Samurai concepts

[davi]

I'm currently working on a samurai mod for ut2003 with a few other CA members. Here are my first samurai concepts. just learning how the armor works.

http://www.creatureone.com/sam/armor01c3.jpg
http://www.creatureone.com/sam/armor02c2.jpg

templetes
http://www.creatureone.com/sam/temp-g01.jpg
http://www.creatureone.com/sam/temp-g02.jpg

[Yaseck]

I always prefered Your sketches. You're very good in it. You've got strong hand.

[davi]

well here is another
http://www.creatureone.com/sam/misc01.jpg

[Mark_Li]

Cool stuff.

I'd recommend you do some research on Japanese armor and weapons, along with clothing and such as well. Just some basic fiddling with google could bring up a bunch of useful things.

A few points to make:


Katana are always worn edge-up, slung through the belt on the left-hand side, with the tsuba (handguard) approximately in-line with the bellybutton..

Tachi, however, are worn edge-down and attached via loops like a cavalry sword. They are usually a bit longer and/or curved. Generally, though, a tachi and a katana are the same blade in different mountings.


Anyway, just a few tips about swords. Some general research about yoroi (armor) can benefit you alot.

Keep at it. ;D

[Nimrod]

Looking really good, I love the strength of your linework, namely the way you add weight to the lines in such a way to emphasize the stresses and weights on the forms (most noticably in the impaled guy).

One thing I notice though is that your charcters arms are too long, at least if you're going for verity. The extended fingers should come down to just about mid thigh. Actually, I think it's more that your legs are too short than the arms are too long. Anyway, if its the style your going for for the game, disregard all that crap :)

[tyboogie]

looking good as studies--very simplified though --theres alot of room for patterns /details/ etc. on the armor

i hope you exploit that---but if its for UT you might have to work simplified huh?

[davi]

textures don't have to be simple at all.
i only stayed simple because this was a 1:1 piece and i was basicly just learning how the actual armor worked.

drawing the armor will be much more natural to me now so i can do more detailed stuff in the future.

[Lono]

cool stuff man! i like the big guy,, but put some cloths on that monkey!

i wish i still had all of my samurai armor links.. i think i dumped them with my last HD wipe. ive got a lot of really good books and a directory full of refference,, but i guess that doesnt help you much.:bash:

go watch some Kurasawa movies.. that always gets me pumped.

-Lono

[Azulblue]

good, nice samurai!

have you study? its very good.
but I feel china elements a little....

http://www.bushinavi.com/~speedydash/kattyu.html
http://www.bushinavi.com/forum/upl/joyful.cgi

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Davi.

Check out the concept art McFarlane toys released for the Samurai Spawn line.

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Heres a link.

http://www.spawn.com/features/series19/legend.page4.html

[davi]

cook links guys, thanks!

Mark_Li: what do you mean about the edge pointing up? Someone told me this before but i guess i didn't really understand it.

Lono: yeah i lost all my references in my great davi E drive crash of 2003...

Azulblue: what do you mean by chinese feel? what makes it seem more chinese than japanese?

[Fipse]

Hi Davi.

the thing with the edge is quite simple. If you put the Katana in the sheath, the edge should look upwards so that the back of the sword makes a downward bow (look at the mouth of the smily that´s the direction: :( . The Katana is just put into the belt (Obi) normally in about a 45 degree angle without any further fastenings. If you have a Tachi, you have a system of fastenings and the sword is hanging with the back upwards in a upward bow (again smily-mouth: :)).

I tried to find some pictures but all the Iai-Do links I know just have action photos with the sword out of the sheath.

Hope this could help somehow

Fipse
(who´s done Iai for some time ;))

Just found this links of some friends of mine:
http://www.samurai.de/images/besprech.jpg
These guys are wearing Tachis, you can see the fastenings - I suppose the Tachi is more for armour wearing, where you don´t wear the Obi ...

[Bathgate66]

Hey Davi, nice sketches but there is one crit.

The way you slant your figures. I know the body kinda slants diagonally from head to toe from front to back but actually, right in the mid-shins area the ankle and feet go the other way. It's almost like a curve.

[davi]

ok thanks i think i understand.
may main problem was is that i didn't understand how much the actual swords curved and i drew them pretty straight.

Bathgate66, i think i slant my figures because i draw late at night and i'm falling over.. but thanks!

[Mark_Li]

Fipse: What ryuha do you practice? I started Muso Shinden Ryu about a year ago or so.


:D:D:D

[Azulblue]

hi,davi
It will apologize, if feeling is worsened. sorry.
Your work is wonderful.:D

The reasons which look in China are a hood and the worn-in layers clothes.
Furthermore, it is one of them that the border of clothes is also broad.
A samurai is a junior fighter in Japanese aristocrat society.
That what covers a face is attached are only samurais restricted very much, such as an officer commanding.
However, it cannot but be a small problem if a design is pursued.
The culture of Japan and China is well alike.;)

[Fipse]

Off topic., Sorry davi ...

Hi Mark,
I´ve been doing Muso Shinden Ryu, too. It´s afaik the most popular style here in Germany. But after 5 years very intensive corean Hwa-Rang-Do I always had problems with the japanese Language ;)

Fipse

[Mark_Li]

;D