

[nacho]

http://nachodoodles.com/images/doodles/spacemech.JPG

This thing can retract it's limps into the body for space travel...
as soon as it locks onto a target, it goes into rip-stuff-apart-mode and looks like pictured above.
Legs seem stupid for a bot in space, but this sucker has high powered electro magnets installed into his feet and can walk on the metal hulls of large battle ships, wander around on their surface and slowly tear them to pieces.
Also, he's kinda big.
Only 200 of these were built due to the high cost.. they are on duty since 278 years. Only two of them were destroyed... One got hit by a large asteroid, the other one went up in smoke, when it's pilot got high on illegal substances and maneuvered his mech into the earth's atmosphere. His last radio transmission was something about getting beer at the 7-11.
None of them was ever lost in one of the countless battles against the alien enemy.

[Zeitwolf]

Question:
is 2 legs a must for mecha?

I ask because this is industrial design and the designs should be broadly-said reproducable. so more than two legs would hold balance and walk through difficult landscape with more ease...

[xgabo]

I would say a mecha could have any number of legs, and of course more legs equals more stability, but in a future setting, with higher technology, anything is possible, especially in a lower gravity environment :)

[vigostar]

m@- you just made me cry!!!

[csteingart]

AndrewLey - still don't know how you do that bro, yer crazy.
Sinix - love the looseness in that piece man.
m@. - wicked good man

Updated - redraw. I'm never happy with the end result unless I draw it with pencil first.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/cstein74/darkshark_8.jpg

[Lake]

Sinix, that is Kickass! with a capital k and an exclamation mark.

I'll crit you in the voting thread.



I hope to have my IDW and COW in by Tomorrow. I don't know if I'll have the time or patience for the environment or character... but these are all such good practice! praise much for the guys who run these...


You know, I should limit myself to doing only IDW and EOW because those are my weak points... but whatev.

[rasdasa]

AndrewLey, If you'll permit me a quick crit....

As someone who uses textures a lot in my pieces, I immediately noticed that your brushed metal texture was basically just dropped over the top of the existing piece. The whole thing looks AWESOME, and the texture is spot on, but something you might want to consider doing to add to its realism is fit the texture according to where it is positioned on the mech. For example...since you just dropped it over the top, the brushed metal isn't curving around the bicep, or moving parrallel with the angle of the thigh. the striations of the brushed metal are just going top to bottom all the way through when in reality they would be unique depending on how they situated on the body.

Excellent design and piece....but that part definitely stands out as a little sloppy. If you just spent maybe 30 minutes masking out and rotating the parts in that overlay layer to be parrallel with whatever angle the individual body parts are moving in, you will have a MUCh stronger piece.

-Dusty


Nice crit

[ogar555]

:0
*stares @ m@*
Holy crap...

[S.C. Watson]

I have got to say there's some kick ass stuff here. Makes me wish I could wrap my head around mech stuff. All the way around *yummi*

~Oreg

[Sammy]

Oh what fun I must join in! --- ID stuff about bashing shit with big robot whomp-ass, good times had by all :yayca:

hot-damn M@. your rendering skills are so sexy...

This is pretty self-explanatory .... robot-crabish thing for bashing junk --- I felt obligated to do something that wasn't anthropomorphic or humanoid and could still hold it's own in a battle.
http://www.modelforge.com/sammy/A_MECHANICAL/unclefengcrab.jpg

I totally zoned out while doin' this, and it came out completely Fengish ... so I apologize for that :bashful:

[Yoonjin]

Good work everybody! Gonna try to get some time out of school to join the fun.
Great m@, how does your mecha combat? (just a silly question).

[scumgrinder]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c240/scumgrinder2/mecha.jpg

[grand]

Nice work scumgrinder. i love the hands. I design overall is different and really cool. :)

Nice one sammy!

I need to get mine done.

[vigostar]

SAMMY- I was wondering if you were going to hop in this one... this stuff is right up your alley.. cool work man...

Scumgrinder- your a machine dude.... is it possible for you to do all four weeklies???

[scumgrinder]

no :(
i really had a hard time doing this one, and i really really suck at enviroment stuff. I need some of you talented dudes to teach me how to do it.

[Sammy]

MIKECORRIERO, grand, vigostar: Thanx guys, it feels good to do a pure robot-sketch again ... everything lately has been full Thunderdome illustrations.

it's awesome so many people joining in this time arround, lets keep it up :]
but I probobly won't be able to join again in a few weeks.

[luxun]

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9745/idm9fw.jpg

there has only been produced 2 darkshark mecha due to its massive size and cost, the cockpit is at our left side of the front. they use the light producing thing art the front to lure the enemy close and then they obliterate it with the 4 claws.

[Hideyoshi]

won't have a chance anyway, but here we go (hey, Sinix, changed my mind :dur: ) ...

http://www.hideyoshi-ruwwe.com/images/darksharks_small.jpg

The Chinese Darksharks having been produced in a limited series of 10 are known for their sheer berserk rage when it comes to melee combat. Equipped with a twin-blade sword and a "Xenotonium" alloy shield it is a hard rival on every battlefield.
:nohope:

don't need to mention that Sinix, Andrew, M@ and Sammy rock, do I?
Luxun: that's not bad either!

[Pichuerca]

Don´t see any black and white mech design so there is one here.

http://personales.ya.com/sanand/sharkmech.jpg

Pich

[Tyler_Lockett]

yoyo. nice stuff in here. shaking the rust off

mars + china = a whole lotta red

http://subskies.com/fun/mech.jpg
as war looms near the chinese space federation scrambles to complete and deploy all dark sharks for the inevitable battle.

[AndrewLey]

Thanks for the crits guys - I spent a little more time on it.

In addition to the main propultion engine on the back, the Darkshark mobile armour has a series of small thrusters which give it agile flight performance in zero gravity. Its powerful fists are perfect for tearing apart armour and the primary systems of enemy ships. Once the unit has penetrated the enemy ship it is able to perform a combat role in a gravity environment.

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/2738/darkshark7a2ak.jpg

[Brood]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/johnayala/darksharkforweb.jpgThe central arm acts similarly as our "jaws of life is used"to rip through heavy armor.The arm is equipped with a high density lazer which helps it tear through alien armor.When not in use,the arm collapses under,and behind the mech.The cockpit is located just above the central arm,when in its non-combative state.

[Hideyoshi]

hey Pich, no guns allowed in here...

[Pichuerca]

hey Pich, no guns allowed in here...

Where is said that guns are not allowed?? :er:


Pich

[BrainBug]

Where is said that guns are not allowed?? :er:


Pich
the topic title and post #11

[Pichuerca]

YeaH, My apologizes... The next time i`ll read the entire thread before posting.

Pich

[Dragonspit]

gonna be hard to choose. Hey Hide, has your style all over it. another good design.

[koshime]

sigh - hopefully, i can submit this one my on call duties in hospital are over...in about 14 hours...

[Dusty]

Thanks for the crits guys - I spent a little more time on it.

Looks much better, man!! Great job.

-Dusty

[machzero]

aww... forum was down and I couldn't post mine in time...

nevermind... onto the next IDM...

http://www.medievalfx.com/machzero/graphics/idm0000d.jpg

[vigostar]

Till what time tonight do we have to finish this?? i wanted to add some color and give it more pizzaz! Let, me know...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/vigostar/mechfinalblackandwhite.jpg

[itsnervedamage]

Noob here!
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3248/mech2kb.jpg
Does it still count today? Also, any crits are welcome :^^:

[Lake]

sup bitches....

DARKSHARK FTW

http://livingincommon.org/pandaone/darkshark.jpg

Darkshark
Known as "darkshark" armor because of it's resemblance to the battle armor of the chinese general Sun "Darkshark" Tsang, this mobile suit towers at an easy eighty feet tall. In the war against the enemy, the mobility of this armor proved invaluable in providing flexible and powerful battle formations, hitting as hard as a hammer and effectively as a scalpel.

[Infinitum]

Great work everyone. Good to see you here as well Vigostar.

Here's my entry. I hope you like it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Infinitum1/InfinitumDarkshark.jpg

[staceydiana]

okay wow...so many posts!! :}

sinux nice ankles, i really like the abstractions!! M@ okay...ummm damn!! I like the honey comb type "rendering" atop the metal

Not really much to say about this, Giant rocket head with sharp frontal lobe.. a.k.a puts all bodily force into head butting. With four sharp armatures...when propelled in outerspace looks like a sperm. There's always room for upgrades but this is you're standard model.

http://www.staceydclark.com/novorg/darkshark01.jpg

[vigostar]

what happened to the other entries getting voted on????

[Infinitum]

I asked the same question Vigostar. I think half of us were left out even though we posted in the deadline. I don't know why.