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magicgoo
September 1st, 2005, 02:32 PM
Until the Advent Children DVD release:

Official Site with links to trailers (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/)

Well, I for one, can't wait!

Ssenkrah Semaj
September 1st, 2005, 03:01 PM
All I have seen are psp release dates....

I_LOVE_ART
September 1st, 2005, 03:49 PM
Until the Advent Children DVD release:

Official Site with links to trailers (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/)

Well, I for one, can't wait!


Wow, I didn't know there are people anticipating Advent Children in this forum apart from me! :D

AngetheSlayer
September 1st, 2005, 10:46 PM
I heard that is has been pushed back for its releas over here at the states. My boyfreind has told me its just better to put in the extra money and go buy the inport version. I think I just might do that .Since I love the FF games. My fav will always be FF9. <3

magicgoo
September 1st, 2005, 11:30 PM
The American release shouldn't be pushed back, AngetheSlayer. All the release dates are posted on several sites for 12 more days.

Nero's Master
September 2nd, 2005, 11:03 AM
Nope, the state release will be sometime after Thanksgiving and before Christmas. So as to apeal the holiday rush. *money grubbing corporations... >:|

Oh well, no biggy. It's pretty and all, but the animations, from what I've seen, are really...bland. There's no life there at all. My roomy has been so excited about this movie since it was first mentioned, I hope she won't be let down. :/

magicgoo
September 2nd, 2005, 02:04 PM
Aww :(

I guess I'll edit the title to say, NOT 12 Days!

Nero's Master
September 2nd, 2005, 03:40 PM
Awwww, I'm sorry. Blame corporate America for that.

Here's an article (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143124)

cthomp
September 2nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
hmm... gmaestop still says sept 13. so i am not sure. i also dont remeber seeing that info on any other sites. if it is delayed it wont suprise me. maybe if it is subbed i will import since ff7 is my favorite rpg. either i didnt plan on getting the 300$ one.

I_LOVE_ART
September 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM
Advent Children is out already... Anyone saw it yet?

Zachx
September 13th, 2005, 01:58 PM
I hope it is out - been waiting over a year now for this movie >.<

cthomp
September 13th, 2005, 07:43 PM
i got it. have yet to watch it. i cant wait to see the dubbed version.

Nils_Carstens
September 13th, 2005, 08:05 PM
well im not that much into the topic, but the movie had some amazing shots. i just hope that i can get a chance to watch it on the big screen some time

Sinix
September 13th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Yea, I watched it, it was good. I wish they woulda done more with the other characters and whatnot, but it had a suprising return of my favorite ff7 character... starts with a "R", ends with a "S". It's basically just one huge action scene, but the action is good... so it's alot of fun, and they did a great job with tifa. I hope they do that FF7 remake someday, yuffie, cid, and barret all were great in their new forms.. I just wanna see more of them.

jetpack42
September 13th, 2005, 11:45 PM
So extreme that it was ridiculous. I really wanted to like it...argh.

Take Bahamut and Vincent out and it was total rubbish.

edit: FF:AC bears a striking resemblance to "3 fast 3 3urious."

obid619
September 14th, 2005, 12:43 AM
your review just made me not want to watch the movie jetpack. THANKS! :$

tinyhands
September 14th, 2005, 01:34 AM
So extreme that it was ridiculous. I really wanted to like it...argh.

Take Bahamut and Vincent out and it was total rubbish.

edit: FF:AC bears a striking resemblance to "3 fast 3 3urious."

Mr. 42, I'm guessing you didn't care for ff7 in general perhaps? The movie is really supposed to be a total fanservice.

p.s. Bahamut > all

-tiny

jetpack42
September 14th, 2005, 02:27 AM
FF7 is one of the best RPGs, or even best games, ever.

Come over and watch if you want, tiny. I'm sure it's just as silly the 2nd time around.


If racing at 200mph on motorcycles while spinning standing swordfighting jumping flipping grunting making suprised faces blocking bullets with swords shooting flying through the air being generally invincible and all around fantastical maneuvers, ALL AT THE SAME TIME is your thing, you will love this movie.

Here's the new FF:AC trailer http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/222150

As for "fanservice"....I can imagine 12 year olds thinking it was awesome. So they would have had to play the game when they were.....4-5 years old...if at all.

one2hit
September 14th, 2005, 05:16 AM
I have yet to see it. Someone on another forum I go to had a torrent of it. It already had it's release on the big screen in japan, and the dvd/umd official realease is tomorrow. It has no subs though if you decide to import it. There are a few reviews already online that I have read, and the general consensus is that if you have never played ff7 you won't get the movie at all. This is definately a film for fans only. Everyone I talked to is saying that its pretty damn amazing. God I can't wait till the fall.

-tiny

if you download it though, it has been fansubbed. Anyway I watched it today. I'm generally dissapointed with the movie. Some battles started off intense with a real sense of weight and danger, but somehow as the battles raged on characters could jump higher, defy more gravity, cling to walls, take injuries that would crush bones into sand ect, and be unscathed. What I loved about this movie is also what I didn't like about it. The fight scenes were well coreographed, but it got too over the top, too "super hero-ish". It seemed everyone was invinsible and anyone could do anything, like they were in the matrix.

Anyway that's just my opinion, many of you will love it no doubt. Bahamut's appearance was excellent! and it was pretty great to see the characters in detailed 3D (but unforunately they all looked like dolls with real skin wrapped over them).

Dizon
September 14th, 2005, 06:42 AM
if you download it though, it has been fansubbed. Anyway I watched it today. I'm generally dissapointed with the movie. Some battles started off intense with a real sense of weight and danger, but somehow as the battles raged on characters could jump higher, defy more gravity, cling to walls, take injuries that would crush bones into sand ect, and be unscathed. What I loved about this movie is also what I didn't like about it. The fight scenes were well coreographed, but it got too over the top, too "super hero-ish". It seemed everyone was invinsible and anyone could do anything, like they were in the matrix.

Anyway that's just my opinion, many of you will love it no doubt. Bahamut's appearance was excellent! and it was pretty great to see the characters in detailed 3D (but unforunately they all looked like dolls with real skin wrapped over them).

All that exaggerating was ok cuz it all happens in the game anyway. COOL MOVIE!!!!!!

I_LOVE_ART
September 14th, 2005, 07:28 AM
but it had a suprising return of my favorite ff7 character... starts with a "R", ends with a "S".



Rufus?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO spoiled the fun!!! :dead:

tinyhands
September 14th, 2005, 11:00 AM
FF7 is one of the best RPGs, or even best games, ever.

Come over and watch if you want, tiny. I'm sure it's just as silly the 2nd time around.


If racing at 200mph on motorcycles while spinning standing swordfighting jumping flipping grunting making suprised faces blocking bullets with swords shooting flying through the air being generally invincible and all around fantastical maneuvers, ALL AT THE SAME TIME is your thing, you will love this movie.

As for "fanservice"....I can imagine 12 year olds thinking it was awesome. So they would have had to play the game when they were.....4-5 years old...if at all.

I might have to take you up on that offer Jetpack. I'm pretty darn sure I'll love it as I'm an ff fanboy. :nerd:

-tiny

jetpack42
September 14th, 2005, 12:16 PM
it all happens in the game


I forget which part of the game where Tifa is spiderman and Cloud is Goku??

Dizon
September 14th, 2005, 11:38 PM
I forget which part of the game where Tifa is spiderman and Cloud is Goku??


oh cmon..what I mean is the whole "exaggerated" action thats happening in the movie. A lot of humanely impossible stuff happens in the movie as well as in the game for crying out loud.

jetpack42
September 15th, 2005, 01:06 AM
I expected it to be exaggerated, in fact, i enjoyed alot of it, ex: the first half of tifa's fight, alot of vincents movements, limit breaks....etc....at least half of it was just WAY TOO OVER THE TOP EXTREME TO THE MAXXXXXXXX.......in my opinion.

2100
September 15th, 2005, 02:47 AM
I just watched it.

I thought it was a pretty bad movie. THe animation and graphics are unargueably incredible, and I loved the fight scenes. But the plot, story, pacing, and certain elements are just BS. Plus I think the worst part is that in order to really get anything in this movie, you have to know the game. Otherwise it's just a confusing mess.

Take Denzel for example. He wasn't in the game, and not much was said of him in the movie, even though a lot of importance seemed to be placed onto him. The rest of the orphans didn't even appear until further into the movie. Infact I don't think it was ever implied that Tifa and Cloud ran the orphanage at all. For a while I thought the two kids were brother sisters, and related to Cloud and Tifa.

What's with the circle of orphans around the memorial tower anyways (this is the scene before Kadaj summons Bahamut)? Also, the angry mob made no attempt to do anything. All the did was protested behind a fence of children! Sure they get chased off by demons AFTERWARDS, but it was still pretty bs.

Then the sudden appearance of all the old heroes. It was kind of overwhelming even for me. (Even though that's where it starts getting good!)

I thought the Tifa/Water thing, and the "I couldn't protect you", was kinda cheesy.

(running out of time, rushing, lol)

other BS Parts:
-orphans just do exactly what kadaj tells them to do??
-cloud is neo/goku (but he was still cool)
-*the baptising of Denzel
-Areth's water spirit
-Cloud's random fainting next to Tifa, on a field(garden) of tulips!
-the whole geostigma in general.
-the fictional philosophical lectures

I_LOVE_ART
September 15th, 2005, 07:11 AM
I just watched it, and I am afraid that I agree with 2100. Graphics and action is totally amazing, but plot, story and pregression and pace of the whole thing was fucked! :dead:

I had the same feeling when I watched this movie, that I had 3 years ago when I watched The Matrix 2... Cool graphics and action, but fucked up story! :$

~~~SPOILERS~~~~

I just want these questions answered:

Q: From where the hell did the kadaj gang come from?
Q: WTF is this geostigma thing?
Q: What exactly is the kadaj group's objective?
Q: Right at the end, Kadaj notices that Jenova cells leaked off and finished then he shouts... two mintues later he uses the box to turn to sephiroth, WTF?
Q: Since when Cait Sith is on RED XIII, where is its big teddy?!
THE ULTIMATE QUESTION: WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS SEQUEL?

Dizon
September 15th, 2005, 09:57 AM
does anyone know why it was shown "498 years ago" right before the Turks start to talk? 498 yrs? isnt that too much?

one2hit
September 15th, 2005, 10:36 AM
THE ULTIMATE QUESTION: WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS SEQUEL?

To make money!! duh, what do you think square-enix is after? Making quality games and movies that appearl to the gamer, the child and the intellectual, or pushing over-stylized, super hyper action to the mainstream croud and fanboys?

-Did anyone wonder how Cloud, and those two silver haired androgynous freak boys managed to fly through the air in the tunnel scene after getting knocked off their moving bikes (which they landed upon later miraculously defying everything) after what should have been lost momentum from throwing a bike, cutting through a bike with a sword and flipping around in empty space. oh yeah. The yuppie shot him twice with his gun, that sent him hurtling another 80 feet before landing on his bike (which was teleporting around below him to keep up with all this stop and go action.

tinyhands
September 15th, 2005, 11:14 AM
does anyone know why it was shown "498 years ago" right before the Turks start to talk? 498 yrs? isnt that too much?

Advent Children is suppossed to place 2 yrs after the events of FF7. But I do remember at the end of FF7 in the game it shows RedXIII and whatnot 500 yrs after the meteor events. Haven't seen AC yet so I don't know how that flows together, so not quite sure.

-tiny

Dizon
September 15th, 2005, 11:42 AM
Advent Children is suppossed to place 2 yrs after the events of FF7. But I do remember at the end of FF7 in the game it shows RedXIII and whatnot 500 yrs after the meteor events. Haven't seen AC yet so I don't know how that flows together, so not quite sure.

-tiny

Ohh ok..it makes perfect sense now

thanks man

Undefeated
September 15th, 2005, 11:54 AM
!!!SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
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While visually stunning, the story is as fucked (as someone else put it) as the other FF movie. And why am I watching the Turks for the bulk of the movie, when some of my favorites (Yuffie, Cid looked fantastic) are preening on the sidelines? I like Reno and Rude alright, but they shouldn't take center stage over the mainstays.

None of the story made sense, or was in the least little bit compelling. And the player I watched it one suffered from a lot of slowdown and different points, so I didnt get to enjoy the fight scenes as much as I would have liked. As much as all the flying around got annoying after a while, I just looked at it like those samurai movies where everyone jumps 800 feet and dukes it out in mid-air. And was that Kedaj person a guy or a girl? I thought it was a chick, but then I thought they called Kedaj "he" while they were on the airship.

Anyway, the worst part of the movie for me was that guy in this thread crying about "Corporate America". Please.

jetpack42
September 15th, 2005, 03:45 PM
Q: Since when Cait Sith is on RED XIII, where is its big teddy?!


I was hoping to see Cait Sith riding his bear the whole time....riding Red XIII wtf?!?!

also dude, the kadaj is people who are born of jenova, like sephiroth, i think. And geostigma is people who are normal, but have some of genova's cells in them, and their bodies are trying to rid them of it (or kill them). Their objective, according to sephiroth, is to take control of the earth, ride it through space until they find a better planet, and take over the better planet.....lame.

Dizon
September 15th, 2005, 04:40 PM
I think Mr. Nomura and Square Enix deserve praise for their efforts!

Great job guys!!!!!!! :)

one2hit
September 15th, 2005, 05:45 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20050914l.jpg

hehe

Undefeated
September 15th, 2005, 06:28 PM
I was hoping to see Cait Sith riding his bear the whole time....riding Red XIII wtf?!?!

also dude, the kadaj is people who are born of jenova, like sephiroth, i think.

I thought Kadaj was that chick-dude's name. This is confusing. Imma watch it again, seems to run more smoothly in RealPlayer than in WMP.

Seriously, was the leader of that gang a guy or a girl?

I_LOVE_ART
September 15th, 2005, 07:57 PM
Seriously, was the leader of that gang a guy or a girl?

Kadaj is a he, look at this picture:
http://pagesperso.laposte.net/universfantasy/FFAV/screen_2.jpg

Notice no breats?

unless she has size 30 AA breasts! :nohope:

Undefeated
September 15th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Aw, man.

I guess thats what I get for watching it with no sound. I WAS watching for breasts the whole time, though. Take from that what you will. :er:

Robert.B
September 16th, 2005, 12:55 PM
It was amazing I cant belive how well every aspect of it was executed. The camera angels the animation and fight scenes briliant.
I cant stop watching it.

I_LOVE_ART
September 16th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Advent Children is more like a 20 minutes or less movie, but there is so much bullshit in it that made it go for 1.5 hrs!

Example:

If I was the director, I would’ve cut the crap and kicked out the kadaj group from the beginning, and instead reintroduce sephiroth from the beginning and claim he was reborn in the northern crater. This way, I would not worry about who kadaj group are, where they came from and their goal and instead, we will have pure Sephiroth Vs good guys action through out the movie.

Edit: Seriously Sephiroth was reborn in the original game once, why can't he be reborn again!?

Ian Mack
September 16th, 2005, 11:43 PM
I've got the slowest download EVER going on the movie. I can't wait to see it.

I'm pretty sure I'm only going to enjoy the graphics though...Red XIII was my fave character and I know he won't have a major part. Especially if Cait Sith is riding him! G'damn.

Ian Mack
September 16th, 2005, 11:47 PM
-Did anyone wonder how Cloud, and those two silver haired androgynous freak boys managed to fly through the air in the tunnel scene after getting knocked off their moving bikes (which they landed upon later miraculously defying everything) after what should have been lost momentum from throwing a bike, cutting through a bike with a sword and flipping around in empty space. oh yeah. The yuppie shot him twice with his gun, that sent him hurtling another 80 feet before landing on his bike (which was teleporting around below him to keep up with all this stop and go action.


Haha! I love shit like that...no wait. It is annoying! It should be a sin for an animator to forget gravity. Steamboy had the same problem!

|NTeRN
September 17th, 2005, 01:37 AM
i saw clips of it today at JP42s place and i must say it was pretty awfull at best. i love action and i love exxagerated humanly impossible feats but the whole jump scene where cloud jumps and everyone gives him aboost at somepoint midair to the point where hes over a 100 floor build was just freaking stupid as hell

the fights scene, though impressive, where horriblly done in the sense that every kick, punch, twich and gunt was a new shoot. im a guy who loves me some action but i like to see it not random chaos.

the the bahumat lil fight was pretty gay too. ya he rule but shit all the peeps fighting him would jump on him in the stupidest ways ever. they should at least no just lazilly jump on him over and over and over again.

its pretty, ill give it that, but it was pretty pointless

tinyhands
September 17th, 2005, 09:43 AM
I finally saw it last night after finding a decent download. I definately loved it. Theres so many 'little' things to watch for in the movie, so many little details from the game and what not. Definately adds to the overall charm of the movie imo. From the opening shot of where FF7 ended to the pan of Midgar and the mako reactors, and the cell phone victory ring-tone, it was all cool and nostalgic. I also loved how all the main character were sporting 'ribbons' The CG is probably the best I've seen, everything is so beautifully rendered. While the story does leave room for some interpretation and has a few little loopholes, it doesn't really bother me that much, as ff7 as a game had a little bit of those as well. But I definately don't think it's as confusing as most are saying. Like I've heard before I even saw the movie, unless you REALLY remember alot about ff7 and it's details, the movie won't make much sense. Granted it's been awhile since I've played the game myself, and this definately gives me the urge to go back to it again.
<rant mode on>
Now as far as how all the fights and what have you are 'ridiculous' I mean honestly it's a sci-fi/fantasy movie, none of the shit is supposed to plausible. It's no worse than any of the matrix movies or any wire-fu movie. Doing 360's on a speeding motorcycle, having a guy with a gun attached to his arm, and someone summoning huge fucking dragons isn't plausible either. The fight scenes were entertaining and watching some of the limit breaks were awesome, especially cloud's omnislash in the end. I do wish that the main characters were in it a bit more, but theres only so much you can squeeze into a short movie. I definately liked the reno and rude comic relief, their fight scenes were pretty cool.
<rant mode off>
All in all I thought it was damn cool, and I can't wait till the u.s. realease. I'm praying that they don't dub it and leave as is with subtitles. So while alot of people are hating on it, I definately loved it. But it also helps that I'm an FF and uber fan-boy. Damn I think FFXII comes out in march, damn that's like 6 months!! <3

-tiny

Undefeated
September 17th, 2005, 11:42 AM
<rant mode on>
Now as far as how all the fights and what have you are 'ridiculous' I mean honestly it's a sci-fi/fantasy movie, none of the shit is supposed to plausible. It's no worse than any of the matrix movies or any wire-fu movie. Doing 360's on a speeding motorcycle, having a guy with a gun attached to his arm, and someone summoning huge fucking dragons isn't plausible either. The fight scenes were entertaining and watching some of the limit breaks were awesome, especially cloud's omnislash in the end. I do wish that the main characters were in it a bit more, but theres only so much you can squeeze into a short movie. I definately liked the reno and rude comic relief, their fight scenes were pretty cool.
<rant mode off>
-tiny

The point is, the Matrix movies can do whatever the fuck they want because they're working from an empty canvas. If you're going to make an FF7 movie, where everyone and their mother (not mine) have played the game, we all know what they can do. I mean, hell, if Cloud could jump 400 feet and Tifa could stick to walls, that would have saved me a lot of time climbing all those damn ropes and timing jumps in game.

Maybe it would have been easier to absorb if they hadn't lengthened Tifa's skirt. :zzz:

Thats what people are saying. This stuff is NOT true to the FF7 characters we've known for like, 7 or 8 years already. We're *ALL* FF7 whores. I think thats why 90% of people I've seen talk about it have been disappointed.

In any case, I'd definitely recommend it to everyone, just to look at it.

Dizon
September 17th, 2005, 11:54 AM
The point is, the Matrix movies can do whatever the fuck they want because they're working from an empty canvas. If you're going to make an FF7 movie, where everyone and their mother (not mine) have played the game, we all know what they can do. I mean, hell, if Cloud could jump 400 feet and Tifa could stick to walls, that would have saved me a lot of time climbing all those damn ropes and timing jumps in game.

Maybe it would have been easier to absorb if they hadn't lengthened Tifa's skirt. :zzz:

Thats what people are saying. This stuff is NOT true to the FF7 characters we've known for like, 7 or 8 years already. We're *ALL* FF7 whores. I think thats why 90% of people I've seen talk about it have been disappointed.

In any case, I'd definitely recommend it to everyone, just to look at it.


booooo.....lol

the movie was kick ass. oh well, cant please everyone...

tinyhands
September 17th, 2005, 04:55 PM
The point is, the Matrix movies can do whatever the fuck they want because they're working from an empty canvas. If you're going to make an FF7 movie, where everyone and their mother (not mine) have played the game, we all know what they can do. I mean, hell, if Cloud could jump 400 feet and Tifa could stick to walls, that would have saved me a lot of time climbing all those damn ropes and timing jumps in game.

Maybe it would have been easier to absorb if they hadn't lengthened Tifa's skirt. :zzz:

Thats what people are saying. This stuff is NOT true to the FF7 characters we've known for like, 7 or 8 years already. We're *ALL* FF7 whores. I think thats why 90% of people I've seen talk about it have been disappointed.

In any case, I'd definitely recommend it to everyone, just to look at it.

I know what you mean, but it's obvious they took certain liberties with the movie that weren't in the game. If they could jump all over the place and what not the game would be a platformer and not an rpg. And everyone isn't a FF , some people on here are too young to remember it. I'm a super .

-tiny

jetpack42
September 17th, 2005, 05:12 PM
The point is, the Matrix movies can do whatever the fuck they want because they're working from an empty canvas. If you're going to make an FF7 movie, where everyone and their mother (not mine) have played the game, we all know what they can do. I mean, hell, if Cloud could jump 400 feet and Tifa could stick to walls, that would have saved me a lot of time climbing all those damn ropes and timing jumps in game.



http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif


That's exactly what pisses me off so much, it's a different reality then what I loved about the game. Cloud wasn't some superhuman soldier guy in the game, he wasn't the savior of the world. He had a good team around him to help him....or so I was under the impression, and even though its two years after, it's ridiculous.

stupid squaresoft http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthdown.gif

K-17
September 17th, 2005, 06:15 PM
It's not like this movie was the LOTR trilogy or anything. They had 2 hours to do their thing. I never expected it to be some kind of drama, nor wanted it to. And i don't see the problem with them being able to jump really high and have near-dragonball strengh. I mean, they could summon dragons to shoot cataclysmic death-rays from the sky in the game. It's not like it's a stretch unless they were supposed to just sit there and wait for a cursor noise, then attack in turns and return to their places until someone ran out of HP. I was ok with it being shallow in terms of plot too. Heck, for a movie with almost no plot, it had more story than all of this year's hollywood blockbusters put toghether. For someone who knows FF7, that's fine (at least for me it is); for someone who doesn't, i don't see how it would matter. I had all the background i needed from the game. I knew and liked pretty much every character. I didn't need anymore introspection of Cloud's psyche or Barret's hopes and dreams for the future of the planet. Trying to force in more complex plot would probably just end up going wrong and screwing up the story beyond repair.
The only thing i saw amiss in the game was a motherlode of ass-kicking and now here it is. Sure the movie has it's cheesy moments, just like the game does, but i can forgive that. It doesn't further anything but doesn't screw it up either, and for that, i'm glad. But that's me.

DarkZeal
September 17th, 2005, 07:41 PM
I thought the movie was weird. The fight scenes were so much like DBZ. Sephiroth and Cloud were both cutting up buildings like nothing. Also alot of the characters like Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent can basically fly around freely for some reason =S (maybe if you were more popular, you get better powers).

Undefeated
September 17th, 2005, 07:51 PM
Its actually funny, I never knew how popular Vincent was until I really started to wander around on teh internet. Me, I never used him. :blah:

DarkZeal
September 17th, 2005, 07:57 PM
Good looking anime guys with long hair are always popular ;) Sephiroth was more popular than Vincent because he has white hair(+5 cool points), also because he was a bad guy(+10 cool points).

Seriously Vincent sucked in the game =(

K-17
September 17th, 2005, 08:20 PM
Yeah, but it's a game after all. I get enough of realistic-looking fat annoying women and ugly mug pricks (like me) in real life.

prostate sunrise
September 17th, 2005, 08:56 PM
i liked it.

and the design for cloud's sword harness is badass.

Partialartist
September 17th, 2005, 09:31 PM
I thought the movie was weird. The fight scenes were so much like DBZ. Sephiroth and Cloud were both cutting up buildings like nothing. Also alot of the characters like Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent can basically fly around freely for some reason =S (maybe if you were more popular, you get better powers).

I'd just like to point out that only Vincent and Sephiroth really flew. Vincent's a vampire, and I believe Sephiroth flew in the game. Cloud only really "flew" during his final limit break(which wasn't very different from what he did with the in-game Omnislash). Every other time, he was just jumping really high, or bouncing off of a wall. You're looking at a character who is wielding two giant ass swords, one of which is made up of many other swords, like they're wooden spoons. He's gotta have some crazy strength.

Also, Tifa didn't stick to the wall like Spiderman. They slowed down the moment where she impacted the wall. She bounded off before gravity took any major effect.

The motorcycle stuff was pretty rediculous, though. Maybe they were some kind of super-gyroscopic stunt cycles, with treaded wheels that grip going forwards, and slip going sideways. I bet someone reproduces one within the next decade.

I don't think the jumping was all that crazy, given the FF series. Take Lancers, and their "Jump" skill, for instance. They jump one turn, stay in the airwhile everyone else is fighting, then come down a turn or so later. There's nothing remotely realistic about that.

jetpack42
September 18th, 2005, 02:12 AM
Also, Tifa didn't stick to the wall like Spiderman. They slowed down the moment where she impacted the wall. She bounded off before gravity took any major effect.



LOL, before gravity took effect? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL








ps- it's in "effect" all the time.

Partialartist
September 18th, 2005, 02:29 AM
Cmon, you know what I maen. She was off the wall before she started falling. It was just in slow-mo. If you tried to kick off a wall, would you fall to the ground before you got the chance?

jetpack42
September 18th, 2005, 02:32 AM
if you flew at a wall at...whatever speed that was...how would you manage to not only land on it feet first (she was thrown head first) but spring off of it without being affected by inertia, or the stress on your bones/muscles (snapping, being smashed). I'm not saying everything has to be literal...but I'm talking about the FF7 universe, not DBZ. I hate stupid fighting where everyone is somehow invincible until somebody gets one random lucky super secret move in that automatically wins the fight....there's no tension or believability. It's just plain silly.

They could have left that as it was, but had her go through the wall, and all the flowers fly up like that, and it would have been 100 times better. God Forbid a character GET HURT during a fight.

Partialartist
September 18th, 2005, 02:41 AM
Hey, at least a dolphin didn't appear out of nowhere.

K-17
September 18th, 2005, 06:59 AM
Vincent's not a vampire.

Ian Mack
September 18th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Hey, at least a dolphin didn't appear out of nowhere.

LOL

After watching the movie I decided that this was the mindset of the animators of the film. They had their FF7 toys and got to do WHATEVER they wanted. Voila. I know when I was a kid, my toys were able to defy all sorts of natural laws of physics. However....they were not consistent in their usage and that is what killed the believeability for me.

Good call on the lack of tension. Especially once it became the Cloud show near the end. You knew the ending was coming and you know Cloud was going to win so you just had to sit back and enjoy the show.

Good show! Not a good movie. Relegated to the "watch when I need a purely visual orgasm" pile. Some good nostalgia in there! Reno was so funny. "Rude, you're so cool!" (from outside the building).

jetpack42
September 19th, 2005, 05:11 AM
One thing that has just recently started to bug me about anime in general is the overuse of the "suprise noise"....I don't know if I've ever heard anybody do this in real life..but it's the half-grunt-half-gasp that characters do when animators fail to be able to animate suprise. What can I say...I'm a picky person.

Undefeated
September 19th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Hey! An angry post has disappeared! No fair.

tinyhands
September 19th, 2005, 02:08 PM
Just saw Last Order this morning. I kinda wish it was cg like AC was, but the animation style suited it well. Definately short and sweet, I really liked how there was more emphasis on Zack and the events at Nibelheim, than there was on Cloud. The few fights that are in it are freakin' awesome. It's one of those things that wish would just keep going, and then it ends. Christ I love FF7.

-tiny

K-17
September 19th, 2005, 04:22 PM
Hey! An angry post has disappeared! No fair.

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