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lucasgraciano
August 29th, 2005, 03:34 PM
A couple of pick-outs-

http://www.lucasgraciano.com/art/life-drawing-01.jpg

http://www.lucasgraciano.com/art/life-drawing-13.jpg

Crits welcome.

Elwell
August 29th, 2005, 04:22 PM
Those look really good. In the first one his far cheek is very flat, it would help if the edge was softened and the underplane emphasized. The darks on the forehead seem a little overstated, also. I know composition isn't your main focus in these, but the second one looks like it wants some darks in the lower left.

Will you get a chance to overpaint these, or will they stand as they are?

Skuli
August 29th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Well, Elwell pointed out the problems I saw.
Great paintings, very cool, I like the color

mentler
August 29th, 2005, 05:53 PM
What does pick-outs refer to <><> can you describe this method for me <><> in the first painting along with the softening of edges the far cheek bone is low and looks like it is going into the corner of the eye socket <><> this error is made more often than not <><> the highest point of the cheek bone arch is around to the side and above the center of the socket <><> always think of drawing the angle of the cheek bone around a cylindrical shape going around to the side of the socket and not up to its corner <><> I don't know if I explained this well enough but I hope it makes sense>>>

figure2
August 30th, 2005, 09:52 AM
mentler,

If it is what I think it is, you first prepare the canvas by laying down a semi-transparent tone of paint, usually one of the browns is used. You then gradually define the form by subtracting paint by using your finger under your paint rag, q-tips, brushes, etc. The white of the canvas would be your lightest value and the original value of the paint covering the canvas would be your darkest tone. As these examples demonstrate, the object is to subtract paint gradually to get a full range of values.

Dizon
August 30th, 2005, 09:55 AM
good studies man. you get long bearded models often? haha ;)

loomer
August 30th, 2005, 11:56 AM
These are looking good...Elwell gave some smart pointers and crits too.
I never heard the term pick-out...we always said wipe-out.

Mentler...I think this method was describes here before in a thread called Underpaintings (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39477&highlight=underpaintings) ...there was a lot of useful info there if I recall.

if you can't find anything, I'm sure Tristan or I can do our best to describe the method, but basically it's just how figure2 said. If you need more details, just let us know.

the_allejo05
August 30th, 2005, 12:43 PM
nice.

lucasgraciano
August 30th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Elwell- Thanks for the crit. I don't plan on over painting these. Aspecially without the model.

Skuli-Thanks for your comment.

Mentler- Thanks for the crit. That is something I'll have to watch for. The process of "Burnt Umber Pick-Out" is pretty much what "figure2" said. I start by staining the canvas a certain value(depending on skin value or over all desired value), the initial stain usually acts as my half tones. From here I work back and forth my lights and darks. Lights are achieved by "picking out" to the white of the canvas. I use a pp towel, q-tips, pallet knife, needed eraser, one of those rubber brushes, and my finger. Whatever you have to get you the right shape and edge out of the paint. I hope this helps.

patdzon- Thanks. We have a variety of models. I just happend to post the 2 paintings I had pictures of. I'll post more soon.

Loomer- Thanks for your input.

the_allejo05- thanks.

artprnts
August 30th, 2005, 06:25 PM
It's so cool, I like it a lot. I can't wait to see more of your works.. keep it up

lucasgraciano
September 11th, 2005, 09:15 PM
a couple more:

http://www.lucasgraciano.com/art/life-drawing-07.jpg

http://www.lucasgraciano.com/art/life-drawing-08.jpg

crits welcome.