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January 6th, 2006, 01:38 AM
Awesome update man, I really dig that graphite reduction piece too. I always love checking your stuff out, keep up the updates! :)
January 6th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Nice work Dude,
It's really cool to see a visible improving in your art, even over the space of a few months. What really got me was how your confidence appears to have improved too, particularly with the pen/brush and ink sketches.
Keep it up :D
That fat kid
January 6th, 2006, 04:16 PM
hey guys, i'm just going to go ahead and update, then edit in the replies, fair?
Magic Man: thanks! someday I'll get around to showing you my tits!
pennington: thanks! hope you can update soon!
SirGreenSock: thanks! I lightened up the water and faded it back into the background, but no repost. Hope you get ahold of some oils!
Fooxoo: thanks! the art schools aren't that hard on you, they'll just expect time and effort, and you've got a great picture!
untitiledser: thanks, I'm not sure what exactly I'm heading for art wise, just that I'm heading there...thanks for all the books, i'll have to hunt them down...
madplanet: I'm not a little fat kid because I'm a workaholic! thanks for the kind words!
Shinryu: thanks! hope you had a good new year too!
forever confused: thanks, but what about the drawings?
dCept: thanks! i'll try and bring out those highlights....and I might throw some paint on the teeth, that's just white canvas showing through, lol!
mentler: thanks for the advice, but I'm not sure how to do that effectively, I always think I'm doing that but I end up just having an amorphous blob of graphite, any tips? anyone?
Isobel: thanks, that girl was ref'd from softcore porn, its a great reference point....just make sure you don't draw the hardcore stuff, that might push the bounds of good taste! but yea, go forth and study anatomy! kisses back at you, who knows if I'm desperate, eh?
Flaskpost: thanks man! I'm scared to death of imaginative stuff, I keep thinking that i'll fail or something....I try and I get discouraged so I go back to my comfort zone...so I'll get on that and try and do one character or monster a week! keep working yourself, do some more life drawings!
Armando: Hey! glad to see you in here, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sticking with me! anyhow, I know exactly what you mean, and I think its product of me being too quick...anyhow, thanks for the tips! hope you update soon!
Noiion: thanks! I'll do me some more anatomical studies, along with full figure studies...Books, Books galore! I got like 30 I need to find, but I do really appreciate the advice and tip!
Max1975: thanks! its a cast of a hand holding a sphere, its great for practicing light!
Placeboast: thanks, I'll try to make sure I slow down so I can keep improving my hatching...and that's totally up to you, I really just want to see if the people got the likeness, but hey, you naked is probably worth it!
Hiipi: thanks! I'll keep on posting! its great to have this community!
Gloominati: thanks, sp's do seem to be a good way....and you nailed it, I ted to rush too much, tha thanks for stopping by!
Qxzi:thanks for stopping by..I'm not stoned, but I get that alot...never gotten high in my life, actually...anyhow, hope you had good holidays too!
Janvanyorck:thanks man! hope you keep your sketchbook updated!
Brentm: Thanks! I will!
DazWatford: thanks! improvement is the name of the game, even for the professionals!
just sketches, a fraction of the past few days
January 6th, 2006, 04:24 PM
holycrap2 indeed! Your pencil work has improved tremendously, its clear in this update youve been working hard!
Marker work looks good, but could still stand to be pushed a bit more. Hand cast drawing has good volume, but is being flattened by the bright white background. Because the background is so bright, it kills the highlights.
January 6th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Love the update, and like i said before, i love the self portraits. That hand looks very life like, do more. I also like the ink self portrait. You know what i said before, about you looking like my brother, well i just quickly compared you too, and you look very alike. He has a goaty, you do too, he has messy hair(sorry), and you do too :D :D :D
Keep it up !
January 6th, 2006, 11:13 PM
This is a community, right?! Hey, some unusual angles on that top page. Why didn't you rotate it digitally after scanning? What I think would be helpful, would be looking at the first couple of pages in Loomis's heads book, the part about organizing the head with a sphere and circles/ellipses. I still haven't gone through the book yet, but I did do those first few pages. I spent several days just studying that, I never put it in my sketchbook though, because does anyone seriously want to look at several pages of circles with ellipses in them?
January 6th, 2006, 11:21 PM
teasing factoid koolaid
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/204.jpg From the looks of this last update your pencil skills are improving ... i can tell from this one that you are totally drawing what you see and there isn't the stylization. the way you've rendered the light falling is very natural and pleasant.
January 6th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Fatty McFat, good work continuing these SP's. I've been doing tons myself, and as cheesy as it sounds, I swear a piece of my heart is turning to stone because I can't post my sketches. Just one crit, maybe try rotating book pages like the first picture of the last post of pics; it's a lot easier on the neck and eyes if you don't have to turn your head to visualize things. But other then that man, keep the gears grinding!
January 6th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Good work mate! Nice to see you pushing those values! Your portraits are comming along nicely.. Need to study more hands though there lacking! Keep up the good work bro...
January 7th, 2006, 06:51 AM
Hey man! Good lookin' on the studies. Like Seth1 said, hands need some work. Even so, I'm diggin on the one with the hand holding the ball.
January 7th, 2006, 07:00 AM
great updates !!!
cheers dude and thanks for the kind words at my SB!
January 7th, 2006, 11:27 AM
hi fat kid, come to check in once again :) you're definately improving a lot! keep them coming, I enjoy watchin them :) :)
January 7th, 2006, 01:46 PM
Some MAJOR improvement over the coarse of this thread. You have a very nice loose style. Makes me happy to see that someone is still doing things this way - seems to have gone down in popularity since the times of old. Keep it up!
January 7th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Yes, you are a workaholic! I need to borrow just a wee bit of that energy and ambition. Your sketches are coming along just fine, I especially like the hand with the ball, that came out nice. Looking forward to seeing more goodies.
January 8th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Love that hand with the ball and the sleeping person.
January 9th, 2006, 12:50 PM
hey you are doing really good ;)
January 9th, 2006, 12:56 PM
nice work, tfk. from your pic, i think your chin is a little more flat than in a lot of your sp's. your nose is a little crooked, however, so i wont crit that. j.k. anyway, sp 2 from the 7th is really nice; i always enjoy seeing your rendering. keep up the good work dude, ill see you around. daily. ;)
January 10th, 2006, 02:57 PM
Only a fraction? Post the rest! :)
January 10th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Looks nice! Seems like you are a big basketball fan? :) I like the hand sketch. Looks really good painted. But I think your arm is a little too thin. Or maybe you jave some monster hand? :) Who knows ... :pirate:
January 10th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Ok now I'm just disappointed...You are teling me that "THAT FAT KID" isn't even fat? Oh come on man...I imagined you as a mini santa claus and I liked that dream. Well it's better for your health I guess...I am starting to get soft around the edges myself hehe...seems like age 25 is the metabolic cutoff point hehehe. At least it feels that way...ok anyways. What I was going to say is that I am stoked that you are doing a bargue! Couple things I noticed (hard to see a lot on the bargue with the pic but I know how that is)...number one is that the upper right section looks off. Looks like the top right shoulder is way to low. Check that out...also the bump right above the two "butt bumps" on the back is also too far down. It should be further up that side and a different shape. Also the bargue in general looks way too wide...measure it and see if you have gone wrong in the width somewhere...I think it's the left shoulder though that is coming out too far. Also with your line quality on the bargue you have not kept your lines clean at all. Erase all those thick lines and get your pencil ultra ultra sharp...and make ONE line...the correct one. If you can't make the correct mark...erase it...do it again. Hold the pencil towards the back of it so that you have a higher range of motion. Don't hold the pencil like you are writing...that is death to stroke making. And above all I think you could use a much much much much lighter touch with all of your drawings. You are bearing down on the paper and I can see it. Also your marks are uncontrolled.
Ok as far as your self portraits...you are not preserving your lights. Everything looks gray...Nothing really pops. Ok you have to think of it this way...you look at something in reality and it has a billion values in it. It goes from extremely dark (can't see your hand in front of you in a cave) to extremely light (looking the sun straight on). We can never make any oil paint or pencil go as dark as the inside of a cave...and never ever make any oil paint that shines like the sun (maybe with the sun's plasma in the future or something but that is weird to think about). Ok so what do we have to do SIMPLIFY! When you draw or paint...you are simplifying EVERYTHING...and in pencil...you have about 1/100th of the value range that you have in real life with your eyes. So you have to make some decisions...where does the light go...where does the dark go, etc... When you do your next self portrait I want you to do this...put a light on your face...a direct light so you have real defined shadows. Only draw the shadow shapes.........only draw the shadow shapes...no eyelids...no pupils (unless you see them when you squint) etc... Draw the shadow shapes and put NOTHING in the other areas. The only thing I want you to do is pay attention to the edges of the shadow shapes (like around a cheek etc...)...if the shadows curve (value wise) slowly into the other part of the face...make your shadow do the same...you should reflect the same edges in your drawing but not the exact same values. No more of this all gray stuff. In your last self portrait your beard is darker than the shadow under your hair by your face and I know that isn't right. Really separate everything into lights (the white of your paper), midtones (the transition edges into the lights of your paper), and the darks. Now when you lay down town...follow the form with your strokes and keep your pencil really sharp. Have a super super light touch. Build up the value very very slowly. When you get a little dark or light patch in the shadow areas...pick it out with your kneaded eraser. Be more controlled and you will like the results a lot more ;) What you did by defining those shadow shapes in that marker sketch is definitely more along the lines of how you should be thinking...go with that.
There are many things I am happy that you have done! Everyone is giving you encouragement...so I thought I would blast you...all in love...just trying to help.
January 10th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Sweet nice! great to see those portraits. They feel alive.
January 10th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the feed its what I need <> good to see you working with some wet media <> try it all <>
January 15th, 2006, 09:02 AM
This one I really like :)
Great work man, keep going.
That fat kid
January 17th, 2006, 10:42 AM
quick update before class, i'll post replies soon!!
just sketches and sp's, that bargue got put off because I moved back into the dorms
January 17th, 2006, 10:54 AM
Still pushin' I see! Great stuff.
I'm not even gonna try to crit ya after mindcandyman gave his insane indepth crit..
Diggin on this one (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/214.jpg)!
January 17th, 2006, 10:56 AM
HEY MAN, your doing great, love the SPs, really cool man.
I like the hand and skull studies, try to do more of them, but really learning, not just fast studies, it will help you a ton.
Anyways, glad to stop by in your thread and see such a hardworker.. :)
January 17th, 2006, 11:13 AM
hell yah fat burning though the paper drawing every thing !!!!! hot hot hot !!!!!
January 17th, 2006, 11:51 AM
huge update, bro! you´re keeping it up!
i´m enjoying this http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/213.jpg soo much!
look like you had alot of fun doing it!
January 17th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Nice work. Keep em coming.
January 18th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Sweet! Marker work is showing way better values. Only thing I see thats still taking away from some of this work is the line quality. Practice using less lines to make your work more confident. One way is to simply force yourself to do it with a single line, no more. If the line isnt right, erase it, but focus on accuracy with a single stroke. Another way is to do blind contours to improve your hand-eye coordination. Takes more effort, but helps as well.
January 18th, 2006, 11:28 AM
hey man. i see me in there a few times. i'm loving the grayscale prisma's. the ones that you did in color could use a little cleaning up. i cant wait to see soem of you class assignments.
January 18th, 2006, 03:33 PM
T H A T___F L A G R A N T___K I L L A H :
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/209.jpg all are looking really nice: I'd like to some cleaner lines, but damn i'm just so happy to see an update buddy! After reading the stuff above i'm realizing that it was academic and you had to freaking move twice (ha ha i hated that about living in the dorms :-( ) within the span of about a month. damn it looks like you totally busted through the pages-- i love seeing that. Shred through them, you drawing FIEND... My only crit would be that you should try and get some suggestion of the edge of your face / head into these, just to give the viewer something of a frame of reference and the face doesn't end up just floating in space on a page. great work friend.
in closing, four, important words for ya: "MONTREAL WORKSHOP SKETCH JAMZ!!!!!".
January 18th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Yes, finally, an update FATTY! I was wondering where the hell you went. Cool to see you messing around with the different colored inks. Your pencil work has gotten a lot stronger, as with your pens too. Keep it up man, we need the updatezord! And I agree with guggenmaneuver, MONTREAL;lkja;glkjakjgl;kj!
January 18th, 2006, 05:40 PM
Take another look at the 2nd(last) joint of the thumb, in profile look at the concave line formed from the skin part moving to the nail, also look at the double curve of the pad of the thumb. Another tip is that the fingers are like D in section, the top and sides are curved and the bottom is flat. Sticking with that first pic with the hands, the form is weak for several reasons: Unsure contour lines. After you've kind of felt your way through with those lines, you should go in again with one line picking out which is most descriptive. Yeah, just concentrate on those contours, make sure they're true. I have to point out that that thumb looks more like a big toe.
January 19th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Hands are looking good as far as volume and 3-dimensionailty go, might wanna spend some more time on the details and tighting up the lines. That cloth study is awesome.
January 19th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I completely missed the last post. Color stuff is new, kind of interesting I like the robes.
January 19th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Hey man, looking good. Diggin the range of media your using on those self portraits!
January 21st, 2006, 02:33 PM
Yo. Getting a kick out of those prismacolors? I know I am. Those sps are still nice. Try Mr. Roddy's idea, you know, the representational object sp. It'd be neat. That oil is your best yet. Unless it's Mo, I couldnt tell you who it is. Sorry. The eyes are not clear enough. It was probably the picture. But, I still think it looks like Mo in a lot of places. Nicely done.
January 21st, 2006, 03:18 PM
Those coloured self portraits are cool. Good woman wrapped in cloth too. Keep it up :D:D
That fat kid
January 21st, 2006, 10:47 PM
hey guys, time to post a ridiculous amount of replies.....
SirGreenSock: hey man! glad you come in here a lot, it actually brightens my day to see 'regulars'...anyhow, thanks for the compliment about my pencils, I took your advice to heart on the last update and shaded around the drapery study to keep the highlights....and I've gotten a little bit more used to the markers...keep drawing, love your stuff!
Qxzi: thanks! yea, I definitely look like a lot of people, people tell me that I look like other people all the time....it must just be something about ne....maybe I'm too average looking? anyhow, i'll keep drawing! and so should you!
armando: HEY! more community to us all, especially from my longest supporter, who has given me the most support and guidance from the beginning! anyhow, I have gone through those loomis books, and did throw down some circles with ellispes and some various other exercises....they DO help more than I thought they would....I wish the online books still worked, oh well....and I didn't rotatee it digitally because I'm an idiot and didn't notice...anyhow, thanks for always coming back.
guggenmaneuver: thanks! I've been working on drawing from life, style is the furthest thing from my mind...I sure hope I can make that workshop...
Zord: thanks man! regularity makes me feel good, so I do daily sp's, plus I started doing daily hand studies recently..I hate it when I can't update, so I totally understand what you mean about stone....I can't wait to see a hige update from you soon here, keep drawing!
seth1: thanks! yea, i've been working, and I took your advice and started daily hand studies, hopefully it'll pay off in a month or so....keep drawing yourself!! thanks again for coming in here!
dCept: thanks! yea, hands are going to worked on daily...that hand holding a ball is a cast I recently bought, great investment in my little old opinion.....btw, thanks for stopping by so much!
hurricane: thanks for coming in here! and you're stuff deserves more than kind words, keep drawing!
Haldor: thanks, I always appreciate you stopping by, there will always be more to watch...keep working yourself!
masterpug: thanks, where've you been in the last few months, you used to update fairly regularly...anyhow, thanks, you're right, digital is the new way to most people, but it strikes me that old ways just make the new ways easier....
madplanet: hey, thanks! nah, it isn't work, its more fun than anything else I do.....I guess the ambition is really powerful, but I don't notice it because i'm so close to it...if you can figure how to get it, you can have all the energy you want...update!
buzzz3d: thanks! I hope you update soon!
OleOlson: thanks, I'll keep working! cheers all around!
purb36: thanks! yea, my nose is bent, it looks like it broke a few times in my life....and you're right, I don't really have much of a chin....you'll see me around, maybe not as daily as I'd hoped.....thanks though!
bRØk3n_sPiRiT: thanks for coming in, i only like to post relatively decent stuff to help my ego, my bad....
ThomasK: thanks, basketball? that's a cast with a fairly large hand, yea, at that angle it does seem huge.....anyhow, i'll keep working
MindCandyMan: sorry for not being an extremely portly mini santa, seems like I disappointed a lot of people with my pic, lol.....I think i'm used to being refered to being fat from my wrestling days in high school when anything over 152 was considered a 'fat body'.....oh well, i'm over 200 and that seems plenty heavy to most people...anyhow...
like always, you're totally right, that bargue is incredibly helpful...however, its by far the most difficult thing I've ever tried to draw....I guess I have no reason not to do a few of them and really let the learning begin....I drew that line like 30 times, but no in one smooth stroke, so I guess I have a new challenge...darn....oh well...no decent updates on that crazy hard project yet..
and the portraits, I went with the markers and tried some extreme simplifying, only seeing lights and darks a few times...looks like a jim morrison poster....I'll have to do the same thing with just shapes and a pencil, then build it up slow and try and get rid of my heavy handedness....man, you don't ask much, do you? lol...anyway, I can't express how much I appreciate your advice and critique, there's no better way to grow as an artist or a person than to work on it....see you around, and i hope your recent goals are all met!
hamb6960: thanks! we draw what's alive so it should feel that way, right? thanks for stopping in!
mentler: thanks! i've been investing in new media just to expand, thanks for feeding my need....or something
Melancholie: thanks! I will keep working!
ARGH! should have responded last time, guess I learned my lesson
dCept: thanks for always coming in here, means a lot to me....I can't believe how much we can all learn from MCM, i'll be working weeks just to get down all his recent crits....anyhow, thanks man, i'll keep working
Diego: thanks! you're absolutely right, I oughta slow down and really look and learn...man, do I have a lot to work on....very daunting...
liam.c: hey! thanks, just trying to increase my 'visual vocabulary'...thanks for coming in!
Flaskpost: thanks! here's another huge update, and yea, i enjoy almost all of my drawings!
Orozc0: thanks! I will!
SirGreenSock: thanks, yea, you're right, line quality will be my downfall...yet another thing to work on....ARGG!!...i tried some single line things in this update....and I guess i'll throw down some blind contours....
mitch: hey thanks, those colors are new to me, I'll have to get used to them...the class assignments are going to get stranger and stranger....
guggenmaneuver: thanks! shredding through the pages is my middle name, or something....i'll work on line quality, it just seems like everything is stacking up the more I draw...the more problems I solve the more I realize I need to work...oh well, maybe I can get some insight at that workshop I so desperatey want to attend....thanks for coming in!
Zord:thanks! just cuz I'm not updating don't mean I'm not drawing.....I'll try to make them more regular and just as big...moving in and out of them dorms is tough, makes it hard to keep the updates coming...montreal baby!
armando: always the tough love, lol....last things first, my thumb really does look like a big toe and my big toe is just gigantic, but I totally understand what you mean.....I guess I'll have to tighten everything up about my studies...thanks for the crit, I really appreciate it!
max1975: thanks, hands are one of my weak points, so I'll keep working...and i'll keep doing studies til my eyes bleed...
Valengar: thanks, keep checking back!
sabe2003: thanks, media is just something to draw with, hopefully I can find some more!
Sedig: yup, it is mo, the picture is was the foggiest thing every, no flash and moving, lol....i'll have to keep doing oil, if I can devoe 10 hours at a time...we'lll see what objects represent me....thanks for checking in!
fooxoo: thanks! keep your sb updated!
holy crap, that took a very long time, remind me never to put off replies...here's the update:
January 21st, 2006, 10:56 PM
GREAT updates man! Watch your propotions! and just to tell you I love you man:D
That fat kid
January 22nd, 2006, 08:30 PM
seth: thanks, I'll watch the proportions.....and I love you too
January 22nd, 2006, 08:32 PM
great updates !
try to draw more from life and less from photo...go and ask some people on the street or something...i love the nose and eyes on http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/240.jpg
keep at it !
January 22nd, 2006, 09:51 PM
page ten! you´re a monster. :)
and awesome progress since the first pages!
keep rockin it!
and btw, what Hurricane said. :D
January 22nd, 2006, 09:59 PM
Agreed! (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/240.jpg)The highlight you erased out on that nose of yours made me SHED A TINY TEAR! Rock it don't stop it
January 22nd, 2006, 11:15 PM
My god! I go away for a day or two and you make me shit myself all over man. I love you dude!
Everything looks awesome, looks like youre really paying attention and learning more with each post! Your linework and values are improving, especially in your self portraits!
Watercolour looks pretty good I wanna see you play with it more! Its a very pure and expressive medium. Experiment with letting go and letting the colours flow and mix. Cant wait to see what comes out of it!
I agree with Hurricane on doing more life studies. But theres no need to ASK people now is there :P Just go out into a park and start drawing or something!
That last sp is your best one so far, youve developed a great light touch with the pencil. Just be careful when hatching those broad areas, that it doesnt get messy. Keep the hatching tight and follow the form.
January 23rd, 2006, 01:35 AM
hey man, you're improving so fast, really fast. It seems that you're working hard.
Love the portraits and the SP, your doing great with these, keep at it.
Always a pleasure to stop by in your thread, really inspiring, seriously.
January 23rd, 2006, 01:40 AM
I agree with hurricane about that image - you are defining alot with very little there, and your lines are very confident there.
Things are looking good, and I also recommend the life-drawing vs. photos if possible. Use photos too when needed, but it's important to study from life.
keep it coming man...your progress has been really impressive
January 23rd, 2006, 05:23 AM
Well, seems as everyone s saying that they love you... so I love you too ;) :teeth:
I wish I could draw myself as good as you do that :P But I need a mirror ..... dont have one big enough ...
Keep it up :D
January 23rd, 2006, 02:04 PM
Your sp's kick mine in the butt. And you must kick yourself pretty hard to keep on doing them every day. Seems it pays off tho, you're progressing like a motherfucker. Can't imagine you need anyone to tell you this, but keep on drawing.
January 24th, 2006, 01:17 AM
Just wanted to drop in and give some props. Your rendering's getting a lot tighter. The portraits are coming along nicely, the girl's hair looks good. Maybe try working on it some more, it'd be better finished. The little ribbon-arrows are interesting too, they give the page a nice touch of graphics. And I agree with Sock, just go out and drawz like a crazy stalker. It doesn't matter if people are watching, just be stealthy, ninja-like. Cheers sir.
January 24th, 2006, 01:22 AM
I got to get back to daily sp's! damn... Good work man!
January 24th, 2006, 03:22 AM
Patience, young one. ;) School's back in session and I'm busy to the 'inth degree. I'll try and get some stuff scanned soon, man. I know I'm long overdue.
Great work going on in here, as usual. Nice to see the continued improvment. Wish you'd spend a decent amount of time one a drawing tho! These all seemed so rushed! Make sweet love to the paper! Spend some quality time with it! ;)
Again, thanks for bumping my sketchbook so everyone notices... Grr... lol
January 24th, 2006, 03:41 AM
Awesome stuff young grasshopper! Your hatching is getting more confident by the day.. I'm impressed!!
Keep 'em coming!
January 24th, 2006, 03:42 PM
hey thanks a lot!! your stuff's looking great. more, More, MORE!
That fat kid
January 25th, 2006, 02:04 AM
hey guys, dang it, not daily still....
hurricane: thanks! yea, i'll hit the life drawing up! I miss it actually....
Flaskpost: thanks man! yea, i always take hurricane's advice seriously...
guggenmaneuver: thanks joel! I actually didn't erase them out, i just shaded up to them...but its the thought that counts!
SirGreenSock: thanks! more lifedrawing soon.....along with the assignments, imagination, working on my lines, working on my forms, the bargue....and taking an italian class.....man....college is work....But I would love to experiment more with the watercolors some more, but it just whips my sketchbook's butt, I'm going to get one with 140 lb paper in it.......but i will go ninja sketching!
Diego: thanks man! i don't mean to improve, i just want to draw more often! thanks for coming in!
loomer: one of my heroes! thanks! i do need to do more life drawing......who knew that posting one photo referenced picture would lead to so much advice.....i seriously don;t notice any progress....i'll work on becoming more egotistical, lol!
fooxoo: I love you too, finish off that master study and do some life drawing! and the mirror I use for my self portraits is about 3 by 5 inches....not very big. just draw all the time, you'll be great in no time! thanks!
Boogieman:thanks, actually, i don't really stress out about keeping them daily, I just keep a mirror on my desk so I end up just doing a couple sp's because its convenient....the most important thing is just observational drawing.....I'll keep the pencil moving!
Zord: thanks! i'll be all over the ninja, stalker -esque life drawing, art history's tomorrow so i'll draw the bejesus out of them...the arrow things...i don't know why i decided to do that....lol...keep up the drawing vigil!
seth1: thanks, sp's like mad!! you inspired me to do mine, get back in the habit!!
ZebzFree: thanks, I know how busy life is in college, especially with the big projects they throw at you....I shall 'make love to the paper,' so to speak, and take my time with a drawing...glad you updated....try and do it at least once a week for me?
dCepT: thank you, master!
pennington: thanks! we all need to do more, More, MORE!!
January 25th, 2006, 02:13 AM
Aha! Another update! Looks like you scanned the underside of a turtle, but she isn't real, is she? Or is she unreal? a;lkdjf;akjf;klajdf
The SP's are nice, I like the vibrant colors on the last one. The piece with white conte on black, is that a SP too? Either way, it's got a good contrast to it. Are these done for class? If so, they're interesting assignments. And I see more arrows! And dude... MONTREALZ!!!!1!11!!!one!11!!!
January 25th, 2006, 03:20 AM
Picking up the pace, or have I just been out of it?
Things are looking very good...love the white-on-black stuff, and the bits of color popping up here and there. Most stuff is still pretty sketchy, but that's fine, this being a sketchbook after all.
Love it when you just fill up a page, like this: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/239.jpg
January 25th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Wicked portraits man!
January 25th, 2006, 03:00 PM
Hay long time no see Fat Kid. It look like be busy the past few weeks with those sketches. Like always those protrait are looking good. I really like the last one you did.
January 25th, 2006, 03:26 PM
interesting, interesting, interesting. Love your work. You've been alot of self portraits, and there getting better! The last update was a killer, loved all of it. But that colour self portait( looks like coloured pencil), looks amazing. I just love it :D That blue just fits the picture so well. And this time i wont forget to keep on posting, promise ! ! ! :D
January 25th, 2006, 10:56 PM
I really like that white pastel on black drawing good work
January 26th, 2006, 12:55 AM
Your pencil works are just great and I'm liking when you throw in the color stuff, too. I really like the black paper sketch, it has a nice effect. I'd like to see more of this kind of stuff from you, I think it could be very interesting.
January 26th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Nice Fatty!! I can't want to see the sort of offspring you create as you commit sin with your pencil and paper. :P These are good tho. The portrait experimenting is especially interesting. I'll leave my rush of comments for the post when you show me your love makin' abilities. So bring it, please.
As for my updates... I'll do my best. Anything for the fat kid. ;)
January 26th, 2006, 01:21 AM
I like the mood of your artwork. especially in the portraits. I'm also feelin' the use of color (something I need to do more of). Your linework has a fluid quality to me (another thing I'm striving to do). Keep on goin' and improving!
January 26th, 2006, 01:32 AM
Another Impressive update from you! Woot.. Keep atter.
January 26th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Great work fatty! Self portraits are showing a lot of strong value now!
Now that youve got the hang of this viewing and lighting angle, time to maybe try a new one?
January 26th, 2006, 11:26 AM
hey man, sweet couple of posts! i really like the white face on the black paper(is it charcoal??). also, i'd like to see some more completed drawings, the doodles are cool, but they dont reflect your full potential. and why is the superman guys junk so big???? -peace man-
January 26th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Great updates, dig this one a lot
colours messed this one up a bit I'd say though
perhaps trying a limited palette might help you out.
January 26th, 2006, 08:31 PM
Man you have a lot of self portraits! I bet I could recognize you if I saw you walking down the street ;) That last black and white one is awesome, very beautiful. Your rendering has improved a lot too since the first few pages, much less scribbly. Update more!
That fat kid
January 27th, 2006, 04:20 AM
hey guys, update because guggenmaneuver...well....because I just told him I would....man, i oughta try this replies sooner, lol
Zord: Nope, not an assignment, just figured I'd whip out the weird materials for fun....man, do I want to go to montreal, i'll figure out someway to get up there! thanks for stopping in!
max1975: dunno if i picked up the pace, but glad you stopped by again! I'll try and clean it up in the near future, I have an assignment for drawing class due monday, I'll post it since it'll be a finished drawing! thanks!
crimsoneye: thanks, it has been a long time. I'll pop over to your thread soon!
Qxzi: thanks! don't sweat it aboutposting, just make sure you draw every day, that's what I really care about!
crob21: thanks! I hope you try it....I've been in you thread a few times lately, I'll make sure I post there soon!
madplanet: thanks! I think I'll try to use weird materials more often, or combine a few....thanks for the encouragement!
ZebzFree: Hey man! I'll definitely commit heinous deeds that are illegal in alabama with the paper for this assignment in drawing...should be sick....i'll be looking forward to you ripping me apart! thanks!
seansea: thanks! i'll hunt down your stuff and return the favor!
seth1: thanks! i'm loving your recent self portraits in acrylic, i'll hit up your thread soon!
SirGreenSock: My favorite canadian! thanks! yea, I usually do my self portraits at my desk in the dorm with the lamp on right next to me...i'll change it up...it is getting boring, lol!
mitch: hey, thanks man! its conte on black pastel paper. superman is my RA, so I figured I'd be flattering since the poor guy is only 5'2'', lol! completed work on the way!
blacky: thanks for the advice, i'll try not to wreck my stuff, lol
runtosaurus: thanks! hopefully you'll see me in montreal if you happen to go...i'll try and update more often....i meant daily when I started, but life does get in the way....so sad.....
update, smallish, my bad!
January 27th, 2006, 05:15 AM
There you go with the crazy ass arrows again. The self portrait's looking really good, your improvements damn quick. The face on the bottom right corner is rendered really well too, it shows good lighting. And are those sketches of people I see? That's some samurai goodness.
January 27th, 2006, 05:31 AM
Huge improvments man! Sp really pay off hey! Keep going man, just practice hard! Will you be going to montreal? Thanks for the props on my sp's as well.
January 27th, 2006, 10:00 AM
The last few sp's of yours, especially the latest in pencil, I think show some real improvement. You're getting killer. There's always more to learn tho and for you I think you need to take your own advice and put some focus on improving line quality. Rock on.
January 27th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Good update, love the pencil work, also love the self portrait again, draw more :D
January 28th, 2006, 02:44 PM
how to say you , it's always a plasure to travel in your universe with your loosy sketches and awesome selfportraits !
January 28th, 2006, 03:03 PM
TFK, your SP is looking solid! Reeeeally like how you've blocked in the forms around the closer eye, the cheek structure transitioning into the nose, the tip of the nose, and the mouth. Keep at it!
January 29th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Love to check on your progress <> it is rewarding to see talent emerging <> your work is getting a lot more sensitive in a good way
January 29th, 2006, 05:36 PM
ghehe, again you have been mostly productive! that's just wonderfull!! :) I have much respect for you because of that, because you do what I should do :p the stuff is sweet, keep on going!!! :)
January 29th, 2006, 08:12 PM
So proud! ;) Nice doodles, bro. I love the faces. And the immediacy of the pencils. You're really jottin' these down. Quickly and fairly accurate, man!!! Keep bringin' the pain! ;)
January 29th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Looking good as usual, keep tightening up those pencils. Recently Ive been experimenting with layering my pencil in small light strokes the way I do when I paint as well. It creates an interesting effect, and looks tighter. Maybe try it out sometime.
By the way, I'll have something for you in my sketchbook when I update tonight or tomorrow!
January 30th, 2006, 07:28 PM
I'll chime in with the chorus here... you're improving very very fast now! I'm impressed!!
Diggin' on this one (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/244.jpg)!!
January 30th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Hey holt. Did you trim the goat? It looks shorter in that latest SP. Was there a ref for the superman-esque figure? Do you have an explanation for the arrows? A study of some sort? Anyhow, you just keep chugging along. Keep it up.
January 31st, 2006, 03:26 AM
Cool updates. My favorite things here are actually those ribbony arrows :) But the sketching continues to progress, keep it up.
January 31st, 2006, 04:53 PM
Nice update, this sp is actualy darn good
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/251.jpg (what happened to the rest o your head though? ;))
Interesting ribbon and value studies. Also good to see you draw from life.
January 31st, 2006, 05:10 PM
Finally made it in to your SB - really enjoyed it!
Your draftsmanship is improving quickly - shows your dedication to the pencil! Your self portraits in post 524 (I think) were loose and expressive in developing contour and cross hatching for tone. Bravo!
At any rate, thanks for poppin' in my SB...so sorry it has taken me so long to say hey in yours!
January 31st, 2006, 05:16 PM
Always great to see whatt you got going, dude. Maybe push the values a bit more - go darker and clean up a few of the lines. Use variation in the hatching to define volume. keep it up, dude!
January 31st, 2006, 05:42 PM
In the last update 4th paper is reallly nice! Cool portrait! Thubs up :D
February 1st, 2006, 01:02 AM
HEYO :android: u make me SLAP MYSELF AND TELL MYSELF> COME ON BITCH DRAW MORE.
Lotssa stuff, Alotta improvements. Ur self portraits are coming along realy good. The thing that u work on different mediums AMAZE me, 100 diff things, style u used. its Like" :frustrated: " like " F*** U"
;D nehow those last portraits u did with pencil are comin out real good.
From ur last update love the 3rd and 4th page. those sleepy eyes of that lady are sooo.. makes me wanna rest abit, :zzz:
KEEP IT UP. DONT STOP MAN.
February 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM
UPDATE YOUR Beepin THREAD
February 1st, 2006, 01:35 AM
i second that seth1! I love the energy you put into your drawings! Your sketches definetly shows your enthusiasim towards improving as an artist. Please keep it up!
February 1st, 2006, 01:53 AM
yeah cool stuff! i second what fellah said. more contrast.
That fat kid
February 1st, 2006, 12:09 PM
hey guys, everytime I get ready to update I get a cannot find server message, so I'm going hurry and try when I don't have class.
Zord: Yup, i'm enjoying the crazy arrows too, and the people sketches....more are going to be done today! with more sp's of course....thanks!
seth1: thanks, yea, I fully intend to get to montreal, hope to see you there!
Boogieman: thanks, and you're on to me, I usually preach whatever I'm working on since its in the front of my mind, so I'll keep working on the line quality. And your right, there always is more to learn!
Qxzi: thanks! We can always draw more!
Shylone_Breath: thanks! Its always a pleasure to know its a pleasure!
Dutton: thanks dutton, your stuff looks great too! I highly suggest that anyone who hasn't gone into his sketchbook do so, its got some good stuff!
mentler: thanks! That's a huge compliment coming from you, but i'll try and keep my ego in check and keep working!
Haldor: thanks! and I'm no where near as productive as Greensock, I gotta start drawig more!
ZebzFree: thanks man! the pain is brought, and I took a little more time on some recent ones, tell me if you can figure out whih ones! anyhow, I'm looking forward to you updating your thread!
SirGreenSock: thanks, I definitely will try the layering thing....I usually end up rushing when I draw because I want the image to appear so quikly....BUT NO MORE!!! anyhow, looking forward to your update as well!
dCepT: thanks! always glad to have a chorus!
Sedig: the goat has been trimmed, and my hair cut. I know longer look like a raging hippy. and the arrows are just for fun. The superhero's face is my RA in the dorm, hence the gigantic package....I thought it'd make him feel better since he's only 5'3'' or something, lol! thanks for comig by!
max1975: thanks! yea, the arrows are a blast to draw, but I oughta draw from life more often....oh well...
blacky: thanks! well...The rest of my head is probably not visible in my hand sized mirror since I sit so close to the darned thing....but I'll scoot back and mak sure I get the whole head.
redehlert: thanks! always glad to see you in here! and thakns for the kind words!
Fellah.: thanks for the crit, i can always use them. the contrast and line weight WILL be addressed soon!
fooxoo: thanks! your getting to be quite a regular in here, you post more than I do too, lol!
HEROIC: thanks! I hear your a friend of Greensock's, I'll make sure I keep track of your stuff, could prove to be interesting. thanks for all the kind words, now go forth and draw!!
seth1: I'm ashamed, i never thought I'd take so long that someone would need to tell me that...thanks for the kick in the head.....
spicy meatballs: thanks, I shall keep the energy! especially with all you guys harassing me too! kidding, lol!
pennington: thanks! yea, I tend not to go too dark, maybe I'm scared of it?
that took awhile, lol!
February 1st, 2006, 12:16 PM
!!!!!!!!! NICE update ... but honestly... this guy looks totally fucked up (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/263.jpg) ...
HEHEHEe cheers dude.... hope you like my commander in grief wip its for you baby
February 1st, 2006, 12:20 PM
Haha! Great stuff! Portraits look great, captured the eyes especially well in em all!
Self portraits seem a bit messier, dont know if its bad scand or if you just didnt take as much time with them. Hatching could be tighter.
Love the classmates (?) though, theres great spacial sense going on!
Keep up the mannekein (cant spell today :D ) studies, they look interesting.
/haha commander in grief...
February 1st, 2006, 03:06 PM
Hey man, updates like these are what we like to see! And you did portraits of me and Sock! Damn, I gotta get working on those. The work on toned paper is nice, a lot improved from before. Nice use of highlights. Your ink/lines are getting there too, especially with the last page; quality over quantity my friend. And good job being all samurai-ninja in class! We needs more! MORE! Cheers, good sir!
February 1st, 2006, 04:12 PM
He also did a portrait of guggen, Zord!
Fatty, while were on the topic of toned paper, you gotta check out this figure drawing book I got today, The Artists Complete Guide to Figure Drawing by Anthony Ryder (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823003035/sr=1-1/qid=1138824609/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7558493-7526238?%5Fencoding=UTF8), its a fairly classical approach to figure drawing, and the man does some beautful chalk and charcoal/pencil on toned paper. Another book thats great in this respect is The Human Figure (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486204324/qid=1138824667/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7558493-7526238?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) by Vanderpoel, which you can actually find for pretty cheap right now (i got it for 5 bucks Canadian). Vanderpoel was Leyendeckers teacher!
/wee, post 469
February 1st, 2006, 04:19 PM
good update. Good portraits, get use of white with them! Your faces are really coming along. And with your sps, really good, is this your 1000 sp? :D
I would only say do some more drawings from life maybe? Overall, good update!
February 1st, 2006, 05:45 PM
Hey kid, those charcoal portraits are looking great, however they look awkward without the tops to their heads. Aaah, such is life.
February 1st, 2006, 06:05 PM
damn man! great update! your line quality is improving like... hell, man. :)
just keep it up! and i know you will!
February 1st, 2006, 07:22 PM
Love this one: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/262.jpg
Also like the little anatomy studies...adjust the contrast on the blue pencils though, they're pretty hard to see on the screen.
February 1st, 2006, 09:10 PM
Your lines are becooming very confident man! This a very nice update! keep up the hard worl...
February 1st, 2006, 09:18 PM
Looking real good here man. I agree with Fellah about the values...and to add to that I would perhaps simplify the shadows in bigger shadow shapes. If you ever look at an NC Wyeth painting his shadows are clearly defined, and he gets rid of alot of the "excess" and just breaks in down to like 3 or 4 values. Light, Midtone, Shadow...add accents and highlights where needed. OK..that's over simplifiying it..but you know what i mean.
Anyway..you are making great progress. looking forward to what your next post man.
February 1st, 2006, 10:35 PM
Looking good fatty! Your shredding though those pages !!!!!
hay give a go on making a little frame like say 4x6 or some thing and carry that around with ya whip it out and look around though it every so often then frame out the same size on your sketch book or blank page and sketch it from there first by seeing the relationship from the sides and the corners to what’s contained inside <find good composition interesting shapes in there > then have a go at drawing it in the frame might be fun exercise for ya is good transition from photos to life drawing maybe ) and endless source of material for sketching
February 2nd, 2006, 12:58 AM
KEEP THE SKETCHBOOK TURNED UP TO ELEVEN!
pages that is
February 3rd, 2006, 11:27 AM
DID YOU SAY YOU GOT A HAIRCUT!! oh man.....now who am i going to make fun of??? anyway...the posts are looking pretty good. i think the blue lwead is working really well for you. the conte's are a little sloppy. keep it up! i'll see ya later.
P.S. we are going to start working on the murals after school today!!
February 3rd, 2006, 12:13 PM
Yea!! That's right!! Much better!! Especially this one. (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/263.jpg) You're makin' some progress with that post, man. It shows you thinking more critically and watchin' those planes of the face more. Do more!! And some full figures too!! Think more!! Edjewcate yo sewf!! Can't wait to see more stuff, bro. This is the tip of the iceberg, just keep dishin' it out so I can see some overall skill level. Show us that you're the artist you want to be!
That fat kid
February 7th, 2006, 01:01 AM
what's up's guys! and hopefully gals!!
guggenmaneuver: Thanks man, your mug looks fine to me, lol....hope to see some updates on the commander in grief!
SirGreenSock: thanks! I'll try to tighten up, just for you....and observational drawing is too fun not to do!
Zord: Thanks! I've been working on slowing down and keeping line quality...i hope it pays off, because its hard work....remember that bargue? That thing is killing me....and school is too, might be a long time before I get to set aside time for it....I'll see if I can catch more of you radio show wednesday! 7-11 central right?
SirGreenSock: Hey, those books look interesting, i'll look into them....and I have no idea what post number this is, lol!
Qxzi: thanks! I really should be keeping track of my self portrait numbers, I might be able to outdo greensock...pfft! More life on the way!
madplanet: thanks, yea, i need to plan out my portraits a touch better, thanks for pointing that out!
Flaskpost: thanks, line quality will be the death of me....you keep it up too!
max1975: thanks! yea, i totally forgot to up the contrast on those, my bad....they're just some 'vag studies' anyway, lol....
loomer: thanks for the crit, i think simplification is going to be the way to go on value....making it all complex just makes it too hard and I speed up too much and don't learn as much.....I read through the mail letter and enjoyed it...i'll email you back if I happen to think of a crit, right now its a little out of my league to throw advice at you, lol......i would like to see some of the thumbnails a little more realized.
liam.c: thanks for the advice, I think I will keep a frame with me....a little thumbnail practice never hurt anyone....I love looking through your sketchbook!
guggenmaneuver: WOO!! page 11!!
mitch: yea, I got a haircut....make fun of will, he's got goofy long hair! I'll work on tightening up! thanks man!
ZebzFree: Thanks! Yea, i need to slow down more often, i learn way more! I guess I'll tackle full figures soon....I have an assignment right now for a life size self portrait...that's gonna dominate me, lol......I'll show you, I'll show you all!!
February 7th, 2006, 01:35 AM
wooh wooh, it feels so good to be the first to REPLY after an update :D
U are goin at those self portraits high speed eh?? :nohope: *SLAP* for me, gotta do more.
THis is (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/275.jpg) great
Those doodles in class are pretty fast, and Classy MOOD> i felt like skool now, EWWWW, TMR, NOOOOOOO. ANOTEHR DAY OF SKOOL
The face of that lady on ur second page to the far right is looking so nice.
life size self portrait...that's gonna dominate me
:x GIMME MOER SELF PORTRAITS.
Great progress man, Ur speed and input are Awesum, and the output u get, is gettin higher and better everytime, Just Keep GOing at it, TILL U DIE:needle: jks. :android:
February 7th, 2006, 01:45 AM
YES! Another update! Yea, i'd imagine the Bargue to take thousands of years to do... oh well, man. It's cool. Gotta get $h17 done. :) But yea man, your line quality's definitely improved by far, you can especially tell in the SP with blue ink. The left side of the nose is done well. But i've got one problem... we need more updates! Keep on going dude! We all push each others towards the finish line.
February 7th, 2006, 04:35 AM
hey love the latest self portrait! and nice expressions on some of the faces too! cool cool.
February 7th, 2006, 07:13 AM
Great improvements, and there's something really cool about that last SP!
Perhaps the pencils would be a bit smoother if you followed the contours of the form with a slightly finer touch?
February 7th, 2006, 11:35 AM
Starting to see a more sure hand <> try to approach drawing/painting in a manner that will help your focus <> have a place <> have the time and have to tools <> eliminate distraction as much as possible <> develop an attitude of professionalism <> approach drawing with the purpose of achieving the result you want!
February 7th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Good to see you update. Liking the blue sp's, and the woman posing on page 30 looks cool. A little scribbly, but cool. D-d-don't stop.
February 7th, 2006, 01:44 PM
O.....so many updates already?
Misses a bunch.
Dig this (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/263.jpg) one a lot.
Also this (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/280.jpg) one. Most likely as you're using watercolours on't. Should try more of these. On watercoulourpaper though.
oh, and I think this (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/277.jpg) one to be a valuable thing to do too
That fat kid
February 9th, 2006, 03:28 AM
YO! updates must be regular!!!! I've been slacking without realizing it, especially in light of mentler's reasoning....
HEROIC: thanks! yea, do some of your own SP's, i'd love to see them! I'm still impressed by you and greensock, still in highschool and better than men.....let's some some action!!
Zord: My favorite radio jockey, I caught the last few minutes, I spent too long at the art building.....thanks for dropping in...that bargue might be abandoned for this semester, my italian class is ridiculous....I'll keep working on the line quality, but you better too!
pennington: thanks, let's some more in your thread too!
Midnight: thanks for the crit, you're on to me...i bear down too much, and after MCM massive crit i've been more conscious of it...thanks again!
mentler: thanks! extremely sound and useful advice....actually, i need to start setting up a certain amount of time in a nuetral place to work.....thanks again!!
Boogieman: thanks! I w-w-won't stop! and keep your hand in that college portfolio!
Blacky: Sorry, I didn't mean to update too much....I'll keep working, and try some more watercolors! thanks!
this one's gigantic, those are 18 by 24 inch pieces of paper...class assignment...tell me if you recognize the pose and if any proportions are screwy...I already fixed the leg.
February 9th, 2006, 12:55 PM
OH DAMN. A huge ass fats. The first thing I noticed about this is the size of your head. It's a little small compared to the rest of the drawing. Also, your right foot seems a little too big. But i'm pretty sure if you fixed the head then things would look more proportional. And you got a haircut? C'mon, show us some more SP's. And keep filling up those pages! DO IT!
February 9th, 2006, 01:06 PM
this is good. real good. allowing the sketches to meld and integrate shows you're loose and open to let the mind wander. i need to do that more often. :)
keep em coming, tfk!
February 9th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Sweetass update fatty!
Like the sketchbook pages, lotsa cool ideas floating around there.
Hugeass self portrait looks good, is it all pencil? Doing a background?
Don't know what the ref looks like, but I think the shoulders are a bit too stiff, looks rigid.
I'll be doing a huge (probably even bigger than life-size, maybe even full-body) self portrait up next for my painting class, gonna be wicked!
February 9th, 2006, 03:53 PM
I reallly realllly want to try doing big scale drawings, I ll have to find a wall at home where I can stick some paper on :teeth:
The pose is good, I quite like it. Feet look good, the arms IMO need a bit defining. (not hands, well those too, but arms :P) Good stuff.
Really dig the hand holding a ball in one of the previous posts, keep it up, looks great :) CHeers
February 9th, 2006, 10:04 PM
jesus man!!! what did the paper ever do to you. i'm diggin the last post.....and the haircut.NICE!! but really, that last page is awesome but like i said, you should do some more completed drawings(look who's talking). Keep it up man. Later!!!
February 9th, 2006, 10:54 PM
ah. that's scary!! i'd never want to do something that big. it's good tho!
the first thing i noticed was the right thigh is a little thin.
February 10th, 2006, 05:21 PM
Hey. Life size? That's ridiculous. No time now, gotta go help Mr. R. with the mural...
February 10th, 2006, 10:32 PM
This is epic. (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/285.jpg)
96" wide by 56" tall, correct? very impressive effort, two comments / crits for you (probably you've already fixed these, but i imagine it is really tricky to draw this large...). Here's a laundry list
Your right forearm seems disproportionately long. bringing in this just slightly should resolve some of the stiffness i'm seeing in the shoulders.
good likeness in the face, though i'm afeared that something of a slight tilt may seem a little more natural.
looks great, and thanks so much for taking the challenge of working large... I think i speak for alll your cronies when i say that we CAN'T FREAKING wait to see another update on this epic challenge. hope this helps.
February 10th, 2006, 10:57 PM
Lot of awesome things in this update, particularly the faces...especially the shaded one in the middle here: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/284.jpg
I can see you're struggling a bit with shots of the head from below...don't know why those are so hard, but they are. However, you did a really nice job on the one right above the big eye (here: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/283.jpg ). Keep working on those, and if you discover a secret, please share :)
Skull studies look good too.
February 10th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Shit thats big! You're doing all that with a little pencil? Man... As Zord said I think the head might be a little small. But maybe that's just cause you're a big guy? And I gotta agree with guggen on the forearm. Other than that everything about the proportions and the pose look believable to me, but I can't say for sure as I don't have the ref. You doing this from mirror or photo? Anyway, good luck dude.
That fat kid
February 11th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Zord: thanks man, yea, my head's a bit small, which is the first time I've heard that in my life....but its on 4 different sheets of paper and I don't get to tack it back up until monday, so I believe that's a problem I have to live with....but the other things will be addressed!
redehlert: thanks! too bad my mind only seems to wander during class!
SirGreenSock: thanks! its vine charcoal so far, and its crazy tough to lay in proportions even remotely accurately on such a large scale, expecially when it HAS to be on separate sheets of paper.....I'll see what I can about those stiff shoulders....I hope to see your painting!
fooxoo: thanks! and do some big stuff, it makes you think differently....the pose is from the dying gaul, which you'll HAVE to learn about in art history....a lot of old masters used it so I figured, "great artists steal..." I'll buff up my arms for ya!
mitch: the paper needs to be punished! This giant SP will end up being a completed drawing, and I have one that I haven't posted yet because its on display in the art building......anyhow, keep drawing! thanks!
pennington: pfft!! do anything and everything, why else are you alive? that's the leg that I meant I fixed, but thanks for noticing and critiquing! thanks, keep up the fight!!
Sedig: slightly bigger than life size actually.....(that's what she said, LOL!) anyhow, i want to hear about how the murals coming along....along with the good old Roddy man....thanks for dropping in!
guggenmaneuver: no where near as epic as the montreal workshop! just made the payment and reserved a spot today! get yourself there!! I'll take any challenge as long as its epic, thanks for the crits, I'm all over correcting them.....however, I'm angry at myself for WHERE i blocked in the face...its on four separate sheets, and I can't hang it to work on it in my cramped little dorm, so anything pertaining to the head can't be helped until monday, I have to go sheet by sheet for this gigantic effort...should prove to be quite painful....anyhow, thanks!!
max1975: thanks! made the one in the middle up while I should have been paying attention in art history....all the shots from below I've been making up, without reference of any sort, so I end up guessing in areas that I'm not sure of....painful...I'll see if I can figure something out! thanks again!
Boogieman: thanks! photo, and its tiny compared to this....that arm gave me heck while I was blocking it in, and now that I've looked at it, i realze that the shoulder on the right is too big, which makes a lot of things look too small or too big....so i'll hit that too...its vine charcoal, a little looser medium....anyhow, keep up the good fight with the college portfolio, and draw more from life!!
No drawings tonight, Italian class has been sucking my time, not to mention this crazy design project. Seems like all my professors are dying to see us work large.....my first installation ever, and it'll probably be my last....planear and linear study in a three dimensional space....muslin, twine, and clothespins....and nails, lots of nails......bashed my thumb a few times trying to hang those low spots with all the other crap above me threatening to come undone.....
February 11th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Hey man, just wanted to drop by. That installation looks like it'd be a bitch to put up.. damn. You know what would be fun though? To just run through it and knock it all down. Unless the string/canvas or whatever it is, is so highly strung out that it'd knock the runner back like a cartoon character...I don't know what i'm talking about. But dude, we're missing the updates, c'mon... double ew tee eff. And remember, we are THE meat eaters.
February 11th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Hey that fat kid! Been awhile, you've definitely been improving a lot! Keep it coming dude :)
February 13th, 2006, 08:07 PM
I'm struggling like hell with that portfolio, and time is running out.. And yeah, I should draw more from life. Hell, I'm gonna.
About that installation, planear and linear study in 3D space? Huh? What did they say on the lecture to prepare you for doing it?
February 13th, 2006, 08:13 PM
some great stuff man !
i like it all !!
some are better than others but hey, we all have those days !
cheers man !
February 13th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Hey man. I havent talked to you in a really long time, and i figured since all you do is draw...i should talk here. You're stuff is getting very impressive...my drawing? still about the same...its progressing though...design though...love it...your love for drawing is like my love for design...anyways, i love your expression in your sketches...its great...your contours are really cool too...Good to see you're working on different styles and skills...i want to see some of your final projects and stuff for school if you have any of it...im bringing my portfolio home over spring break (march 3-12) so i'll bring it to your house...and i promise i will post some photography soon...haha...later man...
February 13th, 2006, 11:49 PM
I like what I'm seeing here. Good sketches, you're getting better post by post. And that last installation is very dynamic, gotta love design class!! haha. I'm actually doing a book for it this time. Alot of work, but atleast its not abstact color theories. Oh and my comment on the big self-portrait: the right foot looks a wee-bit feminine for my taste, maybe a smaller arch. And on the right leg, the bottom of the thigh needs to come down just a lil bit so that it looks like your ass is supporting your weight on that floor. Everything else looks good, I'm liking the layout on the hands.
February 14th, 2006, 12:35 AM
hey that's instalation's crazy! lotsa hard work. looks good!
February 14th, 2006, 02:38 PM
i thought you had an advance preview of our hostel room in montreal (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/287.jpg)
Wow... sculpture is so amazingly complicated to do... fun, but then, what do you do with it once you finish it? takes up a lot of space... In sculpture class in college i drilled right through my thumb (well... sort of) ... be careful!
February 14th, 2006, 03:38 PM
The large scale projects you have had to do recently are realy funny.
This one's (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/285.jpg) funny because it is so crazy yet appears like a very interesting and useful practice to me. I had to do a 6x5 feet painting some time ago, and it realy teached me a lot.
The installation is funny becausy for me, all of em are. They would not make any sense to me. It's like trying to express something one might not be capable of in a picture. But I guess your teachers know better than me, what good shalt come from it. It's looking interesting though. I mean, you've accomplished the assignment rather nicely, I'd say.
February 14th, 2006, 11:55 PM
I'm in something of a self imposed exile, not drawing much but reading, thinking, and training. Finally feel like I'm starting to wake up and come alive. I'm curious to know what the drawings are done from, mind, photos, life. I can guess at some stuff but can't be completely sure, maybe start labelling the drawings, it's your choice.
February 16th, 2006, 03:07 PM
hi That Fat Kid ,
i failed to see your recent stuff, i m apologize, your sketches are very consistents. i like your variety of SP. I hoppe to see more your stuff soon :)
February 18th, 2006, 02:33 AM
dude, no update in over a week!!!you not dead are you???that would be a major downer. well man, i'm just letting you know that you need to get your ass in gear, and i dont want to hear any excuses, nothing keeps you from drawing.
That fat kid
February 18th, 2006, 05:02 AM
Oh snap, one more guy voted me a three and knocked me down to a 3 star average...................................actually really depressing.....
Zord: Yea, sorry about the hiatus in updates, school's really sucking the inspiration out of me.....and now losing a star really deflated me.....guess I'll have to work harder and earn some more good votes! The installation did suck, my group kept flaking out and leaving me all alone to work on it....thanks for dropping by man!
Some_Guy: thanks! I've been trying to work harder.....turns out we have the same birthday, who knew?
Boogieman: Keep pounding away at the life drawing for that portfolio, that's what the art schools really want to see....the lecture for the installation was, in all essence, here's some nails, cloth, clothespins and a hammer, now make some 3d planes.....thanks for stopping by!
hurricane: thanks, I love having you come by, really makes me want to work!
Archimajor: thanks kistler, I'll definitely start posting more of my finished work....our spring breaks don't line up at all, I get a week off a week after you get back....no poker for us then......anyhow, you really oughta hang around this website more often, you can learn a lot from this community.
Orozc0: thanks man! I actually like design class this semester, the teacher is having us do some crazy things....I really appreciate the crit, I applied it, but there won't be an update this time, maybe next if I remember....
pennington: thanks! design class is out there.....
guggenmaneuver: lol, I can't wait to kick it in the hostel with all those guys sketching, it'll be sweet! And I have no idea what to do with sculpture when its finished, since it is so huge......I just ripped it down after we played with the lights.....and I hope your thumbs fine, lol
blacky: Lol, I have no idea what I learned from the giant installation either, but it was sort of fun to do.....the big drawing I did learn a lot, like how to deal with proportions on a larger scale.....thanks for stopping in!
armando: I'm missing having you regularly in my thread....you not being in here all the time keeping me in check kind of slowed down my updates.....I hope you get out of that exile soon and show us what you learned!!
Shylone_Breath: thanks! variety is evidently a good learning tool....
mitch: yea, I know, I've been meaning to update all week but keep putting off for other homework....I'm a failure....then again, i haven't seen your thread up and about....
February 18th, 2006, 05:53 AM
Just a Tip For Kleaning:
You might want to try "Skull-Funga-Rid," The last time the skull fungi infected my house it totally got rid of them, AND it didn't stain my carpet, or leave messy residue.
Hey, these pages look great man... Glad to see ya using the technique, though i worry about your getting adequate ventilation ... I need ALL brain cells intact so you can bust some imaginative Skull fungi with babe sauce jam out in my sketchbook in montreal.These guys (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/292.jpg) look pretty great, though the residual pencil is somewhat problematic... seems like you could just draw this whole thing out in pen, (working from foreground to back so as not to cause any overlapping type problems...) and then heighten the choicest areas that you select with white.
thanks for the update buddy... i know how busy you are (installing installations)...When i was a student i could hardly ever find the time to do it...so Of course, you understand i think, we need to sniff the flatulations of the fat kraken, but, you know, school comes first and we all know you'll update when you get the chance.
And you really have to wear some pink to the workshop (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/294.jpg).
February 18th, 2006, 10:57 AM
yo tfk, aint been round in awhile. glad to see youre still workin it. and you got a haircut. ;)
on the last page of reddish paper (page 8), the woman in the dress's arm doesnt read well, it looks more like its coming out of her back than attached to her shoulder. possibly because of the perspective of her collarbone and the ruffle. probably shouldve shown more of the opening of the ruffle, then you wouldve been able to show more of the attachment of the arm to the body. also shouldve shown more of the outside (the bony part) where the elbow sticks out of the skin instead of showing the crook of her arm (where the bicep goes into the upper forearm). your picture of the sun/sunflower/windmill, whatever it is, you use nice, confident lines to draw that. contrast that with your figures, the last one in particular (the girl bending over); the figures tend to be 'furry'. try to feather less, itll make the drawings a lot cleaner. check out her ankles sometime too, they look a little...broken. check out some reference for that if you have some time. you tend to draw the upper arm (bicep/tricep area) too small at times, so pay attention to that when youre drawing. hope my crits arent too harsh, but i know you can handle it. workin everyday, youre gonna get there dude, so keep drawin and keep updating; we'll be here. :yayca:
February 18th, 2006, 01:54 PM
nice update man. whats up with the pink paper???its trippy. i do like the one with the skulls though. P.S. i've updated twice in the last 10 days.
February 18th, 2006, 02:56 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/292.jpg - heheheheh cute :P
Good updates, what s the hardnes of the pencil that you use? I d like your pencil drawings to be a bit more contrasty. Figures are coming along, some good studies and poses.
I like the sheet instalation, looks really cool. Thumbs up!
Fooxoo aka Edite
February 18th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Mostly imagination stuff on this update?
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/299.jpg - seated figure lower right: Foreshortening on the arms seems off, making them look too small. Otherwise this is a very nicely drawn figure; the linework is conveying form beautifully.
Flowerskulls(?) are very cool.
Figures in general need some refinement, more practice. Hard to see what construction methods you're using so I can't give you more specific advice at the moment.
Keep up the good work :)
February 18th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Hey fat kid, nice sb you got there. Lot of variety in here. You have a nice sketchy style. I'm diggin that sp of yours. Keep postin bro. :yayca:
February 19th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Hey man, you dropped a bomb on this last update. Very glad to see it! And yes, I agree with Guggen, school's first, updates second. As long as you're sketching, even atleast a little bit. And he made a good point about ventilation, we need your brain cells to have sketch collabs./exploring time in Montreal. But keep it up man! And kill that damn Italian class. Sunday homework due dates? Complete BULL-ISH. Cheers!
February 19th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Hey cool stuff man, looks like you are working hard. Maybe try using a broader value range by using a prismacolor black in conjunction with your graphite. It will give your work a little more punch. Keep it up.
February 19th, 2006, 06:11 PM
like all this work, that class stuff is massive! :D Good drawings and use
of colour, really like them :) I know u said this to me, which i will do,
but i think that you should also do a bit more life too, lol :)
Keep it up !
February 19th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Hey! You never showed me that installation art! Kickin' man! I like it. You draw so much you make feel like such a loser. Keep up the great volume. Don't have much to crit other than I'd like to see you flesh some stuff out more. Seems like your focusing on line lately, ain't bad. Just lookin for a change. Keep at it. We'll get you leveled up in no time! PEACE!
February 19th, 2006, 06:46 PM
The red and white pen(?) has an interesting look. Whatever happened to the bargue drawing, or whatever it's called? I might have missed that update, I'll have to check the earlier pages later. Thanks for the motivation, I'll have to show improvement for all the time I've missed.
February 20th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Hello there. As always thanks for visiting my thread. I could be wrong here but I get a feeling that you've also been a bit lazy with your sketchbook. I think I was drawing too much a while ago a when I wasn't drawing I was thinking about drawing. It got me in a state where I didn't enjoy it that much anymore. But that's just stupid old me. Good luck with that huge drawing of yours. Would like to see your progress with that one.
That fat kid
February 20th, 2006, 03:33 AM
guggenmaneuver: yea, I get a bit queasy from the fumes, but lowered intelligence has never been a problem for me. I oughta bring an entire sketchbook completely washed, just so we have a good source of fuel if we need heat. Pink shall be worn, and the flatulations shall be rampant! especially if I go to dinner with Zebzfree, evidently he enjoys his mexican food....
purb36: Thanks, no crit is too harsh, since a critique is there to help. I see exactly what you mean in all regards, my line work is a source of constant dismay, and anatomy is the bane of all novice artists. come back soon and critique to your heart's content!
mitch: thanks, the pink paper is actually an alcohol/ink wash using brown ink to tone my sketchbook pages so I can use white in an average sketchbook....pfft, you oughta update even more often, you tool!
fooxoo: thanks. I'll work on contrast, appreciate the crit.
max1975: Yea, pretty much all imaginative stuff, finally trying to put the back to the basics stuff to use.....I drew almost exclusively from life for a long time......gotta balance it and do half and half. I actually don't really use a construction method, I just lay down the lines where they 'feel' right, lol. I probably oughta figure out a method and use it, eh? I really wish I had a figure drawing class so I could work on full figures nudes from life....ah well.....the internet oughta suffice.
gmags: thanks! btw, happy birthday!
Zord: pfftt....brain cells are overrated.....seems like everyone around my campus is killing them as fast as they can buy the booze.....besides, if I wander around completely aimlessly, montreal will be that much more interesting....thanks!
DerMidlet: thanks for the advice, my stuff could use a bigger value range.
Qxzi: thanks, yea, I do need to hit the life drawing hard, but I'm on this kick of trying to draw from imagination...haven't done too much of that....I'll still work from life though!
ZebzFree: whaddya mean, never showed you? its been posted for awhile you slacker! with all those posts you shoulda wandered in here sooner! lol, I kid. Ironically, I did a fairly fleshed out color drawing last night, so cheers to the advice! thanks man!
armando: thanks, its always a good day when you come back in here. When you going to update? I keep checking and I keep getting disappointed. That barque got lost to the difficulty of college, I had to manage my time, and, to my dismay, that extremely difficult thing got postponed. I still FULLY intended to do one, it'll just have to wait until spring break. I'll be watching for that update!
EDIT, Placeboast: Lol, I was in the process of updating when you posted. Yea, I fell off the wagon a couple of times and had breaks between updates, though I was still drawing. Its all right to not draw, live life and enjoy. That's all the drawings end up being, a reflection of experiences. Thanks man!
and all the further I'm probably going to take the big drawing....not much work, sorry guys.....i failed :dad:
February 20th, 2006, 08:10 AM
Dude that (pastel?) portrait is awesome! I mean really really good. Who is it? And is he holding a gun? If you want a crit maybe you should take a look at the values in his eyes the area between his right eye (our left) and his right eyebrow. Might be a little flat? Nothing that bothers me, just wanted to give something other than asspat... About the xl sp, you get props for even attempting something like that.
February 20th, 2006, 11:11 AM
hey fatty- that portrait is really nice... The greenish touch makes it a little more vivid, gotta say that it seems like he has a lot of hair and rather large forehead.. but im not sure. Also- are you going to render the rest of it? If not I think you should at least emphasize the lines of his shoulders and neck a little more.
The xxl sp is interesting as well- but im wondering about the pose.. It doesnt seem too natural to me. Did you put your weight on your left arm? The triceps and your shoulders dont support that idea but its the only way i could explain it to myself..
well anyways .. keep goin
February 20th, 2006, 03:34 PM
hey man. the big drawing of you is coming along pretty nicely, but your legs look MASSIVE, and your foot is bigger than your head, but the shading is done really well on it. the newest conte is looking really nice(is it ogre???) you did a great job with the shadows around the mouth and around the eyes. i'm looking forward to seeing the finished product. keep it up man.
February 20th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Fats, staying up late late into the night working on a piece is a delight. And we have mastered this delicacy... YES! And don't worry about "failing." We seem to have the tendency to be discouraged with our work, but you push me forward so I'll push you as well. Just gotta do it. Cheers, friend.
February 20th, 2006, 05:30 PM
Hey Holt. We got DSL Friday. I'm psyched. Using the internet is now a practical thing. Nicely done on the OGRE portrait. Are you going to do more to the bottom? Is it pastel or conte? Now, be honest, how much did you enjoy constructing that sculpture?
February 20th, 2006, 05:50 PM
hey that pastel IS awesome! the hair is a bit splotchy. it could use some hard dark umm lines? (hard to explain) so you can see the under hair?... haha wow my head isn't working right now. hope you understand.
thanks a ton for the tut i'll see what i can do about it maybe you could send it over aim or something or i could find the actual post. later
February 20th, 2006, 06:35 PM
hey man, what i really like is ur perseverence. u will be high.
my comments would concern some aspects of your style, you should be a little more patient when drawing, like u did with that coloured portrait. try to keep some construction in mind... also (this is a little subjective) i believe ur sketches would look alot better if done with a little sharper pencils. thin lines are good lines. i also like those white lines :)
keep it up man, ur raising.
February 22nd, 2006, 09:01 AM
That Latest one of yours looks really good. But is there something funny on his right side of his head. The hair seems not to come as far as it should. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
February 22nd, 2006, 06:04 PM
I like what you're doing with color on the last update...red tones are a very good choice, with quirky hints of green, and it's all bringing out the form.
February 22nd, 2006, 06:46 PM
Wow, great improvements going on here! Your lines are more confident and sketches come more consistent, greater definitions on details. Glad to see people like you. Your effort is admirable.
That fat kid
February 23rd, 2006, 03:22 AM
Boogieman: thanks man, yea, making things look round from photo ref is tough....Its my buddy Ogre, and he's holding a fake gun....
krakel: Thanks, I was going for the pose of the dying gaul by my muscle definition is a lacking...I think the reason that weight doesn't look supported is because I didn't ground the figure to the plane....thanks for the crit though!
mitch: thanks man! Yea, the proporitions got all whacky since the darned thing is so big....yea, its ogre, in a all his glory!
Zord: thanks johnny! late night is fun until the next day at class....when I fall asleep......anyhow, thanks for the support!
Sedig: thanks, looking forward to you updating more in your sketchbook! The installation was almost fun to install, except the few times I smashed a finger with the darned hammer.....and I'll get to the bottom eventually, in conte!
pennington: thanks, I know exactly what you mean, but I hate using black on portraits, too distracting and kills the colors......Yea, just hop into zebzfree's thread, it should be in there.....I'll add you on AIM anyway!
_^SlayeR^_: thanks! I'll see if I can keep my pencil a bit sharper for cleaner lines...thanks for all the advice!
Placeboast: thanks, yea, I know exactly what you mean....I fixed the head, but no update on it.....
small update, just for the sake of updating.....armando might be mad for the single image though.....
white conte on black paper from photo ref I took.....class assignment!
February 23rd, 2006, 03:34 AM
Great updates, Andrew. That white conte is freakin' sharp!! It looks like a Xerox! Is that Michael Meyers! Kick ass!! It really looks clean from a distance. Love it! And that color one! Sheeeeiiiit! That's gold, man! I love all those patches of color. Just contine to try your best to think about value in the color as well. It could use some darks and popage (I made that word up lol) in a few areas. Good to see you gettin' shit done. I need to turn of my PC for a night and actually work. I'm a slacker. You know it. Keep bringin' the pain, Fatty.
February 23rd, 2006, 03:36 AM
that last class stdy looks real good man. really like your book, with the different projects youre putting up.
keep it coming!
February 23rd, 2006, 03:41 AM
hey thanks for the encouragement. i wanna call you barnabas from now on[means encouragement]. hey i really like the girl on page 51 and the forshortenedduud and the angel, well lets just say i like the whole page, lol.
i have to agree with what somebody said about sharp pencils. oh and somebody told me that too and a way to keep your strokes from getting too dark by reworking them was to practice hands. i haven't seen too many hands on here. and also some contours helped me a lot.
 woops held on to my words too long. your newest one is awesome! :teeth:
February 23rd, 2006, 05:45 AM
Hey, man! Thanks for the kind words.... your stuff has come a long way with that recent Conte piece... any way we can get a detail of it?
Good luck, man...
That fat kid
February 24th, 2006, 04:04 PM
Zebzfree: The pain shall be brought, and the poppage shall be implemented! thanks!
tensai: thanks! they shall be continued to be brought!
pennington: my favorite dude from socal! Yea, sharp pencils can really help when working on line, and a duller pencil can be more useful for shading and rendering.....so I'll keep them sharp for the initial drawing....and hand studies will be done presently! thanks!
IanE: thanks! a few kind words can't be underestimated.....no detail for the conte, probably monday when we crit them....
February 24th, 2006, 04:26 PM
omg, that's (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/307.jpg) real awesome. Nice updates and cool lightstudies as in this (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/318.jpg) one.
figures on last one came out interesting and funny. Dig em.
Keep up the crazy pace.
February 24th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Agreed, your work with conte is good.
February 24th, 2006, 05:27 PM
Kickin the cool rendered guy.
:D.. think u gotta work more on ur fast gestures. To get the basic lines of a pose , in the least time, then goin over it, and givin more details :)
That conte work of urs, from ref, class assign,etn one, is lookin damn good. HATE U AND UR ASSIGNMENTS AND UR SKOOL, and uR EASELS >__<
Kickin, Keep pluging
February 24th, 2006, 11:33 PM
Nice updates...imagination stuff is showing improvement...digging the figures here: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/315.jpg and you did a really nice job with this: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/307.jpg
February 25th, 2006, 05:07 PM
what the :O http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/307.jpg, how realistic and good is that:O Looks so dramatic! Good update as well! I bet you will get a good mark for the class assignment thing!
February 25th, 2006, 05:19 PM
the sketches are looking good man but i think you need to challenge yourself more. i also really like the conte on black paper but i'd like to see it more up close(did you get the ones around it in the frame on purpose??) keep it up man. P.S. the murals are coming along nicely, i think you will be impressed when you come back. and also, there is a college in lake forest or something that is despanding so teh art dept. is going to get a crapload of new stuff!!!i'm psyched!! see you later.
February 27th, 2006, 12:04 AM
HEY HOLT. That white on black conte drawing blows me away. SWEET. It almost looks like the person is underwater. It is an excellent effect. Those sketchbook pages are great too. Mr. R has a suggestion for you: go look at some Wes9000 pages, then do a few sketchbook pages like that, with the entire page being a composition, everything fitting together. Mr. R thinks it would be really neat, and so do I. I tried it, and when I get ahold of a scanner I'll show how it turned out...
By the way:..when is spring break for you? And is that italian on the sketchbook page numbered page 57?
February 27th, 2006, 12:07 AM
Wow, man! Nice work. That conte drawing is amazing. Really. I love it. Everything is looking great...you can really see a progression...especially when you have taken as much time off as I have. =]
February 27th, 2006, 01:38 AM
great stuff man! I especially like your conte drawings and that purple water color painting.
February 27th, 2006, 04:51 AM
yeah nice figures. all i gotta say is fencing(the sword kind) has the coolest poses for gesture drawing. i looked em up in google image. very cool
February 27th, 2006, 05:17 AM
i second everybody's opinion on that conte drawing, very powerful piece! no crits, just request... more of those conte drawings! your sketches are awesome as always.
March 1st, 2006, 12:41 PM
man you are really cutting back on the updates, its making me antsy for the next one. i'm loking forward to it.
March 1st, 2006, 12:49 PM
That white conte on black paper is SWEET. The student on your right also pulled something cool XD.
March 1st, 2006, 12:50 PM
thats some good daily updates !! ;)
we're waiting here man !
give us some sugar :P
March 1st, 2006, 04:07 PM
That Keen Fluke–
Sorry it's been a little bit since i've dropped by your booky book here... Gotta say that this white on black drawing is really looking impressive. This portrait (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/305.jpg) is looking good, love that paper... creates a nice ground upon which to work. On this one (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/313.jpg) and this... (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/314.jpg) I kind of wish that you could tighten up the technique a little, maybe bust out some darks and harden up the edges that should be hard... will make such quick sketches look much better. And I'm glad to see the Wardrobe malfunction zombie strutting here... very entrailresting (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/319.jpg)
keep it up fiend, we're gonna be sketching together soon!
March 1st, 2006, 04:47 PM
the conte drawing really shines out in your recent posts. the time you prolly spent on that really was worth it. i havent been on ca for quite some time but its nice to see that you keep on pushing, man! i guess it would also be helpful to work on compositions along the drawing-part. how form/ shapes black/whites relate to each other. besides that its wonderful to see your progress!
March 3rd, 2006, 02:11 AM
Dude, your stuff is looking awesome. I wanna see it up close next time your home...Im bringing my stuff home b/c I have spring break from the 3rd-12...if your home during that time, we'll meet up and stuff...we started color in my drawing class here...arch. design is starting to get amazing...i love it...later man..
March 3rd, 2006, 03:26 AM
The white conte on black paper is very nice.
Neat sketchbook updates. Lots of stuff. Keeo doodlin!
That fat kid
March 4th, 2006, 07:22 PM
HEROIC: thanks, actually, no one's told me to work on my gestures before....guess its time to do some quick life drawing, eh? thanks!
mitch: arrgg....pressing myself, eh? dang, you're on to me......yea, i intentionally did get the other 2 in the picture...maybe I'll get a shot of the 'good ones' in the hallway if I remember.....I can't wait to see those murals when I get back....or see what kind of supplies you got from that art place....keep drawing, and thanks!
Sedig: thanks.....I'll go ahead and try a whole composition of a page....I've tried before and its tough, I dunno how that guy thinks like that.....anyhow, my spring break is the 18-24, so I imagine i'll wander into the art room sometime that week....you best have something to show me, and a little less ego to show for it......thanks!
van: HEY! finally, missed having you in my sketchbook...thanks for the kind words....I hope you keep your updates regular!
ParkerD: thanks! you always crack me up in the lounge and other threads, and your website looks great!
pennington: thanks for the suggestion, I'll google some fencing stuff!
spicy meatballs: thanks! all right, I promise to do more conte drawings, I need to anyhow, thanks again!
mitch: hope this one didn't disappoint....
Pesmerga:thanks! yea, that's a girl's named Karen, she's not bad, but she lacks work ethic.
hurricane: I appreciate the sarcasm, my updates are slacking off, I'll pick it up! thanks!
guggenmaneuver: thanks for the crits, missed having your harassments in here! get on AIM more often!
Pierre: thanks! can you give me some more specifics on where to look to study composition? I want to work on it, and I've asked some teachers
archimajor: our breaks don't overlap at all....thanks man, post some stuff here or something!
March 6th, 2006, 03:22 AM
hey, your scanner has gone all blue on us. That conte drawing is looking ridiculously good. Would like to see a better photo of that. Otherwise it seems that you are drawing with fire under your ass (not taking enough time) and it seems to affect your drawings a bit. I'd really love to see more of them "finished" drawings of yours. See you.
March 6th, 2006, 11:23 AM
man your drawings from life are getting better and better...keep em coming. i like those pen sketches in the last update. the pen keeps you away from erasing and i am not feeling to afraid of doing a wrong line. ;)
March 6th, 2006, 12:14 PM
harrassment eh? I'll give you some "SeXy" harrassment: nice work, though try to keep this kind of stuff more monochromatic unless you are going to proceed with a very definite color scheme--> not trying to be a bossy bitchface, but the warm and cool grey markers work really well if you are doing something that is more or less continuous tone on colored paper.
cheeeeeeers buddy, i've missed chattin with you as well :groupie2:
March 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM
holt- nice job on these new sketchings. The blue paper is producing an interesting effect. The upper left face on the topmost page is great. I really like the expression. Its good that you are trying new things. I need to do more of that. I'm really digging the "skull fungus" in color. I can't really figure out your color choince, but it looks interesting. Keep it up.
March 6th, 2006, 04:07 PM
good update, like the blue :D No crit, just keep it up!
March 6th, 2006, 05:30 PM
You drawin' bare asses like you ain't got the time fo' no bull-ish, watch this, fat kid, destroy this, sketchpage. That rhyme's for you man, totally. But keep busting out those pages like donuts out of the krispy kreme factory; the imagination can be tough to work from, especially if you don't do it much. You just have to push through the barrier, like a submarine failure. 8)
That fat kid
March 7th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Placeboast: you're absolutely right, I am drawing too fast, others have said it, but I guess I need to work on listening too....here's another conte drawing.....no detail of the last one, I'll nab that tomorrrow morning...thanks!
OleOlsen: arrgg.....the pen is frustrating, but you're right, it does improve that good old line quality, thanks for stopping in!
guggenmaneuver: good advice from a crazy atlanta dude....always appreciated....I actually just pick arbitrary colors that I have on hand and apply them where they 'feel' right, which is why the colors are so hard to understand...thanks! I'll start actually using my markers, eh?
Sedig: thanks! experiment and sketch, everyday....does the body good...
Zord: Thanks! and....what?
class assignment, conte on black paper....oh man! the picture sucks, all that strange looking glare isn't actually there.....I'll have to take another picture soon....see if you can see it better on the crit board
crit board shots, some pretty decent stuff
in class hand studies, 18x24, and some lovely shots of my feet
March 7th, 2006, 05:05 AM
Hey, man! Been a while since I was in here... You're gettng some very nice results here! I'm impressed! Diggin on the white contè on black paper.. And the critboard looks cool :) I like number three from the right in this (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/330.jpg) picture.
Good stuff, man!
March 7th, 2006, 05:08 AM
I see some kickass works here since my last visit. Keep us entratrained.
March 7th, 2006, 10:34 AM
yours and the guy above yours with the wes9000 style multiple faces going on are best... mean that. big studies of hands good.
crazy atlanta dude signing off.
March 7th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Nice color glow on the last one. Is that a self portrait? It's nice to see reference stuff mixed with the imaginative stuff in your sketchbook. Keep rockin' out the pages bra'!
March 7th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Kickass conte work! Your colour and value development is definitely the strongest in the group, love the subtle additions of warmth.
Hand drawing on the left is very strong, good form, value and anatomy throughout. You've started to push the darks some, could be done even more i think.
That fat kid
March 8th, 2006, 03:40 AM
dCepT: thanks! its great having you stop by!
T-Raktor: thanks! I'm trying!
guggenmaneuver: thanks, you crazy atlantan....I'm digging your first digital, btw...
SprayNation: thanks! and no, its no a self portrait....go back a few pages to see a huge number of them.....rock on!
SirGreenSock: thanks! Love having you drop by...thanks for kind word, I'll definitely keep pushing the darks...they scare me!
From Imagination....cropped because of scanner size....lost the skyline and the left foot and right side of the mug....
and....just for comparison....here's my 'from imagination' from about 5 months ago.....
March 8th, 2006, 01:06 PM
That's some pretty nice improvement :) It's almost 6 month since I started seriously drawing, I should post one of those comparising shots as well. For your newest piece, and your pencil stuff in general, I think you should try and push the contrast more. The values in your conte stuff are great (really fucking great, specially the white one on black paper) but in your pencil renders it feels like it's mostly midtone. I'm not good with this myself, just saying you might want to think about it. Look at Wes' sb stuff for inspiration maybe, just pencil but real sweet contrast.
March 9th, 2006, 01:48 AM
dude! wicked sweet updates! love the conte and the large size of everything. bet that really helps with smaller stuff too. all i have to say is what boogieman said. and i'm gonna take his advice myself haha.
That fat kid
March 9th, 2006, 01:49 AM
Boogieman: hey thanks man! Its crazy what happens when a person doubles or triples the time they draw...improvement abound, eh? and I take it you haven't noticed the link to Wes's sketchbook in my signature, eh? I usually go through there once a day and try to figure out how the guy thinks....let alone milks an HB for all that its worth...but I appreciate the crit, and I did pump the darks and erase some lights after you mentioned it, but sadly, no update....thanks again!
edit: pennington: thanks! lol, posting in here while I'm trying to update, throwing me off! yea, contrast has been my worst enemy in the pencil department, guess I'll have to face my nemesis, eh? you too!
.....well....that was a short reply session....guess I'll have to spam everyone's sketchbooks with critiques and piss them off so they come in here, lol.....btw, daily sketchbook again! 3 in a row!
anyhow, drawing class, banana drawings and gestures.....some 5-10 seconds, some up to a half hour.....compressed charcoal on 18x24 inch newsprint....stuff bunches up if you're not careful....oh yea, the guy in the blue shirt in the background is my drawing professor, I can hardly keep a straight face when he's not talking about drawing.....
March 9th, 2006, 03:04 AM
I dig that last banana- fat naked guy too. The only thing that i see that seems to be missing is a good, varied contour line in some of these drawings. Otherwise, keep up the good work.
March 9th, 2006, 03:54 AM
dang it i tried to post and then go to the advanced reply but there were "no suitable nodes available to serve my request." cheese anyway those are some killer bananas!
March 9th, 2006, 10:32 AM
hey man, sweet couple of updates!! your conte is looking good but i'm going to need to see it when your done. the hands are also very nice, all of the fingers look like they are right where they are suppose to be. Its also great to see some finished work. the one you did from imagination of the dude chillin with the monkey is excellent. the gestrues of the bananas that you did in class are really neat, i really enjoy seeing your class assignments. keep it up man!! ps-you need to start getting to bed earlier, i'm seeing posts form you at like 2 in the morning(classic college sleep schedule) see you.
March 9th, 2006, 12:15 PM
ha ha ha tfk, i had no idea that you had hidden the wes9000 sb link into yr signature. I do love me some easter eggs.
sweet luuking bananas dude, got to love that kind of charcoal study ... rendered so gracefully and deftly after you've spent so much time with the figure it doesn't seem as challenging to draw fruit from life. Anyhow, great work... this booger (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/333.jpg) is looking really nice! great level of improvement ... Isn't it great to look backon your work from the past and see the improvement! You get a big ass: FUCK YEAH & an AMEN from the choir.
March 9th, 2006, 05:14 PM
dude, love your conte on black paper and your bananas, the last one is my favorite, keep it up yo!
March 10th, 2006, 08:29 PM
Yee uh man, cool stuff here. That conte stuff is really striking. I think working big suits you. You've got a lot of expression in those 'nanners, it's hard to bring expression into still lifes. Nice work man.
March 11th, 2006, 08:41 AM
bananas!! i like the last set of bananas the best! and those in class conte assignments kick ass keep it skillin
March 11th, 2006, 11:17 AM
So your art teacher makes you go all gay in the face. Superb. Bananas looking um... good i guess. Not a big fan of bananas 'cause last time I ate one i wen't straight to hospital and spent almost a week in those lovely pyjamas. My pacreas said "poop". That blue conte dude is lookig mighty fine. The eye region looks almost photorealistic. Job well done my friend.
March 12th, 2006, 12:21 AM
Ah, banana drawings. Thanks for sharing the fruits of your labor..... bad joke. Sorry.
The line gesture in those sketches are really awesome man. Great confidence with such short time constraints.
Looking at the crit board shots from an earalier update with your conte on black paper in comparison, you've got one of the strongest pieces overall. Really like the lost edges in the eye socket and the ambient lighting throughout.
Talk to you later!
March 12th, 2006, 02:07 AM
The conte or chalk(Is there a difference?) on #653, especially in the first sketchy pic, now that's hifey(Apparantly "hifey" is going to be the new fashionable hiphop word, I guess it means good). Imagination drawing with that monkey looks real good too. Thanks for making me feel important by mentioning me in that one post.
March 14th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Hey Andrew, i'm totally adding to this list of replies for you to reply back to; know you love it. Haha. But dropping some love per the request, yes. I'm digging the banana's, the last few look the best; i'm guessing those were spent with the most time? And digging the imagination shiz too, they can get tough but we gotta just do it. DO IT DO IT DO IT. I've been looking through various stores with their pre-made presentable portfolio's, AKA 'advanced folder mechanisms', and i'm not too sure what we should put in them. All of the ones I looked at have about 15 pages in them, and that's quite a bit of work for us n0obZ. But uh, yea, that's love for you man. Enjoy it, because it [won't] will be your last! JOKING. Cheers dude, with Mountain DewD! GET IT?! Let me spell it out, "D-E-W-D."
That fat kid
March 14th, 2006, 03:00 AM
sith: thanks man, fat naked guy is old school....and I see what you mean about the contour line, it'd really add some depth, thanks for the crit!
pennington: thanks! and I have no idea what a suitable node is....
mitch: thanks! got some more in class stuff for you...hope it don't get deleted due to the 'nudity'.....ask guggenmaneuver about it....and see you soon!
guggenmaneuver: there's a few more easter eggs chilling down there.....about 5, and you might get a kick out of them.....I hope I don't get in the same boat as you with photobucket.....lord knows they don't have taste....and you're totally right, fruit is way easier than the figures....thanks!
Andy P: thanks!
Placeboast: well...when you put it like that, my humor is kind of cramped....
lol, that hospital story shouldn't be so funny.....thanks!
Dutton: thanks! my teacher gives us some powerful different assignments....I really get a kick out of them.....but sometimes its wasted on the unmotivated....hope to see those color charts soon....or whenever they get done....
armando: thanks for always coming back...I hope you get a chance to update soon.....the main difference between conte and chalk is price....lol
anyway, conte is like pastel or something, its got a really nice consistency and texture that I really enjoy....and you are important, you've stuck with me since the beginning, my main source of encouragement!
Zord: awesome...a nother long response....yup, the last few nanner's took the longest....and 15 pieces for a portfolio ought to be a minimum, not a maximum.....it takes diversity and work ethic to make it....and i get it, mountain dewd, har har.....DOOM!!!
figure drawing.....so the model was extremely hot....took me completely off gaurd.....I had been expecting an out of shape 50 year old man, and this little pierced chick hopped up there.....anyhow, these are the later ones, the class did about 30-40 drawings, built up from drawings.....from 20 seconds to 20 minutes......i'm only posting the longer ones since I don't have that much battery left in my camera....these are 18x24 on newsprint with compressed charcoal...
March 14th, 2006, 03:58 AM
Andrew, just wanted to say that the 4th figure from the bottom seems to be the strongest of the bunch. There aren't too many distracting lines and the value you put on the right arm is nice. The direction you're heading is the right one, just keep it going man. I'll push you and you'll push me. 8-)
March 14th, 2006, 05:11 AM
So she was hot eh? Why didn't you take a picture of her. I've never had a hot model. I dread the day I do though, it'll be hard as hell to concentrate. Anyway I've got some stuff ready to post up, might do it today, but damn it I told TGping I would post some robots and I have no idea how to draw those but what the hell. Next time write what the times were for the poses. Specific bones are useful for fixing the pose, making it look right, for example the spine of the scapula and the olecranon. I'm not noticing those on the back poses.
The olecranon is also important in distinguishing an animal arm from a human arm. The way this elbow points backwards is wrong for a human.
March 14th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Good figure studies, this (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/holycrap1/348.jpg) one is definitely the strongest.
Watch your lines and curves, you're using too many of the former and not being confident enough about the latter. Youre going over the same spots too many times to figure out the curve. Simply redrawing the line straight on top wont help much. A good exercsise is to watch the curves, whether theyre convex or concave, and first build them up out of straight lines. Get the angles right first, then you'll only need to go over it once to smooth it out a bit.
March 14th, 2006, 11:38 AM
yay man, some really cool new stuff goin on here. these figure drawings from life remind me a lot on...ahem....mine, lol :D Some of them could use cleaner lines! I really dig these bananas, they look pretty cool!!
Kep em coming dude!!
March 14th, 2006, 08:17 PM
hey man, the charcoals look great, very well done. nice job on the form and teh one where teh girl is sitting looks really good. keep them comming. peace.
March 17th, 2006, 11:20 PM
I thought this was daily.False advertising:nohope:
March 17th, 2006, 11:38 PM
I see you gotten to life drawing. Man, I wish my school had life drawing durning the spring semster. I really like the job you did on them. Keep up the good work that fat kid.
March 18th, 2006, 04:40 AM
nice stuff fat kid. you really have made loads of progress since the first post.
March 18th, 2006, 02:50 PM
I really like the drawing with conte on black paper, neat!
Those bananas look like fun!
Keep posting! :D
March 18th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Hey, TFK, been out of it for a while, sorry for the lack of comments.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/holycrap2/329.jpg is awesome, and your last imagination drawing is really well done. Life drawings are cool too but there's some odd-looking chunkiness to a lot of the ankles, you might want to study that area some more.
March 19th, 2006, 03:15 AM
Nice update kid :)
keep up the good work..i like that white conte on black paper and those bananas too :)
March 19th, 2006, 03:40 AM
yo dude, what up?
life drawings...not bad. i think the legs in most of them could use some more form, as a lot of them look the same width from hip to ankle. also, try to use line width to highlight either areas of light and dark, or to show balance and how the model has her weight shifted in the pose. bananas look good enough to eat. in fact, i may have to get me some...
March 19th, 2006, 06:23 AM
awesome bananas! That last figure is pretty strong as well. I'm always impressed when I come in here fat kid.
March 20th, 2006, 01:54 AM
hey i missed these figures last time i checked your thread. good stuff. was it your first time? eh, eh! my only advice is to try and make a point on the charcoal and use the thinest part of it for the contour and to give weight change the direction of you hand and also observe your subject for a few seconds memorizing things before going to the board. uh i forgot what else but i like them a lot they show good form. talk atcha later.
March 20th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Wow, this place sure has grown. Looks like you are getting all kinds of crits. I haven't drawn from a model in AGES so I figure I can't bitch about how you are doing (not that I have anything to say anyway); you should do some more concept work, I'd like to see how all of this marvelous "body" work translates to drawing the unseen.
March 21st, 2006, 11:21 PM
Good job man. Overall good work, I am having problems viewing your work. I saw the first page there. From those drawings I got a great gestural sense. I felt the life and emotion in the drawings. However some of the anatomy is off a little if you meant to do that i don't know. But however head this warning. When doing life drawing you tend to stretch or squash the figure. This may have been purposely done to acheive a certain look but if any of them were done from models you need to work on it. What you can do is if you are stretching them and making them too tall and lanky then purposely squash them when your drawing, or the otehr way around. Overall good work and maybe the pics might load another time so i can critique more. Hows art at Illinois? Anyways get back to me or whatever or feel free to email me pics or anything. Cya later
March 22nd, 2006, 07:08 PM
Dude your improvement from the first page to those nanners is awesome. I really do dig your sketchy style with the charcoal.
March 24th, 2006, 02:34 PM
good pics of the still lifes and figures. Some of those class stuff i really like, and yours too of course! :D. How about some creatures from you, or some stuff out of your head? Oh and before i forget, i really appreciate you sticking up for me, and im not just saying that, thanks! And thanks to the other people too:P. But thanks, means alot, and you did it twice in my sb! I think my sb is cursed or something :P :D
Thanks again, Qxzi 8)
March 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM
Quite nice for an imagination pic (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/333.jpg).
Dig the stuff you've been doing at class a lot too. Don't agree with you saying your facepicture would suck. And some of the bananas are real sweet too. Lifedrwings need some more attention right now though.
March 25th, 2006, 02:27 AM
hope spring break is going good! can't wait to hear from you again. anyways.
That fat kid
March 29th, 2006, 03:36 AM
Here's the replies, as previously promised....man, am I behind on returning the favor to people's sketchbooks....AND GIVE MORE LOVE TO MITCH!!
armando: thanks for the advice, although I have no idea what an olecranon is....and its no where near as stressful drawing a hot chick as you think it might be, for me at least. I sort of disengage my humanity while i'm drawing and then there's no libido to interfere....and I know what you mean about drawing the robots, I make promises, such as that Bargue, but then life kind of gets in the way. anyhow, i'll return the favor soon!
SirGreenSock: thanks for the advice about the curves and line qualitry in general....i tend to point it out in other people's work because its so weak in mine....i'll try and work on developing the curves through angles.
Gloominati: thanks! yea, line work kills me.....thanks again!
armando (again): arrgg.....GTA: San Andreas is way too much fun...
max1975: thanks man, don't sweat not posting much, I've been slacking off hardcore.....I have like 15 or twenty windows open that I mean to post crits in, but then I just end up looking through them without posting.....I'll keep working on anatomy, thanks again!
purb36: thanks! darned lineweight....I know what I want it to show, but i mess up and mess up and then i just get frustrated and start a new drawing....thanks for keeping me in check though....
sabe2003: thanks! glad to have you coming back!
pennington: thanks man....good point about the point....ever used charkole brand compressed charkole? stuff is messy as all get out, and it turns into a messy blob...i'll try and sand her down next time though, thanks again!
masterpug: thanks! I've been throwing down imagination work, but its frustrating.....thanks for always coming back!
JacktheRipper97: thanks for the crit....it is a beginners mistake to distort the figure, and you definitely called me out on it...I definitely don't do it on purpose, and my problem keeps varying so its hard to correct, i just need to work harder.....Art here isn't too bad, but I'm at a University so there aren't too many hardcore people hanging around....BTW, when are tou going to throw down some artwork for C&C...thanks again!
unknown_epiphany: thanks man! you're the first NOT to bash my linework, lol....glad you like it, but I need to be able to do it without the sketchy feeling too, thanks again!
Qxzi: thanks, and you're welcome. Critique is hard, it takes a certain level of maturity to get your points across about what people need to work on without dominating the person's self esteem....it takes practice, and that's what's wonderful about this site....and I'll always stick up for you, if the situation calls for it....don't forget to put the critics to shame by improving all the time!
blacky: thanks! and I said the picture sucked as in the PHOTO OF the picture sucked, i sort of liked that one....but thanks for disagreeing with me! I think I'm just apprehensive of the figure and make up the difficult parts instead of actually drawing what I see when I life draw...thanks for the crit though!
pennington (again): yea, spring break sucked....but its good to know you miss my stuff!
This is almost as bigt as one of SirGreenSock's updates....
That fat kid
March 29th, 2006, 03:37 AM
More update, turns out a post can only have 30 images.....dang it...
March 29th, 2006, 03:48 AM
Went through your sketchbook...great progress...very inspiring...! Keep on going...
March 29th, 2006, 09:31 AM
Damn man, just yesterday I was wonderin how nice it would be for good ol' fatty to update, and then BAM like getting hit by an ice cream truck.
Huge big awesome update! Great sketchbook work, your faces especially have been improving tremendously! Looks like the figure drawing helps, too, it all looks good!
Happy to see some still-life mixed in, the wallet and candles look awesome!
Digging the life drawings, only crit I have is to watch the distribution of weight in the pose, you seem to skip over the weight of the legs. This (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/383.jpg) one does it perfectly though!
Haha yeah the 30 image limit is an enormous annoyance for dumps, eh? Its the main discouragement for me to not let my work pile up and update more often.
March 30th, 2006, 11:03 AM
hey man, sweet update. the faces all look great and model is really well done. I'd listen to what greensock says on the distribution of weight though. The class stuff is looking very nice, your form is looking great. keep it up man. Keep it coming man.
And yeah, i'm kind of starting to get pissed that nobody is posting in my thread even though i post in theirs, the forums dont work that way. but whatever, i'll get over it. see you tomorrow man.
March 30th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Yo man, love the conte work, the lifedrawing looking good aswell.
March 30th, 2006, 11:24 AM
your banana drawings have a line confidence that is lacking in your figure drawings, which are sketchy and look confused. try to use fewer and longer strokes, look for the essential line that defines the form. it may be that drawing a person makes you want to draw a person and drawing a banana you start to draw shapes, stick to the shapes and you will see a person form that is defined by confident strokes and not chicken scratch.
good work man, keep on keeping on.
March 30th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Now that's what I call an update! Dang, man, that's huge! I love all the hard work you're putting into your stuff. You can tell you're really trying to keep at it and learn as much as you possibly can. I still wish I could see s'more quality works in here tho. You're slammin' these all down pretty fast it seems and you know that's not what I'm lookin' for from you anymore! I want some love makin' sketches! lol Take some time and think about your lines and strokes as you apply them to the form. In that still life you seem to be thinkin'a bit more but I still think it's too rushed looking. Calm down! Heh. Don't be afraid to really get in there with the contrast on your imagination pieces. Maybe I could help you understand some of that better when you come in to visit next weekend. It took my instructor taking my sketchbook out of my hand and drawing over my drawing to show me what I was doing wrong and it really has helped me a lot. So I'll see I can't get it across to you.
As far as your figures go, I realize these are prolly done purty quickly. My advice is to study anatomy. I took one anatomy drawing class and my stuff improved a crap load as a result of doing it. You just sort of start memorizing areas and they begin to come a live on your drawings. We all need to strengthen this area too. Also, don't stop thinking about the three dimensional shapes within the figure. Simplify and try to be more concrete. Some of your sketches just seem sort of "sketchy" or "scratchy" if you catch me. Keep pushin' thru, man. You'll be there in no time! MTL that is! Just kidding. Should be great. See ya next weekend.
March 30th, 2006, 05:03 PM
frigging EPIC! It's amazing how much work you are getting done. True. It is like a green sock post--Except as anyone who looks at his sketchbook will know, there's that whole annoying Canadian accent that you HAVE TO DEAL WITH. yeah, it's funny; but in a way you know that i'm not kidding.
Holy crap you've been busy. thanks for busting it all out on us, it makes for a nicer presentation and allows us to see all of your stuggles and avoid just spreadin the love which might not help you as much. "Gearing up for Montreal," eh? God, there's a thunderstorm in my brain called montreal, and from what i've been hearing apparently the sun shines (http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f71/0c2/f710c2a2-5f2f-458c-b7ab-c2f5c00de9f0) in a different color there. or is it lack of a color? Whichever, i'm feeling the pre-high and am totally stoked and am trying to prepare.
so, I'm glad you're off of spring break and that you stayed busy ... hopefully we can squeeze in a doom roundtable really soon so i can here some more of your sinister, sinister ONE-LINERS that cut right to the jugular. about the art:
ink expirements?!?!?! :groupie2::groupie2::groupie2: i love it, but demand more, NOW! and the candle still life is tight as hell! great, great job!
One crit that i have for your more finished pencil stuff is that the hatching background effect that is seen in this (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/364.jpg) page or in the candle still life isn't truly effective because the visual rhythm is too jarring... yes, the darkness does recede into space, but the patterns that develop, it's like i want to see something in them or something... I believe this kind of effect would work better (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/355.jpg), it flattens out a bit better. If you must go very dark for a background like that, try and use marks that are much closer together and that won't intersect... that cross hatching is too tuff for me to try... :) Maybe check some of mind-candy-man's pencil work to see how he does that kind of thing... keep up the fantastic work! i hereby challenge you to kick MORE ASS.:yayca:
thanks name-droppin geeeeeetar man,
March 30th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Except as anyone who looks at his sketchbook will know, there's that whole annoying Canadian accent that you HAVE TO DEAL WITH. yeah, it's funny; but in a way you know that i'm not kidding.
I lurv you too baldy :)
But for your information, my accent is actually a combination of a Canadian accent sprinkled lightly with Serbian pronounciations (ie harsher sounds) embellished liberally with a colourful vocabulary :P
Guggen has a good point on the crosshatching - it creates cool effects and textures, but is distracting when its too loose. If you wanna crosshatch try goin in tighter and with a lighter touch to build up layers.
March 30th, 2006, 06:55 PM
frigging EPIC! It's amazing how much work you are getting done. True. It is like a green sock post--Except as anyone who looks at his sketchbook will know, there's that whole annoying Canadian accent that you HAVE TO DEAL WITH. yeah, it's funny; but in a way you know that i'm not kidding.
Hahahaha, now you got Nik all worked up. His accent isn't 100% Canadian like he said, it's like a mix... A DOOM MIX! That's the privilege I get with the show, getting to talk to you all fo' free.
But Andrew my man, you've been working tough like a damn ox, sleep much? I already told you this earlier, but big ups on pushing the imagination. It seems like we have the same problem with dulling things down just a little bit, there seems to be lots of gray. Try varying the lights and darks to their extreme; lights white and darks pure black. I'd like to see where that takes you. Good to see you've been keeping with the ninja styles, AKA stealing people's souls ala sketchbook. They've improved already, just keep doing it. Now you've got me wanting to work more. Cheers, friend. :D
March 31st, 2006, 12:50 AM
Lots n lots uv stuff. I'll agree with Zebz about disiplining your marks. Harold Speeds "The Practice and Science of Drawing" has a lot of good info about that, and there's a link for it on the wiki. This is one of the better faces http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/358.jpg the void at the inner corner of the eye contrasting with the fullness of the external angular process of the orbit is muy important in making an eye look realistic, also the hatching is more subtle than usual.
March 31st, 2006, 03:23 AM
he'hey! glad you're back!! and with candy. your knowledge of light is making leaps, really improving. great mohawk. i especially lilke this one (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/371.jpg) cause she has great proportions and and this one (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/370.jpg) cause it's got good value. only thing is what every body else has said, contrast. the figures are lookin good too. couple a things i noticed about your faces and figures is that you tend to swell the features, ie. eyes and noses are too big for the faces and limbs too thick for the body. try drawing a head and making the features too small and it may help to balance it out. this (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/holycrap3/357.jpg) ones great too, very dynamic. lots a good imagination stuff.
March 31st, 2006, 04:53 PM
wow! youve got some nice gestures posted here, showing that your eyes has started to focus more on bigger shapes, directions and movement. dont stop doing life drawing - it helps tremendously! some portraits in your recent posts have a really nice feel of form to them. keep on working but i guess you dont have to be told that as we can see that you keep yourself busy! maybe you should look at the drawings of ballett-dancers by degas - i bet you'll like them!
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