Just started, need crit to go to college!

[slpyliltrtle]

Just started posting on conceptart, a friend said i should get some crits and work off that. here we go. go easy on me ><

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/face.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/hands.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/girlheadphones.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/ceska.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/spacegirl.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/roboticarm.jpg
concept, thinking of redrawing

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/spaceperspective.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/dualaxe.jpg
messing with perspective

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/chibispiderman.jpg
chibi spidey

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/slpyliltrtle/girlclothe.jpg
http://www.conceptart.org/gallery/files/2/9/8/3/3/girlnude.jpg

[Jedmo]

I'll assume by the title of your post that you are in high school still? You are doing very well in your art, definitely arent starting from a bad point. Hell, my artwork from high school is truly cringeworthy. I definitely didnt have as strong a grasp of perspective as you do. That being said, I think you would benefit considerably from some serious study of the human form and anatomy. Especially proportions of the head and face. All of your figures have a lot more cranial mass than they should. I realize that you are anime/manga influenced in your style but it goes a little beyond a stylistic distortion. The girl with the headphones and mic looks like an alien. Some of your detailing looks good, like the metal rivets on the giant mechanical hand, however as it is right now there isnt really a solid foundation for those details to rest on. Again, it comes back to anatomy and life study. I didnt have access to anything even close to figure drawing in high school so I can understand but there are some good books that you can check out in the meantime. Look for titles by Andrew Loomis on the net, they are all available for free at this time since the copyrights have expired. Study how he does anatomy and the figure. All in all though, you're doing alright. As I said, your biggest problem stems from a lack of knowledge/practice in accurately drawing the human form. Remember that practice makes perfect. A life drawing class would be the best thing for you but, failing that, those Loomis books are a great resource. Best of luck to you with your college pursuit.

[Bad Brownie]

Yes. Anatomy. Dear god, study anatomy.

Your perspective on that environment image was good. Perspective was always hard for me, so way to go.

You need to do some serious facial study as well. Learn real proportions before you start to cartoon 'em.

I remember being in your place...::sigh:: getting stuff together for college. Oh the youngins...

[Thunder Doom]

Kind of a stupid note, but in the sixth picture, if the girl's arm is fully extended, shouldn't the robot's be as well (assuming she's actually controlling it)? Right now it's bent at the elbow, also listen stuff the other people have been telling you

[CaptainInsano]

hey man, stick to it! You got a pretty good start. But I must say... please study anatomy more and really look at the works of the old masters and try to replicate them. I do it regularly.

Good luck.

[slpyliltrtle]

hey thanks guys im actually looking into those books and they're helping alot, i still have alot of practice to do but it's helping, i promise next time i post i wont have any anatnomy problems, i'll have other problems.. haha


by the way could someone help me with clothing folds?

[Mono]

hey thanks guys im actually looking into those books and they're helping alot..........
by the way could someone help me with clothing folds?

I'd rather highly recommend you start drawing from life. inanimate objects, people. It'll increase your hand/eye coordination and awareness level 10 folds.

[Liquidspider]

hey thanks guys im actually looking into those books and they're helping alot, i still have alot of practice to do but it's helping, i promise next time i post i wont have any anatnomy problems, i'll have other problems.. haha


by the way could someone help me with clothing folds?

i take it u aren't going to post for another 5 - 10 years? lol.. it will take you a lot longer than u could probably think (sadly) however, by posting anything, listening to advice, and trying to fix problems, u will and can learn a lot here

listen to mono... and study anatomy.. dont worry too much about cloth so much, cuz ppl will be too busy criting ur anatomy.

u have to learn to crawl before u walk, an walk before u run

when you finally go to art school, im sure you will learn a whole ton that you probably never even would have considered, and on HOW to do certain things

keep at it man.. you have promise :)

[joe3sk8erpk]

i really like your prospective drawing and with the big guy with the 2 weapons your doing great! keep working at it your heading the right direction :)

[osgoon]

goo louis!. good start in your sketchbook. keep posting, i'll keep checkin in. just keep drawing up a a storm. =D

[hypocalvin]

i take it u aren't going to post for another 5 - 10 years? lol.. it will take you a lot longer than u could probably think (sadly) however, by posting anything, listening to advice, and trying to fix problems, u will and can learn a lot here


just in defense of my friend here --yeah he needs a bit of work, but he does work pretty hard, he finished almost half a sketchbook in like 2 weeks..which is a really a commendable effort..and like.. crits..yeah..i didn't really tell him about that lol...ok ok..no no seriously.

anyways..about this anatomy stuff...ionno, i think still lifes should be a first priority..like 2-3 months of straight observing and stuff...it would make the anatomy studying go much quicker. cuz it would be easier to copy stuff..especially when observing that anatomy stuff. . i say still lifes. any one comment?

[DavePalumbo]

I disagree. Still lifes will be helpful just as any kind of practicing will be helpful, but you need to include some left brain learning to progress. Balance in all things. Observation is very very important, but you won't be getting the most out of it if you don't understand what you are observing. I think a study of anatomy is essential, especially at the stage you're at. The main problem seems to be the structure of the head though. The last piece in particular, the figure isn't looking too bad until you hit the neck. I recomend intensive study of heads, faces, and skulls.

The piece of advice that shot into my mind looking at what you posted wasn't specific toward your technique, though. Looking at the group of images, there is some inconsistency in quality. When it comes time to submit your portfolio for a college application or, in coming years, job applications, remember that the entire portfolio is only as strong as the weakest piece. To show it here and ask for crits, it's good to show drawings that you're having trouble with, but be very selective when it comes down to school and jobs. Also, most schools like to see some life drawing (figurative), so all the more reason to sign up for a life drawing class. You can usually find them at the local community college.

Looking good though, stick to it

[hypocalvin]

yeah, straight up ur right. intensive study of heads and stuff like that is really important. However (i dunno if this happened to everyone) when i started learning the figure drawing -- i still am -- while drawing from live models and studying out of art books was as helpful as they were, another important aspect of my study was doing master studies, and copying and studying heads and anatomical references from books and online tutorials. If I had not drawn those still lifes and "train my eye" in the past, i don't think i cud've completed those master studies and online tutorials no matter how well I understood the basic and internal structure of the human body. Like you mentioned, both skills are important, its just evaluating in the given time that this guy needs to build his portfolio --what should spend more time on. (just a weeny high school kid expressing his opinion *eek*)
sry..i think this thread is waaaaaay off topic. lol