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akira123
September 6th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Hi everyone. I've just joined up and I'd like to know if anyone has made the transition from traditional art to digital. I'm considering doing that myself and would just like to hear some other peoples experiences. :rendered:

Blue
September 6th, 2005, 07:33 AM
i do believe 99% of us use digital medium. :)

Its not that tough a switch, just grab a wacom tablet and get drawing. :blahblah:

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 08:04 AM
It's not the artwork that bothers me, it's switching markets! :S

NoSeRider
September 6th, 2005, 08:05 AM
I find people feel you're not working as hard when you use digital, which is true......would you rather use an airbrush or photoshop?

Then people fall into this fallacy that if you're not working as hard then it's not good.

You can achieve a traditional type digital piece, just don't tell your clients that it's digital since they usually fall into that fallacy catagory.

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 08:10 AM
I used to think like that myself until I tried digital.

I've been working with an airbrush for fifteen years and photoshop for about 3 months, at the moment photoshop is way harder!

Magic Man
September 6th, 2005, 08:26 AM
I use both, to me digital is just an extension.

I'm actually using digital to teach myself traditional in some ways, never really used oils before and I'm starting to now since I want to start doing gallery work as well.

I love them both.

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 08:39 AM
What have you been doing up till now?
I had a look at your work, it looks like it's aimed at book covers and posters.

tensai
September 6th, 2005, 08:45 AM
would love to see some of your stuff man!

as for digital, took me awhile to get used to the wacom but its great fun to be so free to experiment and turn everything around (colors) almost at the end if you feel like it.

tensai

I_LOVE_ART
September 6th, 2005, 08:46 AM
Ancient:

http://www.acclaimposters.com/_gallery/large/10055787.jpg

Traditional:

http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/l/leonardo/04/1monali.jpg

Digital:

http://qualitywallpapers.x-istence.com/Other/Regeneration.jpg

Magic Man
September 6th, 2005, 08:48 AM
What have you been doing up till now?
I had a look at your work, it looks like it's aimed at book covers and posters.

Art direction, concept art and storyboarding, I run my own entertainment design company.

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 08:54 AM
When I have something that's not too awful I'll definitely post it and let you lot rip it apart! But at the moment everyone over the age of six with a computer is producing artwork that makes me look like an amateur!

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 09:00 AM
Art direction, concept art and storyboarding, I run my own entertainment design company.

Impressive.
I'm just your run of the mill jobbing artist trying to compete with ever cheaper imports and now digital.
You know what they say "If you can't beat em blah blah.

darkchild
September 6th, 2005, 09:02 AM
I made the transistion to digital art maybe a year or two ago. Pretty neat stuff and less messy. But to me nothing beats traditional stuff. I'm just not good at either one *sigh*.... But it's a great learning experience:)

Red_Rook
September 6th, 2005, 09:02 AM
When I have something that's not too awful I'll definitely post it and let you lot rip it apart! But at the moment everyone over the age of six with a computer is producing artwork that makes me look like an amateur!

its not a pride thing, if you post those up your gunna get some awesome critiques, i bet most of your mistakes are easily avoidable, and people will give ya a ton og tips, and it will speed up your entire process tenfold.

Magic Man
September 6th, 2005, 09:04 AM
Impressive.
I'm just your run of the mill jobbing artist trying to compete with ever cheaper imports and now digital.
You know what they say "If you can't beat em blah blah.

Really depends mate - digital isn't the be all end all of concept design, I'm art director and lead concept at a videogame company (contract pos) with a couple of jr concepters under me - one of them had never used digital before and I am strictly limiting her time on it since she can't do jack shit with it. I myself use about 50/50 digital and analogue, in the end it doesn't really matter as long as you get the concepts out there.

In fine arts though, its traditional all the way, digital will never be able to compete on the same terms in the fine arts market.

I_LOVE_ART
September 6th, 2005, 09:12 AM
Only my personal opinion, digital is all good, but traditional is the best and is irreplaceable.

akira123
September 6th, 2005, 09:28 AM
Really depends mate - digital isn't the be all end all of concept design, I'm art director and lead concept at a videogame company (contract pos) with a couple of jr concepters under me - one of them had never used digital before and I am strictly limiting her time on it since she can't do jack shit with it. I myself use about 50/50 digital and analogue, in the end it doesn't really matter as long as you get the concepts out there.

In fine arts though, its traditional all the way, digital will never be able to compete on the same terms in the fine arts market.

Yeah, that's true about traditional, thing is, when I started out in this business I really wanted to do book covers and I just sort of drifted into fine art. It's been fun but maybe I'm having an early midlife crisis and fancy something a bit different and digital seems well suited for book covers.

waronmars
September 6th, 2005, 08:11 PM
digital is another medium, people don't do all digital and no traditional. And whether you should start using digital is really a matter of where you are as an artist, going digi too early is a mistake.

also traditional and digital arent always so easy to distinguish...

traditional by coro
http://coro36ink.com/updates/newrstuff/4heads.jpg

egerie
September 7th, 2005, 12:48 PM
Painfully. I was getting very frustrated with the tablet at first in photoshop. I almost prefered slow airbrushing with a mouse at that point. I eventually got better at it but personally it'll never replace the control and happyness I have with a good old col-erase or a cheap brush.

JustinBeckett
September 7th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Dont switch over, Continue to paint traditional and also paint digital. You will learn more from traditional painting. In my opinion anyhow.

:)

bluegoddess16
September 8th, 2005, 12:37 AM
i find it kinda sad no one seems to do traditional painting anymore...the experience is so completely different from painting in a computer. i mean sure, all those toxic materials i use are going to give me cancer...but nothing can replace the feel of the paint and a brush moving through a space, and the emotion which is created as a result of your physical movements along-side the canvas. i mean, if you enjoy creating real texture, digital art can never suffice. :nohope:

Shamagim
September 8th, 2005, 12:38 AM
Sad truth:

In the beggining, man used stones and natural pigments to make art, as the time passed, faster and better methods were researched and then used...and most of you know the rest

Even traditional art is using better materials than before, to make it easyer and faster, Digital art does save time and is easyer to use for this generations, sadly in 20 years or so, most work will be digital, just because is faster and can imitate traditional methods.......(of cource you cant know what is going to happen in the future, but is my guess if we keep seeing where this current track is going)

Good points about this, as the art becomes "easyer" to be made, the creation standards rise aswell, cliche becomes something as normal as the stick men everybody makes, and force artist to push the limits of their imagination to be considered accepted in those future standards...


But im just guessing ( and i do bouth traditional and digital, though i have never tryed oil painting....but since i got my Wacom 2 weeks ago....just digital :(, but it feels similar :) )

akira123
September 8th, 2005, 04:08 AM
I agree that digital will take over although not completely. There will always be a market for traditional but digital is simply quicker and cheaper and that's always been a major factor. I've been a professional artist for 20 years and I will use any techniques and tricks I can to make my work quicker and cheaper, it's only at the top end of the market that you can afford the luxury of time and therefore higher prices.