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Hyskoa
August 27th, 2005, 11:54 AM
I can draw a front view, a sideview and a 3/4th view, but no matter what I try,
I can't translate the aspects from a front view to a 3/4th view, anyone mind explaining how they handle this? I'm registering for a live drawing class in a month or so in case this is your advice, but I don't really see how practising without knowing the info behind the buildup of a face can make me understand the aspects of it.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Lim
August 27th, 2005, 01:36 PM
take a look right here (http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm)

Dizon
August 27th, 2005, 01:38 PM
So, you are having a hard time being consistent ? IS that it?

Anyway, you need to be familiar with the forms and underlying structure of the head. Analyse in your mind how this particular head would turn, so you know what forms are more apparent. Maybe if you can post an image of what you were doing? I can easily help you that way.

Hyskoa
August 27th, 2005, 01:55 PM
take a look right here (http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm)

I did actually, together with saveloomis.org, now I know how to draw the basic headshape in every possible position, but I don't know how to alter it consistently.

Oh, and thank you for all the answers so far.

the_allejo05
August 29th, 2005, 11:04 AM
what do you mean ..alter it consistently??

you have to understand the head..no matter in what view so you are not bound to what you see.....try practicing some simple objects from life..do its plan ,elevation ,front and side view of the same object..or look at object and draw it in reverse....the thing is undestanding each form that makes up the head....how is your understanding of the simpler skull?..the features just lie on top of it....try drawing from your imagination/memory...hmm also do some sculptures..maybe of the planes of the head..(that makes you think in 3d ness..)perpective ,perspecive, and anatomy..that is all..post some of your drawings..so we can help...

the_allejo05
August 31st, 2005, 11:31 AM
got your private message..:)
melancholie im no expert but you can take a look at the heads i have done at my site..it is under portraits..most of them are done from life (the more detailed ones were done from pictures..which i really hate doing)..some are good, some suck..but i keep practicing them..

this is what i have done to help me: sometimes i copied heads from masterworks (very helpful,have done a handull)..I see that you are pretty familiar with loomis..I have read the book but i still need to study more of his concepts....the same with the anatomy of the face..im still in baby steps.. When I am doing figure drawing from life..I started just concentrating on the face(it feels confortable since the model is not really looking at you,nor posing, so instead of drawing the whole figure i would practice the heads)..i look at the head abstractly (think of it as an object at first) sometimes i tried the loomis approach (which is construction..not exactly his way..but keepin the same principles) then locate the features.. I try to remind myself of looking at the planes..which are not very obvious on the model..i have done a few self portraits and those help you too.., look at people faces all the time (well im obsessed with expressions so i do that)..maybe get a skull..and draw it from life..(which i have done), i have also sketched people extensively..just sit at a mall an try your hand at it..
I saw your drawing..:)..i think i would concentrate on copying flatworks a lot..(copy loomis heads,masterworks, i think you like comic style so copy those heads) draw the way you draw..not doing constructively as you have done in that drawing(is hard)...then sometimes use construction..practice doing circles, sphere and the basic conceptual forms..also sometimes study each feature indiviaduall..how the nose ,ears are made up...etc
I dont know what your goal as an artist (concept/fineart?) is but drawing from life will help you a lot in overall drawing..not only heads..

Hyskoa
August 31st, 2005, 01:24 PM
ok, thanks a lot for those words of wisdom :)